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 ~**Proton CPS club V5**~, ....Calling all CPS owner..buzz..buzz...

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post Nov 16 2009, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 15 2009, 07:50 PM)
140km/h@5th gear is 4k rpm. 110km/h is around 3.1k rpm...
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hey, i just check it out.. When in 5th gear 100kmh, it at 2800rpm while 110kmh is at 3k rpm.

mine is manual gb.

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post Nov 17 2009, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 16 2009, 11:48 PM)
Means that Gen2 got different ratio from Waja although both are cps.
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yes.. different.. The most powerful output of cps engine is on satria neo..

by the way, can add me in waja cps list?

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post Nov 21 2009, 09:46 PM

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For EBD in proton, they have a sensor which calculate all 4 wheels speed. When apply brake, the sensor will sent signal to the brake system and then the system will apply brake pressure according the speed on each 4 wheels. It will balance the braking by supplied sufficient pressure for all 4 wheels and make sure the vehicle will not skid.
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post Nov 22 2009, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 11:28 AM)
Still no CPS for Persona.. thumbup.gif  laugh.gif

I've always wheel spin until the car pulled to the left when launching from standstill at 5k rpm, but no lit icon. hmm.gif
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It wont have the icon light on. If it sometime light on, the sensor can't read the signal. Sometime it will light on when like doing emergency brake or hard corner with sudden apply brake.

QUOTE(pearjar @ Nov 22 2009, 04:03 PM)
If no cover is 'naked', then our cps is 'naked' lah ekk.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif

iafm have 4 coil for spark plug, no distributor... Is it better then 1 coil+distributor as our cps? Cannot use hppc ek..?
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Of course 1 coil one spark plug is better. As our cps using Double Coil. 1 coil 2 spark plugs.
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post Nov 22 2009, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 09:23 PM)
Maybe can ask the SC person to use the PDT to 'test' those icon.
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Sekali test charge Rm65 at SC. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 23 2009, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 11:12 PM)
But SC staff should be able to do it for free...  whistling.gif  brows.gif
More bits size, more mapping point, more variables, more calculation per sec, thus better power and FC (theoretically). hmm.gif
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yeah... that why every week i use PDT to tune my TPS to 100%. But it hard to get 100%.. I tried get 93% only.. If got 100% got tps, it more fun to drive with. hehe.

QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 22 2009, 11:24 PM)
brows.gifbrows.gifbrows.gif
Do you dare to buy?  laugh.gif
Hi singchaii,
i was thinking to remap or retune my ECU,
Which SC you would suggest?  biggrin.gif
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remap or retune ECU can't do in SC. SC didn't provide this service. It only can re-tune back by following original spec and SC wont do this cause it used alot of time. Yours is continental ECU? I can help you modified the VIM to increase better power but fc will increase too.. brows.gif


that day I see some member saying about the TC light on our meter. I take out a waja cps meter and check. It had many icon is not using like safety belt, tc and etc... Proton put that for suka suka. If you wan that light on, install bulb to it. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 23 2009, 04:46 PM)
About the throttle position sensor, is it using potentiometer (variable resistor)? Wanna do some project on that. brows.gif

If you take out the meter panel, please make a photo document of it for members to DIY, maybe can sell them online.  nod.gif
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you mean the potentiometer on the accelerate pedal? What you gonna do on it? I tried alot with it and it not help while some make it worst.. Try tell me what you did and we discuss on it.. I only did modification on VIM on waja cps. It helped alot. biggrin.gif


Added on November 23, 2009, 10:38 pm
QUOTE(eujinee @ Nov 23 2009, 05:06 PM)
i alwiz feel wen my throttle at 70% pressure..is equals to 100% engine power...coz..around 70-100% pedal is equally same.....infact 100% doesnt feel is actually doin 100%..thts y drag usually i keep my pedal around 80% throttle...feel more power as auto gear does slip pretty badly...

and 4th gear is not really at its full 100% engine throttle


Added on November 23, 2009, 5:09 pm
if ur power window doesnt rosak..u r not buying genuine proton..ahhahahhahah
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This is what I doing now. throttle 100% = TPS 100%. If i can get this setting, the car is really fun to drive. My supervisor perdana v6, persona iafm all get this setting. But it used alot of time.

QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 23 2009, 09:26 PM)
juz driven my company persona 1.6A IAFM. got hissing sound like lorry's air filter sucking in air... haha...

power wise still acceptable quite good for auto i should say. more grunt compared to wira's 1.5A. i tested until 170kmh and still stable with a bit of wiggles due to tyres not balanced.

i love the handling. wish my waja can handle as good with the springs a bit hard than now. sigh... btw, i really trash the car.. biggrin.gif hard corner whack kao kao...

100kmh rpm at 2.8k, 110kmh rpm at 3.0k. i think quite fuel saving. done 450kms on RM66 (about 36.7liters). mind you its not yet 1st service... hehe...
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You can. Behind suspension of persona all swap into your waja. You can see the different. My waja cps rear all using persona rear suspension like rear arm, dog bone, link. Persona rear suspension all so solid and thick.. Then, find satria GTi rear stabilizer bar and put into waja. You really can feel the handling improve greatly.

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 23 2009, 10:55 PM)
1st you use a multimeter and get the output voltage for 0% and 100% throttle to the ECU (correct or not, throttle to ecu and then ecu control the TB?). The idea is tu put some sort of amplifier to amplify the signal but the amplifier must also be adjustable, so we can change the 'sharpness' of the throttle.


Added on November 23, 2009, 11:02 pmAnother way is to put a resistor in parallel with the potentiometer. But I need to know the resistance for 0% and 100% throttle.
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Yeah.. throttle -> Ecu ->TB

QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 24 2009, 09:44 AM)
nope ur mitsu blink.gif .....ah paul cannot get ??nvm nvm sweat.gif ....
singchaii where ur location??wanna pay visit to ur place ler...ehh wut u mean by mod the VIM??wut the effect n contra of doing it??share ler abit  brows.gif ...no wonder leh my fren said he use persona suspention..tot he joking hmm.gif ....


Added on November 24, 2009, 9:48 amguys..Raya Haj Tt...hows?eujin..can put the date ker???im not goin anywhere just dont do raya morning to noon bz ler..want cut cut slash the lembu.. laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Suspension for persona/gen 2 is plug and play on a waja. It more thicker.. About the VIM, VIM is short and long length manifold.. So we mod it always use the short length manifold. So the power will increase.

QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 24 2009, 10:13 AM)
well zen..oledi happen..early tis year

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i ask the manager to assig best mec. and he ask the chief mec. to fix it..nice..no scratch at all..wahh jus realise how dark my tint..onli 65% actually..until now..ok..but can c some unbalance abit when winding it down..
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This is the proton edar at pandan jaya right? You stay that area?

QUOTE(loong2020 @ Nov 24 2009, 11:22 AM)
wah....persona rear suspension thicker than waja???.....what about gen2??..since its same with persona chasis... biggrin.gif
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Yes.. Persona rear suspension is more thicker than waja.

QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 24 2009, 04:29 PM)
how much to do the conversion? is it the rear suspension got so much effect on cornering? i just feel the waja wobbles a lot during cornering so thats why i ain't so confident driving it. but with persona, i dare to corner kao kao during my first time driving.. hehe.. talk about dare devil cornering average 120kmh on pagoh roads.. haha..
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Around Rm1k to do that.
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 24 2009, 07:58 PM)
Can you get me the signal (should be in form of voltage values) feed into the ECU using a multimeter?
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Huh.. This is not easy as need to dismantle alot of stuff and find the correct wire to ecu. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 24 2009, 08:36 PM)
Though so.  laugh.gif But this is an interesting project. Can use microcontroller and set 3 predefined setting for eco, normal and sport, and can change between them as we like.
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Oh.. My friend having that device but is for Vtec. sweat.gif This is interesting. Cause I thinking to use that vtec device and mod into our cps.

QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 24 2009, 08:37 PM)
Rm1k inclusive of all items involved and installation? Where would you recommend to do it? I'm also interested on VIM mod? Care to meet for TT?
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VIM mod it need to drill the VIM there and need some time to do.. RM1k is enough but not include the rear GTi anti roll bar. If you interested, i help u check the price and then change at my working SC.
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 24 2009, 09:56 PM)
But need to find the values and which wire to tap 1st. brows.gif
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Don't tap so fast.. Haha.. let me find u the wire is possible.. Wrong tap, ecu kong. Our ecu is continental. Abit fragile. hehe. Actually it not hard to find that wire by using multimeter. Check the continuity. hehe
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 24 2009, 09:58 PM)
i only know the ECU is located somewhere behind the radio. to dismantle it will be like reaching into a very very dark area... shocking.gif
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ecu is beside the clutch pedal. You pull the carpet down and u will able to see it.. Dismantle that ecu need alot of work. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 24 2009, 10:07 PM)
oh.. i only know the PDT connector is there hm... maybe we can start the wire splicing from there... but like wat u said, there is a module for vtec out there already. is it from pivot? so i think we should be able to modify it to fit our purpose.. hehe... brows.gif
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I dun think is from pivot. Hehe...

QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 24 2009, 10:31 PM)
can we instead buy the pdt ourselve ka since we know we to 'cucuk'?
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PDT is so costly. And you can't get the update software for it.

QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 24 2009, 11:03 PM)
singchaii skip my question...
nvm then.
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 25 2009, 10:49 AM)
singchaii, the persona only fit for rear section only is it? front portion cannot use? i would have thought suspension need both front and back to be same set then only will be good to perform...
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Front already good.. Hehe...

QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 25 2009, 01:39 PM)
Can trace the TB wire color code to ECU pin out, and using multimeter to double confirm. Again, removing the ecu take alot of job especially Gen2.
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But you need to see properly. Some colour code is the same. Only the marking is different. if use multimeter, u need extra careful. You might end up blowing out ur air bag.
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QUOTE(terminatorkun @ Nov 25 2009, 07:24 PM)
Hehe...sori noob question....so my gen2 cps need to change with persona rear suspension...or just add satria GTi rear stabilizer bar... hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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no need.. as it same as persona..
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I won the proton contest. Get free handphone. Haha....
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QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Nov 27 2009, 03:54 PM)
That user manual is Gen 2 CPS one? Can buy one kah? How much? From Proton Parts Center @ Glenmarie? Got PDF version ka?  laugh.gif
Staff oso can participate?  tongue.gif Can win sumore...  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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shihhh.... Don't talk so loud. Haha. They should be fair to the one who bought new proton car ma. Haha..
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So many cps users here, i wonder you all know cps work? hehe..
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Nov 28 2009, 11:25 AM)
i dont hear 'tick' sound at all after 3.8k rpm ... tried many times

only 2.8k rpm @ 3rd gear got sudden power force
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if there is no tick sound, then you will feel a slightly jerking. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 1 2009, 07:21 PM)
incomplete meh?
at least i can find more info about the LCD Display (Odometer/Trimeter)  wink.gif
hmm... top up another few hundreds can get hotbits full set exhaust already...  blush.gif
In other forum,
they suggest 10W-30 engine oil for CPS Engine ...  blink.gif
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For cps engine, it requirement for 10w-30 or 10w-40. If you use mineral, the hydraulic tappet adjustment will jam. If use fully, the engine will have loud tappet sound and for few years, you will see engine oil leaking at oil seal.
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 1 2009, 08:18 PM)
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then the suitable engine oil for CPS Engine would be 10W-30 or 10W-40 Semi Syn??  laugh.gif

i was tempting to try 5W-30 or 10W-30 Fully Syn engine oil for my next service...  sweat.gif

some CPS users claimed that using 10W-30 engine oil will make the engine sound more rough...  hmm.gif
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mean 10w-40 or 10w-30 still can... You try 10-w40. You can feel the different.

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