yaya...my senior all using lttman...classic II i think.....but i not sure where to get..because they get from an agent last time... XD

Not yet, but going to, if everything goes well

The 1% Mara thingy, that's what I've heard as well. Sounds really unfair, especially since that puny amount can be repaid in a glimpse of an eye if you're working overseas. Oh bugger... M'sia boleh, apa pun boleh.

IMO, classic II is good enough for a student.
The cardio steth price is a bit off the roof??

these things should be done in med schools, not service gov hospitals.........

it is not the job of busy service orientated gov hospitals and staffs to re-run med schools all over again for these people......how to take history, exam patients, which investigations are relevant (some just order everything for all patients, so they don't get scolded!).....service needs to be provided, and lives are at stake.......

in any case, if the basics are not there, one cannot 'mentor' them to the next level.........

oh well, i guess people will not understand the dilemma and difficulties unless one actually is working in that environment.......and the people on the ground just bypass the problem as they have no time for this, they just pile more responsibility on those who can function, and sideline those who cannot.......

finally, it appears that the blame for doctors who should not have gone to med school, are poorly trained and become non functional junior doctors, has now shifted to seniors doctors.........for not helping them become competent.......!!