Thanks to Hanxz for letting me know about this thread, I was waiting for it.

Since I do not read/speak Malay very well, this is my version. June 2nd, we meet up in lowyat plaza kopi club at 3pm n I was late, as usual. I already know need to replace the earpiece so I straight away go to work on the spot. FYI, the earpiece is between touchscreen ribbon n lcd ribbon, so after I put back the board to test the new earpiece, the touchscreen do not response. So I thought maybe I have a shaky hands due to long flight from usa on june 1st, I told him I will give him a working used lcd for free. So we agree to meet the next day n I proceed to meet other customer due to the long holidays. On June 3rd, we suppose meet 2-3pm but I call to change to 9pm cause I still haven't work on his phone yet. I have to admit I work on his phone on 7pm. I took his complete boards n put into my own used set phone to test for a used working lcd, I tested everthing works except the home button no working n at that time, it's already 9pm. At this time, his mum call n I told her still working on it cause now need to transfer my used lcd to his set. I said I need at least 2 hours more to finish transfer n testing, so we agreed to meet 4 o'clock cause they leave at 6 o'clock and this is where the disaster start. Due to my broken malay, I thought we are meeting at 4pm june 4th and I have plenty of time to spare, I did not work on his phone that night and slept at 12am. On june 4th 10am when I woke up, my phone was off so I charge it. When power on, I received tons of miss call n sms. Only then I realized he meant to meet at 4am in the morning. I have to admit I misunderstood and I never woke up so early before. I sms back to apologize and promised to courier the phone back to him at no xtra charge to him. He said no need cause his uncle still in town, I can pass to him between 7pm and 9pm. At 2pm, I went to meet my friend a technician in lowyat n I pass his phone to him, telling him to transfer the my lcd to his set and I left to see other customer. Around 6pm, my friend call me said he has try to fix it 10 times already and the touch still does not work. So I went over at 7pm, I brought with me a set of 8gb complete board to test on his set and the touch screen works. I also test on his removed lcd and guess what, it also works. After close inspection by my friend, we noticed that the touch screen connector area got some light water damaged. So I call him to tell him but no answer. I call his uncle at 9pm to explain to him and I say I will try my best to get it work again if possible but need more times. He said he is leaving on saturday morning so I still have one day to work on it. Right after talking to his uncle, he call n I tried to explain to him light water damage board is giving the touch problem but he cut me off n bla bla away n hang up on me. After that, I start to received sms from him. Even though he is ignorant, I still work on the phone the next day trying to get the touch to work but no vail till 9pm, I call his uncle thinking to show him and prove to him the lcd is no problem is the board problem, I end up received more SMS. I only meet him once and the rest of the time is call and sms. He do not give me a chance to explain. That's all I have to said.

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Added on June 7, 2009, 12:32 amThe water mark was not trigger on the comm board, I think water sip thru the earpiece causing the earpiece to malfunction. His phone is still with me, I can let you take a shot at it to see if you can see the water damage with your naked eye cause I have let other technician took a gooood look at it already

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 7 2009, 12:32 AM

I did better, I replace a good working complete screen for free but the only problem is, the touch function do not work due to his damage board giving problem. Free screen is as far as I can go and I honor my promise, but free logic board is out of the question, do understand that replace earpiece got nothing to do with the board and I did not sell him the used water phone. Just to remind you, his screen is WORKING fine with my board. Hmm..... maybe I should do a video.

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Added on June 7, 2009, 1:00 amLike I said, it's not that, it's the board problem

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 7 2009, 01:03 AM

Was browsing around, I like this bro signature, just to share.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1054451

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 7 2009, 01:08 AM

I do not have 16gb logic board with me, I was going to propose to hjm a 8gb in exchage of his problem board + rm100 and the outstanding on the replace earpiece but he cut me off.

Light water damage phone problem will show up slowly if you do nothing to it. I separate board from the set to replace the earpiece accelerate the problems. Heavy water damage render phone useless immediately, u can verify by trying or asking any phone technician.

I want to get this over with, if the TS can pay me rm200, he can have a working 8gb iphone back. That's the best I can do.

What I try to said, dismantle complete board from mid section and reconnect back will not render touch function not to work unless the board itself already has problems but doesn't up initially. I would said it was working at the first meet up and stop working right after in front of TS present hence I propose FREE screen.

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Added on June 7, 2009, 1:56 amThanks Nokia but I do not think he is a reasonable boy, just look at the SMS he sent, a lawyer to be maybe? I only try to fix his phone and in return all the personal attack SMS to me and my family. The list - rm100 for the 8gb board, rm50 for the earpiece n rm50 to cover the courier fee to sabah.

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 7 2009, 02:04 AM

Phone is not pc, you do not carry your pc around, you will not put it to the washer with your clothes, you drop it from the table....etc. phone suffer more abuse than pc, all this will/might have some effect on the phone cause the shock.... The phone here lcd is no problem, only the logic board due to slight water damage. dismantle the board will not render the touch function not to work, if just dismantle a board from the mid section to repair iphone will render phone malfunction, then repairing an iphone will cost at least rm600 cause need to replace board for every repair. The main issue here is the board has slight water damage n cannot see with naked EYE unless you are SUPERMAN, which I am not when we meet on the first day. I have repair/dismantle more than 100 sets of iphone, if I can damage a board so easily, then I must be stupid to repair phone for people for rm150 knowing I have replace logic board for every dismantle work.

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 7 2009, 04:34 PM

I think it's hard to settle this cause you want me to do it your way, I think your offer is the solution you want me to propose to you and your apology is not accepted. You are no a kid, you never think before you speak/SMS. Angry is not an excuse, try tell to the judge you kill someone cause you are angry. As I have pointed out, I have no 16gb logic board on hand, so why don't you tell me what to do since you are so EDUCATED!!

Trust me, I want to get this over with as soon as possible cause I do not like to have this law grad. on my back and SMS in the middle of the night with some Good WORD of advice to me or my families, or bless me in the morning to cheat more people. If not mistaken, a used working (hopefully no water damage) 16gb logic board will cost anyway from rm450 to rm600. Simple calculation, a used 16gb set by itself should run rm1300 - rm300 for the lcd, rm500 for the comm board n rm500 for the logic board.



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I might be old but I am wise and self control, you might be young but stupid and rude. I rather be old then young.

I think you lost me due to your pointing. You say I cannot work within the time frame, I should throw the bloody phone back to him? or I should continue to work on his phone and fulfill my responsibility? So I should put a halt on my other work and work full time on his phone, if not I am taking my customer for a spin? and this will make you angry and give you the right to SMS people with all the INSULTING WORD like I quote "MAYB U DUN EVEN KNO HOW TO FCK! LEARN FRM UR PARENTS LA!" If you like to be people's shoes, I can forward all to you. The downgrade is the later matter, not earlier.



Are you an iphone technician? Do you know how the connectors works? I am not SUPERMAN, I cannot see the slight water damage. Like I say, the water marks is not trigger cause the water sip thru the earpiece.

If you do not know the design n construction of the iphone, do not talk technical to me cause I know already. iPhone spare parts is not easy to find, I am trying my best to get the water set to work, I just need some time. I need to work too, I cannot spent all my time on his phone. I think I am a responsible person, I offer a FREE SCREEN cause I thought I broke the touch sensor, not connector!! Then after that, it was the logic board problem. I only got to tell his uncle the problem n the TS call me back n bla bla away without giving a chance to propose a solution and follow suit with all his GOOD ADVISE. Only he got the right to insult me and later try to apologies.

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Added on June 7, 2009, 10:00 pmOh... I am online alright but at the same time, I am working on your water phone. Please don't make false accusation like "he has the all the time to do some water damage to my phone and try to get more money from me". I know I am not rich like you and do not have a policeman uncle, but I am responsible and I earn my money the right way!!

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 7 2009, 10:00 PM

[quote=aspire2oo6,Jun 8 2009, 09:24 AM]
After reading thru the thread

use logic.

When a technician is so called qualified he should be able to check and quote you.

Example before repair he checked everything and quotes water damage, problem this problem that stated in black and white.

Then client can choose fix it or take it back but from this situation the technician not skilled enough to repair and later find out more problem then blame the client of course the technician have to bare that responsibility. Like the other said it broke down in your hands not the client's hand
COme on imagine this i send my phone to repair the guy tells me tomorrow no problem i go he said not ready if it repeats 3 to 4 times do u get piss. Ts have fault being rude but do u remember a technician delays your phone not 1 but 2 or 3 times i will be pissed too. The logic is do you think ppl have nothing to do then keep going back to the shop or person just to get delayed? No need to work? Petrol no need money? Time is money because u as a technician do not understand it well enough we must now pay money to learn how to repair iphone? Why do we need you then?

It shows that technician is not qualified enough to repair it. In business no such thing i must understand how the bloody motherboard or internal board works its either YOU KNOW or U DO NOT.
Furthermore i understand why TS do not trust you in postage. Because u broke your promise 1 or 2 times. Later u say u post it then but what if it never reach TS hand? TS is smart he is trying to prevent that excuse to even appear.
People pay money to solve problem not pay money to create problem for themselves.
Lastly, I think is more a technician at fault here so i hope you be responsible and bare your mistake then blaming your customer or client. Remember Customer is always right in business.





I will try to be logical with you. I drive to meet client at their agreed place and you think I no need to spare time n money? I prefer to fix small problem on the spot to save both ourself some hassle, like you so pointed out time and money. Please get it clear to your head that I do not like to delay client, I was told to fix earpiece and I did that and it just that matter has get complicated cause of the touch issue. I at that moment do not have a used SCREEN, so I told him I need to take back with me to replace FREE OF CHARGE! and meet him the next day cause replacing a screen only need few hours and I have it at home like I told him. So later I found out the logic board got problem and I needed more time cause fixing iphone logic board is not like fixing sony or nokia, you cannot get parts in 7-11. I was trying to convey this message to TS but no, he want to bla bla away, and no, he want to insult me and my families. If reading is a difficulties to you, I can spell in out clearer for you.

1. Meet up to fix iphone at TS agreed place but touch problem complicate matter
2. Replace Free Screen meet next day
3. Next day found out logic board got problem but I still try to fix him and postpone the meeting to next day
4. I miss TS at 4AM meeting and propose to sent back to him FREE of Charge but instead call his uncle
5. I have try to no vail to get the touch to work, so I call him but TS did not ask my call, so I call the uncle
6. I explain to his uncle about the logic board problem and I cannot meet him that night as we agreed and I need more time but uncle say leaving saturday morning so I got more time
7. TS call me right after I call his uncle, so I again told him the logic board problem but he cut me off before I can propose any solution to him and Bla bla away... and follow by insult SMS.
8. Even he is rude, I still work on his phone and try to give back to his uncle before he left
9. I work until june 5th but touch still not working, knowing uncle leaving I call to see whether can meet up and explain in person to him and propose solution to him or give me more time
10. I call uncle no answer but TS sms me accusing me giving him a not working phone back, maybe he got 6 sense.
11. More SMS pissed me off and I stop working on his phone, not only TS got temper and I will not sink myself to his level


So, are you clear now!!! I try to be responsible but TS do not offer me a chance, he want me to do it his way but now only he ask me for proposal.



Oh, please remove your free bump from my sale thread cause I do not appreciate it.

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Added on June 8, 2009, 10:32 am[quote=spacemanship,Jun 8 2009, 09:35 AM]
i dun kno if this going to be better or not. I still dun really get what crxr want to decide to solve this. I'm waiting for him like always...7 days already since 2nd of June.

Thanks.

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I see you are more polite now, I will tell you what I will do. I saw your post earlier before you edit it, you ask me to pay you rm350 + a working 8gb iphone since yours is a water 16gb iphone. This is what I think:

I prefer to try to fix ur water 16gb back to you in working condition except the screen is using mine used one cause I do not want to remove again but I do need you give time more time until june 22nd cause I have order some spare parts for it.

This was what I was going to propose to your uncle when we meet up but NO, you have to be rude...


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We are not in court, please don't cut people off, let them finish what they have to said.

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 8 2009, 10:36 AM

What excuses?? I was trying my best to give you back within 3 days knowing you come from sabah but complication happened beyond my control, can I give you back a non working phone then?? You said your seller need one months to order the earpiece, so I need a few more days to fix and I offer to courier back to you FREE, is that an excuses?? After knowing is a water set, I was going to tell you and propose a solution.

So you can use the so call excuses and insult me and my famalies? Then can I call you M*R*N law grad.?

Please use your big head to think, not other parts of your bodies. Damage parts can be repair or replace, but damage to people cannot. Excuses are excuses but you cannot use it as your own excuses and INSULT people.

Oh..... I better make it clear since I am not a degree holder and you will say more excuses. The parts is coming on 21st according to my supplier, will TRY to fix it like I say on 22nd if the parts is here on the 21st, I will definitely update you on this matter here.

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 8 2009, 10:58 AM

Nobody is behind any body, they just share opinion. I know my responsibility, thank you. I don't own a ferrari so I do not know but I do know your imagination is wrong cause the issue is different. So lets said you sent for an oil change, the engine still runs but some accessories like air condition not working, so you will get a brand new aircond? I will sent you my car.

The solution is a few thread on top of you. There shouldn't be a thread here in the first place if the TS will let me finish when he call me. I did not bring this to myself and is TS ask for it. Like I said, damage parts can be repair but not damage done to people and their families.

Like barbie say, "Why stop while you having so much fun." TS took his shot on me and I am just giving him some back.

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Added on June 8, 2009, 12:14 pmYa, that's why I make it clear "if I received it on 21st," I did not said I will but I would prefer more earlier the better if I have control over it. Anyway, I will keep him updated on this thread.



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This is what you get when you do not respect the elderly, you will be old too, you know.

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 8 2009, 12:17 PM

I will make it short for you too.
Board was never open, try google and learn something.
Get your facts right before you comment.

Ok, I will keep in mind that not to repair your stuff cause you will sue me. Like I said, that is a water set and complication is beyond my control. But then again, I think you will sent to the dealer to fix anyway cause you can sue them for more money. I mean this in a nice way too.

If you are tech-illiterate, then don't comment cause I cannot comprehend what you try to say with all the lawyer's jargon( if... but ...also). There is NO possibility that I could damage the board cause it's a sandwich piece and all the importance IC is sandwich in between.

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Added on June 8, 2009, 10:48 pmthe logic and comm board are on top of each other with a battery attach to the bottom end of the comm board. All the importance IC is sandwich in between. I have to remove this complete sandwich board with battery in order to replace the earpiece. I have done this on the spot for few bro in this forum before and all working without any complication.

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Added on June 8, 2009, 11:06 pmU got me..
U are the shortest

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 8 2009, 11:06 PM

No, I did not cause I am late. I need to be more professional like a surgeon, better bring a letter of indemnity with me the next time I repair iphone if not I will get sue. If they sign is rm150, if not rm600 or no deal to cover my ass.

Make it short ... lesson learn
No explanation, will bring letter of indemnity the next time.
Sign rm155, else rm600 or no surgery will be perform.
Just remember need xtra rm5 to cover stationaries and filing..... lol.


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Maybe should take some crash course on laws in order to stay alive.

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 9 2009, 01:22 AM