Boss, sure? Special price for you since I only want both fo you succumb to 'BD Poison'

You can get BDs for a song from mpyw, megatron007 and arj.


Is it?

Then can bring over to my home to test water on my PC-12Plus on this weekend? You come lah




No. unless the vibration is too strong that it will affects Yammy SQ. Although subwoofer is omnidirectional, it is still have palcement (That's why subwoofer crawl is IMPORTANT) By changing the placement, it will make a difference. This is where 'phase' setting comes in.


Bro, as I told you earlier that it could be a null area at your listening area

Copied from audioholics.com :

The Tech Talk
All subwoofers produce acoustical pressure, and that is what your ear responds to. The only place where you will hear the bass output that your subwoofer produces exclusively is out of doors (or in an anechoic chamber). But soon as you put a subwoofer into a room, the sound waves bounce back and forth between the parallel surfaces of the room, some combining or "adding," which will emphasize those sounds, and others canceling each other out, which results in a null. If you are sitting in a null, you won't hear any deep bass at all. Conversely, if your chair is in a location where standing waves peak, you will likely hear boomy, one-note bass (you won't be able to follow the tuneful bass line of a recording, for example). Sometimes, by just moving a foot or two, the deep bass will "magically" reappear.

For more details : http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/speaker-...ment-guidelines

I do hope that I can find time to go over your place. But this weekend, I can't. Father's Day. It will be bloody jam on my way back.






This post has been edited by htkaki: Jun 17 2009, 08:44 AM

not sure yet to get bd60 or ps3 or 6500. anyway pm me la ur special price

Done

Btw, any updates on this :

The L.Y.N. SVS Subwoofer MO club (if Jadi)

PC12-Plus
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1) htkaki (already arrived)
2)
3)

PB12-Plus
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1) easternred
2) robinlim (yet to finalise)

PC12-NSD
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1)jwyj (self order)
2)lightning69 (self order?)
3)

PB12-NSD
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1) lexonline
2)

AS-EQ1
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1) Jack28HT
2)

PC13-Ultra
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1) mys_terious
2) Jack28HT (depends on cost)
3) htkaki

SB-12 Plus
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1) chinmh

Interesting description of the bass from the PB10. Doesn't sound like what is expected. Perhaps as htkaki said you are in a null.

Easiest way to test is for you to move around (keep PB10 in same place), example 1-3' forward or left/right from your normal listening position. If the bass gets better/stronger that means your normal position is likely a null (then solution is to move your PB10 around). If there is no change when u move around, then it's your PB10.

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Added on June 17, 2009, 11:18 amFor me, only reason to get PS3 as compared to standalone player is to play games. If you don't play games then standalone player (a good one) is probably better.

This post has been edited by jchong: Jun 17 2009, 11:18 AM

Agreed, PS3 is quite noisy and is a power guzzler due to its high processing power. A standalone would be sufficient plus it has the ability to bitstream.

With all the bass and high end HT stuffs most lyn forumers have, I doubt anyone can hear the PS3 fan!

yup getting ps3 to play games la. watching bd not priority. i dont hv any bd anyway

It seems that you have few things lining up in your shopping list already.

Hi,

Could it be .. all along u were really enjoyin "boom" instead of real bass? Sorry.. but sum ppl equate boom to real bass when actual circa 20hz signals are really movin air only n is sub sonic or in other words we humans cant really hear it.. I hv a solution for u if tis is de case.. use a y-plug n go twin sub wif ur velo.. as then u would get de 20-35hz signals from ur velo(apprntly tats wat de velo is gud for..) n still get de tru bass fr ur SvS.. try it.

I dunt tink facin ur sub to de amp would be a prblm unless ur avr is on an unstable platform which can cause it to vibrate durin heavy bass scenes.. if tats de case then move it to de floor.


Haha.. I attribute de most wanted feature in HD to vdo.. true 1080p pics are gorgeous compared to even a gud upscaled 480p pics( I know cos I hv a oppo 981hd - one of a highly acclaimed sd upcaler n a ps3).. On odo, a gud plain dd or dts is still gud n lossless odo is jus icin to d cake - even b4 hd , de LOTR EE tracks or movies like Titan AE, U571, War of the world all had great odo n tats plain dd/dts .. no one was complainin then.. Kekeke

Jus my 2cts
Dirtrun

cancel mine as i've ordered direct, its the pc12+

Haha,

Cant wait liao..

hello all sifu, i am a beginner in home entertainment. i am abt. to set up my av room with husband. The room size 12' x 22' x 10' with plaster ceiling.I and my husband have been following or reading the forum for quite sometimes. My intention setup consists Pioneer amp, Pioneer bluray player,pioneer 60" plasma tv. Speaker will be either B & W or others american speaker with velo or rel or b & W as subwoofer. We will most likely to choose rel or b&W as subwoofer. I need info about subwoofer as i audition rel subwoofer at CMY outlet, seem to be very good and solid. According to CMY for a good subwoofer they specify you don,t need to go so low on frequency. At abt. 20-25 hz is the most suitable range, below that you will not feel the oomph much or rather to low of frequency of 18 and below you will not feel the punchy sound and you feel too hollow. Sure enough they show us the magazine abt. some other more expensive model (JL Audio 22Hz, Velodyne spl 20 hz, earthquake 23hz and most of them in between 20-25hz range) As my husband will most likey to spend most of the times on action movies , so this gentlement from CMY state that too low of freq. of 20 below will most suitable for musical and not suitable for action movies, as he said too low too hollow will it sound and loose all those punchy feeling. So thanks for reading this text and need all the sifu to comment before parting my hard earn money, thanks.

Wow! Elite shopping list! I like Pioneer product but too elite for peasant like me! As for sub as far as I know for movie esp action type go for the sub that dig the lowest! Some for the best sub dig as low as 15hz or even lower. Now for movie esp action type the LFE did go that low or ever lower! Watching good movie not only must heard but also feel as well!
Just my peasant opinion.

Wow you're buying it for your husband. That's nice.
I'm interested in the sifu's opinion on this too.

Hi Madam..

Welcum to de forum..

Might I say tat it is rare for a uhm de fairer sex to hv interest in e-gear.. let alone HT, gud for you..

About CMY's recommendation.. Id only go so far to say tat REL makes great subs but its not de best for HT use, at least not value for money - best la.. n for one rvw tat praises a model, u'd prbbly able to find another rvwer who dont like it.. n if its a magazine backed rvw, then I d take it with a spoonful of salt cos they nid ads to survive .. so..

N ya sub sonics is wat we r talkin here and a musical sub is de one who dont nid to go below 25hz as a musical instrument cant go tat low anyway.. HT on de other hand is a diff story..

Rule of thumbs abt subs is tat normally .. a bigger driver is better than a smaller one .. a bigger amp is better than a smaller one .. a bigger firmer(svs uses 6cm mdf boards for its cabinets) enclosure is better than a smaller thinner one.. a sealed sub should hv better control than a ported one but a ported can go lower .. tis is physics n normally u cant go bendin tis .. thou' compromises can be made like a small driver n a big amp can replicate a sub wif a big driver wif a smaller amp..

Cheers
Dirtrun

This post has been edited by dirtrun: Jun 17 2009, 05:44 PM

hmmm....I tot the lowest note the bass guitar can go is only 40Hz????
lower than that is the requirement for HT use....

60" Pioneer....

callmevil... u r the original poisoner.. posting your ultra bolster!! just that that time nobody dare to take the plunge worrying abt warranty.. even after i have explain how the warranty works.. now suddenly all change their minds:)

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Added on June 17, 2009, 8:41 pmhi there, i am no sifu but just wanna comment on the CMY gentlement's advice.. either he is another typical salesman know nothing abt av but still wann sell av goods or u mixed up.. generally music doesnt need to go so low .. my advice is dont listen to him and go to other shops that let u try between a sub that goes below 20 hz and one dat only goes down to only 25hz .. try it on a few action movie clips.. my bet is u would love the one going below 20hz but if u dont like it then nothing with it.. just get the one u like.. cheerz.. if u like the 1 below 20hz then pls dont go back the cmy clearly the fella wasnt helping u



This post has been edited by mys_terious: Jun 17 2009, 08:41 PM

haha everything is an investment gamble..but amongst all my gambling into sound.. the SVS is one that i can say was my best investment to date.. it has yet to disappoint me.. soo much horse power in reserve just waiting to be tapped.. kinda like naruto and his kyubi.. lol thats it.. im calling my bolster naruto... hahaha

haha yes bro hes a local legend here at our side
its 6 svs n 1 m&k.

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Added on June 17, 2009, 9:25 pmyup bro we r using the Elemental Design Eq2 to help equalise our bass
but i tink so far we r the onli 2 using in Sg right now. The main eq that
most of the ppl use will be the Berinngher Feed Destoryer also known
as BFD DSP1124P which me n the local legend are also using.

we use the bfd to eq our low bass (40hz n below) and the eq2
to eq our mid bass (40hz-80hz)

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Added on June 17, 2009, 9:28 pmhehe tats the spirit bro, beri soon u knoe not enuff 1
i hav 3 subs now a SVS pb12+/2 n Pb13Ultra and a
M&K Mx150. i be gettin my 4th sub tis mth which will
be a SVS PB12 NSD...


This post has been edited by koma: Jun 17 2009, 09:28 PM

Wow, suddenly pop up a new register member which already have 2 SVS sub and looking for another svs sub....