i've been following this situation rite from da begining...
1stly, u being a law grad, shud at least know how 2 talk 2 ppl...u cant just be rude to them and be ignorant at da same time
2nd, ur iphone, like u said, is a 2nd hand unit. no one noes how the previous owner used it.
he might or u mite have accidentally caused sm amount of water 2 go into da phone...so i suggest u quit pointing at crxr and tink for abit
if u can wait, let crxr get a 16gb logic board and we shall see how r the charges for tat...
if u cant wait, then accept da 8gb board...

@crxr, how much is a 16gb board ya?

If this problem cause by light water damage, normally only some connection is lose... Can logic board reball make it back to normal again.

Correct me if I wrong.

ps:- don't ask me how to do it... I don't have professional tools to do myself.

Trust me, I want to get this over with as soon as possible cause I do not like to have this law grad. on my back and SMS in the middle of the night with some Good WORD of advice to me or my families, or bless me in the morning to cheat more people. If not mistaken, a used working (hopefully no water damage) 16gb logic board will cost anyway from rm450 to rm600. Simple calculation, a used 16gb set by itself should run rm1300 - rm300 for the lcd, rm500 for the comm board n rm500 for the logic board.



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I might be old but I am wise and self control, you might be young but stupid and rude. I rather be old then young.

you can say anything you want about my attitude, no problem. but settle your problem first. ok you give me back 8GB 2G working machine and I want you to pay for the damages coz i lost my 16gb. so how much you're willing to pay?you are not the only one that want to get over with this a.s.a.p. just reply me here and settle this. no need to waste time anymore.

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Added on June 7, 2009, 8:04 pmi know how to talk to ppl but not the one that being denial and irresponsible.the important thing I used it for months already and working fine except for the earpiece. if i accept the 8gb crxr suppose to pay me for the damages.

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Added on June 7, 2009, 8:07 pmi can't wait but i want to accept the 8gb 2g working machine but crxr need to pay me for the damages coz I lost my 16gb. That's the best I can think of now.



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This post has been edited by spacemanship: Jun 7 2009, 08:15 PM

i think csxr give you 8gb i phone..
settle...

tk payah byr2..

really no need to pay and mine was 16gb??I don't think so.

@ crxr

at this rate, i reckon that you will need to top up a little, in addition to, produce a working 8Gb iPhone.

i can only say that it is your bad luck to encounter something like this, and like all business propositions, there are bound to contain risks.

just treat the immaturity of TS as an added on injury to the bad luck.


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not wanting to make this personal, but you are far from claimed.

This post has been edited by nokia2003: Jun 7 2009, 08:25 PM

seriously, crxr, i want to point out something here. if you think you cannot work on TS's iphone within the speculated time (which you agreed attending to 7pm the next day), why the hell did you take it? where's your part of the responsibility? you claim to have so many other stuffs to do, but you simply just take your customers for a ride? seriously, trying to fit myself into TS's shoes, i'd be flashing angry too. someone out of no where fixes my earpiece, then tells me water damaged this and that, and asks me for another RM200 to downgrade my iphone, i'd get furious too!

someone earlier talked about taking the risk to repair? so person who's repairing also has to take the risk of further complicating other damages right? fact is, you accelerated the damage. and being in the situation where you are now, there isn't anyone else to be blamed. if you knew that opening the logic board would accelerate the damage, couldn't you have checked for the seepage of water inside it before you actually work on it? or is it another case of the technician knowing nothing about his work?

and TS, just a word, even if the person is uneducated or what, you have no rights to insult anyone like that. that brings you to a level worst than even human beings. i know you must be frustrated, as i too, if being put in the same situation will be too! so now, since this problem has gone public, probably there would be an easier way to settle things here. RM50 for sending it back to sabah? seriously, it's your fault as the technician, and charging him that fee would be inappropriate when you could have troubleshoot it when he was there.

Well ehm not standing on any side... But I think he shouldn't have topped up for the so-called damages on the 16gb... Since he already promised to return you a fully functioning iphone 2G...

AND... TBH... Buying any second-hand phone has certain risk... Think... Why did the seller of the iphone ignore when you complained? There must be a hidden problem behind all these right? NOONE knows how the previous owner used it; he might have dropped it on some wet places, or even worse, into the washing machine (for a second or two, picked it up, and sold it away before the damage took place).

I had a phone dropped into a pile of water (IN THE RAIN), and the phone only started to show signs after half a year... So I understand what crxr is trying to explain.

Quoting from so many other posts, if slight water damage is not visible, then I can only say that... BOTH of you were too unlucky on that spot of time.

Well crxr, you are just unlucky to have this... Just take it as a bad day =)

By the way, the words in the conversations hurt my eyes... *nod nod* a law degree holder SHOULD NOT say that.

"I KICKED HIM ON HIS *** BECAUSE I'M ANGRY" (Police says: OK you may go now... )

Peace

the seller sold me the machine and I think he already knew the earpiece problem and it was also my fault for not fully inspecting the machine on that time but I came back to tell the seller and the seller said I have to pay rm300 but still he cannot confirmed the exact amount. He said he already ordered the earpiece part but for 1 months I waited and asked him still the same excuses. I guessed he never wanted to order it from the beginning coz he mayb don't have any expertise in fixing iPhone. it's just waiting my time and life goes on with the machine I bought coz I still can use it for many things except i can't hear ppl when they call. I can use headset but it's too troublesome.

This post has been edited by spacemanship: Jun 7 2009, 09:12 PM

so thr is always a possibility tat he mite hv not told u tat its maybe more than just da earpiece which is faulty
its just bad luck for maybe both of u 2...
both of u shd give in and cm 2 an agreement...

tat is up to both of u on how 2 reach an agreement

all features works fine except the earpiece before handed it over to crxr. I'm waiting for crxr reply on my proposed solution. I know he's online but i don't want to rush him and get complaint for my attitude again.

This post has been edited by spacemanship: Jun 7 2009, 09:38 PM

I think you lost me due to your pointing. You say I cannot work within the time frame, I should throw the bloody phone back to him? or I should continue to work on his phone and fulfill my responsibility? So I should put a halt on my other work and work full time on his phone, if not I am taking my customer for a spin? and this will make you angry and give you the right to SMS people with all the INSULTING WORD like I quote "MAYB U DUN EVEN KNO HOW TO FCK! LEARN FRM UR PARENTS LA!" If you like to be people's shoes, I can forward all to you. The downgrade is the later matter, not earlier.



Are you an iphone technician? Do you know how the connectors works? I am not SUPERMAN, I cannot see the slight water damage. Like I say, the water marks is not trigger cause the water sip thru the earpiece.

If you do not know the design n construction of the iphone, do not talk technical to me cause I know already. iPhone spare parts is not easy to find, I am trying my best to get the water set to work, I just need some time. I need to work too, I cannot spent all my time on his phone. I think I am a responsible person, I offer a FREE SCREEN cause I thought I broke the touch sensor, not connector!! Then after that, it was the logic board problem. I only got to tell his uncle the problem n the TS call me back n bla bla away without giving a chance to propose a solution and follow suit with all his GOOD ADVISE. Only he got the right to insult me and later try to apologies.

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Added on June 7, 2009, 10:00 pmOh... I am online alright but at the same time, I am working on your water phone. Please don't make false accusation like "he has the all the time to do some water damage to my phone and try to get more money from me". I know I am not rich like you and do not have a policeman uncle, but I am responsible and I earn my money the right way!!

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 7 2009, 10:00 PM

The main point that we're trying to show you is that that particular iPhone that you've bought might have already been damaged by the previous owner or the seller before you got it in your hands. Its just that the effect had not shown up when you handed it to crxr. He might be in the wrong place for "ACCELERATING" the damage, but at least he had made an effort to replace the 16GB with an 8GB iPhone, which I think is adequate to compensate, not to mention the water damage is not caused by him.

If you doubt his words you can always bring your phone to someone you trust to prove it. Please don't take your location as an excuse, I'm sure your relatives are willing to help you in this.

In my PERSONAL opinion (no offence), you are kinda stern with your so-called solution, when he has been trying to give you a few other choices. Maybe you should learn how to give and take? Being stubborn is never a way to solve problems.

Yes, (from posts much earlier), this is not about manner of conduct, BUT it is about how to deal with life and people, right?

I've read the thread from page 1 to 4..
No matter how I look at it I only can see that the "Technician" is at fault..

The device "Broke Down" in your hand bro that is a fact that you can't deny..
so just give the guy the workable machine la bro..
in any business there is up and down so this is one of you down turn la..

is it worth it for your reputation?"
now your reputation got "Scratch" a bit, if you don't settle this your "Scratch" might turn into a "Hole"..

future customer who look at this thread might think that crxr is not a efficient n irresponsible technician.
Customer is always right maa..he gave you a working device if you spoiled it you pay la..
so just give the guy what he want la..even if you have to loose a bit now..in the future you might gain more right?

@ zerokidz

incorrect. if crxr is indeed innocent and he got a damaged unit before hand, i quote you "so just give the guy what he want la", will not only be unjustifiable and a breach of life principles as well (after all the verbal abuse and threats inflicted upon by TS)

there is no concrete proof on either side of the party as each has claimed the vice versa. but TS is tentatively seeking everything to his advantage without compromising.

This post has been edited by nokia2003: Jun 7 2009, 10:53 PM

TS claims that ONLY the ear piece is a PROBLEM at hand and crxr also know that ONLY the ear piece is broken at that time(cuz he open it in front of the customer of course la he need to confirm the ear piece before start opening the body of the iPhone, cuz he got a lot of experience what he is not a newbie)..but after he open it other stuff got damage..so still crxr is at fault..

verbal abuse and threats should be put aside..a police man cannot put you in jail if you BROKE an IPHONE without a warrant..my uncle is a police man too..not only his uncle is a police man..a police man is not ALONG who "potong jari if lari maa"..

crxr HAND broke the item in discuss..so he should pay..water damage la logic board damage la all that happen when he open the ITEM at hand..so his fault..I don't have an iPhone but if I've one I don't want to send it to a technician that is irresponsible if he broke it..to me as a customer I seek for a repair because it is cheaper than buying a NEW one..if the technician give a lot of excuses to me he does not know what he is doing and trying to cheat on me..straight forward man..if cannot fix say cannot fix it..don't give a bunch of excuses..YOU are the TECHNICIAN and you should take responsibility upon your WORK..

This post has been edited by zerokidz: Jun 7 2009, 11:13 PM

huh???!!! there are a lot of materials which i cannot possibly digest

which materials?
If possible I would like to make the statement clearer..

I am not on anybody side though..If I am wrong point me to my incorrect statement..

we really in need of blacklist, case of non working vs working seller list.
i dunno why people dont want such list, sooner or later lyn will flooded with con unannounced
at least a seller should be told how many success and how many miserably fail like this.
anyway, thanks TC for telling us the story
you should win your case because this one is so obvious, costumer is always right