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 Mar 1 2010, 12:56 AM
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Mar 10 2010, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 28 2010, 12:34 AM) these things should be done in med schools, not service gov hospitals......... dude, i agree with u there, but what's the scope of power does a houseman / intern has in msia? coz over in Aussie, an intern should always run a pt through with a senior personnel, be it a resident, a registrar / specialist trainee, or the specialist...so no actual decision is being made by the intern, however the intern must have had all the info at hand alrdy prior to discussing it with a senior person, info like History, Examination findings, probable investigations and next step managemnt....so it is just like having a senior person to agree with what u've done, and if they disagree, will tweak it...ie ask for some missing info that might have been missed from the Hx / Ex due to inexperience, or change some of the investigations and management...it is not the job of busy service orientated gov hospitals and staffs to re-run med schools all over again for these people......how to take history, exam patients, which investigations are relevant (some just order everything for all patients, so they don't get scolded!).....service needs to be provided, and lives are at stake....... in any case, if the basics are not there, one cannot 'mentor' them to the next level......... oh well, i guess people will not understand the dilemma and difficulties unless one actually is working in that environment.......and the people on the ground just bypass the problem as they have no time for this, they just pile more responsibility on those who can function, and sideline those who cannot....... finally, it appears that the blame for doctors who should not have gone to med school, are poorly trained and become non functional junior doctors, has now shifted to seniors doctors.........for not helping them become competent.......!!  jsut wanted to know if the interns in Msia make these calls or do they need a green-light from a senior person like in Aus? btw Starghazzer! r u an intern now in Aus?! still in Melbourne? which hospital?!?!  |
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Mar 12 2010, 11:24 PM
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Hey guys. Curious , anyone took the mmc examination?
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Mar 12 2010, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(NatBass @ Mar 12 2010, 11:24 PM) Hey guys. Curious , anyone took the mmc examination? You're persistent about going to Romania is it?I've read your last post about this. |
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Mar 13 2010, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Mar 12 2010, 11:31 PM) You're persistent about going to Romania is it? No , its not like that. I just wanna know more about the mmc examination. I;ve got a few seniors who scored straight a and they are pursuing medicine in russia/romania/cuba. As far as i know cuba and romania are listed under the mmc board. But yes , i know its not advice to study at a uni which is approved by the board.I've read your last post about this. |
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Mar 13 2010, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE(NatBass @ Mar 13 2010, 12:42 AM) No , its not like that. I just wanna know more about the mmc examination. I;ve got a few seniors who scored straight a and they are pursuing medicine in russia/romania/cuba. As far as i know cuba and romania are listed under the mmc board. But yes , i know its not advice to study at a uni which is approved by the board. No Cuban or Romanian Medical Degrees are recognized by the Malaysian Medical Council. You should read thoroughly the list of recognized Universities in MMC's website. Why would one want to go an unrecognized foreign University to study medicine, when there are literally hundreds of recognized foreign Universities already listed in the MMC's list and even now more than 14+ private medical schools in Malaysia? Tell me the reason for this. |
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Mar 13 2010, 01:51 AM
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not qualified to get into the recognised ones..........
not enough money for the recognised ones......... easier to pass in some of the unrecognised ones......... did i miss anything?......... |
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Mar 13 2010, 02:24 AM
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heard from friends/relatives/agents that many have successfully passed MMC exams and now practicing as specialist!!!
thinking of taking USMLE and migrate to US. no more malaysian!!! |
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Mar 13 2010, 02:36 AM
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Easier to pass? That im not sure.
The price in romania is about 180k. Qualification is secondary , The b4 rule still apply. But you know malaysia , i know people who obtained 2c (admath bio) doing med. Anything is possible Mostly people do @ europe so that they can work in EU i guess. Finally , someone answered my question without crap. Wgy , you doing medic too? where? and whats USMLE? Probably the unrecognized uni is the international passport to get out of MY and work elsewhere?  |
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Mar 13 2010, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(NatBass @ Mar 13 2010, 02:36 AM) Probably the unrecognized uni is the international passport to get out of MY and work elsewhere? |
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Mar 15 2010, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Jan 26 2010, 07:18 PM) Most of the group of 8 in Aus are changing to graduate entry. Think UWA will be doing that soon (well, we heard news of that happening next year but not sure yet). Need a ballpark figure...how much does it cost to do medicine in Australia currently? Our budget is a very tight RM800K. I understand for some universities, the fees are higher in the last couple of years, correct me if I am wrong. Would appreciate any feedback, thanks in advance.In Aus, you'll needa go through GAMSAT, an interview, and you'll need to ace your first degree. =) I'm not sure but people tell me that it's harder to get in the MBBS program using graduate entry compared to direct entry, unless of course the uni doesn't provide a direct entry (from year 12/Alvl etc). I remembered them telling me that a lot of students who opted to go into medicine after their year 12, gave up or just can't follow up with the course. So, the uni is changing towards graduate entry medicine because they feel that graduates are more mature and they know what they want in life. Added on March 15, 2010, 10:20 pm QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 26 2010, 09:04 PM) these have relatively small intakes, less than 100 per uni, except for aimst, with 200/year.....the REAL numbers comes (and will continue to come) from russia and ukraine........about 1000+/year for the next few years.......with current intake, that will continue for the foreseeable future, unless msia stop recognition........... So basically, throw one stone, and hit a few docs? Gosh, that's a dismal scenario!!there is absolutely NO control over who and how many become doctors in msia at the moment.........it is a free for all........ This post has been edited by podrunner: Mar 15 2010, 10:20 PM |
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Mar 24 2010, 03:19 PM
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hello!! final year from IMU=)
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Mar 25 2010, 01:32 PM
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Apr 7 2010, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(NatBass @ Mar 13 2010, 02:36 AM) Easier to pass? That im not sure. its an abbreviation for the united states medical licensing examination.The price in romania is about 180k. Qualification is secondary , The b4 rule still apply. But you know malaysia , i know people who obtained 2c (admath bio) doing med. Anything is possible Mostly people do @ europe so that they can work in EU i guess. Finally , someone answered my question without crap. Wgy , you doing medic too? where? and whats USMLE? Probably the unrecognized uni is the international passport to get out of MY and work elsewhere? it is required for training and practicing in the us and its broken down to 3 steps. med students with clinical knowledge are legible to sit for the first step. wanted to sit for the exam for a while now bt can't seem to find the time. |
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Apr 7 2010, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Mar 15 2010, 10:15 PM) Need a ballpark figure...how much does it cost to do medicine in Australia currently? Our budget is a very tight RM800K. I understand for some universities, the fees are higher in the last couple of years, correct me if I am wrong. Would appreciate any feedback, thanks in advance. Think the cheapest would be in UTASAdded on March 15, 2010, 10:20 pm So basically, throw one stone, and hit a few docs? Gosh, that's a dismal scenario!! 5 years, and 40k per year in 2011, so making it 200k$x3=RM600k in tuition fee Adding living cost of 10k$ per year, making it 5x10k$x3=RM150k. So you can make it with around RM750k. Other G8 offering med are charging you about 42-44k per year for 6 years. So yeah, that's what most of the international students here will tell you: it's cheaper than other unis in Aus. Quality wise i'm not complaining. I'm enjoying the course and the lecturers are very motivated in their fields. This post has been edited by onelove89: Apr 7 2010, 06:24 PM |
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Apr 7 2010, 07:28 PM
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30 House Officers in the Medical ward in GHKL....some other hospitals have 20-40 house officers in a ward.
How to survive when we come out? I'm graduating 2011..hopefully. No regulations by the authorities AT ALL. What. The. Heck. |
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Apr 7 2010, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(seiken @ Apr 7 2010, 07:28 PM) 30 House Officers in the Medical ward in GHKL....some other hospitals have 20-40 house officers in a ward. Go to Sabah and Sarawak then for your housemanship......How to survive when we come out? I'm graduating 2011..hopefully. No regulations by the authorities AT ALL. What. The. Heck. |
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Apr 7 2010, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(seiken @ Apr 7 2010, 07:28 PM) 30 House Officers in the Medical ward in GHKL....some other hospitals have 20-40 house officers in a ward. yea...housemen no training at all...How to survive when we come out? I'm graduating 2011..hopefully. No regulations by the authorities AT ALL. What. The. Heck. |
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Apr 7 2010, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Apr 7 2010, 07:52 PM) Go to Sabah and Sarawak then for your housemanship...... sorry to disappoint you, they are also full of housemans.............kuching has at one point 200.......welcome to bolehland....... |
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Apr 8 2010, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Apr 7 2010, 10:59 PM) sorry to disappoint you, they are also full of housemans.............kuching has at one point 200....... Yeah, I heard there was up to 40 house officers in a ward...welcome to bolehland....... |
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