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meltC
post Jun 8 2009, 06:26 PM

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On behalf of the law grads... I think most of us don't behave like TS and most of us are proficient in English so next time TS try to reconfirm everything in a language understood by both and not just a single party (not to say I think you're wrong for asking him to give u back what was originally agreed upon). Anyways, crxr, next time try to be more subtle when you give a "predictive" date or time. Cause if you broke my 2nd hand or 3rd hand anything and keep ffk-ing me, I think I'll sue you. tongue.gif I mean this in the nicest way. Cause in trade a promise should be acted upon.


Crxr:
I'm tech-illiterate but I think if it were 2nd hand it could have latent problems but it is rather lame to blame it all on latent defects and deny all responsibilities. Just admit that there is a possibility of such action on your part that caused this damage but explain that there is also a possibility that there are latent defects from the phone AND ALSO that you ARE paying back for the damage in part (due to the endless possibilities of ifs and maybes) but it would be harsh to expect you to completely reimburse a 2nd hand iphone (of which condition is dubious in the first place).

Anyways, I supposed both of you have already reached an amicable solution. But TS please bear (and to all the thread readers it's not "bare" i mean it with the best intentions) with the possibility of a further delay due to the logistics of delivery (I really think crxr should plead tis before just conveniently profess to be able to deliver on time).

Cheers!
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post Jun 8 2009, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(cheeyeen @ Jun 8 2009, 01:57 PM)
Well just to comment this post... IF my ferrari is new in hand (or OLD but "first-hand") I might have punched him in his face for saying all the jokes to me. But since this is a second-hand phone, which we all don't know how was the condition way back in the first owner's hand, I wouldn't have done that. I might be blaming him, but at the same time I will blame the luck as well. See, if I was the owner and I accidentally wet it, I would have sold it and get some money before it spoils, leaving me with nothing in hand right? So when you buy something like that, you should clearly understand that, this phone wasn't with you from the beginning of time. WHO knows if water really sipped in?

You have to know, buying 2nd hand things are not as easy, because you will get all the complications; even when it comes to new things, you still get a chance to have something reconditioned.

Still, a normal consumer will ask for replacement and bla bla, I understand that. But if things come to something you can get in 7-11, I believe crxr would have fixed it earlier. Who would want a person to insult him to this extent? But if things are rare (just like the 16GB board), yes, give him time. Noone wants to ruin his own reputation for nothing, and this especially goes to someone who used to trade a lot in this forum.

Now, we shall stop arguing and let them have some peace in mind to wait till 22nd June.
Till then, peace!  thumbup.gif
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wow...i dont like long post...
just a quick brief here...
TS earpiece damage and send for repair....
then y technician open the board etc...
did TS ask for that service??
RM150 just for repairing earpiece...
just want to make it clear cuz i dont read ppls long post...and i assume u bashing me... smile.gif
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post Jun 8 2009, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jun 8 2009, 06:48 PM)
wow...i dont like long post...
just a quick brief here...
TS earpiece damage and send for repair....
then y technician open the board etc...
did TS ask for that service??
RM150 just for repairing earpiece...
just want to make it clear cuz i dont read ppls long post...and i assume u bashing me... smile.gif
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I will make it short for you too.
Board was never open, try google and learn something.
Get your facts right before you comment.
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post Jun 8 2009, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(crxr @ Jun 8 2009, 10:18 PM)
I will make it short for you too.
Board was never open, try google and learn something.
Get your facts right before you comment.
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i will make it shorter for u...
ur responsibility u bear the cost...
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post Jun 8 2009, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(crxr @ Jun 8 2009, 10:18 PM)
I will make it short for you too.
Board was never open, try google and learn something.
Get your facts right before you comment.
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Wait, please explain in more details.
Initially it was the earpiece problem. How did you fix the earpiece issue?
You said the board was never opened? Please elaborate.
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post Jun 8 2009, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(meltC @ Jun 8 2009, 06:26 PM)
On behalf of the law grads... I think most of us don't behave like TS and most of us are proficient in English so next time TS try to reconfirm everything in a language understood by both and not just a single party (not to say I think you're wrong for asking him to give u back what was originally agreed upon). Anyways, crxr, next time try to be more subtle when you give a "predictive" date or time. Cause if you broke my 2nd hand or 3rd hand anything and keep ffk-ing me, I think I'll sue you.  tongue.gif    I mean this in the nicest way. Cause in trade a promise should be acted upon.
Crxr:
I'm tech-illiterate but I think if it were 2nd hand it could have latent problems but it is rather lame to blame it all on latent defects and deny all responsibilities. Just admit that there is a possibility of such action on your part that caused this damage but explain that there is also a possibility that there are latent defects from the phone AND ALSO that you ARE paying back for the damage in part (due to the endless possibilities of ifs and maybes) but it would be harsh to expect you to completely reimburse a 2nd hand iphone (of which condition is dubious in the first place).

Anyways, I supposed both of you have already reached an amicable solution. But TS please bear (and to all the thread readers it's not "bare" i mean it with the best intentions) with the possibility of a further delay due to the logistics of delivery (I really think crxr should plead tis before just conveniently profess to be able to deliver on time).

Cheers!
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Ok, I will keep in mind that not to repair your stuff cause you will sue me. Like I said, that is a water set and complication is beyond my control. But then again, I think you will sent to the dealer to fix anyway cause you can sue them for more money. I mean this in a nice way too.

If you are tech-illiterate, then don't comment cause I cannot comprehend what you try to say with all the lawyer's jargon( if... but ...also). There is NO possibility that I could damage the board cause it's a sandwich piece and all the importance IC is sandwich in between.


Added on June 8, 2009, 10:48 pm
QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 8 2009, 10:27 PM)
Wait, please explain in more details.
Initially it was the earpiece problem. How did you fix the earpiece issue?
You said the board was never opened? Please elaborate.
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the logic and comm board are on top of each other with a battery attach to the bottom end of the comm board. All the importance IC is sandwich in between. I have to remove this complete sandwich board with battery in order to replace the earpiece. I have done this on the spot for few bro in this forum before and all working without any complication.


Added on June 8, 2009, 11:06 pm
QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jun 8 2009, 10:22 PM)
i will make it shorter for u...
ur responsibility u bear the cost...
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U got me.. rclxms.gif
U are the shortest biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 8 2009, 11:06 PM
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post Jun 8 2009, 11:36 PM

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crxr, can i ask you a questions? did you tell TS that there WILL be a risk when repairing this iphone beforehand?
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post Jun 9 2009, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Jun 8 2009, 11:36 PM)
crxr, can i ask you a questions? did you tell TS that there WILL be a risk when repairing this iphone beforehand?
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No, I did not cause I am late. I need to be more professional like a surgeon, better bring a letter of indemnity with me the next time I repair iphone if not I will get sue. If they sign is rm150, if not rm600 or no deal to cover my ass. tongue.gif
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post Jun 9 2009, 12:35 AM

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What is all this tech talk? IC here there, sandwich board la, logic board and so on? Pleasse dont try to cloud the issue using all this tech talk, everyone knows what the motive is to do this.

crxr damaged it during the repair, so he gotta replaced it.
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post Jun 9 2009, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(crxr @ Jun 9 2009, 12:03 AM)
No, I did not cause I am late. I need to be more professional like a surgeon, better bring a letter of indemnity with me the next time I repair iphone if not I will get sue. If they sign is rm150, if not rm600 or no deal to cover my ass. tongue.gif
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well too bad. lady luck isnt by ur side now. even though you give all sort of explanation here but still the phone's touch screen is in working condition when it was in ur hand. and after you repair earpiece.. the touchscreen is malfunction. that is the fact. u know how "once broken consider sold" and "park at your own risk" works right?

"once broken consider sold" rule means no matter whether is it accidental or with intention, if you broke the stuff, you should pay for that broken stuff.

"park at your own risk" rule means the management will not responsible for any damage or incident happen to your car when you park at the parking lot.

since you didnt tell TS about the risk of repairing iphone, i think you are in "once broken consider sold" situation. you break, you pay. and i guess that is what most other people thinks too. just IF you told TS about the risk and if he agrees to it... well, he would have to bear the repair cost himself when this thing happens.
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post Jun 9 2009, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Jun 9 2009, 12:47 AM)
well too bad. lady luck isnt by ur side now. even though you give all sort of explanation here but still the phone's touch screen is in working condition when it was in ur hand. and after you repair earpiece.. the touchscreen is malfunction. that is the fact. u know how "once broken consider sold" and "park at your own risk" works right?

"once broken consider sold" rule means no matter whether is it accidental or with intention, if you broke the stuff, you should pay for that broken stuff.

"park at your own risk" rule means the management will not responsible for any damage or incident happen to your car when you park at the parking lot.

since you didnt tell TS about the risk of repairing iphone, i think you are in "once broken consider sold" situation. you break, you pay. and i guess that is what most other people thinks too. just IF you told TS about the risk and if he agrees to it... well, he would have to bear the repair cost himself when this thing happens.
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Make it short ... lesson learn
No explanation, will bring letter of indemnity the next time.
Sign rm155, else rm600 or no surgery will be perform.
Just remember need xtra rm5 to cover stationaries and filing..... lol.


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This post has been edited by crxr: Jun 9 2009, 01:22 AM
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post Jun 9 2009, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(SerioseCat @ Jun 9 2009, 12:35 AM)
What is all this tech talk?  IC here there, sandwich board la, logic board and so on?  Pleasse dont try to cloud the issue using all this tech talk, everyone knows what the motive is to do this.

crxr damaged it during the repair, so he gotta replaced it.
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of course la he is technician he expect us to pay money to learn how the internal of an iphone works. Its like people buy DELL PC and when it breaks down we need learn what is a motherboard, what is a ram, how to install windows. Ppl pay dell because of its warranty when the pc breaks down with 1 call they send a technician to fix it.

People pay for solution not pay to create problems.


p.s u cant resolve your dispute and u afraid ppl reading this thread. If you are legit and right we will remove it.


Its business nothing to do with laws term.

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post Jun 9 2009, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jun 9 2009, 01:42 AM)
of course la he is technician he expect us to pay money to learn how the internal of an iphone works. Its like people buy DELL PC and when it breaks down we need learn what is a motherboard, what is a ram, how to install windows. Ppl pay dell because of its warranty when the pc breaks down with 1 call they send a technician to fix it.

People pay for solution not pay to create problems.
p.s u cant resolve your dispute and u afraid ppl reading this thread. If you are legit and right we will remove it.
Its business nothing to do with laws term.
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I am only a dispute technician, please don't dirty my sales thread.

PS. Who gives you the right to dirty my sale thread?


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post Jun 9 2009, 07:06 AM

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QUOTE(crxr @ Jun 9 2009, 01:58 AM)
I am only a dispute technician, please don't dirty my sales thread.

PS. Who gives you the right to dirty my sale thread?
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its ur responsibility that will cloud ur sales thread... smile.gif
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QUOTE(crxr @ Jun 9 2009, 01:17 AM)
Make it short ... lesson learn
No explanation, will bring letter of indemnity the next time.
Sign rm155, else rm600 or no surgery will be perform.
Just remember need xtra rm5 to cover stationaries and filing..... lol.
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Yes, lesson learnt. This is the most important thing.
So, no hard feelings. Experience carries a pricetag on it. You know, we all pay to learn. laugh.gif
At least you learn to know the quality of a local law grad. wink.gif

Anyway, the use of LOI is a good idea, especially on expensive gadget like iphone.
I think most of the customers can understand the risk of repairing gadget like iphone.
This is especially the spare parts are rarely available.
With clear and careful explanation, I think most customers can accept the LOI. laugh.gif
Otherwise, just ask them to send it to Apple service center for the repair.

You have nothing to lose. You learn your lesson. It is just the luck is not on your side this time.
Just get this solved and walk on.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jun 9 2009, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE(crxr @ Jun 9 2009, 01:58 AM)
I am only a dispute technician, please don't dirty my sales thread.

PS. Who gives you the right to dirty my sale thread?
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Well I guess readers here will have very clear mind on which side to stand.
There isn't much use of explaining over and over again.

I always use this as my way of handling life;
"If you say I'm stupid, you are stupid as well"

So, live on. notworthy.gif

P.S. tech_frix, I'm not too free to bash you. I only quoted ONE little word of yours, Ferrari. May be you should start spending some time to read longer laugh.gif Peace!
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post Jun 22 2009, 01:39 PM

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Dispute/Conflict solved. crxr Smsed me yesterday to ask someone to pick up and inspect the machine. So I asked my fren to meet him today. Machine inspected and confirmed works fine. crxr also got his rm150 as promised.

Thanks to everyone.

Thanks to crxr n again, sorry.

what's done is done.

-closed-

This post has been edited by spacemanship: Jun 22 2009, 01:39 PM

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