Welcome to the dark side.. hehe

if u dont practise and go through the pain, u wont able to perform any breakdance move.

I'm into heavy metal not breakdancing..

Heavy metal lovers oso a?

wat similarities we've got here
haha

now tend to like oldies la and evergreen malays song

njoying karaoke with frens nowadays

better than lepak alone maa.. lets hang out man..

wah me too... im malay, are u? im from batu pahat..

malay oso la.. from melaka but work in ipoh now

used to be join gig..but now..xboleh masuk la..
budak2 sekolah crazy la

Yeah growing up is inevitable.

Still looking at adults, sometimes I wonder what on earth did they go through to bring about such change, what happened to their dreams, it seems life throws you a punch, you get beaten black and blue, yet remain alive walking on grimly.
And that's life.

Wisdom is essential and it can only be gained through experience, I do look forward to this, I'm still a young 'un with loads to learn.

Primacy however is debatable.
Primacy is the state or condition of being prime or first, as in time, place, rank, etc., hence, excellency; supremacy.

I used to think that it is something I should always go for, until I read something that made me wonder whether it will bring true satisfaction, primacy makes life feel like a rat race, forever running trying to get ahead of the pack.

"It is 1979, a basketball game in the Brandeis gym. The team is doing well, and the student section begins a chant, 'We're number one! We're number one!' Morrie is sitting nearby. He is puzzled by the cheer. At one point, in the midst of 'We're number one!', he rises and yells, 'What's wrong with being number two?' The students look at him. They stop chanting. He sits down, smiling and triumphant."
(Tuesdays with Morrie)

I like your attitude towards life. Past few months I've been reading some books and it did touch on this. Reviewing Randy Pausch's video again reaffirmed this i.e. what happened to the childhood innocence in us.

What happened to

"When I grow up, I want to be a doctor!"
"When I grow up, I want to be a pilot!"
"When I grow up, I want to be able to help people"

In my opinion, one of the worse things that can be said to an individual is "It can't be done." "Give it up"

Just pause and think for a moment, what world would we be in if the Wright's Brother's said "F*** this shit, it ain't gonna work"
or perhaps if Thomas Elva Edison said "Screw this, I've tried over 1 thousand times and it didn't work"

I sense a beautiful relationship blooming

why?
isnt it gud to make frens with him
at least im helping rather than blaming and bla2..

this thread is nice but it still didnt answer all my question

+1!

I wanted to say that earlier, but didn't want to be ce la kah.

nice 1,u sure have doing alot of home work

Do you imagine that every adult has been beaten down and defeated by life in order to live a grim existence?

You obviously do not know many successful, happy, balanced people.

I don't know who this Morrie person is, or why this story is so great. It is probably false. In real life he would probably have paper cups thrown at his head, minimum.

I could probably write a dozen other real stories where people had to really DO OR DIE - trying or not - but what is the point?

Primacy is an easy choice for people with drive an ambition to make when the alternative is mediocrity. The point is for most people being the BEST at whatever it is THEY want to do, getting the most out of whatever life it is THEY want to live is just too difficult for them, so they just settle for the middle ground. They'll float above mediocrity and they'll struggle against the waves, but they'll do only just that. I think THAT is the real waste of human dreams, hopes and ambitions - that they be relegated entirely to fantasy, and wilful naivety.

EVERY post that silverhawk and the contra camp has made here would point people towards a better, more rewarding future filled with better interactions with women. It is sad for me to see that people would rather cling to emotional riots and fantastical daydreams than face up to reality to get what they truly deserve.

Let me tell you something... when you meet a girl and she really likes you back, it is hell of a lot better than clinging to the UBERLAME concept of "confessing", agonising over it, and then living in fear or rejection or in the long shadow of its past.

This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: Apr 15 2009, 11:18 PM

I'm not saying all adults led such unhappy lives, it just that there are unhappy elements entering into adulthood, its no longer a bed of roses one enjoys in one's childhood. And people do get affected by it, whether positively or negatively, you strike a notch on the experience bar, that's how maturity is gained, no?

Still I see many adults, they grow and leave behind dreams of their childhood, not many hang on to it dismissing them as unrealistic, foolish dreams out of one's reach, everything becomes so realistic, being hopeful seems so ignorant, being genuinely sympathetic, you're gullible, dream and you're wasting time.

Hmm you don't know Tuesdays with Morrie? Do you know Mitch Albom (author of The Five People You Meet in Heaven)? Great writer, his books are good, highly recommended (its the first book my mom manage to finish in her adulthood .... )
I like that story about what happened in the basketball court, people get so into winning, being number one (makes you think all the other numbers don't deserve to exist) that they forget that life doesn't only revolve around number 1, regardless of what number you get, life goes on, not stopping, the most important thing to me is how do you make the most of your life?


Primacy to me is a measure of standards, one where there is constant comparison with oneself and the rest of the herd (everyone else). Primacy is being ahead of the pack, as a student, being ahead of the class, and for a time that was all I was concerned about, until one day I took a step back and looked at my life and ask myself why am I doing this? Am I happy? Do I like the way my education is shaping? Why am I trying to measure myself up to other people's standards?

Anyway after a period of self-questioning, I realize there are more to life than that, I picked up sports (was a geek), dump the trash school disguised as education and did an outline on things I wanted to learn (music, art, philosophy, world history, humanities, sciences of my choice, self-learning is the way to go) and learn how to relax and make friends, proper genuine life-lasting friends (not hi-bye friends)
I live by my own standards.
Yes, competition in life exist and cannot be brush of just like that upon entering the working world, I just believe in doing the best in what makes me happy.


Of course life is better when you can actually interact well with the people you're interested in, but not everyone is born a social butterfly, that however shouldn't be an excuse, making an effort to change is a good first step. Most of these guys here are too comfortable in their shells, they dare not approach the girl but some even expect the girl to approach them!
I don't believe in sitting around and waiting (thinking "Oh, if it is fated, we'll somehow end up speaking!") nope that's not going to happen, you make your own fate.

Ah that is if I ever meet such a person

And sorry for the long non-cupid corner post above.

This post has been edited by Jyou: Apr 16 2009, 03:46 PM

jyou if you are what you say on the above, i believe you should have no problems meeting such a girl. if not, something is lacking from your post you're not telling yet....

Man you are a really sharp guy...
Yeah I missed out on something, I'm leaving for Canada for my tertiary education in September ... she will be leaving for USA one year later.
I do plan to tell her how I feel before I leave, the problem is the aftermath ...

If you're confident that both of you will handle things well after you confessed, (whether you're succesful or not), and by all means take your chances. Good luck bro...

well, first morrie is an old man, so nobody throws cup at old people, thats just wrong.
Second, if i recall, this happen in a university. so u know university, the behavior better tahn school or public.

You might as well tell her now and have a good time if things go well. Else, don't need to tell at all since both heading different directions, different timing.