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post May 12 2009, 09:28 AM

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If you're a chinese; then RM12K for whole marrieage is considered very economical edi nod.gif
When my brother got married he have to fork out 3x your sum there.
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post May 12 2009, 09:45 AM

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If there is not a rush to getting married , TS I suggest you to delay your wedding... Engagement is ok.. For what I've seen , my brother is going to marry next year.. Drowy also rm10k, then the wedding photo cost about rm6999 during the wedding fair in mid valley... so TS those things u stated up there is considered acceptable for you enough to cover for this wedding I think.. No offence but just giving my advices..
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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ May 11 2009, 09:53 PM)
TS,....when u wanna marry...u r prepare to spend money!

dun u ever think so? Tis is already started when the moment when u date her or paktor wif her!

Behind every love/romance, money is the 1 who playing the role actually.Only most guys become a "fool" of himself which they dun realize!
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That's right.
Don't you know you are suppose to be prepared when you want to get married?
This is only the wedding ceremony.
What about a place for you and your wife? What about children in the future?

Don't tell me you want to wait until the last minute when you have no choice then you whine and complaint here again.

I can see your fiancee is really putting up with you. Be a man, do your part. She deserves much better ok?
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post May 12 2009, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(moorish @ May 11 2009, 11:19 PM)
Obviously someone very insensitive to girls dream
Obviously someone without a gf
thank you, after reading your post you made me really really appreciate my husband
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Lay off the personal insults if you have nothing better to say. Not everyone subscribes to your gold-digging ways.
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post May 12 2009, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(SPS @ May 12 2009, 09:49 AM)
Lay off the personal insults if you have nothing better to say.  Not everyone subscribes to your gold-digging ways.
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its not personal insult, personal insult would be like named calling moron or stupid or etc..... I'm saying very insensitive to girls feeling, btw you just insulted me about gold-digging without any prove...go read my thread and comment again, it is either you didnt read the whole thing and simply tembak or you dont understand english. doh.gif



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post May 12 2009, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(ravager877 @ May 11 2009, 07:52 PM)
Sigh.

Some of you know my story and about how I'm going to get married sometime mid next year. I had planned to keep things simple but it seems that suddenly things are going out of control...

As usual, all the problems of getting married have to do with MONEY. It seems interesting that there are already topics like this opened before I even posted this up. Here's the issue.

My fiancee is feeling very sad because she feels that as the bride, she should not have to pay for anything and that asking her to chip in on her own wedding is sad and degrading. Me on the other hand, cannot afford to pay for the entire ceremony for the following reasons.

1. Her mum requests a dowry of 3k+ which is cheap by most standards so I'm not complaining there.
2. Also requests 3 different Ang Pow. Its for tradition but the amount she didn't state yet.
3. Fiancee request Photo shoot worth about 2k++ (Damn expensive for photos you wont look at 6 months after your wedding)
4. The big whooper (Wedding dinner costing about 5k)
Haven't cover the the alcohol, gown rental and much much more...

All this I have to cover because my fiancee feels it is my responsibility...
So within the span of a year, I need to put away slightly over 10k (12 to be safe) only to watch it disappear...
And my fiancee wanna go honeymoon later as well....
Sigh...

I argued with her about this already and no solution in sight...

Damn sad...
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OMG....My 21st birthday juz passed through and I used about 8k on it.... =.="

1)its so no problem....infact is abit too lil for me. (no sarcasm....its chinese tradition but 3k seems ok lar but the mroe the merrier lar)
2)this should not be problem...juz load in 100 each
3)Get your own camera man and rent a studio then start shooting....i think i will be doing this.
4)5k is impossible.....hope u can prepare more than that....As i stated above....I used about 8k for a night's dinner to celebrate my birthday. how can a wedding cost lower than birthday??? IO am not a rich kid but I hope when comers to ceremony one can make it as grand as possible. (e.g: hiring strings quartet, making the whole thing look so grand etc)

I guess if it costed RM400 per table....you will need at least 50 of them...That is RM20k , 4 times of what you expected....But nevermind...these money should be in your account unless you dont save.....Or maybe you can ask for help from your mum or dad.

I got a friend, one year elder than me....He married at 18 years old when he make his wife pregnant.... he made a small wedding dinner with only 11 tables....His dad paid for him....swap card for RM14k.... BTW the whole thing is average nia......

My father got a friend....son marriage no enough money to pay ...borrow RM500 from my dad and kater run away after his son married.....only after 12 years later.... He appeared and pay back RM 80 per month.....

5) yea...alcohols...I loved alcohols...... You can always subsitute them with red wines from carrefour.....

hope it helps...
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 09:15 AM)
Dont say like that la, you try to look at things on the parents side, they're handing their daughter to you, means she will be the boys family side, the grandson all follow the boys surname. And its only respectful that you at least compensate back something and this for 2000 years ago has been practice the boy pays the in laws money/gold.



Added on May 12, 2009, 9:17 am

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F1meteor stated that he would not go into debt to host a lavish wedding dinner and here you are encouraging just the opposite? I don't mean to be presumptuous but in your mind's eye, jumping into a debt hole is fine and dandy as long as the woman is pleased (at least for like-minded women like you).

Funny how some people like to selectively adopt "traditions" in their lives as long as it's advantageous to them.


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QUOTE(cutiepooh @ May 12 2009, 09:45 AM)
If there is not a rush to getting married , TS I suggest you to delay your wedding... Engagement is ok.. For what I've seen , my brother is going to marry next year.. Drowy also rm10k, then the wedding photo cost about rm6999 during the wedding fair in mid valley... so TS those things u stated up there is considered acceptable for you enough to cover for this wedding I think.. No offence but just giving my advices..
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yeah... if cant do, don force yourself...
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 09:57 AM)
its not personal insult, personal insult would be like named calling moron or stupid or etc..... I'm saying very insensitive to girls feeling, btw you just insulted me about gold-digging without any prove...go read my thread and comment again, it is either you didnt read the whole thing and simply tembak or you dont understand english. doh.gif
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Re-read your own postings. Postulating a person's relationship status (i.e. implying that no girl wants him as a bf) and manhood soley due to a single posting are insults.

It may be insensitive to you but certainly not to a whole lot of level-headed women out there.

I do not need to read your entire thread - the first posting itself paints a glittering (pun intended) picture of your gold-digging persona. Looks like you do not even realize what you are writing and posting.
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post May 12 2009, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(F1meteor @ May 12 2009, 04:32 AM)
in laws asking for money? that is outrages. i would give the amount that i can afford to. they are not selling their daughter, why are they setting up a price?
ang paus is for the good luck and chinese customs. the amount is entirely not important. but not to that extent of giving just RM10...

if my future wife wants a GRAND wedding, she has to be prepared to help me... i'm not a millionaire.. i think my gf understand me well about this laugh.gif
i don't mind spending for my future wedding, but it has to be within my affordability. taking loan for my wedding is a big NO.
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 09:15 AM)
Dont say like that la, you try to look at things on the parents side, they're handing their daughter to you, means she will be the boys family side, the grandson all follow the boys surname. And its only respectful that you at least compensate back something and this for 2000 years ago has been practice the boy pays the in laws money/gold.

A respectful boy is the boy that I admired.


Added on May 12, 2009, 9:17 am

ask around it is cheap ESPECIALLY IN TOWN....it is still cheap if you compared to Mentakab wedding tongue.gif
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QUOTE(SPS @ May 12 2009, 10:05 AM)
F1meteor stated that he would not go into debt to host a lavish wedding dinner and here you are encouraging just the opposite?  I don't mean to be presumptuous but in your mind's eye, jumping into a debt hole is fine and dandy as long as the woman is pleased (at least for like-minded women like you).

Funny how some people like to selectively adopt "traditions" in their lives as long as it's advantageous to them.
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I think you better learn to read properly b4 you reply, I said he was disrespectful to the parents, notthing mention about the wedding, he can have mamak-stall teh tarik/roti reception for all I care, but saying the parents asking 3k is outrages? I think he and you is the one unclear of the concept.

BTW why you think bank offer loans for wedding?
Because they know people make money from it if plan wisely.


Added on May 12, 2009, 10:13 am
QUOTE(SPS @ May 12 2009, 10:09 AM)
Re-read your own postings.  Postulating a person's relationship status (i.e. implying  that no girl wants him as a bf) and manhood soley due to a single posting are insults.

It may be insensitive to you but certainly not to a whole lot of level-headed women out there.

I do not need to read your entire thread - the first posting itself paints a glittering (pun intended) picture of your gold-digging persona.  Looks like you do not even realize what you are writing and posting.
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Wah...then your comment is not worth for anyone to read..
Its like reading 5% of a book and conclude the storyline....

This post has been edited by moorish: May 12 2009, 10:17 AM
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post May 12 2009, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(kiasu6 @ May 12 2009, 10:08 AM)
yeah... if cant do, don force yourself...
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wei, why suddenly turn to me jor??? tongue.gif my fiance gao dim everything for me la........
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I'm probably the wrong person to ask for advice since my views are usually the outlier, but I feel compelled to say that you should probably think twice about marrying this girl. I'm not saying that she's necessarily a bad person, but if she really is the type of person who would feel that it would be degrading for a girl to chip in on her own marriage or to find ways to minimize expenses, then she's not my type. Since the TS felt that he had to complaint about this mindset, I'd kindly suggest that she might not be his type.

People who write that this is "normal" or "expected" are being ridiculous. This is his marriage, not yours. Marrying someone is probably the most momentous decision in any single person's life, and he has to live with it for the rest of his life. As such, he should get married only under terms that he feels comfortable and happy with, whatever they are. I predict that the TS and his fiancee is going to have an argument even over this. then they're unlikely to have a happy marriage.

Of course, moorish has her point as well. The girl seems to have her own mindset and she shouldn't be obliged to compromise on her dreams. Unfortunately her dreams and expectations seem to conflict with those of the TS, so the TS needs to decide if it's worth it.
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 10:11 AM)
I think you better learn to read properly b4 you reply, I said he was disrespectful to the parents, notthing mention about the wedding, he can have mamak-stall teh tarik/roti reception for all I care, but saying the parents asking 3k is outrages? I think he and you is the one unclear of the concept.

BTW why you think bank offer loans for wedding?
Because they know people make money from it if plan wisely.


Added on May 12, 2009, 10:13 am

Wah...then your comment is not worth for anyone to read..
Its like reading 5% of a book and conclude the storyline....
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It's best for F1meteor to respond to your query but I have extracted and re-posted his comments here for the sake of clarity:

in laws asking for money? that is outrages. i would give the amount that i can afford to. they are not selling their daughter, why are they setting up a price?
ang paus is for the good luck and chinese customs. the amount is entirely not important. but not to that extent of giving just RM10...

if my future wife wants a GRAND wedding, she has to be prepared to help me... i'm not a millionaire.. i think my gf understand me well about this
i don't mind spending for my future wedding, but it has to be within my affordability. taking loan for my wedding is a big NO.


The gist of it is that he stated he would fund a wedding dinner but not to the extent of getting into debt. It may be an insult to YOU but certainly not to a lot of folks.

Personal loans are offered for weddings, jewelry, vacations, etc because they know there are suckers out there who plunge head over heels in debt just to please some manipulative women. A bank exists to make money and not a guilt compass if that is what you are alluding to.

An internet forum thread is not a book, a posting or two will reveal what the forummer is attempting to postulate - in your case, it's plain vanilla simple => your mantra is basically "what yours is mine and what's mine is mine" in a marital relationship.
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TS, u hilite that u uang x cukup.

so wat are u income first?

it dont matter what is the cost of wedding unless u give info on ur earning capability!


also
+1 for cracksys laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cutiepooh @ May 12 2009, 10:19 AM)
wei, why suddenly turn to me jor??? tongue.gif my fiance gao dim everything for me la........
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no la.. i mean TS...

is force like that marry not happy, better not first loh.. tongue.gif

sorry leh.. i not mean u cutie..
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QUOTE(cracksys @ May 12 2009, 09:08 AM)

its his fiancee mindset that need a major overhaul.
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for marriage, i would say it depends on ur financial status. both of u r getting married n is both of ur responsibilities to share the cost of marriage, of course as a man, we should always try to take full responsibility if is financially affordable

if u r having problems, share it with her and ask for her support, she is the one who will spend the rest of ur life with. and tell her about ur financial status after marriage as after that, life still goes on
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ May 12 2009, 10:20 AM)
I'm probably the wrong person to ask for advice since my views are usually the outlier, but I feel compelled to say that you should probably think twice about marrying this girl. I'm not saying that she's necessarily a bad person, but if she really is the type of person who would feel that it would be degrading for a girl to chip in on her own marriage or to find ways to minimize expenses, then she's not my type. Since the TS felt that he had to complaint about this mindset, I'd kindly suggest that she might not be his type.

People who write that this is "normal" or "expected" are being ridiculous. This is his marriage, not yours. Marrying someone is probably the most momentous decision in any single person's life, and he has to live with it for the rest of his life. As such, he should get married only under terms that he feels comfortable and happy with, whatever they are. I predict that the TS and his fiancee is going to have an argument even over this. then they're unlikely to have a happy marriage.

Of course, moorish has her point as well. The girl seems to have her own mindset and she shouldn't be obliged to compromise on her dreams. Unfortunately her dreams and expectations seem to conflict with those of the TS, so the TS needs to decide if it's worth it.
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Quoted FTW.




This post has been edited by n00b13: May 12 2009, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ May 12 2009, 11:25 AM)
Quoted FTW.

I'm not going to pass judgment on TS or his fiancee. I do think - I, me, myself, no one else - that she's not someone I'd touch with a 20-foot pole, let alone even think about marrying.

I think about my ex-gfs. I loved them, deeply, even though we've since broken up. Now I find myself thinking of each one, and asking - are they the kind of girl who'd insist on not paying a cent for our wedding.

And the answer for each one is I don't know. For all that I loved them and loved being with them, I didn't know them well enough
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hmmm... you won't know until you buy the ring and ask her to marry you laugh.gif

unless... Maybe what you can do is to discuss about marriage seriously. Plan your finances together for marriage plans, housing, children etc. if you are pretty sure she is the person you would like to spend your life with.

At the same time you need to be tactful. There may be a possibility of you finding out she is not suitable and you've talked about marriage giving her false hopes.

I think the best works on 2 mature individual who are both financially sound and independent. They can just get married anytime because they're both ready!
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QUOTE(barista @ May 12 2009, 09:47 AM)
That's right.
Don't you know you are suppose to be prepared when you want to get married?
This is only the wedding ceremony.
What about a place for you and your wife? What about children in the future?

Don't tell me you want to wait until the last minute when you have no choice then you whine and complaint here again.

I can see your fiancee is really putting up with you. Be a man, do your part. She deserves much better ok?
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QUOTE(kiasu6 @ May 12 2009, 10:08 AM)
yeah... if cant do, don force yourself...
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Correction,it should be...."no money dun think of marriage"...or maybe dun ever think of having a GF at the 1st place!

QUOTE(cutiepooh @ May 12 2009, 10:19 AM)
wei, why suddenly turn to me jor??? tongue.gif my fiance gao dim everything for me la........
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I know ur fiancee is prepared everything for both of u thumbup.gif

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