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post Jun 2 2009, 06:06 PM, updated 16y ago

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Welcome to the Starcraft 2 thread.



Beta Player List:

1. fujkenasai megazero.axelay
2. Ash Andrik.duskbin
3. evofantasy aeco.aeco
4. C_Sagi konata.izumi
5. fall3n Akira.loonie
6. melvintcs MelT.empty
7. DeanKueh MeDiX.Deankueh
8. Deimos Tel`Arin DeimosTA.deimosta
9. gtboy2 loric.yau
10.SmileyJeff Smiley.jeff
11.Quazacolt Quazacolt.quazacolt
12.aftersteps aftersteps.john
13.XenoFr3ak Alucard.crazy

gl hf.

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post Jun 2 2009, 06:08 PM

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1. fujkenasai | megazero.axelay | Random
2. Ash | Ash.duskbin
3. evofantasy | aeco.evofantasy | user posted image
4. C_Sagi | konata.izumi
5. fall3n | Akira.loonie
6. melvintcs | MelT.empty
7. DeanKueh | MeDiX.Deankueh
8. Deimos Tel`Arin | DeimosTA.telarin
9. gtboy2 | loric.yau
10. SmileyJeff | Smiley.jeff
11. Quazacolt | Quazacolt.quazacolt
12. aftersteps | aftersteps.john
13. XenoFr3ak | Alucard.crazy
14. taeru | walrusMY.walrusMY
15. BlueBerry | Simplicity.gosu
16. DuskBin.Marksman | Marksman.kng
17. jdreamer | Dreamer.jdreamer
18. ProtossSC | Undisputed.scwire
19. Moonflown| BlueMoon.flow
20. NineCelsius | Arion.ngl
21. talexeh | talexeh.talexeh
22. kianweic | kianweic.kianweic
23. vis.vls | vis.vls
24. HaVoC | Cerebral.neo


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2nd

So confusing....just now had another SCs v2
Well...Cheese....put in the title no known release date....Some people don't even read the 1st post

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3rd...

And if we keep this up..someone else is gonna start SC 2 thread V 2.3 since we keep doing this lol
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post Jun 2 2009, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(radkliler @ Jun 2 2009, 06:09 PM)
3rd...

And if we keep this up..someone else is gonna start SC 2 thread V 2.3 since we keep doing this lol
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jun 2 2009, 06:11 PM)
LoL god moderator will choose the best one. laugh.gif  thumbup.gif
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Naah...silly mistake doh.gif Shouldn't have closed the first one before the V2 went up sweat.gif
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post Jun 2 2009, 06:14 PM

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Im getting more SC2 hands on impression now.

Copy and pasta from sclegacy.com ph34r.gif
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post Jun 2 2009, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(frags @ Jun 2 2009, 06:12 PM)
Naah...silly mistake doh.gif  Shouldn't have closed the first one before the V2 went up sweat.gif
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I see I thought it was on purpose cos I asked him to start.
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So...what would we spam in this thread?
The v1 was mostly filled with: OMG WHEN IS IT OUT??? SOON?
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post Jun 2 2009, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Crazegamer @ Jun 2 2009, 06:20 PM)
So...what would we spam in this thread?
The v1 was mostly filled with: OMG WHEN IS IT OUT??? SOON?
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Discuss about the latest updates?

If not,there is no point for a SC2 thread if everyone just keep asking for release date when no one actually knows.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 2 2009, 06:22 PM)
Discuss about the latest updates?

If not,there is no point for a SC2 thread if everyone just keep asking for release date when no one actually knows.
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Yea. But not much to discuss until beta rolls along.
Note: This must be one of the most active thread for a game with no confirmation date. Brillant rclxms.gif

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post Jun 2 2009, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(Crazegamer @ Jun 2 2009, 06:25 PM)
Yea. But not much to discuss until beta rolls along.
Note: This must be one of the most active thread for a game with no confirmation date. Brillant  rclxms.gif
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Maybe the new stuff that is in the game.New infestors or Brood Lord.

There must be something to discuss.

Yes,it's the only thread that we reach V2 when there is no confirmation of release date. doh.gif
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post Jun 2 2009, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 2 2009, 06:26 PM)
Maybe the new stuff that is in the game.New infestors or Brood Lord.

There must be something to discuss.

Yes,it's the only thread that we reach V2 when there is no confirmation of release date. doh.gif
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What to do there its the game by blizzard call starcraft 2.

Well how bout getting the beta keys by winning online competitions?

I found this site http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...?topic_id=94466

go have fun.
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post Jun 2 2009, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jun 2 2009, 06:30 PM)
What to do there its the game by blizzard call starcraft 2.

Well how bout getting the beta keys by winning online competitions?

I found this site http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...?topic_id=94466

go have fun.
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Good luck for those who are going for it.
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post Jun 2 2009, 06:59 PM

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Starcraft 2 demo already comeout????
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post Jun 2 2009, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(wch5274 @ Jun 2 2009, 06:59 PM)
hai

Starcraft 2 demo already comeout????
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doh.gif another 1 or just came here to spam. doh.gif

ya ya already out except Im the only exclusive one muahahaha.
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Yes yes. Demo out but only for some exclusive members of LYN
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Post #19 should come first. Some mistakes due to the limit on images caused the confusion. doh.gif

Protoss:
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A few fans speculated that these units render are just a placeholder while Blizzard sorts out the balancing issue. However, considering the fact that they have just released a video of death animations, in particular the one with the Carrier exploding, do you think that Blizzard will still have the time & resource to switch the models around?

Discuss.

P/S: Double post due to the limit on the number of images allowed per post. doh.gif

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To spice things up for this new thread, allow me to copy-pasta a topic that is currently being hotly debated in the SCII community: poor design on Protoss air units.

Die-hard fans are complaining that the number of polygons for Protoss air units are a far cry compared to those of Terran & Zerg. What do you guys think? Attached below are detailed pictures of the units & I must say, the comparison they made between the new Carrier & another object is a big shock.

Terran:
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Zerg:
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post Jun 2 2009, 08:28 PM

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I think,it's just the art isnt polished yet and constantly changing.

There are still changes to Zerg and Terran units,even till now.Like Thor just got back it's shoulder cannons.
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starcraft2 not release yet n thread v2 already created...lol..
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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jun 2 2009, 08:16 PM)
To spice things up for this new thread, allow me to copy-pasta a topic that is currently being hotly debated in the SCII community: poor design on Protoss air units.

Die-hard fans are complaining that the number of polygons for Protoss air units are a far cry compared to those of Terran & Protoss. What do you guys think? Attached below are detailed pictures of the units & I must say, the comparison they made between the new Carrier & another object is a big shock.

Terran:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Zerg:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Considering things that happen with blizzard nothing is too late as long as it has not gone gold. When its ready moto really makes things interesting. I think during war3 beta they still changed things 180 degrees around.
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jun 2 2009, 10:31 PM)
Considering things that happen with blizzard nothing is too late as long as it has not gone gold. When its ready moto really makes things interesting. I think during war3 beta they still changed things 180 degrees around.
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If im not wrong,back then,WC3 has like 8 races.In the end,it only become 3.


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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 2 2009, 10:33 PM)
If im not wrong,back then,WC3 has like 8 races.In the end,it only become 3.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 2 2009, 10:33 PM)
If im not wrong,back then,WC3 has like 8 races.In the end,it only become 3.
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8? Are you sure? I thought they initally wanted to include burning legion but later scrapped the idea.
War3 alpha was more of rpgish instead of base building. Later they decided to do 2 products instead. WC3 and WoW

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QUOTE(Crazegamer @ Jun 2 2009, 10:40 PM)
8? Are you sure? I thought they initally wanted to include burning legion but later scrapped the idea.
War3 alpha was more of rpgish instead of base building. Later they decided to do 2 products instead. WC3 and WoW
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Thats what i heard.

Why cant that happen to DoW2? cry.gif
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any new updated gameplay video???

the latest I watched was Terran vs Zerg where the Terran won..
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QUOTE(lilgun @ Jun 2 2009, 10:57 PM)
any new updated gameplay video???

the latest I watched was Terran vs Zerg where the Terran won..
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Those videos dont come very often,to be honest.
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8? Are you sure? I thought they initally wanted to include burning legion but later scrapped the idea.
War3 alpha was more of rpgish instead of base building. Later they decided to do 2 products instead. WC3 and WoW
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Yeah the alpha felt that it look better I wonder if we can still get back those graphics.
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the zergs look cute in SC2.. haha..
compared to the ori SC..

overlord bcame round like those baloon floating in the skies.
the drones look fatter and cute too.. laugh.gif
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Wow with this 2nd thread its moving rather fast.
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Activision Blizzard's E3 Conference:
http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6210427/starc...stories;story;1

For those with the tl;dr symptom, here's the important part:
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[6:53] And now a bit about Starcraft II...

[6:54] The new Battle.net service will launch alongside Starcraft II, which represents a return to the company's roots.

[6:54] Morhaime talks about the series' well documented popularity in South Korea, where he says it is akin to a national sport.

Blizzard is targetting an end-of-the-year release for Starcraft II.

[6:55] There will be a Starcraft II beta test later this summer, and Morhaime offers to get anyone in attendance into the program. Morhaime expects to launch Starcraft II by the end of the year, though he also notes that it will only ship once the game is done.

[6:56] Morhaime says that more about the games will be revealed at BlizzCon and encourages everyone to attend the August show, which sold out yesterday.

[6:56] Morhaime closes with a cinematic cutscene video from Starcraft II's single-player campaign.

[6:57] "The Zerg swarm came as was foretold, and the Protoss, first born of the gods, rose to fight them."

[6:58] Now comes a third group, "But do they come to save? Or destroy?"

[6:59] When the trailer ends, Activision Blizzard chief financial officer Thomas Tippl takes the stage.


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I already ordered mine and shipped here already
Apparently its already done they just delay the release date

Heres the link to purchase one online

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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Jun 3 2009, 03:47 AM)
I already ordered mine and shipped here already
Apparently its already done they just delay the release date

Heres the link to purchase one online

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This is like the 3rd or 4th time they say SC2 will be released this year.

Awesome.
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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Jun 3 2009, 03:47 AM)
I already ordered mine and shipped here already
Apparently its already done they just delay the release date

Heres the link to purchase one online

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starcraft2 not release yet n thread v2 already created...lol..
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should be released end of the year , blizzard activition said in E3
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QUOTE(lilgun @ Jun 2 2009, 11:25 PM)
the zergs look cute in SC2.. haha..
compared to the ori SC..

overlord bcame round like those baloon floating in the skies.
the drones look fatter and cute too..  laugh.gif
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of course ler zerg now look cute and fatter...
they won the first season...
so just happy laying at the edge of the world...

now second war begin... dunno who won?

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Guess what I found to those who asked about War3 Alpha

Lol'ed RPS
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Ohh yeah that was their concept and the used that into wow hmm 4 other races ehh so it was supposed to be dwafts, humans, elves, and burning legion and undead too?

They completely changed the story since then too.

I wonder if it will be the same for SC2, kinda made me think of WiC for what they are proposing RPS lol.
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I think SC2 is a proper RTS since Day 1.

Dont think they want to piss off their "valued" customers.
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WCIII alpha is so different compared to the retail version.

Well...lets hope SC2 will rock the gaming world. And knowing Blizzard....they will most likely release another hit for years to come
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LoL yeah I still remembered it when they posted it on their blizzard website then then when the cyber cafe leaked beta came out I was like hey this is different from what I saw online.
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Hey, I just get an update and being told that the Starcraft II release date will be end of year 2009 if there's no problem comes in way during this period.

You can see the release date at StarCraft II - Wikipedia.

And that information is taken from these 2 sites.
"StarCraft 2 Planned for Release This Year". Shacknews.
"Starcraft II by end of 2009, Call of Duty expanding to new genres". Gamespot.

However, this is the expectation and there's no guarantee if it will be earlier or later.
Please take this information at your own risk. laugh.gif
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well it was mentioned a few post b4.
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Lolz THEY HOPE to release it by end of this year. In other words .. its prolly next year.
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not assumption.
i'm putting my bet on Christmas xD
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not assumption.
i'm putting my bet on Christmas xD
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I'll wait for beta first.Then,only estimate release date.

Probably end of the year or early 2010,though.
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Battlenet 2.0 will be free. rclxm9.gif

QUOTE("Karune @ 06/04/2009 03:08:16 PM PDT")
When a player buys the StarCraft II box at retail, they will have the ability to play on the new Battle.net for free.

For those listening to the latest Activision Blizzard conference call, Mike Morhaime also mentions it there as well. 


Source


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ermm...if not free, meaning ppl have to pay to get into official servers?
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ermm...if not free, meaning ppl have to pay to get into official servers?
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There were rumors saying that you need to pay a monthly fee to play on Battlenet.Like WoW.
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There were rumors saying that you need to pay a monthly fee to play on Battlenet.Like WoW.
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Is Dow2 and SC2 like orange and apple?
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QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Jun 5 2009, 07:36 PM)
Is Dow2 and SC2 like orange and apple?
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Yeah like father and mother XD

QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jun 5 2009, 06:43 PM)
ermm...if not free, meaning ppl have to pay to get into official servers?
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That was the speculation of people when Blizzard spoke about Battle.net 2.0 and about monetising certain things. Blizzard has explained that they will never make the core service a subscription. No need to worry. This is old news btw.
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The monthly payment for SC2 is no longer true.
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Lets hope this will be a good game and will please the masses.
Then we can have our very own LYN SC2 nite or sumthing....juz like DoW 2 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Crazegamer @ Jun 5 2009, 11:06 PM)
Lets hope this will be a good game and will please the masses.
Then we can have our very own LYN SC2 nite or sumthing....juz like DoW 2 tongue.gif
Cheese, you with me?
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Lets hope this will be a good game and will please the masses.
Then we can have our very own LYN SC2 nite or sumthing....juz like DoW 2 tongue.gif
Cheese, you with me?
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Ohh Im sure lots of old men will start to play games again because of this game's release.

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going to buy the original and join wcg..but i am 24 this year, unlike old times, can play nonstop.hahaha
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Lets hope this will be a good game and will please the masses.
Then we can have our very own LYN SC2 nite or sumthing....juz like DoW 2 tongue.gif
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...?topic_id=95098

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Colossi could be locked down though, making them an ineffective counter to the Ghost... or do Ghosts not have lockdown? I haven't played since Blizzcon 2008, so you'll need to help me out here.

No lockdown in multiplayer.
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starcraft2 not release yet n thread v2 already created...lol..
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THE HORROR OF WAITTING........THE HORROR!!!  Trilogy sumore...haiyooo
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Complain so much for what?
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In case some people interested in this:

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StarCraft II Q&A Batch 52 : Map Maker Series

1. Does it still use the JASS language, or perhaps an upgraded version of JASS?
StarCraft II uses an entirely new scripting language, which we’ve called Galaxy. This language is very similar to C, and anyone familiar with programming in C will have no trouble picking it up.

2. Is the language event-driven or object-oriented?
The language itself is not object-oriented, although most of the native functionality is based around operating on game objects.

3. In comparison to the Warcraft III Editor, how much more, if any, can the GUI of the game be edited (it was extremely limited in Warcraft III)?
The in-game UI layout is externalized in data files to a large extent, however there is no editor support for working with these files. So it will be possible to customize the game UI, it just won't be a user-friendly process.

4. Are there new noteworthy functionalities in the Starcraft II Editor, or will the new editor just have general improvements?
I can’t think of a single editor feature from WarCraft III, large or small, which has not been improved in at least some way for StarCraft II.

5. Will the ability to communicate among triggers, for instance via actions or conditions, be improved in the new language?
One significant new feature of the Trigger Editor is support for custom function definitions, including actions and conditions. This means you can create your own actions that are built up from other actions (or custom script code), then use those in triggers just as you would any other action.

6. How does "Hero" support differ from the Warcraft III Editor? Or is it practically identical?
We’ve been working hard to create a hero system that is even more flexible than WarCraft III’s. For example, map makers will have the ability to define any number of custom attributes that modify a hero based on its level.

7. Will there be a public API for the programming language?
As with WarCraft III, there is a large set of “native” functions representing game functionality that can be accessed through scripts. If this is what you mean by “public API”, then yes.

8. Will there be improvements on the "Garbage Collector" for the new language? For example, in JASS all local variables need to be set to null at the end of their use, and certain data-types need to be removed from the game (such as Locations) at the end of their use to avoid memory leaks.
Galaxy features a robust garbage collection system for all native types, which is a huge improvement over WarCraft III (which technically did not have a garbage collection system at all). The script memory leak issues from WarCraft III will be a thing of the past.

---End of Transmission---


Source : http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topic...588788&sid=3000
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frags,I didnt want to post that as it will attract unwanted flames here.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 14 2009, 02:04 PM)
frags,I didnt want to post that as it will attract unwanted flames here.
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I don't think they will understand what is written there.
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Definitely can be made in SC2.I have no doubts since day 1.
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Something similar to C?!

Oh My, Blizz is so 80-90's tongue.gif

Now that remind me too much of work to be good but it sounds like they really created something solid, it's the first time ever I read anything about a game script engine with its very own Garbage Collector (which, funnily enough, does not exist in the C language as far as I remember tongue.gif )

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What does a Garbage Collector do?
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What does a Garbage Collector do?
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Garbage collection is a term used in programming of cleaning up your variables when it is unused. Basically poor garbage collection can lead to memory leaks and in some cases crashes.

A garbage collector is a function that automatically kills variables when it is unused(i know technically its not exactly like that...but that's the easiest way to explain it). Users wont have to worry much about cleaning up their variables.

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Garbage collection is a term used in programming of cleaning up your variables when it is unused. Basically poor garbage collection can lead to memory leaks and in some cases crashes.

A garbage collector is a function that automatically kills variables when it is unused(i know technically its not exactly like that...but that's the easiest way to explain it). Users wont have to worry much about cleaning up their variables.
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I see.Or it just clear off a variable from the memory when it's no longer being used?

This is interesting.

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Basically yar, as frags explained it "just" clear up memory that is not used anymore without you (you = the programmer here) having to manually free it, which was a big pain in older languages like C.

It seems pretty "basic" like this but it's actually quite complex and absolutely vital for big programs as unused but not freed memory (ie: without a garbage collector) will lead to your game taking way more memory than it is really using and it will keep growing and growing (as non freed variables keeps piling up). That's one of the common cause of memory leak or "Out of memory" kind of error.


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looks very impressive but what the heck.. it's 10+ years already since Starcraft 1!!
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and few months time after the release of SC2, we might see another kind of fans chasing over custom-made map called 'Defense of the A________' tongue.gif
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This time it maybe "Defence Of The Galaxy"

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QUOTE(Soul-X @ Jun 15 2009, 07:08 PM)
This time it maybe "Defence Of The Galaxy"

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You'll find this hilarious if you've watched the Battle Report 2 & make sure you catch all the commentaries.
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..and look for starcraft 2 in stores in 2011

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Starcraft 2 Beta Draws Closer

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Greetings from Blizzard Entertainment!



We are starting to gear up for the StarCraft II Beta. If you are interested in participating, you need to have a Battle.net account, which you can create here: http://us.battle.net/?rhtml=y.



Send us your Battle.net account login name and we will flag you for access to the SC2 beta when we begin admitting press. You do not need to go through the opt-in process.



We do not currently have a date to announce for the start of the beta test. There will be no NDA associated with the beta so you�re free to write and take screens or video as you please.



We need to have your Battle.net account login name by Friday, June 19th. Thanks much!





See you on Battle.net!

Blizzard Entertainment PR Team


A few sites have been getting emails like this.Those sites are reluctant to reveal whether they got it or not.Hope it's true this time.

SC2 Armoury Link

Still,it's still a rumor.

We'll see what happen on this saturday.

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..and look for starcraft 2 in stores in 2011

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lol....waiting for host -.-"..DCED....
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Frankly speaking, I'm amazed that the person / team who edited the video is able to replicate the fonts & made the chat lines looked so genuine.

The DC window is pretty realistic as well. shocking.gif
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Among the posters here who have registered for Bnet 2.0? with their game specs sent?
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jun 17 2009, 01:36 PM)
Among the posters here who have registered for Bnet 2.0? with their game specs sent?
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I registered to BN2 to try to get into the beta.

But you need to link your account to an existing Blizzard game before you can apply.

And it seems that my 3 years of WoW (and all the money that represents!) are not enough. Wow does NOT count as a Blizzard game....

That kinda pissed me off to be honest....

I do own original Diablo2 + LoD as well as Starcraft but they are back to hometown so I have no idea about the cd-key (and trying to explain to my mum where and what to look for is just impossible tongue.gif )
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I did opt in for the beta about a month ago.With a Starcraft Battlechest.
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 17 2009, 03:30 PM)
I registered to BN2 to try to get into the beta.

But you need to link your account to an existing Blizzard game before you can apply.

And it seems that my 3 years of WoW (and all the money that represents!) are not enough. Wow does NOT count as a Blizzard game....

That kinda pissed me off to be honest....

I do own original Diablo2 + LoD as well as Starcraft but they are back to hometown so I have no idea about the cd-key (and trying to explain to my mum where and what to look for is just impossible  tongue.gif )
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hahaha

Awww I guess its time for you to go home then. Just take a holiday and go home once a year atleast. Or you can buy a copy of starcarft in China last time I remember it was quite affordable.
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Yar, but it kinda pissed me off that WoW was not considered enough... seriously... I put hundreds of USD in it, more than any normal Blizzard game... it's really weird.

Guess I will just wait for the full SC2, not too fussed about the beta, it's very unlikely you get choosen anyway, every gamer and their mothers around the world will register tongue.gif
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To be honest,every account have an equal chance,unless you are a progamer.
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jun 17 2009, 01:36 PM)
Among the posters here who have registered for Bnet 2.0? with their game specs sent?
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I did send in my application with the system specification of a Dell Latitude D620 laptop. Instead of competing againt those high-spec system candidates, I figured my chance should be either greater or nil if I opted for an office laptop. tongue.gif
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LoL mine is just medium specs I think, I sent in my C2D E6300 with a 8800GT. 2 GB ram.
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http://kotaku.com/5295165/yes-blizzard-is-...ft-ii-this-year
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Since we have been waiting for so long I just wish that they give us a completed game.
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Eh battle report 3 is out at eurogamer.net


Added on June 19, 2009, 3:05 pmhttp://www.eurogamer.net/videos/starcraft-ii-battle-report-3

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Oh yea.

The graphics is a HUGE improvement from the previous Battle Reports.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 19 2009, 03:18 PM)
Oh yea.

The graphics is a HUGE improvement from the previous Battle Reports.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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I doubt the game is of any later beta version compared to the previous Battle Reports as I noticed that the Spawning Pool & Infestor are still of old models. sad.gif
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I doubt the game is of any later beta version compared to the previous Battle Reports as I noticed that the Spawning Pool & Infestor are still of old models. sad.gif
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Probably they havent put the new Infestor in yet.

The new Infestor is awesome.So Zerg-like.
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Yo guys,

Any updates on Starcraft II recently other than the beta?
I keep refreshing Blizzard's website & all I see are updated Fanarts.

Any idea how much it will cost?
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Yo guys,

Any updates on Starcraft II recently other than the beta?
I keep refreshing Blizzard's website & all I see are updated Fanarts.

Any idea how much it will cost?
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Nothing so far,so just wait.

It probably come out at the end of this year.
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QUOTE(PCHo @ Jun 19 2009, 05:14 PM)
Yo guys,

Any updates on Starcraft II recently other than the beta?
I keep refreshing Blizzard's website & all I see are updated Fanarts.

Any idea how much it will cost?
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Here


http://www.tsb.com.my/product.cfm?id=167&cid=0
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BR3 Out biggrin.gif

BR3
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I really wish that I don't have to buy any of blizzard products to play SC2 beta but....

Unless I can preorder it then to beta I go
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Why the players are Korean?


Added on June 19, 2009, 9:35 pm17mins to pwn a player...

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Why the players are Korean?


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Cause the koreans are the best.
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so the release date for starcraft 2 is end of the year??
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so the release date for starcraft 2 is end of the year??
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No one knows and it's not certain yet.

I dont see them releasing the game in Q4 now.So incomplete.


Added on June 20, 2009, 9:20 am
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BR3 Out biggrin.gif

BR3
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Fixed.

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 20 2009, 09:18 AM)
No one knows and it's not certain yet.

I dont see them releasing the game in Q4 now.So incomplete.


Added on June 20, 2009, 9:20 am



Fixed.
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wah both pro! love those colossus ! too bad zerg's armor are no match agaisnt protoss ..
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Thanks again, cheese  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Hou_JaI @ Jun 20 2009, 03:24 PM)
wah both pro! love those colossus ! too bad zerg's armor are no match agaisnt protoss ..
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Feels more like Protoss is imba,or the Zerg player isnt good.
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Feels more like Protoss is imba,or the Zerg player isnt good.

The zerg did not reinforce his army and macro enough while protoss warp and barrier is pretty imba sad.gif
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QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Jun 20 2009, 06:47 PM)
The zerg did not reinforce his army and macro enough while protoss warp and barrier is pretty imba  sad.gif
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Not only that,he lost all his Queens. doh.gif

The barrier(called Force Field) is imba.It's too good,IMO.Warp in is also another problem.
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so i guess we got mass protoss users when the game release
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QUOTE(windboy @ Jun 20 2009, 08:48 PM)
so i guess we got mass protoss users when the game release
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say hi to my hunter seeker for me when you see it
I seem to lost mine
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lulz.Thats if they didnt trap you in your own base.
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sc2 : the battle of imbaness
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user posted image

Im so jealous ):

Sauce : Someone from /v/
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Nuuuuu....

Mine still have nothing.
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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Jun 21 2009, 02:53 AM)
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Im so jealous ):

Sauce : Someone from /v/
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Some image editing again. doh.gif

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i given up all hope on this game.

when i heard of this game i was still in collage as a fresh man.

now i already working and my cousin who just only got married. his son already 3 yrs old.

if blizzard dont release this game. everyone gonna just forget about it.
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i given up all hope on this game.

when i heard of this game i was still in collage as a fresh man.

now i already working and my cousin who just only got married. his son already 3 yrs old.

if blizzard dont release this game. everyone gonna just forget about it.
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our children will be playing SC3 Sc5 will be with our grand children.
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11 years and i'm still getting my daily dose of starcraft

isn't it just awesome
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I think SC2 is going to be a failboat :-( The graphic currently looks dated, very minimal physics.

Situation very much like Kurono Torigā. Legendary classic game on a newer platform :-(
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QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Jun 22 2009, 10:35 PM)
I think SC2 is going to be a failboat :-( The graphic currently looks dated, very minimal physics.

Situation very much like Kurono Torigā. Legendary classic game on a newer platform :-(
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QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Jun 22 2009, 10:35 PM)
I think SC2 is going to be a failboat :-( The graphic currently looks dated, very minimal physics.

Situation very much like Kurono Torigā. Legendary classic game on a newer platform :-(
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QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Jun 22 2009, 10:35 PM)
I think SC2 is going to be a failboat :-( The graphic currently looks dated, very minimal physics.

Situation very much like Kurono Torigā. Legendary classic game on a newer platform :-(
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The graphics isnt even done yet.

Even each Battle Report have different animations,portraits,textures or models.The game is still on alpha.
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Yeah I hope SC2 isn't a re-baked bread.

It's just my expectation. Certain current games really set the bar high for the genre. Thus on personal level I'm very critical to any current RTS.
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Yeah I hope SC2 isn't a re-baked bread.

It's just my expectation. Certain current games really set the bar high for the genre. Thus on personal level I'm very critical to any current RTS.
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but graphics cant be too crappy too.
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Every battle report i see is an improvement in graphics and animation term so I am satisfied with their progress

Especially with the Unit upgrades have an addon to units visual

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but graphics cant be too crappy too.
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From what you see on the battle reports and screen shots do you think its crappy?

QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Jun 23 2009, 09:43 AM)
Every battle report i see is an improvement in graphics and animation term so I am satisfied with their progress

Especially with the Unit upgrades have an addon to units visual
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Yeah I hope SC2 isn't a re-baked bread.

It's just my expectation. Certain current games really set the bar high for the genre. Thus on personal level I'm very critical to any current RTS.
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If you are used to Relic games,i think you should avoid SC2 as SC2 isnt gonna reinvent the wheel.SC2 is just gonna refine what is already good in SC1.

It's gonna be more or less the same,IMO.
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i am refering to your post. you said gameplay is superior. but i think what makes a good game is having both together. sc2 wasnt bad, but i believe they could do better. blizzards' super artists. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jun 23 2009, 12:50 PM)
i am refering to your post. you said gameplay is superior. but i think what makes a good game is having both together. sc2 wasnt bad, but i believe they could do better. blizzards' super artists. laugh.gif
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Cos SC2 isnt out yet.
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SC2 wasnt out you mean that the videos shown by SC2 wasnt bad rite?

Cos SC2 isnt out yet.
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i heard the tower defence version is out? Is it true???
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got defense of the galaxy this tiem?
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Well actually they graphics looked very good to me. I'm not much of a SC fan though.

Maybe you were viewing through youtube or still screenshots? blink.gif


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got defense of the galaxy this tiem?
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Some image editing again. doh.gif
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It's not Photochop. Refer to the attached image below.


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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 20 2009, 09:18 AM)

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How dare you guys question Blizzard decisions and ideas. It's god damn Blizzard!

They know their shit and we should be humbled to be able to play their masterpieces!

Okay, seriously though...lets save our judgments on the game till the game is out. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Burn-X @ Jun 24 2009, 10:41 AM)
How dare you guys question Blizzard decisions and ideas.  It's god damn Blizzard!

They know their shit and we should be humbled to be able to play their masterpieces!

Okay, seriously though...lets save our judgments on the game till the game is out. smile.gif
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People want blizzard to make a game to test their SLI and see how many fps they can churn out....
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QUOTE(Burn-X @ Jun 24 2009, 10:41 AM)
How dare you guys question Blizzard decisions and ideas.  It's god damn Blizzard!

They know their shit and we should be humbled to be able to play their masterpieces!

Okay, seriously though...lets save our judgments on the game till the game is out. smile.gif
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Based on ppl's reaction to Diablo 3 (Clue: Rainbows!), I'd say a lot of ppl have dared to do so.
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Based on ppl's stupid opinion to Diablo 3 (Clue: Rainbows AND TOO COLOURFUL!), I'd say a lot of ppl have dared to do so.
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It's not Photochop. Refer to the attached image below.

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jun 24 2009, 10:13 AM)
It's not Photochop. Refer to the attached image below.


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Pull to 14:15 & you'll see an Immortal with his pet fish in the avatar window. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Jun 24 2009, 12:10 PM)
You lucky son of a b-
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jun 24 2009, 12:34 PM)
Damn you all with your photochopping.
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 24 2009, 12:38 PM)
I will take a PhotoPorkChop with curry, kkthxbye  tongue.gif
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Log into your new Battle.Net account using the Korea portal & you'll have the same icon. biggrin.gif

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Hmmm, i log into my account and got the SC2 beta icon too, but I don't have any Blizzard games entered yet, i guess all accounts got the icon too?, just that you need a legit Blizzard game to enter?


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Hmmm, i log into my account and got the SC2 beta icon too, but I don't have any Blizzard games entered yet, i guess all accounts got the icon too?, just that you need a legit Blizzard game to enter?
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I also have the same thing,but only on the Korean site,though.

I have one game,though.

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heh I also got that but does not seem to do anything.
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i got an email saying the beta sc2 is coming out this summer. is it real?
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I also have the same thing,but only on the Korean site,though.

I have one game,though.
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It's now on the US portal as well. Sweet. smile.gif
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It's now on the US portal as well. Sweet. smile.gif
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Okay....

What does this mean? I GOT TEH BETA????

*looks around excitedly.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 25 2009, 09:10 AM)
Okay....

What does this mean? I GOT TEH BETA????

*looks around excitedly.
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Blizzard is keeping mum on the purpose of that small lil' icon. sad.gif Some guys claimed that they did not have that icon but once refreshed a few times, it will appear. Either it's nothing special or we're going to have Blizzard going Neo style: Beta testers. Lots of beta testers.
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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jun 25 2009, 09:40 AM)
Blizzard is keeping mum on the purpose of that small lil' icon. sad.gif Some guys claimed that they did not have that icon but once refreshed a few times, it will appear. Either it's nothing special or we're going to have Blizzard going Neo style: Beta testers. Lots of beta testers.
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Wow thats great Im really excited if they are goin to have lots of beta testers.
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Hello there. I'm a time traveler from the Year 2099. We have flying cars, developed cold fushion, discovered faster-than-light travel, and built a colony on mars.

By the way, does anybody know when Starcraft 2 will be out?
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We met a Korean developer of Blizzard Entertainment’s (Shortened as Blizzard) anticipated RTS game Starcraft 2 (Shortened as Star 2).

David Kim (Korean name Kim Tae Hyun) appeared in the 3rd battle report and showcased talent of a pro gamer to become a topic among the gaming community. He is one of the 50 core developers of ‘Star 2’.

Although he won’t reveal details about ‘Star 2’, he had a light conversation with the reporter about his pride being a developer for Blizzard.

Q: How did you become to work in a foreign country?

A: I was born in Korea and went to college in Vancouver, Canada, majoring in computer science. I was going to work for programming for the “Company of Heroes” and “Warhammer 4000” series but then became a balance designer for Relic.

What is the difference between Blizzard and Relic?

For both companies excelling in making RTS games, it seems like Blizzard concerns more for the eSports side while Relic concerns more about diverse methods of play. The companies individually, make their games fun and they are both great companies.

Q: What job do you hold in Blizzard?

A: I am a balance designer for ‘Star 2’. In other words, I make it so that units are needed in certain situations and also make it so that the units are used well in all games. The main goal right now is to match the unit’s characteristics to its race characteristics.

Q: What do you think is Blizzard’s strengths?

A: It is that anybody can express their opinion equally. Any concern, regardless of job, is discussed freely. Also, in each division there are extremely skilled people that are chosen as the leader so as the work progresses, it is arranged that there is a lot of agreement. (This was quite hard to translate, so many words I didn’t know, sorry if it’s wrong haha)

Q: What game do you enjoy usually?

A: My first online game is ‘World of Warcraft’. I am raising an undead mage. I am looking forward to the game ‘AION’.

Q: Your ‘Star 2’ skill level?

A: I am ranked 1st in the current ladder. However, when the game comes out, I will probably get owned by the gamers in Korea (laugh).
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Now you know why David Kim always pwn others in all 3 Battle Reports. biggrin.gif

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Blizzard is keeping mum on the purpose of that small lil' icon. sad.gif Some guys claimed that they did not have that icon but once refreshed a few times, it will appear. Either it's nothing special or we're going to have Blizzard going Neo style: Beta testers. Lots of beta testers.
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Strange,i hope they need lots of beta tester then.

Hope that i dont have to use their horrible Blizzard torrent.

QUOTE(talexeh @ Jun 25 2009, 09:53 AM)
Now you know why David Kim always pwn others in all 3 Battle Reports. biggrin.gif
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He pawns.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 25 2009, 09:57 AM)
Strange,i hope they need lots of beta tester then.

Hope that i dont have to use their horrible Blizzard torrent.
laugh.gif

He pawns.
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that blizzard torrent. doh.gif sweat.gif

It never works with my connection too. I think if they use that to launch SC2 beta lots of countries around the world wont be able to play it.
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that blizzard torrent. doh.gif  sweat.gif

It never works with my connection too. I think if they use that to launch SC2 beta lots of countries around the world wont be able to play it.
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It cant even start even for me. doh.gif
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It cant even start even for me. doh.gif
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Funny that mine works, though very much slower compared to normal torrents. sweat.gif
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Funny that mine works, though very much slower compared to normal torrents. sweat.gif
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It just shows,Blizzard downloader suxs.
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Have you guys tried using this Bilzzard downloader from on a Linux platform?

If its like BT, it won't be capped.
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If it's the same as the WoW patcher (and I think it is)... prepare to suffer in Malaysia, for some reason I never managed to make it work properly either and ended up using the HTTP download part of it most of the times
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It doesnt even work in Aus.

I doubt it works in Malaysia.
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Funny that mine works, though very much slower compared to normal torrents. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Burn-X @ Jun 25 2009, 11:46 AM)
Have you guys tried using this Bilzzard downloader from on a Linux platform?

If its like BT, it won't be capped.
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No I have not I think its the same on linux and windows. Cos Shitmyx throttles it not sure bout other isp.

QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 25 2009, 11:57 AM)
If it's the same as the WoW patcher (and I think it is)... prepare to suffer in Malaysia, for some reason I never managed to make it work properly either and ended up using the HTTP download part of it most of the times
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I hope there are http downloads for SC2 beta for the beta testers.

I wonder why blizzard distribute their files using that method cant they do it like steam.
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Hmmm, the Blizzard downloader works for me, if not mistaken where i read somewhere it purposely download slowly so that it forces everyone to contribute, rather than those with high speed connection gets it fast then close the DLer for good.
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QUOTE(heaven @ Jun 25 2009, 12:47 PM)
Hmmm, the Blizzard downloader works for me, if not mistaken where i read somewhere it purposely download slowly so that it forces everyone to contribute, rather than those with high speed connection gets it fast then close the DLer for good.
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So whats your download speed?
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So whats your download speed?
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I can't find any indicator except the rough figure jumping between "About 3 hours" and "About 2 hours".
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I can't find any indicator except the rough figure jumping between "About 3 hours" and "About 2 hours".
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But how large is the file that you downloaded?
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Inside the Wow downloading if you go to the detailed view you will see which peers you connect with and all.

By looking at that I noticed that all my torrent connection lasted only few seconds before ending. Inside the list of the peers I was seeing one "Http download" special source.

Blizz usually provide some HTTP sources that are embedded inside the torrent (like directly downloading the file from a server). I ended up downloading all my wow patches through that, which is stable but way slower than what the torrent could give me.

I know for sure it's something wrong with Malaysia since I was getting pimp speed when I was still in France.

I am not sure how it is with the "Blizzard Downloader" tool you guys have to use now, but I greatly doubt Blizzard created a brand new tool when they already have an existing one...

I do wish good luck to people downloading something bigger than a couple of Gb with that from Malaysia...



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I do wish good luck to people downloading something bigger than a couple of Gb with that from Malaysia...
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 25 2009, 01:38 PM)
Inside the Wow downloading if you go to the detailed view you will see which peers you connect with and all.

By looking at that I noticed that all my torrent connection lasted only few seconds before ending. Inside the list of the peers I was seeing one "Http download" special source.

Blizz usually provide some HTTP sources that are embedded inside the torrent (like directly downloading the file from a server). I ended up downloading all my wow patches through that, which is stable but way slower than what the torrent could give me.

I know for sure it's something wrong with Malaysia since I was getting pimp speed when I was still in France.

I am not sure how it is with the "Blizzard Downloader" tool you guys have to use now, but I greatly doubt Blizzard created a brand new tool when they already have an existing one...

I do wish good luck to people downloading something bigger than a couple of Gb with that from Malaysia...
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Added on June 25, 2009, 2:36 pmI just hope people uploads it on torrent sites so that I can download it fast with xunlei or rapidshare.

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But how large is the file that you downloaded?
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BR3 is huge.Im getting from bigdownload.com

Gonna go uni and get the whole lot tomorrow,along with ARMA 2 Demo.
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BR3 is huge.Im getting from bigdownload.com

Gonna go uni and get the whole lot tomorrow,along with ARMA 2 Demo.
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Am I missing something? Where are you going to get ARMA 2 demo from?


Added on June 25, 2009, 2:55 pmNvm found it...It hasn't gone live yet and only got a small forum announcement.

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jun 25 2009, 02:33 PM)
I hope they do something about this if not people from countries like ours will suffer. sad.gif


Added on June 25, 2009, 2:36 pmI just hope people uploads it on torrent sites so that I can download it fast with xunlei or rapidshare.
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Not like Wow is new and they have not done anything about it........ tongue.gif

I don't think they are gonna bother with it, it's not an issue with Blizzard, it's an issue with Shitmyx, they throttle torrents and co. Malaysia is less than a peanut for Blizzard's market for them to bother doing any agreement with local ISPs

For Cheese, I believe it could be because the torrent is just getting hammered at the moment with so many people connecting to it but not enough seeds. It might get better after a while
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 25 2009, 03:07 PM)
Not like Wow is new and they have not done anything about it........  tongue.gif

I don't think they are gonna bother with it, it's not an issue with Blizzard, it's an issue with Shitmyx, they throttle torrents and co. Malaysia is less than a peanut for Blizzard's market for them to bother doing any agreement with local ISPs

For Cheese, I believe it could be because the torrent is just getting hammered at the moment with so many people connecting to it but not enough seeds. It might get better after a while
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It always give me an error that it couldnt connect to the seeds,while my other torrents work flawlessly.

Not sure whats wrong with it but i dont really bother as i go somewhere else to get the same file.
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hope this game looks better than C&C3.
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QUOTE(REDFlELD @ Jun 25 2009, 04:20 PM)
hope this game looks better than C&C3.
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Whats SC2 gonna do with C&C3?

C&C3 isnt a terrible game.
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is it released already?
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Jun 25 2009, 04:30 PM)
is it released already?
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Yes, go get it NAO!

Here for more info on where to get it: Starcraft released zomg!

On a more serious note, I personally dun really care how a strategy game looks, I would enjoy good graphics but I won't get too fussed over if the graphics are bad if the gameplay is great.

I am personally tired of "strategy" games that are nothing but empty shelf with shiny graphic effects on them


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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Jun 25 2009, 04:30 PM)
is it released already?
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Did anyone said SC2 is released?

Seriously,stop asking the same question again and again.

QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 25 2009, 04:52 PM)
Yes, go get it NAO!

On a more serious note, I personally dun really care how a strategy game looks, I would enjoy good graphics but I won't get too fussed over if the graphics are bad if the gameplay is great.

I am personally tired of "strategy" games that are nothing but empty shelf with shiny graphic effects on them
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I dont really care how it looks,as long as it looks decent and the core art style is good.Im fine with SC2's graphics now.

Darwinia is a game with simple graphics,but it still looks great,IMO.

Still,do note that the current SC2 graphics is not final yet.Even the latest Battle Report is pretty old,as there are some changes to the game after that,like Nullifiers got renamed as Disrupter,Infestor and Spawning Pool gets a new model.
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hey guys is starcraft 2 released yet? lol
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like waiting for diablo 3...dem..
another one when someone waiting for new warcraft 4...must be a long long time from now on..
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like waiting for diablo 3...dem..
another one when someone waiting for new warcraft 4...must be a long long time from now on..
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like waiting for diablo 3...dem..
another one when someone waiting for new warcraft 4...must be a long long time from now on..
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SC2 havent even come out and you want to talk about WC4?

Blizzard never rush games.They want quality than quantity.

The team who made WC3 is working on SC2.
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my friend said that SC2 haven't been released yet
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Guys,please stay on topic.

This is a topic about SC2,not WC4,rabbits,Orks,Nissan GTR or whatever shit on your mind.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 27 2009, 03:15 PM)
Guys,please stay on topic.

This is a topic about SC2,not WC4,rabbits,Orks,Nissan GTR or whatever shit on your mind.
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Your sig just broke this thread for me. Please resize the length of your sig.
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Okay.
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Fixed it already.

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i think starcraft 2 will not be released yet even after v3 thread is created...lol..
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not even sure it will get released this year.
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June 22 NDA has finally come to an end. Influx of multiple videos & screenshots is imminent.

Tech tree for all 3 races:
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Added on June 29, 2009, 3:38 pmA review from playing SC2 on 22 of June.

Link: http://sclegacy.com/feature/3-events/425-j...craft-ii-review

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I'm lazy to re-upload these images on another host. Many images ahead so be prepared for long loading time.

Note the number of Broodlings swarming to Terran forces. I wonder if these Broodlings deal any damage on impact? Also present is the new Infestor model, though it looks pretty similar to Protoss's old Reaver & weird enough, on the ground instead of under.
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Note the different type of Battlecruisers.
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Good ol' Psi-storm remodeled.
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Phoenixes anti-grav-ing Siege Tanks.
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Spine Crawlers sodomising Protoss land units. I wonder what makes these Spine Crawlers from hitting air units since they can protrude their tentacles so long away.
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Discuss.

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You're missing one more type of battlecruiser
The shielded one
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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Jun 29 2009, 03:46 PM)
You're missing one more type of battlecruiser
The shielded one
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Right, here you go. Battlecruiser with Defensive Matrix on:
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Defensive Matrix Battlecruiser:
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Missile Pods Battlecruiser:
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Yamato Cannon Battlecruiser:
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Wow,the graphics is just freaking awesome.

It still lack of the gritty look,IMO,but im fine with it.


Added on June 29, 2009, 3:54 pmPosting the SC2 player's impression here.

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Added on June 29, 2009, 4:12 pmShacksnews Interview with Dustin Browder

Comes with more screenshots.

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A few issues that left me either amazed or scratching my head.

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 29 2009, 03:50 PM)
... In the early game Roaches are great units with blink/fast healing...
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Roaches can blink?

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 29 2009, 03:50 PM)
... When attaching, the Thor's body transforms, pulling its arms and legs inside, becoming a more cube-like shape, and attaching to the bottom of the Dropship...
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Sounds nice but I wonder if it'll involve any delay while transforming?

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 29 2009, 03:50 PM)
... When the Raven unleashes its Hunter Seeker Missile, a large missile slowly flies toward its target, with a red laser constantly pointed at the target...
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Why call it missile if it flies slowly?

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 29 2009, 03:50 PM)
... After a certain amount of time without hitting its target, the Hunter Seeker Missile will harmlessly explode wherever it is when it runs out fuel...
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Runs out of fuel? Fuel? What?

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 29 2009, 03:50 PM)
... a player may be tempted to move their Raven very close to the intended target, however, the Hunter Seeker Missile will inflict damage on friendly units as well, including the Raven, so a hasty close-ranged launch of the Hunter Seeker Missile may spell certain doom for the Raven...
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Terran has too many units which hit friendly units!

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 29 2009, 03:50 PM)
... The Infested Terran start out as sacs that grow on the Infestor's back before falling to the ground and hatching. The Infested Terrans attack using their gauss rifles...
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Before we know it, Zerg has found a way to mass produce gauss rifles & conquer all Terrans by supplying them cheap.

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 29 2009, 03:50 PM)
... As we all hoped and expected, there is now a rewind button...
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Woo-hoo!

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 29 2009, 03:50 PM)
... The Mothership has been sent back to its early skill-set, with the Planet Cracker and Black Hole...
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Big counter towards Muta-stacking strategy & I thought Planet Cracker was canceled due to the graphic obstruction it caused with all the zappings?

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The rewind button is awesome.

I like the current hunter seeker now.

Not too bad,IMO.
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QUOTE(Zero @ Jun 28 2009, 10:53 PM)
The first battle was a Protoss versus Protoss match, on the 2-player map: Blistering Sands.  Both players had an amazing start, calling forth scores of Zealots and Stalkers to battle each other.  This was the first time that I had really seen the Obelisk, formerly the Dark Pylon, being used so much.  At their main bases, both players stationed an Obelisk, and would continually cast Proton Charge over their Probes, in order to allow them to carry additional resources for a short time.  As the battle pressed on, Matt Cooper gained the advantage, and kept David Kim from establishing a stable expansion.  After destroying the Nexus of the expansion, Cooper pressed forward with Immortals and Dark Templar in addition to his Zealots and Stalkers.  Kim sent forth a Colossus in defense, but Cooper's forces stormed up the ramp into his base and overwhelmed the Colossus.  Kim declared "GG" and the first match was over.
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Im looking to see that Battle Report then.

David Kim lost. rclxm9.gif
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There has been a rumour flying around that Blizzard will exclude the LAN feature in StarCraft 2. It's not confirmed but it was reported that it was due to a certain planned technology to be incorporated into the new Battle.net. hmm.gif

An anti-piracy strategy? Does this mean that every single system that wish to join a LAN game would be required to log into Battle.net first? Then those with no Internet access = no player against player experience?
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There has been a rumour flying around that Blizzard will exclude the LAN feature in StarCraft 2. It's not confirmed but it was reported that it was due to a certain planned technology to be incorporated into the new Battle.net. hmm.gif

An anti-piracy strategy? Does this mean that every single system that wish to join a LAN game would be required to log into Battle.net first? Then those with no Internet access = no player against player experience?
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I saw that rumour too,but i think it will fail.Look at flying spaghetti monster or you know what server.They manage to crack it till they have a functional Battlenet but no one is playing on the real Battlenet with pirated copy.

I say they might as well make something like Steam and offer SC2 frequent DLC content.Steam is a much harder to crack system and it have been quite successful so far.

Frequent DLC helps too,as it put you off from pirating a game.I wont want to pirate Sins of Solar Empire or DoW2 now.The retail v1.0 is so inferior compare to the latest version.New AI,new maps,new textures,bug fixes and the list goes on.Post release free DLC tempt pirated users to get the original game,like in DoW2,retail v1.0 have only 6 maps,while the upcoming version will have 17 maps.DoW2 have no map making tools yet.If you pirate,you are stuck with 6 maps with a retard AI.

EDIT: LOL,wtf with flying spaghetti monster.

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 29 2009, 08:00 PM)
I saw that rumour too,but i think it will fail.Look at flying spaghetti monster or flying spaghetti monster.They manage to crack it till they have a functional Battlenet but no one is playing on the real Battlenet with pirated copy.

I say they might as well make something like Steam and offer SC2 frequent DLC content.Steam is a much harder to crack system and it have been quite successful so far.

Frequent DLC helps too,as it put you off from pirating a game.I wont want to pirate Sins of Solar Empire or DoW2 now.The retail v1.0 is so inferior compare to the latest version.New AI,new maps,new textures,bug fixes and the list goes on.Post release free DLC tempt pirated users to get the original game,like in DoW2,retail v1.0 have only 6 maps,while the upcoming version will have 17 maps.DoW2 have no map making tools yet.If you pirate,you are stuck with 6 maps with a retard AI.
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I don't like the idea of frequent DLC. As you know, Blizzard has always pride themselves in making their games as perfect as possible with minimal update / patch for balancing purposes. They have even planned 2 expansions, hence they have ample of opportunities to apply whatever changes they deemed fit into StarCraft 2. With all these delays plus 2 expansions that fans need to fork out money for, the idea of frequent DLC with the excuse of combating piracy will not be welcomed with open hands by majority (or minority) of fans. sad.gif

As quoted below, I guess they're trying to revolutionize the Battle.net system & I do really hope that it'll turn out to be something that will make people go WOW (not World of Warcraft doh.gif).

Last but not least, about the FSMs that you mentioned there, I truly believe that DotA's popularity is part to be blamed for the existence of all these FSMs. Don't take me wrong though, I'm not saying that DotA is the root cause of piracy as I do have colleagues purchasing original copy of WarCraft 3 just to play that map in Battle.net.

Pray hard.
QUOTE(Gunnar Petzall @ Jun 29 2009, 05:46 AM)
StarCraft II will not have a local area networking (LAN) game mode.

Rob Pardo, senior VP of game design at Blizzard Entertainment confirmed in an interview with IncGamers that the StarCraft II development team "don't have any plans to support LAN," and clarified saying "we will not support it." The only multiplayer available will be on Battle.net.

IncGamers also got a clarification from Blizzard, shortly after the interview, saying the choice of excluding a LAN feature "is because of the planned technology to be incorporated into Battle.net," a topic they will reveal more about at a later date.

The original StarCraft gained popularity largely because of the easy LAN mode, used on massive LANs like Dreamhack or small personal networks between friends, so this is a surprising move by Blizzard.

Besides the full interview, make sure to check out our massive StarCraft II preview, videos, screenshots/art and other StarCraft II news from the event or visit our StarCraft channel StarcraftWire.net for further details.
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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jun 29 2009, 08:13 PM)
I don't like the idea of frequent DLC. As you know, Blizzard has always pride themselves in making their games as perfect as possible with minimal update / patch for balancing purposes. They have even planned 2 expansions, hence they have ample of opportunities to apply whatever changes they deemed fit into StarCraft 2. With all these delays plus 2 expansions that fans need to fork out money for, the idea of frequent DLC with the excuse of combating piracy will not be welcomed with open hands by majority (or minority) of fans. sad.gif

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I would prefer a method that rewards original owners than punish them like forcing them to login to their accounts,have unreturnable installation limits or removing features like LAN.

DLCs fit perfectly into this but i do know it is against Blizzard's philosophy.They could do it by releasing fun World Editor DLC.

Still,Steam isnt perfect,IMO,but i think to date,it's the best way to prevent piracy.At least zero day piracy.

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I would prefer a method that rewards original owners than punish them like forcing them to login to their accounts,have unreturnable installation limits or removing features like LAN.

DLCs fit perfectly into this but i do know it is against Blizzard's philosophy.

Still,Steam isnt perfect,IMO,but i think to date,it's the best day to prevent piracy.
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I actually have no doubt that StarCraft 2 will be akin to what Half Life 2 is with Valve. The whole speculation about Blizzard building their own platform was even before SC2's announcement. WIll people be pissed off? Sure they will. But people will eventually get it because it is the product that makes the difference.

BTW DLC not necessarily means paid stuff.
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QUOTE(frags @ Jun 29 2009, 08:30 PM)
I actually have no doubt that StarCraft 2 will be akin to what Half Life 2 is with Valve. The whole speculation about Blizzard building their own platform was even before SC2's announcement. WIll people be pissed off? Sure they will. But people will eventually get it because it is the product that makes the difference.

BTW DLC not necessarily means paid stuff.
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Yes,DLC does not mean paid stuff.

Im just thinking that Blizzard should use something more in the lines of what developers of TF2,DoW2 or Sins done to their games.

Maybe Blizzard is getting their own Steam. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 29 2009, 08:36 PM)
Yes,DLC does not mean paid stuff.

Im just thinking that Blizzard should use something more in the lines of what developers of TF2,DoW2 or Sins done to their games.

Maybe Blizzard is getting their own Steam. hmm.gif
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graphics are good! this is the graphic we will have to play with for another 10 years. LOL...

btw, no worry bout the no LAN mode. if the game is hot, "some" intelligent ppl will figure a way. brows.gif


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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jun 29 2009, 10:02 PM)
graphics are good! this is the graphic we will have to play with for another 10 years. LOL...

btw, no worry bout the no LAN mode. if the game is hot, "some" intelligent ppl will figure a way.  brows.gif
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I don't know if this has been mentioned amidst the flurry of Battle Reports being posted and dissected by everyone here.

Or even if its old news (RPS being time warped and shit)

But, apparently LAN play is tied to Battle.net which means you need to be online just to play LAN.

Source: RPS

That just put a HUGE dent for all cybercafe owners here. Unless of course they do something like Steam where the CD-key is tied to your Battle.net account (Which is what they did with the whole relaunch of the service earlier this year) whereby it'll be a GIGANTONOURMOUS crater for cybercafe owners.
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 30 2009, 02:15 AM)
That just put a HUGE dent for all pirate owners here. Unless of course they do something like Steam where the CD-key is tied to your Battle.net account (Which is what they did with the whole relaunch of the service earlier this year) whereby it'll be a GIGANTONOURMOUS crater for pirate owners.
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I bet they took this step to piss those who exploit the loopholes in the EULA like gayrena

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plz dont, if blizzard has their own version of Steam, I will go crazy opening up so many clients at 1 time.
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Yeah,i already have XFire,MSN,Steam,Skype on my desktop now.Another one,would be more inconvenient for me.

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I don't know if this has been mentioned amidst the flurry of Battle Reports being posted and dissected by everyone here.

Or even if its old news (RPS being time warped and shit)

But, apparently LAN play is tied to Battle.net which means you need to be online just to play LAN.

Source: RPS

That just put a HUGE dent for all cybercafe owners here. Unless of course they do something like Steam where the CD-key is tied to your Battle.net account (Which is what they did with the whole relaunch of the service earlier this year) whereby it'll be a GIGANTONOURMOUS crater for cybercafe owners.
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Hmmm. hmm.gif

I dont why is it bad for CC owners,other than they have to buy tonnes of SC2 and Blizzard will be richer.

It's really bad for pirates.

Hope the new Battlenet isnt as unstable as GFWL.


Added on June 30, 2009, 7:05 amSC2's Campaign Preview.

Link: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/59329

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 30 2009, 06:44 AM)
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Yeah,i already have XFire,MSN,Steam,Skype on my desktop now.Another one,would be more inconvenient for me.
Hmmm. hmm.gif

I dont why is it bad for CC owners,other than they have to buy tonnes of SC2 and Blizzard will be richer.

It's really bad for pirates.

Hope the new Battlenet isnt as unstable as GFWL.


Added on June 30, 2009, 7:05 amSC2's Campaign Preview.

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Currently, IINM, some of the cheaper cafe owners try to skimp a bit on buying originals for their games... Something like 1 original copy for every 3 PCs. That's why in certain cafes, when you attempt to play on Battle.net, you *might* get a CD-key conflict if someone else in the cafe is using the same key.

So, if it does require a CD-key just for LAN, cafe owners have two options:
1) Get an original copy for every PC in their cafe
2) Get a cracked pirated version that bypasses it. Problem is, they'll have a far trickier time updating the game.

If it is indeed tying CD-keys to accounts (Like with L4D and Company of Heroes), that just means that its IMPOSSIBLE to play it online in a cafe and they'll probably have to crack it. I know a lot of ppl who go to cafes don't actually have their own PC... Some of them like to play online all the same. This means they probably will have to buy a copy of their own.
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While I do understand the arguments about Cybers, if I want to play devil's advocate and put myself in Blizzard shoes, I still do not see the issue with people having to buy more copied of the game, it's more money for them.

They dun have to do marketing, they don't have to beg people to buy their game, they just have to make it good and it will sells as fast as they can produce it.

Sucks for cybers? Most probably
Sucks for people who may have to buy their own? Most probably, but they may enjoy original game for once
Sucks for Blizz? Hell no

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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 30 2009, 09:34 AM)
While I do understand the arguments about Cybers, if I want to play devil's advocate and put myself in Blizzard shoes, I still do not see the issue with people having to buy more copied of the game, it's more money for them.

They dun have to do marketing, they don't have to beg people to buy their game, they just have to make it good and it will sells as fast as they can produce it.

Sucks for cybers? Most probably
Sucks for people who may have to buy their own? Most probably, but they may enjoy original game for once
Sucks for Blizz? Hell no
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Not many ppl are willing to purchase a game just to play it in a cyber cafe (Which you already have to pay to use)

Let's not forget there's the whole "OMG DRM!" backlash that is currently surging through the Internet so it could possibly impact the sales somewhat.
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Not many ppl are willing to purchase a game just to play it in a cyber cafe (Which you already have to pay to use)

Let's not forget there's the whole "OMG DRM!" backlash that is currently surging through the Internet so it could possibly impact the sales somewhat.
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I think this might make SC2 not as popular as the original SC, making that step not being able to have LAN in SC2 is a bad move especially for countries like us which do not have stable internet connection. However I think they should make steps to kill pirated servers like Gayrena or make bnet duplication much harder. When it comes to making bnet as good as steam I have strong faith in blizzard for that as bnet have a strong back bone and support. Bnet was before steam and it was much more stable than steam I do not think that in the future that it will be any less than steam. However I hope that buying games from bnet 2.0 will have to be going through blizzard's stupid torrent, I never manage to be able to get it to work I wonder why they cant do a normal torrent for it and have a DRM protection for it.
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Too bad for LAN parties in the future no SC2 or you have to create your own crack server just to play on LAN. sad.gif
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Yar, after thinking more true SC1 was pretty famous for the LAN parties and it could hurt the longevity of the game in the long run.
Well, it could still change but I am sure pirate will find a way to use it in Lan so if Blizz is smart they would actually create their own support for it to make people more willing to buy original
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 30 2009, 12:33 PM)
Yar, after thinking more true SC1 was pretty famous for the LAN parties and it could hurt the longevity of the game in the long run.
Well, it could still change but I am sure pirate will find a way to use it in Lan so if Blizz is smart they would actually create their own support for it to make people more willing to buy original
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QUOTE(sniperz @ Jun 30 2009, 05:27 PM)
http://multiplay.lowyat.net/2009/06/29/sta...ing-to-console/

Games like this requires LAN or there's no way it to held it with 0 ping if there's a tournament etc stuffs.

Do hope they implement it back.
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LAN MODE IS STILL THERE.

Its just that you need to be connected to the Internet to use it... doh.gif
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 30 2009, 05:30 PM)
Oh for crying out loud.

LAN MODE IS STILL THERE.

Its just that you need to be connected to the Internet to use it... doh.gif
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How common for people to hook on to specific words and misunderstand the whole damn thing. ZOMG I can't play SC2 with my friends in a LAN party!

Like seriously do people honestly expect Blizzard to not have a solution if they plan to make this e-sport friendly? Oh wait what do we know of the new Battle.net?

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Well, when people refer to LAN it can also mean the ad-hoc LAN in someone's place where you just hook few computers to a switch, I did many of these during my uni times.

This kind of LAN will NOT be possible for SC2 (the link just above confirmed it).

Sure you can still play in cyber since they are connected, but asking that you connect to Bnet for all LAN is kinda meh in my opinion.

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I think it'll be best if we source our StarCraft 2 news from those dedicated fansites instead of going to those that was not invited by Blizzard to their HQ. Reason being that they often misconstrue what was being written by the invited representatives of the fansites & end up confusing lotsa people out there.

Heck, I'll even trust the trolls in Battle.net's SC2 GD forums rather than these sites that simply come up with their own interpretations. doh.gif

EDIT: Latest news / rumour is about Robert Clotworthy returning as Jim Raynor's voice actor... and the fans go wub.gif

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wow meaning v can't play in cafes ?? lolx.. thats erm kinda inconvenience.. but i'm sure most cafes will have license to play it..
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lol @ Blizz rtards trying to be greedy

They should have implemented a system like VAC (anti-cheat implementation for BNet) and f***ed off after that, let the "LAN" users get screwed badly by cheats and hacks (real LAN parties have relatively much less jackasses)


As of now all someone needs to really do is figure out the BNet protocol and try to reverse-engineer most of it, and reroute the connection (hosts file) from the middle. Depends on how the game really implements it.
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if no multiplayer / LAN mode when the retail is release, then blizzard should have a big problem to handle those gamers complain about it, just like in the past when EA release Need for speed : underground, which is not included LAN/multiplayer, end up with the solution of setup another network dedicate server.
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 30 2009, 07:21 PM)
Well, when people refer to LAN it can also mean the ad-hoc LAN in someone's place where you just hook few computers to a switch, I did many of these during my uni times.

This kind of LAN will NOT be possible for SC2 (the link just above confirmed it).

Sure you can still play in cyber since they are connected, but asking that you connect to Bnet for all LAN is kinda meh in my opinion.
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Technically, if you each own an original copy, it shouldn't be an issue. Since (I'm assuming), the games will still be hosted via peer to peer, after getting into the game... So, its kinda like LAN mode after that whistling.gif

QUOTE(hunterseek @ Jul 1 2009, 08:14 AM)
if no multiplayer / LAN mode when the retail is release, then blizzard should have a big problem to handle those gamers complain about it, just like in the past when EA release Need for speed : underground, which is not included LAN/multiplayer, end up with the solution of setup another network dedicate server.
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The only ones who actually complained are the pirates who couldn't play it in using Hamachi or cafe owners who were too skimp.

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jul 1 2009, 08:35 AM)
Technically, if you each own an original copy, it shouldn't be an issue. Since (I'm assuming), the games will still be hosted via peer to peer, after getting into the game... So, its kinda like LAN mode after that whistling.gif
The only ones who actually complained are the pirates who couldn't play in using Hamachi or cafe owners who were to skimp.
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But the type of LAN I was describing you simply have no internet connection, just a local LAN with a switch put somewhere. It's a pain in the butt to start configuring a shared internet connection just so you can "hi" to the BNet server to authenticate, even with everyone having an original copy.

I would say let's wait and see what are the very exact details but if it's how I understand it now, it's indeed a step backward from Blizzard in my opinion.
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jul 1 2009, 09:05 AM)
But the type of LAN I was describing you simply have no internet connection, just a local LAN with a switch put somewhere. It's a pain in the butt to start configuring a shared internet connection just so you can "hi" to the BNet server to authenticate, even with everyone having an original copy.

I would say let's wait and see what are the very exact details but if it's how I understand it now, it's indeed a step backward from Blizzard in my opinion.
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Is it really that hard these days? Just get a router which is hooked to the internet, connect hubs/switches to said router and voila! Everyone has Internet access already.

10 years ago, not everyone could afford routers and switches, but now, they're more common than Vista *rimshot*


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QUOTE(Maxd38 @ Jul 1 2009, 09:26 AM)
Holy crap, that petition is basically a giant "Waaa give us what we want" list. It even has the gall to ask Blizzard to "ignore" piracy. Also it seems like whoever wrote it dislikes Battle.net (Keeps alluding that it will be laggy).

At least the L4D2 petition didn't seem like they were asking Valve to enable the pirates. This one is like a kick in the nuts.
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Hmm if you do LAN at your friends' places, normally he got a wireless router with TM Nut access anyways. Very cheap so no issue there.

I'm only afraid the requirements will cause us to abandon our favorite CCs. It is very easy take the high moral road and say it is the CC's fault to not have originals + internet access, no one can argue with that. It still sucks a bit I guess.
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QUOTE(mad_geist @ Jul 1 2009, 10:29 AM)
Hell.. Pirate will still Pirate this game With or Without LAN..

and I as a fan who bought original SC1 game.. am disappointed that they required me to have Internet to play SC2 multiplayer..

I am a SC Fan and was going to buy the original copy.. but now I'm thinking to pirate this just for the heck of it

I want LAN Play.. and I signed the petition..

http://www.petitiononline.com/LANSC2/petition.html
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You go, you! Stick it to the man!

Seriously though, anyone got any concrete reason for why offline LAN play is so crucial?
Most cafes now have Internet, so cafes with pirated copies will only be affected
If you're having a LAN party at someone's house with no Internet, go somewhere else instead.

Really now... this is more reasonable than a service like Steam where to even play single player, you need to be online.
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I think LAN is still a crucial component for a game,especially FPS or RTS.

Removing it seems to be a bad idea,but,require to login to Battlenet seems much better than limited installations,call home all the time etc.
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jul 1 2009, 09:08 AM)
Is it really that hard these days? Just get a router which is hooked to the internet, connect hubs/switches to said router and voila! Everyone has Internet access already.

10 years ago, not everyone could afford routers and switches, but now, they're more common than Vista *rimshot*
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Then it will be a debate on the accessibility of internet.......
I still do not think that internet is that accessible in Malaysia in particular especially for small LAN parties. I've been to a few LAN parties in Malaysia and in Aus that does not have internet access.

I guess it still uncertain that how blizzard is going to implement it, and discussion here are based on speculation.

QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Jul 1 2009, 09:55 AM)
Hmm if you do LAN at your friends' places, normally he got a wireless router with TM Nut access anyways. Very cheap so no issue there.

I'm only afraid the requirements will cause us to abandon our favorite CCs. It is very easy take the high moral road and say it is the CC's fault to not have originals + internet access, no one can argue with that. It still sucks a bit I guess.
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That is assuming that atleast one friend is going to suscribe to wireless internet.

Making Bnet the only way to patch your SC2 would be one good way to eliminate piracy, cause the person that does not have original CD-keys will not be able to join in the LAN and only able to play with private servers and hamachi which does not include the new upgrades balances and bug fixes......

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Nah man... They should allow LAN and take it as an advertisement campaign, the EA's way.
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Seriously though, anyone got any concrete reason for why offline LAN play is so crucial?
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Yes. People like us have LAN sessions with colleagues when on overseas assignments. It is fairly hard to procure internet access on these situations.


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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 1 2009, 10:40 AM)
I think LAN is still a crucial component for a game,especially FPS or RTS.

Removing it seems to be a bad idea,but,require to login to Battlenet seems much better than limited installations,call home all the time etc.
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This doesn't mean there's no LAN play AT ALL... Just that you need an internet connection. Even now if you were to initiate a match in Battle.net for Warcraft 3, if you were matched up with ppl over LAN, in essence, it becomes a LAN only game since its p2p based connections. Its common sense.

All this means is that you just need to be connected to Battle.net to make that connection. Basically, this weeds out the pirates.

PS. Isn't this basically the same as a "call home all the time" service?

QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jul 1 2009, 10:40 AM)
Then it will be a debate on the accessibility of internet.......
I still do not think that internet is that accessible in Malaysia in particular especially for small LAN parties. I've been to a few LAN parties in Malaysia and in Aus that does not have internet access.

I guess it still uncertain that how blizzard is going to implement it, and discussion here are based on speculation.
That is assuming that atleast one friend is going to suscribe to wireless internet.
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How often do we have LAN parties in Malaysia? The kind where a giant warehouse is rented and 100+ ppl attend and Internet access may be unavailable?

Most LAN parties here are done in someone's house or in a cafe... Most of which come with Internet access.


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Yes. People like us have LAN sessions with colleagues when on overseas assignments. It is fairly hard to procure internet access on these situations.
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Fair enough... But you have to admit that this is a fairly uncommon scenario... unlike the more common scenario of pirates playing on LAN or Hamachi.

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Yes. People like us have LAN sessions with colleagues when on overseas assignments. It is fairly hard to procure internet access on these situations.
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Well there you go when you have a few people with Laptop with original SC installed you can already play SC multilayer but now you need a internet connection with SC2.

QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jul 1 2009, 10:47 AM)
*sigh*

This doesn't mean there's no LAN play AT ALL... Just that you need an internet connection. Even now if you were to initiate a match in Battle.net for Warcraft 3, if you were matched up with ppl over LAN, in essence, it becomes a LAN only game since its p2p based connections. Its common sense.

All this means is that you just need to be connected to Battle.net to make that connection. Basically, this weeds out the pirates.

PS. Isn't this basically the same as a "call home all the time" service?
How often do we have LAN parties in Malaysia? The kind where a giant warehouse is rented and 100+ ppl attend and Internet access may be unavailable?

Most LAN parties here are done in someone's house or in a cafe... Most of which come with Internet access.


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Fair enough... But you have to admit that this is a fairly uncommon scenario... unlike the more common scenario of pirates playing on LAN or Hamachi.
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Not having LAN does not mean that it will weed out piracy look at all the pirated servers around that replaces the online only features...........

In most case senario we have LAN parties in homes that either just moved in or holiday houses that do not have internet connection so that it does not bother other family members or have too much furniture. In those cases those places do not have internet connection. In those scenario SC2 multiplayer will not be an option.


It all concludes to:
Blizzard excluding LAN in SC2 will just make it much more inconvenient for people who purchase SC2 to play multiplayer. Simple as that.

DAMN YOU PIRATES.
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jul 1 2009, 11:02 AM)
Well there you go when you have a few people with Laptop with original SC installed you can already play SC multilayer but now you need a internet connection with SC2.
Not having LAN does not mean that it will weed out piracy look at all the pirated servers around that replaces the online only features...........

In most case senario we have LAN parties in homes that either just moved in or holiday houses that do not have internet connection so that it does not bother other family members or have too much furniture. In those cases those places do not have internet connection. In those scenario SC2 multiplayer will not be an option.
It all concludes to:
Blizzard excluding LAN in SC2 will just make it much more inconvenient for people who purchase SC2 to play multiplayer. Simple as that.

DAMN YOU PIRATES.
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Again, its an uncommon scenario (How often are you going to conduct a LAN party at someone's house who just moved in?)

Might as well complain that SC2 doesn't have a modem to modem direct dialing connection mode... THINK ABOUT THE DIALUP USERS PLEASE!

Its not that big an inconvenience.
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One thing that is not perfectly clear for me is:

Ok, you need to logon to Bnet to play LAN, let's live with it, let's take the case where you do have an internet connection, everyone has an original, all good.

Once you start playing, are the packets going to stay on your local network or do they need to go through Bnet as well?
I know that if they do go through Bnet then it's not really a LAN anymore but now I am really wondering how it will work.

I do think it's high chance it's going to stay on the local network but then what exactly stop people to use the same copy and logon one at a time, then unplug the net and use the LAN.

I dunno, I still find that system a hassle for legit users while I am sure the pirated version will have a way to play LAN without requiring Bnet

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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jul 1 2009, 11:16 AM)
One thing that is not perfectly clear for me is:

Ok, you need to logon to Bnet to play LAN, let's live with it, let's take the case where you do have an internet connection, everyone has an original, all good.

Once you start playing, are the packets going to stay on your local network or do they need to go through Bnet as well?
I know that if they do go through Bnet then it's not really a LAN anymore but now I am really wondering how it will work.

I do think it's high chance it's going to stay on the local network but then what exactly stop people to use the same copy and logon one at a time, then unplug the net and use the LAN.

I dunno, I still find that system a hassle for legit users while I am sure the pirated version will have a way to play LAN without requiring Bnet
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In Warcraft 3, in a Battle.net game, all clients on the same LAN would be matched as such. So, if they're using the same system it would mean that its LAN based in execution.

You could argue that all this does is make legit customers jump through hoops while the pirates can play hassle free (Ironic ain't it?)... Assuming of course the game is easily crackable that is.
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You probably can't re-use the same logon on multiple clients, since you are still matched via the centralized Battlenet lobby.

However, once the game is in session packets will be local (?)
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jul 1 2009, 11:16 AM)
One thing that is not perfectly clear for me is:

Ok, you need to logon to Bnet to play LAN, let's live with it, let's take the case where you do have an internet connection, everyone has an original, all good.

Once you start playing, are the packets going to stay on your local network or do they need to go through Bnet as well?
I know that if they do go through Bnet then it's not really a LAN anymore but now I am really wondering how it will work.

I do think it's high chance it's going to stay on the local network but then what exactly stop people to use the same copy and logon one at a time, then unplug the net and use the LAN.

I dunno, I still find that system a hassle for legit users while I am sure the pirated version will have a way to play LAN without requiring Bnet
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Again, its an uncommon scenario (How often are you going to conduct a LAN party at someone's house who just moved in?)

Might as well complain that SC2 doesn't have a modem to modem direct dialing connection mode... THINK ABOUT THE DIALUP USERS PLEASE!

Its not that big an inconvenience.
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The more common scenario is that I want to play SC2 between the 3 coms in my house when my friends visits and suddenly I cant connect to shitmyx. vmad.gif

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In Warcraft 3, in a Battle.net game, all clients on the same LAN would be matched as such. So, if they're using the same system it would mean that its LAN based in execution.

You could argue that all this does is make legit customers jump through hoops while the pirates can play hassle free (Ironic ain't it?)... Assuming of course the game is easily crackable that is.
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Thats the irony of PC gaming thesedays, but if piracy isnt hurting developers profit so much this might not occur. I can see that blizzard is also eliminating the probability that one copy being played among a few computers at home.

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Please do not post about private server/IP tunnellers. You know the rules here. They are irrelevant really. If you like the game buy it. It is none of our business to worry about how they are going to go about pirate it.
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Alright, so is it released yet? WhUre can I has maH Sc2 GUYS!?!?!






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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jul 1 2009, 01:34 PM)
my arse. I get the ori, i will also use anything i could to play the way i like it.
i used nocd for my ori GoW.

so shut that hole before understanding what i meant.
knowing nothing can prevent piracy. unless you can prove that by taking out LAN, blizzard could actually cut down on piracy for such hot games.
till then, yeah. stay shut.
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Chill man...frankly speaking, he has a point.
And the way u wrote I think a lot of ppl will misunderstand what you meant.


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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jul 1 2009, 11:30 AM)
All these DRM thingy always makes it a hassle for people who buys original copy. poor us.


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The more common scenario is that I want to play SC2 between the 3 coms in my house when my friends visits and suddenly I cant connect to shitmyx.  vmad.gif
Thats the irony of PC gaming thesedays, but if piracy isnt hurting developers profit so much this might not occur. I can see that blizzard is also eliminating the probability that one copy being played among a few computers at home.
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Guys....have some faith....
I have been playing Blizzard games since Warcraft II.
And not once, has Blizzard disappointed in providing a fun and exciting experience.
There are a lot of really smart & experienced ppl working there.
And they do read their customer's thoughts from forums.

So fingers crossed until Blizzard announces anything official.
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jul 1 2009, 01:34 PM)
my arse. I get the ori, i will also use anything i could to play the way i like it.
i used nocd for my ori GoW.

so shut that hole before understanding what i meant.
knowing nothing can prevent piracy. unless you can prove that by taking out LAN, blizzard could actually cut down on piracy for such hot games.
till then, yeah. stay shut.
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Non-authorized tools are against the EULA which indirectly give birth to more security features. Blizzard has been trying their best not to let another repeat of iCCup (StarCraft) & Gayrena (WarCraft 3) in the new StarCraft II.

Anyway, flame all you want. Updates from Karune:
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I think the reasons starcraft has lasted so long as a game and community are because:

1) Well designed and fun to play game.

2) Free battle.net - Having a place where gamers can come together and play the game 24/7 helps to foster a bolster and lively community.

3) Continued support for the game even after 11 years, they still patch it when it needs a patch.

4) Pro-Starcraft gaming. This is a big deal to serious starcraft players or to anyone that enjoys competition. These games are fun to watch and makes casual players want to play the game.

5) Lan support. - Lan parties are fun.

If you take away LAN support you will still have the 4 other pillars for a strong starcraft community. Plus if LAN support helps rid battle.net of hackers, cheaters and piracy because the network traffic is harder to decipher then all the better. That only strengthens the spirit of fair competition on battle.net.

The first 4 pillars are ALL being made better.

1) Development time for StarCraft II have far exceeded the original StarCraft in both the standard of quality and duration, to ensure the highest in quality RTS experience we can possibly create.

2) Not only is it free to play online for people who purchase the game, Battle.net 2.0 is designed with the new generation of online community and eSports in mind.

3) As long as there are people playing our games, we will continue to support them, and we have continued with this tradition with our legacy titles like the original StarCraft.

4) StarCraft II was created with eSports as a cornerstone in design philosophy. StarCraft evolved into an eSport.

5) Map Editor will be better than any we have ever released.

and:

6) ??? - will have to wait and see

For me personally- I loved LAN parties, but the direction in which Battle.net is headed, I would always choose to play on Battle.net > 99% of the time and even if for whatever reason I did decide to lug my computer to a friend's house in this day of age (<1%), I would still be playing with them on Battle.net against others at their place.

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That's his point. Even if you do lug your "beast" around, he is saying that battle.net will clearly have better abilities than regular LAN.

I for one have full faith in Blizzard, and though I do disagree with taking LAN out as a whole, I do feel that in the end whatever they provide as an alternative will not only suffice, but make things all the better.

Ye of little faith shall perish.

As mentioned by Rob Pardo in interviews, piracy is a serious problem and often times tie in closely with LAN. At the end of the day, we want the best for the community and fans that support our games, and having chunk of the community pirate the game actually hurts the community.

1) Pirated servers splinter the community instead of consolidating all players who love to play the game. Battle.net will bring players together in skirmishes, ladder play, custom games, and allow everyone the opportunity to share a common experience.

2) More people on Battle.net means more even more resources devoted to evolving this online platform to cater to further community building and new ways to enjoy the game online. World of Warcraft is a great example of a game that has evolved beyond anyone's imagination since their Day 1 and will continue to do so to better the player experience for as long as players support the title. The original StarCraft is an even better example of how 11 years later, players still love and play this title, and we will continue to support and evolve it with patches.

We would not take out LAN if we did not feel we could offer players something better.

If I were to buy StarCraft II or any other title, I know the money I spent would be going to supporting that title. Personally, I would be upset that others were freeloading while others are legitimately supporting a title that has great potential and goals of making this title have 'long legs.'

If you like a song a lot, buy it, and that artist will only come out with more awesome songs for you. If you like a game, buy it, and we will promise to constantly work to make the player experience better at every corner we can.

Support the causes you believe in (This is applicable to all things, not just gaming).
Don't be a leech to society, innovation, and further awesome creations.

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A question I feel is really pressing, requiring Internet to play over LAN means one more thing for people to maintain at large gatherings. What happens if the Internet goes out at a SC2 LAN tournament? A Proleague game?

Dreamhack is often referenced as the largest LAN party in the world... but in today's age, that LAN is also connected to the internet.

I definitely hear your concern about the internet going out, which would be a huge, huge bummer! But as equally as unlikely, the power could go out...

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Karune, what about latency issues involved in online play.

ICCUP in Starcraft and LC games in Warcraft 3 are all attempts to reduce Battlenet lag. What is Blizzard doing to combat this lag if they are removing LAN play?

This is definitely a legitimate concern that would be best to be brought up again if needed when we talk about Battle.net 2.0.

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Oh, Karune, you know as well as I do that anti-piracy and LAN are not mutually exclusive.

Step 1: Connect to Battle.Net
Step 2: Authentication
Step 3: Access LAN games thereafter

There you go. Authenticated LAN play. Low latency. LAN parties. Happy customers.

I will be sure to forward ideas in regards to LAN as described. I too have many fond memories of LAN parties.

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You forget that as a Blizzard employee, his internet doesn't work by the conventional scientific means. Indeed, it would be best if we were to use the analogy of magic to explain how it is that Blizzard accesses the internet.

See, it's magic, it never fails. He has no clue what you're talking about.

Looks like the trolls are back. Hope I was able to address some of the LAN concerns. Honestly, there isn't much more to be said until we start talking about Battle.net 2.0, so if there are other threads about the recent Battle Report or press visit, going to divert some attention over there.
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jul 1 2009, 08:47 PM)
yeah, like taking out LAN people will stay put and wont do anything.
hell, we even have WoW private server. There's no limit to what people can do out there. do you think pirates will care bout EULA? LMAO! welcome to internet age.

yeah, more copy and paste.
anyways, we shall see when the game releases.
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So why should we care? I said no more post about private servers. Whether they are able to play SC2 or is none of our business.

Enough about this.

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lol i dont care about the LAN and Pirxxxx thingy as im gonna get original for sure
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For those who are really miffed about this LAN-less Starcraft, be a man, stand up to it, don't buy Starcraft 2. Do not buy something that you dislike, or does not suit your requirements.
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For those who are really miffed about this LAN-less Starcraft, be a man, stand up to it, don't buy Starcraft 2. Do not buy something that you dislike, or does not suit your requirements.
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Well....I couldn't care if there is LAN or not...I'm still getting it.
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frags, bear with me for a minute, k? wink.gif

Guys, you make it sound as though Battle.net emulators will emerge THE MOMENT the game is released.

How long did it take for these Battle.net emulators for both Starcraft and Warcraft 3 to emerge? A year? 2 years? Even then they're pretty much dead useless (Its workable on Warcraft 3 because of DotA, which isn't natively supported by Battle.net, so obviously there'll be a following)

The reason I'm saying this is not to say "frags is wrong, you guys can talk about warez servers freely now!" but more of the pirates aren't going to win so easily this time like with other games.

So...
Don't simply assume that because of this move by Blizzard, automatically the pirates win and the owners lose out... because on release, I highly doubt Battle.net will be cracked so soon. Therefore no more talk on these servers as though they're going to come about so soon.

Also,
nobody has really given me any really solid proof as to why "Offline LAN = bad". Those scenarios that happens once in a blue moon don't really count.

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frags, bear with me for a minute, k? wink.gif

Guys, you make it sound as though Battle.net emulators will emerge THE MOMENT the game is released.

How long did it take for these Battle.net emulators for both Starcraft and Warcraft 3 to emerge? A year? 2 years? Even then they're pretty much dead useless (Its workable on Warcraft 3 because of DotA, which isn't natively supported by Battle.net, so obviously there'll be a following)

The reason I'm saying this is not to say "frags is wrong, you guys can talk about warez servers freely now!" but more of the pirates aren't going to win so easily this time like with other games.

So...
Don't simply assume that because of this move by Blizzard, automatically the pirates win and the owners lose out... because on release, I highly doubt Battle.net will be cracked so soon. Therefore no more talk on these servers as though they're going to come about so soon.

Also,
nobody has really given me any really solid proof as to why "Offline LAN = bad". Those scenarios that happens once in a blue moon don't really count.

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Exactly, that is what I hope this discussion will move towards to. How is this bad for you or all of us customers.

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yeah...maybe my point was a lil confusing. lol...

okay, i will state one. i come from stone age of streamyx and that time we do not need routers. so i dont wanna buy one just for "online activated lan" for one game. laugh.gif LAN option for blizzard is a very simple thing i believe. so without it, me and my stone-age friends would not be able to enjoy the game in simplest way. plus nowadays economy really not that good, so a Rm100 router is out of the question, not forgetting that SC2 comes in 3 parts.

think also cold sweat come out already.
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jul 2 2009, 12:07 AM)

So...
Don't simply assume that because of this move by Blizzard, automatically the pirates win and the owners lose out... because on release, I highly doubt Battle.net will be cracked so soon. Therefore no more talk on these servers as though they're going to come about so soon.

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You know what,people just love to b**** when something changes.Especially the stuff which appears to be different from usual.

People used to complain about Steam when it first come with HL2.I did too when i only own DoW2.

People complain again with EA's Securom,even though it's pretty good now.

Im not surprised that people will complain because they have to login to Battlenet just o play offline LAN.I might as well wait for the full game comes out,and see how is it.

At least Blizzard give you a LAN mode.Games like Prostreet,Burnout or Undercover have no LAN at all.

Still,these days,i dont even use LAN for the games i play.There isnt any use now.
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well steam i can start in offline mode...i can have lan games cept L4D (cant see in menu), but with the powerful console (~), you can almost do anything. i dont play EA games for that man. no online EA games for me.

well, every gamer has their own requirements. but i hope bliz could shed some more light in the future.
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Anyone here from east malaysia? i would like to know where can i buy an original copy of the game when it is released. Is it possible to get it in Kuching and Miri? Cause last time i went to kuching i can only found blizzard's games like WOW & W3 at The Spring. Other games like D2 & Starcraft are nowhere to be found. Can someone tell me whether there is a place to buy those games in Kuching and Miri?

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nobody has really given me any really solid proof as to why "Offline LAN = bad". Those scenarios that happens once in a blue moon don't really count.
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Why should we? Your only strategy is to dismiss all credible scenarios as statistically once in a blue moon.
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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Jul 2 2009, 09:40 AM)
Why should we? Your only strategy is to dismiss all credible scenarios as statistically once in a blue moon.
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I meant to say uncommon scenarios, so my apologies for using the wrong phrase (My excuse is, I was really tired last night... Like REALLY).

Frankly, LAN stopped being relevant awhile back. Conversely, IP tunnelers have been on the rise instead. So, I kinda understand Blizzard's stance on this.

They probably weighed the pros and cons off ruling out said "uncommon scenarios" in order to prevent these IP tunneling and LAN party pirates. I guess the pros outweighed the cons...

Or Blizzard are just dicks and want to make us suffer through the Internet.

Now, the only reason for concern over this issue would be if they make it so that making custom games over Battle.net a total pain in the ass.
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Oh well, nevermind sad.gif I'm probably taking this too seriously myself.

I'll buy the game regardless of LAN or not biggrin.gif


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People complain again with EA's Securom,even though it's pretty good now.
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Securom is only 'better', not 'pretty good', because DRM is never good.

The only reason you see Securom to be better is that customers nagged and complained endless to the point that they have to change their policies regarding DRM. If it werent for the public outcry, we'd have DVD installers capable of only 3 installs per PC. Yeah, have fun with that.



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QUOTE(mylife4nerzhul @ Jul 2 2009, 09:57 AM)
Securom is only 'better', not 'pretty good', because DRM is never good.

The only reason you see Securom to be better is that customers nagged and complained endless to the point that they have to change their policies regarding DRM. If it werent for the public outcry, we'd have DVD installers capable of only 3 installs per PC. Yeah, have fun with that.
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I think you meant to say "3 installs in total"... If the limitation is just 3 installs on ANY number of PCs, it'll be like the greatest DRM eva!

Also,
Public outcry just increased that number to 5.

Yay team!
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If I were still in Malaysia (hello Shitmyx!) I would be slgithy unhappy about the Bnet-is-a-must thinggy since the internet is so crap.

Right now I dun really mind but I can imagine some tears coming from Malaysia when Shytmix is acting up and people can't connect for authentication (kinda like how people are shouting at Steam sometimes while the issue is actually Tmnet, I had 0 issue login to Steam since I am out).

But hey, I play mostly SP anyway tongue.gif

It's no "big" deal, just slightly not convenient for legit users and kinda a big move away from the old style of LAN which greatly contributed to SC1 success, that's why I am kinda rubbed off by this change.

Personally I am sure SC2 is going to be one of the biggest hit in the last few years and will stay for many years to come, so even if they made it DRM free, people would still buy it to be able to play on Bnet.
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I ask you forumers, where were you first introduced to Starcraft? I bet most of you will say from cybercafes, where the game used to be played on LAN.

In fact, without LAN, the game wouldn't have never even rooted into the Korean gaming scene. In fact, if the game had no LAN, it would turn out to be just another RTS game that nobody would give a shit about in 10 years time.

And I know I should not comment anything about warez, but let us be honest here; Starcraft became famous not through the people that bought the ori ones, but through people who play the pirated ones on LAN cybercafes and at homes and then buying the original ones. Those who didn't buy the original copies only spread the word about Starcraft to another, and another, so that more people would buy the original copies. It's viral advertisement through piracy. The same goes with Warcraft 3.

It seems that Blizzard forgot who brought them to the dance in the first place, which is understandable since Blizzard and Activision are Best Friends Forever now.

If you want issues about non-LAN, then how about this: the ability to play the game without any lag at all. Not all ISPs are fast, and all of you know how 'blazingly fast' our Streamyx connection speed is. If you're happy with playing the game at 500 ping, then it's fine for you, but not fine for a lot of us.

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So in summary

Blame gayrena,ip tunnelers for making lan disappear from SC2

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QUOTE(mylife4nerzhul @ Jul 2 2009, 10:22 AM)
I ask you forumers, where were you first introduced to Starcraft? I bet most of you will say from cybercafes, where the game used to be played on LAN.

In fact, without LAN, the game wouldn't have never even rooted into the Korean gaming scene. In fact, if the game had no LAN, it would turn out to be just another RTS game that nobody would give a shit about in 10 years time.

And I know I should not comment anything about warez, but let us be honest here; Starcraft became famous not through the people that bought the ori ones, but through people who play the pirated ones on LAN cybercafes and at homes and then buying the original ones. Those who didn't buy the original copies only spread the word about Starcraft to another, and another, so that more people would buy the original copies. It's viral advertisement through piracy. The same goes with Warcraft 3.

It seems that Blizzard forgot who brought them to the dance in the first place, which is understandable since Blizzard and Activision are Best Friends Forever now.

If you want issues about non-LAN, then how about this: the ability to play the game without any lag at all. Not all ISPs are fast, and all of you know how 'blazingly fast' our Streamyx connection speed is. If you're happy with playing the game at 500 ping, then it's fine for you, but not fine for a lot of us.
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Actually, my first introduction to multiplayer Starcraft was through Modem to modem connections... I think I only tried it in cafes MUCH later (Because, cafes at the time were bloody expensive)

Actually, Korea has one of the highest Internet penetration and coverage in the entire world. So, if anything, this move is made to benefit THEM.

I don't think its valid to argue that Starcraft 2 should be lenient with piracy just because the first one was. We are no longer in that same backward situation where it was very difficult to find original copies. Previously, yes, physical word of mouth was more important as Internet penetration at the time was very low, so getting the word out on your game was difficult, subsequently though, piracy was harder as well. Now, just about everyone is connected and "viral marketing" doesn't need to rely on actual physical actions anymore.

Again, let me say that Blizzard are not idiots when it comes to implementing connections over LAN. Even now when using Battle.net for Warcraft 3, if you are connected to someone on the same LAN, you are directly connected to them on not over the Internet... Stop with the "Only internet connection" rubbish.
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But the thing I'm concern about is...

If there's less LAN that able to buy all ori copies for their PCs, The popularity would be decreased. eg. Battlefield 2, etc. Wouldn't it bad for their competitive scene? Just my 2 cents.
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QUOTE(syNcv9 @ Jul 2 2009, 11:38 AM)
But the thing I'm concern about is...

If there's less LAN that able to buy all ori copies for their PCs, The popularity would be decreased. eg. Battlefield 2, etc. Wouldn't it bad for their competitive scene? Just my 2 cents.
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Battlefield 2 tied CD-keys to accounts (Like Dawn of War 2 and the later Company of Heroes games), so unless everyone wanted to play a generic cafe account which had trivial stats or brought their own accounts, there was no point in playing in a cafe.

From what I can tell (Or hope) to do now is hope that CD-keys are still divorced from Battle.net accounts (Like with Warcraft 3). Which means you can access your account from any copy of Warcraft 3 as long as the CD-key is original.

Doubtful though considering what Blizzard seems to be doing with Battle.net at the moment (Currently they're tying CD-keys to accounts)

So yeah, cafes would obviously feel it the most when this comes to past and at the same time ppl will probably have to get their own copies just to play on Bnet in cafes.

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Errr there are much more debate on this LAN issue on the official battle.net forum in the StarCraft II General Discussion section. Again and again its the debate of the poison or the cancer. Too tired to disscuss LAN or not I'll still buy just hope there is thats all.
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Another important thing ppl should understand is....

"You should buy the original game to enjoy whatever is in the game"

Stop having the mindset that you can "play without paying".
This LAN issue is really not so serious if the person talking is planning on getting an ori game for themselves.
So what if they tie a CD key to an account? I'll just login my ori and enjoy LAN after that.

And frankly, our local scene is a bit different from the international scene where Koreans are the majority of "true ori supporters" for Blizzard games. You can't blame Blizzard for siding them since we are not "donating" as much cash sales.

So, go get yourselves an ori copy.
And let the guys at Blizzard deal with the tech behind the game, LAN or no LAN.
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QUOTE(mylife4nerzhul @ Jul 2 2009, 09:57 AM)
Securom is only 'better', not 'pretty good', because DRM is never good.

The only reason you see Securom to be better is that customers nagged and complained endless to the point that they have to change their policies regarding DRM. If it werent for the public outcry, we'd have DVD installers capable of only 3 installs per PC. Yeah, have fun with that.
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For me,it's pretty good.

Securom is pretty much what i like.Install and forget.

Never touch the disc again.

The new Battlenet features are still very vague,i would say we wait and see how is it when the full feature comes out.


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Another important thing ppl should understand is....

"You should buy the original game to enjoy whatever is in the game"

Stop having the mindset that you can "play without paying".
This LAN issue is really not so serious if the person talking is planning on getting an ori game for themselves.
So what if they tie a CD key to an account? I'll just login my ori and enjoy LAN after that.

And frankly, our local scene is a bit different from the international scene where Koreans are the majority of "true ori supporters" for Blizzard games. You can't blame Blizzard for siding them since we are not "donating" as much cash sales.

So, go get yourselves an ori copy.
And let the guys at Blizzard deal with the tech behind the game, LAN or no LAN.
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Yes it's true.

People should just avoid buying pirated now.Even pirated games have their own "DRM" now which is the disc automatically dies after 2 installs.Awesome,isnt it?

I do agree with what PCHo says,games arent something that you can play without paying.Games these days are very complex and difficult to make.So,please support ori whenever you can.

If you like the game,buy it.If not,dont play at all.

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Orange box is RM35 on steam?!?
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QUOTE(komputer @ Jul 3 2009, 08:27 AM)
Orange box is RM35 on steam?!?
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There used to be an offer for RM35.

Few weeks ago.Assasin Creed was also RM35.

Ori games arent so expensive these days.
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Orange box is RM35 on steam?!?
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Please stay on topic this is not a HL thread.
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Yes, I will buy the ori copy, you will buy ori copy. However, it's hard to popularized the game without people that playing LAN. Face it, they are the one that make the game popular even though they are stingy bstard. Well, just thing in my head.
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QUOTE(syNcv9 @ Jul 3 2009, 10:57 AM)
Yes, I will buy the ori copy, you will buy ori copy. However, it's hard to popularized the game without people that playing LAN. Face it, they are the one that make the game popular even though they are stingy bstard. Well, just thing in my head.
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Unfortunately...those that make the game popular are pirates....and they influence others may resort to piracy as well.

So, depending on the mindset on those that they influenced, it may be a good thing ( those being influenced will get ori copies) or a very bad thing (mass torrent ppl LULZ).

In the end, I'm fine with no LAN anyways...since I only have one rig in my house capable of running games and I'm always connected to the internet unless Streamyx decides otherwise
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Jul 3 2009, 11:08 AM)
Unfortunately...those that make the game popular are pirates....and they influence others may resort to piracy as well.

So, depending on the mindset on those that they influenced, it may be a good thing ( those being influenced will get ori copies) or a very bad thing (mass torrent ppl LULZ).

In the end, I'm fine with no LAN anyways...since I only have one rig in my house capable of running games and I'm always connected to the internet unless Streamyx decides otherwise
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Mass torrenting is still ok, the worst case scenario are those bluddy chinks Ftard that pirate the game host it on their site make their own cheapo LAN server and collect money monthly from advertisers like the blizzard games are rightfully theirs. vmad.gif mad.gif

Thats what made blizzard make this move I think cos ori-blizzard games are already dirt cheap in china and they still get this in return. After reading whats happening in china I think blizzard have to make this move.
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Yes, I will buy the ori copy, you will buy ori copy. However, it's hard to popularized the game without people that playing LAN. Face it, they are the one that make the game popular even though they are stingy bstard. Well, just thing in my head.
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Then,it's time to educate those stingy baskets then.
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I think everyone who love this game would ultimately buy the originals.

That's no doubt about that.

Up to date patches with support, able to play freely in battle.net are among the reasons for going for originals.

To me, SC2 is like a making of an "uber" game.

What so ever excuses some people would give to defend about the dismissal of the LAN function,

the LAN option had always been an excellent component for the development in SC legacy.

It would somehow be a dissapointment to see its absence the coming SC2.

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Not much update recently, except the fact that the StarCraft II Beta icon has finally being implemented into the EU Battle.net.

StarCraft Legacy (a well known StarCraft fansite) , in association with Tractor Media has produced a breathtaking StarCraft cinematic which die-hard fans can easily relate to as the first contact between Terran & Protoss on Chau Sara:



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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jul 8 2009, 01:00 AM)
Not much update recently, except the fact that the StarCraft II Beta icon has finally being implemented into the EU Battle.net.

StarCraft Legacy (a well known StarCraft fansite) , in association with Tractor Media has produced a breathtaking StarCraft cinematic which die-hard fans can easily relate to as the first contact between Terran & Protoss on Chau Sara:


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Awesome mass recall (I didn't see the Arbiter till after the recall though. Tassadar's carrier can use Recall?? O___o)
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Awesome mass recall (I didn't see the Arbiter till after the recall though. Tassadar's carrier can use Recall?? O___o)
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You can see the Arbiter at 1:18. Tassadar requested the Judicator (most probably Aldaris) to initiate the recall. smile.gif
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Dind know protoss carrier have a main laser beam.

Didn know that there are zergs working in tractor media. laugh.gif

http://www.tractormedia.ro/artists_Armored...php?language=Ze

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Dind know protoss carrier have a main laser beam.
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Well, it was explained by StarCraft Legacy that "this carrier with laser beam" was inspired from the official StarCraft II Carrier website:
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Most carriers have no weapon batteries of any kind, but their deployment of interceptor flights makes them devastating in a ship-to-ship battle. However, a handful of heavily armed "super carriers" exist, most famously the Gantrithor. This was the flagship of Executor Tassadar when he led a protoss expeditionary force in its attempts to eradicate the zerg in terran space. The Gantrithor was powerful enough that it single-handedly defeated an entire terran battlecruiser squadron under the command of General Edmund Duke.

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Well, it was explained by StarCraft Legacy that "this carrier with laser beam" was inspired from the official StarCraft II Carrier website:
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Ahh damn in the last protoss mission of starcraft vanila I controlled that carrier but no laser beam. cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jul 8 2009, 07:16 PM)
Well, it was explained by StarCraft Legacy that "this carrier with laser beam" was inspired from the official StarCraft II Carrier website:
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Carriers are used occasionally against terran but definitely not against zerg in SC1 pro-level. Wonder how did it work out in the real story against zerg though biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Jul 8 2009, 07:26 PM)
Carriers are used occasionally against terran but definitely not against zerg in SC1 pro-level. Wonder how did it work out in the real story against zerg though  biggrin.gif
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Against well microed zergs carriers get slaughtered with scrounges.
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jul 8 2009, 07:37 PM)
Against well microed zergs carriers get slaughtered with scrounges.
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Even against less microed zergs....Scourges can just flood in and blow up the Carrier.

With the Queen's Ensnare, Carrier is nothing more than a minor irritation
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QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Jul 8 2009, 07:26 PM)
Carriers are used occasionally against terran but definitely not against zerg in SC1 pro-level. Wonder how did it work out in the real story against zerg though  biggrin.gif
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Cinematics tend to exaggerate a unit's capability, especially on hero units. Else, how do you explain one of the StarCraft cinematics where a mere buggy managed to kill a Zergling just by knocking over it. biggrin.gif


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If the game is like the cinematics then you all will complain that its imba.
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Jul 8 2009, 08:26 PM)
Even against less microed zergs....Scourges can just flood in and blow up the Carrier.

With the Queen's Ensnare, Carrier is nothing more than a minor irritation
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true but when several high templars comes in and spam hallucination onto the carriers and cast those lightnings (forgot the name)

it becomes a hell of irritation biggrin.gif

cool beam...

at least finally they've figured out that the core in the middle of the carrier can be used for something other than those small fighters

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true but when several high templars comes in and spam hallucination onto the carriers and cast those lightnings (forgot the name)

it becomes a hell of irritation  biggrin.gif

cool beam...

at least finally they've figured out that the core in the middle of the carrier can be used for something other than those small fighters
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Protoss evolve and think slowly since they live for so long. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Jul 8 2009, 08:26 PM)
Even against less microed zergs....Scourges can just flood in and blow up the Carrier.

With the Queen's Ensnare, Carrier is nothing more than a minor irritation
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not if you guard the carriers with corsairs.
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delay again......2010
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QUOTE(loufu @ Jul 12 2009, 11:07 AM)
not if you guard the carriers with corsairs.
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Carriers are easily overwhelm when its alone, but with corsairs and scout and arbiter, it packs serious punch.
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QUOTE(chickenducksoup @ Jul 12 2009, 12:02 PM)
Not surprised at all.
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QUOTE(chickenducksoup @ Jul 12 2009, 12:02 PM)
Thats analyst not official blizzard notice so don't snuff your hope yet
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does any one know how to get starcraft 2 beta ? i know beta is not ready yet . i heard need some battlenet 2.0 username like that , can any one guide me ?

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QUOTE(likito @ Jul 13 2009, 05:57 PM)
does any one know how to get starcraft 2 beta ? i know beta is not ready yet . i heard need some battlenet 2.0 username like that , can any one guide me ?
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1st..u nid get 1 of original blizzard game(china n tw WoW r not inculde)
2rd..register 2.0 battle net
3th..insert any1 of your blizzard game CDkey
4th..folo they step,upload your system data..blah blah blah
final..wait they picking,,,,

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For those who did not read the previous thread I post it again once more.

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protoss carriars are good with corsairs when against zerg . no air unit can come near ..hydralisk also die with corrsaors web ..
there's only one solution for the zerg ..
use the defiler and cast plague . this kills off more than 50% hp of the carrier


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QUOTE(TimberWolf @ Jul 14 2009, 01:52 PM)
protoss carriars are good with corsairs when against zerg . no air unit can come near ..hydralisk also die with corrsaors web ..
there's only one solution for the zerg ..
use the defiler and cast plague . this kills off more than 50% hp of the carrier
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hell i hate plague... it is the worse thing you can get at your massive units or structures for protoss

cause protoss units and structures cannot heal.. only their plasma shields do

i used to remember one time playing protoss mission, my hero got plague until emergency life level...

end up i had to restart the entire level cause of that

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QUOTE(Hejime @ Jul 14 2009, 04:15 PM)
hell i hate plague... it is the worse thing you can get at your massive units or structures for protoss

cause protoss units and structures cannot heal.. only their plasma shields do

i used to remember one time playing protoss mission, my hero got plague until emergency life level...

end up i had to restart the entire level cause of that
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Imagine the effect on Terran then.
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jul 14 2009, 05:38 PM)
Imagine the effect on Terran then.
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Nothing but the annoyance to micro medics to restore
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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Jul 14 2009, 07:02 PM)
Nothing but the annoyance to micro medics to restore
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Depends. if the terrans made their base in the classic clump all the supply depot in 1 place.

plague would literally destroy a terran base. =D
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Jul 14 2009, 07:04 PM)
Depends. if the terrans made their base in the classic clump all the supply depot in 1 place.

plague would literally destroy a terran base. =D
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LoL thats noob build.
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jul 14 2009, 05:38 PM)
Imagine the effect on Terran then.
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terrans are still alright

they have medics to heal the infantaries and scv to repair the structures

(provided the scv's reach the structure on time for repairs) tongue.gif

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plague wont kill it rite? jz reduce til 1 hp
oh wait, structure burn itself to the ground..lol

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plague wont kill it rite? jz reduce til 1 hp
oh wait, structure burn itself to the ground..lol
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In theory, plague would do wonders in destroying terran buildings, but practically, you rarely get the opportunity to do so. At mid game before you get defilers, zerg is pretty weak against a mid game terran army as mass medic and marines or mass Goliaths would chew away you unless you can hold your base before your defilers come out. When defilers come out, players should be about finishing the consume research, which is crucial as dark swarm is drastically needed to counter and defend against terran tech. Later parts of the game for zerg vs terran solely depends on the player expanding properly and dark swarming properly. As almost all of terran units are ranged, dark swarm practically makes terran units useless under the swarm. Not to say that plague is useless, but progamers rarely use it on buildings as defilers are always in the battlefield throwing out dark swarms and plagues on enemy units.
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QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Jul 15 2009, 02:14 PM)
In theory, plague would do wonders in destroying terran buildings, but practically, you rarely get the opportunity to do so. At mid game before you get defilers, zerg is pretty weak against a mid game terran army as mass medic and marines or mass Goliaths would chew away you unless you can hold your base before your defilers come out. When defilers come out, players should be about finishing the consume research, which is crucial as dark swarm is drastically needed to counter and defend against terran tech. Later parts of the game for zerg vs terran solely depends on the player expanding properly and dark swarming properly. As almost all of terran units are ranged, dark swarm practically makes terran units useless under the swarm. Not to say that plague is useless, but progamers rarely use it on buildings as defilers are always in the battlefield throwing out dark swarms and plagues on enemy units.
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Defiler's plague reduces 3hp per second until a maximum of 300hp. If a unit/building has less than 300hp the damage will stop just before it dies. Plague is most used in vs Terran match-ups when a plague and a dark swarm on a group of marine & medics followed up with a zergling surround is deadly.

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yea..most of us already know that and now waiting for starcraft 2
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Exhibition games were played on eStars Seoul 2009 today.

WhO vs Shy
Part 1

Part 2


The highlight of the matches was between Nada and Moon(from Warcraft 3) but no videos are available yet.
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Do u guys think HD4570 can play this game at high details?

Btw, David Kim is an excellent player
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spotted steelseries mousepad with starcraft II kerrigan and zeratul ( i think ) on it. looks tempting. the sales person said its not for sale and its a pre released.

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Do u guys think HD4570 can play this game at high details?

Btw, David Kim is an excellent player
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No one knows for sure,but it should at least run the game smoothly.
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looks nice... i'll definitely get it when it's fully available
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QUOTE(Hejime @ Aug 4 2009, 04:53 PM)
looks nice... i'll definitely get it when it's fully available
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When it's done™

Sorry, it was easy tongue.gif
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i did google up for answer...it saids end of this year
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i did google up for answer...it saids end of this year
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Yeah,thats what every gaming sites and online stores say.

If they dont release the Beta on the next 3 months,forget about end of the year release then.


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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 4 2009, 05:51 PM)
Yeah,thats what every gaming sites and online stores say.

If they dont release the Beta on the next 3 months,forget about end of the year release then.
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I think its almost written out loud that SC2 will be delayed till next year. They mentioned that SC2 beta will be out this summer and summer ends tomorrow or Aug 8 if you go by chinese solar term. They would never finish beta testing in 4 months time. My prediction is CNY. Since its always 6 months beta testing. We'll see if they release beta during blizzcon which is August 21 and 22.
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blizzard you suck, you delay ma freaking game lolx tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 5 2009, 12:39 AM)
I think its almost written out loud that SC2 will be delayed till next year. They mentioned that SC2 beta will be out this summer and summer ends tomorrow or Aug 8 if you go by chinese solar term. They would never finish beta testing in 4 months time. My prediction is CNY. Since its always 6 months beta testing. We'll see if they release beta during blizzcon which is August 21 and 22.
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Technically for american, "Summer" last until 21st of September tongue.gif

Just saying, I do kinda agree it has high chance to be delayed
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Aug 5 2009, 10:06 AM)
Technically for american, "Summer" last until 21st of September  tongue.gif

Just saying, I do kinda agree it has high chance to be delayed
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Wow still 50 more days to go lets see if they can make it in time. Lets look out for blizzcon 09 first.
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QUOTE(Cydra @ Aug 5 2009, 01:17 PM)
Today we announced that StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty will not be ready for release by the end of 2009. Over the past couple of weeks, it has become clear that it will take longer than expected to prepare the new Battle.net for the launch of the game. The upgraded Battle.net is an integral part of the StarCraft II experience and will be an essential part of all of our games moving forward. This extra development time will be critical to help us realize our vision for the service.

Our mission is to develop games that deliver an epic entertainment experience. As part of that commitment, we will always take as much time as needed to ensure that our games and services meet the expectations of our players and the standard for quality that we set for ourselves as developers. As we work to make Battle.net the premier online gaming destination, we’ll also continue to polish and refine StarCraft II, and we look forward to delivering a real-time strategy gaming experience worthy of the series’ legacy in the first half of 2010.

We will share more details about the beta, Battle.net, and StarCraft II’s launch in the future. Keep an eye on the official website at http://www.starcraft2.com for updates, and as always, thank you for your continued enthusiasm and support for StarCraft II and all of Blizzard Entertainment’s games.
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QUOTE(talexeh @ Aug 6 2009, 07:58 AM)
Sorry to break you guys' heart. sad.gif
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I'm not surprised. Kinda expecting that actually.
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as long as it is blizzard. i can wait.
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post Aug 6 2009, 10:20 AM

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Yar, no heart broken here either, I was pretty much sure they wouldnt be ready and I am not waiting for the game so much to go emo-fit for a delay.

Make it a good, non buggy game and I am okey to wait
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Aug 6 2009, 08:38 AM)
I'm not surprised. Kinda expecting that actually.
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However I would be suprised if they delay the beta till next year that is really some big BIG BIG delay for them if they do that.

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for me just too long since it announced 07
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 6 2009, 10:38 AM)
However I would be suprised if they delay the beta till next year that is really some big BIG BIG delay for them if they do that.
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They now talking about "First half 2010" so we really have time for the Beta, first half could be June, I do not see them starting a Beta soon for a game coming up so far now.

But the Beta could give us some good indication on their planned release date anyway, if they do it in coming few months, we could see a release 1st quarter of 2010, if later, means most probably 2nd quarter at best
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If SC2 due to next year, I dunno when Diablo 3 will be release....maybe next 2 years?
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Aug 6 2009, 11:28 AM)
They now talking about "First half 2010" so we really have time for the Beta, first half could be June, I do not see them starting a Beta soon for a game coming up so far now.

But the Beta could give us some good indication on their planned release date anyway, if they do it in coming few months, we could see a release 1st quarter of 2010, if later, means most probably 2nd quarter at best
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I do hope they do a 6 months beta testing.

QUOTE(pikacu @ Aug 6 2009, 11:35 AM)
If SC2 due to next year, I dunno when Diablo 3 will be release....maybe next 2 years?
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 6 2009, 12:09 PM)
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Ha ha ha ha ha rclxms.gif

As long as they do not pull out a Duke Nukem Forever crap, I dun mind waiting.

And seriously, it's Blizzard, I can't remember them ever finishing a game without few pushing back of dates before. People who are surprised must not know their records much

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In the long battle between Blizzard's standards and the calendar year, the calendar again came out the loser today with the announcement that the studio's anticipated RTS sequel StarCraft II has been delayed into the first half of 2010.

Blizzard attributed the delay to needing additional time to produce the new version of Battle.net, its online gaming service. Though few details are available on the new portal, Activision CEO Bobby Kotick likened it to Xbox Live in its combination of gameplay and social networking features.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/59856

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Despite the delay of StarCraft II into 2010, Blizzard says the release of Diablo III will not be affected by the shift.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/59859

tl:dr its done when its done.
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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Aug 6 2009, 01:04 PM)
Yeah rite diablo 3 will not be push back anyone willing to bet 1k USD with me?
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Yeah rite diablo 3 will not be push back anyone willing to bet 1k USD with me?
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lol no thx, i'm 100% sure i will lose that 1k.
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Bliz is always Bliz.

Look at the bright side, at least they don't announce it on 31st Dec 2009 that SC2 won't be available for the year 2009.

Anyway, a bad news is a bad news.

Try L4D and anticipate for L4D2 this november instead.
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Not surprised at all.

It's not even ready yet.
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hmm...is D3 and SC2 teams the same? if so, will need to wait soooooooooooo long for D3. =/
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starcraft 2 and diablo 3 on the same year??....OMFG!!!....
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QUOTE(Milky b0Y @ Aug 7 2009, 02:12 AM)
starcraft 2 and diablo 3 on the same year??....OMFG!!!....
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StarCraft II Poker Set: Available At Blizzon 2009

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Play like the marines and bet it all! Exclusively available at BlizzCon, this terran-themed StarCraft II poker set includes everything you need to start your very own interstellar poker night, including four sets of Vegas-style poker chips, two decks of cards, and a handy case to keep everything together. Each playing card features a unique design by artists from Blizzard Entertainment’s cinematics department—and it’s the closest you’ll get to a wild night in a Mar Sara saloon.

This set was designed to be a “field issue” poker set. The designers imagined what a set of cards would look like after having been played for a period of time and what they would do to the cards. The result are these unique cards scarred by countless battles on the Terran front.

Each case contains 98 chips, 2 decks of cards, and 5 dice.

Interested in getting one? Perhaps it's a good idea to bulk it & gain some vespene gas in return? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 7 2009, 06:05 AM)
YEah sweet dreams baby.
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SC2 could be this year if not for the battlenet crap...
those who played WoW would know wut blizzard did in order for us to register to their battlenet sleep.gif
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Wait, where did Blizzard confirmed D3 (or even SC2) will be out in 2010? biggrin.gif
Way too early to say D3 or SC2 will be out in same year

Imo, there are high chances they will be, but again it's Blizzard, I really do not take anything for granted.

They are among the very very few companies that can say "Lol, suck it" to fans going apeshit about release dates and push back of it.

They get away with it because they do deliver when it comes out and because they do make some good games.

It's really gonna be out when they say so, predicting release dates before Blizzard say a fix date is like predicting the weather 6 months in advance imo...

Wait & See smile.gif
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gamespy has it. the delay in SC2 has no impact on the D3. LOL...so i was wondering if there're two teams on this.

push back is good rather than left us out on the PC *cough* MW2...laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Aug 7 2009, 09:21 PM)
Wait, where did Blizzard confirmed D3 (or even SC2) will be out in 2010?  biggrin.gif
Way too early to say D3 or SC2 will be out in same year

Imo, there are high chances they will be, but again it's Blizzard, I really do not take anything for granted.

They are among the very very few companies that can say "Lol, suck it" to fans going apeshit about release dates and push back of it.

They get away with it because they do deliver when it comes out and because they do make some good games.

It's really gonna be out when they say so, predicting release dates before Blizzard say a fix date is like predicting the weather 6 months in advance imo...

Wait & See  smile.gif
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as far as i know, blizzard has only announce SC2 to be in 2010 due to battlenet development for the game...
in other words, the game is close ready but the battlenet issues is the one slowing it down...
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hmm gamespot put quarter 2 in 2010 as release date
haha

sigh
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 7 2009, 10:14 PM)
as far as i know, blizzard has only announce SC2 to be in 2010 due to battlenet development for the game...
in other words, the game is close ready but the battlenet issues is the one slowing it down...
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I think the campaign is another issue too that is stopping SC2 from releasing early.
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Who knows what those lazy asses are doing they can blame it on anything. Lets just see when the beta comes out b4 we even think of the full release.

Out in 2010 could be 31st dec of 2010 for blizzard.

Close to ready still means that that have to settle beta 1st, and since beta hasn't even been announced means that they just have unfinished work.
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 8 2009, 12:50 PM)
Who knows what those lazy asses are doing they can blame it on anything. Lets just see when the beta comes out b4 we even think of the full release.

Out in 2010 could be 31st dec of 2010 for blizzard.

Close to ready still means that that have to settle beta 1st, and since beta hasn't even been announced means that they just have unfinished work.
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What i know is MP is really close to completion now.

The campaign and Battlenet 2.0 is still half way.

I rather see a complete game than a half assed one with loads of problems.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 8 2009, 01:04 PM)
What i know is MP is really close to completion now.

The campaign and Battlenet 2.0 is still half way.

I rather see a complete game than a half assed one with loads of problems.
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agree i would rather get a good game rather than game tat are rushed for the fanboys to play wit...
jz hope taht the other 2 SC2 expansions would be fast after the first one =p
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 8 2009, 02:08 PM)
agree i would rather get a good game rather than game tat are rushed for the fanboys to play wit...
jz hope taht the other 2 SC2 expansions would be fast after the first one =p
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I think it's gonna be more or less as long as each Half Life 2 Episodes take to come out. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 8 2009, 02:09 PM)
I think it's gonna be more or less as long as each Half Life 2 Episodes take to come out. sweat.gif
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knowing blizzard u cant really say...
the recent patch 3.2 from WoW was unexpectedly quick...
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 8 2009, 01:04 PM)
What i know is MP is really close to completion now.

The campaign and Battlenet 2.0 is still half way.

I rather see a complete game than a half assed one with loads of problems.
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But WOW can have a new expansion every year.. while SC2 is taking so SLOOWWW to build..

So are we implying that WOW expan are flawed like shit cos they make a expan every year or Blizzard just lazy on SC..
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Aug 8 2009, 02:16 PM)
But WOW can have a new expansion every year.. while SC2 is taking so SLOOWWW to build..

So are we implying that WOW expan are flawed like shit cos they make a expan every year or Blizzard just lazy on SC..
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I think they just want to be extremely careful on SC2 so that they dont piss off their Koreans friends.

It still makes me wonder why it takes so long.Are they still unhappy with it?

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 8 2009, 02:37 PM)
I think they just want to be extremely careful on SC2 so that they dont piss off their Koreans friends.

It still makes me wonder why it takes so long.Are they still unhappy with it?
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Battle.Net is no where near done. They are still looking for web designers and even lead designer for it.

WoW expansions are based on an existing game where the engine and everything is done. A better comparison would be Warcraft 3.
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QUOTE(frags @ Aug 8 2009, 02:43 PM)
Battle.Net is no where near done. They are still looking for web designers and even lead designer for it.

WoW expansions are based on an existing game where the engine and everything is done. A better comparison would be Warcraft 3.
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Yeah,you got a point.

They just started Battlenet,though.

I think thats the major reason why they delay it so long as there are quite a lot of things to implement.


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Yar, I feel SC2 is the "big" thing that is coming out for Blizz right now, and they definitely dun want to come out with a crap, they know really lots of people are waiting on it and will be very very pissed off if they come out with a bad game or half assed one, including solo campaign.

WoW is their milk cow, they keep it around to make lots of benefice and fund their others projects (I have nothing against WoW, I played more than 3 years so it's not blind criticism), xpacs are not that bad to come out tbh, they have the mechanisms perfectly tuned down now (do not stand in Fire/Ice/Lightning/Poison/Little Ponies etc.). Northend has more or less a complete design already so it's copy paste and reskinning.
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SC2 is a new game.

WOW is already there, they are just adding additional stuff. unless there're graphical, technical or gameplay total breakthrough.
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Aug 8 2009, 03:02 PM)
SC2 is a new game.

WOW is already there, they are just adding additional stuff. unless there're graphical, technical or gameplay total breakthrough.
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Unlike other studios.. Where they usually pressure to complete games with the mimimu, set of time so they can make money.

Blizzard have no incentive to do so.. As WOW is generating income daily so by giving WOW fans something to look foward to every year will keep the subcribers alive.

SC2 is just an icing of the cake.. So thats why they are taking their goddamm sweet time on it.. So they use all this tech trees and poker game set to keep the hype running..
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My wild guess:-

SC2 release 2010.9

DB3 2012 ??!!
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QUOTE(CityLife @ Aug 8 2009, 10:47 PM)
My wild guess:-

  SC2 release 2010.9

  DB3 2012 ??!!
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How is Dragon Ball 3 related to Supreme commander 2 release in 2010.9??
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DB was already a disaster

DB3 = 2012 = Judgement Day
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 9 2009, 01:37 AM)
How is Dragon Ball 3 related to Supreme commander 2 release in 2010.9??
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ROFL Diablo 3 lah
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 9 2009, 12:37 AM)
How is Dragon Ball 3 related to Supreme commander 2 release in 2010.9??
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He's still in denial state.
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 9 2009, 12:37 AM)
How is Dragon Ball 3 related to Supreme commander 2 release in 2010.9??
you got 2 games wrong there, no?

i think you miss our weekly fix for Supreme Commander la. biggrin.gif
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Its confirm.. SC2 will not be on 2009.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/08/star...elayed-to-2010/
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Aug 10 2009, 12:13 PM)
Wow I didn know that thankyou for the news. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Aug 8 2009, 05:05 PM)
Unlike other studios.. Where they usually pressure to complete games with the mimimu, set of time so they can make money.

Blizzard have no incentive to do so.. As WOW is generating income daily so by giving WOW fans something to look foward to every year will keep the subcribers alive.

SC2 is just an icing of the cake.. So thats why they are taking their goddamm sweet time on it..  So they use all this tech trees and poker game set to keep the hype running..
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i'm sure blizz has pressure to complete sc2. you know, makes me think the ACTUAL release date is kept hidden from public, so its like they release fake release dates to the public only to delay them etc. untill the actual release date! sounds logical innit? so that way they look like they're polishing the game like it aint polished b4.
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Oh hey guys is it out yet?
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ya its already out
i m enjoying it so much man...
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QUOTE(nanogen @ Aug 10 2009, 10:54 PM)
ya its already out
i m enjoying it so much man...
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r u sure ? blizzard had made announced that sc2 will release early 2009 due to battle net 2.0 issue .
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r u sure ? blizzard had made announced that sc2 will release early 2009 due to battle net 2.0 issue .
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no man i just got the collecters edition today
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QUOTE(likito @ Aug 11 2009, 12:14 AM)
r u sure ? blizzard had made announced that sc2 will release early 2009 due to battle net 2.0 issue .
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Nah dude, I'm already halfway through the campaign
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Cant wait for it. rclxm9.gif
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Nah dude, I'm already halfway through the campaign
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Wow have you gotten to the part where jimmy is making out with the queen of tsundere blades? drool.gif

I lulz bad at that cinematrix, got me fapin' too. blush.gif @.@
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 11 2009, 04:53 PM)
Wow have you gotten to the part where jimmy is making out with the queen of tsundere blades?  drool.gif

I lulz bad at that cinematrix, got me fapin' too.  blush.gif @.@
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Yeah...kinda reminds me of tentacle ****

But anyways...jom Melee
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 11 2009, 03:53 PM)
Wow have you gotten to the part where jimmy is making out with the queen of tsundere blades?  drool.gif

I lulz bad at that cinematrix, got me fapin' too.  blush.gif @.@
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Which mission is that?

drool.gif
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Aug 11 2009, 03:56 PM)
Yeah...kinda reminds me of tentacle ****

But anyways...jom Melee
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 11 2009, 03:57 PM)
Which mission is that?

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Its something like that special mission in broodwar where you have to finish that mission in less than 60 seconds.
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 11 2009, 04:02 PM)
Its something like that special mission in broodwar  where you have to finish that mission in less than 60 seconds.
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Oh shit,i better achieve that when i finish downloading mine.
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Oh shit,i better achieve that when i finish downloading mine.
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I've been playing this game for 120 hours since Ive downloaded it damn I miss my sleep.
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I've been playing this game for 120 hours since Ive downloaded it damn I miss my sleep.
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Dont be a SC2-tards.


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can't wait for the sc2, good things are worth to wait ... hope 2010 can lay my hand on it tongue.gif
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'sup guise

i'm already playing SC2 version of you-know-what

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i can see everyone is already playing SxxCraft 2

plz tell me where can i get them

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i can see everyone is already playing SxxCraft 2

plz tell me where can i get them
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I got mine at my friendly steam rolleyes.gif u can try it there.
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Just finished the campaign....nice cliffhanger there...waiting for the Zerg Campaign to come out.

PS. nice melee last night
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currently downloading Sxxcraft2 iso

where to registerrr??????
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Haha... im sure most of the people who read this thread will start to search Starcraft 2 downloads in Google... HAHAHA =) ownage
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We interrupt your daily dose of dumbass trolling to bring you a report straight from the Hive Cluster of Char

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Glynnis Talken Campbell, the original voice of StarCraft's Sarah Kerrigan, Queen of the Blades, lent her famous pipes for the StarCraft II reveal trailer at BlizzCon 2008, but ultimately the actress will not be voicing the villain for the game.

According to Campbell, the voice work done in that trailer was considered an audition for the role, and Blizzard has decided to go in another direction.

Voice actress Karen Strassman has updated her resume and added "StarCraft II - Lead" to it. More importantly, the end of her voice clip reel has this moody line: "For I am Kerrigan, Queen of Blades". Listen to the clip here.

We are contacting Blizzard and will update if we get confirmation.


Looks like we having a new VA for Kerrigan
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Eh,whos up for a game tonight?
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Jom skrang.

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Gonna try fast Hellion today.
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Hey you guys send me the replay would ya I still cant join u all for melee yet still faping to that make out scene with kerigan and jimmy. blush.gif
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It's not funny anymore Harley.
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shit totally forgot about this game. issit out yet?>
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QUOTE(selenium @ Aug 13 2009, 10:01 PM)
shit totally forgot about this game. issit out yet?>
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Relax guyz.. i know its hard for u all to accept the truth lolz
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hmmm aren't they launching the zerg campaign next month? I am half way through already..
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 11 2009, 04:34 PM)
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Karune, our favorite Blizzard RTS community manager, has returned to answer a few questions before BlizzCon:

First, he discusses BlizzCon itself:

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There will be beta key opportunities surrounding BlizzCon as well. More info will revealed in time smile.gif


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  There will be lots of ways to get information, including the fan sites as well. In addition to that, I hear Twitter isn't to shabby of a way to getting info too wink.gif


The Protoss Zealot has received an art upgrade:

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As a FYI, several units got updates to their art, including the Zealot, which looks even more impressive than before. Keep an eye out at BlizzCon for all this new art smile.gif


Dustin Browder will be at the BlizzCon signing booths:

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You'll probably be able to find him at the signing booths- make sure you check when which devs will be there.


StarCraft II's Galaxy Map Editor (renamed from SCUMedit), will be able to create third-person games:

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On a side note, going along with the Galaxy Map Editor can do anything trend, I hear it may even be able to create a first person shooter style custom game smile.gif Anyone miss those StarCraft paintball games? Our devs internally have already tried out some pretty clever side projects that have been quite successful.
    --
Correction, I meant third-person, but honestly the only difference is where the player camera angle is put.


http://sclegacy.com/news/23-sc2/471-karune-is-back

I like the third person view for SCUMedit. biggrin.gif

Hope they have first person too.

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Demm you guy already play online? I need finish my protoss campaign 1st!! WTF

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-.-"u guys damn seinz...will u guys stop it>?
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-.-"u guys damn seinz...will u guys stop it>?
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When retards stop asking when is it out or is it out already, then we will stop it.

Till the.....we shall keep trollin' trollin' trollin' trollin' (whut!)
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Maybe they should close the thread 1st
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Aug 16 2009, 11:26 AM)
When retards stop asking when is it out or is it out already, then we will stop it.

Till the.....we shall keep trollin' trollin' trollin' trollin' (whut!)
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No doubt it's true.

Cant those people read the title? I did say" When it's done" under the thread tittle and on the first post.

QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 16 2009, 11:31 AM)
Maybe they should close the thread 1st
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Thats one vote of closing down the thread.

I wont mind actually and i do want to close it down at least till Blizzcon.

If 3 more forumers agree with closing down the thread,i'll close it,as there is no proper discussion for now.

Any new info just PM me so that i could open it for a while.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 16 2009, 11:39 AM)
No doubt it's true.

Cant those people read the title? I did say" When it's done" under the thread tittle and on the first post.
Thats one vote of closing down the thread.
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Instead of "when it's done" I would put a "IT IS NOT OUT BEFORE 2010, DO NOT ASK" but well, that's just me
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Aug 16 2009, 12:00 PM)
Instead of "when it's done" I would put a "IT IS NOT OUT BEFORE 2010, DO NOT ASK" but well, that's just me
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Done.

Im sick of people asking the release date question for the nth time. yawn.gif
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so when would they release the game?
nov or dec?

ngiahahahahah
i just hope it will be Q1 2010, but knowing bliz.. it would probably be Q4 2010
btw, need moar battle reports!

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IINM the game has been delayed and expected to release on H1 2010 smile.gif
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Yea,keep asking about the release date. doh.gif

No one,other than Blizzard themselves know
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I think Blizzard also not sure when they want to release it laugh.gif
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close this thread until 2010 la.... it ain't coming out!!!


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Blizzcon is coming soon,which means it's gonna have lots of information coming out.

More or less a week's time left.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 16 2009, 02:37 PM)
Blizzcon is coming soon,which means it's gonna have lots of information coming out.

More or less a week's time left.
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..... and if they only talk about WoW and dont answer Qs about Starcraft how doh.gif
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..... and if they only talk about WoW and dont answer Qs about  Starcraft how doh.gif
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Probably have at least something for SC2.

If not,the fans will find something for us.
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Yar, I do think we going to hear "something" about SC2 at Blizzcon, at least some screenshot or trailer on the current status of the game etc. I would be very surprised if they don't, it's their own special convention and it's far from being small.
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Aug 16 2009, 04:29 PM)
Yar, I do think we going to hear "something" about SC2 at Blizzcon, at least some screenshot or trailer on the current status of the game etc. I would be very surprised if they don't, it's their own special convention and it's far from being small.
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Not to mention Diablo 3 and their new also. If they do not talk bout these things then bizzcon will have nothing to show.
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Even if they have nothing to show,they would still have rigs there with SC2 for people to play.

We'll definitely get something from them.
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Aug 16 2009, 01:28 PM)
IINM the game has been delayed and expected to release on H1 2010 smile.gif
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 16 2009, 01:33 PM)
Yea,keep asking about the release date. doh.gif

No one,other than Blizzard themselves know
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i think they don't even know yet when it would be released
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Hey guys wats zappening

So heres the question
Bila?
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Hey guys wats zappening

So heres the question
Bila?
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Yeah,thanks for trolling.

kthxbai.
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Hey guys wats zappening

So heres the question
Bila?
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.......

if you're not trolling then at least read the thread title doh.gif


QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 17 2009, 02:50 PM)
kthxbai.
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First StarCraft II Single Player Campaign Hands On Preview
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The graphics is so good. drool.gif


Added on August 17, 2009, 4:00 pmThe campaign seems damn good to me now.

Looking forward to SC2 even more now.

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So happened I was browsing some other forums and came across on this

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August 14th - 24th SC2 Beta Key Sweepstakes! GET IN BEFORE THE DEADLINE PASSES
All you have to do is sign up for twitter (yea gently caress that poo poo) and follow the starcraft feed at http://www.twitter.com/starcraft
http://www.blizzard.com/us/misc/contests/twitter/sc2.htmll

Is this legit?

Seriously troll-fu is off

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wow... very interesting indeed

and one fact i like about the AI is,

the computer enemies would have to scout the map to look for player

instead of from the beginning itself already know where is the player

i wonder how big would be the size of WoL... or maybe even all the 3 expansions

i LOL-ed at this... recycling is guud thumbup.gif

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IGN also has a write up on SP:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/101/1014331p1.html

Also with a nice video preview of the Single Player portion:
http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/850126/starc...vdp_081309.html
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Ampun tuankku

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QUOTE(frags @ Aug 17 2009, 04:25 PM)
IGN also has a write up on SP:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/101/1014331p1.html

Also with a nice video preview of the Single Player portion:
http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/850126/starc...vdp_081309.html
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Sounds very sweet indeed for SP content!

Looks like they are really polishing their babies
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More SP footage:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/blizzcon...rcraft-ii/54291
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Somehow I got the shiver while looking at the news of old units only appearing in Single player campaign.

WHICH MEAN A STARCRAFT BASED D.O.T.A IS INEVITABLE! o-o
Holy shit! O-o
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^ smile.gif

but holy freakin' shit the single player campaigns..just as i expected from Blizzard
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with that kind of gameplay.. i dont mind waiting till next year laugh.gif
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Looks good to me,IMO.

There are some parts that are a bit unpolished or cheap.

WTF is with the giant Zealots? doh.gif
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 18 2009, 12:06 PM)
Looks good to me,IMO.

There are some parts that are a bit unpolished or cheap.

WTF is with the giant Zealots? doh.gif
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with laser ray shooting from it's eyes~
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QUOTE(JuzJoe @ Aug 18 2009, 12:16 PM)
with laser ray shooting from it's eyes~
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It seems like a different animation from Colossus's animation.

The giant zealot looks damn weird la. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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If you take some time to watch and think carefully, those are protoss statues in the shape of zealots(due to protoss value the way of the warrior etc), probably an automated defense system for the artifact, uh so where is the weird part?
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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Aug 17 2009, 04:11 PM)
So happened I was browsing some other forums and came across on this
Is this legit?

Seriously troll-fu is off
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doh.gif again its only for people living in that stupid northern continent damn it. vmad.gif

QUOTE(zioburosky13 @ Aug 17 2009, 11:31 PM)
Somehow I got the shiver while looking at the news of old units only appearing in Single player campaign.

WHICH MEAN A STARCRAFT BASED D.O.T.A IS INEVITABLE! o-o
Holy shit! O-o
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Im not worried bout it since they already have Dota 2 what ever its called.
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QUOTE(heaven @ Aug 18 2009, 12:58 PM)
If you take some time to watch and think carefully, those are protoss statues in the shape of zealots(due to protoss value the way of the warrior etc), probably an automated defense system for the artifact, uh so where is the weird part?
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They are statues of probably ancient Protoss warriors,but it just look too WoW to me.

Not a big deal anyway,since they arent in MP.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 18 2009, 03:04 PM)
They are statues of probably ancient Protoss warriors,but it just look too WoW to me.

Not a big deal anyway,since they arent in MP.
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Actually, if those 4 zealots thump them, all of the terran will die.
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Newsflash: Blizzard says LAN gaming is like dinosaur fossil now

Hey Blizzard, not everyone owns a stable and big fat bandwidth internet connection. No body wants to login to an online app. just to play a LAN game. And not everyone gives a shit about your e-penis I mean in-game achievements.

Blizzard is losing itself in the sea of money.

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