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SUSKLX213
post Sep 11 2009, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(WereWolf84 @ Sep 10 2009, 09:55 PM)
LCD can last about 60,000 hours while plasma can last about 100,000 hours, which one do you think can last longer?  biggrin.gif  If your priority is movies, I strongly suggest you go for plasma, 42in Panasonic full HD plasma now selling at very affordable price
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r u sure ? no offense.
but my plasma dying under 4 years ....
some told me LCD has longer lifespan and some said plasma.
which one is it actually ?
i usually play games on my tv set ...
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post Sep 11 2009, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(KLX213 @ Sep 11 2009, 10:53 PM)
r u sure ? no offense.
but my plasma dying under 4 years ....
some told me LCD has longer lifespan and some said plasma.
which one is it actually ?
i usually play games on my tv set ...
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LCD panel last longer than plasma but the backlight might go first..
backlight also got many differences, CCFL, HCFL, white LED, RGB LED... all with different lifespans

plasma's life is rated as how long it reaches half brightness....
but it has lots of high voltage circuits required to drive the panel.. those might fail earlier..

so no clear cut answer..
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post Sep 12 2009, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 11 2009, 11:59 PM)
LCD panel last longer than plasma but the backlight might go first..
backlight also got many differences, CCFL, HCFL, white LED, RGB LED... all with different lifespans

plasma's life is rated as how long it reaches half brightness....
but it has lots of high voltage circuits required to drive the panel.. those might fail earlier..

so no clear cut answer..
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i need some suggestion ...
my 42" plasma will appear some blistering dot after about 1.30 hours using .

1) i been asking at the LG service center, it cost RM1000 to repair.

2) or should i buy a new 42" LCD which cost about RM3500 ?

Goal : have to last at least 5 years.

p/s: im in a budget sweat.gif

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post Sep 12 2009, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(KLX213 @ Sep 12 2009, 01:20 AM)
i need some suggestion ...
my 42" plasma will appear some blistering dot after about 1.30 hours using .

1) i been asking at the LG service center, it cost RM1000 to repair.

2) or should i buy a new 42" LCD which cost about RM3500 ?

Goal : have to last at least 5 years.

p/s: im in a budget    sweat.gif
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RM3.5k? Try look at Panasonic Full HD Plasma 42S10.

IMO, looking at the lifespan of the TV has little meaning, be it 60,000 hours or 100,000 hours. Even if you watch your TV for 8 hours everyday, 60,000 hours is going to last you for 20 years, and I think there is an extremely high chance that some other parts in your TV other than the panel will experience some problem during that 20 years.

Again, IMO, if you want a headache / heartache free period with your TV be it for only 5 years, then it will be more pratical to try those more reputable brand in terms of built quality and after sales service. For example, both the J country P brand and the K country L brand are claiming 100k hours or more for their Plasma, but ask around, the L brand products always seems to experience some problems after shorter period of use, and their service really sxxks. vmad.gif mad.gif

And for the record, I had good experience with the L brand home appliances, such as fridge, washing machine. So I went on to buy their AV products (after testing out the plasma, which I think has better PQ than the P brand equivalent some time ago). But their technical service vmad.gif mad.gif . Cannot even detect the source of the problem and keep saying problem has been fixed, and when I tested it myself, problem still there blink.gif doh.gif (even product still under warranty)

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post Sep 12 2009, 10:41 AM

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Yea, all of the plasma and LCD claiming their Tv can last for at least 10 years i doubt that. i bought an another plasma for my grandma last month because the price is good, hopefully will last at least 5 year.
What was the price of Panasonic Full HD Plasma 42S10 ?
im not looking for plasma since i saw most of the game shop demo using LCD, i think there must a reason for them ...
so what u think should go repair or buying a new LCD ?
any good 42" LCD within RM3500 ?

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 10 2009, 07:21 PM)
So how much are you paying for the additional 2 years from him?
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3k for 3YR...din give a price for 5YR. Prolly cos din ask explicitly smile.gif
Will ask now!
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post Sep 12 2009, 11:13 AM

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prices are dropping. Get 5year waranty. After that if kaput can buy another in year 2014 for 1-2k. My 2 cents.
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I dont believe those figures at all. I have a IPS LCD monitor that die on me after 3years. Even if I on it 24/7, it is still below 10,000 hours.

How do you use it is also important. I do think the ventilation is also essential so that it does not overheat and shorten the life of the component.
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post Sep 12 2009, 12:58 PM

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read somewhere tat lcd lifespan is only about 4 years max...coz not all the components they use in it is good. like plasma, even though the lamp may last longer, other components in it might just die prematurely...

sad but true.

i guess we'd all better go back to the bulky old crt...that one very reliable...tongue.gif


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QUOTE(silbii @ Sep 12 2009, 12:58 PM)
read somewhere tat lcd lifespan is only about 4 years max...coz not all the components they use in it is good. like plasma, even though the lamp may last longer, other components in it might just die prematurely...

sad but true.

i guess we'd all better go back to the bulky old crt...that one very reliable...tongue.gif
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True, but like car engine la, the panel is the main component and the heart of a TV, so have to last the longest. Other smaller (and relatively cheaper) parts - repair and replace lor.
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Anyone tell me which one is better choice?

1. Sharp A66M
2. Sharp A77M
3. Panasonic 42S10K
4. Samsung B610

Mainly for Movie, Astro and PS3.

Please give some advice. Thanks.
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go for plasma.....
42S10K will be the right choice....
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post Sep 14 2009, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(muncee @ Sep 13 2009, 11:01 AM)
go for plasma.....
42S10K will be the right choice....
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I'm quite interested about the Panasonic Plasma also, since about 3k can get 42".

But I went for one of the Electrical Chain shop, the Salesman told me, most of the time Plasma is the one having defect or problem, based on their returned record. And he said: "If Plasma is so good, then most of the shop will display Plasma already, where can see LCD still around. Plasma can survive is due to Astro only."

Wonder how true is this statement.....? rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(dannyw @ Sep 14 2009, 02:43 PM)
I'm quite interested about the Panasonic Plasma also, since about 3k can get 42".

But I went for one of the Electrical Chain shop, the Salesman told me, most of the time Plasma is the one having defect or problem, based on their returned record. And he said: "If Plasma is so good, then most of the shop will display Plasma already, where can see LCD still around. Plasma can survive is due to Astro only."

Wonder how true is this statement.....? rclxub.gif
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LCDs are traditionally more popular due to their cheaper pricing and large selections for smaller screen sizes (>42"). Nothing to do with TV quality.

BTW, what electrical chain is that?
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post Sep 14 2009, 09:00 PM

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It's all due to production costs.

Plasma manufacturing costs will be too expensive if the size is anything less than 42". So that's why you don't see any small ones from the 20 to 37"

Whereas for LCD production cost it is the direct opposite of Plasma. Only recently these couple of years the production cost has lowered and now you are able to see LCD's bigger than 42" but the cost has not significantly reduced yet. Just comparable but not below yet.
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QUOTE(braveheart @ Sep 14 2009, 09:00 PM)
It's all due to production costs.

Plasma manufacturing costs will be too expensive if the size is anything less than 42". So that's why you don't see any small ones from the 20 to 37"

Whereas for LCD production cost it is the direct opposite of Plasma. Only recently these couple of years the production cost has lowered and now you are able to see LCD's bigger than 42" but the cost has not significantly reduced yet. Just comparable but not below yet.
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I am not too sure about the cost too high for smaller plasma screen. I believe its the physical limitations of plasma technology that prohibits the screen size going smaller. Because plasma screens a made up of very small individual gas fill chambers that glow and it just cannot be made too small or else it will not glow bright enough.....just my opinion.
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Nowadays, don't believe thing can last long as stated by manufacturer, my 37" Philips LCD died after slightly over 3 yrs and luckily it could not be repaired and I got some $$ back since I have 5 yrs warranty.
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Sep 14 2009, 09:27 PM)
I am not too sure about the cost too high for smaller plasma screen.  I believe its the physical limitations of plasma technology that prohibits the screen size going smaller.  Because plasma screens a made up of very small individual gas fill chambers that glow and it just cannot be made too small or else it will not glow bright enough.....just my opinion.
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there is 32inch plasma.. it's doable.. but costs too high to sell at current 32inch prices.. ..
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QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Sep 14 2009, 09:27 PM)
Nowadays, don't believe thing can last long as stated by manufacturer, my 37" Philips LCD died after slightly over 3 yrs and luckily it could not be repaired and I got some $$ back since I have 5 yrs warranty.
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5 years warranty? nice. it must cost a bomb last time to pay for this extended warranty. but good investment there. i guess all these new technologies are meant for long run use...coz they just depreciate faster than everything else.
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Sep 14 2009, 06:14 PM)
LCDs are traditionally more popular due to their cheaper pricing and large selections for smaller screen sizes (>42").  Nothing to do with TV quality.

BTW, what electrical chain is that?
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Is SH, they are having a promotion for Sharp 37' LCD, abt 2.5~2.6k if not mistaken. If going to choose LCD, my budget only can reach 37' LCD. 32' is really too small.

I notice Panasonic have 2 model of 37' LCD. One with Motion 100Hz one without. The price different is few hundred. Again, according to the Salesman, there is no different for 100Hz in LCD, which our eye can't tell the different.
In CRT yes, because I'm using Panasonic 29' CRT 100Hz Progressive Scan, that was very good result and picture quality.
I have no exprience LCD TV, can anyone clarify?


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