@crxr, if it cost u RM1300 to get new 16gb board, just buy it...
its ur lost....the item broke down in ur hands not in TS hands...
its really as simple as that....
just be responsible...

as for all ppls that behind crxr back, just imagine....
u sent ur Ferrari to a workshop for a normal service...then after u get it back ur car, it cant even ignite...
then the mechanic told u its the engine prob and need to fork RM20k for repair...
and u already knew that nothing happened to ur car before u send it to the workshop...
so will u pay the RM20k??

ya..agreed with ur statement.

After reading thru the thread

use logic.

When a technician is so called qualified he should be able to check and quote you.

Example before repair he checked everything and quotes water damage, problem this problem that stated in black and white.

Then client can choose fix it or take it back but from this situation the technician not skilled enough to repair and later find out more problem then blame the client of course the technician have to bare that responsibility. Like the other said it broke down in your hands not the client's hand




COme on imagine this i send my phone to repair the guy tells me tomorrow no problem i go he said not ready if it repeats 3 to 4 times do u get piss. Ts have fault being rude but do u remember a technician delays your phone not 1 but 2 or 3 times i will be pissed too. The logic is do you think ppl have nothing to do then keep going back to the shop or person just to get delayed? No need to work? Petrol no need money? Time is money because u as a technician do not understand it well enough we must now pay money to learn how to repair iphone? Why do we need you then?

It shows that technician is not qualified enough to repair it. In business no such thing i must understand how the bloody motherboard or internal board works its either YOU KNOW or U DO NOT.
Furthermore i understand why TS do not trust you in postage. Because u broke your promise 1 or 2 times. Later u say u post it then but what if it never reach TS hand? TS is smart he is trying to prevent that excuse to even appear.


People pay money to solve problem not pay money to create problem for themselves.



Lastly, I think is more a technician at fault here so i hope you be responsible and bare your mistake then blaming your customer or client. Remember Customer is always right in business.

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Added on June 8, 2009, 9:33 amI totally agreed with you on that. No need ferrari anything electronic devices are like that.

Example my samsung phone it had ribbon problem i send to shop after fixed yes the ribbon problem solved but it gave me a new problem earpiece problem. I brought it back to the shop and shoot the guy. He fixed that problem for me free of charge because you tell me who is so free wanna drive back there again let him fixed then another day drive back there and collect? Ppl have life

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Jun 8 2009, 09:33 AM

i dun kno if this going to be better or not. I still dun really get what crxr want to decide to solve this. I'm waiting for him like always...7 days already since 2nd of June.

Thanks.

This post has been edited by spacemanship: Jun 8 2009, 09:42 AM

[quote=aspire2oo6,Jun 8 2009, 09:24 AM]
After reading thru the thread

use logic.

When a technician is so called qualified he should be able to check and quote you.

Example before repair he checked everything and quotes water damage, problem this problem that stated in black and white.

Then client can choose fix it or take it back but from this situation the technician not skilled enough to repair and later find out more problem then blame the client of course the technician have to bare that responsibility. Like the other said it broke down in your hands not the client's hand
COme on imagine this i send my phone to repair the guy tells me tomorrow no problem i go he said not ready if it repeats 3 to 4 times do u get piss. Ts have fault being rude but do u remember a technician delays your phone not 1 but 2 or 3 times i will be pissed too. The logic is do you think ppl have nothing to do then keep going back to the shop or person just to get delayed? No need to work? Petrol no need money? Time is money because u as a technician do not understand it well enough we must now pay money to learn how to repair iphone? Why do we need you then?

It shows that technician is not qualified enough to repair it. In business no such thing i must understand how the bloody motherboard or internal board works its either YOU KNOW or U DO NOT.
Furthermore i understand why TS do not trust you in postage. Because u broke your promise 1 or 2 times. Later u say u post it then but what if it never reach TS hand? TS is smart he is trying to prevent that excuse to even appear.
People pay money to solve problem not pay money to create problem for themselves.
Lastly, I think is more a technician at fault here so i hope you be responsible and bare your mistake then blaming your customer or client. Remember Customer is always right in business.





I will try to be logical with you. I drive to meet client at their agreed place and you think I no need to spare time n money? I prefer to fix small problem on the spot to save both ourself some hassle, like you so pointed out time and money. Please get it clear to your head that I do not like to delay client, I was told to fix earpiece and I did that and it just that matter has get complicated cause of the touch issue. I at that moment do not have a used SCREEN, so I told him I need to take back with me to replace FREE OF CHARGE! and meet him the next day cause replacing a screen only need few hours and I have it at home like I told him. So later I found out the logic board got problem and I needed more time cause fixing iphone logic board is not like fixing sony or nokia, you cannot get parts in 7-11. I was trying to convey this message to TS but no, he want to bla bla away, and no, he want to insult me and my families. If reading is a difficulties to you, I can spell in out clearer for you.

1. Meet up to fix iphone at TS agreed place but touch problem complicate matter
2. Replace Free Screen meet next day
3. Next day found out logic board got problem but I still try to fix him and postpone the meeting to next day
4. I miss TS at 4AM meeting and propose to sent back to him FREE of Charge but instead call his uncle
5. I have try to no vail to get the touch to work, so I call him but TS did not ask my call, so I call the uncle
6. I explain to his uncle about the logic board problem and I cannot meet him that night as we agreed and I need more time but uncle say leaving saturday morning so I got more time
7. TS call me right after I call his uncle, so I again told him the logic board problem but he cut me off before I can propose any solution to him and Bla bla away... and follow by insult SMS.
8. Even he is rude, I still work on his phone and try to give back to his uncle before he left
9. I work until june 5th but touch still not working, knowing uncle leaving I call to see whether can meet up and explain in person to him and propose solution to him or give me more time
10. I call uncle no answer but TS sms me accusing me giving him a not working phone back, maybe he got 6 sense.
11. More SMS pissed me off and I stop working on his phone, not only TS got temper and I will not sink myself to his level


So, are you clear now!!! I try to be responsible but TS do not offer me a chance, he want me to do it his way but now only he ask me for proposal.



Oh, please remove your free bump from my sale thread cause I do not appreciate it.

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Added on June 8, 2009, 10:32 am[quote=spacemanship,Jun 8 2009, 09:35 AM]
i dun kno if this going to be better or not. I still dun really get what crxr want to decide to solve this. I'm waiting for him like always...7 days already since 2nd of June.

Thanks.

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I see you are more polite now, I will tell you what I will do. I saw your post earlier before you edit it, you ask me to pay you rm350 + a working 8gb iphone since yours is a water 16gb iphone. This is what I think:

I prefer to try to fix ur water 16gb back to you in working condition except the screen is using mine used one cause I do not want to remove again but I do need you give time more time until june 22nd cause I have order some spare parts for it.

This was what I was going to propose to your uncle when we meet up but NO, you have to be rude...


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We are not in court, please don't cut people off, let them finish what they have to said.

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 8 2009, 10:36 AM

Wait, what was the initial problem? It was the earpiece problem, right? Did you open the case to fix the earpiece problem? How did you fix the earpiece problem? Was there "screen problem" before you fix the earpiece issue?
Next, screen problem? Eventually it's the circuit board problem?
Note: If these problems started since you open the case, sorry, I must say you're responsible for it. It is just your unlucky transaction.

To TS, please keep your abusive language to yourself. You're just another piece of failed material of Malaysian education.
You are the one that approached crxr. It's your brother that recommended him. I reckon crxr earned his reputation.
He didn't deserve your insult. His family didn't deserve your abusive language too. You owe him an apology.
Learn to speak like a man.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jun 8 2009, 10:46 AM

this is the reason why I got sooo angry and frustrated with you. I waited and accpted your excuses for 3 days when I still in KL but you failed to give the machine back and suddenly told and claimed water damaged my phone.

I started this topic coz I felt cheated and I'm really not satisfied with you. I asked for my 16gb 2g working machine but you said you dun have the board for 16gb so I compromised accept the 8gb 2g working machine along asked you to pay for the damages but you never replied me and now you still giving excuses working on my claimed to be water phone?

dun you all ppl see here how I got treated from the very beginning?I get more and more excuses and denial.

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Added on June 8, 2009, 10:45 amOk, if that what you want I give you 1 more chance and I agree with it and don't say I'm not be patient to you. 22nd June is the day to wait. As long as I get my 16GB 2G working fine machine plus repaired earpiece and you still get your rm150. That's all.

This post has been edited by spacemanship: Jun 8 2009, 10:45 AM

What excuses?? I was trying my best to give you back within 3 days knowing you come from sabah but complication happened beyond my control, can I give you back a non working phone then?? You said your seller need one months to order the earpiece, so I need a few more days to fix and I offer to courier back to you FREE, is that an excuses?? After knowing is a water set, I was going to tell you and propose a solution.

So you can use the so call excuses and insult me and my famalies? Then can I call you M*R*N law grad.?

Please use your big head to think, not other parts of your bodies. Damage parts can be repair or replace, but damage to people cannot. Excuses are excuses but you cannot use it as your own excuses and INSULT people.

Oh..... I better make it clear since I am not a degree holder and you will say more excuses. The parts is coming on 21st according to my supplier, will TRY to fix it like I say on 22nd if the parts is here on the 21st, I will definitely update you on this matter here.

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 8 2009, 10:58 AM

I already accepted your offer. I give you time until end of this month. Just fix my machine back.

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Added on June 8, 2009, 10:55 amI already accepted your offer. I give you time until end of this month. Just fix my machine back.

This post has been edited by spacemanship: Jun 8 2009, 10:55 AM

Nobody is behind any body, they just share opinion. I know my responsibility, thank you. I don't own a ferrari so I do not know but I do know your imagination is wrong cause the issue is different. So lets said you sent for an oil change, the engine still runs but some accessories like air condition not working, so you will get a brand new aircond? I will sent you my car.

I'm not siding anyone here but here's my 2 cents.

spacemanship : I understand how you feel but you don't need to be an ass by being so abusive to TS and his family. Perhaps you could apologize to him for being abusive and all you can do now is seek for a solution between you and crxr to settle this for once and for all.

crxr : TS was quite abusive earlier on but I believe that you guys know that this section is Trade Zone Dispute Resolution where you guys come here to solve your dispute and not here to pick on one's attitude. Let's wipe off the abusive part after TS had apologize to you and concentrate on how to solve the dispute will you? Why don't you propose a solution to him now? How long more does TS need to wait before you could fix his stuff and return back to him?

The solution is a few thread on top of you. There shouldn't be a thread here in the first place if the TS will let me finish when he call me. I did not bring this to myself and is TS ask for it. Like I said, damage parts can be repair but not damage done to people and their families.

The parts will *probably* available on 21st and you promised delivery on 22nd?
Get a firm date from your supplier before you make a promise. A promise is a promise without "IF".
Otherwise, you'll receive smses from the law grad.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jun 8 2009, 11:46 AM

Low grad sms lol

TS already stated that he will give Crxr until the end of the month so if both party agreed with this I think both parties should just calm down and settle it.

Like barbie say, "Why stop while you having so much fun." TS took his shot on me and I am just giving him some back.

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Added on June 8, 2009, 12:14 pmYa, that's why I make it clear "if I received it on 21st," I did not said I will but I would prefer more earlier the better if I have control over it. Anyway, I will keep him updated on this thread.



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This is what you get when you do not respect the elderly, you will be old too, you know.

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 8 2009, 12:17 PM

Well just to comment this post... IF my ferrari is new in hand (or OLD but "first-hand") I might have punched him in his face for saying all the jokes to me. But since this is a second-hand phone, which we all don't know how was the condition way back in the first owner's hand, I wouldn't have done that. I might be blaming him, but at the same time I will blame the luck as well. See, if I was the owner and I accidentally wet it, I would have sold it and get some money before it spoils, leaving me with nothing in hand right? So when you buy something like that, you should clearly understand that, this phone wasn't with you from the beginning of time. WHO knows if water really sipped in?

You have to know, buying 2nd hand things are not as easy, because you will get all the complications; even when it comes to new things, you still get a chance to have something reconditioned.

Still, a normal consumer will ask for replacement and bla bla, I understand that. But if things come to something you can get in 7-11, I believe crxr would have fixed it earlier. Who would want a person to insult him to this extent? But if things are rare (just like the 16GB board), yes, give him time. Noone wants to ruin his own reputation for nothing, and this especially goes to someone who used to trade a lot in this forum.

Now, we shall stop arguing and let them have some peace in mind to wait till 22nd June.
Till then, peace!

This post has been edited by cheeyeen: Jun 8 2009, 02:01 PM

yes i like that way u explained.... so as a consumer need to understanding other parties if not the problem will getting worst ........peace

Be cool everyone... let settle in peace.

ps:- I did ask about the logic board reball before...

the fact that TS became abusive does not change the fact of this story on whether who's right and who's wrong. Please filter out these 'noises', and u an see this matter in clarity and objectively.

and please take note that earlier in this thread, earlier, crxr did not want to settle for a logic board replacement for the rm150 agreed upon.

For the 'water damage' issue, let me recap






its a simple case really, and i hope both of the involved would come to an acceptable conclusion later.

This post has been edited by zamanjaafar: Jun 8 2009, 02:22 PM

let me add some...

the water mark cant be seen by naked eyes.. unless you are SUPERMAN..(taken from previous comments);