Well, if according to cronological order it was from Supervisor -> Sen Supervisor -> Executive -> Manager. There was no executive in the Dept until I was promoted. When I was promoted to Manager Level, my manager was actually asked to take over the Testing Lab operations while I took over the whole QC Dept.

@august.decision
Its part of life. You are going to have to deal with it. Many companies are like that and I have been in such company's and I left.

To me, since you have a family, you should be thinking this way. How will it help your family in the future if you continue to stay in your current job? Would you not like to provide a better living for your family? Not sure how old are your children, but based on your current earnings, when your children pursue's their tertiary education, you are going to be in a pinch even if you send them to local uni / college

well....just want to congrate u...so lucky to hv the opportunity!!

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@august.decision
I wouldnt state how much you will need as each family has different needs. I read a survey before. Average surveys shows that the cost to raise a kid from 0 - 18 years old cost approximately 500k. You do the math.

To me, why not try to lessen the burden of your husband ? If you are hesitant to leave the company why not try to do some part time / side income since you are able to leave work fairly early. Usually (in olden times), it is the head of the house that is responsible to feed the family, however, if the partner can help reduce the burden, why not?

I'll put my family's income here and you can judge. My family earns RM20k++ monthly with 4 children. My parents are NOW enjoying life (55 years old. They are still working but less worries now cause 3 out of 4 is working already). But before they reached this age, especially when they were 40+ .. they worked really hard to ensure all of us were provided tertiary education.

All of us took PTPTN loan and we were sent to local university's FYI. I had an above average life but please do not mistake us as having a luxurious life. My house consist of protons and peroduas only. NO IMPORTED CARS.

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@august.decision
Opening a kisok at shopping center n letting other people handle. First of all do you have experience in such things? If no then why wanan take the risk of letting other ppl run it ? I rather choose to do it fulltime.

Either way the decision of whether to advance or not is up to you.

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This post has been edited by august.decision: Mar 5 2011, 09:42 AM

then u seriously lack the business mind.

This is exactly why we have alot of kiosks in mall with inattentive sales personnel.

My mom started her business with a kiosk, with the help of my sister.

Estimation gross profit is about 10-20k per month...

Then...expansion...

Now...2 shops with most of the stocks belong to herself...

@august.decision

How do you know you are going to make a profit? Most businesses make losses.

yep...i have no business experience...
sometime i think of many business take profit too much by selling thing too high in price....

sometime i think like cheat people money with selling thing with high % of profit....forgive me for my naive mindset

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Added on March 2, 2011, 5:19 pmThat i can't tell u know...even myself dono what is the outcome....it is also risk involved...just like changing job too.....involve risk...

This post has been edited by august.decision: Mar 2 2011, 05:22 PM

Age: 27/28
Job Description : Oil and gas consultancy
Years spent in company : 4years+
Company : MNC
Industry : Oil and Gas
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : Fresh grad
Education Level : Degree
Current Salary : RM 9.7k (Bonus included)
Benefits: Medical/Dental RM2K
Annual leave carry forward and/or sell-off
Working hours : Mon-Fri (Flexi-Hours)

u are very lucky....i think ur are very good too

Bravo! Pandai!
What is your basic salary before considering the bonus?
Upstream/downstream?
What is your role?

I think u r very good.

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Added on March 3, 2011, 10:12 amAgree agree agree...on the hardship working in OnG.

Stressful, tight schedule, long working hours, big resposibility, heavy burden.... no life.....

Sometimes want to go crazy, breakdown, want to cry but cant stop because its very competitive. Once u stop peforming, there are at least 3 candidates waiting to fill up your position....

The trick done by employer is pay you not very high but not very low.... u r so stuck, no other company can offer you significant better salary... so u dont dare to jump ship.... very stuck.

This post has been edited by johnrck99: Mar 3 2011, 10:12 AM

Age : 22
Job Title : PHP Programmer
Job Desciption : Develop web application for clients
Years spent in company : 3 months
Company : A small IT house
Tenure : permanent
Experience before joining : None
salary : RM 1900
Education Level : Diploma in Computer Studies

This post has been edited by xbbshampoo: Mar 3 2011, 10:18 AM

@xbbshampoo
you could do better. ISS Consulting's subsidiary?

nope, just a small IT company that help client design website and develop website application.

is my pay too low ?

i believe as a diploma holder that is what you can get currently...

only after a year or two u can start requesting what a degree holder would get.

If you are smart wise, you may even shorten the period.

Stressful, tight schedule, long working hours, big resposibility, heavy burden.... no life.....

Sometimes want to go crazy, breakdown, want to cry but cant stop because its very competitive. Once u stop peforming, there are at least 3 candidates waiting to fill up your position....

The trick done by employer is pay you not very high but not very low.... u r so stuck, no other company can offer you significant better salary... so u dont dare to jump ship.... very stuck.

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Are u sure it is stressful? my uncle and my elder brother are working in OnG industry, and they seems quite happy, work 2 weeks, subsequent 2weeks will be their holiday. Isn't that nice?

Job Title : Operation Assisstant
Job Desciption : Purchasing, In/Out stock, Import/Export, monitoring operation...etc regarding operations
Years spent in company : 8 months+
Company : Local Camera Wholesaler
Industry : Camera / Warehouse
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Not really sure.. working under my boss which is the director of the company, and clerk under me.
Experience before joining : Fresh Grad/1st job as sales coordinator, this is the 2nd job
salary : RM 2300 nett


Im new here which attracted by this post ^^

This post has been edited by LeoWillis: Mar 3 2011, 11:36 AM

@ju146
I think that is only applicable to offshore workers in the OnG. Normal office related ones are kinda stressful otherwise they wont give u such high pay.