you sure sounds like someone who got alot of bad blood.. couple with small gas.. sounds like you have a wenkel engine there!!

And you sound like someone who lack common sense, couple with need for attention....to have to keep spamming unworthy attempt to troll me into a flame war (which i'll probably cream you) which i'll hve to politely decline. dont spoil the thread dude.


Sorry TS noob13..i'm outa here.

you're not creamin me with your jizz, right? i sked!!!

Yes sherlock, and having 2 healthy legs makes it easier to walk. Exactly what is the value in that statement? What if your legs are unhealthy, or you're handicapped somehow, how do you deal with it? How do you make yourself better within your limitations? What is it that drives these people to success despite their handicap?

Whether its about career, love, relationships, health etc. The same basic drive exists in everyone that is successful. You look at unattractive couplings, and you think "exceptions". I look at it, and I see the same inner quality that exists in successful people. To me its not an exception, because I perceive things at a different level.

I've said time and time again, you're not wrong but you're not right either.

Ezra here is the realist who perceives that "reality" is as it is, with NOTHING beneath the surface.

Silverhawk is the opposite, who perceives that "reality" is MORE than meets the eye.

Now, since these two are humans, like most people, they will usually imply moderation to their views since it is human nature to be distracted by these two extremes of "realism".

So where are we going with this?

Wherever you'll be as soon as you finish reading this.

Wow, first datasets, now you bring what you call "handicapped" people into the conversation.

There is no stopping the silverhawk!


What you are talking about does not contradict my statement:


Ezra Sez: Having a healthy body, mind and emotional state will make any guy more attractive to women

Silver Sez: What if your legs are unhealthy, or you're handicapped somehow, how do you deal with it? How do you make yourself better within your limitations? What is it that drives these people to success despite their handicap?

YOU DISCRIMINATORY SON OF A B1TCH. You calling a person with one leg "handicapped"? I dont agree to labelling people like that.

MY STATEMENT APPLIES TO ALL GUYS, even if you dont have a leg, or if you are blind... or if you have one eyebrow.

Note the use of the word *any* in my statement.

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Added on August 3, 2009, 10:22 amEvery guy should work to be in the best physical, mental and emotional state possible. Awesome FTW!

This post has been edited by ezralimm: Aug 3 2009, 10:22 AM

it is getting off topic with you guys arguing..

hawk never said you were wrong or right so why feel so bitter about it? He dented your ego?

anyway, i'll stick with hawk's views

and good write-up noob13

This post has been edited by dafreak: Aug 3 2009, 10:43 AM

actually i dont mind ppl arguing .. at first i taught it will be a good discussion but ezra started to have those bad words .... good post wasted

IMHO, Hawk is being far kinder to ezra than he deserves.

Err, *waves* lookie here.



How is handicapped being discriminatory?

Seriously the figurative speech of ezra seems to be getting out of hand.

Silver was suggesting that having one leg made a person "handicapped" in the game of love.

I dont believe so. Even according to your definition:


In any case, lacking in any physical attributes cannot be used as an excuse for failing in the game of love. True, some physical attributes (like a lost leg / height / bone size) cannot be changed....but it doesnt meant that a person with a lost leg shouldnt take good care of himself. Sure he cant run a marathon, but he should still exercise and eat well.

Healthy body + Healthy mind + Healthy emotional state = Makes a man...any man... more attractive to women.

I'm just quite disgusted that Silver had to bring in people with "one leg" into the conversation...and label them handicapped. It's not for him to judge!

You can have one eye, no eyebrows, and a single wooden leg. It is no excuse for not trying to stay in shape and be in good mental and emotional health.


Go for gold! Be Awesome.


The disabled runner may not be able to compete with the able bodied, but he still strives to win within his league.


EVERYONE has flaws. Some people have physical inadequacies (ie. one leg.). Some people have mental flaws (ie. are stupid). Some people have psychiatric flaws (ie. OCD). In a practical, real world dating scenario, (im just using this as an EXAMPLE ok....) a person with any flaw should not go around ignoring the impact his flaw has on his dating life. The person should instead realize it for what it is and take steps to better himself, potentially overshadowing the flaw in the process.


The guy with one leg born to a poor family. Eeks out a living. Recognizes his disability for what it is and then takes realistic steps to overcome it (ie. getting a prosthesis, joining societies etc) starts a business, and becomes successful in life. He thrives on a challenge. Girls will notice his confidence...that he is a winner in life...from the moment he opens his mouth.



Be The Best You Can Be!

This post has been edited by ezralimm: Aug 3 2009, 12:22 PM

Hey man, I agree with you completely! Attractive women are more often than not... boring. I don't know what's the deal with that, it's as though they don't know how to look good AND enjoy life or something. And yes, they are busy shield that 'inner sanctum' of theirs because they're "scared" of getting hurt or they're waiting for the 'perfect guy' or whatever. And when the 'perfect guy' comes along, they throw away that thick wall. Like WTF? That's worse than prostitutes.

Well. Since you put it that way, are you're ok if a guy were to say "a girl who doesn't have an appreciation for beauty and the pleasures of life and have no self control over her eating habits is useless to me"?

And that "the only way to prove she's 'all that' is to demonstrate her worth instead of interrogating me about my career or financial standing, and subsequently marriage". This would be equality, no?



btw, ezra and hawkie... aren't you guys arguing about the two different things? One is the consequence of feminism, and the other is the survival of the fittest. Apples and oranges dudes.

This post has been edited by spanker: Aug 3 2009, 12:21 PM

Well said. I agree completely



The positive and aggresive drive of life, along with the personality, career and financial status to back it up.

Definitely teh WINRAR.

I strive towards that.

I don't think her emphasis is on the "positive attitude and passion" because if that is the case, she'd be going after painters. The deal breaker will be the financial status.

i ever interested in a guy with RM2000 salary. Because of his independence and maturity in problem-solving skills.

This post has been edited by debbieyss: Aug 3 2009, 01:32 PM

You're the perfect exhibit for EPIC FAIL. I'll show you why in a moment.


Thank you for once again proving just how narrow minded you are.

Do metaphors totally elude you? I compared your "points" to walking legs, and used "one legged handicap" as a metaphor for any perceived weakness a person could have. All your criterias for attractiveness are highly subjective and many of us here who have a wide experience with social interactions can tell you that none of those criterias truly matter.

Smoking, drinking (alcohol, clarifying it with you cause I'm starting to doubt your intelligence) are unhealthy. By your definition these people by default are less attractive to others, and those who don't (normally goody goody guys) are by default, more attractive. Yet who are the ones getting the girls? You can see a hot chick with a fat guy, and a good looking buff guy sitting sadly all alone at a bar. What does that tell you? Exceptions?

Your exceptions only exists because you do not wish to acknowledge that you're missing something. You can talk about all these points, but in fact, I don't believe you truly understand anything about attraction. Whatever you understand, is simply on the surface level, shallow. You don't have that inner strength that successful people have, which is why you require so much validation from others. You can't bloody validate yourself.

You just can't admit that you're mistaken. Your "theories" are incomplete, you write not to help others, but to validate your own theories because of how your life has been affected by it. It shows in your writing and how you constantly try to garner support from others, appealing to the readership instead of your own rationality. Even that is laughable cause in this topic alone, how many people have you seen supporting what you say? How many have been saying I've been too nice to you? You appealed to the readership, so what are they saying? Or are you blind to that too because it'll hurt your fragile ego?

You wrote the face the truth series. I actually liked that at first, but the more you wrote, the more obvious it became you have a very skewed perspective. So I think its apt for you to also face the truth, that you don't know much about attraction as you think you do.


Which is what I'm trying to get into his thick skull. Its so damn thick, it doesn't have much space for a brain any more. I talked about how women are a social driving force, and the only thing he thinks about is love & attraction Any attempts to try get him to understand that have failed and basically that's how it got derailed.

I nicely asked him to admit he misunderstood what I wrote, but he was adamant on sticking to his view points. Typical behaviour of a narrow minded person.

Ahh... but you see... you are already implying that RM2000 is a low figure, and indirectly putting pressure on the relationship. If maturity in problem-solving is the main criterion, why assess the salary? Doesn't that also reflect on your level of maturity?

Oh...

It's because someone keeps saying figure of salary is the criteria a gal choose her bf. But I'm emphasizing that salary figure is not the end of the world, it is in fact the person's possitive and agressive drive of life that brings him who he is today.

If you've the possitive and agressive drive of life, you will find a way to improve and build up your career, you'll never let your salary stay at RM2000 forever.

And in the meantime, you should also motivate him to move forward, while you also improve on your salary, instead of becoming a leeching wife in the future.

why pin on the salary alone? do you realize that being financially successful does not solely rest on salary alone?

my tax amount is in 5-figure.. it aches me whenever i hear misappropriation of public funds (worst still, if it's corruption), being highly paid attracts alot of cost..

i like to see it this way.. i'm fine if i can someday pare down my salary to rm2k but have an investment that continues to rake in the bulk of my income.. almost tax free(or nominally taxed)

i think you'll look down on me for that paltry rm2k salary.. for you won't be able to see that 4-5 figure income generating investment that are usually shielded from gold diggers (i don't imply you as one.. but to be financially endowed, one learns to be alert towards scheme/scams/tramps)