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~**Proton CPS club V5**~, ....Calling all CPS owner..buzz..buzz...

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TSeastwest	Nov 16 2009, 09:53 AM, updated 16y ago Show posts by this member only \| Post #1
Regular Senior Member 1,608 posts Joined: Nov 2007	previous version Proton CPS Club V4 Proton cps club V3..... A new proton CPS club.....V4 already * Please kindly include ur nick, name, the colour of your ride... and probably.. No. plate (maybe just no. will do. for security purpose) and also transmission AT or MT (Can also PM me your info. Will update the list asap) Format of info to be update on 1st page nick - (name) - colour - car no. - AT/MT* SC center commented by members Mutiara Damansara : 1. Appointment only 2. Saturday for normal service only, warranty claims during weekdays only COE 1. so far so good er... hope that the info included will not mess up the list haha although for me seems like quite messy Senaxis Sdn. Bhd. (in taman mayang, SS25 PJ) eastwest 1. so far so good. done all my car service there. Satisfied with their service. 2. First come first serve. Waja CPS Members list :- » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1. Skyancient (Ric) - Twilight Blue - 556 (MT) - JB 13th March 2008 (where did he go???) 2. Whoopa (colin) - Iridescent White - 1709 - (AT) (missing in action) 3. Draken - Blue Agate - X62X (AT) - S'gor,KL,NS 4. Sphiroth - (BOSS) - Twilight Blue - 4556 - (MT) - Selangor 29th February 2008 (King POISON) 5. Mytrader - Blue Agate - xxx7 (AT) 6. Pesot (pesot)- Twilight Blue - 844 - (AT) 7. -YS- - (YS)- Blue Agate - X338 - (AT) 8. Zeli - ( Zeli ) - Twilight Blue - X801 - (MT) 04 March 2008 9. OBTS - Twilight Blue - 9065 (AT) 10. Eastwest (Z) -Twilight Blue - X9X - (AT) (Still manage to cure the poison) 11. Radd - Iridescent white - SS**L - (AT) 12. Low Rider - Blue Agate - (MT) 13. GL9 - Metal Grey - 9xxx (AT) 14. Nocturna - Twilight Blue - 8@ - (AT) - JB 15. Vey99 - Blue Agate - (AT) 16. Pizi87 - Bronze - 44 - (AT) 17. Harinling - Twilight Blue - 6631 (MT) - Selangor, PJ 18. Chinseong (jacky)- Bronze Garnet - 2812 - (MT) 19. Harzrean - (Kulim) - Burgundy - 5991 - (AT) 20. Kornykrazzies - Twilight Blue - 80 (AT) 21. Safe Driver - Twilight Blue - (AT) 19th march 2008 22. R.Y.D.E.C.K - Twilight Blue - (M) - KL 6th May 2008 (is being poisoned...) 23. Lordragos - Bronze Garnet - 5* - (MT) 24. Spacepilot - Burgundy - 88xx - (MT) 7th July 2008 25. Alloyion (Ming Wai) - Twilight Blue - X483 (AT) - 16th July 2008 26. Futobuta - Twilight Blue (MT) - 488 - 16th May 2008 27. TechTitan (VerM) - Iridescent White - W*3 - (AT) - Seri Kembangan 28. kaizen818 - burgundy - W**8 - (MT) - PJ 23 July 08 29. is_hafiz - Twilight Blue - 4035 (AT) - Ulu Klang 30. tony (gofey) - Blue Agate - WRQ - (MT) - Cheras 31. Benny7 - Twilight Blue - WRQ - (MT) - PJ 32. CrisisX - (HT) - Twilight Blue - 8362 - (MT) 18th August 2008 33. klia - twilight blue - 9677 - AT - PJ - waja cps 34. kaisers - metal grey - 6244 - AT 35. odi862 - Twilight Blue - 2303 - (AT) - 20th September 2008 36. khairilee (Zam) - Bronze Gournet - 2197 (AT) - SHAH ALAM 37. syl@r - blue agate(waja) - pR00 - mt 38. jctasoga - Twilight Blue - 1511 (MT) - BP, johor 39. siaokia1 (Andrew) - Iridescent White - W1704 - AT 40. eujinee (Eujin) - Twilight Blue - A 2992 - AT (the 17in rim guy, now with hotbit, so his car is really fast now!) 41. avars () - Bronze Garnet - W 1606 - AT - 13 Jan 2009 42. loloque - bronze garnet - D6617 43. hantuk - bronze garnet - W4181 44. thienwu - Tranquility Black - WSP XX11 - MT 45. paigia - Blue Agate - 7141 - MT - (Kepong/CHeras - 12 feb 09) 46. ubialon - Bronze Garnate - JLPXXXX - MT (JB 30/5/09) 47. eudoradeep - Nambu Black - (Johor Bahru) 48. ariecps - Twilight Blue (black bumper) - J7192 49. Lexy (Alex) - Tranquility Black - 896 - AT 50. singchaii - Tranquility Black - 828- MY - Cheras (6/11/2009) 51. aeroguyz - Blue haze - 1428 - MT 52. Azuma-kum - Bronze Garnet - 5196 - MT 53. kobe10(rico) - Bronze Garnett - W** 27 (2010) Gen2 CPS Members list :- » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1. Diablo69 - Nambo Black - 1508 2. Yinho - Iridescent White - 3182 - (AT) - PJ 3. Magpie2000 - nanbu black - 7*0 - (MT) 4. Mirage81 - Iridescent White - (AT) 5. Cik_audi - Copper - 3662 - (MT) 6. WillLiang - Nambo Black - (MT) 7. Sibadakair - Nanbu Black - 534 - MT 23rd May 2008 8. aaronthc - Nanbu Black - (AT) 9. Pearjar - (faizal) - I.White - 494 - MT - From kb, kelantan ("harta karun" installed already) 10. Mohd Idham - iridescent white - 7478 11. v3000i - Nanbu Black - (MT) - 1591 12. nutmeg - Gen2 CPS - I/White - WRS996 13. kaylong - Gen2 CPS - Nanbu Black – 5773 (MT) 14. arroyos ( Kent Liaw) - Iridecent White - AT 15. suff - (suffian) - Nanbu black - 2874(MT) 16. feedzz - Nanbu Black - 13 - MT 17. pepijat - Metal Grey - 1312 - AT 18. Inspire4x - Nanbu Black - WSF 55 - MT 19. shikuzika - Hibiscus Tea - 4709 - AT 20. thesurveyor - Nanbu Black - * 8345 - AT 21. Aznan - Nanbu Black - DBH6934. - MT - pasir mas,kelate. (got the potential to "overtake" king POISON) 22. lgs - Metal Grey - ??? - MT (from korea??) 23. norseman - nanbu black - **** - AT 24. azroy - nanbu black - 6929 - AT 25. uyasbie - tranquility black - 1029 - BP, johor - MT 26. jVIPERs2(Jullian) - Nanbu Black - WS* 80 - AT 27. bakry - Genetic Silver - WS* **6 - TTDI 28. Avanray - hibiscus tea - 3942 - MT 29. shah333 - Nanbu Black - WR 99 - MT 30. terminatorkun - Hibiscus Tea - QAQ XXX - MT 31. angelflames - I/White - 9018 - MT (USJ) 32. beez - tranquility black - 312 - AT TQVM 33. mie_2681 (Mie) - Hibiscus Tea - BK* 7*7 - MT 34. MRL - Nanbu Black - 1691 - AT 35. saone - Nanbu Black - KK 66 - MT 36. Naikon - Hibiscus Tea - W9675 - MT 37. SirDuke - Nanbu Black - 5060 - AT 38. ahpaul82 - Hibiscus Tea - W* 24 - MT 39. warokeropokai - Metal grey - W4530 - MT 40. pedanglaut - Iridescent White - WRQ 81 - MT 41. mzaidi - Genetic Silver - WTB 6 - AT 42. taurusboyz90 - Nanbu Black - MBU 85 - AT 43. AnGeR - Black - 717 - MT 44. attention - Nanbu Black - WTG5xxx - MT 45. redrose9802 - Genetic Silver - 9249 - AT 46. a-ei-a - Genetic Silver - AT 47. oseemm - hibiscus tea - AT 48. nikqin - Metal Grey - 1004 - AT. 49. RAY86 - iridescent white - 568 - AT 50. pAdiLaDEn - hibiscus tea - 5384 - MT <NEW>Satria Neo CPS Members list :- » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1. achmedrauff - Black - 4632 2. Decyfer - Tranquility Black - 885 - MT 3. idil - black - 8285 - MT 4. irix - Black - 1722 - MT Special Members list(one and only) Zenwarlord-waja-mivec ->> Still here..hehe Name - Engine Oil : 1. R.Y.D.E.C.K - Shell Helix HX5 15W-40 2. ezwann - Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40, Fully Syn 3. eujinee - Castrol Magnetec 10W-40, Semi-Syn 4. ahpaul82 - Motul 6100 SYNERGIE+ 10W-40, Semi-Syn 5. fazron80 - 6. sphiroth - Mobil 1 5W-50, Fully Syn 7. klia - Petronas Syntium 1000 15W-50, Fully Syn 8. Zairee - Shell Helix Ultra 5w-40, Fully Syn 9. jctasoga - Bardahl 5W-30, Fully Syn 10. ThienWu - Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40, Fully Syn 11. pearjar - Petronas Syntium 800 10W-30, Semi-Syn 12. eastwest - Petronas Syntium 800 10W-40, Semi-Syn 13. jVIPERs2 - Petronas Syntium 800 10W-30, Semi-Syn 14. singchaii - Hyrax E-one 10w-40, semi syn 15. Diablo69 - Amsoil ASL 5W30 Fully Syn <NEW>Highest mileage » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « ??????? Record of services from CPS members » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Skyancient Rm144, things include - engine oil 20W/50, - gear oil - oil filter 1.6 - engine flush - gasket drain plug - 1000km free service Sphiroth Centre of Service Excellence (CoSE) - 1st service: RM 108.00, Petronas Syntium 800 Semi synthetic engine oil, Gear oil. - 2nd service: RM 68.00, Petronas Mach 5 Mineral oil. - 3rd service: RM129, Syntium 800 engine oil, windscreen washer, oil filter - 4th service : PESC Btu Pahat , RM351 Engine oil- Castrol Magnetec Semi synthetic, Spark plug , Brake service-(change oil, inspect/resurface pad/bleeding), Radiator service, Throttle body service, Oil filter, Tunnng. OBTS -1st Service RM115.80 Pesot82 SNYM Auto, Kemaman. RM 220. -Engine oil Syntium 800 15W-50 -ATF -Oil filter -Washer fluid (optional, RM4) -Gasket drain plug Zeli Mutiara Damansara SC (PE Platinum Showroom) 1st service: RM 94.60 - Petronas Mach 5 Mineral oil (20W/50), Gear oil, Oil Filter, Gasket-Plug-Oil Drain, Screen Wash. COE SC 2nd service: RM 100.74 + RM 57.12 (Balancing & Alignment) - Petronas Syntium 800 SM Semi-synth oil (15W/50), Oil Filter, Gasket-Plug-Oil Drain. Bukit Maluri, Kepong SC 3rd service: RM 77.96 - Mobil1 SuperSyn 0W-40, Oil Filter, Gasket-Plug-Oil Drain, Spark Plug, Radiator Coolant. Servis Mesra LCCT/KLIA 4th service: RM245.70 - Mobil1 SuperSyn 0W-40, Gear oil, Oil Filter, Gasket-Plug-Oil Drain, Spark Plug, Radiator Coolant, Air filter, Brake fluid. Diablo69 - Gen2 rm101 for semi syn, oil filter, oil sump washer -YS- Rm 70++ Items: Engine Oil, Oil Filter + Gasket , Screen Wash Magpie2000- gen2 RM89.74- Section 13 SC - Mach 5 SM 20W/50 RM55 - Oil Filter RM12.22 - Gasket plug - oil drain RM2.52 - GL4-80W Gear Oil RM20 klia Mutiara Damansara Platinum 1st - RM74.60 - Marh 5, oil filter, gasket & screen wash 2nd - RM99.27 - Syntium 800 15W/50, oil filter & gasket Service Glenmarie 3rd - RM160.45 - Syntium 800 15W/50, oil filter, gasket, screen wash, spark plug & radiator coolant 20,000km major service eastwest syntium 800 SM 10W/40 oil filter gasket, oil drain radiator coolant spark plug element air cleaner atf labour => RM446.71 MODIFICATION Too many mods by CPSer, pening nak update Problems encounter on received Waja CPS 1. Front fender squeezing sound 2. Alignment not properly done + tyre balancing is out, steering will shake after 110km/h 3. Buzzing sound from dash board after rpm reach 2.5k-3k 4. Front passenger side wiper couldn't hold the wiper properly, after fix back it still came off 5. Air-con compressor when active tat time will have "klok klok klok" sounds 6. AT cars having problem on "check engine" light 7. 5 case of PW incident happened ATM... 1. glass drop and break 2. glass lift fail to operate 3. short circuit on the PW control on door panel 8. Paint at the side mirror start to "peel" off after 1 year 9. power window motor for front passeger side burned. Claim warranty. 10. "Surround sound" -- dolby waja eh?? Problems encounter on received Gen2 CPS ...updating... FC for waja - 1) [roughtly 0.16-0.18] + 40%= 0.23-0.25 cent/km(depends on the driver) 2) 11-14 km/l(depends on the driver)..record is 16km/l FC for gen2 1) lgs -> RM0.16 = 11.25km/L -- RM0.13 = 13.85km/L 2) jVIPERs2 -> 7.0 +/- 0.1L/100KM 3) ezwann -> RM50 fuel (shell RM1.8/L) + RM67 (mobil Rm1.8/L) = 660km = 65 liter 50%highway 50%city OR 1 liter = 10.1km 4) shah333 -> 5.6-5.7l/100km - slgr town n highway - stock engine (1 liter = 17.54km) This post has been edited by eastwest**: Feb 10 2010, 03:14 PM
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R.Y.D.E.C.K	Nov 16 2009, 10:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2
Getting Started Junior Member 246 posts Joined: May 2008	QUOTE(jctasoga @ Nov 15 2009, 05:26 PM) eh? serious? mine no cover wan...2008 model.. so mine should be one of the first batches... later will check mine.... QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 15 2009, 05:39 PM) Of course i am serious. i worked at eon and I saw these different. That why i asking u guy about this matter. When u sent ur car to service, try go peep. i'm sure new batch cps using mivec gearbox. That y new waja cps have better power. Even my waja cps also having the cover. mivec QUOTE(alexscm @ Nov 15 2009, 08:45 PM) Hey guys...remember that i showed you my scratched dashboard? This is what i did to cover it.... [attachmentid=1305675] [attachmentid=1305682] [attachmentid=1305685] Anyone interested in doing the same??? woah plan to change mine too QUOTE(ben_cps @ Nov 15 2009, 10:45 PM) black .... cant sleep... cant eat .... i just cant wait to have my own waja cps (m)... im going crazy.... price - rm61888 discount - rm3000 downpayment - rm9888 loan - rm49000 3.65 - 7years- pbb monthly around rm732 welkam QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Nov 15 2009, 11:01 PM) Oh...16". 2 weeks? In his dream la wey. U better prepare for worst situation ever haha my colleage order saga...2week SA said...but now oledi reach 1 half month ...me receive on time..as promised..quite lucky wahh......CANGRATsss.....V5 oledi dammmn ............guy sory not attending tt..kene hook wehh V5 but still no intro picture....ok,how bout we do tt @BP than we took picture as our main intro picture ...sunday nite saw myvi club convoy ....dammn envy
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TSeastwest	Nov 16 2009, 10:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #3
Regular Senior Member 1,608 posts Joined: Nov 2007	QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 16 2009, 10:08 AM) later will check mine.... mivec woah plan to change mine too welkam haha my colleage order saga...2week SA said...but now oledi reach 1 half month ...me receive on time..as promised..quite lucky wahh......CANGRATsss.....V5 oledi dammmn ............guy sory not attending tt..kene hook wehh V5 but still no intro picture....ok,how bout we do tt @BP than we took picture as our main intro picture ...sunday nite saw myvi club convoy ....dammn envy How about TT sometime in december? I'm free from 1/12- 14 dec (because my wife have to attend courses , so can be a lone renjer for a while..lol )
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alexscm	Nov 16 2009, 10:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #4
New Member Junior Member 29 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Seremban-Petaling Jaya	QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 16 2009, 10:08 AM) woah plan to change mine too change apa bro???
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pearjar	Nov 16 2009, 10:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #5
Getting Started Junior Member 100 posts Joined: Jun 2008	V5 already...
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clsia1001	Nov 16 2009, 11:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #6
Regular Senior Member 1,290 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: PD	Congratz on V5.. Gonna join da club.. zenwarlord, "Mivec gearbox code number start with F5M42-1-xxxx, "if" proton punch their own number then very hard to tell by physical outlook." How to check the gearbox code number huh? sphiroth, "AFAIK, it comes standard no matter what kind of loans you take. Actually, its more like an insurance kinda thingy rather than normal warranty." Mean all also comes with 5 years warranty? The PDF in PE website seem from Allianz Bank one..:erm:
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sphiroth	Nov 16 2009, 11:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #7
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,804 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Nov 16 2009, 11:11 AM) Congratz on V5.. Gonna join da club.. zenwarlord, "Mivec gearbox code number start with F5M42-1-xxxx, "if" proton punch their own number then very hard to tell by physical outlook." How to check the gearbox code number huh? sphiroth, "AFAIK, it comes standard no matter what kind of loans you take. Actually, its more like an insurance kinda thingy rather than normal warranty." Mean all also comes with 5 years warranty? The PDF in PE website seem from Allianz Bank one..:erm: Its like Proton is buying insurance from Alliance bank. So the bank will pay if the engine is damage. (from what I heard).
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clsia1001	Nov 16 2009, 11:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #8
Regular Senior Member 1,290 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: PD	QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 16 2009, 11:17 AM) Its like Proton is buying insurance from Alliance bank. So the bank will pay if the engine is damage. (from what I heard). If so does that mean my car insurance MUST be Allianz Bank also? Or any insurance company will do?
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sphiroth	Nov 16 2009, 11:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #9
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,804 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 16 2009, 07:58 AM) Mivec gearbox code number start with F5M42-1-xxxx, "if" proton punch their own number then very hard to tell by physical outlook. Where to see the code? QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Nov 16 2009, 08:33 AM) i've check my gen2 cps MT gearbox use F5M42 with 4.312 final drive.. i think they use same gearbox with MIVEC but diff final drive to suite cps power band But its kinda weird that they use mivec GB in the later batch.. Added on November 16, 2009, 11:38 am QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Nov 16 2009, 11:21 AM) If so does that mean my car insurance MUST be Allianz Bank also? Or any insurance company will do? Proton is the one who bought the insurance. This post has been edited by sphiroth: Nov 16 2009, 11:38 AM
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TSeastwest	Nov 16 2009, 11:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #10
Regular Senior Member 1,608 posts Joined: Nov 2007	sphiroth, what is the gearbox used for our batch? Actually what is the different between our batch and newer one?
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sphiroth	Nov 16 2009, 12:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #11
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,804 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(eastwest @ Nov 16 2009, 11:58 AM) sphiroth, what is the gearbox used for our batch? Actually what is the different between our batch and newer one? Don't know where to see the serial. And my car is quite low to peek at the GB.
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clsia1001	Nov 16 2009, 12:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #12
Regular Senior Member 1,290 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: PD	QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 16 2009, 11:34 AM) Where to see the code? But its kinda weird that they use mivec GB in the later batch.. Added on November 16, 2009, 11:38 am Proton is the one who bought the insurance. Mean Proton buy insurance n then give 5 year warranty to us? We only enjoy the insurance coverage lidat? QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 16 2009, 12:00 PM) Don't know where to see the serial. And my car is quite low to peek at the GB. Jack up n peep lol... Mivec is better? Only for Waja CPS isit?
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zenwarlord	Nov 16 2009, 12:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #13
Transmogrifier Senior Member 1,193 posts Joined: May 2008 From: Penang	QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Nov 16 2009, 11:11 AM) Congratz on V5.. Gonna join da club.. zenwarlord, "Mivec gearbox code number start with F5M42-1-xxxx, "if" proton punch their own number then very hard to tell by physical outlook." How to check the gearbox code number huh? sphiroth, "AFAIK, it comes standard no matter what kind of loans you take. Actually, its more like an insurance kinda thingy rather than normal warranty." Mean all also comes with 5 years warranty? The PDF in PE website seem from Allianz Bank one..:erm: The number punched on the GB somewhere nearby engine number.
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VerM	Nov 16 2009, 01:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #14
Getting Started Junior Member 117 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Place where number 1 is very famous	Extended Warranty Programme
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jctasoga	Nov 16 2009, 01:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #15
Getting Started Junior Member 179 posts Joined: Dec 2008 From: BP, JH	later i try n see n take pic.. hehe.. congrats on the v5
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R.Y.D.E.C.K	Nov 16 2009, 01:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #16
Getting Started Junior Member 246 posts Joined: May 2008	QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 16 2009, 01:02 PM) Extended Warranty Programme same certification receive...
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sphiroth	Nov 16 2009, 02:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #17
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,804 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Nov 16 2009, 12:41 PM) Mean Proton buy insurance n then give 5 year warranty to us? We only enjoy the insurance coverage lidat? Jack up n peep lol... Mivec is better? Only for Waja CPS isit? Means that in our consumer POV, it still the same with normal warranty. Added on November 16, 2009, 3:01 pmGB serial KF5M-42XXXXX This post has been edited by sphiroth: Nov 16 2009, 03:01 PM
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zenwarlord	Nov 16 2009, 04:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #18
Transmogrifier Senior Member 1,193 posts Joined: May 2008 From: Penang	QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 16 2009, 02:23 PM) Means that in our consumer POV, it still the same with normal warranty. Added on November 16, 2009, 3:01 pmGB serial KF5M-42XXXXX is it K-F5M-421? Anyway it's not original GB, so ur next mod is to install Mivec GB with LSD hehehe RM2.5K
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sphiroth	Nov 16 2009, 04:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #19
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,804 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Nov 16 2009, 04:25 PM) is it K-F5M-421? Anyway it's not original GB, so ur next mod is to install Mivec GB with LSD hehehe RM2.5K Just done a simple 'research'. Not much difference if upgrade to mivec gb.
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eujinee	Nov 16 2009, 04:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #20
Getting Started Junior Member 76 posts Joined: Jul 2008	wah....so fast v5...congrats.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cps go go go... Added on November 16, 2009, 4:41 pm QUOTE(VerM @ Nov 16 2009, 01:02 PM) Extended Warranty Programme aiks...i dun have geh...how to dapat??? Added on November 16, 2009, 4:41 pm QUOTE(eastwest @ Nov 16 2009, 10:13 AM) How about TT sometime in december? I'm free from 1/12- 14 dec (because my wife have to attend courses , so can be a lone renjer for a while..lol ) jom....TT This post has been edited by eujinee: Nov 16 2009, 04:41 PM
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