I had good experience dealing in crxr before, but when you are a technician you needs to be responsible for stuffs you are fixing. And it the fixing was done in the public, where everyone is there to judge. If you are TS, some one "broke" your iPhone in front of you what will you do.

TS, because you are angry, doesnt mean you should act like a moron. This shows how stupid an educated man can be. No wonder Msia education dont produce talent anymore.

yepz..i know..I only want ppl to be the judge and as witnesses coz when we come to the conclusion and the end of this what we agreed to settle this problem..this thread will be as an evidence and claimed referral.

anyway thanks..

i would really like to see a picture of the two of u shaking hands to end this thread

@spaceman
try reading the replies you sent to crxr, and compare those that he sent you.
I'm surprised crxr had not retaliated to your insults which are bridging on to personal attacks and provoke.
We all have emotions behind that keyboard and phone that we are communicating with, if someone would just fcuk you on the street suddenly just like that, what would you do?

So what if you have a degree? Every tom, d*** and harry on the street has one.
Those SMS don't even reflect an inch of that educated side of yours, if what crxr had said is the truth (which i would tend to believe), he have already extended an olive branch to you by offering the 8GB working replacement.

ShIt happens and neither you nor crxr would want this to occur, there's only one approach which can solve this issue amicably which is give and take.
as to what another forummer had said, there's no official iPhone 2G repair in M'sia and there is definitely a risk when you make that decision to ask somebody to open the phone up.

So what's your stand bro?

i do happen to agree with =Hanxz= on this one. even though (biased issue aside), i know =Hanxz= personally as a friend.

clearly there is a misunderstanding over here, which is caused ultimately by the language barrier. the truth is despite bahasa malaysia being the official one, not many could comprehend it as well as you do.

in regards to this issue, as far as i know, the 16GB version is pretty limited and scarce in the "used parts" market. hence it may take crxr a while to scout one for you.

however, if you are not keen on the 8GB, i suggest that you lay out clearly in black and white here and to crxr and you are willingly to provide him with adequate time. no more spewing out obscenities or profanities.

"Sabar Itu Separuh Daripada Iman"





This post has been edited by nokia2003: Jun 7 2009, 02:29 PM

The insults aside, because I can understand his frustration. (Not justifying the swearing though)

You are being biased. Look at it from a Client - Technician aspect.

When the client passed the phone to the technician, everything but the ear piece was working.

Now the technician want to pass back a non working iphone to the client.

Instead of agreeing to fix the problem, he wants to charge more money and give back a 8gb iphone from the 16 which was originally given to him.

TBH, this can be said that the technician is taking advantage, and there is nothing wrong with the 16 gb in the first place, he trying to replace a cheaper product with what he was originally given.

I dont see how this is fair.

Like you said, theres no official iPhone 2g repairer, but when the technician took it, he should have opened it up and check for this damages and showed it to the client and gave some kind of disclaimer and say, I will try to fix it, but look at this part, it looks like water damage, the phone might have some problems.

The technician didnt, and thus voided and claims he has to "damage done".

To be fair, he should take this as a lesson and give the client back a working iphone as he promised and let bygone be bygones. Let this be a lesson to the technician.

Facts .
1. When item was given to technician with so called (water damage) Iphone touch screen was still working
2. In the hands of technician, touch screen ceased to work due to (acceleration of water damage ) wtv that means.

There is no way that technician can prove it was due to client that the phone touch screen ceased to work. Therefore it is only fair, that technician take responsibility and fix the problem for free (or with an additional charge, 50 to me sounds alright) or replace the clients iphone with one of equal value and specifications.

Im trying to be fair to both side, and from the facts, this is what i deem fair to both sides.

Technician , cant just say it was due to client that the phone cant work. when the phone was passed to him, everything was working all right.

@omnimech
I am being BIASED, based on the insults that guy had threw on crxr,
if he had just kept silent and reported the case here, my ball would be in his court and not crxr's

This is largely due to the fact that, I am a service provider myself and customer first motto being the international known fact, this does not mean customers can abuse that right of theirs and spew shiat like no other.

You don't know what you're talking about sir, charging an additional RM50 can't fix the problem, the logic board is like the MOBO of your PSP.
SO if your psp's mobo is damaged, is RM50 sufficient to fix it?

what else do you expect from an angry guy to do?I'm not asking him to replace it with the new one or 8gb 3G or money. I'm done giving him time and we already wasting it until today. If he said that he will not guarantee the machine will works after he opened it and tell me clearly what can happen and I agreed on it, that's ok. I also expected the earpiece repair process successful and if not at least I get my machine works fine like the first time i let him touched it. this is no black and white but it based on trust an responsibility. I am responsible on what I said to him and I said sorry but why need to argue about victim's attitude when we already knew he'll pissed and from the first we sms each other, he never say anything about admitting and sorry for cannot meeting us and never tell earlier that he can't make it. I can easily considered it as rude also coz I'm not the only one that waited him for hours, my mother also with me along that time coz only both of us went to KL. If he said I don't respect him I can say he don't respect us as well. We waited and waited for empty promised. I have the rights to get angry and he has the rights to be offended but he must solved this until we get an agreement.

wow. joined today and fresh of the boat, with a post here.

you must share a heavy sentiment to compel yourself so greatly.

Like I said, your being biased. (So basically, if a client get angry at you, you can choose not to serve him ? and you dare say ur a service provider. Im not goin to defend ts, but thats besides the point)

I know what a logic board is, do not patronize me.

If it was my own fault that my PSP was spoilt, I will gladly pay for the repair, or purchase a new one.

But that is besides the point, you are trying to redirect the purpose of my post.

If i send the PSP to you to repair a faulty button, and you call me back and tell me, Ur psp cant start, mobo problem, probably caused by me dropping it too much.

How is that fair ? When I gave you the psp, it could turn on and work. only the button wasnt working.

Now you want to charge me to repair it ? Paying 50 bucks to me is overkill alraedy , since its added cost from what i originally paid you to do .

This post has been edited by omnimech: Jun 7 2009, 02:56 PM

@=Hanxz=

I'm also in a freelance pc repair service for part time, and I have no problems admitting to customer if I messed up and I can't do it. If I have to pay or replace I'll do it. This is how you become a service provider and it's in the service business category. If you don't want to be responsible and don't want customer to be angry at you don't do business from the beginning.

This post has been edited by spacemanship: Jun 7 2009, 03:17 PM

yes.. i joined today, because my friend told me some jerk dont want to admit what he did and got support, in the result will cause my friend's problem will be ignored and the guy win this thread...

even 1 pixel of LCD screen lose, customer already noisy to ask for replacement... how about 1 malfuntion touch screen?..

This post has been edited by adxicible: Jun 7 2009, 03:57 PM

oic. good to hear that you are an acquaintance of TS.

that way, things will work towards a more transparent outcome.

Phone is not pc, you do not carry your pc around, you will not put it to the washer with your clothes, you drop it from the table....etc. phone suffer more abuse than pc, all this will/might have some effect on the phone cause the shock.... The phone here lcd is no problem, only the logic board due to slight water damage. dismantle the board will not render the touch function not to work, if just dismantle a board from the mid section to repair iphone will render phone malfunction, then repairing an iphone will cost at least rm600 cause need to replace board for every repair. The main issue here is the board has slight water damage n cannot see with naked EYE unless you are SUPERMAN, which I am not when we meet on the first day. I have repair/dismantle more than 100 sets of iphone, if I can damage a board so easily, then I must be stupid to repair phone for people for rm150 knowing I have replace logic board for every dismantle work.

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 7 2009, 04:34 PM

1. yes i do, i can choose who not to serve and who to serve, prior to our service deal.
2. If you know the cost of the hardware, you would not even state RM50 for starters.
3. I do agree that crxr have to be responsible in this scenario but this does not warrant TS to spew out all the profanities out.

btw, i'm just using PSP as a metaphor or figure of speech, and it does not reflect what you are trying to say here.
I am being BIASED to stress TS's uncouth behavior towards others.

I've stated my point which is you being rude, and telling all the grandmother stories of your uncle being a police and your family in the oil palm business to intimidate others.
You're just trying to throw your weight around like a bully in the school's playground.

Bickering with you on service providing would not be productive for me, when my point all this while is pointing towards your impertinent manner of conduct.

[quote=crxr,Jun 7 2009, 04:32 PM]Phone is not pc, you do not carry your pc around, you will not put it to the washer with your clothes, you drop it from the table....etc. phone suffer more abuse than pc, all this will/might have some effect on the phone cause the shock.... The phone here lcd is no problem, only the logic board due to slight water damage. dismantle the board will not render the touch function not to work, if just dismantle a board from the mid section to repair iphone will render phone malfunction, then repairing an iphone  will cost at least rm600 cause need to replace board for every repair. The main issue here is the board has slight water damage n cannot see with naked EYE unless you are SUPERMAN, which  I am not when we meet on the first day. I have repair/dismantle more than 100 sets of iphone, if I can damage a board so easily, then I must be stupid to repair phone for people for rm150 knowing I have replace logic board for every dismantle work.

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PC=Personal Computer can be a laptop that you can carry around. I just now asked you n even sms u politely, seems you still explaining it deep and still don't have solution that we can both agreed.

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Added on June 7, 2009, 5:03 pmbtw, i'm just using PSP as a metaphor or figure of speech, and it does not reflect what you are trying to say here.
I am being BIASED to stress TS's uncouth behavior towards others.
I've stated my point which is you being rude, and telling all the grandmother stories of your uncle being a police and your family in the oil palm business to intimidate others.
You're just trying to throw your weight around like a bully in the school's playground.

Bickering with you on service providing would not be productive for me, when my point all this while is pointing towards your impertinent manner of conduct.

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btw, I don't expect you to understand coz you're not in my situation. This about tangible things, iphone and money. I did not open this dispute topic to discuss feelings matters and manner of conduct.

This post has been edited by spacemanship: Jun 7 2009, 05:17 PM

I think it's hard to settle this cause you want me to do it your way, I think your offer is the solution you want me to propose to you and your apology is not accepted. You are no a kid, you never think before you speak/SMS. Angry is not an excuse, try tell to the judge you kill someone cause you are angry. As I have pointed out, I have no 16gb logic board on hand, so why don't you tell me what to do since you are so EDUCATED!!

@ crxr

how much time do you need to scout for a 16GB? estimated


p/s it hurts my eyes and sends chill down my spine seeing those text messages in capital letters, especially the second last one.

This post has been edited by nokia2003: Jun 7 2009, 05:24 PM

I already told you what to do but you said you don't have 16gb logic board then you want me to accept 8gb??that's your best solution?ok..if you want me to accept 8gb I want opinions from others forumer whether i need to accept it but you have to pay me for making me lost my 16gb, propose to me the reasonable price i shoud ask from you?

or..I don't agree.

problem is, how long are you willing to wait? items like these (like i have mentioned here) are hard to come by.

*disclaimer: i'm not in any way affiliated with crxr. regulars in the iPhone forum can prove this.