you stand an equal chance of him falling out of love and fooling around 10 years later in all the guys. So why not pick a rich guy?

I work in a bank. I have seen many stuffs like this.

Example :
Before married both share ideas and discuss on spending responsibly and for setting up a family. After married the wife controls all the money !
Account must be joint name...lar.... account must be both to sign lar.....watever...
wife acting on behalf of the husband (who is the legal and rightful a/c holder) asking this and that lar...
she has showed her true colors.

girls in a way wanted security... and in the fast paced modern life today security = money , then money converts to home, car + 1 car for her, raising a child to tertiary education, vacation.....bla bla bla....

Lol.. started calling ppl Noob after cant retaliate properly?
very childish.

Working life hard hor... go find a rich husband la since security ($$$$) is more important than find a normal average guy who earn a normal good pay.

Life is full of challenges and ppl will try "find short cut" to achieve their goal.
Some cant differentiate between wat is right or wrong coz blinded by extra $$$$$.. n make their decision based on $$$$ 1st.. others factor put for 2nd tot onli.

If there's one thing I find despicable is the emphasis on the end result, rather then the root of it. So much talk about money, so little on the characteristics and attitude to be a success story.

Now there's the issue of credibility when it comes to giving an opinion. Well let me just say this, you don't necessarily need to be married to understand marriage. Why do people get divorced if they understand the concept of marriage so well? Maybe it's because they don't. Some stay married out of convenience. I know this married couple, mainly because the wife was my ex. Amongst my friends, they have possibly stayed married the longest. Problem is that both have affairs outside every now and then. I don't see much love between them but until there's a big enough reason to part, I don't think they will. So there, here's an example of a married couple but would you take their opinions on marriage seriously?

cause rich is not secure enough compare to attitude, no ?

First come first served.

I will definitely not to be like this.
LOL

If you don't think I'm a materialistic gal, why would you imply something and ask me to find a rich husband so that I don't have to work hard? You are plainly taking those words to hurt someone, instead of really go into a debate.

The more you reply to my posts, the more you are telling me that you don't know how to reply a person's post well, by reading every words she wrote and understand what she means before putting scarcastic comments. Since you are those streetguys who just know how to quote people's words out of context, I don't see any purpose to continue this debate with you.

Part of the reasons why a gal go for monetary security is because of guys with bad attitude like you, do not show respect and do not understand each other feeling. Ok then, how worth you are: an Average with average pay guy with BAD ATTITUDE like you, for a gal to marry as a husband? I'm pity of a boy like you (since you were born in year 1988, 21 years old kid), but you don't even have the gentleness and self-motiavted a man should behave, and shooting other "materialistic" gals who are ambitious to work hard and earn money.

Wait until one day you can afford to feed your parents and they don't have to work any longer, then only come back and shoot me.

You turned me off. Badly. I have nothing to talk to you. That's it.

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Added on October 6, 2009, 11:31 amNick, everyone will change.
You can't guarantee you won't change one day. You can't tell if the way you value things will change 2 years later, 5 years or even 10 years later.

This post has been edited by debbieyss: Oct 6 2009, 11:42 AM

huh? I lost you there.

Equal?

A is rich
B is not rich

both have same characteristics, who would stand higher chances of getting an affair? obviously is A not B. If you cant understand this, you simply have reasoning problem. Even if you counter by saying everyone is different, heck the person with lots of money still stand high chances of getting an affair. No?

While at it, please attend some english classes or at least learn how to read and comprehend english. I bet primary school kids possess better english comprehension than you. Your thread echoes "Come shoot me, I m stupid".

the possibilities are there, but after we live and learn long enough, we will soon know that there are something that doesn't change a person till he dies =)

i mean girl choose rich mostly because of security rite ? and it's doesn't sound secure enough compare to having the right mentality in a person no ?

This post has been edited by nickisthemost: Oct 6 2009, 11:45 AM

Herein lies the flaw in your argument. This is an assumption and unless we're working on developing economic theories, we cannot assume that everything is ceteris paribus.

The only way this argument would hold water is if you set the parameters, one of them being that all guys are the same regardless of social standing and wealth.

oh you again not yet lose face yesterday about english.

So in your mind only the rich will fool around,
lemme ask you this, those cheap prostitute den, cheap karaoke setup are for which classes of people?
You think poor people are holier and flirt any less than the rich?
Flirtation flaw are in the person not the pocket. The different between the 2 is the rich will have a higher chances of getting the girl as compared with the poor, the poor needs to work harder.

and you ever heard of the saying "kong sum mei chun sek sum yau hei"?

You're emo by calling me stupid, well I can lower my IQ and start a name calling war with you if thats what yu wan but pls open a new thread so I can do that.

btw I recall yesterday you cant even understand the dictionary you posted hahahha

We cannot blame moorish because she is kampung gal with kampung mentality. Modern women prefer to earn their own money and live independently, without relying on men. It is amusing, she preaches others to choose a rich guy as husband. Moorish, are you still living in a cave? please continue this debate because you are my entertainment!

ada wang = ada amoi + banyak pilihan yang menarik..... LOL corrected to reveal the truth.....

I have read and article which says a highly educated, very attractive woman,25, in her attempts searching for husband who earn USD500K annually.
That's a heck lot of money. She posted the adverts in a matchmaking forum, and even provide some evidence that she gets many offers and choices because of her beauty.

The reply from a broker from JP Morgan who is qualified and earns above USD500K annually.

Here is a deal. Person A trades beauty for money. Person B pays money to get beauty. The deal seems fair enough.

In the investment point of view, beauty obviously don't last forever thus makes it a liability in maintaining it, and a depreciating asset. The depreciation is not gradually but exponentially, if not properly handled or maintained. Since beauty is your only asset in landing yourself to marry a rich husband, I wonder what would you have left to show 10 to 15 years later.

Depreciating assets are best to be use, then disposed off or sold off, or leased. Not suitable to be held for long term. Such as a car for example, we initially by a car for means of transport from point A to point B, but when we earn more money we sold the old one at a fraction lower than the original price because of depreciation and buy a new bigger better car. As for the Ms. Highly Educated Beautiful, men will only date you, and will never marry you, even if you lowered your expectations, still you are depreciating. Men will only see you as a beautiful but lazy woman looking for a shortcut to unlimited wealth. Money won't come to you without hard work. No pain, no gain. This is reality.

Whereas for men as long as we are physically strong, motivated, eager to learn, work hard, and work smart + intelligently our income will grow higher and higher, plus with regular exercise to keep ourselves fit and healthy, this makes us men an appreciating asset. Under proper financial management earning more money will get us men, bigger house, bigger car and a whole lot of fun awaits us.

Sorry to be so direct, girls. Therefore investing in beauty, is definitely a lost and long term liability. Perhaps instead of day dreaming of marrying a rich husband earning USD500K annually, maybe you can make yourself earn that much annually, and promote gender equality. Anyone girls interested in leasing?


Signed
Executive JP Morgan

This post has been edited by blitzboy: Oct 6 2009, 12:06 PM

i never said to restrict only to money? rich guys have good mentality as well no?

I think you got it wrong, I've never made comparison, I only say marry a rich man.

Then war starts, the guys here kept saying the rich will get a mistress or new younger wife and divorce the old wife.
rich people are bad and loveless.

I'm just trying to correct things and let them know good and bad exist in all.

I've only put an extra requirement in my husband criteria, and that is money.

Gosh, is your mind so narrowly single tracked? I'm not saying you run to the richest guy, but "rich" is a necessity to you, and you have placed "rich" as a higher priority over love. Love being the feelings, responsibility and commitment to a relationship. You have placed the person's wealth HIGHER than the person's character. In essence, you're saying the person's money, is more important than the person himself.

I threw a scenario to you, to answer, it will clear up your position, but rather than answer it, you chose to side step the question. This only further weakens your position in this discussion, as it seems you're trying to escape.

Here's the scenario again:
If your husband is making 15k a month and its enough for you, a guy who is making 100k a month isn't going to be very enticing to you. However, if suddenly things go bad for business and he ends up making 2k a month... would someone who is making 12k a month might seem more enticing to you now? Would you change your lifestyle, demands and expectations during the rough times? Would you be able to resist the tempations of material wealth if approached by another guy?

Remember, things are alot easier said than done, and people tend to look for things they cannot get in a relationship... outside their relationship. Whether you're such a person, I do not know, but the position you advocate goes encourages such behaviour rather than enforce the necessity of falling for a person's character rather than their bank account.


You're so damn shallow. Guys who marry a girl just because she's pretty is shallow, and that sort of person is very likely to cheat on her once her beauty starts to fade. Yes, we men like beautiful women... but the person we choose (or at least I) has something else besides the beauty. The thing that makes us stick to them is not how she looks, but who she is.

Her looks may attract me to get to know her better, but what would make me stick around her, is what kind of person she is. Do you see the difference with the position you advocate?


Its one thing to say that you chose another guy because your current guy was just a total bum. Its another to say that you leave your current guy because the other guy has more zeroes in his account. While there are scenarios where both criteria fits, the latter scenario can also happen if your guy is making enough, but you just demand more. THAT is the position you're advocating, and THAT is why you're getting so much flak.

I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. I do agree with that there is nothing wrong with a girl expecting her life long partner to be successful. However, I do not agree with your advocation of the position that wealth is more important than the person himself. Wealth, is a supporting factor, not the initial and deciding factor.


You can never really know... the only way to know is to hit rock bottom and see if she'll be there to support you back up. That will be the test of her love, if she dumps you for someone richer because of that, then you can know that she loved the money... not you. However, who will want to hit rock bottom when they're at the top just to "test" this? Its stupid and pointless, so such a test cannot be artificially produced.

If you choose a person because of their wealth, you are essentially selling yourself. The fallacy moorish makes, is that its "the highest bidder", which is not necessarily the case. Its not an auction Its really more like how the market works. If a person buys at a price you're comfortable with, then its ok. You don't need to wait for the highest bidder, just enough to satisfy yourself.

The problem in this, that I keep trying to tell moorish, is that it places the wealth BEFORE the person. Its not "My partner has to have abc characterics and be able to support my family". She advocates "My partner has to be rich and also have abc characteristics".

+1

excuse me again you've slapped your face, the modern metropolitan city life girl will go for money, its the kampung girl who dun mind working as potong susu and continue to churn out children and worry later if the child gets their education.

Kampung mentality is simply, so I think yu're from kampung HAHAHAHA

tell you what, you're incapable to debate, if you continue you;ll keep slapping yourself. So safe yourselves and keep quiet and learn.

I tell you what: man always stands the privilidge to take care and bare the living expenses of a family, ALL on his own. Be it in olden days or modern days, this is the natural, originial and initial living culture.

However, due to the current economics status, a man who has average pay can no longer be the only person to support the whole family, in order to give their family a moderate educations, medicals, daily, monthly or annual bills or installments. And that's why women nowadays coming out and start working for another pack of monthly income. Sad to say, this issue has been manipulated by many men out there (mainly those who are not self-motiaveted and incapable men who likes to stay in comfort zone), that women working in corporate world is a common issue and who do not, are plain lazy or selfish women, that sucks their husbands' money and properties.

If you have time, read some economics reference books, I believe this would help you understand more about the economics status that the whole world is facing.

Last but not least, it's not for a man to ask his wife or gf to build up her own financial ability; It's for a gal that willing to share the burden with her man and therefore do not mind to leave her comfort zone and start going back to her working life.

p.s: above highlighted portions are the edited done for your kind perusal. You may need to brush up your English, too.

This post has been edited by debbieyss: Oct 6 2009, 12:26 PM

hahaha.. oh no, I dont mean to start war but I enjoy bashing you and your level of english comprehension Like redduke have posted, it depends on the individual personality rather than just monetary. Like in all your posts, it revolves only money, money and money. And bcoz female like you, all girls go after rich dude without second thought. Hell, I m not envy or jealous bcoz their sh-t is not my problem.

I cannot stop you if you want to live in a cave and think like a caveman. HAHAH!

what if i am already kinda at rock bottom when i met up and coupled up with my girl?
she be here to support me, believe in me as i race to reach the top together with her ...

This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Oct 6 2009, 12:27 PM

HAHAHA! from the mind of a materialistic kampung gal.