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post Dec 3 2009, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(tracktion3 @ Dec 3 2009, 01:08 PM)
My friend Philips 3000 can't play some BD. But once he updated the firmware it works.

Same with BD60 and Sony. Thats the whole idea we need to update firmware. BD is still in infant stage. Many unknown problem could occur especially those special features in the BD.

But BD60 is one of the best in playing DVD upscalling to 1080p. I chose that over Sony because of this and because we still got a lot of ahem type of DVD in the market.
Btw, got pirate BD meh? Those are DVD in disguise isnt it?... ha ha ha ha
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FYI, pirate 25GB BD is already available long time ago in Malaysia. In China mainland 50GB direct copy BD also available, just the matter if you got jalan whistling.gif

This post has been edited by geforce1999: Dec 3 2009, 01:58 PM
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post Dec 3 2009, 02:58 PM

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S350 & 360 both can upscale pretty well too..
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post Dec 3 2009, 09:03 PM

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My Phillip BDP3000/98 plays all my BDs fine but I just got two dissatisfaction

1) It can't play my GI Joe Disc 2 mad.gif

2) I also use it to watch movies that I downloaded from the net avi format plays fine including the subtitles BUT MP4 format the picture plays with no sound vmad.gif

I chose it over BD60 and BD360 because the salesman told me, it is the only player that supports internet movies doh.gif

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QUOTE(nazmanson @ Dec 3 2009, 09:03 PM)
My Phillip BDP3000/98 plays all my BDs fine but I just got two dissatisfaction

1) It can't play my GI Joe Disc 2  mad.gif

2) I also use it to watch movies that I downloaded from the net avi format plays fine including the subtitles BUT MP4 format the picture plays with no sound  vmad.gif

I chose it over BD60 and BD360 because the salesman told me, it is the only player that supports internet movies  doh.gif
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GI Joe disc 2 is digital copy... dont think it able to play on the BD player
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post Dec 3 2009, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(nazmanson @ Dec 3 2009, 09:03 PM)
My Phillip BDP3000/98 plays all my BDs fine but I just got two dissatisfaction

1) It can't play my GI Joe Disc 2  mad.gif

2) I also use it to watch movies that I downloaded from the net avi format plays fine including the subtitles BUT MP4 format the picture plays with no sound  vmad.gif

I chose it over BD60 and BD360 because the salesman told me, it is the only player that supports internet movies  doh.gif
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1. Why lah cannot play ur GI Joe Disc 2? Any error messages on the screen?

2. Yup, so far the most compatible format is AVI. I have tonnes of HDrip movies d/loaded from the net and most of them are in mkv. I use WDTV for this mostly.

3. I'm sure future firmware updates will be able to support more movie format later. Have u updated to the latest firmware yet?
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QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Dec 3 2009, 01:28 PM)
FYI, pirate 25GB BD is already available long time ago in Malaysia.  In China mainland 50GB direct copy BD also available, just the matter if you got jalan  whistling.gif
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oh really kah.... shocking.gif

I've never seen a 25G BD pirates... it could be expensive too?

China has a version that selling around RM40. But some BD played with quality problem. And it is not even a pirate? or it is? I've no idea.....

It looks to me those are HD 720p niah...

This post has been edited by tracktion3: Dec 3 2009, 09:23 PM
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post Dec 3 2009, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Dec 3 2009, 09:08 PM)
GI Joe disc 2 is digital copy... dont think it able to play on the BD player
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Yup digital copy but with Special Features...amazingly it plays well with my DVD player


QUOTE(petrofsky77 @ Dec 3 2009, 09:11 PM)
1. Why lah cannot play ur GI Joe Disc 2? Any error messages on the screen?

2. Yup, so far the most compatible format is AVI. I have tonnes of HDrip movies d/loaded from the net and most of them are in mkv. I use WDTV for this mostly.

3. I'm sure future firmware updates will be able to support more movie format later. Have u updated to the latest firmware yet?
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1. Nope just quiet

2. WDTV was planning to get it before but I always burn my movies into DVDR easier for me to keep moreover my BD player is cheap one

3. Last time I updated was last month, haven't check yet for newer updates.

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post Dec 3 2009, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(tracktion3 @ Dec 3 2009, 09:15 PM)
oh really kah.... shocking.gif

I've never seen a 25G BD pirates... it could be expensive too?

China has a version that selling around RM40. But some BD played with quality problem. And it is not even a pirate? or it is? I've no idea.....

It looks to me those are HD 720p niah...
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Long time available already. But quite a number can't play on the BD60. But then those that I managed to play on the BD60 I couldn't tell the diff compared with the orginal. Just some Audio options and features missing to fit into 25GB disc.

Price is RM40/- at some places.


Added on December 3, 2009, 11:53 pm
QUOTE(klimal @ Dec 3 2009, 01:07 PM)
Nwebie question.
What is the difference between the philips BDP3000 and 3008.
I checked the specs and they appear the same.
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They are the same , just the 3008 slightly heavier. Don't know why though.


Added on December 3, 2009, 11:56 pm
QUOTE(tracktion3 @ Dec 3 2009, 01:08 PM)
My friend Philips 3000 can't play some BD. But once he updated the firmware it works.

Same with BD60 and Sony. Thats the whole idea we need to update firmware. BD is still in infant stage. Many unknown problem could occur especially those special features in the BD.

But BD60 is one of the best in playing DVD upscalling to 1080p. I chose that over Sony because of this and because we still got a lot of ahem type of DVD in the market.
Btw, got pirate BD meh? Those are DVD in disguise isnt it?... ha ha ha ha
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No lah you are mistaking those fake DVD9 blu-ray with those BD-R blu-ray 25GB. For BD60 updating to newest firmware also won't help in better playability of BD-Rs. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by Ngto: Dec 3 2009, 11:59 PM
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post Dec 4 2009, 01:59 AM

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DVD dual layer 8.5GB can be authored to be BD9 format... making some BDPs believe it's actually a BD and play it...

and then you have your BDR 25GB as well..


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QUOTE(Ngto @ Dec 3 2009, 11:50 PM)
Long time available already. But quite a number can't play on the BD60. But then those that I managed to play on the BD60 I couldn't tell the diff compared with the orginal. Just some Audio options and features  missing to fit into 25GB disc.

Price is RM40/- at some places.


Added on December 3, 2009, 11:53 pm
They are the same , just the 3008 slightly heavier. Don't know why though.


Added on December 3, 2009, 11:56 pm
No lah you are mistaking those fake DVD9 blu-ray with those BD-R blu-ray 25GB. For BD60 updating to newest firmware also won't help in better playability of BD-Rs. biggrin.gif
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So is BD-R. Hmmm dont think the quality will be in par. For that kind of BD, I rather buy a DVD for RM4... ha ha ha

I don't think I'm going to spend RM40 for a fake vs Ori. Many of our friends here selling lower than 100 vs what speedy is selling. Some even rm60-rm70. I think, that is good enough. smile.gif

But I'm trying to improve by not buying pirates anymore..... smile.gif Is so hard not too though. tongue.gif


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post Dec 4 2009, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(tracktion3 @ Dec 3 2009, 09:15 PM)
oh really kah.... shocking.gif

I've never seen a 25G BD pirates... it could be expensive too?

China has a version that selling around RM40. But some BD played with quality problem. And it is not even a pirate? or it is? I've no idea.....

It looks to me those are HD 720p niah...
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25GB BD pirate is selling around RM48 locally if not mistaken. Never bought any locally unless the original is 25G, else it will be compromised to loose some PQ or SQ to be squeezed the content in 25GB...

I have got some exact duplicate of BD-R copies from China via a friend previously. Meaning the copies are same size as original, be it 50GB or 25GB. So far I have no problem on playing them on my PS3. thumbup.gif


Added on December 4, 2009, 9:59 am25GB for around RM13 and 50GB for around RM40, I think it is a steal, at least for me tongue.gif

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post Dec 4 2009, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Dec 3 2009, 11:50 PM)
They are the same , just the 3008 slightly heavier. Don't know why though.
Could it be no 8 is a few grams heavier than no 0.. ?? whistling.gif whistling.gif biggrin.gif


Added on December 4, 2009, 10:34 am
QUOTE(Ngto @ Dec 3 2009, 11:50 PM)
No lah you are mistaking those fake DVD9 blu-ray with those BD-R blu-ray 25GB. For BD60 updating to newest firmware also won't help in better playability of BD-Rs. biggrin.gif
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Could it be the lens sensitivity rather than firmwares?

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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Dec 4 2009, 10:32 AM)
Could it be no 8 is a few grams heavier than no 0.. ??  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  biggrin.gif


Added on December 4, 2009, 10:34 am

Could it be the lens sensitivity rather than firmwares?
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A few possibliities, but don't think that lens is a major problem.

Reason is when those discs that can't play on BD60 , they happen only when you play the main movie. Everything will start up fine, menus everything , you can even play their special features etc.

But the moment you press play , the player kicks out back to the menu or something like that. Selecting by chapters also the same thing.

Just a wild guess, maybe those BD-R still got some sort region codes that the BD-60 reject . Could be those movies not from Region A. The BD60 btw is a Reg A player and is not region free. But like I said it's just a wild guess, nothing more.


Added on December 4, 2009, 1:11 pm
QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Dec 4 2009, 09:35 AM)
25GB BD pirate is selling around RM48 locally if not mistaken. Never bought any locally unless the original is 25G, else it will be compromised to loose some PQ or SQ to be squeezed the content in 25GB... 

I have got some exact duplicate of BD-R copies from China via a friend previously.  Meaning the copies are same size as original, be it 50GB or 25GB.  So far I have no problem on playing them on my PS3. thumbup.gif


Added on December 4, 2009, 9:59 am25GB for around RM13 and 50GB for around RM40, I think it is a steal, at least for me tongue.gif
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Now 25GB already RM8/- cheaper (RM40 now) , if you know where biggrin.gif

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Is it confirm that the size is 25GB? Has anyone check it?

As ar188 pointed out :

DVD dual layer 8.5GB can be authored to be BD9 format... making some BDPs believe it's actually a BD and play it...

and then you have your BDR 25GB as well..

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 4 2009, 01:35 PM)
Is it confirm that the size is 25GB? Has anyone check it?

As ar188 pointed out :

DVD dual layer 8.5GB can be authored to be BD9 format... making some BDPs believe it's actually a BD and play it...

and then you have your BDR 25GB as well..
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You look at the colour of BD-R and you will know. The surface is almost Black in colour. The disc will never be able be read by a DVD drive (without saying smile.gif ). And then there is also the HD audio.

On another note, If original Blu-ray 50GB disc has only 30GB of data (all of them are not normally filled to the max) and by taking out certain features , the size can be reduced to 25GB and below, then you will get the same quality (or maybe almost the same) when coverting to the BD-R 25GB.

I got a handful of BD-R for testing (one of then "Knowing", Nicholas Cage) and compared with a rented Original from ToraTora and I couldn't make out the diff between Video and Audio. (not side by side comparison though) . The BD-R had the DTS-MA track as well.

But since you guys have High End systems, maybe you could test it out and see if the differences are obvious.

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Dec 4 2009, 01:40 PM)
You look at the colour of BD-R and you will know. The surface is almost Black in colour. The disc will never be able be read by a DVD drive (without saying  smile.gif ). And then there is also the HD audio.

On another note, If original Blu-ray 50GB disc  has only 30GB of data (all of them are not normally filled to the max) and by taking out certain features , the size can be reduced to 25GB and below, then you will get the same quality (or maybe almost the same) when coverting to the BD-R 25GB.
I got a handful of BD-R for testing (one of then "Knowing", Nicholas Cage) and compared with a rented Original from ToraTora and I couldn't make out the diff between Video and Audio. (not side by side comparison though) . The BD-R had the DTS-MA track as well.

But since you guys have High End Audio systems, maybe you could test it out and see if  the differences are obvious.
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Yes, to a certain extent. However, most of the movies that I have got are in the range of 40GB. That's quite a massive compression being done to cramp it into 25GB BD. If it is indeed 25GB BD-R for RM8, it's dirt cheap. Then again, won't be buying.

On the 2nd highlighted statement, ain't me sweat.gif But, still willing to test it out of curiosity blush.gif .

Btw, I haven't try out any Unc Ho ver BD with my BD60.

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I have tried some Uncle Ho BD25s and even in my peasent system, the picture quality wasn't as impressive as the original. I tested out Wanted and Hart's War.

Hart's War was pretty decent but Wanted PQ looked like it had some sort of noise reduction done on it. Neva tried the ori so my comments arent really conclusive.

Oh ya, I could access the BD-Live features for it as well but I cant remember for which movie it was
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 4 2009, 02:05 PM)
Yes, to a certain extent. However, most of the movies that I have got are in the range of 40GB. That's quite a massive compression being done to cramp it into 25GB BD. If it is indeed 25GB BD-R for RM8, it's dirt cheap. Then again, won't be buying.

On the 2nd highlighted statement, ain't me  sweat.gif   But, still willing to test it out of curiosity  blush.gif .

Btw, I haven't try out any Unc Ho ver BD with my BD60.
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Yes, I understand , those titles that are already huge in Original disc, won't be so appealing on BD-R.

Haha I said price cheaper BY RM8/- (RM48 before , now RM40 certain places). I didn't say price is RM8/- biggrin.gif . Uncle HO BD-R and BD-60 bad combination shakehead.gif

I could just lend you the 'Knowing' disc for you to satisfy your curiosity. PM me smile.gif .

Gotta go, late for appointment with someone.



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QUOTE(Ngto @ Dec 4 2009, 02:27 PM)

I could just lend you the 'Knowing' disc for you to satisfy your curiosity. PM me  smile.gif .
knowing more about "knowing" unker ho is good.. biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wackojacko @ Dec 4 2009, 02:22 PM)
I have tried some Uncle Ho BD25s and even in my peasent system, the picture quality wasn't as impressive as the original. I tested out Wanted and Hart's War.

Hart's War was pretty decent but Wanted PQ looked like it had some sort of noise reduction done on it. Neva tried the ori so my comments arent really conclusive.

Oh ya, I could access the BD-Live features for it as well but I cant remember for which movie it was
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