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 The Official Subwoofer Thread v2, Everything you need to know about bass!

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koma
post Jun 17 2009, 09:48 PM

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Hi,

i would recommend u to get the biggest bad ass subwoofer frm SVS u can afford!! tongue.gif
then u wun be tempted to upgrade....

actually no sub is too big for any rm let me explain tis in car terms
1.6L car can go 200km/h but engine super stressed but
a 3.2L can also go 200km/h but engine is barley workin up a sweat tongue.gif

means with bigger sub u will have more "headroom" or CC to play with
n it can go lower therefore the sub will be less stressed n wun be
so proned to bottoming out. Bottoming out means when the sub is
overdriven the woofer itself is workin so hard it actually hits the
basket of the holder for the woofer itself. prolonged usage in these
conditions would be either the woofer die 1st or the amp die off wink.gif

I have 2 svs subs n 1 m&k sub in my rm with a 3rd svs comin
in end of the mth so i can tell u more is gd~~~



QUOTE(caryn_eternal @ Jun 17 2009, 04:23 PM)
hello all sifu, i am a beginner in home entertainment. i am abt. to set up my av room with husband. The room size 12' x 22' x 10' with plaster ceiling.I and my husband have been following or reading the forum for quite sometimes. My intention setup consists Pioneer amp, Pioneer bluray player,pioneer 60" plasma tv. Speaker will be either B & W or others american speaker with velo or rel or b & W as subwoofer. We will most likely to choose rel or b&W as subwoofer. I need info about subwoofer as i audition rel subwoofer at CMY outlet, seem to be very good and solid. According to CMY for a good subwoofer they specify you don,t need to go so low on frequency. At abt. 20-25 hz is the most suitable range, below that you will not feel the oomph much or rather to low of frequency of 18 and below you will not feel the punchy sound and you feel too hollow. Sure enough they show us the magazine abt. some other more expensive model (JL Audio 22Hz, Velodyne spl 20 hz, earthquake 23hz and most of them in between 20-25hz range) As my husband will most likey to spend most of the times on action movies , so this gentlement from CMY state that too low of freq. of 20 below will most suitable for musical and not suitable for action movies, as he said too low too  hollow will it sound and loose all those punchy feeling. So thanks for reading this text and need all the sifu to comment before parting my hard earn money, thanks.
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Added on June 17, 2009, 9:51 pmHi bro,

Im not frm malaysia but frm Sg ur next door neighbour wink.gif
bro dirtrun is my fren frm malaysia n he recommed me to
come here n take a look at the local forums. juz to say 1st
it nice meetin u guys n all sharing a common interest in
SVS subs. hehe not lookin for another is got liao waiting to
collect tis week or next week.... tongue.gif

QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jun 17 2009, 09:41 PM)
Wow, suddenly pop up a new register member which already have 2 SVS sub and looking for another svs sub....  hmm.gif
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This post has been edited by koma: Jun 17 2009, 09:51 PM
ycs
post Jun 17 2009, 10:05 PM

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Hi koma and welcome,

mind sharing some pics of your setup. thumbup.gif
koma
post Jun 17 2009, 10:21 PM

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heres part 1, all the pictures were taken by a Hong Kong
friend when he was here visiting some of our local HT n
audio setups. hehe dun mind if the rm not chio looking ok wink.gif

front view
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front view
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side view
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ceiling view
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ceiling view
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rear ceiling view with projector in the foreground
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This post has been edited by koma: Jun 17 2009, 10:34 PM
callmevil
post Jun 17 2009, 10:31 PM

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hi koma.. can u please help me understand what im looking at? i know what those foams do but... i lost balance on what is what... am i looking at the ceiling or ?
koma
post Jun 17 2009, 10:32 PM

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heres part 2~~

Ceiling view showing the absorbing foams n bass traps
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Another ceiling view showing the absorbing foams n bass traps
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View of all the foams on the side wall
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My surround M&K speaker
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DIY diffusor on rear door
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Another view of DIY diffusor on rear door
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This post has been edited by koma: Jun 17 2009, 10:36 PM
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post Jun 17 2009, 10:35 PM

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i want to say.. 'wth' that last post reminds me of a chapter in the war of the ancients trilogy...
koma
post Jun 17 2009, 10:37 PM

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yah amended the pics with explanations thanks for
the tips bro wink.gif

QUOTE(callmevil @ Jun 17 2009, 10:31 PM)
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hi koma.. can u please help me understand what im looking at? i know what those foams do but... i lost balance on what is what... am i looking at the ceiling or ?
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post Jun 17 2009, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(koma @ Jun 17 2009, 10:21 PM)
heres part 1, all the pictures were taken by a Hong Kong
friend when he was here visiting some of our local HT n
audio setups. hehe dun mind if the rm not chio looking ok wink.gif

front view
user posted image

front view
user posted image

side view
user posted image

ceiling view
user posted image

ceiling view
user posted image

rear ceiling view with projector in the foreground
user posted image
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Some serious a** stuff u have there bro...how big is ur pad? U have a lot of room treatment, was there a reason? Its good to see Asians taking this HT stuff seriously. I thought only Americans were like this.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Jun 17 2009, 10:41 PM
htkaki
post Jun 17 2009, 10:39 PM

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koma, will you be joining the SVS 'show' there? I am going there. Maybe we could meet up?
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post Jun 17 2009, 10:49 PM

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Koma,
Can smoke in your HT room? (sure suffocate eh)
Hehe, your setup is pretty kewl. Who did the acoustics for you.. placements and angle?
Anyway how high is your ceiling? Do you have a drop down on you sitting area.
Did you angle down your room in to a cone narrow front and large back? I noticed that cinemas are not square.

Htkaki,
Perhaps can request for an audition .. then maybe another bolster will be on the left of your room soon ... thumbup.gif
Yah. my sub need to face the wall, no other better direction since position it out. couldn't find a place which can please the walk way.

Dirtrun,
Erm did you post your picture of you setup before? can link me there?

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post Jun 17 2009, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(s6xs9x @ Jun 17 2009, 10:49 PM)
Can smoke in your HT room?
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LOL love this kinda humor..

but koma... just would like to congratulate u on a successful jawdrop moment when i looked at all those fotos.. i am speechless.. part of me just wants to run away from HT all together from the fear of becoming obsessive, while the bigger part of me just wants to invite u over to give me a lesson on audio science.... rclxub.gif
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post Jun 17 2009, 10:58 PM

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the photo look familiar... hmmmm
htkaki
post Jun 17 2009, 11:11 PM

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The L.Y.N. SVS Subwoofer MO club (90% Jadi). Guys, I shall let you all know abt the final price by end of this week or early next week. Please confirm. I need 75% deposit. Balance upon arrival (need to pay tax). Transportation to your doorstep can be arrange for a reasonable fee.

PC12-Plus
------------
1) htkaki (already arrived)
2)
3)

PB12-Plus
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1) robinlim (yet to finalise)
2)

PC12-NSD
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1)jwyj (self order)
2)lightning69 (self order?)
3)

PB12-NSD
------------
1) lexonline
2)

AS-EQ1
---------
1) Jack28HT
2)

PC13-Ultra
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1) mys_terious
2) Jack28HT (depends on cost)
3) htkaki

SB-12 Plus
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1) chinmh
koma
post Jun 17 2009, 11:24 PM

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yah sure but i dun knoe the show details yet.
like isit walk in or by invitation onli


QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 17 2009, 10:39 PM)
koma, will you be joining the SVS 'show' there? I am going there. Maybe we could meet up?
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Added on June 17, 2009, 11:27 pmhaha i do smoke but not inside the rm tongue.gif
thanks for the comments. i did the acoustics
myself with the materials frm my friend who is
supplying these foam as a sideline.
placements n angles i do by trial n error method
cause im not a acoustic expert so gotta try the
hard way tongue.gif my ceiling is bout 3.4m high n what u
do u mean by drop down?
mine is a normal rectangular shape hdm rm in Sg.

hehe yah htkaki when u r here maybe can come my place
n we share some tips. btw u be here for how long?


QUOTE(s6xs9x @ Jun 17 2009, 10:49 PM)
Koma,
Can smoke in your HT room? (sure suffocate eh)
Hehe, your setup is pretty kewl. Who did the acoustics for you.. placements and angle?
Anyway how high is your ceiling? Do you have a drop down on you sitting area.
Did you angle down your room in to a cone narrow front and large back? I noticed that cinemas are not square.

Htkaki,
Perhaps can request for an audition .. then maybe another bolster will be on the left of your room soon ... thumbup.gif
Yah. my sub need to face the wall, no other better direction since position it out. couldn't find a place which can please the walk way.

Dirtrun,
Erm did you post your picture of you setup before? can link me there?
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Added on June 17, 2009, 11:31 pmhi thanks for the comments, no lar juz simple equipment
in a rm with lots of acoustic treatment. im intending to redo
the rm again these 2 weeks to make sure all the rm is fully
covered not a single inch of bare wall left tongue.gif
my rm is bout 4m x 3m. dirtrun will knoe more cause hes been
to my place. juz added is 2 lexicon power amps lately 1st time
playing with power amps so i need some time to fine tune my
system. yes with treatment u can play alot of tins. like i can
create surround back sounds even when im runnin on 5.1
system now. i not the really serious 1, the most serious 1
is the 1 with 7 subs in his rm!! hor dirtrun wink.gif


QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jun 17 2009, 10:39 PM)
Some serious a** stuff u have there bro...how big is ur pad? U have a lot of room treatment, was there a reason? Its good to see Asians taking this HT stuff seriously. I thought only Americans were like this.
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This post has been edited by koma: Jun 17 2009, 11:31 PM
htkaki
post Jun 17 2009, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(koma @ Jun 17 2009, 11:24 PM)
yah sure but i dun knoe the show details yet.
like isit walk in or by invitation onli

hehe yah htkaki when u r here maybe can come my place
n we share some tips. btw u be here for how long?
I am not sure abt it but I have an invitation. Maybe I ll chk for you.

I will be there for a day due to my hectic schedule. Hope that your home is not too far from Adelphi.
koma
post Jun 17 2009, 11:32 PM

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hehe of course bro u seen it in xp liao wink.gif
btw u get ur svs liao?

QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jun 17 2009, 10:58 PM)
the photo look familiar... hmmmm
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htkaki
post Jun 17 2009, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(koma @ Jun 17 2009, 11:32 PM)
hehe of course bro u seen it in xp liao wink.gif
btw u get ur svs liao?
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koma, he has yet to get SVS as I sold my Velodyne CHT-12R to him. Will ask him to come over to my home and let him feel the power of SVS.

Maybe I will sell off my PC-12Plus as I mentioned earlier. In comes the PC-13Ultra and out goes the PC-12Plus to megatron007's uber elite pad.
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post Jun 17 2009, 11:42 PM

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Aiyoh! Another elite in the house! See no sub is too big or too many! Pity my wallet is very thin! blush.gif Now getting more & more poisonous! sad.gif But I am can dream & hope to save for bolster fund! smile.gif
koma
post Jun 17 2009, 11:45 PM

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oic urs by invitation frm KEC?? r u an audio
dealer?? r u driving here??

QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 17 2009, 11:31 PM)
I am not sure abt it but I have an invitation. Maybe I ll chk for you.

I will be there for a day due to my hectic schedule. Hope that your home is not too far from Adelphi.
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post Jun 17 2009, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 17 2009, 11:11 PM)
The L.Y.N. SVS Subwoofer MO club (90% Jadi). Guys, I shall let you all know abt the final price by end of this week or early next week. Please confirm. I need 75% deposit. Balance upon arrival (need to pay tax). Transportation to your doorstep can be arrange for a reasonable fee.

PC12-Plus
------------
1) htkaki (already arrived)
2)
3)

PB12-Plus
------------
1) robinlim (depends on cost)
2)

PC12-NSD
------------
1)jwyj (self order)
2)lightning69 (self order?)
3)

PB12-NSD
------------
1) lexonline
2)

AS-EQ1
---------
1) Jack28HT
2)

PC13-Ultra
-------------
1) mys_terious
2) Jack28HT (depends on cost)
3) htkaki

SB-12 Plus
------------
1) chinmh
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boss, i've changed my status to (depends on cost) smile.gif
pls let me know once u've got the confirmed cost
need to plan for so many things with my tiny budget sad.gif


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