Solution to our BHs' problems with the authorities

1. Convince the person in charge to venture into this industry and he will understand why we are so protective of the birds. You need to be in the industry to fully admire and appreciate the beauty of being a provider of sanctuaries for these wonderful birds which never demand but give.........

2. May it be MBs, YTPS, YABs or Ketua Kampung, get them into the industry and they surely and truly be pro swiftlet for the rest of their life.
I believe that that's what happened in neighbouring countries that the authorities are 100% behind the industry. Am I right?

3. A case history: We once had a reporter who was anti-BH and harassed us thru newspaper constantly until he become one of us and now, he is a key officer of our Association taking a very active role in protecting the interest of swiftlets in town.

4. WOW: Swiftlets Santuaries providers is just like asking someone to believe in GOD and only if he give himself a chance, he will never believe in GOD. Once he step into GOD's place and open his heart, he forever be sincere and true to GOD............and swiftlets are truly GOD's send Bird of wealth.

AMEN.....and by the away, I am not a Christian......

and with manufacturing industry heading to halt and auto industry lagging behind from thailand & indonesia, biotechnology industry lagging behind from singapore, tourism industry lagging behind from singapore...do we still want the swiftlet farming industry to lag behind from our neighbour???

Let me give my point of views in the matter of why nowaday, the industry seem to be slower down and that the birds population doesn't seem to increase.

1. The very fact that human became too greedy is when the goodness end....like in Indo, they are harvesting birdnests so fast that they never give the birds chances to reproduce and old birds do die of old age, diseases and other reasons. Surely, they are facing a decline in the harvesting of nests...........I have this feeling long ago if the Indo don't change their way of management and so will we to share the same faith as own neighbouring country. My BHs and my friends who follow my way of providing safe sanctuaries for the swiftlets are always on the increment of nests every year.

2. Due to the climate changes, lack of insects have cause a delay of breeding cycle in the bird only temporary and shall back to normal very soon.

3. Demand exceed supply is one of the main factors causing the present situation of not enough supply of the nests as China being the biggest market for the nests is growing too fast for the production of the nests and having said so, the buyers are paying high prices for the 1 finger or 2 fingers nest thus making the situation even worst.

4. Our government didn't help either by creating difficulties and problems to the industry causing uncertainty of future direction. With such uncertainty of future development, the BH owners will try to maximize income thus causing a no increase of new fledged birds....so a zero increment of number of birds.......possible a reduction due to death of birds.

5. Having a friendly GP will ensure the proper growth of the industry and increment of at least of 3 folds every years putting our export very soon at par with palm oil or any industry.
6. This industry still has hugh potential if manage and nurture well and if the conditions and climate allowed, Ishaallah, we will be successful.

As always, above are all my personal view on the swiftlets past, present and future.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Mar 9 2010, 12:32 PM

indonesians only harvest three time a year unlike here......

the industry is gone if u want to destroy it n to rebuild it....

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Added on March 9, 2010, 11:51 amthe officers thinking that the population is ever growing and by killing them, in no time there will still have a large population of swiftlets that they can start over with is very very wrong.......

This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 9 2010, 12:10 PM

Swiftlets are free birds and keeping them in captivity isn't going to solve any problem, you mark my words for it and those who try to do god's work will fail miserable.

Swiftlets come and go as they please and clearing the town BHs and moving to Eco isn't going to solve anything and we will lose all that have build up over the years and back to zero............and then, maybe we wouldn't be so lucky again cos the birds may decide that Malaysia was a wrong choice of residence and migrate to our neighbours like Laos, Thailand and Vietnam. Mind you, the swiftlet can really fly for 1000 miles at one time and the record show that they rest, sleep and eat in the sky......and they need our BHs to reproduce provided that our BHs are safe which our towns can provide.

To share is to learn.

i got few question..

does anyone consider a dual entries for their BH?
meaning to say having an Open Roof and Dog kernel entrance for the swiflet??

thanks

This short story is for the ecopark developers:-

Over the CNY, we went to one fancy sales office just to check out the price of new shoplots. Wow, never in our mind that new shoplots in this small town has 'risen' or more likely artificially inflated so high. Even secondary market only half their price. Probably they are targeting people from outstation. No town folks in their wildest wet dream going to fork out this amount for a new shoplots. Rental ROI cannot justify unless your calculator faulty. Or unless some crazy bird farmers like many in lowyatt ... LOL.

As we listened attentively to what the marketing guy, found out that they also owned the new 3-star hotel in the development. Oh, their hotel has made a complaint to the town council because of 'hygiene' problem. Some customers who are crazy enough to buy a few shoplots from them have converted the upper floor to become BHs. And their shoplots located many shops away from the hotel separated with a road some more. What more to complain as a developer?!

Ok, just listen to what more the developer going to say. Oh, you are planning to build 40 units of 3-4 stories BHs near the outskirt not far from here. Oh, oh, anti BHs in one hand, pro Bhs in another. Oh boy, in sane or what?!

As the town develops and expands, 5-10 yrs down the road those Bhs at the so call outskirt of the town going to locate next to the town again. So what are they going abt it then?! Go draft another new GP1 to relocate again? Go convert Bhs to resident flats?

Ok, good on you eco developers. With developers like this, who needs more enemies? []

Where is the location? What is the company's name? How much is the price for the new shop?

Continue with my previous post :

Even with the conservation efforts by experienced indonesian farmers to increase the swiftlet populations in their own farms, the population still drops by almost 80% in many area.


We are no longer gifted with migrating birds from indonesia and with the declining population both in indonesia and malaysia...any hasty decision by the govt officers to gives a deadline to whiten the whole industry is just plain STUPID!.

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Added on March 10, 2010, 8:29 am
You are facing a desparate crowds with nothing to loose....

Nothing is more important than our family rice bowls........

You are playing with FIRE !!!.....


Remember that!

This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 10 2010, 08:29 AM

You know the isa detention centre? Not far from there. Very prominent only one new hotel built on army land. New phase cost double (>700k-800k 3sty) compares to older ones (better location further down along Fajar-Tesco). Anyway, not to mention name for their free advert. Can pm you if you need more details.

Yes, please pm me the details, thanks.

At Kamunting Junction, near traders Hotel. In front is the Army camp. Behing Is Golf Resort. There are quite many Bh there. Bukit Jana.

Everybody knows it.

For me I won't buy .

This post has been edited by Semuabumi: Mar 10 2010, 10:51 PM

Must be another politician crony's project capitalizing on the 1GP situation lah.......

Well well well....

the bn price is now 4.8 4 3.8...

not due to high demand as the demand is normal...but

it is due to supply shortage in both indonesia n malaysia...


ever growing population that u don't have to worry about disrupting the existing population of swiftlets ??? Where the hell u get this idea from???

really STUPID if u think this way!!


Many ` Cow Ghost Snake God ' are coming out from their palaces and making a quick killing by buying chunks of big parcels of agri lands to build eco parks........guess they already read the 1GP and rushing to open new gold mines....

hahahaha....ends up the gold reserves are getting less n less..

good also, let them buy up the lands, build the farms and let more and more new investors kena...then they know our pain le....

black heart ohh???


This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 11 2010, 10:41 AM

chank,

such caustic remarks u make on the forum.

perhaps you are VERY miserable with life.

Opps, SB lets the bird out liau.

Because some 3-sty industrial lots in town selling like hotcakes >700K to mainly bh owners, they also want a bite and mark up the same or higher. But, but then their land is smaller and leasehold. And then, u want to make unnecessary and baseless complaint of so call unfound 'hygiene' issue of the BHs to force ppl to move. Which bh owners want to buy from you then, unless outsiders?

YEs..u are right i am miserable now...damn....i sold mine last week 4.6, n now just three days u tell me now selling 4.8?

damn!!...thts enough to cover my starbuck treatment for a year lah.....

EBN buyers are at door steps wanting to buy EBN but we are not going to harvest nest no matter what the price even the temptation is there as they are offering quite high a price. We will allow the chick to fledged, then we harvest cos we will be assured of min. 25% increment next time around. Seeing all those big white nests up there are really a temptation to pluck but a promise to the swiftlets is a promise that I will uphold and I never allow my birds to suffer nor mourn the losses of their offspring..... even if they take swifltets off the list of protected species.

Come May, we shall have plentiful at our dinning table........WW .......Wine and Women....Opp so sorry...just joking lah so don't feel offended my pretty ladies.



pssss...I have posted over 500 in 2 years and all here and I must have nothing better to do but loiter here...........honestly, I read my emails and most of the time, here. Must get me some better thing to do......or else bird feathers will start growing out from my buttock....and hopefully, birdnests too hahaha

This post has been edited by West Wing: Mar 11 2010, 05:33 PM

Uncle West Wing,
You may not know it, I have been reading your input from very early on.
So dun go saying spending your time here is a waste.
Your input reaches more than just a pair of ears but many more eyes.
I have learnt alot from your writing, especially when you have an opponent.
You are good enuff for another 100,000 postings, and you have even starting to joke on yr posting.
Maybe it's the global warming or something in the air, you are aging like wine.
So stay around and not go doing things in excess be it with things feathered or otherwise.
Like wine it shdnt be gulped down but savoured slowly. (not recommended in BHs).

This post has been edited by Cergau: Mar 11 2010, 06:37 PM

i think not outsiders but mostly new investors le...they think they can get back the money in no time...

one year got 300nests, n third year get back the return..

so, even one lot selling rm700k is cheap lah...

ROI is so damn good!.

where to get this kind of return?