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post Nov 16 2009, 09:53 AM, updated 16y ago

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Proton CPS Club V4
Proton cps club V3.....

A new proton CPS club.....V4 already thumbup.gif

* Please kindly include ur nick, name, the colour of your ride... and probably.. No. plate (maybe just no. will do. for security purpose)
and also transmission AT or MT
(Can also PM me your info. Will update the list asap)

*Format of info to be update on 1st page
nick - (name) - colour - car no. - AT/MT


SC center commented by members
Mutiara Damansara :
1. Appointment only
2. Saturday for normal service only, warranty claims during weekdays only

COE
1. so far so good
er... hope that the info included will not mess up the list haha although for me seems like quite messy

Senaxis Sdn. Bhd. (in taman mayang, SS25 PJ) eastwest
1. so far so good. done all my car service there. Satisfied with their service. nod.gif
2. First come first serve. thumbup.gif

Waja CPS Members list :-
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Gen2 CPS Members list :-
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<NEW>Satria Neo CPS Members list :-
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Special Members list(one and only) whistling.gif
Zenwarlord-waja-mivec ->> Still here..hehe tongue.gif

Name - Engine Oil :
1. R.Y.D.E.C.K - Shell Helix HX5 15W-40
2. ezwann - Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40, Fully Syn
3. eujinee - Castrol Magnetec 10W-40, Semi-Syn
4. ahpaul82 - Motul 6100 SYNERGIE+ 10W-40, Semi-Syn
5. fazron80 -
6. sphiroth - Mobil 1 5W-50, Fully Syn
7. klia - Petronas Syntium 1000 15W-50, Fully Syn
8. Zairee - Shell Helix Ultra 5w-40, Fully Syn
9. jctasoga - Bardahl 5W-30, Fully Syn
10. ThienWu - Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40, Fully Syn
11. pearjar - Petronas Syntium 800 10W-30, Semi-Syn
12. eastwest - Petronas Syntium 800 10W-40, Semi-Syn
13. jVIPERs2 - Petronas Syntium 800 10W-30, Semi-Syn
14. singchaii - Hyrax E-one 10w-40, semi syn
15. Diablo69 - Amsoil ASL 5W30 Fully Syn

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MODIFICATION
Too many mods by CPSer, pening nak update laugh.gif

Problems encounter on received Waja CPS
1. Front fender squeezing sound
2. Alignment not properly done + tyre balancing is out, steering will shake after 110km/h
3. Buzzing sound from dash board after rpm reach 2.5k-3k
4. Front passenger side wiper couldn't hold the wiper properly, after fix back it still came off
5. Air-con compressor when active tat time will have "klok klok klok" sounds
6. AT cars having problem on "check engine" light
7. 5 case of PW incident happened ATM... 1. glass drop and break 2. glass lift fail to operate 3. short circuit on the PW control on door panel
8. Paint at the side mirror start to "peel" off after 1 year
9. power window motor for front passeger side burned. Claim warranty.
10. "Surround sound" -- dolby waja eh?? rclxub.gif

Problems encounter on received Gen2 CPS
...updating...

FC for waja -
1) [roughtly 0.16-0.18] + 40%= 0.23-0.25 cent/km(depends on the driver)
2) 11-14 km/l(depends on the driver)..record is 16km/l whistling.gif


FC for gen2
1) lgs -> RM0.16 = 11.25km/L -- RM0.13 = 13.85km/L
2) jVIPERs2 -> 7.0 +/- 0.1L/100KM
3) ezwann -> RM50 fuel (shell RM1.8/L) + RM67 (mobil Rm1.8/L) = 660km = 65 liter 50%highway 50%city OR 1 liter = 10.1km
4) shah333 -> 5.6-5.7l/100km - slgr town n highway - stock engine (1 liter = 17.54km)

This post has been edited by eastwest: Feb 10 2010, 03:14 PM
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post Nov 16 2009, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 15 2009, 05:26 PM)
eh? serious? mine no cover wan...2008 model.. so mine should be one of the first batches...
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later will check mine....

QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 15 2009, 05:39 PM)
Of course i am serious. i worked at eon and I saw these different. That why i asking u guy about this matter.
When u sent ur car to service, try go peep. i'm sure new batch cps using mivec gearbox. That y new waja cps have better power. Even my waja cps also having the cover.
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QUOTE(alexscm @ Nov 15 2009, 08:45 PM)
Hey guys...remember that i showed you my scratched dashboard?

This is what i did to cover it....

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Anyone interested in doing the same???
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woah plan to change mine too

QUOTE(ben_cps @ Nov 15 2009, 10:45 PM)
black .... cant sleep... cant eat .... i just cant wait to have my own waja cps (m)... im going crazy....
price      - rm61888
discount  - rm3000
downpayment  - rm9888
loan    - rm49000
3.65 - 7years- pbb
monthly around rm732
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Nov 15 2009, 11:01 PM)
Oh...16".

2 weeks? In his dream la wey.
U better prepare for worst situation ever laugh.gif
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haha my colleage order saga...2week SA said...but now oledi reach 1 half month laugh.gif ...me receive on time..as promised..quite lucky

wahh......CANGRATsss.....V5 oledi dammmn thumbup.gif ............guy sory not attending tt..kene hook laugh.gif sweat.gif

wehh V5 but still no intro picture....ok,how bout we do tt @BP than we took picture as our main intro picture thumbup.gif ...sunday nite saw myvi club convoy ....dammn envy
TSeastwest
post Nov 16 2009, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 16 2009, 10:08 AM)
later will check mine....
mivec laugh.gif  thumbup.gif
woah plan to change mine too
welkam thumbup.gif
haha my colleage order saga...2week SA said...but now oledi reach 1 half month laugh.gif ...me receive on time..as promised..quite lucky

wahh......CANGRATsss.....V5 oledi dammmn thumbup.gif ............guy sory not attending tt..kene hook laugh.gif  sweat.gif

wehh V5 but still no intro picture....ok,how bout we do tt @BP than we took picture as our main intro picture thumbup.gif ...sunday nite saw myvi club convoy ....dammn envy
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How about TT sometime in december? I'm free from 1/12- 14 dec (because my wife have to attend courses laugh.gif , so can be a lone renjer for a while..lol tongue.gif )
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post Nov 16 2009, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 16 2009, 10:08 AM)

woah plan to change mine too
change apa bro???

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post Nov 16 2009, 10:44 AM

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V5 already... thumbup.gif
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post Nov 16 2009, 11:11 AM

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Congratz on V5.. thumbup.gif
Gonna join da club.. rclxm9.gif


zenwarlord,
"Mivec gearbox code number start with F5M42-1-xxxx, "if" proton punch their own number then very hard to tell by physical outlook."

How to check the gearbox code number huh? tongue.gif


sphiroth,
"AFAIK, it comes standard no matter what kind of loans you take. Actually, its more like an insurance kinda thingy rather than normal warranty."

Mean all also comes with 5 years warranty? The PDF in PE website seem from Allianz Bank one..:erm:


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post Nov 16 2009, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Nov 16 2009, 11:11 AM)
Congratz on V5.. thumbup.gif
Gonna join da club.. rclxm9.gif
zenwarlord,
"Mivec gearbox code number start with F5M42-1-xxxx, "if" proton punch their own number then very hard to tell by physical outlook."

How to check the gearbox code number huh? tongue.gif
sphiroth,
"AFAIK, it comes standard no matter what kind of loans you take. Actually, its more like an insurance kinda thingy rather than normal warranty."

Mean all also comes with 5 years warranty? The PDF in PE website seem from Allianz Bank one..:erm:
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Its like Proton is buying insurance from Alliance bank. So the bank will pay if the engine is damage. (from what I heard).
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post Nov 16 2009, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 16 2009, 11:17 AM)
Its like Proton is buying insurance from Alliance bank. So the bank will pay if the engine is damage. (from what I heard).
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If so does that mean my car insurance MUST be Allianz Bank also? Or any insurance company will do? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 16 2009, 07:58 AM)
Mivec gearbox code number start with F5M42-1-xxxx, "if" proton punch their own number then very hard to tell by physical outlook.
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Where to see the code?

QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Nov 16 2009, 08:33 AM)
i've check my gen2 cps MT gearbox use F5M42 with 4.312 final drive..
i think they use same gearbox with MIVEC but diff final drive to suite cps power band nod.gif
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But its kinda weird that they use mivec GB in the later batch.. hmm.gif


Added on November 16, 2009, 11:38 am
QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Nov 16 2009, 11:21 AM)
If so does that mean my car insurance MUST be Allianz Bank also? Or any insurance company will do?  hmm.gif
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Proton is the one who bought the insurance.

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post Nov 16 2009, 11:58 AM

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sphiroth, what is the gearbox used for our batch? Actually what is the different between our batch and newer one?
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QUOTE(eastwest @ Nov 16 2009, 11:58 AM)
sphiroth, what is the gearbox used for our batch? Actually what is the different between our batch and newer one?
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Don't know where to see the serial. And my car is quite low to peek at the GB.
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 16 2009, 11:34 AM)
Where to see the code? 
But its kinda weird that they use mivec GB in the later batch.. hmm.gif


Added on November 16, 2009, 11:38 am

Proton is the one who bought the insurance.
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Mean Proton buy insurance n then give 5 year warranty to us? We only enjoy the insurance coverage lidat?

QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 16 2009, 12:00 PM)
Don't know where to see the serial. And my car is quite low to peek at the GB.
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Jack up n peep lol...tongue.gif
Mivec is better? Only for Waja CPS isit?


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post Nov 16 2009, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Nov 16 2009, 11:11 AM)
Congratz on V5.. thumbup.gif
Gonna join da club.. rclxm9.gif
zenwarlord,
"Mivec gearbox code number start with F5M42-1-xxxx, "if" proton punch their own number then very hard to tell by physical outlook."

How to check the gearbox code number huh? tongue.gif
sphiroth,
"AFAIK, it comes standard no matter what kind of loans you take. Actually, its more like an insurance kinda thingy rather than normal warranty."

Mean all also comes with 5 years warranty? The PDF in PE website seem from Allianz Bank one..:erm:
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The number punched on the GB somewhere nearby engine number.




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post Nov 16 2009, 01:02 PM

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later i try n see n take pic.. hehe.. congrats on the v5
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 16 2009, 01:02 PM)
Extended Warranty Programme

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same certification receive... nod.gif
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QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Nov 16 2009, 12:41 PM)
Mean Proton buy insurance n then give 5 year warranty to us? We only enjoy the insurance coverage lidat?
Jack up n peep lol...tongue.gif
Mivec is better? Only for Waja CPS isit?
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Means that in our consumer POV, it still the same with normal warranty.


Added on November 16, 2009, 3:01 pmGB serial KF5M-42XXXXX

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 16 2009, 02:23 PM)
Means that in our consumer POV, it still the same with normal warranty.


Added on November 16, 2009, 3:01 pmGB serial KF5M-42XXXXX
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is it K-F5M-421? Anyway it's not original GB, so ur next mod is to install Mivec GB with LSD hehehe RM2.5K


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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 16 2009, 04:25 PM)
is it K-F5M-421? Anyway it's not original GB, so ur next mod is to install Mivec GB with LSD hehehe RM2.5K
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Just done a simple 'research'. Not much difference if upgrade to mivec gb.

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wah....so fast v5...congrats.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cps go go go...


Added on November 16, 2009, 4:41 pm
QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 16 2009, 01:02 PM)
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aiks...i dun have geh...how to dapat???


Added on November 16, 2009, 4:41 pm
QUOTE(eastwest @ Nov 16 2009, 10:13 AM)
How about TT sometime in december? I'm free from 1/12- 14 dec (because my wife have to attend courses laugh.gif , so can be a lone renjer for a while..lol tongue.gif )
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jom....TT

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QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 16 2009, 04:40 PM)
wah....so fast v5...congrats.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cps go go go...


Added on November 16, 2009, 4:41 pm
aiks...i dun have geh...how to dapat???


Added on November 16, 2009, 4:41 pm
jom....TT
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proton-edar will mail it to you....
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 15 2009, 07:50 PM)
140km/h@5th gear is 4k rpm. 110km/h is around 3.1k rpm...
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hey, i just check it out.. When in 5th gear 100kmh, it at 2800rpm while 110kmh is at 3k rpm.

mine is manual gb.

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hello..mine is waja cps auto..RPM for 110km/h is 2800rpm
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QUOTE(cavcite @ Nov 16 2009, 04:58 PM)
hello..mine is waja cps auto..RPM for 110km/h is 2800rpm
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will check mine... cps auto as well
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Added on November 16, 2009, 4:41 pm


Added on November 16, 2009, 4:41 pm
jom....TT
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when?

QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 16 2009, 05:19 PM)
will check mine... cps auto as well
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VerM...thiemwu join HPC ahh??
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 16 2009, 01:02 PM)
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Great, I shall get this when I receive the car hor? biggrin.gif
If get this cert mean need to service @ PSC for 5 years? hmm.gif sweat.gif
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mine is gen2 cps auto... 110km/h is at 2900rpm...
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 16 2009, 05:43 PM)
when?
VerM...thiemwu join HPC ahh??
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you need to ask your bunny permission first my friend.... hahahahaha tongue.gif


Added on November 16, 2009, 7:37 pm
QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Nov 16 2009, 06:32 PM)
Great, I shall get this when I receive the car hor?  biggrin.gif
If get this cert mean need to service @ PSC for 5 years?  hmm.gif  sweat.gif
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nope... they mail after 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 months .... depending on your luck... but you will get one eventually.... nod.gif

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why you guys rpm so low wan? mine 110km/h at 3200rpm. too high dy my timing? gen 2 cps auto
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QUOTE(diablo69 @ Nov 16 2009, 07:00 PM)
mine is gen2 cps auto... 110km/h is at 2900rpm...
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if lock the autodrive at 110km/h.... the rpm needle shown at .... ops... heavy rain laaa... eyes on the road... maybe next time.... tongue.gif


Added on November 16, 2009, 7:45 pm
QUOTE(coz4u @ Nov 16 2009, 07:39 PM)
why you guys rpm so low wan? mine 110km/h at  3200rpm. too high dy my timing? gen 2 cps auto
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yours have no cat con lerr...

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VerM...thiemwu join HPC ahh??
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ya lor.. why.. ada brani or takut bini... tongue.gif tongue.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

btw.. mine running 110kmh @ 3100rpm... manual waja

V5 already... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 16 2009, 07:40 PM)
if lock the autodrive at 110km/h.... the rpm needle shown at .... ops... heavy rain laaa... eyes on the road... maybe next time.... tongue.gif


Added on November 16, 2009, 7:45 pm

yours have no cat con lerr...
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Speed on the speedometer are calculated from rpm and gear position, with the parameter already set in the ecu. So, any mod will not change the displayed speed but will change the actual speed.
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 16 2009, 08:02 PM)
Speed on the speedometer are calculated from rpm and gear position, with the parameter already set in the ecu. So, any mod will not change the displayed speed but will change the actual speed.
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waaa sphiroth, your explanation abit too ununderstandable. haha. can explain to me why is my rpm higher compare to the rest again?smile.gif
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QUOTE(coz4u @ Nov 16 2009, 08:19 PM)
waaa sphiroth, your explanation abit too ununderstandable. haha. can explain to me why is my rpm higher compare to the rest again?smile.gif
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No idea. It supposed to be the same for all car with same ecu mapping, engine and gearbox.
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actually its the gear ratio that determine your car speed, not ECU...

example...
if both the cars are running same engine and same gearbox ratio... @3k rpm both the car speed is at 100 km/h.... irregardless of the rim/tyres used (as those affect the readings only)...

why u have a higher rpm?
clutch slipping or somehow for your particular car, proton gives u a special ratio or your rpm meter sudah gila abit...
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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 16 2009, 07:56 PM)
ya lor.. why.. ada brani or takut bini...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

btw.. mine running 110kmh @ 3100rpm... manual waja

V5 already...  thumbup.gif
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hahahaahaha... that's y when the queen is away then only join tt..... rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 16 2009, 08:02 PM)
Speed on the speedometer are calculated from rpm and gear position, with the parameter already set in the ecu. So, any mod will not change the displayed speed but will change the actual speed.
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 16 2009, 08:21 PM)
No idea. It supposed to be the same for all car with same ecu mapping, engine and gearbox.
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perhaps autobots are a lil' bit different... decepticons have 5th overdrive gear ratio whereas autobots is limited to 4-speed... but my outrageous non-educated far guess non automative background stupid yet otherwise known as absolutely non-sense opinion may suggest that the whole premise of the answer given could be without second thought have high probable of being wrong.... rclxub.gif
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its not call autobots... its call OKU

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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 16 2009, 08:33 PM)
hahahaahaha... that's y when the queen is away then only join tt.....  rclxm9.gif
perhaps autobots are a lil' bit different... decepticons have 5th overdrive gear ratio whereas autobots is limited to 4-speed... but my outrageous non-educated far guess non automative background stupid yet otherwise known as absolutely non-sense opinion may suggest that the whole premise of the answer given could be without second thought have high probable of being wrong....  rclxub.gif
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Lol, Verm. wad a good teory smile.gif hahaha. I actually think my timing is too high. at idle it also slightly about 1. i asked my sc and they say its normal.
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my idle is also at 1k rpm....

100 km/h @ 5th gear is ....... i forgot
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tomorrow i go try...
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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 16 2009, 08:29 PM)
actually its the gear ratio that determine your car speed, not ECU...

example...
if both the cars are running same engine and same gearbox ratio... @3k rpm both the car speed is at 100 km/h.... irregardless of the rim/tyres used (as those affect the readings only)...

why u have a higher rpm?
clutch slipping or somehow for your particular car, proton gives u a special ratio or your rpm meter sudah gila abit...
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Got confused with electronic speedometer. doh.gif


Added on November 16, 2009, 8:42 pm
QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 16 2009, 08:36 PM)
my idle is also at 1k rpm....

100 km/h @ 5th gear is ....... i forgot
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tomorrow i go try...
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Your idle is abit high, mine is 900++. To compensate your mod maybe brows.gif

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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 16 2009, 08:35 PM)
its not call autobots... its call OKU

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QUOTE(coz4u @ Nov 16 2009, 08:35 PM)
Lol, Verm. wad a good teory smile.gif hahaha. I actually think my timing is too high. at idle it also slightly about 1. i asked my sc and they say its normal.
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tell your sc to re-tune the idle timing... should be around 900 i think....

QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 16 2009, 08:36 PM)
my idle is also at 1k rpm....

100 km/h @ 5th gear is ....... i forgot
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tomorrow i go try...
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its been 1k ever since i got the car stock from factory...
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but tarak kisah la....
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I juz has a look at my GB code. it KF5M422V7B1 then follow by DY7623. 2 rows.

so its a mivec GB? how to tell the gear ratio?

u can read ur waja cps GB number in between the right engine mounting and the engine block. its very obvious. if stand at the right headlamp, u can peek at it. smile.gif


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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 16 2009, 08:47 PM)
deceptions....... evil plots by decepticons to undermine all autobots.... time to get optimus eujin...or is it eujin prime...
tell your sc to re-tune the idle timing... should be around 900 i think....
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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 16 2009, 09:45 PM)
its lalanus zhai...
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 16 2009, 09:35 PM)
I juz has a look at my GB code. it KF5M422V7B1 then follow by DY7623. 2 rows.

so its a mivec GB? how to tell the gear ratio?

u can read ur waja cps GB number in between the right engine mounting and the engine block. its very obvious. if stand at the right headlamp, u can peek at it. smile.gif
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Mivec code should be without the K. Yours same with mine.
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aih.... same same la... can drive ok liao.. haha...
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 16 2009, 09:35 PM)
I juz has a look at my GB code. it KF5M422V7B1 then follow by DY7623. 2 rows.

so its a mivec GB? how to tell the gear ratio?

u can read ur waja cps GB number in between the right engine mounting and the engine block. its very obvious. if stand at the right headlamp, u can peek at it. smile.gif
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Like this one ka?

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a good read for those that dont know what is covered under the EWP program...
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 16 2009, 05:19 PM)
will check mine... cps auto as well
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same la verM...all auto 2.8k wen 100....
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 16 2009, 10:56 PM)
Like this one ka?

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urs is gen2 rite? maybe a bit different from waja...
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 16 2009, 11:40 PM)
urs is gen2 rite? maybe a bit different from waja...
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Means that Gen2 got different ratio from Waja although both are cps.
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 16 2009, 09:35 PM)
I juz has a look at my GB code. it KF5M422V7B1 then follow by DY7623. 2 rows.

so its a mivec GB? how to tell the gear ratio?

u can read ur waja cps GB number in between the right engine mounting and the engine block. its very obvious. if stand at the right headlamp, u can peek at it. smile.gif
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Here is mine:

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2008/April Gen2 CPS Manual.


I guess our Final Drive is using 4.312 ratio.
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 16 2009, 07:36 PM)
you need to ask your bunny permission first my friend.... hahahahaha tongue.gif


Added on November 16, 2009, 7:37 pm

nope... they mail after 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 months .... depending on your luck... but you will get one eventually....  nod.gif
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guys... will it effect my warranty if i install grounding kit , voltage regulator and r3 spark plug cable???
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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 16 2009, 10:59 PM)
http://www.proton-edar.com.my/pdf/proton_ewp.pdf

a good read for those that dont know what is covered under the EWP program...
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3. Wheels, wheel balancing, tyres, exhaust system and catalytic converter. < So considered wear and tear rite?so change also should not void warranty rite? (in my dreams hahaha) laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 16 2009, 04:28 PM)
Just done a simple 'research'. Not much difference if upgrade to mivec gb.

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Yes u r right, there is not much different in each gear, but the FD does the matter.


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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 17 2009, 12:13 AM)
Here is mine:

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2008/April Gen2 CPS Manual.
I guess our Final Drive is using 4.312 ratio.
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yes u r right, that's y i'm keep asking is F5M422 or F5M421.


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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 16 2009, 10:56 PM)
Like this one ka?

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That is original Mit's AT transmission, the code start with F4A4........


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QUOTE(diablo69 @ Nov 16 2009, 07:00 PM)
mine is gen2 cps auto... 110km/h is at 2900rpm...
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wrong leh.... its actually 100km/h @ 2900rpm...
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 16 2009, 11:48 PM)
Means that Gen2 got different ratio from Waja although both are cps.
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yes.. different.. The most powerful output of cps engine is on satria neo..

by the way, can add me in waja cps list?

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whats the satria neo gearbox codes? actually, bigger number for the FD is better for top speed only? as i understand, smaller FD number is meant for faster sprints...
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 17 2009, 08:06 AM)
yes.. different.. The most powerful output of cps engine is on satria neo..

by the way, can add me in waja cps list?

singchaii - Tranquility Black - 82*8- MY - Cheras (6/11/2009)
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Gen2 n waja use same GB KF5M422V7B1 so the ratio must be same right nod.gif
Gen2 cps ratio are 3.583, 1.947, 1.379, 1.030, 0.767 (overdrive) and 3.363 (reverse) with final drive 4.312 same with Sifu spiroth
quote yesterday right tongue.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 17 2009, 08:06 AM)
yes.. different.. The most powerful output of cps engine is on satria neo..

by the way, can add me in waja cps list?

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so, my car gearbox number will be.....???? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(coz4u @ Nov 16 2009, 07:39 PM)
why you guys rpm so low wan? mine 110km/h at  3200rpm. too high dy my timing? gen 2 cps auto
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mine 110kmh@3.1k rpm....check it just now...

QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 16 2009, 07:56 PM)
ya lor.. why.. ada brani or takut bini...

btw.. mine running 110kmh @ 3100rpm... manual waja

V5 already...  thumbup.gif
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dammmn i onli miss 1 board meeting ... nod.gif ....cannot seat on meeting w/o chairman ehh hahaha... icon_rolleyes.gif
later 2day will check my GB code...

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QUOTE(ben_cps @ Nov 17 2009, 02:30 AM)
guys... will it effect my warranty if i install grounding kit , voltage regulator and r3 spark plug cable???
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nope..it wont void....i dun think u nid the grounding kit yet...coz car is still new...VS wen u got ICE install....


Added on November 17, 2009, 9:38 amany 1 want TT on haji next week??

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QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 17 2009, 09:36 AM)
nope..it wont void....i dun think u nid the grounding kit yet...coz car is still new...VS wen u got ICE install....


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im free... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 17 2009, 08:35 AM)
whats the satria neo gearbox codes? actually, bigger number for the FD is better for top speed only? as i understand, smaller FD number is meant for faster sprints...
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actually bigger FD low speed but high pickup.. nod.gif
connection between engine, transmission and wheel:
Wheel Speed (m/s) = Effective Wheel radius (meter) x (2pi x RPM/60)/(Final drive x gear ratio)
Wheel torque (Nm) = Engine torque (at specific RPM) x (Final drive x gear ratio)

in much simpler notation:
lets say, total gear ratio T = Final drive x Gear ratio

Speed = RPM/T *low T more speed
Torque = Engine torque x T *high T more torque

so, we can say if set of same gear ratio..higher FD give more pickup (Wheel Torque) but Slower speed nod.gif
sori for babbling here hehe tongue.gif

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QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Nov 17 2009, 09:53 AM)
actually bigger FD low speed but high pickup.. nod.gif
connection between engine, transmission and wheel:
Wheel Speed (m/s) = Effective Wheel radius (meter) x (2pi x RPM/60)/(Final drive x gear ratio) 
Wheel torque (Nm) = Engine torque (at specific RPM) x (Final drive x gear ratio)

in much simpler notation:
lets say, total gear ratio T = Final drive x Gear ratio

Speed = RPM/T    *low T more speed
Torque = Engine torque x T    *high T more torque

so, we can say if set of same gear ratio..higher FD give more pickup (Wheel Torque) but Slower speed nod.gif
sori for babbling here hehe tongue.gif
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That's right.....simple terms for higher FD = fast rev or fast peak & less top speed. Just like man hehe





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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 17 2009, 07:49 AM)
Yes u r right, there is not much different in each gear, but the FD does the matter.
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If you take a look at the graph I upload, the difference between the two is not obvious. The graph actually compares between cps gb (green) and mivec gb (red).
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 17 2009, 08:35 AM)
whats the satria neo gearbox codes? actually, bigger number for the FD is better for top speed only? as i understand, smaller FD number is meant for faster sprints...
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QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Nov 17 2009, 09:53 AM)
actually bigger FD low speed but high pickup.. nod.gif
connection between engine, transmission and wheel:
Wheel Speed (m/s) = Effective Wheel radius (meter) x (2pi x RPM/60)/(Final drive x gear ratio) 
Wheel torque (Nm) = Engine torque (at specific RPM) x (Final drive x gear ratio)

in much simpler notation:
lets say, total gear ratio T = Final drive x Gear ratio

Speed = RPM/T    *low T more speed
Torque = Engine torque x T    *high T more torque

so, we can say if set of same gear ratio..higher FD give more pickup (Wheel Torque) but Slower speed nod.gif
sori for babbling here hehe tongue.gif
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Its like using a bigger sprocket on a bike (the one attach to the rear wheel). Bigger, easier to paddle but don't have top speed, and vice versa.
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 17 2009, 09:31 AM)
mine 110kmh@3.1k rpm....check it just now...
dammmn i onli  miss 1 board meeting ... nod.gif ....cannot seat on meeting w/o chairman ehh hahaha... icon_rolleyes.gif
later 2day will check my GB code...
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chairman can not miss any board meeting what.....

QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 17 2009, 09:36 AM)
nope..it wont void....i dun think u nid the grounding kit yet...coz car is still new...VS wen u got ICE install....


Added on November 17, 2009, 9:38 amany 1 want TT on haji next week??
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 17 2009, 09:52 AM)
yalah car tooo new biggrin.gif

im free... laugh.gif
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i'm free for in town tt only.... i'm afraid i have to bow out to any outstation tt this weekend.... (supposed to get my 2nd warrior last week but it turned out to be this week).... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 17 2009, 10:01 AM)
If you take a look at the graph I upload, the difference between the two is not obvious. The graph actually compares between cps gb (green) and mivec gb (red).
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Its like using a bigger sprocket on a bike (the one attach to the rear wheel). Bigger, easier to paddle but don't have top speed, and vice versa.
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The graph only show the speed for each gear, but it did not shows the most important comparison for FD where time taken to reach 7200rpm for each gear also the peak torque and hp at which RPM was not shown. It they put it in the dyno graph then u can see the different between the GB.


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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 17 2009, 10:17 AM)
chairman can not miss any board meeting what.....
i'm free for in town tt only.... i'm afraid i have to bow out to any outstation tt this weekend.... (supposed to get my 2nd warrior last week but it turned out to be this week)....  biggrin.gif
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2nd warrrior? u mean 2nd waja?


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2nd warrrior? u mean 2nd waja?
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QUOTE(diablo69 @ Nov 17 2009, 08:04 AM)
wrong leh.... its actually 100km/h @ 2900rpm...
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yea diablo. mine is the same with yours.
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just curious... persona gb not the same with gen2 gb rite?? if not mistaken 110km/h still below 3k rpm for persona...
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QUOTE(diablo69 @ Nov 17 2009, 12:32 PM)
just curious... persona gb not the same with gen2 gb rite?? if not mistaken 110km/h still below 3k rpm for persona...
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even gen2 iafm got diff GB with gen2 cps nod.gif
diff power band need diff gear ratio..
iafm engine peak torque and power early than cps so the ratio n FD is diff
gen2 iafm (F5M41) ratio: 3.583, 1.947, 1.343, 0.976(overdrive), 0.804 (also overdrive) with final FD 4.052

for example:
5th gear G2 iafm Total ratio, T = 4.052x0.804 = 3.258
5th gear G2 cps Total ratio, T = 4.312x0.767 = 3.307

see, T cps > T iafm so at the same RPM iafm speed > cps speed icon_rolleyes.gif

dun know persona use same GB with g2 iafm or not hmm hmm.gif

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this thread getting more interesting... haha... now is GB hot topic... keep it up guys!


Added on November 17, 2009, 3:59 pmmy company juz bought 3 new persona AT. can have a look later... JLW already.. very fast..

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5th gear
100 km/h @ 2.8k rpm...
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5th gear
100 km/h @ 2.8k rpm...
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Does anyone have any idea on this SMT8 Fuel & Ignition ECU offer by speedworks???
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Does anyone have any idea on this SMT8 Fuel & Ignition ECU offer by speedworks???
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ThienWu. you are a real great fan of speedworks. keep wanna go there check their stuffs. lol
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ThienWu. you are a real great fan of speedworks. keep wanna go there check their stuffs. lol
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 17 2009, 12:13 AM)
Here is mine:

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2008/April Gen2 CPS Manual.
I guess our Final Drive is using 4.312 ratio.
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where did you get the gearbox number. I'm gen2 cps manual too.
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no la coz4u.. just wan to know what exectly it is.. coz never heard of this thing b4.. here got many sifu lor...
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never heard tht b4...heheh........better get a piggy back or something.....v manage or unichip...
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QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 17 2009, 10:11 PM)
never heard tht b4...heheh........better get a piggy back or something.....v manage or unichip...
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smt8 is a piggy back chip.... biggrin.gif
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never heard tht b4...heheh........better get a piggy back or something.....v manage or unichip...
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 17 2009, 06:02 PM)
Bro, whats your gb serial? brows.gif
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maybe later...
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If possible, please get haltech interceptor instead....


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If possible, please get haltech interceptor instead....
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yah...many ppl reco haltech...........but it is super expensive.!!!!
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hahaha....good stuff never comes cheap.


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this weekend how already? nobody coming to bp? sad.gif
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QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 18 2009, 09:28 AM)
yah...many ppl reco haltech...........but it is super expensive.!!!!
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hahaha....good stuff never comes cheap.
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 18 2009, 10:52 AM)
But without a good tuner and extensive mod done, it will be such a waste.. laugh.gif
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Can get R3 division to tune but has to complete the mechanical upgrade 1st ler.....
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 18 2009, 11:43 AM)
For that kind of price, better get BOT.  brows.gif
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what the progress sphiroth.. on or off ur unchip project????
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Wow! So d@mn fast it's V5 already!

Here's a pic of my rpm @ 110kmph:
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I still feel a CVT gearbox suits our CPS more, as our CPS muz be kept in certain rpm for power to come (auto: 2200rpm).. Best is that it'll help us safe fuel too~ hmm.gif
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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Nov 19 2009, 12:01 AM)
Wow! So d@mn fast it's V5 already!

Here's a pic of my rpm @ 110kmph:
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I still feel a CVT gearbox suits our CPS more, as our CPS muz be kept in certain rpm for power to come (auto: 2200rpm).. Best is that it'll help us safe fuel too~  hmm.gif
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u mau visit SC every week right?
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a simple lift mechanism also they got problem making it work right already, u want to tax their head with a CVT gb?
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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 17 2009, 11:28 AM)
The graph only show the speed for each gear, but it did not shows the most important comparison for FD where time taken to reach 7200rpm for each gear also the peak torque and hp at which RPM was not shown. It they put it in the dyno graph then u can see the different between the GB.
we cannot only see the FD to tell the gearbox is different .... we must see each gear compound ratio (compound ratio = gear ratio X final drive ratio) ..

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Gearbox A

1st : 2.750 compound ratio = 11.55
2nd : 1.684 compound ratio = 7.073
3rd : 1.160 compound ratio = 4.872
4th : 0.862 compound ratio = 3.620
5th : 0.617 compound ratio = 2.591
FD : 4.2


Gearbox B

1st : 2.406 compound ratio = 11.55
2nd : 1.473 compound ratio = 7.073
3rd : 1.015 compound ratio = 4.872
4th : 0.754 compound ratio = 3.620
5th : 0.539 compound ratio = 2.591
FD : 4.8


from above.... we see gearbox A & B have diff gear set and final drive..... but both compound ratios are the same .... so the gearboxs will act the same on road interm of speed, rpm, wheel torque ...


from what i see... mivec gb almost the same from 1st to 4th gear .... only 5th gear is big different .... for drag, mivec will perform better .... but still not perfect... custom gear ratio is must if wanna built pure drag machine ..

a good gearbox design also can help reduce transmission power loss.... alot more factor that can help car accelerate faster....


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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Nov 19 2009, 12:01 AM)
Wow! So d@mn fast it's V5 already!

Here's a pic of my rpm @ 110kmph:
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I still feel a CVT gearbox suits our CPS more, as our CPS muz be kept in certain rpm for power to come (auto: 2200rpm).. Best is that it'll help us safe fuel too~  hmm.gif
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hehe any idea where to get 1? together with TCU ler....


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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 19 2009, 07:04 AM)
u mau visit SC every week right?
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a simple lift mechanism also they got problem making it work right already, u want to tax their head with a CVT gb?
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with all the computation involved (i.e gear ratios, final drive), it is still the same gearbox. unless some one here is having or intending to replace their gearbox, it leads to no where... wink.gif
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 19 2009, 01:25 PM)
with all the computation involved (i.e gear ratios, final drive), it is still the same gearbox. unless some one here is having or intending to replace their gearbox, it leads to no where...  wink.gif
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Who knows, maybe these info will come in handy to 'some' person. whistling.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 19 2009, 01:33 PM)
Who knows, maybe these info will come in handy to 'some' person. whistling.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Nov 17 2009, 10:00 PM)
where did you get the gearbox number. I'm gen2 cps manual too.
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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 19 2009, 07:04 AM)
u mau visit SC every week right?
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a simple lift mechanism also they got problem making it work right already, u want to tax their head with a CVT gb?
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Well, they can juz get the unit shown on the EVE concept.. Or since they are juz 'outsourcing', juz get a decent one~ tongue.gif

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hehe any idea where to get 1? together with TCU ler....
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Hmmm..I read here (at lowyat.net) once that a Saga or Waja (can't remember) which the owner swap to CVT.. hmm.gif
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does waja cps (m) have EBD???
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want to ask... The Sustec adjustable absorber good ka? is it reliable? i dont want to buy it then around 1 year that absorber kaput dy....

also , sport absorber what brand is good?

btw , it is for waja
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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Nov 19 2009, 10:49 PM)
Well, they can juz get the unit shown on the EVE concept.. Or since they are juz 'outsourcing', juz get a decent one~  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Nov 19 2009, 10:49 PM)
Hmmm..I read here (at lowyat.net) once that a Saga or Waja (can't remember) which the owner swap to CVT..  hmm.gif
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I think its Waja, using CVT from 1.6 Lancer GLX if not mistaken.


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does waja cps (m) have EBD???
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Yes.

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 19 2009, 09:48 PM)
Just finish claying my car. Damn tiring job. Still need to wax using sealant next.
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after claying, u should do some minor polishing. this will have better effect to smoothen the rough surface and give it a natural shine. then only add sealant layer. and wax as final. smile.gif it will be super shiny...
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 19 2009, 11:48 PM)
after claying, u should do some minor polishing. this will have better effect to smoothen the rough surface and give it a natural shine. then only add sealant layer. and wax as final. smile.gif it will be super shiny...
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Sealant should be the last step. Too lazy too wax, just use quick detailer and straight away put sealant.
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 19 2009, 11:16 PM)
The main constrain of EV is the battery cost and lifetime, and also problem with disposing old batteries.
I think its Waja, using CVT from 1.6 Lancer GLX if not mistaken.
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I was trying to say about the CVT used in the EVE concept~ tongue.gif
I think so..wonder how much that would cost and does it work? hmm.gif
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finally break 200km/h barrier at MEX highway.. 5 minutes later.. blow my right side rear tyre... doh.gif

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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 01:32 AM)
finally break 200km/h barrier at MEX highway.. 5 minutes later.. blow my right side rear tyre...  doh.gif
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What happen after that? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 19 2009, 11:52 PM)
Sealant should be the last step. Too lazy too wax, just use quick detailer and straight away put sealant.
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u happy can already.. hehe..

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thienwu, tyre blown...dangerous.. are you using ori tyres? maybe it wasn't designed to run at that kind of speeds...
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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Nov 19 2009, 10:49 PM)
Well, they can juz get the unit shown on the EVE concept.. Or since they are juz 'outsourcing', juz get a decent one~  tongue.gif
Hmmm..I read here (at lowyat.net) once that a Saga or Waja (can't remember) which the owner swap to CVT..  hmm.gif
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this must be very interesting.


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QUOTE(ezwann @ Nov 20 2009, 07:09 AM)
What happen after that?  hmm.gif
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after that he come back here to do posting.....hahahaha

but it's damn dangerous, that's the reason I'm not to prefered top speed....



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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 19 2009, 11:52 PM)
Sealant should be the last step. Too lazy too wax, just use quick detailer and straight away put sealant.
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I haven't wash my car for multiple weeks already....am I lazy or what....whahahhaha laugh.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 01:32 AM)
finally break 200km/h barrier at MEX highway.. 5 minutes later.. blow my right side rear tyre...  doh.gif
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shocking.gif 200km/h? Your tyre is standard or changed already?
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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Nov 20 2009, 01:02 AM)
I was trying to say about the CVT used in the EVE concept~  tongue.gif
I think so..wonder how much that would cost and does it work?  hmm.gif
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in fact i've been keep my eyes closely on the CVT conversion, would like to listen comment more from the owner.....


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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 01:32 AM)
finally break 200km/h barrier at MEX highway.. 5 minutes later.. blow my right side rear tyre...  doh.gif
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Nov 20 2009, 02:54 AM)
lol...so dangerous man sweat.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif he is a dangerous guy!!! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 01:32 AM)
finally break 200km/h barrier at MEX highway.. 5 minutes later.. blow my right side rear tyre...  doh.gif
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Time to upgrade to better rims and tyres. brows.gif


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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 20 2009, 08:54 AM)
u happy can already.. hehe..

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But the weather kinda cloudy right now... doh.gif

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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 20 2009, 08:54 AM)
u happy can already.. hehe..

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thienwu, tyre blown...dangerous.. are you using ori tyres? maybe it wasn't designed to run at that kind of speeds...
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alot respect for u...even my car cant do tht...stock tyre sure it can tahan but just some nails or crack defect on ur tyres...


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QUOTE(amd_hardcore @ Nov 19 2009, 11:11 PM)
want to ask... The Sustec adjustable absorber good ka? is it reliable? i dont want to buy it then around 1 year that absorber kaput dy....

also , sport absorber what brand is good?

btw , it is for waja
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nope....it is cheap i know...but it is bumpy like shit...i tested on my frenz car....eeewww...dun like it..unless u like those kinda traack car on bumpy road feelings...feel free to go ahead....reliability??..not sure..im sure the owner wont last 1st...


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QUOTE(ben_cps @ Nov 19 2009, 11:10 PM)
does waja cps (m) have EBD???
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aiks..good question...duno woo...

any1....got ar???

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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 01:32 AM)
finally break 200km/h barrier at MEX highway.. 5 minutes later.. blow my right side rear tyre...  doh.gif
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after our tt session eh? bro your original tyre can't run at that speed... keep running like you'll end up blowing all the tyres...
time to upgrade.... tongue.gif

QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 20 2009, 08:54 AM)
u happy can already.. hehe..

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thienwu, tyre blown...dangerous.. are you using ori tyres? maybe it wasn't designed to run at that kind of speeds...
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i've seen the action once, a car in front me, both were travelling 170km/h, LPT.... pretty scary i must say...
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 20 2009, 10:01 AM)
after our tt session eh?  bro your original tyre can't run at that speed... keep running like you'll end up blowing all the tyres...
time to upgrade....  tongue.gif
i've seen the action once, a car in front me, both were travelling 170km/h, LPT.... pretty scary i must say...
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time to upgrade definetly....VerM...yesterday..saw car wif ur rim...but no R3 engraving..soo urs still special 1..haha..exactly same but no engrave...

dammn..tu laa talk2 hpc hpc..later stim try on highway...wekekekeke....jangan maraaaaah icon_rolleyes.gif ....poison me sumore laugh.gif ....but..good tht u`re ok...
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QUOTE(amd_hardcore @ Nov 19 2009, 11:11 PM)
want to ask... The Sustec adjustable absorber good ka? is it reliable? i dont want to buy it then around 1 year that absorber kaput dy....

also , sport absorber what brand is good?

btw , it is for waja
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i heard the sustec is Tanabe sister company, but not sure how true is that.


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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 20 2009, 10:08 AM)
time to upgrade definetly....VerM...yesterday..saw car wif ur rim...but no R3 engraving..soo urs still special 1..haha..exactly same but no engrave...

dammn..tu laa talk2 hpc hpc..later stim try on highway...wekekekeke....jangan maraaaaah icon_rolleyes.gif ....poison me sumore laugh.gif ....but..good tht u`re ok...
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you didn't take any pics?
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you didn't take any pics?
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100% same just no engraving...color osso same..rim cap plain color n no r3 at all...im driving..hardly to snap a pic..look cool like 17" from far thumbup.gif ....lady driver lagi haha...knew it it her car..coz can c..lady driver inside_ sticker at the rear glass...
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[quote=eujinee,Nov 20 2009, 09:52 AM]
notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

alot respect for u...even my car cant do tht...stock tyre sure it can tahan but just some nails or crack defect on ur tyres...

my standard tyre is 88V which not mistaken can stand up to 240km/h... i think i hit that reflective road marker after putrajaya toll corner which resulting the blown tyre... btw was chasing neo CPS and Perdana that time.. now i understand why neo CPS engage later.. their pick up is thumbup.gif...
nasib today gaji already... after this.. nak cari tayar.. nak cari tayar..

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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 01:32 AM)
finally break 200km/h barrier at MEX highway.. 5 minutes later.. blow my right side rear tyre...  doh.gif
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Woot~
thumbup.gif notworthy.gif thumbup.gif

i need titanium ball on that... sweat.gif
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[quote=ThienWu,Nov 20 2009, 12:55 PM]
[quote=eujinee,Nov 20 2009, 09:52 AM]
notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

alot respect for u...even my car cant do tht...stock tyre sure it can tahan but just some nails or crack defect on ur tyres...

my standard tyre is 88V which not mistaken can stand up to 240km/h... i think i hit that reflective road marker after putrajaya toll corner which resulting the blown tyre... btw was chasing neo CPS and Perdana that time.. now i understand why neo CPS engage later.. their pick up is thumbup.gif...
nasib today gaji already... after this.. nak cari tayar.. nak cari tayar..
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so that neo n perdana also at 200kmh la rite? sweat.gif
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[quote=ThienWu,Nov 20 2009, 12:55 PM]
[quote=eujinee,Nov 20 2009, 09:52 AM]
notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

alot respect for u...even my car cant do tht...stock tyre sure it can tahan but just some nails or crack defect on ur tyres...

my standard tyre is 88V which not mistaken can stand up to 240km/h... i think i hit that reflective road marker after putrajaya toll corner which resulting the blown tyre... btw was chasing neo CPS and Perdana that time.. now i understand why neo CPS engage later.. their pick up is thumbup.gif...
nasib today gaji already... after this.. nak cari tayar.. nak cari tayar..
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At 200km/h how high is the rpm?
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Nov 16 2009, 10:44 AM)
V5 already...  thumbup.gif
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I am driving waja cps auto.
Every morning i facing gear changing problem only 1st gear change to 2nd gear it will jerk.

Can help does anyone of you all face thos problem.
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QUOTE(biglord12345 @ Nov 20 2009, 05:06 PM)
I am driving waja cps auto.
Every morning i facing gear changing problem only 1st gear change to 2nd gear it will jerk.

Can help does anyone of you all face thos problem.
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I also faced that. everyone driving auto facing that problem. jz wait till your engine heated up den start driving to minimize jerking. According to SC, its normal.
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QUOTE(biglord12345 @ Nov 20 2009, 05:06 PM)
I am driving waja cps auto.
Every morning i facing gear changing problem only 1st gear change to 2nd gear it will jerk.

Can help does anyone of you all face thos problem.
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is it after start the car?? usually its normal... if after the car has been drove for awhile still like that, then its not normal...
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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Nov 20 2009, 04:09 PM)
At 200km/h how high is the rpm?
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Should be about 5.6k++ rpm...
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 20 2009, 06:20 PM)
Should be about 5.6k++ rpm...
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yup somewhere that area... but i push till 6.5k++ on 4th gear

btw done my cari tyre mission...

result: enkei t-fork performance rim + falken ziex 205/50/16
damage: 2k (trade in ori rim + tyre 700)
location: rawang

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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 07:45 PM)
yup somewhere that area... but i push till 6.5k++ on 4th gear

btw done my cari tyre mission...

result: enkei t-fork performance rim + falken ziex 205/50/16
damage: 2k (trade in ori rim + tyre 700)
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4th gear at 7.2k rpm = 180km/h brows.gif

Upload the picture ler... brows.gif Those falken are 912 or 522?

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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 07:45 PM)
yup somewhere that area... but i push till 6.5k++ on 4th gear

btw done my cari tyre mission...

result: enkei t-fork performance rim + falken ziex 205/50/16
damage: 2k (trade in ori rim + tyre 700)
location: rawang
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thienwu do it on purposed...wan change rim..soo easy answer..rim pecah terpaksa beli baru...hahaha
go new rim...go new rim brows.gif .....wehh share us pic lerrr laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 07:45 PM)
yup somewhere that area... but i push till 6.5k++ on 4th gear

btw done my cari tyre mission...

result: enkei t-fork performance rim + falken ziex 205/50/16
damage: 2k (trade in ori rim + tyre 700)
location: rawang
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i'm not cps owner, just wanna share here, was using falken ziex b4, but cant remember which model... 3 out of 4 tyres blown doh.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 20 2009, 07:54 PM)
4th gear at 7.2k rpm = 180km/h  brows.gif

Upload the picture ler...  brows.gif Those falken are 912 or 522?
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its 522.. is it ok ka??? u also use falken right???

QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 20 2009, 07:56 PM)
thienwu do it on purposed...wan change rim..soo easy answer..rim pecah terpaksa beli baru...hahaha
go new rim...go new rim brows.gif .....wehh share us pic lerrr laugh.gif
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hehe.. pandai la ko... actually quite worried bout the rim condition coz its take me quite sometime to realize there are some weird sound back there b4 i pull over last night...then when usha rim time the salesman wan to take my rim + tyre 700 well.. terus sambar la...
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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 08:16 PM)
its 522.. is it ok ka??? u also use falken right???
hehe.. pandai la ko... actually quite worried bout the rim condition coz its take me quite sometime to realize there are some weird sound back there b4 i pull over last night...then when usha rim time the salesman wan to take my rim + tyre 700 well.. terus sambar la...
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I'm using Ziex 912, which cost 275 /pc.

Nice rims, next mod, sport spring?
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I'm using Ziex 912, which cost 275 /pc.

Nice rims, next mod, sport spring?
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after look at the gap.... hmm.gif
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after look at the gap....  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 08:16 PM)
its 522.. is it ok ka??? u also use falken right???
hehe.. pandai la ko... actually quite worried bout the rim condition coz its take me quite sometime to realize there are some weird sound back there b4 i pull over last night...then when usha rim time the salesman wan to take my rim + tyre 700 well.. terus sambar la...
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haha....but nice...wah sumer go dark color..ganazzzzzzzzz....

QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 08:19 PM)
after look at the gap....
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whistling.gif laugh.gif ......still looking for good spring...ke nk ke eibach pro kit terus?? laugh.gif...nk tt tmoro ker...or nextweek??eujin nextweek..trun kl..

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 20 2009, 08:23 PM)
Hehehe. I've been there already...  brows.gif
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hehehe... this one is racun roundup...

QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 20 2009, 08:25 PM)
haha....but nice...wah sumer go dark color..ganazzzzzzzzz....
whistling.gif  laugh.gif ......still looking for  good spring...ke nk ke eibach pro kit terus?? laugh.gif...nk tt tmoro ker...or nextweek??eujin nextweek..trun kl..
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calling2 la... but next week also ok.. i miss last TT with eujin.. still wanna hear how "merdu" hotbit setup is...

btw.. this is what qouted by power zone...

salam..

powerzone extractor untuk campro cps RM490.00 termasuk permasangan
cadangan , masuk powerzone super Hi-Flow center bullet RM210.00 termasuk pemasangan..

sila hubungi amri 0163696442 untuk sebarang pertanyaan dan appoiment .
harap maklum

ada berani rydeck???
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QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 20 2009, 09:52 AM)
nope....it is cheap i know...but it is bumpy like shit...i tested on my frenz car....eeewww...dun like it..unless u like those kinda traack car on bumpy road feelings...feel free to go ahead....reliability??..not sure..im sure the owner wont last 1st...
At g2c forum, a seller offer this sustec with spring rate option.. 5k front/3k rear and 6k front/4k rear.. Maybe can try... Heard it can last more than 2 years...
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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 08:37 PM)
hehehe... this one is racun roundup...
calling2 la... but next week also ok.. i miss last TT with eujin.. still wanna hear how "merdu" hotbit setup is...

btw.. this is what qouted by power zone...

salam..

powerzone extractor untuk campro cps RM490.00 termasuk permasangan
cadangan , masuk powerzone super Hi-Flow center bullet RM210.00 termasuk pemasangan..

sila hubungi amri 0163696442 untuk sebarang pertanyaan dan appoiment .
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ok...i will inform... nod.gif

dammn sweat.gif ....RM490?...wanna try?? laugh.gif brows.gif
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ok...i will inform... nod.gif

dammn sweat.gif ....RM490?...wanna try?? laugh.gif  brows.gif
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hehe.. this month tutup kedai 1st... or...  hmm.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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haha...c how...bz lately...my car almost 3 week no wash..looks like  doh.gif
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 20 2009, 09:15 PM)
haha...c how...bz lately...my car almost 3 week no wash..looks like  doh.gif
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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 09:17 PM)
hujan lor.. no meaning wash also... mine already 2 week.. now look like hitam tompok2...  laugh.gif
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rydeck, tt session no need wash your car laaa.... we are not some cute chicks you want to show some shining car.....
amcam.... test new tyres 2nite? MEX?
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Thienwu, nice rims.... i wish to have one too but no money now...

Eujinee, EBD we all cps waja got it. electronic brake distribution smth like tat. dunno wat it stands for. its used to stabilize the car if one of the wheels go spinning out of control ie when accelerating from start. u can see the yellow 'skidding' icon on the ur meter panel on right side *beside the blue engine cold icon.

Rydeck, my car also tompok coklat/putih + twilight blue background... hahaha.. have to wash it this afternoon IF the weather permits.
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ThienWu : ur OEM tyre is it Conti CC or NS500?
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QUOTE(ben_cps @ Nov 19 2009, 11:10 PM)
does waja cps (m) have EBD???
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Increase in braking performance through optimized fore-aft brake balance,
Overall brake performance is increased by optimizing front/rear brake pressure distribution according to vehicle load.
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 21 2009, 06:36 AM)
Thienwu, nice rims.... i wish to have one too but no money now...

Eujinee, EBD we all cps waja got it. electronic brake distribution smth like tat. dunno wat it stands for. its used to stabilize the car if one of the wheels go spinning out of control ie when accelerating from start. u can see the yellow 'skidding' icon on the ur meter panel on right side *beside the blue engine cold icon.

Rydeck, my car also tompok coklat/putih + twilight blue background... hahaha.. have to wash it this afternoon IF the weather permits.
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EBD varies the amount of braking for each brakes independently to provide maximum stopping (more on front than rear) and help stabilized the car when braking while cornering cause understeer (if turn right, it will put more power onto the right side brake to help you turn). nod.gif

The yellow skidding icon if not mistaken is for traction control. hmm.gif


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Our cars got Traction Control meh??

You mean this light?
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Our cars got Traction Control meh??

You mean this light?
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I thought Traction Control only come with expensive car...  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 21 2009, 06:36 AM)
Thienwu, nice rims.... i wish to have one too but no money now...

Eujinee, EBD we all cps waja got it. electronic brake distribution smth like tat. dunno wat it stands for. its used to stabilize the car if one of the wheels go spinning out of control ie when accelerating from start. u can see the yellow 'skidding' icon on the ur meter panel on right side *beside the blue engine cold icon.

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ThienWu : ur OEM tyre is it Conti CC or NS500?
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 21 2009, 11:35 AM)
Our cars got Traction Control meh??

You mean this light?
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I thought Traction Control only come with expensive car...  sweat.gif
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yep. we got traction control.. hahaha... not really but i think similar lo...

if u try sprinting while cornering especially when ur tyres are wet.. ur tyres will not spin out of control with the yellow icon (might be EBD or TC working). it works to slow down your gas so that your tyres will gain enough traction and not spinning out of control (too bad no chance to drift) biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 21 2009, 01:58 PM)
yep. we got traction control.. hahaha... not really but i think similar lo...

if u try sprinting while cornering especially when ur tyres are wet.. ur tyres will not spin out of control with the yellow icon (might be EBD or TC working). it works to slow down your gas so that your tyres will gain enough traction and not spinning out of control (too bad no chance to drift) biggrin.gif
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Added on November 21, 2009, 7:36 pmAnyone knew/done modding the side mirror to fold automatically when we arm the alarm system?

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 21 2009, 03:23 PM)
No TC in our car and TC is not the same with EBD. TC controls the throttle while EBD controls the brake. I always got whellspin when going out of junction and no icon is lit. Time for LSD upgrade. brows.gif


Added on November 21, 2009, 7:36 pmAnyone knew/done modding the side mirror to fold automatically when we arm the alarm system?
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oh... i dunno about it.. haha.. i thought it was the same thing.. anyway, thnx for clarifying.

i don't think you wan to mod it. even add relay also u can only fold it automatically. u will then need to unfold it manually. i asked the shop before. need to add a controller to our alarm system to control. btw, i dun think its good coz ur folding motor is going to burn much much faster.. hehe
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 21 2009, 08:32 PM)
oh... i dunno about it.. haha.. i thought it was the same thing.. anyway, thnx for clarifying.

i don't think you wan to mod it. even add relay also u can only fold it automatically. u will then need to unfold it manually. i asked the shop before. need to add a controller to our alarm system to control. btw, i dun think its good coz ur folding motor is going to burn much much faster.. hehe
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For triggering the fold/unfold
I was thinking of tapping the wire for the alarm sound

Timer
555 timer circuit which drive a relay to fold/unfold.

To distinguish between fold/unfold
By using the one or two beeping signal (for sound when arm/disarm) it will fold/unfold.

Power
Tap from the fuse box (12v) and use regulator to get 5V, or issit a 5V source from the fuse box?

Obstacle
Have to cut wires... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 21 2009, 01:58 PM)
yep. we got traction control.. hahaha... not really but i think similar lo...

if u try sprinting while cornering especially when ur tyres are wet.. ur tyres will not spin out of control with the yellow icon (might be EBD or TC working). it works to slow down your gas so that your tyres will gain enough traction and not spinning out of control (too bad no chance to drift) biggrin.gif
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no we don't have tc system in our current cps...

the tc indicator is for future use should proton want to include tc system in their next generation car.
similarly, you'd find driver seatbelt indicator is available but proton didn't install the sensor...

QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 21 2009, 08:46 PM)
For triggering the fold/unfold
I was thinking of tapping the wire for the alarm sound

Timer
555 timer circuit which drive a relay to fold/unfold.

To distinguish between fold/unfold
By using the one or two beeping signal (for sound when arm/disarm) it will fold/unfold.

Power
Tap from the fuse box (12v) and use regulator to get 5V, or issit a 5V source from the fuse box?

Obstacle
Have to cut wires... sweat.gif
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i thought of doing the same thing but one conti owner said to me even factory fitted alarm triggerred/ignition off fold/unfold side mirror cause a lot of problems...

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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 21 2009, 09:01 PM)
i thought of doing the same thing but one conti owner said to me even factory fitted alarm triggerred/ignition off fold/unfold side mirror cause a lot of problems...
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Added on November 21, 2009, 9:04 pmBut the real problem is that if you forgot to arm the alarm, people will know from afar.

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anyone knows how much it will cost me to get an automatic folder for sidemirror? gen2 dont have the function like waja.-.-
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For EBD in proton, they have a sensor which calculate all 4 wheels speed. When apply brake, the sensor will sent signal to the brake system and then the system will apply brake pressure according the speed on each 4 wheels. It will balance the braking by supplied sufficient pressure for all 4 wheels and make sure the vehicle will not skid.
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anyone knows how much it will cost me to get an automatic folder for sidemirror? gen2 dont have the function like waja.-.-
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 21 2009, 08:46 PM)
For triggering the fold/unfold
I was thinking of tapping the wire for the alarm sound

Timer
555 timer circuit which drive a relay to fold/unfold.

To distinguish between fold/unfold
By using the one or two beeping signal (for sound when arm/disarm) it will fold/unfold.

Power
Tap from the fuse box (12v) and use regulator to get 5V, or issit a 5V source from the fuse box?

Obstacle
Have to cut wires... sweat.gif
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Tap from the A-pillar or from side mirror itself.


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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 21 2009, 01:58 PM)
yep. we got traction control.. hahaha... not really but i think similar lo...

if u try sprinting while cornering especially when ur tyres are wet.. ur tyres will not spin out of control with the yellow icon (might be EBD or TC working). it works to slow down your gas so that your tyres will gain enough traction and not spinning out of control (too bad no chance to drift) biggrin.gif
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drifted my car b4...still no icon lighted up....so..mmmm
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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 20 2009, 09:20 AM)
this must be very interesting.


Added on November 20, 2009, 9:24 am

in fact i've been keep my eyes closely on the CVT conversion, would like to listen comment more from the owner.....
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I've been surfing around and found that Bosch have CVTs..wonder if it'll fit and work better with our CPS? hmm.gif
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Hmmm..well, to me..that's the best mod..but byk mahal!
I've been surfing around and found that Bosch have CVTs..wonder if it'll fit and work better with our CPS?  hmm.gif
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Tap from the A-pillar or from side mirror itself.
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I need it to powered yhe timer circuit which means that it must have power when the keys are pulled out.

QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Nov 22 2009, 05:17 AM)
Hmmm..well, to me..that's the best mod..but byk mahal!
I've been surfing around and found that Bosch have CVTs..wonder if it'll fit and work better with our CPS?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 22 2009, 10:27 AM)
any idea how much does it cost?
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Honda CVT is about 20k... So.. hmm.gif laugh.gif
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new persona facelift taken by drexchan.

http://drexchan.fotopic.net/p62212109.html

apparently new ECU is being used to power the IAFM unit... hm....

eujinee, my icon did light up when i accelerate out of corner n start skidding...
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 22 2009, 11:23 AM)
new persona facelift taken by drexchan.

http://drexchan.fotopic.net/p62212109.html

apparently new ECU is being used to power the IAFM unit... hm....

eujinee, my icon did light up when i accelerate out of corner n start skidding...
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I've always wheel spin until the car pulled to the left when launching from standstill at 5k rpm, but no lit icon. hmm.gif
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and i can really feel the engine slowing down le.. EBD working? hm... dunno how to explain...


Added on November 22, 2009, 11:38 ammaybe mine got TC lo... hahahah.... joking joking...

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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 22 2009, 11:23 AM)
new persona facelift taken by drexchan.

http://drexchan.fotopic.net/p62212109.html

apparently new ECU is being used to power the IAFM unit... hm....
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Nice side mirror, bigger.. Can eliminate some blind spot... Front skirt drool.gif
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 22 2009, 11:23 AM)
new persona facelift taken by drexchan.

http://drexchan.fotopic.net/p62212109.html

apparently new ECU is being used to power the IAFM unit... hm....

eujinee, my icon did light up when i accelerate out of corner n start skidding...
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i saw the side mirror come with signal ~ thumbup.gif
definitely will change to this one laugh.gif
is it same as Exora one?

and i also saw like not using integrated HU anymore oh... hmm.gif

Rear taillight i guess would be using LED as well... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 22 2009, 11:37 AM)
and i can really feel the engine slowing down le.. EBD working? hm... dunno how to explain...


Added on November 22, 2009, 11:38 ammaybe mine got TC lo... hahahah.... joking joking...
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Side mirror a bit funny on persona laugh.gif
But still no cps sweat.gif
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waa. the position of the air filter of persona's facelift seems not bad..
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waa. the position of the air filter of persona's facelift seems not bad..
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i must agree the current air filter position and using of clips is very must better then previous.

And the front lips really looks nice.....


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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 22 2009, 02:25 PM)
i must agree the current air filter position and using of clips is very must better then previous.

And the front lips really looks nice.....
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I still think that the air filter position is the same with the old IAFM persona. Just they leave the engine 'naked' without cover.

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 03:22 PM)
I still think that the air filter position is the same with the old IAFM persona. Just they leave the engine 'naked' without cover.
If no cover is 'naked', then our cps is 'naked' lah ekk.. tongue.gif tongue.gif

iafm have 4 coil for spark plug, no distributor... Is it better then 1 coil+distributor as our cps? Cannot use hppc ek..?
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from the picture of the wing mirror, if you look carefully, it seems like the HU also has changed.


Added on November 22, 2009, 5:50 pmit's using an 8 spokes sport rim and in the picture, still using eagle nct 5 tyres.
i was also thinking of getting a sport rim with more spokes to replace my current Persona SE one. went to look just now and snapped a few photos. but now seeing an 8 spokes 15" rim fitted to the car, doesnt seem that appealing to me.

later maybe i post the photos of the rims i took here

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 11:28 AM)
Still no CPS for Persona.. thumbup.gif  laugh.gif

I've always wheel spin until the car pulled to the left when launching from standstill at 5k rpm, but no lit icon. hmm.gif
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It wont have the icon light on. If it sometime light on, the sensor can't read the signal. Sometime it will light on when like doing emergency brake or hard corner with sudden apply brake.

QUOTE(pearjar @ Nov 22 2009, 04:03 PM)
If no cover is 'naked', then our cps is 'naked' lah ekk.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif

iafm have 4 coil for spark plug, no distributor... Is it better then 1 coil+distributor as our cps? Cannot use hppc ek..?
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Of course 1 coil one spark plug is better. As our cps using Double Coil. 1 coil 2 spark plugs.
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 22 2009, 11:23 AM)
new persona facelift taken by drexchan.

http://drexchan.fotopic.net/p62212109.html

apparently new ECU is being used to power the IAFM unit... hm....

eujinee, my icon did light up when i accelerate out of corner n start skidding...
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here, i just posted the pictures of the sport rims i saw in the persona thread.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1160071/+1000

if interested can go have a look
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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Nov 22 2009, 06:46 PM)
here, i just posted the pictures of the sport rims i saw in the persona thread.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1160071/+1000

if interested can go have a look
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Go for 16". brows.gif
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ya.. i saw a 16" with 7 spokes. somehow it looked way better. maybe a psychological thing...
but don't want the FC to increase due to heavier rims. unless can find a 16" lighter or same weight as my current rim la. changing to 16" also means that i need to change tyres.

i see in mudah or lelong, many ppl asking for swap to 15" with their 16" rim. i think they really felt the high FC or maybe bumpiness i guess.
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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Nov 22 2009, 06:53 PM)
ya.. i saw a 16" with 7 spokes. somehow it looked way better. maybe a psychological thing...
but don't want the FC to increase due to heavier rims. unless can find a 16" lighter or same weight as my current rim la. changing to 16" also means that i need to change tyres.

i see in mudah or lelong, many ppl asking for swap to 15" with their 16" rim. i think they really felt the high FC or maybe bumpiness i guess.
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everyone got own taste.. hehe.. rims designs are never ending.. hehe..

about the EBD / ABS and skid indicator, i think i will take u guys word for it. it must be my mind playing with me when i saw the yellow indicator... biggrin.gif
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just curious..y i didnt experienced like this vid..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvNSqNNZHk8&feature=related


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QUOTE(-= SirdukE =- @ Nov 22 2009, 07:29 PM)
just curious..y i didnt experienced like this vid..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvNSqNNZHk8&feature=related
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From my eyes it's just until 190kmh only
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 21 2009, 11:35 AM)
Our cars got Traction Control meh??

You mean this light?
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I thought Traction Control only come with expensive car...  sweat.gif
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the slipage indicator in my opinion is actually for ABS....

QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 22 2009, 06:25 PM)
It wont have the icon light on. If it sometime light on, the sensor can't read the signal. Sometime it will light on when like doing emergency brake or hard corner with sudden apply brake.
Of course 1 coil one spark plug is better. As our cps using Double Coil. 1 coil 2 spark plugs.
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yes, the sensor doesn't seem to operate correctly although ABS is engaging...


QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 22 2009, 06:32 PM)
aiks...???got meh...me drift, hard brake, hand brake, watever also din see the light on b4 while driving...
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sometimes it lit ... most of the time it doesn't... not sure on how much 'hard braking' will trigger the indicator... if my memory serve me correct, it did lit up when i was doing some 'hard braking' in sepang...

QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 22 2009, 07:28 PM)
everyone got own taste.. hehe.. rims designs are never ending.. hehe..

about the EBD / ABS and skid indicator, i think i will take u guys word for it. it must be my mind playing with me when i saw the yellow indicator... biggrin.gif
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perhaps.... hehehehe...

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QUOTE(ezwann @ Nov 22 2009, 07:34 PM)
From my eyes it's just until 190kmh only
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 22 2009, 08:00 PM)
the slipage indicator in my opinion is actually for ABS....
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Same thought as you,
that indicator is for ABS too...

was thinking how to make it 'light' up once... brows.gif
at least i know it 'working' laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 22 2009, 09:17 PM)
Same thought as you,
that indicator is for ABS too...

was thinking how to make it 'light' up once...  brows.gif
at least i know it 'working'  laugh.gif
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user posted image

Confirmed it come with turn signal indicators integrated in the wing mirrors~ rclxms.gif

and nice front and rear lips ~ rclxms.gif

Read more: HERE
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i think drexchan's page is overly flooded... cannot go inside for time being.. its a nice update by proton for the persona model. too bad no cps engine for it yet.
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i have printscreen all those photos in drexchan's page. laugh.gif

want me upload here?

i guess if Persona come with CPS Engine,
it will kill Waja market.. rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 22 2009, 09:30 PM)
i have printscreen all those photos in drexchan's page.  laugh.gif

want me upload here?

i guess if Persona come with CPS Engine,
it will kill Waja market..  rolleyes.gif
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yep agree with u guys statement... good also proton keeps the cps to the top end market. who knows.. the persona SE might get the CPS for the price of basic waja in future..

ahpaul : no need la.. i think we can visit drexchan page later when the topic starts to cool off.. hehe..
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like someone mention in Paultan website,

Proton should launch the Persona CPS after new WAJA with new engine come out...

Few more pictures you can see: HERE
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like someone mention in Paultan website,

Proton should launch the Persona CPS after new WAJA with new engine come out...

Few more pictures you can see: HERE
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Waja with turbocharged engine? brows.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 09:23 PM)
Maybe can ask the SC person to use the PDT to 'test' those icon.
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Sekali test charge Rm65 at SC. biggrin.gif
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Hi all,
The Persona facelift still be using Campro IAFM engine with new ECU? What is the different between current & new ECU? :erm:

Interior (dashboard) still the same? Any spyshot on the price? :brows:
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Sekali test charge Rm65 at SC.  biggrin.gif
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But SC staff should be able to do it for free... whistling.gif brows.gif

QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Nov 22 2009, 10:56 PM)
Hi all,
The Persona facelift still be using Campro IAFM engine with new ECU? What is the different between current & new ECU? :erm:

Interior (dashboard) still the same? Any spyshot on the price? :brows:
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More bits size, more mapping point, more variables, more calculation per sec, thus better power and FC (theoretically). hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 10:18 PM)
Waja with turbocharged engine? brows.gif
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Do you dare to buy? laugh.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 22 2009, 10:41 PM)
Sekali test charge Rm65 at SC.  biggrin.gif
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Hi singchaii,
i was thinking to remap or retune my ECU,
Which SC you would suggest? biggrin.gif
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Do you dare to buy?  laugh.gif
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If they sold BOT package with warranty, why not. brows.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 11:26 PM)
If they sold BOT package with warranty, why not. brows.gif
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i guess reliability/durability still is a main issue gua ... sad.gif

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 11:26 PM)
If they sold BOT package with warranty, why not. brows.gif
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Added on November 23, 2009, 7:23 am
QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 03:22 PM)
I still think that the air filter position is the same with the old IAFM persona. Just they leave the engine 'naked' without cover.

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yea it looks the same, not aware that IAFM air filter is different from normal campro. sweat.gif



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yea it looks the same, not aware that IAFM air filter is different from normal campro.  sweat.gif
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haih..window drop again..............hate the power window....motor works fine..just the glass is out of its holder....damn dulan..wana super glued the glass to the mounting................aRRGGGHHHHHhhh..hate it
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 23 2009, 09:14 AM)
But the old design look neat with the cover.
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removing the cover probably to compensate the cost of adding/replacing new things in order to maintain the price...
i guess for proton, the bottom line matters...
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 23 2009, 09:14 AM)
But the old design look neat with the cover.
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The old version of campro air filter tends to be very noisy when hihg rev, that's why I changed my Gen2 air filter to Waja type. More responsive and more quiet.


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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 23 2009, 07:18 AM)
yea it looks the same, not aware that IAFM air filter is different from normal campro.  sweat.gif
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Where i can get second hand unit of that air filter set ekk.. Wanna try to use it with my cai setup...
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QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 23 2009, 09:51 AM)
haih..window drop again..............hate the power window....motor works fine..just the glass is out of its  holder....damn dulan..wana super glued the glass to the mounting................aRRGGGHHHHHhhh..hate it
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Use silicon glue, the one used for making glass aquarium.
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Nov 23 2009, 10:18 AM)
Where i can get second hand unit of that air filter set ekk.. Wanna try to use it with my cai setup...
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I think halfcut shop should have or u try mudah.com.my. Price should not more then RM80.


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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 20 2009, 09:44 PM)
rydeck, tt session no need wash your car laaa.... we are not some cute chicks you want to show some shining car.....
amcam.... test new tyres 2nite? MEX?
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not for u ehh..for others lerr... laugh.gif

QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 20 2009, 10:02 PM)
relax bos.. let its settle 1st.. after yesterday "thing"... frankly.. i think i'm very lucky.. if its blow the front one....  cry.gif
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thumbup.gif its ok ..new rim wut laugh.gif


QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 21 2009, 03:47 AM)
Just back from Putrajaya,

sigh, all the way no tiang lampu
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whistling.gif no tiang at all??

QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 21 2009, 06:36 AM)
Thienwu, nice rims.... i wish to have one too but no money now...

Eujinee, EBD we all cps waja got it. electronic brake distribution smth like tat. dunno wat it stands for. its used to stabilize the car if one of the wheels go spinning out of control ie when accelerating from start. u can see the yellow 'skidding' icon on the ur meter panel on right side *beside the blue engine cold icon.

Rydeck, my car also tompok coklat/putih + twilight blue background... hahaha.. have to wash it this afternoon IF the weather permits.
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 22 2009, 09:23 PM)
user posted image

Confirmed it come with turn signal indicators integrated in the wing mirrors

and nice front and rear lips

Read more: HERE
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nice...but waja cps still no 1!!! thumbup.gif

QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 10:18 PM)
Waja with turbocharged engine? brows.gif
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yup..if they put cps on persona..waja should go turbooo!!

QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 23 2009, 09:51 AM)
haih..window drop again..............hate the power window....motor works fine..just the glass is out of its  holder....damn dulan..wana super glued the glass to the mounting................aRRGGGHHHHHhhh..hate it
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soo far mine is ok..but notice the glass unbalance when winding down n up.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 23 2009, 01:00 PM)
not for u ehh..for others lerr... laugh.gif
thumbup.gif its ok ..new rim wut laugh.gif
whistling.gif no tiang at all??
tompok2 still ok bro..mine got grafiti..then fingerprint all over when park outside..all those junior punk at my house dammn creative..sumore now school holiday.. doh.gif
nice...but waja cps still no 1!!! thumbup.gif
yup..if they put cps on persona..waja should go turbooo!!
soo far mine is ok..but notice the glass unbalance when winding down n up.. sweat.gif
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glass unbalance arr? about time to spoilt lioa.....change to metal 1 la..solve the problem, but created new problem of wind noise.


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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 23 2009, 03:19 PM)
glass unbalance arr? about time to spoilt lioa.....change to metal 1 la..solve the problem, but created new problem of wind noise.
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mine oledi metal 1 bro... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 11:12 PM)
But SC staff should be able to do it for free...  whistling.gif  brows.gif
More bits size, more mapping point, more variables, more calculation per sec, thus better power and FC (theoretically). hmm.gif
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yeah... that why every week i use PDT to tune my TPS to 100%. But it hard to get 100%.. I tried get 93% only.. If got 100% got tps, it more fun to drive with. hehe.

QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 22 2009, 11:24 PM)
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Do you dare to buy?  laugh.gif
Hi singchaii,
i was thinking to remap or retune my ECU,
Which SC you would suggest?  biggrin.gif
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remap or retune ECU can't do in SC. SC didn't provide this service. It only can re-tune back by following original spec and SC wont do this cause it used alot of time. Yours is continental ECU? I can help you modified the VIM to increase better power but fc will increase too.. brows.gif


that day I see some member saying about the TC light on our meter. I take out a waja cps meter and check. It had many icon is not using like safety belt, tc and etc... Proton put that for suka suka. If you wan that light on, install bulb to it. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 23 2009, 04:26 PM)
yeah... that why every week i use PDT to tune my TPS to 100%. But it hard to get 100%.. I tried get 93% only.. If got 100% got tps, it more fun to drive with. hehe.
remap or retune ECU can't do in SC. SC didn't provide this service. It only can re-tune back by following original spec and SC wont do this cause it used alot of time. Yours is continental ECU? I can help you modified the VIM to increase better power but fc will increase too..  brows.gif
that day I see some member saying about the TC light on our meter. I take out a waja cps meter and check. It had many icon is not using like safety belt, tc and etc... Proton put that for suka suka. If you wan that light on, install bulb to it.  biggrin.gif
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About the throttle position sensor, is it using potentiometer (variable resistor)? Wanna do some project on that. brows.gif

If you take out the meter panel, please make a photo document of it for members to DIY, maybe can sell them online. nod.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 23 2009, 04:46 PM)
About the throttle position sensor, is it using potentiometer (variable resistor)? Wanna do some project on that. brows.gif

If you take out the meter panel, please make a photo document of it for members to DIY, maybe can sell them online.  nod.gif
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i alwiz feel wen my throttle at 70% pressure..is equals to 100% engine power...coz..around 70-100% pedal is equally same.....infact 100% doesnt feel is actually doin 100%..thts y drag usually i keep my pedal around 80% throttle...feel more power as auto gear does slip pretty badly...

and 4th gear is not really at its full 100% engine throttle


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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 23 2009, 03:19 PM)
glass unbalance arr? about time to spoilt lioa.....change to metal 1 la..solve the problem, but created new problem of wind noise.
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if ur power window doesnt rosak..u r not buying genuine proton..ahhahahhahah

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Added on November 23, 2009, 5:09 pm
if ur power window doesnt rosak..u r not buying genuine proton..ahhahahhahah
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juz driven my company persona 1.6A IAFM. got hissing sound like lorry's air filter sucking in air... haha...

power wise still acceptable quite good for auto i should say. more grunt compared to wira's 1.5A. i tested until 170kmh and still stable with a bit of wiggles due to tyres not balanced.

i love the handling. wish my waja can handle as good with the springs a bit hard than now. sigh... btw, i really trash the car.. biggrin.gif hard corner whack kao kao...

100kmh rpm at 2.8k, 110kmh rpm at 3.0k. i think quite fuel saving. done 450kms on RM66 (about 36.7liters). mind you its not yet 1st service... hehe...
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About the throttle position sensor, is it using potentiometer (variable resistor)? Wanna do some project on that. brows.gif

If you take out the meter panel, please make a photo document of it for members to DIY, maybe can sell them online.  nod.gif
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you mean the potentiometer on the accelerate pedal? What you gonna do on it? I tried alot with it and it not help while some make it worst.. Try tell me what you did and we discuss on it.. I only did modification on VIM on waja cps. It helped alot. biggrin.gif


Added on November 23, 2009, 10:38 pm
QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 23 2009, 05:06 PM)
i alwiz feel wen my throttle at 70% pressure..is equals to 100% engine power...coz..around 70-100% pedal is equally same.....infact 100% doesnt feel is actually doin 100%..thts y drag usually i keep my pedal around 80% throttle...feel more power as auto gear does slip pretty badly...

and 4th gear is not really at its full 100% engine throttle


Added on November 23, 2009, 5:09 pm
if ur power window doesnt rosak..u r not buying genuine proton..ahhahahhahah
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This is what I doing now. throttle 100% = TPS 100%. If i can get this setting, the car is really fun to drive. My supervisor perdana v6, persona iafm all get this setting. But it used alot of time.

QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 23 2009, 09:26 PM)
juz driven my company persona 1.6A IAFM. got hissing sound like lorry's air filter sucking in air... haha...

power wise still acceptable quite good for auto i should say. more grunt compared to wira's 1.5A. i tested until 170kmh and still stable with a bit of wiggles due to tyres not balanced.

i love the handling. wish my waja can handle as good with the springs a bit hard than now. sigh... btw, i really trash the car.. biggrin.gif hard corner whack kao kao...

100kmh rpm at 2.8k, 110kmh rpm at 3.0k. i think quite fuel saving. done 450kms on RM66 (about 36.7liters). mind you its not yet 1st service... hehe...
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You can. Behind suspension of persona all swap into your waja. You can see the different. My waja cps rear all using persona rear suspension like rear arm, dog bone, link. Persona rear suspension all so solid and thick.. Then, find satria GTi rear stabilizer bar and put into waja. You really can feel the handling improve greatly.

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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 23 2009, 01:00 PM)
whistling.gif no tiang at all??

nice...but waja cps still no 1!!! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 23 2009, 04:26 PM)
yeah... that why every week i use PDT to tune my TPS to 100%. But it hard to get 100%.. I tried get 93% only.. If got 100% got tps, it more fun to drive with. hehe.
remap or retune ECU can't do in SC. SC didn't provide this service. It only can re-tune back by following original spec and SC wont do this cause it used alot of time. Yours is continental ECU? I can help you modified the VIM to increase better power but fc will increase too..  brows.gif
that day I see some member saying about the TC light on our meter. I take out a waja cps meter and check. It had many icon is not using like safety belt, tc and etc... Proton put that for suka suka. If you wan that light on, install bulb to it.  biggrin.gif
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I'm not sure mine is which type of ECU... blush.gif

i wish to tune back original/stock setting. wink.gif

before that saw other forumers mention power kick in at 2800-2900rpm,
but mine seems like kick in too early, around 1800-2000rpm can slightly feel the power already... shakehead.gif
maybe that reason make my car high FC ? rclxub.gif

i don't mind bring my car for you have a look.
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 23 2009, 10:32 PM)
you mean the potentiometer on the accelerate pedal? What you gonna do on it? I tried alot with it and it not help while some make it worst.. Try tell me what you did and we discuss on it.. I only did modification on VIM on waja cps. It helped alot.  biggrin.gif
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1st you use a multimeter and get the output voltage for 0% and 100% throttle to the ECU (correct or not, throttle to ecu and then ecu control the TB?). The idea is tu put some sort of amplifier to amplify the signal but the amplifier must also be adjustable, so we can change the 'sharpness' of the throttle.


Added on November 23, 2009, 11:02 pmAnother way is to put a resistor in parallel with the potentiometer. But I need to know the resistance for 0% and 100% throttle.

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Dear Paul,

Thank you for your e-mail.

Rightfully, you should go back to the sales representative to get the Owner's Manual replaced.
However, if you wish to buy the manual, please come to our Parts Shoppe or call our toll free no. 1-800-88-8005 for further information.

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 23 2009, 11:21 PM)
Proton does have customer service:  tongue.gif


Dear Paul,

Thank you for your e-mail.

Rightfully, you should go back to the sales representative to get the Owner's Manual replaced.
However, if you wish to buy the manual, please come to our Parts Shoppe or call our toll free no. 1-800-88-8005 for further information.

Best regards.

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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 23 2009, 05:40 PM)
wonder mine is really proton..  hmm.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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nope ur mitsu blink.gif .....ah paul cannot get ??nvm nvm sweat.gif ....

QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 23 2009, 10:32 PM)

Added on November 23, 2009, 10:38 pm
This is what I doing now. throttle 100% = TPS 100%. If i can get this setting, the car is really fun to drive. My supervisor perdana v6, persona iafm all get this setting. But it used alot of time.
You can. Behind suspension of persona all swap into your waja. You can see the different. My waja cps rear all using persona rear suspension like rear arm, dog bone, link. Persona rear suspension all so solid and thick.. Then, find satria GTi rear stabilizer bar and put into waja. You really can feel the handling improve greatly.
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singchaii where ur location??wanna pay visit to ur place ler...ehh wut u mean by mod the VIM??wut the effect n contra of doing it??share ler abit brows.gif ...no wonder leh my fren said he use persona suspention..tot he joking hmm.gif ....


Added on November 24, 2009, 9:48 amguys..Raya Haj Tt...hows?eujin..can put the date ker???im not goin anywhere just dont do raya morning to noon bz ler..want cut cut slash the lembu.. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 23 2009, 03:34 PM)
mine oledi metal 1 bro... sweat.gif
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oh then it's about to spoilt also hahahaha.......you're doing Highly Accelerate Stress Test to your power window don't you?


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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 23 2009, 04:26 PM)
yeah... that why every week i use PDT to tune my TPS to 100%. But it hard to get 100%.. I tried get 93% only.. If got 100% got tps, it more fun to drive with. hehe.
remap or retune ECU can't do in SC. SC didn't provide this service. It only can re-tune back by following original spec and SC wont do this cause it used alot of time. Yours is continental ECU? I can help you modified the VIM to increase better power but fc will increase too..  brows.gif
that day I see some member saying about the TC light on our meter. I take out a waja cps meter and check. It had many icon is not using like safety belt, tc and etc... Proton put that for suka suka. If you wan that light on, install bulb to it.  biggrin.gif
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by putting in the bulb it won't work i afraid, the reason simply there is no wire on the connector to the meter. If u able to tap from fuse box and other related portion like TC, seat belt then it may work. biggrin.gif







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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 24 2009, 09:53 AM)
oh then it's about to spoilt also hahahaha.......you're doing Highly Accelerate Stress Test to your power window don't you?
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well zen..oledi happen..early tis year laugh.gif laugh.gif sweat.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 23 2009, 05:06 PM)
i alwiz feel wen my throttle at 70% pressure..is equals to 100% engine power...coz..around 70-100% pedal is equally same.....infact 100% doesnt feel is actually doin 100%..thts y drag usually i keep my pedal around 80% throttle...feel more power as auto gear does slip pretty badly...

and 4th gear is not really at its full 100% engine throttle


Added on November 23, 2009, 5:09 pm
if ur power window doesnt rosak..u r not buying genuine proton..ahhahahhahah
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i think u got ur point there hahaha


Added on November 24, 2009, 10:21 am
QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 24 2009, 09:44 AM)
nope ur mitsu blink.gif .....ah paul cannot get ??nvm nvm sweat.gif ....
singchaii where ur location??wanna pay visit to ur place ler...ehh wut u mean by mod the VIM??wut the effect n contra of doing it??share ler abit  brows.gif ...no wonder leh my fren said he use persona suspention..tot he joking hmm.gif ....


Added on November 24, 2009, 9:48 amguys..Raya Haj Tt...hows?eujin..can put the date ker???im not goin anywhere just dont do raya morning to noon bz ler..want cut cut slash the lembu.. laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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From hari Raya Puasa to hari Raya Haji still cannot reach penang.....apala... doh.gif




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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 23 2009, 11:21 PM)
Proton does have customer service:  tongue.gif


Dear Paul,

Thank you for your e-mail.

Rightfully, you should go back to the sales representative to get the Owner's Manual replaced.
However, if you wish to buy the manual, please come to our Parts Shoppe or call our toll free no. 1-800-88-8005 for further information.

Best regards.

Proton Parts Centre Sdn. Bhd.


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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 23 2009, 10:32 PM)
You can. Behind suspension of persona all swap into your waja. You can see the different. My waja cps rear all using persona rear suspension like rear arm, dog bone, link. Persona rear suspension all so solid and thick.. Then, find satria GTi rear stabilizer bar and put into waja. You really can feel the handling improve greatly.
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wah....persona rear suspension thicker than waja???.....what about gen2??..since its same with persona chasis... biggrin.gif
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Eh paul what the email for Proton customer service? Need to email them too.
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 23 2009, 10:32 PM)

You can. Behind suspension of persona all swap into your waja. You can see the different. My waja cps rear all using persona rear suspension like rear arm, dog bone, link. Persona rear suspension all so solid and thick.. Then, find satria GTi rear stabilizer bar and put into waja. You really can feel the handling improve greatly.
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how much to do the conversion? is it the rear suspension got so much effect on cornering? i just feel the waja wobbles a lot during cornering so thats why i ain't so confident driving it. but with persona, i dare to corner kao kao during my first time driving.. hehe.. talk about dare devil cornering average 120kmh on pagoh roads.. haha..
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 23 2009, 10:55 PM)
1st you use a multimeter and get the output voltage for 0% and 100% throttle to the ECU (correct or not, throttle to ecu and then ecu control the TB?). The idea is tu put some sort of amplifier to amplify the signal but the amplifier must also be adjustable, so we can change the 'sharpness' of the throttle.


Added on November 23, 2009, 11:02 pmAnother way is to put a resistor in parallel with the potentiometer. But I need to know the resistance for 0% and 100% throttle.
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Yeah.. throttle -> Ecu ->TB

QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 24 2009, 09:44 AM)
nope ur mitsu blink.gif .....ah paul cannot get ??nvm nvm sweat.gif ....
singchaii where ur location??wanna pay visit to ur place ler...ehh wut u mean by mod the VIM??wut the effect n contra of doing it??share ler abit  brows.gif ...no wonder leh my fren said he use persona suspention..tot he joking hmm.gif ....


Added on November 24, 2009, 9:48 amguys..Raya Haj Tt...hows?eujin..can put the date ker???im not goin anywhere just dont do raya morning to noon bz ler..want cut cut slash the lembu.. laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Suspension for persona/gen 2 is plug and play on a waja. It more thicker.. About the VIM, VIM is short and long length manifold.. So we mod it always use the short length manifold. So the power will increase.

QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 24 2009, 10:13 AM)
well zen..oledi happen..early tis year

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i ask the manager to assig best mec. and he ask the chief mec. to fix it..nice..no scratch at all..wahh jus realise how dark my tint..onli 65% actually..until now..ok..but can c some unbalance abit when winding it down..
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This is the proton edar at pandan jaya right? You stay that area?

QUOTE(loong2020 @ Nov 24 2009, 11:22 AM)
wah....persona rear suspension thicker than waja???.....what about gen2??..since its same with persona chasis... biggrin.gif
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Yes.. Persona rear suspension is more thicker than waja.

QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 24 2009, 04:29 PM)
how much to do the conversion? is it the rear suspension got so much effect on cornering? i just feel the waja wobbles a lot during cornering so thats why i ain't so confident driving it. but with persona, i dare to corner kao kao during my first time driving.. hehe.. talk about dare devil cornering average 120kmh on pagoh roads.. haha..
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Around Rm1k to do that.
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 24 2009, 07:54 PM)
Yeah.. throttle -> Ecu ->TB
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Can you get me the signal (should be in form of voltage values) feed into the ECU using a multimeter?
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 24 2009, 07:58 PM)
Can you get me the signal (should be in form of voltage values) feed into the ECU using a multimeter?
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Huh.. This is not easy as need to dismantle alot of stuff and find the correct wire to ecu. sweat.gif
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Huh.. This is not easy as need to dismantle alot of stuff and find the correct wire to ecu.  sweat.gif
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Though so. laugh.gif But this is an interesting project. Can use microcontroller and set 3 predefined setting for eco, normal and sport, and can change between them as we like.
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 24 2009, 07:54 PM)
Yeah.. throttle -> Ecu ->TB
Suspension for persona/gen 2 is plug and play on a waja. It more thicker.. About the VIM, VIM is short and long length manifold.. So we mod it always use the short length manifold. So the power will increase.
This is the proton edar at pandan jaya right? You stay that area?
Yes.. Persona rear suspension is more thicker than waja.
Around Rm1k to do that.
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Rm1k inclusive of all items involved and installation? Where would you recommend to do it? I'm also interested on VIM mod? Care to meet for TT?

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 24 2009, 08:36 PM)
Though so.  laugh.gif But this is an interesting project. Can use microcontroller and set 3 predefined setting for eco, normal and sport, and can change between them as we like.
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Oh.. My friend having that device but is for Vtec. sweat.gif This is interesting. Cause I thinking to use that vtec device and mod into our cps.

QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 24 2009, 08:37 PM)
Rm1k inclusive of all items involved and installation? Where would you recommend to do it? I'm also interested on VIM mod? Care to meet for TT?
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VIM mod it need to drill the VIM there and need some time to do.. RM1k is enough but not include the rear GTi anti roll bar. If you interested, i help u check the price and then change at my working SC.
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 24 2009, 09:37 PM)
Oh.. My friend having that device but is for Vtec.  sweat.gif  This is interesting. Cause I thinking to use that vtec device and mod into our cps.
VIM mod it need to drill the VIM there and need some time to do.. RM1k is enough but not include the rear GTi anti roll bar. If you interested, i help u check the price and then change at my working SC.
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If my idea can be done, it should cost less than RM50 per device. brows.gif
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If my idea can be done, it should cost less than RM50 per device. brows.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 24 2009, 09:37 PM)
Oh.. My friend having that device but is for Vtec.  sweat.gif  This is interesting. Cause I thinking to use that vtec device and mod into our cps.
VIM mod it need to drill the VIM there and need some time to do.. RM1k is enough but not include the rear GTi anti roll bar. If you interested, i help u check the price and then change at my working SC.
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sounds complicated for the VIM mod. i still prefer the persona mod hehe.. maybe i can swap with my office persona.. brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

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go for it mate! i will be ur test mice when the time comes biggrin.gif
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But need to find the values and which wire to tap 1st. brows.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 24 2009, 09:56 PM)
But need to find the values and which wire to tap 1st. brows.gif
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i only know the ECU is located somewhere behind the radio. to dismantle it will be like reaching into a very very dark area... shocking.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 24 2009, 09:56 PM)
But need to find the values and which wire to tap 1st. brows.gif
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Don't tap so fast.. Haha.. let me find u the wire is possible.. Wrong tap, ecu kong. Our ecu is continental. Abit fragile. hehe. Actually it not hard to find that wire by using multimeter. Check the continuity. hehe
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i'll let you guys handle it... i'm very afraid to touch the wiring stuff.. scared burn here and burn there...
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 24 2009, 09:58 PM)
i only know the ECU is located somewhere behind the radio. to dismantle it will be like reaching into a very very dark area... shocking.gif
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ecu is beside the clutch pedal. You pull the carpet down and u will able to see it.. Dismantle that ecu need alot of work. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 24 2009, 10:04 PM)
ecu is beside the clutch pedal. You pull the carpet down and u will able to see it.. Dismantle that ecu need alot of work.  sweat.gif
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oh.. i only know the PDT connector is there hm... maybe we can start the wire splicing from there... but like wat u said, there is a module for vtec out there already. is it from pivot? so i think we should be able to modify it to fit our purpose.. hehe... brows.gif
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wow...even i electronic engineering i wont dare to touch the ECU stuff...good on u guys...gambahteh..wait for the good newzzzzz...thn
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 24 2009, 10:07 PM)
oh.. i only know the PDT connector is there hm... maybe we can start the wire splicing from there... but like wat u said, there is a module for vtec out there already. is it from pivot? so i think we should be able to modify it to fit our purpose.. hehe... brows.gif
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can we instead buy the pdt ourselve ka since we know we to 'cucuk'?
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 24 2009, 10:31 PM)
can we instead buy the pdt ourselve ka since we know we to 'cucuk'?
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That thing doesn't comes cheap.
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 24 2009, 10:31 PM)
can we instead buy the pdt ourselve ka since we know we to 'cucuk'?
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i dun mind borrowing the unit which is nearly rm15k in cost... or so i thought... hmm.gif

biggrin.gif joking bro! but these unit dun come cheap. its only for diagnostics and not for changing settings some more! shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 24 2009, 11:05 PM)
i dun mind borrowing the unit which is nearly rm15k in cost... or so i thought... hmm.gif

biggrin.gif joking bro! but these unit dun come cheap. its only for diagnostics and not for changing settings some more!  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 24 2009, 07:54 PM)
Yeah.. throttle -> Ecu ->TB
Suspension for persona/gen 2 is plug and play on a waja. It more thicker.. About the VIM, VIM is short and long length manifold.. So we mod it always use the short length manifold. So the power will increase.
This is the proton edar at pandan jaya right? You stay that area?
Yes.. Persona rear suspension is more thicker than waja.
Around Rm1k to do that.
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im staying melati melawati area..buy my cps from my fren dealer@pandan indah..soo from beginning service my car@pandan jaya...

QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 24 2009, 08:37 PM)
Rm1k inclusive of all items involved and installation? Where would you recommend to do it? I'm also interested on VIM mod? Care to meet for TT?
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yalah come tt...can discuss more...im interested on VIM mods..

QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 24 2009, 09:37 PM)
Oh.. My friend having that device but is for Vtec.  sweat.gif  This is interesting. Cause I thinking to use that vtec device and mod into our cps.
VIM mod it need to drill the VIM there and need some time to do.. RM1k is enough but not include the rear GTi anti roll bar. If you interested, i help u check the price and then change at my working SC.
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1k?...humm sound reasonable ler...like lots of works

QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 24 2009, 10:31 PM)
can we instead buy the pdt ourselve ka since we know we to 'cucuk'?
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weh...me like leave to the expert laugh.gif

eujin..said wan tt?when?

tmoro will visit SC pandan jaya..wan change the window getah@driver window..haih duno wut they call..koyak ady... doh.gif everytime winding down...the getah jatuh abit..singchaii the getah i hv to pay ker or can claim?

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im coming up tomorrow...so is thurs,fri,sat,...so up to u....
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Guys, is it nice to paint an old satria with bronze garnet colour? hmm.gif
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Guys, is it nice to paint an old satria with bronze garnet colour? hmm.gif
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as long as you like it, nobody should deter you. smile.gif

bronze garnet is wat colour ar? is it like golden yellow colour?
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as long as you like it, nobody should deter you. smile.gif

bronze garnet is wat colour ar? is it like golden yellow colour?
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like bronze la laugh.gif tongue.gif waja cps got this colour also, look nice but don't know how will it look on satria.. unsure.gif


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singchaii, the persona only fit for rear section only is it? front portion cannot use? i would have thought suspension need both front and back to be same set then only will be good to perform...
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QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 25 2009, 09:29 AM)
im coming up tomorrow...so is thurs,fri,sat,...so up to u....
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how about friday nite? we can tt all nite and sleep through the whole saturday.... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 25 2009, 10:42 AM)
as long as you like it, nobody should deter you. smile.gif

bronze garnet is wat colour ar? is it like golden yellow colour?
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bronze like ... honda crv also have similar colour but diff tone..


QUOTE(eastwest @ Nov 25 2009, 10:46 AM)
like bronze la laugh.gif  tongue.gif  waja cps got this colour also, look nice but don't know how will it look on satria.. unsure.gif
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paint first... then if don't like repaint again lor.... tongue.gif


Added on November 25, 2009, 10:52 am
QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 25 2009, 10:49 AM)
singchaii, the persona only fit for rear section only is it? front portion cannot use? i would have thought suspension need both front and back to be same set then only will be good to perform...
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i think the front set is good enough.... i'm not sure about others but i think waja rear set tend to oversteer or wobble a bit when cornering...

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i wonder if we can buy 2nd hand parts especially for the springs and use back the waja absorbers/dogbone etc. maybe add in the UR 16mm rear bars. is ours 14mm ori rear ARB?
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The poster is refering/asking to/about what??? MTM
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QUOTE(eastwest @ Nov 25 2009, 12:00 PM)
The poster is refering/asking to/about what??? MTM
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imho he is asking where the beeping sound comes from when you opened the door and the light didn't switch off yet...

he probably either want to shut the beeping sound off or change it to twinkle twinkle little star (or perhaps mary had a little lamb) sound.... tongue.gif


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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 25 2009, 10:50 AM)
how about friday nite? we can tt all nite and sleep through the whole saturday....  biggrin.gif
bronze like ... honda crv also have similar colour but diff tone..
paint first... then if don't like repaint again lor....  tongue.gif


Added on November 25, 2009, 10:52 am

i think the front set is good enough.... i'm not sure about others but i think waja rear set tend to oversteer or wobble a bit when cornering...
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dammmn laugh.gif ...im free..soo who will be the host?

QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 25 2009, 12:09 PM)
imho he is asking where the beeping sound comes from when you opened the door and the light didn't switch off yet...

he probably either want to shut the beeping sound off or change it to twinkle twinkle little star (or perhaps mary had a little lamb) sound....  tongue.gif
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yalah..confusing ler his q...haha laugh.gif
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 25 2009, 01:12 PM)
dammmn laugh.gif ...im free..soo who will be the host?
yalah..confusing ler his q...haha laugh.gif
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this time around, i don't mind the location... but if putrajaya, plenty of road space to test drive and i know one good location to park our car after tt and pop the hood... but then again, you mr chairman have to make the call... cool2.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 24 2009, 10:00 PM)
Don't tap so fast.. Haha.. let me find u the wire is possible.. Wrong tap, ecu kong. Our ecu is continental. Abit fragile. hehe. Actually it not hard to find that wire by using multimeter. Check the continuity. hehe
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Can trace the TB wire color code to ECU pin out, and using multimeter to double confirm. Again, removing the ecu take alot of job especially Gen2.



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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 25 2009, 01:24 PM)
this time around, i don't mind the location... but if putrajaya, plenty of road space to test drive and i know one good location to park our car after tt and pop the hood... but then again, you mr chairman have to make the call...  cool2.gif
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im ok..anywhere can...ehh u do the calling lah VerM... tongue.gif
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Guys, any of you change the brake pad already? how much for waja? how do I know whether it need to be change or not? my car odo is 44k km already.
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QUOTE(eastwest @ Nov 25 2009, 02:07 PM)
Guys, any of you change the brake pad already? how much for waja? how do I know whether it need to be change or not? my car odo is 44k km already.
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actually it depends on the remaining thickness on the pad right now. to me 44k already quite thin...
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mine 62k oledi...but feel time to change..myb during service tis weekend
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 25 2009, 01:57 PM)
im ok..anywhere  can...ehh u do the calling lah VerM... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 25 2009, 02:51 PM)
y don't we let eujin or thien wu or anyone else for that matter decide...
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 24 2009, 10:07 PM)
oh.. i only know the PDT connector is there hm... maybe we can start the wire splicing from there... but like wat u said, there is a module for vtec out there already. is it from pivot? so i think we should be able to modify it to fit our purpose.. hehe... brows.gif
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I dun think is from pivot. Hehe...

QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 24 2009, 10:31 PM)
can we instead buy the pdt ourselve ka since we know we to 'cucuk'?
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PDT is so costly. And you can't get the update software for it.

QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 24 2009, 11:03 PM)
singchaii skip my question...
nvm then.
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 25 2009, 10:49 AM)
singchaii, the persona only fit for rear section only is it? front portion cannot use? i would have thought suspension need both front and back to be same set then only will be good to perform...
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Front already good.. Hehe...

QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 25 2009, 01:39 PM)
Can trace the TB wire color code to ECU pin out, and using multimeter to double confirm. Again, removing the ecu take alot of job especially Gen2.
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But you need to see properly. Some colour code is the same. Only the marking is different. if use multimeter, u need extra careful. You might end up blowing out ur air bag.
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 23 2009, 10:32 PM)



This is what I doing now. throttle 100% = TPS 100%. If i can get this setting, the car is really fun to drive. My supervisor perdana v6, persona iafm all get this setting. But it used alot of time.
You can. Behind suspension of persona all swap into your waja. You can see the different. My waja cps rear all using persona rear suspension like rear arm, dog bone, link. Persona rear suspension all so solid and thick.. Then, find satria GTi rear stabilizer bar and put into waja. You really can feel the handling improve greatly.
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Hehe...sori noob question....so my gen2 cps need to change with persona rear suspension...or just add satria GTi rear stabilizer bar... hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(terminatorkun @ Nov 25 2009, 07:24 PM)
Hehe...sori noob question....so my gen2 cps need to change with persona rear suspension...or just add satria GTi rear stabilizer bar... hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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no need.. as it same as persona..
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Just now nothing better to do go Proton Parts Centre get this things : tongue.gif
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and i notice this two infos:
Gear Ratio :
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ABS Warning Lamp :
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Guess that you guys never even read owner's manual before right? laugh.gif
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eh tt at the kl-putrajaya that place is spacious wei! verm, done your project? smile.gif
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 25 2009, 07:38 PM)
Just now nothing better to do go Proton Parts Centre get this things :  tongue.gif
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and i notice this two infos:
Gear Ratio :
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ABS Warning Lamp :
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Guess that you guys never even read owner's manual before right?   laugh.gif
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oh dang... my ABS gonna KO already?! scary thought!!


Added on November 25, 2009, 7:45 pmmy temp light just went dark i think light bulb blown cry.gif ...

this friday morning i will start my journey to penang. hehe.. my cousin wedding on sunday night. i will be there helping him out to prepare..

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QUOTE(coz4u @ Nov 25 2009, 07:42 PM)
eh tt at the kl-putrajaya that place is spacious wei! verm, done your project? smile.gif
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welcome to putrajaya, land of mystics and wonders hahahahaha....

what project? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 25 2009, 07:31 PM)
no need.. as it same as persona..
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 25 2009, 02:51 PM)
y don't we let eujin or thien wu or anyone else for that matter decide...
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balik kampung this weekend.. can't join u guys...
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 25 2009, 02:51 PM)
y don't we let eujin or thien wu or anyone else for that matter decide...
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i got family dinner on friday.so if erly thn after dinner i join u guys if not thn next time

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 22 2009, 10:27 AM)
any idea how much does it cost?
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Hahaha..didn't bother to go any deeper~ tongue.gif

QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 11:05 AM)
I need it to powered yhe timer circuit which means that it must have power when the keys are pulled out.
Honda CVT is about 20k... So.. hmm.gif  laugh.gif
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Well, if they can make a 1 lakh car, the gb shouldn't cost as much as a Honda's~ whistling.gif

Cool mod btw on the Persona - Waja swap..but I believe that a Gen2 - Waja swap would be better as the setup in Gen2 is more firm compared to Persona.. hmm.gif

So, where and when's the TT? Come somewhere near Puchong la~ nod.gif
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QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 25 2009, 10:28 PM)
i got family dinner on friday.so if erly thn after dinner i join u guys if not thn next time
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saturday.....
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 25 2009, 07:38 PM)
Just now nothing better to do go Proton Parts Centre get this things
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and i notice this two infos:
Gear Ratio :
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ABS Warning Lamp :
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Guess that you guys never even read owner's manual before right? 
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dammn lazy to read...just read few pages b4 laugh.gif

QUOTE(coz4u @ Nov 25 2009, 07:42 PM)
eh tt at the kl-putrajaya that place is spacious wei! verm, done your project?
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haha base from the experience?haha...

QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 25 2009, 08:04 PM)
welcome to putrajaya, land of mystics and wonders hahahahaha....

what project?  whistling.gif
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dammn project senyap2....saturday wut time?u do the call lah..tmoro im bzzzzzz

QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 25 2009, 08:38 PM)
balik kampung this weekend.. can't join u guys...
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safe journey...wehh banjir ahh thienwu... about to check ur rim during tt laugh.gif nvm nextime laugh.gif

QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 25 2009, 10:28 PM)
i got family dinner on friday.so if erly thn after dinner i join u guys if not thn next time
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VerM set lerr...
QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Nov 26 2009, 01:29 AM)
Hahaha..didn't bother to go any deeper~
Well, if they can make a 1 lakh car, the gb shouldn't cost as much as a Honda's~

Cool mod btw on the Persona - Waja swap..but I believe that a Gen2 - Waja swap would be better as the setup in Gen2 is more firm compared to Persona..  hmm.gif

So, where and when's the TT? Come somewhere near Puchong la~  nod.gif
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puchong quite near tu putrajaya wut..me from melawati doh.gif

QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 26 2009, 06:09 AM)
saturday.....
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wut time...
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10 pm....
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 26 2009, 09:44 AM)
safe journey...wehh banjir ahh thienwu... about to check ur rim during tt laugh.gif nvm nextime laugh.gif
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my rim biasa saja lor.. no need to check too much.. biggrin.gif
gonna gerak any time but heard karak hiway jam already... dang... sweat.gif sad.gif
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QUOTE(ThienWu @ Nov 26 2009, 04:18 PM)
my rim biasa saja lor.. no need to check too much..  biggrin.gif 
gonna gerak any time but heard karak hiway jam already... dang... sweat.gif  sad.gif
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yeap...my father just now call...2.30@gombak now @bentong doh.gif ..normall journey time onli 40 minutes
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I won the proton contest. Get free handphone. Haha....
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congrats singchaii..


Added on November 26, 2009, 9:27 pmbtw, i heard from the BP service centre that in MArch there will be an organized track day for proton cars in pasir gudang... anyone heard of it yet? singchaii?

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anyone did the body checking & anti rust thingy ?

i read the book say we must check at 1k n 10k mileage , or it will void hmm.gif
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 26 2009, 04:28 PM)
yeap...my father just now call...2.30@gombak now @bentong  doh.gif ..normall journey time onli 40 minutes
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Yup yesterday karak highway gila jem
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 25 2009, 07:38 PM)
Just now nothing better to do go Proton Parts Centre get this things :  tongue.gif
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and i notice this two infos:
Gear Ratio :
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ABS Warning Lamp :
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Guess that you guys never even read owner's manual before right?  laugh.gif
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That user manual is Gen 2 CPS one? Can buy one kah? How much? From Proton Parts Center @ Glenmarie? Got PDF version ka? laugh.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 26 2009, 06:09 PM)
I won the proton contest. Get free handphone. Haha....
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Staff oso can participate? tongue.gif Can win sumore... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Nov 27 2009, 03:54 PM)
That user manual is Gen 2 CPS one? Can buy one kah? How much? From Proton Parts Center @ Glenmarie? Got PDF version ka?  laugh.gif
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Yes, that Owner's Manual is for Gen2 CPS.

RM16+ @ Proton Parts Centre Sdn Bhd

if got PDF format i won't buy it lor tongue.gif

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QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Nov 27 2009, 03:54 PM)
That user manual is Gen 2 CPS one? Can buy one kah? How much? From Proton Parts Center @ Glenmarie? Got PDF version ka?  laugh.gif
Staff oso can participate?  tongue.gif Can win sumore...  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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I won the proton contest. Get free handphone. Haha....
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 27 2009, 07:00 AM)
40 minutes? i thought 20 minutes only ....  tongue.gif
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normal...80km/h.... sweat.gif not from tol gombak to bentong tol...gombak>karak normal time 40minutes...

ehh last nite no tt? laugh.gif
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So many cps users here, i wonder you all know cps work? hehe..
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i dont hear 'tick' sound at all after 3.8k rpm ... tried many times

only 2.8k rpm @ 3rd gear got sudden power force
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Nov 28 2009, 11:25 AM)
i dont hear 'tick' sound at all after 3.8k rpm ... tried many times

only 2.8k rpm @ 3rd gear got sudden power force
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if there is no tick sound, then you will feel a slightly jerking. smile.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 28 2009, 11:03 AM)
So many cps users here, i wonder you all know cps work? hehe..
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not in detail... laugh.gif u re mech. ofcos know much

QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Nov 28 2009, 11:25 AM)
i dont hear 'tick' sound at all after 3.8k rpm ... tried many times

only 2.8k rpm @ 3rd gear got sudden power force
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me notice bout it since day 1...untill now love it thumbup.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 28 2009, 09:46 AM)
ehh last nite no tt? laugh.gif
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Not tonight meh? rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 28 2009, 11:03 AM)
So many cps users here, i wonder you all know cps work? hehe..
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care to share? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Nov 28 2009, 11:25 AM)
i dont hear 'tick' sound at all after 3.8k rpm ... tried many times

only 2.8k rpm @ 3rd gear got sudden power force
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maybe Waja CPS can feel it, while Gen2 CPS can't feel it?
i can't hear any 'tick' sound at all... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 28 2009, 11:03 AM)
So many cps users here, i wonder you all know cps work? hehe..
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Just now nothing better to do go Proton Parts Centre get this things :  tongue.gif
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Mine is the old campro waja owners manual, not the cps ver.  laugh.gif
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Mine is the old campro waja owners manual, not the cps ver.  laugh.gif
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Me too. This shouldn't happened to a so called 'established' car maker. Proton Boleh! Perhaps they have tooooo many stock copy in hand... sweat.gif
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Mine is the 1st batch, maybe they didn't have time to print it yet. laugh.gif
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so tonite who's in?
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Is there anyone has the problem with the gen2cps muffler or exhaust??
I've drove my gen2cps up to Genting recently and the results, my exhaust was too hot and the heat were so strong until the anti-rust inside my bonet get melt or 'cair'...Can i know wat is the main problem??
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 28 2009, 05:32 PM)
so tonite who's in?
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 28 2009, 07:30 PM)
Mine is the old campro waja owners manual, not the cps ver.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(klia @ Nov 29 2009, 09:33 AM)
Me too. This shouldn't happened to a so called 'established' car maker. Proton Boleh! Perhaps they have tooooo many stock copy in hand... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 29 2009, 11:06 AM)
mine is cps + non cps...
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you guys really no bother the owner's manual tongue.gif

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To all gen2cps owner,

Is there anyone has the problem with the gen2cps muffler or exhaust??
I've drove my gen2cps up to Genting recently and the results, my exhaust was too hot and the heat were so strong until the anti-rust inside my bonet get melt or 'cair'...Can i know wat is the main problem??
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how old is your car?
which part you mean got melted oh? hmm.gif
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To all gen2cps owner,

Is there anyone has the problem with the gen2cps muffler or exhaust??
I've drove my gen2cps up to Genting recently and the results, my exhaust was too hot and the heat were so strong until the anti-rust inside my bonet get melt or 'cair'...Can i know wat is the main problem??
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Any pics? hmm.gif
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I guess this is the most safe way to record top speed tongue.gif

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tested on friday morning 0200AM at MEX Highway with my fren. biggrin.gif

don't bother other figures except the Max Speed laugh.gif

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I guess this is the most safe way to record top speed  tongue.gif

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tested on friday morning 0200AM at MEX Highway with my fren.  biggrin.gif

don't bother other figures except the Max Speed  laugh.gif
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[quote=sphiroth,Nov 29 2009, 12:04 PM]Mine is the 1st batch, maybe they didn't have time to print it yet. laugh.gif
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I think all the 2008 batches have an old version of manual. They should change their PRINTER tongue.gif


Added on November 30, 2009, 12:39 amyou guys really no bother the owner's manual tongue.gif
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I did read the whole book of manual but somehow feel that information is incomplete la coz CPS wording not printed in the manual cover smile.gif

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QUOTE(gen2cps @ Nov 29 2009, 09:33 PM)
To all gen2cps owner,

Is there anyone has the problem with the gen2cps muffler or exhaust??
I've drove my gen2cps up to Genting recently and the results, my exhaust was too hot and the heat were so strong until the anti-rust inside my bonet get melt or 'cair'...Can i know wat is the main problem??
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Anti-rust inside the bonnet? me gen2cps too but don't know there;s anti rust inside the bonnet.
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QUOTE(gen2cps @ Nov 29 2009, 09:33 PM)
To all gen2cps owner,

Is there anyone has the problem with the gen2cps muffler or exhaust??
I've drove my gen2cps up to Genting recently and the results, my exhaust was too hot and the heat were so strong until the anti-rust inside my bonet get melt or 'cair'...Can i know wat is the main problem??
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Hi.. Certain gen2 cps got that prob... muffler too hot, sometime polystyrene that hold tire also melt... Some said, need to change muffler... Me didn't have that prob...
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juz done 7 hrs of driving + 2 hrs rest from penang to BP... attend cousin wedding. tired..
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I've drove 10 hours on wednesday, bp-muar-segamat-muadzam-gambang-temerloh-jabor-jerangau-KT-KB. brows.gif
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Now at kb ka..?
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 1 2009, 11:22 AM)
At bp already. Go back to KL on saturday, 7 hours drive kb-gua musang-tanah rata-simpang pulai-KL. Sadly, its raining heavily after tanah rata, no chance to play with the corners. laugh.gif
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Oooo.. why didn't pm me... tongue.gif So boring staying at hospital for one week... Didn't celebrate raya korban also...
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i'm planning to install lcp smile.gif
i'm kinda tired wif the DBW lag yawn.gif
isit true lcp can reduce the top end power?you lost top speed
which one better zerone, redline, jasma (cant afford mytheology)tongue.gif
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i'm planning to install lcp smile.gif
i'm kinda tired wif the DBW lag yawn.gif
isit true lcp can reduce the top end power?you lost top speed
which one better zerone, redline, jasma (cant afford mytheology)tongue.gif
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LCP doesn't decrease top speed but the engine braking will be 'harder' since the momentum stored in LCP is less than stock and you need to control the throttle more when climbing uphill. But in return, you can build speed faster.

Not sure about brand, but last time I used Aerospeed brand.
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LCP doesn't decrease top speed but the engine braking will be 'harder' since the momentum stored in LCP is less than stock and you need to control the throttle more when climbing uphill. But in return, you can build speed faster.

Not sure about brand, but last time I used Aerospeed brand.
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Hmmm hmm.gif ic
actually my car mileage soon reach 40k
so i'm planning to build my car extensively like:
1. full exhaust system (wai heng) once again the argument bout the piping size and type of extractor (4-1 or 4-2-1) rclxub.gif
2. k&n drop in filter (already order)
3. Denso iridium power (oledi buy)
4. LCP (not sure it will necessary with above mod) hmm.gif
5. Bendix Metal King brake pads + disc skimming
6. Upgrade the engine oil from synthium 800 15w50 to castrol magnetec 10w40
i oledi go to wai heng sunway they quote rm800-900 for full exhaust system..isit ok guys with my mod? hmm.gif

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Hmmm hmm.gif ic
actually my car mileage soon reach 40k
so i'm planning to build my car extensively like:
1. full exhaust system (wai heng) once again the argument bout the piping size and type of extractor (4-1 or 4-2-1) rclxub.gif
2. k&n drop in filter (already order)
3. Denso iridium power (oledi buy)
4. LCP (not sure it will necessary with above mod) hmm.gif
5. Bendix Metal King brake pads + disc skimming
6. Upgrade the engine oil from synthium 800 15w50 to castrol magnetec 10w40
i oledi go to wai heng sunway they quote rm800-900 for full exhaust system..isit ok guys with my mod? hmm.gif
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Just do it. brows.gif

My next oil change will be Castrol Edge 5w40 (RM160+gift) and got to prepare extra budget for 60k km major service. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 1 2009, 05:12 PM)
Just do it. brows.gif

My next oil change will be Castrol Edge 5w40 (RM160+gift) and got to prepare extra budget for 60k km major service. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Dec 1 2009, 04:20 PM)
i'm planning to install lcp smile.gif
i'm kinda tired wif the DBW lag yawn.gif
isit true lcp can reduce the top end power?you lost top speed
which one better zerone, redline, jasma (cant afford mytheology)tongue.gif
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QUOTE(klia @ Nov 30 2009, 12:34 AM)
I did read the whole book of manual but somehow feel that information is incomplete la coz CPS wording not printed in the manual cover  smile.gif
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incomplete meh?
at least i can find more info about the LCD Display (Odometer/Trimeter) wink.gif

QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Dec 1 2009, 05:01 PM)
Hmmm hmm.gif ic
actually my car mileage soon reach 40k
so i'm planning to build my car extensively like:
1. full exhaust system (wai heng) once again the argument bout the piping size and type of extractor (4-1 or 4-2-1) rclxub.gif
2. k&n drop in filter (already order)
3. Denso iridium power (oledi buy)
4. LCP (not sure it will necessary with above mod) hmm.gif
5. Bendix Metal King brake pads + disc skimming
6. Upgrade the engine oil from synthium 800 15w50 to castrol magnetec 10w40
i oledi go to wai heng sunway they quote rm800-900 for full exhaust system..isit ok guys with my mod? hmm.gif
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hmm... top up another few hundreds can get hotbits full set exhaust already... blush.gif

QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 1 2009, 05:12 PM)
My next oil change will be Castrol Edge 5w40 (RM160+gift) and got to prepare extra budget for 60k km major service. sweat.gif
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In other forum,
they suggest 10W-30 engine oil for CPS Engine ... blink.gif
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 1 2009, 07:21 PM)
incomplete meh?
at least i can find more info about the LCD Display (Odometer/Trimeter)  wink.gif
hmm... top up another few hundreds can get hotbits full set exhaust already...  blush.gif
In other forum,
they suggest 10W-30 engine oil for CPS Engine ...  blink.gif
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For cps engine, it requirement for 10w-30 or 10w-40. If you use mineral, the hydraulic tappet adjustment will jam. If use fully, the engine will have loud tappet sound and for few years, you will see engine oil leaking at oil seal.
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 1 2009, 08:00 PM)
For cps engine, it requirement for 10w-30 or 10w-40. If you use mineral, the hydraulic tappet adjustment will jam. If use fully, the engine will have loud tappet sound and for few years, you will see engine oil leaking at oil seal.
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then the suitable engine oil for CPS Engine would be 10W-30 or 10W-40 Semi Syn?? laugh.gif

i was tempting to try 5W-30 or 10W-30 Fully Syn engine oil for my next service... sweat.gif

some CPS users claimed that using 10W-30 engine oil will make the engine sound more rough... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 1 2009, 08:18 PM)
blink.gif
then the suitable engine oil for CPS Engine would be 10W-30 or 10W-40 Semi Syn??  laugh.gif

i was tempting to try 5W-30 or 10W-30 Fully Syn engine oil for my next service...  sweat.gif

some CPS users claimed that using 10W-30 engine oil will make the engine sound more rough...  hmm.gif
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mean 10w-40 or 10w-30 still can... You try 10-w40. You can feel the different.
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 1 2009, 08:00 PM)
For cps engine, it requirement for 10w-30 or 10w-40. If you use mineral, the hydraulic tappet adjustment will jam. If use fully, the engine will have loud tappet sound and for few years, you will see engine oil leaking at oil seal.
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And ppl say using full syn can go 10,000KM before next service..looks like engine can't even last 100,000KM~ tongue.gif
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i cancel buying Castrol magnatec 10w40 when i see Mobil S 10w40 wif 'Very High Performance' tagged hehe brows.gif
they sell it Rm99 at tesco thumbup.gif ..guys isit ok wif Mobil S?
btw they sell castrol magnetec rm105..
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pedang laut: go for it but i agree with ahpaul, can get the hotbits full set with some topup. i prefer to get the header and leave the rest untouched.

singchai: i used 5w-30 bardhal fully synthetic and it does sounds rougher than the previous 5w-40 shell fully syn i used. currently using semi syn 10w-40 from shell green bottle. engine more quieter. however, lower viscocity number give u better mileage due to lesser restriction (maybe less protection?)

jvipers: i wouldn't dare to stretch that long. max also 7500kms at most and need to change filter also.. hehe..



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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Dec 2 2009, 09:16 AM)
pedang laut: go for it but i agree with ahpaul, can get the hotbits full set with some topup. i prefer to get the header and leave the rest untouched.

singchai: i used 5w-30 bardhal fully synthetic and it does sounds rougher than the previous 5w-40 shell fully syn i used. currently using semi syn 10w-40 from shell green bottle. engine more quieter. however, lower viscocity  number give u better mileage due to lesser restriction (maybe less protection?)

jvipers: i wouldn't dare to stretch that long. max also 7500kms at most and need to change filter also.. hehe..
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But if you get hotbit, you cannot leave the rest untouch since the piping size is different.

I'm using Mobil 1 10w50 right now and its quieter than my previous Helix Ultra 5w40, but can feel slightly heavier when accelerating.
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Dec 2 2009, 09:16 AM)
pedang laut: go for it but i agree with ahpaul, can get the hotbits full set with some topup. i prefer to get the header and leave the rest untouched.

singchai: i used 5w-30 bardhal fully synthetic and it does sounds rougher than the previous 5w-40 shell fully syn i used. currently using semi syn 10w-40 from shell green bottle. engine more quieter. however, lower viscocity  number give u better mileage due to lesser restriction (maybe less protection?)

jvipers: i wouldn't dare to stretch that long. max also 7500kms at most and need to change filter also.. hehe..
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actually i dont know the hotbits price tongue.gif how much rr?i think 1.5k for full system rite
that almost 2x my budget oledi sad.gif
one more 1.75" piping just to small for future mod whistling.gif whistling.gif
i think i will using same piping size 2" wif stock nod.gif


Added on December 2, 2009, 10:32 am
QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 2 2009, 09:23 AM)
But if you get hotbit, you cannot leave the rest untouch since the piping size is different.

I'm using Mobil 1 10w50 right now and its quieter than my previous Helix Ultra 5w40, but can feel slightly heavier when accelerating.
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i think its due to 50 figure give the heavy feel rite.. hmm.gif

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Added on December 2, 2009, 10:32 am
i think its due to 50 figure give the heavy feel rite.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Dec 1 2009, 04:20 PM)
i'm planning to install lcp smile.gif
i'm kinda tired wif the DBW lag yawn.gif
isit true lcp can reduce the top end power?you lost top speed
which one better zerone, redline, jasma (cant afford mytheology)tongue.gif
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any LCP brand will do. The best is to keep the same size like Mythelogy. Else underdrive (smaller) by 1/2cm & 1 cm still bareable.


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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 2 2009, 09:23 AM)
But if you get hotbit, you cannot leave the rest untouch since the piping size is different.

I'm using Mobil 1 10w50 right now and its quieter than my previous Helix Ultra 5w40, but can feel slightly heavier when accelerating.
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how about 10w40 motul? anyone? is it better than other brand?
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 1 2009, 09:13 PM)
mean 10w-40 or 10w-30 still can... You try 10-w40. You can feel the different.
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10-W40??? blink.gif

definetely i will try xW-30 Engine Oil for my next service...

want to know how 'light' is the engine tongue.gif

QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Dec 2 2009, 01:34 AM)
And ppl say using full syn can go 10,000KM before next service..looks like engine can't even last 100,000KM~  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Dec 2 2009, 09:16 AM)
pedang laut: go for it but i agree with ahpaul, can get the hotbits full set with some topup. i prefer to get the header and leave the rest untouched.

singchai: i used 5w-30 bardhal fully synthetic and it does sounds rougher than the previous 5w-40 shell fully syn i used. currently using semi syn 10w-40 from shell green bottle. engine more quieter. however, lower viscocity  number give u better mileage due to lesser restriction (maybe less protection?)

jvipers: i wouldn't dare to stretch that long. max also 7500kms at most and need to change filter also.. hehe..
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agreed with jctasoga,
i guess the best time for fully syn engine oil change is 7000km right?

QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Dec 2 2009, 08:40 AM)
i cancel buying Castrol magnatec 10w40 when i see Mobil S 10w40 wif 'Very High Performance' tagged
they sell it Rm99 at tesco thumbup.gif ..guys isit ok wif Mobil S?
btw they sell castrol magnetec rm105..
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Castrol Magnetec and Mobil S engine oil you saw both also fully syn engine oil?
that's cheap... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Dec 2 2009, 10:29 AM)
actually i dont know the hotbits price how much rr?i think 1.5k for full system rite
that almost 2x my budget oledi sad.gif
one more 1.75" piping just to small for future mod
i think i will using same piping size 2" wif stock


Added on December 2, 2009, 10:32 am
i think its due to 50 figure give the heavy feel rite..
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last time saw at Eneos 1U, full set Hotbits exhaust is RM13xx,
one of our forumer changed full set Hotbits exhaust @ HQ only RM11xx something if i'm not mistaken... wink.gif

Hear that Everco brand Extractor also not bad,
RM3xx only for 2" Extractor.

QUOTE(Decyfer @ Dec 2 2009, 12:08 PM)
how about 10w40 motul? anyone? is it better than other brand?
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But if you get hotbit, you cannot leave the rest untouch since the piping size is different.

I'm using Mobil 1 10w50 right now and its quieter than my previous Helix Ultra 5w40, but can feel slightly heavier when accelerating.
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dear waja cps user, i would like to ask about the gated gear shifters on your cps
i'm planning to change my old waja gear shifters to those like waja cps type, but i heard there's some complaint about the shifters is a bit stiff, does it get loose over time? thanks in advance
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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Dec 2 2009, 02:27 PM)
dear waja cps user, i would like to ask about the gated gear shifters on your cps
i'm planning to change my old waja gear shifters to those like waja cps type, but i heard there's some complaint about the shifters is a bit stiff, does it get loose over time? thanks in advance
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loose over time? mine is about 1 and half years old with mileage reaching 60k. the stick still feel stiff...
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QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 2 2009, 02:34 PM)
loose over time? mine is about 1 and half years old with mileage reaching 60k. the stick still feel stiff...
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is it really a problem? i mean is it annoying?
i would love to change mine as my current one are quite bad in shape already although its still functioning well
plus i love the 'luxury' look of the gated shifters
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anyone always bring own item during service ?? or change certain item earlier than the schedule ?/

any effect n what bout your warranty ?

i go to sec13 proton, n they dun allow me change. Even i wan buy coolant from them also cannot. must wait 20k

anyway , i juz did my 15k service @ subang proton. juz chg motul 10w40, redline gearoil 2 1/2 bottle, denso iridium n coolant biggrin.gif

It seem like few proton sc also said the aircond airvent sound cannot solve. issit true ?
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manage to test my car during hill climbing along the way back to kl...max rev at 5k rpm before the gear self-shifting biggrin.gif My wife said my car sounds like a turbo car brows.gif

QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Dec 2 2009, 02:51 PM)
is it really a problem? i mean is it annoying?
i would love to change mine as my current one are quite bad in shape already although its still functioning well
plus i love the 'luxury' look of the gated shifters
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I don't think it's a problem. In early stage, the stick are a bit difficult to move, now quite easy to move nod.gif only moving the stick from D to 3rd and below abit stiff because I seldom use it. wink.gif

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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Dec 2 2009, 02:51 PM)
is it really a problem? i mean is it annoying?
i would love to change mine as my current one are quite bad in shape already although its still functioning well
plus i love the 'luxury' look of the gated shifters
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it doesn't bother me at all.... well let me put it this way, its auto transmission and most of the time we put in D mode... therefore the stiffness of the stick won't matter at all...

on the safe side though, having stiff stick would prevent accidental move by your kids since it has no shift lock for R and P.

Hope this information helps.
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Dec 2 2009, 02:57 PM)
anyone always bring own item during service ?? or change certain item earlier than the schedule ?/

any effect n what bout your warranty ?

i go to sec13 proton, n they dun allow me change. Even i wan buy coolant from them also cannot. must wait 20k

anyway , i juz did my 15k service @ subang proton. juz chg motul 10w40, redline gearoil 2 1/2 bottle, denso iridium n coolant biggrin.gif

It seem like few proton sc also said the aircond airvent sound cannot solve. issit true ?
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you can get the Proton Coolant @ Proton Parts Centre Sdn Bhd

Seems like both of us have same tastes (Highlighted in Red) brows.gif

Curious to know,
i thought Gear Oil put 2bottles is enough?
need another half bottle? blink.gif
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Ya i know. I requested I wan buy from them they dun let. They said must wait 20k service only change. make me so geram ..
I called n spoken to another guy earlier, he said can ..

Then i go to subang sc, n get it change there. I not sure my warranty still there or not sad.gif Cz their schedule different ..
feel like give up warranty d unsure.gif

mine 1 bottle(quart) is 9XXml ... they told me cps need 2.5l
so i got 3 bottle, they put all n got remaining 1/4 ...
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QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 2 2009, 03:07 PM)
it doesn't bother me at all.... well let me put it this way, its auto transmission and most of the time we put in D mode... therefore the stiffness of the stick won't matter at all...

on the safe side though, having stiff stick would prevent accidental move by your kids since it has no shift lock for R and P.

Hope this information helps.
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i just ask my foreman and they said it is not possible to have the cps gated shift gear installed on my 4g18, is it true? because i remember somebody installed on their 4g18 mitsu before
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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Dec 2 2009, 03:33 PM)
i just ask my foreman and they said it is not possible to have the cps gated shift gear installed on my 4g18, is it true? because i remember somebody installed on their 4g18 mitsu before
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it has been done.... try searching in waja related clubs forum...
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i also going to try motul gear oil soon. my gears are getting stiffer by the day.. hehe.. must be over revving it... hahaha.. biggrin.gif

for the engine oil, i will stick to 10w-30 for time being.. still finding which one most suitable..
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 2 2009, 03:17 PM)
you can get the Proton Coolant @ Proton Parts Centre Sdn Bhd

Seems like both of us have same tastes (Highlighted in Red)  brows.gif

Curious to know,
i thought Gear Oil put 2bottles is enough?
need another half bottle?  blink.gif
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you can change the coolant at any workshop near you house if you don't want to wait till 20k service...

go and get toyota long life cooland instead... superb quality...


Added on December 2, 2009, 5:03 pm
QUOTE(jctasoga @ Dec 2 2009, 04:49 PM)
i also going to try motul gear oil soon. my gears are getting stiffer by the day.. hehe.. must be over revving it... hahaha.. biggrin.gif

for the engine oil, i will stick to 10w-30 for time being.. still finding which one most suitable..
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most suitable is subjected to how deep the pocket is.... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Dec 2 2009, 03:21 PM)
Ya i know. I requested I wan buy from them they dun let. They said must wait 20k service only change. make me so geram ..
I called n spoken to another guy earlier, he said can ..

Then i go to subang sc, n get it change there. I not sure my warranty still there or not sad.gif Cz their schedule different ..
feel like give up warranty d unsure.gif

mine 1 bottle(quart) is 9XXml ... they told me cps need 2.5l
so i got 3 bottle, they put all n got remaining 1/4 ...
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need 2.5L huh?
guess that i need buy another bottle liao ... sweat.gif

QUOTE(jctasoga @ Dec 2 2009, 04:49 PM)
i also going to try motul gear oil soon. my gears are getting stiffer by the day.. hehe.. must be over revving it... hahaha.. biggrin.gif

for the engine oil, i will stick to 10w-30 for time being.. still finding which one most suitable..
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Motul Engine Oil or Redline Gear Oil ah? tongue.gif

QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 2 2009, 05:00 PM)
you can change the coolant at any workshop near you house if you don't want to wait till 20k service...

go and get toyota long life cooland instead... superb quality...


Added on December 2, 2009, 5:03 pm

most suitable is subjected to how deep the pocket is....  whistling.gif
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Coolant need to replace on 20k Service?
i thought 40k service? blink.gif
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QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 2 2009, 04:46 PM)
it has been done.... try searching in waja related clubs forum...
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okay thanks, i just called another seller, he said can be done, thanks VerM rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Dec 2 2009, 01:34 AM)
And ppl say using full syn can go 10,000KM before next service..looks like engine can't even last 100,000KM~  tongue.gif
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Actually full syn go each 5k km to change oil filter and add treatment.

QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Dec 2 2009, 08:40 AM)
i cancel buying Castrol magnatec 10w40 when i see Mobil S 10w40 wif 'Very High Performance' tagged hehe brows.gif
they sell it Rm99 at tesco thumbup.gif ..guys isit ok wif Mobil S?
btw they sell castrol magnetec rm105..
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Dec 2 2009, 09:16 AM)
pedang laut: go for it but i agree with ahpaul, can get the hotbits full set with some topup. i prefer to get the header and leave the rest untouched.

singchai: i used 5w-30 bardhal fully synthetic and it does sounds rougher than the previous 5w-40 shell fully syn i used. currently using semi syn 10w-40 from shell green bottle. engine more quieter. however, lower viscocity  number give u better mileage due to lesser restriction (maybe less protection?)

jvipers: i wouldn't dare to stretch that long. max also 7500kms at most and need to change filter also.. hehe..
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 2 2009, 03:17 PM)
you can get the Proton Coolant @ Proton Parts Centre Sdn Bhd

Seems like both of us have same tastes (Highlighted in Red)  brows.gif

Curious to know,
i thought Gear Oil put 2bottles is enough?
need another half bottle?  blink.gif
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Gearoil for cps manual gb is 2.4 litre.


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do we need to wait till 20k service then can change to our own engine oil brand? i'm going for 10k service(3rd service) soon. should i just chnge the brand or stick with the SC recommended engine oil? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(eastwest @ Dec 2 2009, 03:06 PM)
I'm back from holiday..16 hours travel (13 hours drive + 3hours stop) from tanah merah - KB - Tumpat - KB - Gua Musang - KL. tiresome drive from machang to kuala krai...jam all the way sweat.gif  doh.gif  yawn.gif
Hem.. Didn't know u also at kb during raya.. Me accompany my wife at hospital usm for 2 week. Raya at hospital lo. If not can have tt with u.. Huhu..
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QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Dec 2 2009, 08:40 AM)
i cancel buying Castrol magnatec 10w40 when i see Mobil S 10w40 wif 'Very High Performance' tagged hehe brows.gif
they sell it Rm99 at tesco thumbup.gif ..guys isit ok wif Mobil S?
btw they sell castrol magnetec rm105..
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after doing some research,
i found out both engine oil should be same quality.
both engine oils Meets API SM/CF and ACEA A3/B3.

in fact, you can get both engine oil in spareparts shop <RM90 blush.gif

Mobil S Plus 10w-40 Semi Synthetic with Free Gift

Castrol Magnatec 10W-40 with Gift

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 2 2009, 06:36 PM)
Gearoil for cps manual gb is 2.4 litre.
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Noted with thanks,
Owner's Manual written need 2.2L.
going to purchase another bottle of Redline Gear Oil. biggrin.gif
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em.. got my Gen2 CPS just now
pls add me to the member list.. thankz...

WTG5xxx - nanbu black MT, i remember i order T.Black (old stock?)

after i home, then only i realize that my back side emblem all missing liao...
no CPS 1.6 and Gen2...how come?

does anybody here facing the same issue here?


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QUOTE(attention @ Dec 2 2009, 08:24 PM)
em.. got my Gen2 CPS just now
pls add me to the member list.. thankz...

WTG5xxx - nanbu black MT, i remember i order T.Black (old stock?)

after i home, then only i realize that my back side emblem all missing liao...
no CPS 1.6 and Gen2...how come?

does anybody here facing the same issue here?
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too excited didn't check properly? laugh.gif

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omg... it's my fault

tomorrow call back the SA see whether he can get me one set...
otherwise... no emblem oso looks nice...

sigh...
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QUOTE(attention @ Dec 2 2009, 08:24 PM)
em.. got my Gen2 CPS just now
pls add me to the member list.. thankz...

WTG5xxx - nanbu black MT, i remember i order T.Black (old stock?)

after i home, then only i realize that my back side emblem all missing liao...
no CPS 1.6 and Gen2...how come?

does anybody here facing the same issue here?
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CPS 1.6 is the MUST on cps car. haha.. Faster go get yours back.

QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 2 2009, 08:42 PM)
too excited didn't check properly?  laugh.gif

user posted image

can get it : HERE
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Proton Parts Centre Sdn Bhd
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haha... u always promote ppc. Ada komisen ka? =P

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 2 2009, 05:48 PM)
need 2.5L huh?
guess that i need buy another bottle liao ...  sweat.gif
Motul Engine Oil or Redline Gear Oil ah?  tongue.gif
Coolant need to replace on 20k Service?
i thought 40k service?  blink.gif
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mine changed every 10k (or simply everytime service...lol) simply because i travel about 200-300km per day (during busy days)...

to put it bluntly, travelling a lot will drain the coolant effeciency... that is why coolant changed color...

QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Dec 2 2009, 06:21 PM)
okay thanks, i just called another seller, he said can be done, thanks VerM rclxms.gif
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Glad to be of help... biggrin.gif

p/s: post pre and after change photos...

QUOTE(Decyfer @ Dec 2 2009, 06:44 PM)
do we need to wait till 20k service then can change to our own engine oil brand? i'm going for 10k service(3rd service) soon. should i just chnge the brand or stick with the SC recommended engine oil?  hmm.gif
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some sc allows bringing your own parts... check with your sc whether you can bring in your preffered stuff...
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QUOTE(attention @ Dec 2 2009, 08:55 PM)
omg... it's my fault

tomorrow call back the SA see whether he can get me one set...
otherwise... no emblem oso looks nice...

sigh...
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must ask your SA to get it back for free lor blush.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 2 2009, 08:57 PM)
CPS 1.6 is the MUST on cps car. haha.. Faster go get yours back.
haha... u always promote ppc. Ada komisen ka? =P
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no commission one lah,
just wanna share info with other forumer that we can check the usual price online mah ..
so won't kena potong leher outside lor tongue.gif
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QUOTE(attention @ Dec 2 2009, 08:55 PM)
omg... it's my fault

tomorrow call back the SA see whether he can get me one set...
otherwise... no emblem oso looks nice...

sigh...
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smack the fella's head if he can't get you the emblem... hohohohohoh tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 2 2009, 08:42 PM)
too excited didn't check properly?  laugh.gif

user posted image

can get it : HERE
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Proton Parts Centre Sdn Bhd
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 2 2009, 08:57 PM)
CPS 1.6 is the MUST on cps car. haha.. Faster go get yours back.
haha... u always promote ppc. Ada komisen ka? =P
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is it? hmm.gif okok... must get it back then!

QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 2 2009, 09:03 PM)
smack the fella's head if he can't get you the emblem... hohohohohoh  tongue.gif
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how they work as a SA... doh.gif
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QUOTE(attention @ Dec 2 2009, 08:24 PM)
em.. got my Gen2 CPS just now
pls add me to the member list.. thankz...

WTG5xxx - nanbu black MT, i remember i order T.Black (old stock?)

after i home, then only i realize that my back side emblem all missing liao...
no CPS 1.6 and Gen2...how come?

does anybody here facing the same issue here?
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Hi congraz on ur new ride.. How long u've been waiting for the arrival huh? smile.gif
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QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Dec 2 2009, 09:07 PM)
Hi congraz on ur new ride.. How long u've been waiting for the arrival huh?  smile.gif
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my waiting period was ... six month
i was told that the production of Gen2 cps was stopped and had continued in october...

i dunno whether it is true, but i do wait for sometime rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(attention @ Dec 2 2009, 09:09 PM)
my waiting period was ... six month
i was told that the production of Gen2 cps was stopped and had continued in october...

i dunno whether it is true, but i do wait for sometime  rclxub.gif
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the waiting is over... it's time to engage the CPS.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 2 2009, 09:00 PM)
mine changed every 10k (or simply everytime service...lol) simply because i travel about 200-300km per day (during busy days)...

to put it bluntly, travelling a lot will drain the coolant effeciency... that is why coolant changed color...
Glad to be of help...  biggrin.gif

p/s: post pre and after change photos...
some sc allows bringing your own parts... check with your sc whether you can bring in your preffered stuff...
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Make sure u change to a real coolant. Haha.. Test it either izit a real coolant or water colour. tongue.gif

QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 2 2009, 09:02 PM)
must ask your SA to get it back for free lor  blush.gif
laugh.gif
no commission one lah,
just wanna share info with other forumer that we can check the usual price online mah ..
so won't kena potong leher outside lor tongue.gif
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Hahaha... What a good member here. =P

QUOTE(attention @ Dec 2 2009, 09:09 PM)
my waiting period was ... six month
i was told that the production of Gen2 cps was stopped and had continued in october...

i dunno whether it is true, but i do wait for sometime  rclxub.gif
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Same like me la. But i dun give a d*mn. I called HQ after 3 weeks and scold them. Then evening my car came out at shah alam liao. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 2 2009, 09:11 PM)
the waiting is over... it's time to engage the CPS....  biggrin.gif
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it's cool! cool2.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 2 2009, 09:20 PM)
Make sure u change to a real coolant. Haha.. Test it either izit a real coolant or water colour.  tongue.gif
Hahaha... What a good member here. =P
Same like me la. But i dun give a d*mn. I called HQ after 3 weeks and scold them. Then evening my car came out at shah alam liao.  biggrin.gif
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i do called the i.care oso...
tak boleh pakai langsung... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(attention @ Dec 2 2009, 09:42 PM)
it's cool!  cool2.gif
i do called the i.care oso...
tak boleh pakai langsung...  vmad.gif
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i.care useless de.. go email them or take the stock department number from ur SA.
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 2 2009, 09:48 PM)
i.care useless de.. go email them or take the stock department number from ur SA.
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but anyhow...
no more waiting and next ...

the SC... lolz sweat.gif
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QUOTE(attention @ Dec 2 2009, 09:09 PM)
my waiting period was ... six month
i was told that the production of Gen2 cps was stopped and had continued in october...

i dunno whether it is true, but i do wait for sometime  rclxub.gif
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wah.
6months waiting period... sweat.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 2 2009, 09:20 PM)
Hahaha... What a good member here. =P
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you also share your knowledge with us lah,
since i guess you work in SC ... blush.gif

Share is Care, Care is Share mah tongue.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 2 2009, 10:16 PM)
wah.
6months waiting period...  sweat.gif
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you also share your knowledge with us lah,
since i guess you work in SC ...  blush.gif

Share is Care, Care is Share mah tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Dec 2 2009, 03:33 PM)
i just ask my foreman and they said it is not possible to have the cps gated shift gear installed on my 4g18, is it true? because i remember somebody installed on their 4g18 mitsu before
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Where do u get the cps gated shifter.. how much does the cost... if u have insatll it.. share the pic please... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 2 2009, 10:16 PM)
wah.
6months waiting period...  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Dec 2 2009, 09:16 AM)
jvipers: i wouldn't dare to stretch that long. max also 7500kms at most and need to change filter also.. hehe..
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 2 2009, 01:41 PM)
agreed with jctasoga,
i guess the best time for fully syn engine oil change is 7000km right?
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Why no stretching it to 10,000KM? You guyz pushing the CPS to it's limit everytime? hmm.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 2 2009, 06:36 PM)
Actually full syn go each 5k km to change oil filter and add treatment.
Buying engine oil, important is see the SAE and also the SL grade.
Lower viscosity give more mileage because the engine feel lighter.
Gearoil for cps manual gb is 2.4 litre.
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Change oil filter and add treatment..why isn't it written on the manual? doh.gif
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I asked the Sec13 SC, he said can't even use fully syn. No matter wat die die must stick with 10w30 only.
Then why first service they give me 15w50 mad.gif
damn tulan wit the staff today ...

Now next mod will be exhaust system +K&N + some accessory brows.gif

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 2 2009, 09:20 PM)
Make sure u change to a real coolant. Haha.. Test it either izit a real coolant or water colour.  tongue.gif
Hahaha... What a good member here. =P
Same like me la. But i dun give a d*mn. I called HQ after 3 weeks and scold them. Then evening my car came out at shah alam liao.  biggrin.gif
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i changed coolant not at sc so can see the mecha pour in red color toyota long life.... but then again now i'm no longer servicing at sc so it not a biggie...

QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Dec 3 2009, 12:12 AM)
Why no stretching it to 10,000KM? You guyz pushing the CPS to it's limit everytime?  hmm.gif
Change oil filter and add treatment..why isn't it written on the manual?  doh.gif
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for a fully synthetic lubricant, we can do oil change at every 10k.... however, do remember oil filter must be replaced at 5k or 6month (whichever comes first)....

unless you can get a long life oil filter, standard proton parts oil filter (or any other manufacturer) only last about 5k or 6 month....


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my waiting period was ... six month
i was told that the production of Gen2 cps was stopped and had continued in october...

i dunno whether it is true, but i do wait for sometime  rclxub.gif
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ic, due to priority given to Exora?? hmm.gif


QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 2 2009, 09:20 PM)
Make sure u change to a real coolant. Haha.. Test it either izit a real coolant or water colour.  tongue.gif
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Real coolant is green color or red color one? rclxub.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 2 2009, 09:20 PM)
Same like me la. But i dun give a d*mn. I called HQ after 3 weeks and scold them. Then evening my car came out at shah alam liao.  biggrin.gif
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Sing Yeh is diff mar, u talk "louder" laugh.gif


QUOTE(attention @ Dec 2 2009, 09:42 PM)
it's cool!  cool2.gif
i do called the i.care oso...
tak boleh pakai langsung... 
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Agreed, i-care not caring at all.. vmad.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 2 2009, 09:48 PM)
i.care useless de.. go email them or take the stock department number from ur SA.
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Email oso dun care one.. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 2 2009, 10:19 PM)
haha.. I can share my knowledge. Any problem or inquiry, i can help to solve it as I can. Hehe..
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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Dec 3 2009, 12:12 AM)
Why no stretching it to 10,000KM? You guyz pushing the CPS to it's limit everytime?  hmm.gif
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no, i service my car every 5000km even using Semi Syn engine oil ...
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Dec 2 2009, 07:34 PM)
Hem.. Didn't know u also at kb during raya.. Me accompany my wife at hospital usm for 2 week. Raya at hospital lo. If not can have tt with u.. Huhu..
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Bini dah bersalin ke bro? smile.gif Raya asyik makan daging je laugh.gif


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em.. got my Gen2 CPS just now
pls add me to the member list.. thankz...

WTG5xxx - nanbu black MT, i remember i order T.Black (old stock?)

after i home, then only i realize that my back side emblem all missing liao...
no CPS 1.6 and Gen2...how come?

does anybody here facing the same issue here?
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QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Dec 3 2009, 06:28 AM)
Real coolant is green color or red color one?  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(eastwest @ Dec 3 2009, 09:58 AM)
Bini dah bersalin ke bro? smile.gif  Raya asyik makan daging je laugh.gif
Yap.. But baby died.. Too young, 6 month only, 545 gram.. Maybe no rezeki yet... sad.gif
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Dec 3 2009, 10:52 AM)
Yap.. But baby died.. Too young, 6 month only, 545 gram.. Maybe no rezeki yet... sad.gif
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Takziah utk bro dan isteri.. sad.gif Semoga tabah menghadapi dugaan.
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Dec 3 2009, 10:52 AM)
Yap.. But baby died.. Too young, 6 month only, 545 gram.. Maybe no rezeki yet... sad.gif
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Sori to hear that bro sad.gif

Btw, Mod project 40k have been done yesterday and today brows.gif
1. K&N Drop in filter
2. Denso Iridium power
3. Full exhaust system 4-2-1 extractor, Oval crossection midbox, straight flow muffler wif removable silencer and 2" ssteel piping all the way
(Rm 800 Wai Heng sunway)
4. Major service 40k 10w40 Mobil S
Verdict: car feel very light and cps engage sound much more obvious (wif silencer)dont try yet remove silencer brows.gif
But there still throttle lag and still waiting for my redline LCP coz the sale guy told me lcp for cps dont have stock yet..just have normal gen2 nod.gif
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QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Dec 3 2009, 11:15 AM)
Sori to hear that bro sad.gif

Btw, Mod project 40k have been done yesterday and today brows.gif
1. K&N Drop in filter
2. Denso Iridium power
3. Full exhaust system 4-2-1 extractor, Oval crossection midbox, straight flow muffler wif removable silencer and 2" ssteel piping all the way
(Rm 800 Wai Heng sunway)
4. Major service 40k 10w40 Mobil S
Verdict: car feel very light and cps engage sound much more obvious (wif silencer)dont try yet remove silencer brows.gif
But there still throttle lag and still waiting for my redline LCP coz the sale guy told me lcp for cps dont have stock yet..just have normal gen2 nod.gif
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What is your time now? 9 seconds flat? tongue.gif The difference are very obvious ke?
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QUOTE(eastwest @ Dec 3 2009, 11:36 AM)
What is your time now? 9 seconds flat? tongue.gif  The difference are very obvious ke?
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haha dont know la how many sec tongue.gif
dont try 'tarik' yet using 10w40 coz just cameback from sc straight to office..
before, using 15w50, wif k&n+iridium+exhaust can see the diff between normal and cps zone exhaust sound oledi icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Dec 3 2009, 11:15 AM)
Sori to hear that bro sad.gif

Btw, Mod project 40k have been done yesterday and today brows.gif
1. K&N Drop in filter
2. Denso Iridium power
3. Full exhaust system 4-2-1 extractor, Oval crossection midbox, straight flow muffler wif removable silencer and 2" ssteel piping all the way
(Rm 800 Wai Heng sunway)
4. Major service 40k 10w40 Mobil S
Verdict: car feel very light and cps engage sound much more obvious (wif silencer)dont try yet remove silencer brows.gif
But there still throttle lag and still waiting for my redline LCP coz the sale guy told me lcp for cps dont have stock yet..just have normal gen2 nod.gif
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how good the silencer work? can reduce alot of noise?


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Guys, have you ever met car that its plate number start with number and end with alphabet? 6alphanumeric to be exact.
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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Dec 3 2009, 12:12 AM)
Why no stretching it to 10,000KM? You guyz pushing the CPS to it's limit everytime?  hmm.gif
Change oil filter and add treatment..why isn't it written on the manual?  doh.gif
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Of course it not in the manual.. Hehe...

QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Dec 3 2009, 06:28 AM)
ic, due to priority given to Exora??  hmm.gif
Real coolant is green color or red color one?  rclxub.gif
Sing Yeh is diff mar, u talk "louder" laugh.gif
Agreed, i-care not caring at all..  vmad.gif
Email oso dun care one..  shakehead.gif
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those coolant colour is only colouring. Don't care either it is what colours, janji is coolant. Test it these way. First, put at upper fridge. See it will frozen or not. If frozen, it not a coolant. 2nd, put a nail into a coolant. See it rust or not. After done these two thing, then the coolant is safe to be use.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Dec 3 2009, 10:52 AM)
Yap.. But baby died.. Too young, 6 month only, 545 gram.. Maybe no rezeki yet... sad.gif
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Sorry to hear that bro... sad.gif

QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Dec 3 2009, 11:15 AM)
Btw, Mod project 40k have been done yesterday and today brows.gif
1. K&N Drop in filter
2. Denso Iridium power
3. Full exhaust system 4-2-1 extractor, Oval crossection midbox, straight flow muffler wif removable silencer and 2" ssteel piping all the way
(Rm 800 Wai Heng sunway)
4. Major service 40k 10w40 Mobil S
Verdict: car feel very light and cps engage sound much more obvious (wif silencer)dont try yet remove silencer brows.gif
But there still throttle lag and still waiting for my redline LCP coz the sale guy told me lcp for cps dont have stock yet..just have normal gen2 nod.gif
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you also can hear the CPS engage sound huh?
how come mine no sound at all... rclxub.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 3 2009, 02:10 PM)
those coolant colour is only colouring. Don't care either it is what colours, janji is coolant. Test it these way. First, put at upper fridge. See it will frozen or not. If frozen, it not a coolant. 2nd, put a nail into a coolant. See it rust or not. After done these two thing, then the coolant is safe to be use..  biggrin.gif
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normally how many bottle of Coolant we need?
Owner's Manual written need 5.2Liters... sweat.gif

If using Toyota LoongLife Coolant @ RM20/pc,
just replace Coolant also need RM1xx leh... sweat.gif

Our car suggested to use Full Coolant right? blush.gif
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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Dec 3 2009, 12:05 PM)
how good the silencer work? can reduce alot of noise?
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dont know coz i'm not try wif silencer removed yet..
but wif silencer, the sound during cruising 100-110kmh as silent as stock..but roarr when you accelerate icon_idea.gif
i really like the sound outside my cockpit by using this straight flow muffler..
stock muffler give bassy sound in cockpit give me headache sometime tongue.gif


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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 3 2009, 03:10 PM)
Sorry to hear that bro...  sad.gif
you also can hear the CPS engage sound huh?
how come mine no sound at all...  rclxub.gif
normally how many bottle of Coolant we need?
Owner's Manual written need 5.2Liters...  sweat.gif

If using Toyota LoongLife Coolant @ RM20/pc,
just replace Coolant also need RM1xx leh...  sweat.gif

Our car suggested to use Full Coolant right?  blush.gif
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dont know how to describe but its like vtec open but not as agresive as vtec.. whistling.gif
i can feel rev climbing much faster after rpm3.8k icon_rolleyes.gif

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sorry to hear about that pearjar, takziah.

everyone changing exhaust huh... no money... $$$$

eastwest: sabah / sarawak number plates? SAAxxxxL something like that...

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QUOTE(eastwest @ Dec 3 2009, 01:11 PM)
Guys, have you ever met car that its plate number start with number and end with alphabet? 6alphanumeric to be exact.
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sabah plates like

Kota Kinabalu SAA XXXX X
Kudat SK XXXX X
Beaufort SD XXXX X
Tawau ST XXXX
Lahad Datu SD XXXX X
Sandakan SS XXXX X

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QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 3 2009, 04:41 PM)
sabah plates like

Kota Kinabalu SAA XXXX X
Kudat SK XXXX X
Beaufort SD XXXX X
Tawau ST XXXX
Lahad Datu SD XXXX X
Sandakan SS XXXX X
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Nope, I saw this one car, its plate number just XXXXXX. very weird, don't know from where blink.gif

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ur imagination? like JJJ 111 becomes 6 alpha numberic? hehe...
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QUOTE(eastwest @ Dec 3 2009, 05:12 PM)
Nope, I saw this one car, its plate number just XXXXXX. very weird, don't know from where blink.gif
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sometimes people bring back the car they bought overseas... they are allowed to drive the car for certain period before using malaysian registeration...

having said that, each malaysian is entitled to one AP per lifetime.

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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Dec 3 2009, 05:31 PM)
ur imagination? like JJJ 111 becomes 6 alpha numberic? hehe...
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Impossible to mistake it for something else rclxub.gif

QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 3 2009, 05:31 PM)
sometimes people bring back the car they bought overseas... they are allowed to drive the car for certain period before using malaysian registeration...

having said that, each malaysian is entitled to one AP per lifetime.
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ooo..ok.
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 3 2009, 03:10 PM)
Sorry to hear that bro...  sad.gif
you also can hear the CPS engage sound huh?
how come mine no sound at all...  rclxub.gif
normally how many bottle of Coolant we need?
Owner's Manual written need 5.2Liters...  sweat.gif

If using Toyota LoongLife Coolant @ RM20/pc,
just replace Coolant also need RM1xx leh...  sweat.gif

Our car suggested to use Full Coolant right?  blush.gif
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what mean full coolant? mean 100% coolant? Cannot.. it will make your radiator crack even faster.. Actually put 2 liter already enough. just make sure it coolant is good. I see many of users like toyota longlife coolant.. May i know why? As i know, they alot imitation about that coolant... sweat.gif
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what about caltex coolant...its in red..im using it...i think ok...kua...500ml=18bucks.... and btw how long do i need to change the coolant??....every 20-30k??
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toyota = good coolant, honda = good power steering, super pro = bushes, engine oil = $$$.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Dec 3 2009, 07:04 PM)
what about caltex coolant...its in red..im using it...i think ok...kua...500ml=18bucks.... and btw how long do i need to change the coolant??....every 20-30k??
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Change every 20k should be correct. Mostly SC change every 10k km. For cps, change coolant really so troublesome. Need bleeding.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 3 2009, 09:04 PM)
Change every 20k should be correct. Mostly SC change every 10k km. For cps, change coolant really so troublesome. Need bleeding..  sweat.gif
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Yeah, takes time and patience.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(eastwest @ Dec 3 2009, 09:58 AM)
Bini dah bersalin ke bro? smile.gif  Raya asyik makan daging je laugh.gif


Added on December 3, 2009, 10:02 am
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hmm the sc din do bleeding when chg my radiator. is it necessary ?

he just use classic way .. pull out the hose n keep rev to push all water out sweat.gif
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memang proton CPS punya engin bagus ke? aku dgr2 nak pakai CPS untuk model waja (body mitsubishi lancer 2009) tahun depan, btl ke?
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 3 2009, 02:10 PM)
Of course it not in the manual.. Hehe...
those coolant colour is only colouring. Don't care either it is what colours, janji is coolant. Test it these way. First, put at upper fridge. See it will frozen or not. If frozen, it not a coolant. 2nd, put a nail into a coolant. See it rust or not. After done these two thing, then the coolant is safe to be use..  biggrin.gif
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Can u test it and post the result share v us? tongue.gif
(First way can find out immediately, 2nd one seem need to wait fews days wor.. sweat.gif )

What coolant singchaii taiko is using? I'll fallow u~ brows.gif
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QUOTE(hata_yie @ Dec 3 2009, 10:34 PM)
memang proton CPS punya engin bagus ke? aku dgr2 nak pakai CPS untuk model waja (body mitsubishi lancer 2009) tahun depan, btl ke?
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I doubt that they will use cps 1.6 for the new waja (with the lancer body) unless its the T version. And afaik, the only confirm model next year is facelifted Persona.
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 3 2009, 02:10 PM)
Of course it not in the manual.. Hehe...
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Why not leh? hmm.gif

Takziah bro pearjar and family sad.gif
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Dec 3 2009, 10:52 AM)
Yap.. But baby died.. Too young, 6 month only, 545 gram.. Maybe no rezeki yet... sad.gif
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sorry to hear that bro.. takziah...
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pearjar:
Sorry to hear that oso.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Dec 3 2009, 03:49 PM)
dont know how to describe but its like vtec open but not as agresive as vtec.. whistling.gif
i can feel rev climbing much faster after rpm3.8k icon_rolleyes.gif
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i want test drive whistling.gif rolleyes.gif whistling.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 3 2009, 06:40 PM)
what mean full coolant? mean 100% coolant? Cannot.. it will make your radiator crack even faster.. Actually put 2 liter already enough. just make sure it coolant is good. I see many of users like toyota longlife coolant.. May i know why? As i know, they alot imitation about that coolant...  sweat.gif
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oh.. ok,
becoz what i read from Owner's Manual is advisable to use full coolant (mean 100% coolant without any distill water)...

QUOTE(jctasoga @ Dec 3 2009, 07:49 PM)
toyota = good coolant, honda = good power steering, super pro = bushes, engine oil = $$$..
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a bit regret didn't use Honda Power Steering Fluid @ RM30 1liter... sad.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 3 2009, 09:04 PM)
Change every 20k should be correct. Mostly SC change every 10k km. For cps, change coolant really so troublesome. Need bleeding..  sweat.gif
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my mileage now is 22k+,
wonder should i replace the coolant,
or should wait till 40k service? hmm.gif

first time hear coolant need bleeding ... blink.gif
i thought replace coolant like traditional way,
drill out all old coolant, re-fill with new coolant, done...
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 4 2009, 12:30 AM)

becoz what i read from Owner's Manual is advisable to use full coolant (mean 100% coolant without any distill water)...


first time hear coolant need bleeding ...  blink.gif
i thought replace coolant like traditional way,
drill out all old coolant, re-fill with new coolant, done...
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i bet when you were at school you must be a top scorer... everything follow textbook....lol biggrin.gif

knowledge not necessary must be all derived from textbook, some must be collected through experience, some through pass down information....

if you haven't heard of coolant bleeding then you have a long way to go my young padawan..... keep on learning.... nod.gif
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 4 2009, 12:30 AM)
i want test drive  whistling.gif  rolleyes.gif  whistling.gif
oh.. ok,
becoz what i read from Owner's Manual is advisable to use full coolant (mean 100% coolant without any distill water)...
a bit regret didn't use Honda Power Steering Fluid @ RM30 1liter...  sad.gif
my mileage now is 22k+,
wonder should i replace the coolant,
or should wait till 40k service?  hmm.gif

first time hear coolant need bleeding ...  blink.gif
i thought replace coolant like traditional way,
drill out all old coolant, re-fill with new coolant, done...
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the traditional way of changing coolant will end up with high temp hahaha...
there is a screw nearby the enterence to engine and that is used for bleeding.

btw the 100% coolant meant in owners manual is referring to Proton Coolent where it already premix.


Added on December 4, 2009, 8:25 am
QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 4 2009, 08:01 AM)
i bet when you were at school you must be a top scorer... everything follow textbook....lol  biggrin.gif

knowledge not necessary must be all derived from textbook, some must be collected through experience, some through pass down information....

if you haven't heard of coolant bleeding then you have a long way to go my young padawan..... keep on learning....  nod.gif
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Everything follow text book also cannot score lo...sometimes the open book test cannot find answer inside the book hahaha



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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Dec 4 2009, 08:21 AM)
the traditional way of changing coolant will end up with high temp hahaha...
there is a screw nearby the enterence to engine and that is used for bleeding.

btw the 100% coolant meant in owners manual is referring to Proton Coolent where it already premix.


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Everything follow text book also cannot score lo...sometimes the open book test cannot find answer inside the book hahaha
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yup proton's one already premix...


if open book can not find answer then look in front, left and right...... i did that before ...hahahahah tongue.gif
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QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 4 2009, 08:01 AM)
i bet when you were at school you must be a top scorer... everything follow textbook....lol  biggrin.gif

knowledge not necessary must be all derived from textbook, some must be collected through experience, some through pass down information....

if you haven't heard of coolant bleeding then you have a long way to go my young padawan..... keep on learning....  nod.gif
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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Dec 4 2009, 08:21 AM)
the traditional way of changing coolant will end up with high temp hahaha...
there is a screw nearby the enterence to engine and that is used for bleeding.

btw the 100% coolant meant in owners manual is referring to Proton Coolent where it already premix.


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Everything follow text book also cannot score lo...sometimes the open book test cannot find answer inside the book hahaha
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i bet 90% of mech when customer require coolant replacement,
they will use traditional way... blush.gif

what about Proton Service Centre?
we won't know they use coolant bleeding or traditional way what since we can't see them service... blink.gif

QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 4 2009, 09:27 AM)
yup proton's one already premix...
if open book can not find answer then look in front, left and right......  i did that before ...hahahahah tongue.gif
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Owner's Manual is a guidebook for newbie as me mah... blush.gif
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read to know.adapt to change... wink.gif


Added on December 4, 2009, 9:55 amcoolant bleeding is done to remove the air bubbles trapped inside engine when we changed the coolant right?

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 4 2009, 09:49 AM)
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Don't laugh at me lah...  tongue.gif
i bet 90% of mech when customer require coolant replacement,
they will use traditional way...  blush.gif

what about Proton Service Centre?
we won't know they use coolant bleeding or traditional way what since we can't see them service...  blink.gif
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Owner's Manual is a guidebook for newbie as me mah...  blush.gif
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that's y u have to very careful when send to other mech for changing coolant. Campro or CPS is compulsory for bleeding.
Don't worry about PESC, they will do proper bleeding. Usually they will bring ur car to places with water hose so that they can wash away the spillage.


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read to know.adapt to change... wink.gif


Added on December 4, 2009, 9:55 amcoolant bleeding is done to remove the air bubbles trapped inside engine when we changed the coolant right?
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"read to know.adapt to change" wooo i like this one.

yes, to remove the bubble. That's why they remove the screw to allow the bubble escape for approx 5-10mins with engine running on idling before tighten it back.



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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Dec 4 2009, 09:53 AM)
read to know.adapt to change... wink.gif


Added on December 4, 2009, 9:55 amcoolant bleeding is done to remove the air bubbles trapped inside engine when we changed the coolant right?
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what a profound quote.... its so enlightening .....


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Don't laugh at me lah...  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Dec 4 2009, 10:51 AM)
its Friday mates! live free!! woohoo!
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yeahhooo friday...

hey guys...ive been reading the thread but hardly to post..u know ler..use my n95..leceh..laptop my fiance borrow..soo cannot post here..
finally back to kl....dammn last monday boss ask me to replace sumone...went to LIMA 09.. awesome show we hv there..
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wah ngumpat bm at back ahh thinwu...VerM...pearjar sory to hear sad.gif ..

att 10 tion...got car oledi pheww sweat.gif 6month can make me go crazy...go ask SC to replace..cps car must hv those emblem..if no cps emblem better buy normal gen2 hahaha..want R3 emblem pm me..haha..

sooo thinwu in kl...Verm,Me biggrin.gif ...all ppl in kl oledi?..soo tonite tt???how?
ada berani...hahahaha....

not yet service my car doh.gif ...62k oledi sweat.gif dammn bz...this weekend went to melaka...again.. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Dec 4 2009, 11:27 AM)
yeahhooo friday...

hey guys...ive been reading the thread but hardly to post..u know ler..use my n95..leceh..laptop my fiance borrow..soo cannot post here..
finally back to kl....dammn last monday boss ask me to replace sumone...went to LIMA 09.. awesome show we hv there..
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wah ngumpat bm at back ahh thinwu...VerM...pearjar sory to hear sad.gif ..

att 10 tion...got car oledi pheww sweat.gif 6month can make me go crazy...go ask SC to replace..cps car must hv those emblem..if no cps emblem better buy normal gen2 hahaha..want R3 emblem pm me..haha..

sooo thinwu in kl...Verm,Me biggrin.gif ...all ppl in kl oledi?..soo tonite tt???how?
ada berani...hahahaha....

not yet service my car doh.gif ...62k oledi sweat.gif  dammn bz...this weekend went to melaka...again.. sweat.gif
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oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ic.....

ada brani..... heheheheheh
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QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 4 2009, 11:49 AM)
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ic.....

ada brani..... heheheheheh
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Dec 4 2009, 12:20 PM)
haha.....byklaaaaaaa... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Dec 3 2009, 10:40 PM)
Can u test it and post the result share v us?  tongue.gif
(First way can find out immediately, 2nd one seem need to wait fews days wor.. 

What coolant singchaii taiko is using? I'll fallow u~  brows.gif
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I used Hyrax coolant.. Heard before?

QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Dec 3 2009, 11:37 PM)
Why not leh? 

Takziah bro pearjar and family sad.gif
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Sure not. It more in detail already. Let me share with you here..

Mineral engine oil = almost 90% based oil.
Semi synthetic engine oil = 50% based oil 50% additive
Fully synthetic engine oil = 30% based oil 70% additive.

Not all company oil is same. Above i write is just for reference. So using fully synthetic for 10k, the additive inside will getting lesser. So for more better, 5k need to add additive. For oil filter, our car is design for each 5k km to change it. So the the oil filter can filter it for maximum 6k km. If you used for 10k, mean the oil filter might not filter it anymore as inside is clogged. So we need to change the oil filter for 5k km when we use fully synthetic.

QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 4 2009, 12:30 AM)
i want test drive
oh.. ok,
becoz what i read from Owner's Manual is advisable to use full coolant (mean 100% coolant without any distill water)...
a bit regret didn't use Honda Power Steering Fluid @ RM30 1liter...  sad.gif
my mileage now is 22k+,
wonder should i replace the coolant,
or should wait till 40k service?  hmm.gif

first time hear coolant need bleeding ...  blink.gif
i thought replace coolant like traditional way,
drill out all old coolant, re-fill with new coolant, done...
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Most of the EFI engine need bleed the cooling system when flush to change new coolant. In campro, bleeding is so important. Or else, will cause overheating. =)
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 4 2009, 02:46 PM)
Most of the EFI engine need bleed the cooling system when flush to change new coolant. In campro, bleeding is so important. Or else, will cause overheating. =)
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Yeah, because Campro and CPS engine is indeed HOT. brows.gif

BTW, helping a friend selling sport rim

http://www.mudah.my/New-15-inch-Enkei-Riva...6542.htm?last=1
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 4 2009, 02:49 PM)
Yeah, because Campro and CPS engine is indeed HOT. brows.gif

BTW, helping a friend selling sport rim

http://www.mudah.my/New-15-inch-Enkei-Riva...6542.htm?last=1
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haha.. not because of hot. because of the design.. hahaha.... in waja it still okay as waja running 2 fans.
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 4 2009, 02:58 PM)
haha.. not because of hot. because of the design.. hahaha.... in waja it still okay as waja running 2 fans.
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The HOT is not intended to describe the temperature. laugh.gif
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singchaii...as promised

Attached Image this is the getah..everytime winding down..little by little..it will jatuh doh.gif

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this is the weather strip..oledi koyak..thts y everytime winding down it will jatuh..

btw..tis take from melaka - kl PLUS highway last week..
my car 2.8k RPM @ 100kmh biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 4 2009, 03:00 PM)
The HOT is not intended to describe the temperature. laugh.gif
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haha.. then i know what HOT mean then. brows.gif

QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Dec 4 2009, 03:07 PM)
singchaii...as promised

Attached Image this is the getah..everytime winding down..little by little..it will jatuh doh.gif

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this is the weather strip..oledi koyak..thts y  everytime winding down it will jatuh..

btw..tis take from melaka - kl  PLUS highway last week..
my car 2.8k RPM @ 100kmh biggrin.gif

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Wah.. that also can koyak.. First time see this case,.... hehe
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my waja cps got hit from the back.. back bumper dent already.. (sakit ati tgk) ..
planning to change new bodykit or just the bumper...hmmm any recommendation guys??
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sphiroth: too bad its pcd100. hehe...
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btw..tis take from melaka - kl PLUS highway last week..
my car 2.8k RPM @ 100kmh biggrin.gif

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Should me 2600rpm at 100km, me too icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Dec 4 2009, 03:07 PM)
singchaii...as promised

this is the weather strip..oledi koyak..thts y  everytime winding down it will jatuh..

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wow.. so brutal.. what r u doin to ur tingkap bro???

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QUOTE(klia @ Dec 4 2009, 05:35 PM)
btw..tis take from melaka - kl  PLUS highway last week..
my car 2.8k RPM @ 100kmh biggrin.gif

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Should me 2600rpm at 100km, me too  icon_rolleyes.gif
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oups...2.6k actually..hahahha...thnx for noticing!!


QUOTE(ThienWu @ Dec 4 2009, 05:45 PM)
wow.. so brutal.. what r u doin to ur tingkap bro???
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brutel bana mad.gif ...since the tingkap jatuh..sangkut lah..everytime use it..myb due to not fixing correctly..thts y lama2 koyak...huh RM 80 - to RM100...btw singchaii ask dino to orders...he said cannot order from phone...need to go there n place order doh.gif ..tot he ordered last sat!!! doh.gif
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QUOTE(klia @ Dec 4 2009, 05:35 PM)
btw..tis take from melaka - kl  PLUS highway last week..
my car 2.8k RPM @ 100kmh biggrin.gif

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Should me 2600rpm at 100km, me too  icon_rolleyes.gif
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wow, rpm so low can get 100km/h.. rclxms.gif any mod? hehe biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Decyfer @ Dec 4 2009, 06:04 PM)
wow, rpm so low can get 100km/h.. rclxms.gif  any mod? hehe  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Dec 3 2009, 12:19 AM)
I asked the Sec13 SC, he said can't even use fully syn. No matter wat die die must stick with 10w30 only.
Then why first service they give me 15w50 mad.gif
damn tulan wit the staff today ...

Now next mod will be exhaust system +K&N + some accessory brows.gif
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I now use full synthetic change at sc eon teluk intan
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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Dec 4 2009, 06:30 PM)
I now use full synthetic change at sc eon teluk intan
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bro blk teluk intan oledi..did u receive ur parcel? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Dec 4 2009, 03:58 PM)
sphiroth: too bad its pcd100. hehe...
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That rims only suitable for k-car due to its narrow width.

Just back from SC for 60k km service. Using 5w40 oil feels gooooooddddddd. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

And got free gift


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bro blk teluk intan oledi..did u receive ur parcel? biggrin.gif
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Yup yup receive the parcel edi rclxms.gif

The front emblem so hard to screw. In the end just unscrew the whole front bumper to put the emblem. The back emblem double sided tape not so good. Not sticking properly. Maybe my car too waxy hehe sweat.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 4 2009, 02:46 PM)
Most of the EFI engine need bleed the cooling system when flush to change new coolant. In campro, bleeding is so important. Or else, will cause overheating. =)
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i usually do "drain out the old coolant>fill in water and let it run for a while>drain the water out> refill in water and run again (repeat 2-3times)...then only fill in the new coolant and water....is this correct way??....or bleeding like someone said is "start the engine and let the coolant come out?? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 4 2009, 06:39 PM)
That rims only suitable for k-car due to its narrow width.

Just back from SC for 60k km service. Using 5w40 oil feels gooooooddddddd. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

And got free gift
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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Dec 4 2009, 06:56 PM)
Yup yup receive the parcel edi  rclxms.gif

The front emblem so hard to screw. In the end just unscrew the whole front bumper to put the emblem. The back emblem double sided tape not so good. Not sticking properly. Maybe my car too waxy hehe  sweat.gif
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sweat.gif fuh..d whole bumper? sweat.gif ...u wax ur car??no wonder...the double tape is 3M..same like mine..should hold strongly..best to stick it during hot daylight..the tape will hold strong fast...

QUOTE(loong2020 @ Dec 4 2009, 07:13 PM)
i usually do "drain out the old coolant>fill in water and let it run for a while>drain the water out> refill in water and run again (repeat 2-3times)...then only fill in the new coolant and water....is this correct way??....or bleeding like someone said is "start the engine and let the coolant come out?? hmm.gif
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both technique can be use.. biggrin.gif

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eh mr. chairman, tonite not dating come to putrajaya laaar..... you escaped the last tt session....
this time around make sure you otw to putrajaya not the other way.... hehehehe lol tongue.gif

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QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 4 2009, 07:54 PM)
eh mr. chairman, tonite not dating come to putrajaya laaar..... you escaped the last tt session....
this time around make sure you otw to putrajaya not the other way.... hehehehe lol  tongue.gif
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ok2...soo tonite got??
msg me the venue..n time...free after 11pm....me still in the office..just finish quoting tender..about to move back home....
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Dec 4 2009, 08:05 PM)
ok2...soo tonite got??
msg me the venue..n time...free after 11pm....me still in the office..just finish quoting tender..about to move back home....
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i'm free tonite but you guys have to come down to putrajaya instead. truly sorry for not being able to tt elsewhere at the moment... blush.gif
perhaps later at the end of the month i'd be able to go other place....

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Thanks everyone... Me ok but my wife little bit sad.. Hope can help her too recover.. Always asking when want to go kuala kangsar, her hometown..

Due to heavy rain and flash flood, me connect back CAI to oem style, for this raining season only.. Afraid sucking flood water... tongue.gif Flooded road sometime have deep hole, afraid will dent my rim, 17" with 45.. Huh... sweat.gif

About coolant, me will reach 20k mileage soon.. Wanna use 100% proton coolant... 5 bottle is it? Engine oil will stick to syntium 10w-30..

p/s: Already got loan for my own house(now stay with parent tongue.gif ). But need to topup rm15k.. sweat.gif Mana mau carik ooo... Next year kena 'potong' rm645+rm1200 monthly.. hoho... No more mod.. wink.gif
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hello guys..i have booked waja cps early last month and got discount RM3K for 09 car. The SA told me the car will arrive this month. My loan already approved and the bank wants me to sign the agreement before end of Dec. So i call SA to ask about the status of the car, but he do not promise when i can get the car.

So, is it okey to me to sign the bank agreement first bcoz it must be settle before end of this year? Or i need to confirmation from my SA first? FYI i already pay a booking fee.


i like metal grey, but he say it is difficult to get that color. cry.gif . So he booked me bronze garnet color.

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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Dec 4 2009, 11:27 AM)
yeahhooo friday...

hey guys...ive been reading the thread but hardly to post..u know ler..use my n95..leceh..laptop my fiance borrow..soo cannot post here..
finally back to kl....dammn last monday boss ask me to replace sumone...went to LIMA 09.. awesome show we hv there..
thumbup.gif
wah ngumpat bm at back ahh thinwu...VerM...pearjar sory to hear sad.gif ..

att 10 tion...got car oledi pheww sweat.gif 6month can make me go crazy...go ask SC to replace..cps car must hv those emblem..if no cps emblem better buy normal gen2 hahaha..want R3 emblem pm me..haha..

sooo thinwu in kl...Verm,Me biggrin.gif ...all ppl in kl oledi?..soo tonite tt???how?
ada berani...hahahaha....

not yet service my car doh.gif ...62k oledi sweat.gif  dammn bz...this weekend went to melaka...again.. sweat.gif
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everyone so proud with the CPS huh~ thumbup.gif
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Guys,
think to grab a Gen 2 with CPS next year.
However, still very fresh with CPS engine.... Base on the specification, power to weight ratio for CPS in Gen 2 / Neo is around 1ps : 9.xx ~ 10kg.
and 0~100km/h is around 10sec.
Any Neo or Gen 2 here tested with Mivec before?
How is the result?
Just need a very rough result.
Pls advise.. Thanks
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Dec 4 2009, 06:29 PM)
mayb due to 17"  laugh.gif
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Haha. Gear ratio is dead.. Cannot be adjust. Hehe. No matter how u do, also wont affect the gear ratio.

QUOTE(loong2020 @ Dec 4 2009, 07:13 PM)
i usually do "drain out the old coolant>fill in water and let it run for a while>drain the water out> refill in water and run again (repeat 2-3times)...then only fill in the new coolant and water....is this correct way??....or bleeding like someone said is "start the engine and let the coolant come out?? hmm.gif
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You do this on cps? Actually this way is wrong for bleeding.

Correct procedure is,

1. remove the no.8 screw after the thermostat housing. (Handle it with care. easily loose.)
2. After remove the screw, open the radiator cap and pour water. Pour until the coolant all out and you see is pure water coming out.
3. After that, continue pour coolant + water and then see until coolant coming out, tighten back the screw. See until no bubble only tighten the screw. Tighten the screw while the coolant still shooting out.
4. Start the engine with air cond off. Wait till the fan on and off for few times.
5. touch the upper hose and then the lower hose. Only complete and do correctly when the hotness is the same between two hoses.

Try at your own risk as it so sensitive in campro engine. Done flush it if your cooling system is rust.
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QUOTE(penpal_my @ Dec 4 2009, 09:14 PM)
hello guys..i have booked waja cps early last month and got discount RM3K for 09 car. The SA told me the car will arrive this month. My loan already approved and the bank wants me to sign the agreement before end of Dec. So i call SA to ask about the status of the car, but he do not promise when i can get the car.

So, is it okey to me to sign the bank agreement first bcoz it must be settle before end of this year? Or i need to confirmation from my SA first? FYI i already pay a booking fee.
i like metal grey, but he say it is difficult to get that color. cry.gif . So he booked me bronze garnet color.
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booking fee doesn't guarantee anything.... when you put in downpayment and process the loan then only SA will proceed...

plus signing loan agreement have absolutely nothing to do with the car delivery....

i signed my agreement months before i get my car...

if you really want metal grey and time is not an issue, then insist your SA to book that colour....
if time is precious or that color is no longer in production, you'll have to choose alternative color...

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QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 4 2009, 11:02 PM)
booking fee doesn't guarantee anything.... when you put in downpayment and process the loan then only SA will proceed...

plus signing loan agreement have absolutely nothing to do with the car delivery....

i signed my agreement months before i get my car...

if you really want metal grey and time is not an issue, then insist your SA to book that colour....
if time is precious or that color is no longer in production, you'll have to choose alternative color...
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okey..thanks for your info...this is my first time i buy a car. already asked my friends but they all have different experience. So i trust what SA told to me.

So next week i will sign my agreement and put downpayment for the CPS.
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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Dec 4 2009, 09:58 AM)
that's y u have to very careful when send to other mech for changing coolant. Campro or CPS is compulsory for bleeding.
Don't worry about PESC, they will do proper bleeding. Usually they will bring ur car to places with water hose so that they can wash away the spillage.


Added on December 4, 2009, 10:00 am

"read to know.adapt to change" wooo i like this one.

yes, to remove the bubble. That's why they remove the screw to allow the bubble escape for approx 5-10mins with engine running on idling before tighten it back.
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I just worry the one who service my car at PESC is newbie ... sweat.gif
maybe i worry too much ... tongue.gif

QUOTE(VerM @ Dec 4 2009, 10:28 AM)
early morning jokes in a cold rainy friday..... no offence intended though.....  biggrin.gif
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No hard feelings. biggrin.gif
Share is Care, Care is Share mah.

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 4 2009, 02:46 PM)
Most of the EFI engine need bleed the cooling system when flush to change new coolant. In campro, bleeding is so important. Or else, will cause overheating. =)
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Noted with thanks,
need to find a experience mech to handle this...
because scare those mech simply cin-cai doing only... shakehead.gif

QUOTE(loong2020 @ Dec 4 2009, 07:13 PM)
i usually do "drain out the old coolant>fill in water and let it run for a while>drain the water out> refill in water and run again (repeat 2-3times)...then only fill in the new coolant and water....is this correct way??....or bleeding like someone said is "start the engine and let the coolant come out?? hmm.gif
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This is the usually way i saw ppl doing coolant changing... hmm.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 4 2009, 10:44 PM)
Correct procedure is,

1. remove the no.8 screw after the thermostat housing. (Handle it with care. easily loose.)
2. After remove the screw, open the radiator cap and pour water. Pour until the coolant all out and you see is pure water coming out.
3. After that, continue pour coolant + water and then see until coolant coming out, tighten back the screw. See until no bubble only tighten the screw. Tighten the screw while the coolant still shooting out.
4. Start the engine with air cond off. Wait till the fan on and off for few times.
5. touch the upper hose and then the lower hose. Only complete and do correctly when the hotness is the same between two hoses.

Try at your own risk as it so sensitive in campro engine. Done flush it if your cooling system is rust.
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erhm... where is the thermostat housing ar? hehe... is it near the lower or upper coolant hoses?
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Dec 5 2009, 03:42 PM)
erhm... where is the thermostat housing ar? hehe... is it near the lower or upper coolant hoses?
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after the lower hoses..
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Just dyno my car.... tongue.gif

Dyno Result

Looong way to go.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Dec 5 2009, 10:09 PM)
Just dyno my car.... tongue.gif

Dyno Result

Looong way to go.. sweat.gif
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Nice, how much did they charge you? Notice that the operator didn't dare to rev till revcut.
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actually, from the graph, does it tells us that the max rpm should be 5000rpm for the max power? coz after that the torque and PS starts to fall off.

is it same in each gear?
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Dec 5 2009, 11:09 PM)
actually, from the graph, does it tells us that the max rpm should be 5000rpm for the max power? coz after that the torque and PS starts to fall off.

is it same in each gear?
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Yeah, the max power is around that (the same also mentioned in the spec) which I think is quite weird, usually power will kept climbing while torque may have drop.

Dyno are done in 1 gear, usually 3rd gear for MT.


Added on December 5, 2009, 11:22 pmMy dyno shows the power drop after 6.5k rpm

This post has been edited by sphiroth: Dec 5 2009, 11:22 PM
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ok cool! power n torque...i still find it hard to differentiate. torque is how much force required to keep the vehicle moving rite?power is... power of the engine that can be used? haha
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Why max torque only 103? I thought cps engine got 150.

ps: I don't know how to read that thing tongue.gif
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QUOTE(eastwest @ Dec 5 2009, 11:33 PM)
Why max torque only 103? I thought cps engine got 150.

ps: I don't know how to read that thing tongue.gif
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Its in different unit 103 ft/lb are around 140NM.
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Dec 5 2009, 10:09 PM)
Just dyno my car.... tongue.gif

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This one the power shows at wheel or crank?
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QUOTE(ezwann @ Dec 6 2009, 12:49 AM)
This one the power shows at wheel or crank?
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wheel.
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Dec 5 2009, 10:09 PM)
Just dyno my car.... tongue.gif

Dyno Result

Looong way to go.. sweat.gif
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Stock CPS?
what is your mod?

QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 5 2009, 11:42 PM)
Its in different unit 103 ft/lb are around 140NM.
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ah!
lucky you explain this,
if not i really thought the torque is quite low for CPS... sweat.gif

This post has been edited by ahpaul82: Dec 6 2009, 01:00 AM
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wheel.
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If at wheel and 12% lost power due to MT the power should equivalent to 132hp at crank rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 5 2009, 10:30 PM)
Nice, how much did they charge you? Notice that the operator didn't dare to rev till revcut.
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RM100.. At first for 3 run they said.. But i can see at least 7 (001-007) file they save in the com.. Can't print, printer kong... Hak3.. So take it with my sister phone...

QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 5 2009, 11:19 PM)
Yeah, the max power is around that (the same also mentioned in the spec) which I think is quite weird, usually power will kept climbing while torque may have drop.

Dyno are done in 1 gear, usually 3rd gear for MT.


Added on December 5, 2009, 11:22 pmMy dyno shows the power drop after 6.5k rpm
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At 3rd gear..

QUOTE(eastwest @ Dec 5 2009, 11:33 PM)
Why max torque only 103? I thought cps engine got 150.

ps: I don't know how to read that thing tongue.gif
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150 ekk... biggrin.gif Me also don't know how to read it, just know max power, max torque they print... tongue.gif

QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 5 2009, 11:42 PM)
Its in different unit 103 ft/lb are around 140NM.
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 6 2009, 12:51 AM)
wheel.
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 6 2009, 12:58 AM)
Stock CPS?
what is your mod?
Not really stock.. Very little mod.. Showed at my signature... blush.gif
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RM100.. At first for 3 run they said.. But i can see at least 7 (001-007) file they save in the com.. Can't print, printer kong... Hak3.. So take it with my sister phone...
At 3rd gear..
150 ekk...  biggrin.gif  Me also don't know how to read it, just know max power, max torque they print... tongue.gif
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Not really stock.. Very little mod.. Showed at my signature... blush.gif
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RM 100 for 7 runs, that cheap. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 6 2009, 10:47 AM)
RM 100 for 7 runs, that cheap. thumbup.gif
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For testing purpose i guess... The last 3 maybe actual run..

Just wanna share, last time we discuss about slip indicator.. (symbol of car slipping).. After dyno the, slip indicator light on.. The guy said it happen because dyno only run front tyre. Ecu 'pening' thinking why only front tyre moving, but rear not.. It light off after 2 minute driving...
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Dec 6 2009, 12:11 PM)
For testing purpose i guess... The last 3 maybe actual run..

Just wanna share, last time we discuss about slip indicator.. (symbol of car slipping).. After dyno the, slip indicator light on.. The guy said it happen because dyno only run front tyre. Ecu 'pening' thinking why only front tyre moving, but rear not.. It light off after 2 minute driving...
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Didn't happen to me.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 6 2009, 01:12 PM)
Didn't happen to me.. hmm.gif
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I done 2 cases (satria neo cps and gen 2 cps). ABS light turn on. It because they do dyno.. The ecu pening i guess.. haha
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I done 2 cases (satria neo cps and gen 2 cps). ABS light turn on. It because they do dyno.. The ecu pening i guess.. haha
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Its a good thing, meaning the warning light is working like it should. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 6 2009, 08:07 PM)
Its a good thing, meaning the warning light is working like it should.  laugh.gif
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biggrin.gif haha... that also consider another good thing. rclxms.gif
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biggrin.gif  haha... that also consider another good thing.  rclxms.gif
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How to fix it? Use the PDT?

Maybe it didn't happen to me since the dyno is 4WD system (cannot remember whether the rear wheel spinning or not).
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 6 2009, 08:17 PM)
How to fix it? Use the PDT?

Maybe it didn't happen to me since the dyno is 4WD system (cannot remember whether the rear wheel spinning or not).
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Use PDT to clear the fault code..

As I know, 4wd system also turn 2 wheel if our is 2 wheel car. Cause is our wheel turn the floor wheel while not the floor wheel turn the wheel. Am i correct? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 6 2009, 08:22 PM)
Use PDT to clear the fault code..

As I know, 4wd system also turn 2 wheel if our is 2 wheel car. Cause is our wheel turn the floor wheel while not the floor wheel turn the wheel. Am i correct?  hmm.gif
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But it should sync the front and rear roller right? Anyway, I also cannot remember clearly the process. Damn, should take video that time.
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 6 2009, 08:35 PM)
But it should sync the front and rear roller right? Anyway, I also cannot remember clearly the process. Damn, should take video that time.
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Not the 4wd dyno can set? mean can set for 2 wheel or 4 wheels? tongue.gif I think the roller only can turn when the wheel turn it. If not, how to count? roller turn and the wheel turn together seem like weird. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 6 2009, 08:17 PM)
How to fix it? Use the PDT?

Maybe it didn't happen to me since the dyno is 4WD system (cannot remember whether the rear wheel spinning or not).
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Me also 4wd dyno machine.. But only used front roller... Pic
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Me also 4wd dyno machine.. But only used front roller... Pic
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Your tail pipe looks kinda small... hmm.gif
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Your tail pipe looks kinda small... hmm.gif
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biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Matola s-flow muffler(1.8" in/out i think).. Love its sound... (Regret not taking video during dyno doh.gif ) After this everco s-flow...
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Dec 6 2009, 10:04 PM)
biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif Matola s-flow muffler(1.8" in/out i think).. Love its sound... (Regret not taking video during dyno doh.gif ) After this everco s-flow...
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