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 Training, Pictures and Progress Thread V2, Show Pictures to prove yourself!

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post Oct 23 2009, 07:43 PM

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Yeap, uni life lately been killing me with all the reports and homework. So much less time for gym. Now only training like 3 days a week only.
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I replaced the chinups in the stronglift 5x5 with the pull-down machine. Yeah I know i'm suppose to stay away from machines and all but that's the only thing i can do now because of my sprained wrist. Any other recommended replacement?

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post Oct 23 2009, 08:24 PM

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Nothing wrong with pulldowns. smile.gif
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Oct 23 2009, 01:50 PM)
Finally! Something worth looking at in this thread!!
Awesome

And I love this video;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nppzGV1U8y8
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hmm...
is it true powerlifting is a dying sport?
i really think the white guy's view on bodybuilding is purely biased tapi my personal opinion je
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Oct 23 2009, 08:24 PM)
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Ah, thanks man glad to hear that.
Was worried that it would be an incomplete program.
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Oct 24 2009, 01:08 AM)
hmm...
is it true powerlifting is a dying sport?
i really think the white guy's view on bodybuilding is purely biased tapi my personal opinion je
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haha
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The problem with powerlifting, is it's a sport that requires you to first look past physical attractions and work to focus on strength and weaknesses. That's one of the biggest and toughest problems, because most guys have egos the size of one of the craters on Venus. The problem becomes exacerbated because of tempo/spandex fitness clubs where the attention is on the guy that looks gayest and has the biggest bicep and chest and everybodys interested in getting big, fast and easy.

Yet powerlifting is a tough arduous sport which requires analysis, technique, strength, a level of athleticism, patience, nutrition, money, and strength. Then there's another huge issue, which is the two schools of thought. Raw and equipped. Raw lifters think that equipped lifters are cheaters that try to limit ROM, and equipped lifters think that they're doing a good job as well in getting strong.

So internally itself, there's a ton of conflict. What more externally?

Weightlifting has one small advantage. It's way more popular because of history and the Olympics. Powerlifting, say that to 10 guys in the street, 8 will say "HAH?" 1 will mistake that for weightlifting and if you're lucky, the last guy will know that it involves deadlifting.
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post Oct 24 2009, 06:11 AM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Oct 24 2009, 02:18 AM)
The problem with powerlifting, is it's a sport that requires you to first look past physical attractions and work to focus on strength and weaknesses. That's one of the biggest and toughest problems, because most guys have egos the size of one of the craters on Venus. The problem becomes exacerbated because of tempo/spandex fitness clubs where the attention is on the guy that looks gayest and has the biggest bicep and chest and everybodys interested in getting big, fast and easy.

Yet powerlifting is a tough arduous sport which requires analysis, technique, strength, a level of athleticism, patience, nutrition, money, and strength. Then there's another huge issue, which is the two schools of thought. Raw and equipped. Raw lifters think that equipped lifters are cheaters that try to limit ROM, and equipped lifters think that they're doing a good job as well in getting strong.

So internally itself, there's a ton of conflict. What more externally?

Weightlifting has one small advantage. It's way more popular because of history and the Olympics. Powerlifting, say that to 10 guys in the street, 8 will say "HAH?" 1 will mistake that for weightlifting and if you're lucky, the last guy will know that it involves deadlifting.
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I think Pizzaboy made a clear picture on Powerlifting. In Australia, Powerlifting is a dying sport. you don't see as much participation as you can get in the early 90's etc. Kids these days prefer to go to the pub and drink their arse of and then go home with a major headache the next morning. It isn't the hardcore mentality that Powerliting isn't the number 1 sport anywhere you go. PL has been related to drug usage etc etc. But if we look at the bigger picture of sports generally, none of them are decent anyway (in terms of drugs etc). I said this earlier, all sports are drug tested, but not drug free.

The usage of a suit, bench shirt etc, is mainly for protection when you go heavier. PL concentrates alot on strength so you tend to push the weights up as you go. Eg; a super tight suit will tighten your posterior chain so that your back will have the arch throughout the movement (tightness). In the World Championship every year, you can see coaches around the world fit their athletes with SUPER tight suits and super tight wraps to the extend where the athletes couldn't even walk, they need to be carried to the platform. Some even have to cut the suit out after a comp because its too tight to take it off. Putting on a suit is already a b**ch. I'd say this, RAW powerlifters might look stronger, but that doesn't mean that Equipped powerlifters are 100% relying on equipments. We don't train equipped all the time, most of the time its strap down in a training suit .

The fact that powerlifters are often regarded as fat people is another common scene. I don't see why one couldn't get decently lean with PL. But of course, you need to eat big, pack up some big muscles and then try not to go crazy on burgers etc. There are lean powerlifters. It is all about the diet. Well of course we only have a handful of Super-Ripped guys,other than that, they are just commonly lean.

I'd love to see Malaysia getting affiliated by the IPF one day. Hopefully that will happen once I complete whatever I'm doing here and return back home and arrange something. We are equally capable of anyone else. Oh and when you look at score sheets, usually the Russians or the Scandinavian country athletes are on the top 3. No surprise because, the scene is huge there and the gap between these jokers and other athletes are massive they become not worth looking at, god knows what crap are they on, but like I said there is nothing we can do, they passed the drug test though they have some funky stuff running through their blood.

Most importantly , Powerlifting is about achieving a goal and being a better person in terms of discipline, dedication etc. A man without limbs would die for tendonitis , a paralyzed man would kill for sore hips. Nothing hardcore about that but it simply is to tell that , no sport on man's land is going to be easy; oly lifting, powerlifting, bodybuilidng, soccer etc . cool2.gif

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I think the problem with powerlifting is that it's difficult.

It's relatively easy to bulk up and put on muscle. It's also relatively easier to drop bodyfat.

But it's much more difficult to put on 10kgs on your bench press if you're past the beginner stage. You have to first analyse your body type, which grip width will be more suitable etc. Then you have to analyse your lift, where do you fail? I've read an article by Dave Tate where he said he had a lifter constantly failing to lock out, so that means tricep strength issues. Do you immediately add in tricep work? Do you cut down the volume of benching and replace it with board presses? In that article, he had his lifter cut out normal bench presses and replaced them with heavier tricep work instead.

This is only a very small part of powerlifting, and I think that's what turns people off. Most people are not willing to work hard for it. How else do you explain people using the same weights for an exercise throughout the entire year?

It's not a sport for everyone I guess, it's for those who have the willingness and dedication to be the best that they can be. And unfortunately, very few are like that.
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Megan Fox's Video is up, please give some comment XD

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...=742506&st=520#
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wow..i love ur love handles.. hahahahaa.. on a more serious note..
dude..u better watch ur form in ur 120kg squat...from what i can make out...ur ar partially lifting the weight with ur leg...the depth is ok..but at one point u are just using your back to raise the bar

meaning..u are leaning infront and then lifting ur back straight up...if u lose balance at this point....the weight is gonna turtle u...

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I'm obviously not an expert, but from what I can see, you're leaning forward a bit too much on your squats. Almost makes it look like a good morning exercise. tongue.gif
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and a good morning with 120 kg on ur back is ....not a very good morning...
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Oct 24 2009, 11:35 PM)
Megan Fox's Video is up, please give some comment XD

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...=742506&st=520#
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I think form needs alot of work, drop the weights, it looks like they are too heavy for you at the moment. Work on your setup for both squats and deadlift.

On the other hand if you still insist on the weights, you need to get tight on your deadlifts, and try not to face the mirror during both squattng and deadlift. Deadlift away from the mirror. Try not to look at the mirror while squatting, it f**s up your form because you tend to keep your head tilted slightly down and thats why you look like you are getting crushed after every rep. More assistance work, cable row, barbell rows, dumbbell rows, shrugs etc

I'll post a few sequential shots of a deadlift. Notice that my hips are relatively high for a start but I keep my hips from extending excessively throughout the movement. Some people have a lower setup, as long as you dont extend your hips too fast during the movement, it should be fine. Again, you need to start off from scratch on your Deadlift. You might get away with 127.5 since it still isn't heavy, but when you hit 180, you'd know what i mean. Lockout has to improve as well,you have a power rack, do rack lockouts. My form isn't the most perfect form but it might be worthwhile for you to take a look at. Most importantly when you see the photos, look at my stance. Yours is a tad too wide for a conv deadlift because you don't look like you are pulling sumo btw. I'm about 71-72kg btw.

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thank guy, will try to improve it. still no have time to reply in depth. Hiking time Woot!
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post Oct 25 2009, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Oct 24 2009, 10:35 PM)
Megan Fox's Video is up, please give some comment XD

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...=742506&st=520#
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You have a low bar rack position, which is why you tend to tilt forward a bit. As the bar position is lower on your back, you CAN go forward more and use your posterior chain better. Your squat form, emphasizes the glutes and lower back more than it does on the quads. It also enables you to use more weight, compared to a high bar back squat.

Now, should you use it? Yes. The only issue with your form, that I think you can fix is your inability to time your upward drive. You drive, but you cut your drive short, midway and then strain it up again. How do you fix that? Experience.

Now I'm also going to say something against the grain. Tilt your chest DOWN and tilt your HEAD DOWN. To understand why I said that, first stand in a 1/4 squat position with your chest and head up. Now JUMP! Ok? Now tilt your head and chest down. Now jump. Which one gives you more power? But keep your back taut and straight.

And when you have a low bar position, and you still tilt your head up, you tend to have problems putting the bar in the correct position.

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post Oct 25 2009, 01:19 PM

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and get rid of the chucks
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Oct 25 2009, 08:33 AM)
You have a low bar rack position, which is why you tend to tilt forward a bit. As the bar position is lower on your back, you CAN go forward more and use your posterior chain better. Your squat form, emphasizes the glutes and lower back more than it does on the quads. It also enables you to use more weight, compared to a high bar back squat.

Now, should you use it? Yes. The only issue with your form, that I think you can fix is your inability to time your upward drive. You drive, but you cut your drive short, midway and then strain it up again. How do you fix that? Experience.

Now I'm also going to say something against the grain. Tilt your chest DOWN and tilt your HEAD DOWN. To understand why I said that, first stand in a 1/4 squat position with your chest and head up. Now JUMP! Ok? Now tilt your head and chest down. Now jump. Which one gives you more power? But keep your back taut and straight.

And when you have a low bar position, and you still tilt your head up, you tend to have problems putting the bar in the correct position.
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thanks for the guide. take time to digest your post, will read it after i take a rest. just back from hiking trip..6 hours, but it is nice XD
those who are staying nearby ampang can join me XD blush.gif

QUOTE(shanecross @ Oct 25 2009, 01:19 PM)
and get rid of the chucks
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erm, what is the meaning? cant get it even checked dic..
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Oct 25 2009, 05:23 PM)
thanks for the guide. take time to digest your post, will read it after i take a rest. just back from hiking trip..6 hours, but it is nice XD
those who are staying nearby ampang can join me XD blush.gif
erm, what is the meaning? cant get it even checked dic..
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Chucks = Converse or "Converse like shoes". It is grammatically incorrect if I were to say " Get rid of your chucks " that carries the meaning of your quote. smile.gif

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Oct 25 2009, 04:41 PM)
Chucks = Converse or "Converse like shoes". It is grammatically incorrect if I were to say " Get rid of your chucks " that carries the meaning of your quote.  smile.gif
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I LAUGHED SO HARD AT HIS REPLY!!!!!
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Sorry wasn't been in here for a long time. hehe. Would a girl be ok to be in here? icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Oct 15 2009, 12:19 PM)
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Hey! Malaysia got Kanye West too?

The best bod of all time!
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I dun rike kanye west, he insulted Taylor Swift sad.gif
His bod is nothing compare to hugh jackman and Brad Pitt k ahha

QUOTE(John91 @ Oct 15 2009, 01:27 PM)
Swimmers? Naw lol.
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As in real swimmers in MYS, you go take a look smile.gif

QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 15 2009, 01:35 PM)
Shouldn't have mentioned that in the bodybuilding thread girl.
Bigger is better for the guys here.
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hahaha I heard 18" is the best? whistling.gif

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