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 V2. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus

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Cergau
post Mar 6 2010, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(Lucas 1 @ Mar 5 2010, 07:06 PM)
It is better to have all the holes exposed so we know how to patch them with the best solution rather than let them hidden and become booby traps that kill us later.


Added on March 5, 2010, 10:37 pm

Understand till todate it is between 4.2 to 4.5/kg for the 1st grade.
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holes exposed, patch them, best solution, booby
reminds me of a riddle-lah
If boring riddle, quickly change subject so I can comment again pls notworthy.gif
Otherwise I will find more boring riddles to post here or ask the birdnest price every 2 hrs

THIS USEFUL TOOL, COMMONLY FOUND IN THE RANGE OF 8
INCHES LONG. THE FUNCTIONING OF WHICH IS ENJOYED BY
MEMBERS OF BOTH SEXES. IS USUALLY FOUND HUNG, DANGLING
LOOSELY, READY FOR INSTANT ACTION. IT BOASTS OF A CLUMP
OF LITTLE HAIRY THINGS AT ONE END AND SMALL HOLE AT THE
OTHER. IN USE, IT IS INSERTED, ALMOST ALWAYS WILLINGLY,
SOMETIMES SLOWLY, SOMETIMES QUICKLY, INTO A WARM,
FLESHY, MOIST OPENING WHERE IT IS THRUST IN AND DRAWN OUT
AGAIN AND AGAIN MANY TIMES IN SUCCESSION, OFTEN QUICKLY
AND ACCOMPANIED BY SQUIRMING BODILY MOVEMENTS.
ANYONE FOUND LISTENING IN WILL MOST SURELY RECOGNIZE
THE RHYTHMIC, PULSING SOUND, RESULTING FROM THE WELL
LUBRICATED MOVEMENTS. WHEN FINALLY WITHDRAWN, IT
LEAVES BEHIND A JUICY, FROTHY, STICKY WHITE SUBSTANCE,
SOME OF WHICH WILL NEED CLEANING FROM THE OUTER
SURFACES OF THE OPENING AND SOME OF FROM ITS LONG
GLISTENING SHAFT. AFTER EVERYTHING IS DONE AND THE
FLOWING AND CLEANSING LIQUIDS HAVE CEASED EMENATING, IT
IS RETURNED TO ITS FREELY HANGING STATE OF REST, READY
FOR YET ANOTHER BIT OF ACTION, HOPEFULLY REACHING ITS
BRISTLING CLIMAX TWICE OR THREE TIMES A DAY, BUT OFTEN
MUCH LESS.

WHAT AM I???????
hackwire
post Mar 6 2010, 09:38 AM

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Ha ha. I know. Banana ice cream served with condiments of bird nest topping on the other end covered with white egg .
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post Mar 6 2010, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Mar 6 2010, 09:38 AM)
Ha ha. I know. Banana ice cream served with condiments of bird nest topping on the other end covered with white egg .
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Close but not there yet.
A clue...
What you described is foreplay to the answer.
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post Mar 6 2010, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Cergau @ Mar 6 2010, 11:13 AM)
Close but not there yet.
A clue...
What you described is foreplay to the answer.
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sometimes i trim the hairy bit so that it is stiffer and use it to satisfy the itch that cannot be reached.........extremely satisfying.......better than sex
it can be used for cleaning birds nest too...the white nest kind!
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post Mar 6 2010, 11:11 AM

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Don't know. Pm me the answer. When our next meeting? Consider there is no 1gp draft and it's all hearsay, y state authority so Kay poh? I mean did they received any stop order from federal? So if some just say they are going to table something, all current licensing can't be given?
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post Mar 6 2010, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(tomytan @ Mar 6 2010, 11:10 AM)
sometimes i trim the hairy bit so that it is stiffer and use it  to satisfy the itch that cannot be reached.........extremely satisfying.......better than sex
  it can be used for cleaning birds nest too...the white nest kind!
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Added on March 6, 2010, 12:29 pm
QUOTE(hackwire @ Mar 6 2010, 11:11 AM)
Don't know. Pm me the answer. When our next meeting? Consider there is no 1gp draft and it's all hearsay, y state authority so Kay poh? I mean did they received any stop order from federal? So if some just say they are going to table something, all current licensing can't be given?
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If you buy me coffee anytime also can. If wanna save money we can talk here also lah.
If you want privacy, just PM me la darling.

Small small column, toll increase already loh at some hiways!

All kinds of rumours lah. I ask for document nobody can give. I also shy shy now.
Like that I sure die of hard attack and wont get to see the real 1GP.
If I dun die frm rumours now and see the 1GP.... then also die right away.
So how?

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natwah
post Mar 6 2010, 12:35 PM

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post Mar 6 2010, 12:47 PM

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Just for your understanding of BH,

1.With open ceiling type
a. All sound from the BH are diverted toward the sky and I even ensured the PBT group @ Seremban that even standing next to the BH, we will not hear any sound in 10K birds house as all the sound are shut off/filtered by the doors and the rest of the sound in the sky. You can only hear the sound once you are in the BH. This cannot be done with open window type.

2. All dirts and smell are enclosed and that there are no active wind inside the birdhouse so the dust and smell do not cause any problem to your neighbours unless your staircase is not properly cleaned. What I recommend is that you have air tight type of door ( like your fridge's door) to keep pollution in.

3. Best if we use the rear door to service the BH if we do have one and it will create lesser complaints which we do not want and anyway, back lane is never clean nor fresh.

4. Any shit or dirt found @ entrance will sooner or later drop into the BH and will not affect the neighbours and the good thing is that what we don't see, we don't complaint. If you do have a fish pond there, it will not be wasted, guano is good fish food. How many of us really look at the back of the restaurants that we eat and if we did, we would not go there again. They even hang their ducks and chickens to dry by the smelly drain.

5. I love to have a fish pool infront of the entrance as it will act as a filter for the dirt and smell as anything over the pond will drop into the pool to be eaten by the fishes and some fishes can grow to a kilo or two. Alas, this wasn't allow with the GP and I hope that they will consider if the pool is outside the BH as it is good for the environment as it act well as a filter and a buffer zone before the air reaches outside.....plus you can do your cleaning and bathing in the pool before going out of the BH.

Above are what I have done and experience and no lie. As always, my own personal comments on the matter only.


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post Mar 6 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(natwah @ Mar 6 2010, 12:35 PM)
tooth brush la
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Jawapan muktamat sungguh tepat.
Taniah!

Hadiah pemenang, drum roll
Hackwire gets to buy/make natwah his EBN banana split ice cream.
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post Mar 6 2010, 02:18 PM

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All these poor demented soul with all manner of frightful imaginings. In our fear we often find reason or reasons to hate. In our hate we cause hurt and harm and think we are doing good.

Poor chanK had to return to his vomit time and time again. The biblical metaphor of the dog returning to his vomit is so appropriate. Initially I doubted the metaphor until I reared 3 b i t c h e s. Dogs do return to their vomit and eat it with great relish and gusto.

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post Mar 6 2010, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(chiongguo @ Mar 6 2010, 02:18 PM)
All these poor demented soul with all manner of frightful imaginings. In our fear we often find reason or reasons to hate. In our hate we cause hurt and harm and think we are doing good.

Poor chanK had to return to his vomit time and time again. The biblical metaphor of the dog returning to his vomit is so appropriate. Initially I doubted the metaphor until I reared 3   b i t c h e s. Dogs do return to their vomit and eat it with great relish and gusto.
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Wah Chiongguo,
Took me 10 mins of googling to even start to understand your comments in yr 2nd para.
Heavy stuff man. biggrin.gif
Your comments may be misread or I may have misread.
You mean to say we are creatures of habit by nature. righto?

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post Mar 6 2010, 05:21 PM

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Rephrase : even if someone fall down, he still try to grab one handful of sands in his hand. why? for the sake of face mah!!.... blush.gif


but digging some more just for the sake of proofing urself is right will tarnish the whole industry...so, i stop here.

bro chioungua ....my dog, i suspect is going to disowned me too..

damn dog!!!...keep quiet...

good dog. whistling.gif


WHAT THE HACK....bloody boring keep talking about 1GP....lets start the bloody rusty engine again!... in the meantime enjoy ur school holiday weekend with ur family....hehe...

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ahwee1987
post Mar 6 2010, 07:21 PM

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to all sifu..

please comment the design for my BH

i want to build this BH at my grandparent agricul land.

i have few question about my design..

is the roving area too small?? i read forum saying tat minimum size is 12ftx12ft for roving area
is my entrance hole 11ftx10ft above the roof too big?
do i need to build a dog kennel entrance for the BH?

please give me comment..thanks


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post Mar 6 2010, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(ahwee1987 @ Mar 6 2010, 07:21 PM)
i have few question about my design..

is the roving area too small?? i read forum saying tat minimum size is 12ftx12ft for roving area
is my entrance hole 11ftx10ft above the roof too big?
do i need to build a dog kennel entrance for the BH?

please give me comment..thanks
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How come 12' x 12' ? Accordding to your building width it should be 12' x 22' right ? If I were u, I'll make it 15'x22'. Rule # 1, let the birds feels at home.

Both entrance holes are very BIG !!

If nearby BHs all using DK then follow them lor... but open roof is definitely license compliance in the future.

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post Mar 6 2010, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Mar 6 2010, 09:46 PM)
How come 12' x 12' ? Accordding to your building width  it should be 12' x 22' right ? If I were u, I'll make it 15'x22'. Rule # 1, let the birds feels at home.

Both entrance holes are very BIG !!

If nearby BHs all using DK then follow them lor... but open roof is definitely license compliance in the future.
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hi aeiou228

thanks for your comment..
i am the only standalone farm at tat area.
the entrance hole too big??
how big the entrance hole would u recommend??

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post Mar 7 2010, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(ahwee1987 @ Mar 6 2010, 11:32 PM)
hi aeiou228

thanks for your comment..
i am the only standalone farm at tat area.
the entrance hole too big??
how big the entrance hole  would u recommend??
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Based on your draft plan, I think your BH will be very very bright.

What is the direction and sunrise and sunset ?
The nesting room entrance hole can be 2'x4' first then slowly seal up accordingly to situations.
For 12'x22' roving area, my opinion is that it is not suitable for a center hole to the nesting room. Anyway, you can always open 3 holes first left, centre and right then seal up the less frequently used one. Unless you have a 15' x 22' roving area, where birds are more easy to maneuver to the center hole.

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Mar 7 2010, 12:01 AM)
Based on your draft plan, I think your BH will be very very bright.

What is the direction and sunrise and sunset ?
The nesting room entrance hole can be 2'x4' first then slowly seal up accordingly to situations.
For 12'x22' roving area, my opinion is that it is not suitable for a center hole to the nesting room. Anyway, you can always open 3 holes first left, centre and right then seal up the less frequently used one.
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sunrise on east and sunset on west...the left side of my drawing will face the west..
so the open roof i should open 3 hole first?how big the hole should be? 4x4ft??is it ok? for 3 hole? left ,center, and right??
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QUOTE(ahwee1987 @ Mar 7 2010, 12:07 AM)
sunrise on east and sunset on west...the left side of my drawing will face the west..
so the open roof i should open 3 hole first?how big the hole should be? 4x4ft??is it ok? for 3 hole? left ,center, and right??
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sunrise on east and sunset on west...the left side of my drawing will face the west..
Then no worry of direct sun light shining down the the ground floor. But your side wall will be very hot in the late evening. Better use insulation materials or light weight bricks on this side of the wall.

so the open roof i should open 3 hole first?how big the hole should be? 4x4ft??is it ok? for 3 hole? left ,center, and right??
No, not the open roof, I'm referring to nesting room opening.

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Mar 7 2010, 12:15 AM)
sunrise on east and sunset on west...the left side of my drawing will face the west..
Then no worry of direct sun light shining down the the ground floor. But your side wall will be very hot in the late evening. Better use insulation materials or light weight bricks on this side of the wall.


so the open roof i should open 3 hole first?how big the hole should be? 4x4ft??is it ok? for 3 hole? left ,center, and right??
No, not the open roof, I'm referring to nesting room opening.
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yeah..i plan to make a roof with insulation with it..but i donno how to draw using the google sketch.haha..

so the open roof size to the roving area the hole is ok right??or i need to reduce the size?

then i should have 3 holes of 2x4ft at the nesting room there right??

thanks dude..any more to critique?hehe..

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QUOTE(ahwee1987 @ Mar 7 2010, 12:25 AM)
so the open roof size to the roving area the hole is ok right??or i need to reduce the size?

then i should have 3 holes of 2x4ft at the nesting room there right??
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so the open roof size to the roving area the hole is ok right??or i need to reduce the size?
To me, I will reduce. Reducing the size can cut down the volume of rain water, brightness, air turbulence in the nesting room, lower humidity, etc etc

then i should have 3 holes of 2x4ft at the nesting room there right??
Well, no harm having more holes right ? whistling.gif when you can seal off the rest and keep the best hole.

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