Is the relay u mentioned expensive to be replaced? Should i get it replaced at SC or outside shop? cos my car slightly over 2 years. So no more warranty liao.

I know which is which e.g. Min -> Coldest, Max -> Hottest. But whichever position i turned to, the air is still freezing cold. Emit some unpleasant smell also.

And sometimes the aircond behaved strangely. Sometimes after i off aldy, it will automatically switch on with full blast for a few seconds before off again.

Btw, only the the relay will be able to solve the problem above? How about the fan kept spinning non stop?

This post has been edited by Blue_Diamond: Feb 4 2010, 03:02 PM

*Time to spam *

Anyone changed their tyre recently? If yes, what is the cost?

More interested in the choices... would you go for tyres that are aim more toward comfort, or aim toward performance (a.k.a grip?) ? Why ?

I think it's about time I change my tyre. Getting hard to brake after 110km/h.
Add note: My driving style is more of a fast-driving (aiming for consistency of 80km/h ~ 110km/h whenever I drive; which is why I hate traffic jam).

what i believe is what you have mentioned, eg: e.g. Min -> Coldest, Max -> Hottest. my aircon has no problem, im keeping it slightly below btw 23-24degrees most of the time, ie with the knob pointer a slight degree towards the left.

no such problems as what you have reported. maybe u can send to proton edar to check?

I've been playing it safe all this while by placing it at 12-oclock direction (pointing north; 50-50)


This post has been edited by Dovienya: Feb 4 2010, 03:27 PM

always at the hottest

If that's the case, i think i'll send it SC this weekend. The problem seems bad but hopefully it doesn't cost me a bomb.

Have to drive to work without aircond until weekend...sigh...

i kena like u b4...relay melt...the relay cost around 25-30 only....

maxxis victra...jenalcampayon approves it....

this tyre got comfort and performance...u want all out performance,use parada but noisy abit....50series somemore...

hi,

I would like to know, what is the cost for service 100k? need to bajet, slowly and surely hitting that milestone soon.

Heard someone said to be rm1k++ due to change of timing belt

thanks for your reply

probably, mine is june 2004 about 6 months after launch, by december i think they already had a new map for the ECU.

and like eng98 said it only happens at low speed driving, most super especially noticeable when driving in car park looking for parking in shopping e.g.

Perhaps you can ask your question over : HERE

Hello there thanks for your reply =D

There is more general towards the CPS engine. Im actually more curious to know about the Gen 2 in particular. I always tell people that i want to get a gen 2 cps, but they always say that the car is crappy and have many problem and recommend to get the Persona instead. AFAIK the persona is derived from the gen 2 right?

I always think that the old gen 2, being the first major proton designed car, has alot of problems, but all have been rectified in the Persona, and the gen 2 cps. Is this true? Many people say that they are the same, and the gen 2 cps still have many of the old gen 2 problems. Thats why i would like to know is there any issues users of gen 2 now are facing, and whether these issues are also on the new gen 2 cps.

One of the things i heard about the gen 2 is bad headroom space in the rear seats. This is rectified in the Persona right. This for me isnt an issue =D
Another issue i hear so much about the old gen 2 is the bad torque dip, which i believe in the CPS, is also rectified.

I'd like to know more on other issues, so when i finally make the purchase, i can be well informed.

Hope you guys can help. Thanks!

This post has been edited by daijoubu: Feb 4 2010, 11:21 PM

Indeed, Gen2 having bad rear seats headroom problem if you are taller than 175cm...
Persona don't have this issue.

I believe buying car is depends on your luck, no matter is new car or used car ...

This post has been edited by ahpaul82: Feb 4 2010, 11:29 PM

true true, i agree. with proton's qc, it really depends on luck =D

but is there like, real common problem with the gen 2? besides the rear headroom?
so at least, when i am aware of these problems, then when i buy i wont get disappointed when those problem happens ma =D
mentally prepare as they say =.=

like for example, the power window issues for all proton. now that i know its like, 80% can happen, when i buy the gen 2 cps, and the power window breaks down, i've alreayd somewhat expect it

Talk about QC,
i believe even H or T brand car QC not as good as old generation..

anyway,
have you test drive Gen2 CPS before?
go test drive first, maybe later on you will change your mind again..

actuallyyyyyy =.= not yet xD
i dont have the time or chance yet
still trying to sell off my old car before i get it
but im kinda set on that car already
its the only proton car i'd get
if i have the money i'd go for vios/mazda 2/swift, but unfortunately id ont have the money

so that means i'd have to go for proton
and the gen2 cps does kinda in a way, excites me, more than any other protons at least =.=
now, before i commit by going to a dealer and test drive, i want to know what im getting myself into xD

daijoubu? former edifier seller correct? still remember me? i always make myself busy at the edifier showroom test this and that back in 2002 if i'm not mistaken

This post has been edited by shazmn: Feb 5 2010, 09:46 AM

Torque drip is still around.

CPS did "technically" solved this problem; but it is more of a design fault. So, to say that CPS solve it is abit far-stretch. What I would say is that CPS did minimize the drip (due to the IAFM module integration).

CPS actual utilization is in the higher torque powerband. Comparing CPS to normal ver, CPS give more power at the upper powerband.

Also, when you ask opinion (other than this tread), do you ask them if they owe or drive a Gen-2?
Because when I asked (last time), 90% of the reply comes from member who "hear-say" about Gen2.


As a Gen2 driver, I'll say this as well.

PRO:
It is a Proton car, so spare part and maintenance is easier compare to foreign car.

CON:
It is a Proton car, so fuel consumption is not as good as foreign car (especially cars like Vios and City; reason = vios/city is built for fuel-consumption while Gen2 is built for power).


PRO:
The handling is tuned by Lotus (not sure about CPS version), so the car is more agile and have better control.

CON:
I feel that I need the power to assist in control. Feel rough at turtle speed; but almost no control problem if I driver at my normal speed (avg 2~3k rpm).


PRO/CON (you decide):
It is very fuel consumption in a fully 100% city driving (such as KL); my average is 34L (64$) for an average distance of 300KM. This is because I am attempting to drive consistently at 100Km/hour even during 5.45pm (traffic jam period)
Also Known As: With great "Power", come great "Sacrifice"

Summary: test drive and see if you like the feel of the car.

macam spiderman saja~

spiderman cps version mah

Its best to go dyno the car and look at the curves.
Because those charts on the net from Proton's website indicates that the CPS did solve the torque dip problems at the low end