guys, my car is 2001 4G18P waja, lately, my ride had one big problem, when the car start in the morning, i will let it warm up for about near 1 minute, then shift my auto gear into R to reverse n go out, but, the horrible thing is, just right after i shifted the gear in, the engine died on the spot. So, i need to restart it again n sometimes i nid to repeat it twice in order to let the car run. At first, i thought this will happen early in the morning, but, same thing happened in the afternoon when i wan to start the car during my lunch break. Any one hav any idea what happen to my car? i've jes changed my plugs not more than a year n i dun think its spark plugs problem. does anyone here facing the same problem too? any solution? pls help

This post has been edited by alworks: Nov 28 2009, 11:44 PM

fuel pump gonna kong....be prepare.....i got the same symptom for 10000km+++...before the pump totally kong.... ...same symptom like urs...morning start engine, shift gear..engine stall....have to start and let it idle for few mins...otherwise will stall again..or need to press pedal to maintain rev...or otherwise is tuning out/throttle body out....but im just sharing my experience.....how much is ur mileage now??..my fuel pump kong around 103k....7years..4g18

err...my mileage around 60k plus.......although its 2001 model, but my car seldom drive long journey......tats y the mileage stil low...btw bro, mind to tell me if wan to fix this problem nid to spend how much on it? how much the fuel pump n everything necessary needs? i think i nid to change the timing belt as well...sigh.......

what is your idle RPM? make sure you warm up until it's idle. otherwise check the throttle body, maybe it's just needed some cleaning. check your plugs, coil and cables too.
i would not worry much on the fuel pump until it's really faulty. my 2003 waja fuel pump still running fine, and it already clock 220k km.

thanks man, eh btw i was reading thru old posts in http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/900200/+260 , our senior brother Yngwie said our wajas need to be revved and maintained at 3.5k rpm to achieve optimum FC. sure mou? i always keep at 2.3 - 2.5k rpm, coz i tot uncle-style driving will improve FC

the campro waja, yes. for the mitsu ones, should be just around 2.7k max.

samat hari raye to all..

new waja 2010? really?

Bro, 2.7k max? Hmm then i think my 4g18 got prolem kot.. Coz b4 with my stock rim for RM85 i get 450Km.. Now with 17" rim, definitely lower than 450km..

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Added on November 29, 2009, 11:54 amSlamat Hari Raye to all too..

This post has been edited by roxx: Nov 29 2009, 11:54 AM

i think it's our driving skills la. currently i am also getting around 450km ++ for RM 85. and mine's a CPS, yo! may i ask u, wat oil u using? 10w30 mineral?

wah...then i dont think its fuel pump..la...since ur mileage is so low....8years car....but i couldnt confirm with you..la....maybe bro zaidi said might be throttle body dirty, or cables like he mentioned.....but the what i experienced was totally same as urs.... morning start up...then when shift to R/D..the engine stall right??...if fuel pump..i replaced mine around RM370....

I think you must understand what flushing does to your gearbox. Don't judge without understand it. Flushing gearbox just to clear out the old atf completely & replace with new atf. It won't effect oil seal or whatever. We must understand that the gearbox will keep a lot old atf if just changing it. FYI A lot foremen recommend 40k km interval change for atf, Yes it is if changing atf using machine, only 20k km if without machine. Somemore don't simply use other atf to your gearbox cos it may cause your GB say bb. This is my own experience, e.g Wa.. toyota atf sure very good because got well known fame in the world. Then its wrong, proton GB & Toyota had different build up spec, so better stick back to proton original atf.
For your friend's case, its wear & tear symptom nth goes with flushing. Hope this will help you guys

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Added on November 29, 2009, 1:20 pmMy foremen recommend me to use 10w 40 semi-synthetic for 4G18. Car feel lighter. U know how the FC if your car become lighter Anyway my car FC RM94 can run 535km.

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Added on November 29, 2009, 1:26 pmalworks, is it your fuel tank always at empty? If yes, it maybe fuel pump failure symptom.

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Added on November 29, 2009, 1:33 pmIs it the silver & black Proton Logo? I got 1 seller selling at Rm25 each. Still thinking wanna change or not cos just like wasting money.

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Added on November 29, 2009, 1:36 pmYou can't clear atf completely if just draining it.... Flush = clear the atf completely... This is what I see my foremen did when he flushing my gearbox.

This post has been edited by swk_sam: Nov 29 2009, 01:51 PM

Most probably due to dirty Fuel Injectors. I faced it before as mine was hitting more than 130k++ mileage and after trying some fuel injector cleaner which just pour into your fuel system , it seems to back to normal. Maybe you can try out. There's few brand at around Eleven bucks , STP at twenty to thirty plus and red line at fourty plus. It's your choice after all.

I'm not sure if it's something to do with the Fuel pump though as I haven't change mine before.

swk_sam : Is those original Emblem your friend selling ? If it's replica goods , some of them even mention they bought it from brothers for below twenty bucks a set.

Yup i think it's due to my heavy foot.. i'm using 10w 40-semi synt..

sam, car feel lighter? got any difference meh? i don't feel like it..

Am really puzzled how you guys, I mean campro and 4G18 owners, auto and manual can get at least 500kms till empty. My campro auto can only give me a max of 430, thats with the fuel light on since 380kms. The max I ever reached on my campro is only 500kms on the highway. Any ideas?

campro fc is higher than 4g18.......try revving up to 3500rpm for 1st gear then 2000rpm for 2nd,3rd.....

yaya, don't sayang your engine too much. you have to rough it out, like how you rough your wife/gf. only then they will unleash the animal within

agree...

I'm good at it..

i mean.... revving my car..

just finish calculating my waja's FC yesterday. 5 full tank refill, ~70% city driving. averaging 12.1km/liter, on 4g18 manual.using Esso RON95 for the time being. never rev beyond 3k line.is it okay,guys?

wow. that's very good. mine's a CPS, about 70% city, averaging 10.2km/liter, using petronas primax 95.

eh u using wat wheel size? 195/55R15?

then engine oil leh? fully synthetic ar?