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kelvin
post Dec 21 2009, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(kpchow75 @ Dec 21 2009, 02:55 PM)
Any one in Penang has their new decoder installed?
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Same here....still waiiiiiiiting....register online on Friday, get comfirmation on 16-Dec. Call again last evening....CS said WAIIIIIITTTTTT 10 days. rclxub.gif


QUOTE(En_A @ Dec 21 2009, 03:07 PM)
i got 2 decoder at home using single dish. i only change 1 account to astro b.yond. can the second decoder (the old one) shares dish with the new b.yond dish?
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Installer may install the new disc to HD decoder and leave the old disc to old SD decoder... sweat.gif
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post Dec 21 2009, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Dec 21 2009, 02:20 PM)
Yes, this is for two reasons. Even on an SD TV the Astro B.yond media box will be better quality providing you connect using the component (RGB) not composite cable. The biggest improvement comes from SD when you use a HDMI cable. Firstly, the Astro B.yond box forces the viewer to keep the correct aspect ratios, no squashed or stretched picture. But secondly, and most importantly, the HDMI connection allows the TV to display the full SD overscan picture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan

The analogue connection from the box does not allow for full overscan as it has to assume a lesser quality TV, with HDMI the decoder can safely display the full overscan.

The only downside to the SD overscan being present is that on some channels the data lines will be visible, these are the small white dots that you may see, but its a small price to pay.

Depending on how you do the maths and your old TV quality, the improvement will be between 17 and 30% in terms of visible picture.
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My Yamaha RX-V1900 AVR is doing exactly just that for SD analogue video to go from 576i to 1080p... complete picture sometimes with funny blinking/moving white dots on top of the picture on certain channels. And can really see a lot more at the edges, things that you thought are already cropped out on normal TVs.

And I only watch 4:3 SD with two black vertical bars at the side so I don't get squashed picture, many of my friends called me crazy fella saying that I am wasting the available (and expensive) screen areas on my TV... sigh... doh.gif (I'd rather see the black bars than distorted human bodies... tongue.gif )


Added on December 21, 2009, 3:18 pm
QUOTE(kelvin @ Dec 21 2009, 03:12 PM)
Same here....still waiiiiiiiting....register online on Friday, get comfirmation on 16-Dec. Call again last evening....CS said WAIIIIIITTTTTT 10 days.  rclxub.gif
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Am from Penang too, still waiting, today's the 5th day already since the T&C call...

This post has been edited by LCP: Dec 21 2009, 03:18 PM
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post Dec 21 2009, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin @ Dec 21 2009, 03:12 PM)
Same here....still waiiiiiiiting....register online on Friday, get comfirmation on 16-Dec. Call again last evening....CS said WAIIIIIITTTTTT 10 days.  rclxub.gif
Installer may install the new disc to HD decoder and leave the old disc to old SD decoder... sweat.gif
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owh yeah? then should change both to HD then... cos my wiring all inside the wall, renovate house last 2 years... isk.
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post Dec 21 2009, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(hasratusaha @ Dec 21 2009, 03:10 PM)
Astro installer are getting richer, 1 B.yond customer they get RM80 from astro, later everybody one to be installer ha ha.

M3A Compression is worst than last time M3, Mpeg4 for B.yond average at 4.5Mb/s consider ok la for HD Broadcasting. A$tro sholud align back their M3A to reduce Video Gain for SD material.
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I really don't understand what you are saying here?

Measat 3a is only available to Astro B.yond decoders that have had the correct installation done so they can tune to the high frequency range transmitted by Measat 3a. Measat 3a is not available to the older SD decoders as they cannot tune the high frequency range and they can only receive DVB-S not DVB-S2.

The HD channels on Measat 3a (from my testing using a PC card) are at 8Mbits/s using DVB-S2 modulation in MPEG4, for modern encoders, which I assume Astro has, give a really good HD picture.

Your statement of "sholud align back their M3A to reduce Video Gain for SD material" does not make sense to me, can you explain further?

(Just to save further comment, my PC card can only look at the signal and it's parts, I cant see any video or hear any audio as it is encrypted. I use the PC card as an analyzer professionally to check the make up of a satellite transmission.)

This post has been edited by AstInst: Dec 21 2009, 03:33 PM
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post Dec 21 2009, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin @ Dec 21 2009, 03:12 PM)
Same here....still waiiiiiiiting....register online on Friday, get comfirmation on 16-Dec. Call again last evening....CS said WAIIIIIITTTTTT 10 days.  rclxub.gif
Installer may install the new disc to HD decoder and leave the old disc to old SD decoder... sweat.gif
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10 working days? or 10 days? Anyway, i only saw people in Klang Valley have their new decoder. Not fair at all.... sweat.gif
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post Dec 21 2009, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(kpchow75 @ Dec 21 2009, 03:32 PM)
10 working days? or 10 days? Anyway, i only saw people in Klang Valley have their new decoder. Not fair at all.... sweat.gif
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10 working days from the last call from astro for confirmation....

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post Dec 21 2009, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Dec 21 2009, 03:36 PM)
10 working days from the last call from astro for confirmation....
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The customer service lady told me 10 days, inclusive of weekends and public holidays...
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post Dec 21 2009, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(honamd77 @ Dec 21 2009, 02:08 PM)
dengkinye rase..

mane nih installer..aduhai..
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bawa banyak2 sabar bro. hehehehe tongue.gif
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post Dec 21 2009, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Dec 21 2009, 03:28 PM)
I really don't understand what you are saying here?

Measat 3a is only available to Astro B.yond decoders that have had the correct installation done so they can tune to the high frequency range transmitted by Measat 3a. Measat 3a is not available to the older SD decoders as they cannot tune the high frequency range and they can only receive DVB-S not DVB-S2.

The HD channels on Measat 3a (from my testing using a PC card) are at 8Mbits/s using DVB-S2 modulation in MPEG4, for modern encoders, which I assume Astro has, give a really good HD picture.

Your statement of "sholud align back their M3A to reduce Video Gain for SD material" does not make sense to me, can you explain further?

(Just to save further comment, my PC card can only look at the signal and it's parts, I cant see any video or hear any audio as it is encrypted. I use the PC card as an analyzer professionally to check the make up of a satellite transmission.)
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Im talking about watching SD (Standard Defination) channel in B.yond. Picture is terrible burning, stratchtable and 'sakit mata bila tengok'. It worst than previous set (Not HD). Last time the set (Not HD) M3 transmitted using Mpeg 2 and some channel transmit at 9mb/s is better while watching SD material. That is my statement about.

Another thing the Dolby Digital Sound (5.1) also sucks, (Echos) when u watch HBO HD. If u set to Analog than ok, but you cannot experience in 5.1. Other 3 channel in HD is OK when setting to DD5.1

This post has been edited by hasratusaha: Dec 21 2009, 03:57 PM
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post Dec 21 2009, 04:03 PM

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just called astro hq kuantan today..

diorang baru terima set decoder beyond hari ini..

maybe esok installer akan start pasang kat area kuantan/pekan

so, dia mintak no akaun / no. ic untuk check work order pemasangan decoder byond..

malangnya, diaorang kata nama aku tadek dalam sistem..

so aku call semula astro yang nombor 1300-82-3838..

aku tanya pasal status permohonan...

selepas 5 minit menunggu, diaorang kata masa orang yang call aku sebelum ni

dah silap masuk kan data...

so, aku kena tunggu call untuk t&c dan confirmation semula...

lepas tu baru diaorang boleh proceed application aku.. hadoi..

sengal betul kan?
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post Dec 21 2009, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(hasratusaha @ Dec 21 2009, 03:56 PM)
Im talking about watching SD (Standard Defination) channel in B.yond. Picture is terrible burning, stratchtable and 'sakit mata bila tengok'. It worst than previous set (Not HD). Last time the set (Not HD) M3 transmitted using Mpeg 2 and some channel transmit at 9mb/s is better while watching SD material. That is my statement about.

Another thing the Dolby Digital Sound (5.1) also sucks, (Echos) when u watch HBO HD. If u set to Analog than ok, but you cannot experience in 5.1. Other 4 channel in HD is OK when setting to DD5.1
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I think I get what you mean, if Astro was to increase SD MPEG 2 to 9Mbits/s then we would only have 3 channels per transponder, a total of 30 channels... so which 70 channels would you propose to remove in order to do this?

The SD channels on Astro B.yond are the same Measat 3 transmissions that was received by your old SD decoder, they are not specific transmissions to Astro B.yond.

My Astro B.yond gives perfect 5.1 audio, no echo just true 5.1. You should check your audio settings, you could have some post processing that is causing the effect. Some cinema audio systems have mode that turns stereo in to an artificial surround sound, you could have this switched on. As with the TV you should turn off all enhancement modes on your amplifier.

I would also check that you have not got crossed wires, i.e. red on the amplifier connected to red on the speaker, if red is connected to black then you could get all kinds of phasing issues. Also, make sure you are using the digital audio connections, not stereo analogue.


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post Dec 21 2009, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Dec 21 2009, 04:05 PM)
I think I get what you mean, if Astro was to increase SD MPEG 2 to 9Mbits/s then we would only have 3 channels per transponder, a total of 30 channels... so which 70 channels would you propose to remove in order to do this?

The SD channels on Astro B.yond are the same Measat 3 transmissions that was received by your old SD decoder, they are not specific transmissions to Astro B.yond.

My Astro B.yond gives perfect 5.1 audio, no echo just true 5.1. You should check your audio settings, you could have some post processing that is causing the effect. Some cinema audio systems have mode that turns stereo in to an artificial surround sound, you could have this switched on. As with the TV you should turn off all enhancement modes on your amplifier.

I would also check that you have not got crossed wires, i.e. red on the amplifier connected to red on the speaker, if red is connected to black then you could get all kinds of phasing issues. Also, make sure you are using the digital audio connections, not stereo analogue.
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Im using Yammy 863 connected to my Sony Bluray, Dvico HDM7000A, PS3 and x360 with HDMI cable. All my souce tested in Dobly True HD, DTSHDMA, DTS and AC3 without any other problem including Echo Sound. But watching HBO HD the Echo starts. This is my setting.

Home>Setting>Your Setting>Digital Audio Setting>Dolby Digital 5.1 (Digital Only)

When i set to Stereo (Analague and Digital) then ok but not in True 5.1.

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post Dec 21 2009, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Dec 21 2009, 04:05 PM)
I think I get what you mean, if Astro was to increase SD MPEG 2 to 9Mbits/s then we would only have 3 channels per transponder, a total of 30 channels... so which 70 channels would you propose to remove in order to do this?

The SD channels on Astro B.yond are the same Measat 3 transmissions that was received by your old SD decoder, they are not specific transmissions to Astro B.yond.

My Astro B.yond gives perfect 5.1 audio, no echo just true 5.1. You should check your audio settings, you could have some post processing that is causing the effect. Some cinema audio systems have mode that turns stereo in to an artificial surround sound, you could have this switched on. As with the TV you should turn off all enhancement modes on your amplifier.

I would also check that you have not got crossed wires, i.e. red on the amplifier connected to red on the speaker, if red is connected to black then you could get all kinds of phasing issues. Also, make sure you are using the digital audio connections, not stereo analogue.
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Hi, i'm new to this forum. Got my Byond last Friday (In Klang). No HBOHD 'cos non movie package subsciber. No sound from TV if opt for DD5.1 from HD channels, other channels ok, why?
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i got my HD last sat.

Nat Geo looks awesome. then last night, i saw Batman (the one with Michael Keaton in it), the movie looks like new.

i have true motion on my tv and some movies when looks like an episode of The Bold and The Beautiful. really looks a little too fake at some times.


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QUOTE(pknride @ Dec 21 2009, 04:03 PM)
just called astro hq kuantan today..

diorang baru terima set decoder beyond hari ini..

maybe esok installer akan start pasang kat area kuantan/pekan

so, dia mintak no akaun / no. ic untuk check work order pemasangan decoder byond..

malangnya, diaorang kata nama aku tadek dalam sistem..

so aku call semula astro yang nombor 1300-82-3838..

aku tanya pasal status permohonan...

selepas 5 minit menunggu, diaorang kata masa orang yang call aku sebelum ni

dah silap masuk kan data...

so, aku kena tunggu call untuk t&c dan confirmation semula...

lepas tu baru diaorang boleh proceed application aku.. hadoi..

sengal betul kan?
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yes... very the 'sengal' bro... rclxub.gif how come they can do like that...
you should vmad.gif them !!!


Added on December 21, 2009, 4:46 pm
QUOTE(LCP @ Dec 21 2009, 03:39 PM)
The customer service lady told me 10 days, inclusive of weekends and public holidays...
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If like that, already 6th day la for me... still have 4 days to go!

This post has been edited by AjkR06: Dec 21 2009, 04:46 PM
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post Dec 21 2009, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Dec 21 2009, 04:42 PM)
yes... very the 'sengal' bro... rclxub.gif how come they can do like that...
you should  vmad.gif  them !!!
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aiseh.. poor me....

you better call astro hq in ipoh to confirm

if byond decorder sudah sampai kat sana..

then, ask them to check if already hav work order for you..

if same case with me, call astro and ask for ur status..
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QUOTE(pknride @ Dec 21 2009, 04:47 PM)
aiseh.. poor me....

you better call astro hq in ipoh to confirm

if byond decorder sudah sampai kat sana..

then, ask them to check if already hav work order for you..

if same case with me, call astro and ask for ur status..
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do you have their phone number...
i already gooogle it... but i only found the address...

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post Dec 21 2009, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Dec 21 2009, 04:50 PM)
do you have their phone number...
i already gooogle it... but i only found the address...
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try call TM 103
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post Dec 21 2009, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(pknride @ Dec 21 2009, 04:52 PM)
try call TM 103
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TM(Nut) only give you the Astro call center number. Their don't provide the state office number rclxub.gif
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post Dec 21 2009, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(king_kong @ Dec 21 2009, 04:40 PM)
i got my HD last sat.

Nat Geo looks awesome. then last night, i saw Batman (the one with Michael Keaton in it), the movie looks like new.

i have true motion on my tv and some movies when looks like an episode of The Bold and The Beautiful. really looks a little too fake at some times.
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You should switch off all picture enhancements, like 200Hz/100Hz, "True Motion", "Pixel Plus".. all they do is either blur the picture or try to add stuff that isnt there.

The best way to view any picture is to do it as pure as possible, also flatten the color response of the TV itself. Most TVs in Asia ship in "Vivid" or similar mode.

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