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post Mar 6 2009, 10:55 AM, updated 15y ago

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I’m writing this down out of my free time at home. I’ve encountered LOTS of rejection from girls and just want to share my side of experience (what I’ve summed out from it actually) and hopefully, it will shed some lights to some of the forummers here. Keep in mind that my findings here are solely based on my experience, and many of you will disapprove it or find it very misleading. I’m okay with it. In the end, I just want to share. Here goes nothing...

FOR GUYS WHO WANT TO CONFESS TO A GIRL - FRIEND
(Dedicated to those who never had a girlfiriend / never confess before..)


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FOR GIRLS WHO’S BEING CONFESSED BY A MALE FRIEND

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THEN HOW TO AVOID THESE DILEMMA ?

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THE CONCLUSION
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Thanks for your time reading this..
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post Mar 6 2009, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Mar 6 2009, 11:15 AM)
nice one.

MODs. this one deserves a sticky. but then again, cupid corner will have less emo topic like "why she like that one." or trivial topic like "what does that means: she touched my ankle" or its equivalent.
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QUOTE(fire_hoax)
I think it's a great guide for those inexperience ones
Thanks for your time for sharing it


QUOTE(ice_prince7)
+2, i agree with hoilok n ts


QUOTE(hoilok)
not bad not bad ...good advice for the young one


Thanks all

QUOTE(anni)
I appreciate your lesson. but it discourages those who is in the hesatating state wheter confess or not.

If you don't try you don't know. A man needs to bear the consequences and live on.

No offense but you sound like the typical asian who think too much, possibly a person with low self confidence and low self esteem.

maybe you were hurt before, but i don't think by doing this will be any better.


I know it sounded demotivating but that's not my goal. By all means If someone wants to confess go ahead. My point is to be prepare for the aftermath and dont just blindly confess and then getting hurt.
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post Mar 6 2009, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(rognales @ Mar 6 2009, 11:36 AM)
dugg.

really nice article, altho its pointing only to one direction.
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Its true because I only point on the rejection part. If it was not a rejection and the guy was accepted, then no point in having this conversation right?tongue.gif They both are happy..


Added on March 6, 2009, 11:40 am
QUOTE(thken @ Mar 6 2009, 11:38 AM)
dude, is this copyrighted?
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Nope, its straight came out last night, while I was having a cigarette in my room. Its what I've learnt so far from my side..

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post Mar 6 2009, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 6 2009, 12:47 PM)
Basically your whole post boils down to this point. Its really not a bad piece of advice, but the way you've described it, I have to disagree with what you said. The advice you're giving IS BAD. Why? because you're setting a negative attitude.

The biggest problem is your low self-esteem. You don't believe in your self, you don't have a positive view of yourself. You look at your flaws, and think everyone judges you on that. By thinking like this, you sub-consciously project these flaws to people around you, which in turn, turn people away. What happens is a negative feedback loop that sends you in a downward spiral.

Ask yourself, what do you really want in life? What are your goals? What qualities do you want in your friends? What qualities do you want in your partner? Don't just fall for someone because they gave you some attention, this is the biggest mistake lonely people make. You must have your own standards of what qualities your partner should have, and choose people based on that. Don't get blinded by the beauty and attention given.

When you have goals in your life, principles, standards, then you have a strong foundation. Make yourself happy first and foremost. When you're happy, your mood changes, you get a more positive outlook, your self-esteem increases and you become more confident. The positive feedback loop is much more beneficial for you.

You're still going to get rejected, but hey, learn to f`ing deal with it. Failure is a part of life, you have to fail to succeed. How many times did you fall and injure yourself before you learned to ride a bike? How many times did you fail an exam because you couldn't grasp the subject yet? How many of you gave up? How many of you persevered and gained the benefits of your hardwork?

Let me share with you a motivational poem, I've highlighted the parts which are most relevant to this topic. The entire poem is something you should recite and know by heart.

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In the great words of Russell Peters... BE A MAN!
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Yup that's my main point exactly, which is to always keeps a reality check. It's OK to have feelings, having hopes but don't let yourself consumed too much by it. It never hurts to be prepare for the worst (but not being totally negative), rather than not thinking about it and not be prepared.
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post Mar 6 2009, 03:24 PM

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Please keep in mind that these are for those who can't face rejection well. Not all have the same strength as U silverhawk or everybody else. I once almost kill myself because of rejection and now I learnt from that and know better. It's a stupid thing to do back then. Now I'm okay with it and in the future I'm confident I can manage to handle it.

This thread is created for:

1. A person who's so infatuated with someone that the idea of her rejection is NOT an option for him.
2. A person who is likely to beat himself up, feeling so miserable after rejection.

I've said it and I say it again. Rejection is harmless if the person accept it with an open mind and see it as a way to improve themselves BUT if they can't live with it, better not to confess if it will only lead them to their own demise.
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post Mar 6 2009, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 6 2009, 03:30 PM)
That is why I say its bad advice. If you always run away from the pain, you'll never grow. You will always run from hardship because you don't want to get hurt. You don't dare to take risks. You never learn how to handle the pain, you never learn how to stand up again after falling. How is any of these attributes good?

All you're doing is encouraging these people to hide, letting them think its OK. Its not and they have to realise this.
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Hmm you got a point there. Maybe 2 hours of write up last nite is not enough to well justify my point. I agree that hiding and not taking risks is unhealthy as you will be afraid to try.

So to those people who want to confess, go on confess. You know yourself better than anyone, what you capable and uncapable of. If you honestly can't handle the aftermath (being rejected of course), just be positive about it. Just dont turn yourself into a walking time bomb ready to obliterate anything, or anyone in your path. That's why I created this writing, to save you from yourself from walking the burning road that I've once taken.
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post Mar 6 2009, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(mypenandpencil @ Mar 6 2009, 04:08 PM)
how do you justify it as a bad advise if indeed, kopitiam surfers are in CC and needed that type of advise too?
what have you realised being confident all the while and not putting yourself in their shoes thinking of their world?
if you were born poor, ugly and all the bad things, self confidence is not easy as you've said
and TS is just having a share case, you don't have to batter his self esteem as he has already battered from his situation.
he's not even close to self pity. and you're so self absorbed.
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Whoa easy there... thanks for backing me up. smile.gif But I'm fine with it actually, at least people are discussing it..Yup you're right I'm just sharing from all of my failures, and it seems that all of it are similar from one rejection to another, because I've tend to fall for my girl-friends. It's not easy for a guy like me to know (or approach) some stranger to start a conversation. I've tried that and it just scare them away most of the time. The girls I know, is all within friends circle. So I thought, maybe I could use my experience to share, for those who are lonely like me, to give them some thoughts if they fall in love with their girl-friends..
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post Mar 6 2009, 05:04 PM

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Rileks rileks jangan gado gado.. tongue.gif


Added on March 6, 2009, 5:11 pm
QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 6 2009, 04:24 PM)
You see, you probably don't know how TS used to be, most of us were here and saw how bitter he was. He's slightly better now, but that darkness is still in him, it shouldn't be there.


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Haha you remember me ya? tongue.gif Well that was back then when I was naive and infatuated. And hell yeah that darkness still resides in me. Don't get me wrong once you know me personally, I'm a friendly person, just not that happy go lucky type because that's not me. What can I say, I am what I am, I love being gloomy. tongue.gif

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post Mar 6 2009, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 6 2009, 05:15 PM)
miao
Tak gado bang, jangan risau happy.gif
Yes, I remember tongue.gif
Its ok to be who you want to be, but just ask yourself, is this who you really want to be? You don't have to justify to me or anyone here. Just ask yourself the question, and answer it to yourself.
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Have the answer already. smile.gif And by the way the signature just temporary one so no worries. I'm a designer and love to play around with "emotionally impactful designs".


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QUOTE(joeycheong23 @ Mar 6 2009, 05:28 PM)
not bad. good one.
maybe u can try typing on girls confessing on guys?  laugh.gif
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I think it's almost the same. Have to know girls to survey first and write my findings.. hehe

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post Mar 7 2009, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Mar 7 2009, 09:15 AM)
Im sorry to say, but there are some misleads and hypocrisy involves in this article of yours.
I have no idea what you're talking here but if i have to tell you the truth, beauty is IN the eye of beholder. Are you trying to tell the whole world that we are superficial when judging a concept of beauty just because you had been rejected numerous times? If a lady with hotness and sexiness walks in front of you and you were attracted to her (keeping an eye on her), are you trying to tell me that you are superficial with your thoughts? Sounds like hypocrisy here. Or maybe you're telling me that when women keep rejecting you, to a certain point you believed that you had 'enough' thus concluding its all superficial to you and so the whole world must know that if a person had been rejected thousand times, women must be actually be saying that you're not handsome? Well, sucks to be you but i still have to tell you the truth that beauty is still in the eye of beholder because we are always attracted to attractive things regardless the standards that we possess in ourselves.  Beauty itself is a whole subjective matter. Your point is invalid when you summarize that beauty is just about look and appearance itself. Your look, your problem. Deal with it. Pointless to tell the whole world that we are not the beholder of beauty. And no, we are not superficial creature. Your ego is. 

The problem with you is not about your looks. Some of them who rejected you might said it right but the truth still remains where you yourself do not actually know how women think differently than men and how they decide whats best for them. Even, if any miraculous event happen in your life when all of sudden you're a good looking man, i still believe you lack the confidence to actually learn more about the women which is why you always lost your step when approaching them or try to escalate from a friendship level. Yes you do see the mirror everyday, but unfortunately, it reflected your ego if you give it a deep thought about it.
And how exactly you're going to do that when uncertainties lingering inside your mind? If i must say something about this, confession isn't actually gambling. Its just an expression of suppressed feelings you had for the other. If you're going in with an expectation of getting a partner without considering what she wants and needs plus the problems that she faces, then of course you're likely to fail as it gets uncertain especially when the hints aren't strong enough for you to interpret them as CERTAINTY. Confession isn't a competition. Its not about how you want to hear yes rather than no. Its about how you move on from either yes or no and continue your life with extra responsibilities.

You wanna deal with rejection, you gotta have something else aside from her to be cherish which is yourself. An easy step to actually BE prepared for any unlikely circumstances is to actually understand that it takes two way to build a street towards relationship. Two yes = yes. One yes or one uncertain = no ( need more time and space and understanding). And most of the time people have tendency to put all their eggs into one basket. If you can deal with the pain and live your life with positivity, then its good but how do you 'quantify and qualify' the damage? You yourself know better. Best way, put yourself first in front of her and at the same time don't be selfish. Loving yourself isn't about being a selfish prick who wants every chick to die at his fingertips or get a woman just for the sake of getting a woman. Its about how you 'diverse' the risk and lower the magnitude of pain (differs from individual to individual as the magnitude of pain is proportionate to how you're going to heal yourself thoroughly) and live your life better and also to be progressive towards your life goals. Relationship after all, is not actually as 'lovey-dovey' as it seems no matter how happy you are when you get an acceptance. Its how you move on from either of the result of the confession.
Without pain, a person would not grow to reach his ideal state (assuming here a better and stronger person is an ideal state). But if he chose to be a sadist and tell the whole world how sympathetically he is, what is there to gain? Some points are agreeable & valid and the above are the one i strongly disagree. Its the wrong message conveyed out there by you. Your improvisation towards your life right now is an appetizer to my breakfast this morning but if you want to convince people more about your changes, how about change the siggy as a start? smile.gif A positive advice is very unlikely comes from a negative person. Like a friend of mine pointed out, 'How can a poor teach the others to be a millionaire where he himself is poor?'

Truth to be told, there is no need for such article to be written. You wanna tell how people deal with rejections, the first thing you should do is open their mind with possibilities not reality. IF you realize something in your article, is that you're actually projecting your sadness, ego, hurt, sympathy and many more negativity inside such article. Is that the right way to project it to readers? Its like indirectly telling how total loser you are if you were to ask my inner thoughts after being indifferent towards your article. Im still looking forward , to how you going to improvise on yourself. THAT is more 'exciting' to read and anticipate about. And please understand more about women. You still lack the attitude and knowledge to confront them.
So you're implying a realist can't be romantic? Or perhaps a realist isn't supposed to be romantic, because it isn't suppose to be practiced in reality?
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Knowing your "style", I understand you have your own perceptions. And trust me you and I in this or the next lifetime will never be on the same page on many levels. We're totally different and I can't imagine you and I sitting in the same room for 10 minutes. However I honestly appreciate your concern for me, and your words of wisdom. But the truth is, you have your own thoughts, your own experiences, your own life and I've experienced mine. I can never understand yours and you can never understand mine. Please don't assume to know me by just reading my writings.

What I'm telling here is what will happen for a person who's naive if they fall for / becomes infatuated with a female friend, and the possibilities of ruining a friendship is very likely to happen if the person got rejected if both or either party wont handle it seriously. I just dont want people who will experience it, ended up the way like I did. That's why it sounded so gloomy, because after all my encounters falling in love with my female friends, then got rejected by them, that's exactly what have happened. The friendship ruined even I've honestly tried to make amends. I'm not saying not to confess, but if you can't handle the rejection, better dont if you become so infatuated and rejection is not an option for you. It will only leads you to your own demise and sour/lose your friendship. If you treasur your friendship, better dont. This is a situation for those naive people who falls in love with their close friend, or scenario like that. What he will possibly encounters if things like that happened.

You said quite a handful about people who fails to understand women. Maybe you're good at it, well good for you and good being you. But for guys like me, the only women I knew is the ones in my friend circle. That's all. It's not easy for me to approach some strangers, getting to know them. If we can exchange bodies, then you'd understand. How can guy like me understand women, if they immediately close the door? And please don't assume I blindly approach them for her numbers etc etc.. I'm not that stupid / desperate. And please NEVER assume I approached the hot ones, I'm not that shallow...

In the end, I just want to give the idea of possibilities of what will happen, because that possibility happened in reality. So the naive guy who falls in love with a colleague, or a friend will know what he's getting himself into. It might ended up well, or if not well taken care of, it might turns bad and the costs is losing a friendship once built. In the end it all came down to both of the parties to handle the aftermath.

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post Mar 7 2009, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Mar 7 2009, 10:32 AM)
... you really sound bitter...and with that signature of yours, i really hope that you would remove that first, and also remove the idea of suicidal in your mind

i really would recommend you a friend to talk to, whom you are comfortable with, or a clinical psychologist...not that you have some abnormalities in your thoughts, but you just need someone to really listen to you and understand you...

perhaps, you really need to enjoy life just once, to notice how much is there that you would have probably overlooked, those whom had a genuine concern for you, and really enjoyed your company

if you are able to portray that you are enjoying yourself to those who are near you, and show genuine concern for those around you, you are really bound to succeed in a relationship and time is only the factor

beauty as said, is really in the eye of the beholder, you just need to believe in this...
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I didn't realize how suicidal bitter my writing was. Hehe.. Haiyya that signature just for fun only la.. I change it frequently because I like it to be change once in a while, Im a designer and I love doing emo-design, not means Im suicidal. I'm way past beyond that stage. tongue.gif Okayla I change it later. let me design something 1st..


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post Mar 7 2009, 12:25 PM

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Whatever la pein...kamu memang bijak bermain kata.

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post Mar 10 2009, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(snake1983 @ Mar 8 2009, 04:40 AM)
Sorry nothing can be state as aftermath, Are you telling people do not try anything which will not going to benefit yourself by confessing toward someone you really care in your life even you fail from it? if yes then Sorry I'm going disagree against it!

I won't consider much about whether worth or not worth to try it out, you will never success in anything if you think so much into what're the "aftermath" or been rejected. plain simple logically way learn from mistakes and carry on or try your best to succeed it!
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It's true that never try then you'll never know. But I just don't want people who have the same tendencies/traits/characteristics like me back then to be in a state of self distruct time bomb or worse, became a stalker / psychopath as a result of rejection from a friend that they truly became infatuated with. People like these (sorry) should be restrain from ever confessing if they know deep inside their hearts that rejection is NOT an option for them, and what are they capable of after that..Thank God that I've come down to my senses and finally live with it ( took me a whole year though), but let say if I wasn't, I'm guessing you'd be reading about a serial rapist / psycopath at large in southern Malaysia..
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QUOTE(Anni @ Mar 10 2009, 09:34 AM)
wow you need physical therapy. Yes it hurts being rejected, but it is just not strong enough to change a person into a psycho, and its not even close.

Judging from your posts, you look like a fragile man who can't deal with reality. Instead of moving on, you choose to contain yourself with painful feeling and more likely lead to negetive personality change.
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That was me back then. When I was infatuated and too drowned with my feelings, and to be honest I wasn't prepare mentally for her rejection. As far as I'm concern (and dreamed), I was seriously gonna make it. And to make it worst, her rejection wasn't a kind one, and that coming from a friend believe it or not.

Now I'm okay and moving on with life dear sir. I just use my worst experience so that people "like me" might learn something from it.
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QUOTE(Anni @ Mar 10 2009, 12:28 PM)
Glad to know that you are alright, you got an ironic siggy tho.
I been in the situation like you did. I felt like I was gonna make it too, but ended up being hit hard. The world was grey and all the shit but never once I thought about doing something stupid.

I got over it after months. Guess what? The girl didn't mind what happened and still sees me as a part of her life, as a best friend. However, my love blindfold was unfolded and I only see the bad sides of her. No I no longer want to spend time with her nor tolarance any of her shit. Not gonna hide my true personality and honest intention.

In the end I ended up losing a best friend, but I didn't have any intention of saving it nor i regreted my actions. I am glad I confeseed and ended my silly dream with her. If i did not do it back then, I am positive that I will regret on wasting my life on her.

I see no consequences on confessing to love one. You either make out with her or you don't. And you have no idea what is coming in the future. Confess is never a wrong move.

I am sure that the person wants more than best friend if he/she is ready to confess. Holding back isn't the true intention and best friend means only friend. Afraid of losing her? No she ain't yours, what you got to lose?
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You're right, once we crossed that line, the friendship is at stake. And by the way that siggy is just for the fun of it. I always change it, im a designer and i love creating emo n goth design. will change to another one shortly. perhaps my fav band Kamelot or Daughtry. Haha...
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QUOTE(Kagekiyo @ Mar 10 2009, 04:58 PM)
I'll be surprised if anyone (especially the idiotic juvenille ones here can even process what you just typed) would actually learn anything from what you just layed out without having to resort to personal flaming that you are one hell of a sad a55.

Afterall, you wrote this based on your own personal experience. Be happy if even one soul can relate to it. Otherwise, don't even bother thinking that what you went through can speak volumes about the mass generalizations that gravitate around guys being lousy dating material or whatnot.
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Whatever.. this is Malaysia and last time I check, everyone is entitle to write stuff in internet, as long as ito doesn't provoke too much. And everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you don't agree, please do so but your make sure approach doesn't sound offensive, because it almost sounded like one. I'm not forcing anyone to accept ya, Mr Kegekiyo?..
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QUOTE(Dlim88 @ Mar 10 2009, 06:36 PM)
Good Advice  wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif
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Thanks but It's not actually an advice (depends on how you view it), I never intended to did that. Just something to think off.
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 31 2009, 01:35 PM)
a bump for a good article! biggrin.gif
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hehe thanks for the free bumps tongue.gif
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QUOTE(siles1991 @ Apr 13 2009, 06:48 PM)
Thanks for this thread TS this is really going to help me and everyone else who needs such advise and again thanks!
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I would not like to think it as an advice, but something to learn from my personal experience. Something to think off.
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post Apr 15 2009, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Apr 15 2009, 04:23 AM)
+1


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This is so so good...


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This post fills me with alpha!
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& thanks for the bumps anyway... whistling.gif

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