Everytime, someone fall sick due to dengue or malaria........it's the BHs and that's why I always encourage fellow BH owners to educate neighbours of the facts that mosquitoes and flies are food for the swiftlets and infact, they help to prevent the spread of illness cause by pests.
Breeding grounds for mosquitoes and flies are feeding ground during fledgling of these deadly pests.

If your neighbours understand the facts about the swiftlets, they will be the protectors for the swiftlets, too and the raayat will encourage BHs near their houses. "Ada Walet, Tiada Dengue" is the new slogan for us and the government save money and using swiftlets to control these deadly diseases is environmental friendly cos chemical spraying or fogging not ony cause harm to predators of pests like frogs and lizards but also human being in the long run. Sooner or later, human didn't die or Dengue but from these chemical inhaling causing lung or maybe cancer. Beware!!!!!!! Just leave your mosquitoes problem to the swiftlets cos they are mosquitoes exterminators!!!!!!!!

So, all together. " ADA WALET, TIADA DENGUE"

there were myths that burning down trees, bushes and even rubbish can reduce the dengue cases . so everytime when dengue season, this kampung folks will burn to smoke their area.

does anybody know when is the Selangor merchant meeting. seems like nobody know where and when it's held right?

While surveying among farmers on the number of shopfarms in Malaysia, a lot of them who do buz in the ground floor of the shopfarm had said that their buz are not doing well at all for the past 5 years.

Most of them said that if not because of the income that they collected from the upper floor farm, they will not be able to sustain the buz and pay salary of their workers and make payment of elec, water, cukai pintu n etc.


average they employed about two workers to help out in the ground floor shop. so, with estimated about 50% of them operating buz in their shop n upper floor converted into swiftlet farm. the total number of local workers that they employ is 120,000.

and if the govt really think that swiftlet farms only benefit farmers.....U better think twice.


Those officers in charge of the 1GP better go ask the nation Economy Adviser, what can we do with these group of malaysians that are mostly in rural area? can we find them jobs? can we do something to push up the local town economy so that their buz can survive?

NO!!!....its been liked that for over 5 or 8 years !!!.... the rural area economy is a piece of shit!!!

we used to do good buz when all of the factory workers are been paid good salary with OT and they can afford just about anything, be it new bicycle, new bikes, new cars, new shirts n etc. They are the biggest customer range that we have but they disappeared overnight when factory started to close down, no OT, n most of them are now unemployed.


N the shrinking FDI for the past 5 years means no new investment capital coming from abroad !!...how are we going to improve the local town economy?


and one more thing, what will happened with the aging folks in rural area?? if they got swiftlet farms, they don't have to worry about their future when they get older...and this mean the govt don't have to worry about how to sustain these group of malaysians, they are self sustainable!!.



so, better think properly before doing anything hastily for the sake of fast cash but losing over 10% of the votes that u can easily get for the rest of ur Political Life!!


i am sure u guys can read ENglish as most of u are highly educated and graduated from England and speak fluent england.

You can be sure the local councils know the number.

Many councils have already worked out the following,

Max. fine for each house for not submitting plans, illegal extension etc. 20x plan fees.
Yearly income from licenses applicable to each department/authority.

Fines for dirty premises, mosquito larvae, cockroaches, rats, not forgetting noise pollution etc.

Late payment fees.

Conversion of residential or non commercial to commercial fees

Additional assessment for commercial premises. 10% ++ of rentable value

Yes, the local councils would like very much to collect the millions !

Unfortunately, there have been too many complaints and councils cannot issue licenses due to mass disapproval.

There is no need to highlight the numbers, council already knows, I have seen the register for Penang Seberang Perai Selatan and allowing the current operators to go ahead is worth millions to MPSP.

When the past head of buildings was questioned on the fees charged by MPSP compared to other councils, (in one of the seminars a few years ago) he answered "We are cleverer!" All the other councils are now aware of the possibility to charge these fees.

Go ahead and highlight the price of nests and council might get greedier.

does anybody know when is the Selangor merchant meeting. seems like nobody know where and when it's held right?

Hackwire,
I understand it as the AGM of the Malaysian Federation of Associations of Birds Nests Merchants.
Some local BH association also are members of this 'umbrella' association.
Each member association is eligible to send 3 representatives of the local associations to the AGM.
As such you need to be a member of a local association first.
Unc WW,
Pls correct if my understanding is wrong.

oh Kay! Thanks Cergau.
remind me of the hong kong movie Election..

who's playing Leung Kar Fai and who is yam tat Wah ?

time to pass the baton. (kidding , hope the associations will change and use the technology for their advantage next time)

This post has been edited by hackwire: Apr 13 2010, 05:00 PM

If you are taking about the Federal Association, I will try to let you know the details by tomorrow when I get hold of a copy of the AGM notice. As I know, the meeting is held at Sunway, KL on 30/04/2010 at 2.30pm. I may try to be a voting member attending the AGM.

If anyone going, be seeing you there..............

---

Added on April 13, 2010, 7:16 pmYou are right and since my local Association is a member Associations, I may join in. If your local Association is a member, you may be a voting delegate without being a member if your Association allow you to represent them as there is no clause to prevent you representing a member Association.






This post has been edited by West Wing: Apr 13 2010, 07:16 PM

hi m newbie here,just ask how much to build a swiflet in selangor
size: 30'w x 80'lx12'ht(3storey)?

read previous postings!

average is RM35-40 RM psf construction cost and another RM8 psf for installation of timber and sound system and consultancy.

all in all RM50.00 psf tops for standalone

Bring it on!
They are being chicken and not publishing rebuttals and updates on their blog!

Dear All,

FYI.

http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.a...rt=0415lk01.txt

老店改建3層養燕
恐影響環境衛生建築結構

報導：郭貞黎
叻思老街場火車頭街


叻思的百年老街場─火車頭街，在3年前開始面對養燕屋“入侵”問題，從原有一間可能會增加至3間。

（叻思14日訊）百年老建築物，成養燕業者目標，將兩層店屋改建為3層樓，叻思老街場─火車頭街居民和商家擔心養燕屋林立，環境衛生受影響，及擔心老建築結構的安全。

百年建築物

叻思老街場─火車頭街百年雙層老建築物有兩排共38間，仍有人居住，大部分是老居民，住在老店樓上，仍開店做生意的店舖只有寥寥幾間。

當地居民向《中國報》記者指出，當地首間養燕屋是于3年前設立。

居民投訴說，養燕者將原有兩層樓老建築物改建為3層樓。

首間燕屋3年前操作

當地商民最近發現，養燕業者再購下其中兩個單位，其中一間已于上週開始進行裝修工作，讓居民和商家擔心加劇目前所面對的問題。

他們申訴說，自首間養燕屋于3年前開始操作后，為當地帶來許多問題，如鳥糞臭味、噪音、衛生等，影響整個居住環境。

“去年，這裡曾發生基孔肯雅症，當時有許多居民不管老小患上基孔症。如果養燕活動不好好處理，我們擔心會面對病菌威脅。”

他們也申訴養燕屋的裝修工程為左鄰右舍的建築物造成破壞，尤其是下雨時，雨水也從牆壁流入，讓居民們怨聲載道。

他們說，該處的2層樓店屋屬舊建築物，當年興建時並沒有打地基，他們擔心將會對建築物的結構造影響。

“養燕屋三層樓高，這裡的地基如何能承受，讓我們非常擔心安全的問題。”

同時，當地居民不曾見過該名養燕業者，只有員工出入。

燕屋不應建在住宅區
黃冠文促州政府檢討


黃冠文（左3）在居民、商家和叻思新村聯邦村長李亞端（左2）陪同下，巡視一間養燕屋的情況。

馬華新古毛區州議員黃冠文促請雪州政府和烏雪縣議會，檢討養燕業的活動。

他認為養燕業不應該在住宅區設立，以免為居民衍生許多問題。

黃冠文也是烏雪區會主席，他說，他鼓勵養燕業活動，但養燕屋應設立在較偏僻地方，而不是設在住宅區。

他說，他日前接到叻思火車頭街的民和商家投訴，不但投訴養燕屋帶來問題，也擔心當地會成為養燕屋集中地。

他指出，他關注居民所面對的問題，希望當地縣議員協助居民，解決養燕屋所帶來的問題。

他說，居民除了擔心環境衛生受影響，也擔心老舊建築物的結構安全，尤其是在沒有打椿情況下，將兩層老建築物增建至3層樓高，其建築結構是否穩固等問題皆需要解決。

“州政府和縣議會應該檢討養燕指南，應該規定養燕屋不可設住宅區，包括必須要獲得鄰居們的同意，不要每次是講而已。”

駕名車人士探聽屋價
恐吸引更多養燕者

叻思居民指出，隨著燕屋設立，吸引了許多駕著豪華房車人士到來，向當地居民探听屋價！

他們說，上述情況是隨著第一間養燕屋設立后，相信是該養燕屋吸引了許多燕子，讓許多業者有意在該處設立更多養燕屋。

“之前，曾有人駕著豪華房車來問我們，到底這裡的單位多少錢。我們擔心會吸引更多養燕者來到，讓養燕屋有如雨后春筍般的林立。”

鳥糞傳染病菌
★居民鄭金標

隨養養燕業活動開始時，引來大量燕子，燕子的糞便相當臭，我們擔心會有病菌傳染問題，也擔心環境衛生受破壞。

去年這裡居民才面對基孔症威脅，我們擔心大量的鳥類在本地出沒，會帶來其他的病症，威脅居民健康。

擔心電線短路
★居民林佩娥

這裡都是上百年老店，養燕業者將單位改為三層樓，我們擔心排建築屋結構受到影響。

我們也發現對方亂亂拉電，直接從電柱處銜接電線到建築物，我們也擔心引發電線短路的問題。

擔心燕屋增多
★店主姚志洪

隨著業主于上個星期，在其商店旁單位進行裝修工程，準備作為養燕用途后，才獲知又要設立養燕屋。

我們擔心再多一間養燕屋，這裡將成為養燕屋集中地，燕屋會越來越多。

在裝修工程開始后，我居住單位就開始面對漏水問題，尤其是在下雨時，雨水會從木板牆壁流入，連木板牆壁也變形。

---

Added on April 15, 2010, 2:13 pmI also seeing some BH in Klang area which those BH is less birds are having very loud sound (can considered noise) which believe trying to attract birds into their BH, which obviously failed cause i also seeing the next 2 block BH are having more birds but the sound is much lower and acceptable.

This post has been edited by Ivan Ho: Apr 15 2010, 02:13 PM

Can someone do a translation please?
Thks

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...%3D0415lk01.txt

htc,
thks

Be considerate and peaceful cos the whole industry future @ towns all depend on how the present BH owners preform esp. the new comers trying hard to get birds by increasing the sound, day and night recommended by their CON-sultants and if we aren't doing all the right things; habis semua, all because some bad APPLES, semua kena buang pulau.............. and if we compromised and take swift action against the bad ones ourself, we may survive this bad weather. We don't want the Authorities to throw at us a big pile of complaints caused by BAD APPLES.

We need to learn from the swiftlet as they are peace loving creatures and if they should perish, it's all because of our selfishness i.e those FOOLs.

Tolong tolong jaga rumah burung anda supaya semua boleh dapat hidup bersama secara Aman dan Makmur. Jangan buat bising bising dan kacau keamanan.

---

Added on April 15, 2010, 8:26 pm
http://noswiftlethousesingeorgetown.blogsp...03/contact.html

I am glad that he choose to publish my comments and better if he listen to what I posted and email me on the subject" swiftlets'. By the time that I am finished with him, he shall be my good friend and also that of the swiftlets.

Ishaallah

This post has been edited by West Wing: Apr 15 2010, 08:26 PM

Maybe anti birds activist do not know that 1kg is rm 4000 plus. 1kg of honey is from rm 20 to 80 . With the money, noise pollution can be solve one. Just install soundproof and Italian fascina window frame to seal the window tight. I don't know y we can tolerate loud noise created by human in the early hours at 5 n other of the time, cars lorries etc . I know these place at gurney every weekend racing n created noises from 1 to 4 am . Guess wat, nobody makes a hoo har or complaint at all. Wat the mathafackar is this. Farrk hypocrates .

http://www.slideshare.net/yongkangbirdnest...lets-specialist

thank you tuckfook for sharing th slideshow to the new guys.
west wing, did the anti swiftlet guy make any contact to you that after commented in his blog?
i wonder why must people be so coward to hide behind a blog or twitter and no nuts about anytthing but want to garner for support. how is he going to come out and give a public talk in the future if his base is truth? how far is he willing to go with this? he cannot even find a platform to speak the truth or even a place for hearing out the problem of the people. do you think he can go far? i doubt so if he remain continue to be the remain of the dead carcass.

---

Added on April 17, 2010, 2:09 pmanyone heard about the authorities clamping down traders in the Ampcorp Mall flea market recently.
i heard the MPSJ created such a ruckus like a gangster in the TV ads.


This post has been edited by hackwire: Apr 17 2010, 02:09 PM

Hello West Wing,

We are the creators of http://noswiftlethousesingeorgetown.blogspot.com/

Thank you for providing comments on the blog. As you know, your comment was published.

The goal of the blog is to lobby for the removal of swiftlet houses from urban and residential areas, but everyone is welcome to provide comments. All comments will be published.

We support open discussion on this issue, as all of you do, so please help to continue this debate on this forum and on our blog.

Thank you