Facial Skin Care, discussions, recommendations and reviews
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 Dec 24 2008, 02:41 PM, updated 17y ago
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WHat kind of steps do you take for your face? Do you use a lot of face wash, mask and stuff like that?? I only use the basic 3 step but feel like not good enough..Is there any further stuff u guys use? Got any effect? Share plz
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Dec 24 2008, 02:57 PM
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i dont need use alot of skin care product i just use shampoo to wash my face when bathing and my face is still white/smooth/healthy...but got some pimples tho..
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Dec 24 2008, 02:58 PM
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i din use any skin care le
lazy to do so Added on December 24, 2008, 3:06 pmbut i see my mom using the cetaphil product quite ok ooo This post has been edited by princezs: Dec 24 2008, 03:06 PM |
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Dec 24 2008, 03:15 PM
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go skin centre every 2 months
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Dec 24 2008, 07:21 PM
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Dad uses soap when he was young. And he rarely get a pimple on his face. I'm using L'Oreal's deep exp. gel wash. @_@
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Dec 25 2008, 12:20 AM
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Well, cheapo Clean and Clear Deep Action Cleanser is perfect for me. Got pimples just once in a while. and yeah, try to exercise regularly as it can prevent pimples...well...at least for me...lol.
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Dec 25 2008, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(ImanAzlan @ Dec 25 2008, 12:20 AM) Got pimples just once in a while. and yeah, try to exercise regularly as it can prevent pimples...well...at least for me...lol. i 2nd tat!   |
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Dec 26 2008, 08:55 AM
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y excercse can prevent pimple?? then if do sit up every night can work?
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Dec 26 2008, 09:01 AM
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wash face everytime before sleep
wash face everytime sweat change pillow case, and bedsheet often (3 days once) clean your fan every 1 week dont sleep late if intend to awake late keep your face dry ... drink alot of water careful when you do exercise make sure drink alot of water if not pimple will come out instead lol |
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Dec 26 2008, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ Dec 26 2008, 09:01 AM) wash face everytime before sleep thanks for your tips. wash face everytime sweat change pillow case, and bedsheet often (3 days once) clean your fan every 1 week dont sleep late if intend to awake late keep your face dry ... drink alot of water careful when you do exercise make sure drink alot of water if not pimple will come out instead lol  |
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Jan 13 2009, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE(f4tE @ Dec 24 2008, 02:41 PM) WHat kind of steps do you take for your face? Do you use a lot of face wash, mask and stuff like that?? I only use the basic 3 step but feel like not good enough..Is there any further stuff u guys use? Got any effect? Share plz If me, face wash which include antibacteria + oil + white foaming cleaser twice a day and avoid pressing any pimples on my face. And and toner |
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Jan 15 2009, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(kailzer @ Jan 13 2009, 01:14 AM) If me, face wash which include antibacteria + oil + white foaming cleaser twice a day and avoid pressing any pimples on my face. And and toner use anti dandruff shampoo..since dandruff can cause breakout too..try to detox...like fasting. etc ...when u detox..ur skin looks healthier... detox - colon cleansing - exercise.. - massage - hot water bath - saune...etc... dont touch ur face, wash your hand regulary...change ur towel,dry it out once u use it.. |
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Jan 18 2009, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(boykhan84 @ Jan 15 2009, 03:32 PM) use anti dandruff shampoo..since dandruff can cause breakout too.. Duh, what are you? Oh no wait, wait, wait...try to detox...like fasting. etc ...when u detox..ur skin looks healthier... detox - colon cleansing - exercise.. - massage - hot water bath - saune...etc... dont touch ur face, wash your hand regulary...change ur towel,dry it out once u use it.. You trying to be funny?  |
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Jan 19 2009, 08:38 AM
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hahahah
LAWLLL neway..dun wash your face with shampoo or soap...its dangerous lerr |
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Jan 19 2009, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(Hackezkk @ Jan 19 2009, 08:38 AM) hahahah Why? Care to explain? LAWLLL neway..dun wash your face with shampoo or soap...its dangerous lerr |
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Jan 19 2009, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(kailzer @ Jan 19 2009, 08:17 PM) Why? Care to explain? er well firstly shampoo is specially forulated for your hair, therefore it would not be advisable to use it on the face.. the skin on the face is also very sensitive, and soap is not delicate therefore may cause your face to dry up and others.. |
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Jan 19 2009, 10:16 PM
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I use Nivea for Men since 2 years ago. I mean for the brand and value for money this has to be it. There is definitely improvement here and there. I used Ginvera last time and its ok. But good improvement seems to be with Nivea. I wanted to try Loreal Man Expert, but the price is such a put off. U know la regular guys buying power. But Metro sexual guys different story. heheh
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Jan 28 2009, 01:53 PM
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anyone using Biotherm Pour Homme?..Lancome Homme?
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Jan 28 2009, 05:31 PM
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go n try lab series..
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Jan 28 2009, 08:30 PM
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pimple ??? nah.... only had some while going thru puberty. now im 19 and only have to worry about blackheads on the nose! haha
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Jan 30 2009, 04:16 PM
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any recomendation for what to use after a day of heavy sports (sweating)?
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Jan 30 2009, 04:25 PM
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I just use one
Garnier Whitening Facial Cleanser and Orang Kampong Papaya Soap whoch RM5 and RM2.5 respectively. not more than a week my face become fairer and smoother  Added on January 30, 2009, 4:26 pm QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ Jan 30 2009, 04:16 PM) any recomendation for what to use after a day of heavy sports (sweating)? I do heavy sport too,like training football everyday.I just use these two products and it seems to be work ,but it quite sting when ur sweating. This post has been edited by QD_buyer: Jan 30 2009, 04:26 PM |
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Jan 31 2009, 04:37 PM
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My mum bought for me shiseido for men face wash, toner and moisturiser. I tried out the trial pack and it seemed to be good. Haven't used the pack she bought for me yet.
Still using Nivea for men face wash most of the time. Added on January 31, 2009, 4:41 pm QUOTE(QD_buyer @ Jan 30 2009, 04:25 PM) I just use one I need to try this. Every time i play golf in the sun, my face and hands will have a obvious different tone of colour compared to my body. Anyone can recommend any other products similar to this which works?Garnier Whitening Facial Cleanser and Orang Kampong Papaya Soap whoch RM5 and RM2.5 respectively. not more than a week my face become fairer and smoother This post has been edited by silverwave: Jan 31 2009, 04:41 PM |
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Jan 31 2009, 05:44 PM
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Use facial scrub.
I use clenser twice a day and scrub maybe once in 3-5 days |
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Jan 31 2009, 09:26 PM
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Guys no need to be shy to use facial product
i play for kl youth football team and they brought their women facial regimes along everytime we have match and training. women facial product tend to be more effective for male teenagers and young man . at first i also shy2 to use just ignore those old mentality thinking of men using girl facial product. This post has been edited by QD_buyer: Jan 31 2009, 09:28 PM |
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Jan 31 2009, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(QD_buyer @ Jan 31 2009, 09:26 PM) Guys no need to be shy to use facial product can't agreed more...some people has old mindset and they laugh at me when i washing my face while they didn't when we are camping..those idiots end up has acned and bumped facial skin...i play for kl youth football team and they brought their women facial regimes along everytime we have match and training. women facial product tend to be more effective for male teenagers and young man . at first i also shy2 to use just ignore those old mentality thinking of men using girl facial product. |
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Jan 31 2009, 09:51 PM
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I currently using facial was and toner. but plan to buy oil reducing moisturizer just to reduce oil on face.
So far i've tried lab series for men and its way better then body shops face wash for men. |
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Jan 31 2009, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(QD_buyer @ Jan 31 2009, 09:26 PM) Guys no need to be shy to use facial product Very true, girls these days like man to take care of their face too i play for kl youth football team and they brought their women facial regimes along everytime we have match and training. women facial product tend to be more effective for male teenagers and young man . at first i also shy2 to use just ignore those old mentality thinking of men using girl facial product.  |
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Jan 31 2009, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Jan 31 2009, 09:30 PM) can't agreed more...some people has old mindset and they laugh at me when i washing my face while they didn't when we are camping..those idiots end up has acned and bumped facial skin... just ignore them,i had the very same experience like u did  QUOTE(silverwave @ Jan 31 2009, 11:00 PM) Very true, girls these days like man to take care of their face too |
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Feb 1 2009, 12:12 AM
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today, girl like clean faced men rather than acned bumped faced man...
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Feb 1 2009, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Feb 1 2009, 12:12 AM) today, girl like clean faced men rather than acned bumped faced man... clean faced men doesnt mean u are sotong type.famous footballer also have clean face. Added on February 1, 2009, 12:21 amanyone using homemade remedy here ? This post has been edited by QD_buyer: Feb 1 2009, 12:21 AM |
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Feb 1 2009, 08:01 PM
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I dunno why whenever i use those facial cleanser like nivea, cleansil, etc my skin will feel dry after using it. It feels uneasy on my face.
So now i only use tea tree oil since it doesn't happen that way  |
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Feb 1 2009, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(booby @ Feb 1 2009, 08:01 PM) I dunno why whenever i use those facial cleanser like nivea, cleansil, etc my skin will feel dry after using it. It feels uneasy on my face. Maybe you should try milder cleanser, like those milky ones.So now i only use tea tree oil since it doesn't happen that way |
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Feb 1 2009, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE I dunno why whenever i use those facial cleanser like nivea, cleansil, etc my skin will feel dry after using it. It feels uneasy on my face. So now i only use tea tree oil since it doesn't happen that way Seems like u have allergic reaction to some chemicals there. |
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Feb 2 2009, 12:12 AM
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i'm using mentholatum charcoal face wash... good... cleans off dirt and oil from my face daily...
 i've tried mentholatum charcoal ice... it's really cooling after wash... got de icy feel but tat, u gotto buy a whole package only got the charcoal ice... so, end up i bought the normal charcoal face wash... never use soap, i only use soap during bath overall but not on the face...  |
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Feb 2 2009, 01:17 PM
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How about the duration of wash? I wash once before work and and another after work.
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Feb 3 2009, 11:43 AM
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anyone try lab series bfore?
hmm one more prob is tat i dunno my skin type... shud i get for oily skin or dry... ~.~ been using loreal but dun seems to have effect on my black head >.< |
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Feb 3 2009, 01:23 PM
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currently using shokubutso...
i also dotn know which is suitable for me just hantam only... my face not really smooth n silky... haih... |
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Feb 3 2009, 03:21 PM
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uhmm ... I use soap to wash my face, after wash use toner. tat's all.
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Feb 4 2009, 03:05 AM
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QUOTE(morning06 @ Feb 3 2009, 11:43 AM) anyone try lab series bfore? Got into Lab Series couple of years ago.... verry good shaving/ after-shave range. If you don't know what skin type you are, ask the Lab Series counter ppl.... or go to Lab Series main counter in Pavilion.... they can assess your skin type, plus they may throw in a complimentary facial session in for you as well!hmm one more prob is tat i dunno my skin type... shud i get for oily skin or dry... ~.~ been using loreal but dun seems to have effect on my black head >.< |
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Feb 4 2009, 03:52 PM
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is there any charges if i go there for the consultation ? i mean the lab series at pavillion ^^'
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Feb 4 2009, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(morning06 @ Feb 4 2009, 03:52 PM) is there any charges if i go there for the consultation ? i mean the lab series at pavillion ^^' I've been there and it was full (facial). No idea about the consultation but I would recommend that you book first because there's only one lady there. |
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Feb 4 2009, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(Daniel_Chin @ Feb 4 2009, 06:13 PM) I've been there and it was full (facial). No idea about the consultation but I would recommend that you book first because there's only one lady there. I believe first time facial is free, but you may have to actually get some of the products. If you just go there to ask for recomendations & what your skin type is & what product is best for you, there isn't any charge.Normal facial charge is 100-120 I believe. |
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Feb 5 2009, 11:12 AM
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ok thanks i think i'll prob have a visit there next weeks since my loreal set gonna finish up >.< anyone have the phone number to book? might as well ask for a facial XD too many black heads to clean myself XD
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Feb 5 2009, 11:27 AM
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any good Moisturizer for men? im in my 20s face still ok
i dont understand why i have pimples at my jaw only face n forehead no pimples yet |
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Feb 5 2009, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Feb 5 2009, 11:27 AM) any good Moisturizer for men? im in my 20s face still ok I'm jealous. Anyway is your face dry? And what's your budget?i dont understand why i have pimples at my jaw only face n forehead no pimples yet |
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Feb 5 2009, 06:13 PM
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hmm haha i bought Kiehl's whats there to be jealous?
i heard la mer is good but i couldn't find it |
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Feb 6 2009, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Feb 5 2009, 06:13 PM) hmm haha i bought Kiehl's whats there to be jealous? Kiehl's? Does it work for pimples?i heard la mer is good but i couldn't find it |
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Feb 18 2009, 09:31 PM
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Just used my Shiseido for men cleansing foam, toner and moisturizer for the first time. The cleansing foam is good. I can feel my face is so much cleaner
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Feb 19 2009, 04:32 PM
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Use CETAPHIL gentle cleanser. Its the best if u are prone to acne or blemishes.
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Feb 19 2009, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Feb 19 2009, 04:32 PM) Use CETAPHIL gentle cleanser. Its the best if u are prone to acne or blemishes. usually cetaphil is the last resort if all fails. the reason why ppl use cetaphil is because theyve tried all kinds of product but to no avail bcause cetaphil is extremely mild and contains no element in it to combat acne or blemishes. |
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Feb 19 2009, 05:48 PM
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I use Kiehl's Ultra Facial Cleanser daily and Milk, Honey, & Almond Scrub alternate days. For normal skins and not drying.
Highly recommended. |
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Feb 26 2009, 12:22 AM
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I believe it's highly depending on your face type, sensitivity and of course budget. Used to cleanse my face with Nivea for 3 years until I gave Biotherm a try. Basic process. Cleanse & tone with Biotherm T-Pur Intense and finished off with Aquapower. Result is very noticeable and I have no regret of the upgrade. Give it a try esp Aquapower
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Feb 26 2009, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Feb 5 2009, 06:13 PM) hmm haha i bought Kiehl's whats there to be jealous? La Mer counters are at Isetan KLCC and Metrojaya Mid Valley. Ridiculously expensive though. It did amazing to my skin to keep pimples at bay and reduce scars but I can't afford it anymore i heard la mer is good but i couldn't find it QUOTE(THREEPOINTsix @ Feb 19 2009, 05:32 PM) usually cetaphil is the last resort if all fails. the reason why ppl use cetaphil is because theyve tried all kinds of product but to no avail bcause cetaphil is extremely mild and contains no element in it to combat acne or blemishes. Sometimes using too many products (cleanser + toner +treatment +moisturizer) all at once that focuses on acne treatment may be too much and can be quite drying to the skin. I use cetaphil as my morning cleanser so that my skin doesn't get aggravated. definitely great for really sensitive skin. |
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Feb 28 2009, 10:10 AM
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Cetaphil for the win! I myself use only cetaphil with panoxyl, and it works great for pimple problem.
Panoxyl also works as a pimple scar remover and has a subtle skin whitening effect (due to skin peeling) |
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Feb 28 2009, 03:25 PM
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I'm Oxy's fans, haha, it makes my face stay clean..
any recommend for scrub wash? |
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Feb 28 2009, 04:16 PM
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I been using the Exfoliac Facial wash thingy..Mum bought it from the family clinic..Been using it for many years..
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Mar 1 2009, 12:58 PM
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i use this, and my face has no pimples at all,white,smooth and still baby face, very good looking
heres the product i use, btw ignore the chemistry books  !! but i forgotten the price of the DR's Secret, SANS Dynamic cost about RM200 i guess o-o SANS Dynamic is used during bathing, means its not apply only, but need to be washed off too, it cleanses and whiten the face, then after when my face is cleaned, wipe your face dry, and apply DR's Secret on your face, and do what you do for the day i apply both twice a day, so far no side effect, has been using both for 3 years already btw both products are hard to get!! |
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Mar 2 2009, 10:34 PM
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haiz how do i make my skin good looking, always reddish and pores are so big
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Mar 3 2009, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(choyster @ Mar 2 2009, 10:34 PM) haiz how do i make my skin good looking, always reddish and pores are so big read the stuff i just post right above your post, the DR's Secret cost about RM109 it helps the red faces whiten or try aloe vera, slap it to your face and then leave it until morning wake up pee time |
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Mar 3 2009, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(BlueKM @ Mar 3 2009, 02:11 PM) read the stuff i just post right above your post, the DR's Secret cost about RM109 it helps the red faces whiten i dont think my problem is with acne rather its the big pores and reddish thingy what do you call that inflammation? or try aloe vera, slap it to your face and then leave it until morning wake up pee time |
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Mar 3 2009, 06:51 PM
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owhs, thats because of you break the pimple when its still young
it could be resolved with the DR's Secret too, i have it lastime but now its lesser, and very unnoticable, lastime i have that big pores and reddish thing too, that DR's is really good, almost everything is curable, btw if you apply any medicine at all, remember don't go sauna or swimming, really bad for skin, makes it worst like 5 times |
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Mar 3 2009, 11:32 PM
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anyone here use Natio products?
i saw them in Sasa... it seems work for guys... i have a problem that i have clog pores on my face... which i can't really get rid of it... any suggestion? |
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Mar 5 2009, 12:25 PM
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Guys,what facial cleanser is recommended?
Btw i never washed my face regularly before. Therefore i would like to know the products i need to use besides cleanser. Thanks. |
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Mar 5 2009, 04:30 PM
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 still no recomendation for "after sports wash face" usage?  |
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Mar 9 2009, 01:03 PM
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Guys, is there any correct method to wash the face? Some say circular motions is the best. True?
How about toner and moisturizer? |
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Mar 9 2009, 01:16 PM
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i am using Loreal Men Expert UV Series
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Mar 9 2009, 10:40 PM
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any good pimple cream to recommend? currently using biotherm one, quite expensive, thinking of changing. thx
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Mar 9 2009, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(omniknight86 @ Mar 9 2009, 01:16 PM) i am using Loreal Men Expert UV Series hows it? and how much eh? |
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Mar 10 2009, 12:27 AM
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I use Origins Mint Wash (Cleansing gel), Oil Refiner (Toner), Matte Scientist (Moisturizer) and their mask and scrub.
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Mar 10 2009, 04:34 AM
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im using dermalogica products
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Mar 10 2009, 04:59 AM
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Any idea where to get Cetaphil ? Can I get it in Midvalley ?
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Mar 10 2009, 01:46 PM
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I use Brylcreem 2 in 1 facial wash & Nivea Face scrubs.
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Mar 10 2009, 11:58 PM
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hye guys...i got quiet dark skin..any recommended product to make my skin more fare?..currently using loreal men expert white active facial wash and moisturizer
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Mar 11 2009, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Mar 9 2009, 10:59 PM) hows it? and how much eh? emm...reasonably good, can try it out. after wash face can feel the skin more better, priced around rm30++ for the UV protection...if wash face one only cost about rm13 plus |
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Mar 11 2009, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(omniknight86 @ Mar 11 2009, 12:05 AM) emm...reasonably good, can try it out. after wash face can feel the skin more better, priced around rm30++ for the UV protection...if wash face one only cost about rm13 plus thats kinda reasonable price, i always thought i'd be more exp.. |
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Mar 11 2009, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Mar 11 2009, 12:38 AM) thats kinda reasonable price, i always thought i'd be more exp.. yap, should try it out one day for yourself. quite reasonable price and good quality. |
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Mar 11 2009, 10:08 PM
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no one respond....???
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Mar 12 2009, 04:43 PM
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For me. I've tried so many facial care product. Quess what, the expensive and the well known product doesn't suits me. Tried product of loreal, cetaphil etc previously. As the result my face getting worse and the pimple came out everywhere.
Finally, I tried cheap local Malaysian product called Safi Rania. Haha. My face getting okay and the pimple reduced. Once a week I'm using a 'mud' from Himalaya product. Really good. This post has been edited by .:zep:.: Mar 12 2009, 04:44 PM |
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Mar 29 2009, 11:10 AM
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cetaphil can get at nearby phamacy. i use skin food product for toner and moisturiser good!!!!!!!! erm... as for those whos jaws got pimples, this link to ur internal body wan go for detoxification |
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Mar 29 2009, 02:52 PM
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zomg, i'm using Men's Biore
17 this year only lol This post has been edited by elm0001: Mar 29 2009, 02:53 PM |
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Mar 29 2009, 03:25 PM
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Have any of you use Oxy 5 or Oxy 10 for ur pimple problem? It work?
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Mar 29 2009, 03:30 PM
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during form 3 or 4, i used it whenever pimples popped out.
it really works. but now, never used already lol |
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Mar 29 2009, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(omniknight86 @ Mar 9 2009, 01:16 PM) i am using Loreal Men Expert UV Series pure & matte series user here Added on March 29, 2009, 7:47 pm QUOTE(darknight90 @ Mar 29 2009, 03:25 PM) Have any of you use Oxy 5 or Oxy 10 for ur pimple problem? It work? all of my friend recommend it and it works for them..BUT it doesnt work for me the part i applied the cream feels itchy and gets reddish .. but...i do use it when i get REALLY REALLY huge pimples... and... it eventually heals but im not sure if it was from the help of OXY or not =] This post has been edited by EddieDotCom: Mar 29 2009, 07:47 PM |
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Mar 29 2009, 08:15 PM
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how about pimple scar??
wat do u guys recommend??? |
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Mar 29 2009, 09:19 PM
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hm...using masks help heals scars..
at least to me ?? freeman cucumber mask...its affordable u might want to try it |
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Mar 29 2009, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(EddieDotCom @ Mar 29 2009, 09:19 PM) hm...using masks help heals scars.. erk.at least to me ?? freeman cucumber mask...its affordable u might want to try it neva used a mask before.. how much is it n where to get? |
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Apr 7 2009, 07:16 PM
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anyone use st.ives product? highly recommended. the scrubs are very nice to use. affordable too.
facial care 1.wash 2.scrub 3.toner 4.moisturizer 5.do mask from time to time dos and do not 1.wipe the face gently 2.dont break pimple 3.drink plenty of water |
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Apr 8 2009, 02:21 AM
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QUOTE(mista_amin @ Mar 29 2009, 08:15 PM) how about pimple scar?? what kinda scar?wat do u guys recommend??? just discolouration or deep pitted scars? |
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Apr 8 2009, 02:43 AM
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QUOTE(2kia @ Apr 8 2009, 02:21 AM) what kinda scar? discolouration.just discolouration or deep pitted scars? im not the type dat use a lot of face care except for facial wash. |
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Apr 8 2009, 03:33 AM
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QUOTE(mista_amin @ Apr 8 2009, 02:43 AM) discolouration. hmm a mild chemical peel might help. google it up. im not the type dat use a lot of face care except for facial wash. |
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Apr 8 2009, 05:46 AM
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QUOTE(2kia @ Apr 8 2009, 03:33 AM) hmm a mild chemical peel might help. google it up. ahha.something u would recommend plz??? |
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Apr 8 2009, 09:49 PM
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1,719 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: Kuala Lumpur
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Does anyone has tried out this product The Body Shop For Men Maca Root Face Wash, i wanna get some reviews from you guy as well as the retail price, my loreal men expert is going to be finished, so have to buy some face skin care for myself.
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Apr 8 2009, 09:50 PM
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i normally pakai New York skin
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Apr 8 2009, 11:16 PM
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Loreal Men Expert work well for me.... Hydra Energetic series. Damn good.
Been using for more than a year... skin look like Daniel Wu now... LOL. |
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Apr 12 2009, 10:40 PM
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is there anybody have tried out the body shop homme maca root face wash?
PS: RM42(125ml) |
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Apr 14 2009, 10:26 PM
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When in secondary school, i never use facial care, just used Lux soap...
After been in KL start to use facial care, for me, i won't use one product more than 2 times, i will keep changing 2 products, may be item 1 is scrub nivea, item 2 is whitening nivea, then back to item 1 again.....in this way, i think the effect is better. The sequence should be i) Facial wash with scrub (now using Invigorating facial scrub free by Top Gear) ii) Toner (now using Clean & clear...cheap & nice) iii) moisturiser (now using Hydra Energetic Loreal from loreal warehouse sales) My suggestion, Don't use soap to wash face because it will dry up ur face's skin, and tats y pimple won't grow, but black head will still grow...i guess Loreal men expert product its really good, must try.... Men older than 25 year-old must start to care about the face...else, getting older faster......look like apek.....lol Always change pillow cover, and sheet cover Front hair dont always cover ur forehead Wash face everytime u bath....of course must apply moisture after bath Not really suggest to go facial treatment...some will picit hardly, and remain the marks on face for long time.....hate that, i kena twice... Toner can apply when u think ur face its dirty, because toner will clean up ur face also (heard from someone) Apply toner before going out, tight up pore first, so that the dust n dirt won't stuck inside Eat more fruits and drink more water Last one.......must hv enough sleep |
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Apr 14 2009, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(spermatogenesis @ Jan 28 2009, 01:53 PM) anyone using Biotherm Pour Homme?..Lancome Homme? Previously, but after one year its doesn't work anymore. Less effective. |
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Apr 14 2009, 11:42 PM
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OXY 10 would damage ur face. It has strong acid tat work used to kill gem tat would also hurt ur face. Tats y u can find it cheap n useful.
Use more gentle product to cure ur pimple. Such as tea tree oil(i duno wat is its ful name thou). |
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Apr 14 2009, 11:49 PM
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My Acne treatment products
Also got use clean & clear spots gel. I kept it in the office... This post has been edited by adren1: Apr 14 2009, 11:52 PM |
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Apr 15 2009, 01:38 AM
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QUOTE(adren1 @ Apr 14 2009, 11:49 PM) My Acne treatment products t3 acne body spray work or not?
Also got use clean & clear spots gel. I kept it in the office... |
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Apr 15 2009, 08:53 PM
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watz gud for pimples?
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Apr 16 2009, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(awangalya @ Apr 15 2009, 08:53 PM) watz gud for pimples? You can try PanOxyl Acnegel 10, recommended by my pharmacist friend. Works well on me. |
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Apr 16 2009, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(Boneka @ Apr 15 2009, 01:38 AM) t3 acne body spray work or not? Yes it work. Use it on your body but don't use it on your face.This post has been edited by adren1: Apr 19 2009, 09:51 AM |
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Apr 23 2009, 03:58 PM
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Just curious, anyone used clinelle products? Any good?
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Apr 24 2009, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(firenos90 @ Apr 23 2009, 03:58 PM) Just curious, anyone used clinelle products? Any good? Does not work for me. |
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Apr 25 2009, 06:03 PM
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hi guys!
my face is quite oily... anybody can recommend me any facial product? thanks! |
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Apr 25 2009, 11:35 PM
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213 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: Subang Jaya
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I bought these.. the loreal men expert white activ..http://www.faces.com.my/trends/trends.asp?id=2764
Hope it's good |
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Apr 26 2009, 12:12 AM
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4,662 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Pandan Indah
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normally when i get breakouts I just lessen my meat intake and it clears off. no additional cleaners required.
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Apr 26 2009, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(Hongraphics @ Apr 25 2009, 11:35 PM) I bought these.. the loreal men expert white activ..http://www.faces.com.my/trends/trends.asp?id=2764 Hey bro..i just bought the top one like about 2 weeks ago..seems good to clear my pimple scars and dark spots.Hope it's good |
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Apr 27 2009, 12:03 AM
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My scar care product. But i think laser treatment is still the best
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Apr 27 2009, 05:41 PM
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i use Eumora.... hahax but its abit too dry la...
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Apr 27 2009, 06:33 PM
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hmm i use dead sea mineral soap. its okay.
But it'll make your face clear of oils after rinsing. Then When all dried up, it felt smooth. Pimples are no where to be seen. But before i used this.. i took tetracycline pills (1 per day) for 4 months.. and my chronic pimple problems are gone. Less black/whiteheads. Now i don't take it anymore. And use T3 acne gel for protection. |
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Jun 29 2009, 05:22 PM
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dudes can you guys tell me which cleanser is the best to even out skin tone?
and mouisturizer to if you know one thats good This post has been edited by happymilk: Jun 29 2009, 05:22 PM |
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Jun 30 2009, 10:42 AM
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Why not go for a facial to clear it out.. then can get recommendation from them..
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Jun 30 2009, 04:39 PM
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Thread title "can someone recommend me a good face cleanser, to even my out skin?" has been merged..
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Jun 30 2009, 08:21 PM
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went to beauty centre to enquire about my acne problem on friday. and i bought what they are recommend me.
Cleansing Milk by Dr.Renaud cost me RM 88 Pimple Corrector by Remy Laure cost me RM 169 At first i quite shock that the pimple corrector gel cost that much but i bought it anyway. been using it for 3 days and it showing positive result. i'm using Lorean Men Expert white activ as moisturizer. |
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Jun 30 2009, 08:39 PM
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497 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Seventh Heaven
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how to clear pimple scar? got some lobang on my face
and i do use foundation to cover it |
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Jun 30 2009, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(finecut @ Jun 30 2009, 08:39 PM) how to clear pimple scar? got some lobang on my face you a girl right? i guess is okay to use foundation to cover it. pimple scar will only heal by time unless you went to laser treatment which cost a boom.. and i do use foundation to cover it |
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Jun 30 2009, 09:24 PM
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haih laser mahal siot
anyone found any scar treatment product that works? |
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Jun 30 2009, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(finecut @ Jun 30 2009, 09:24 PM) haih laser mahal siot try melderma...or something like that i think. it said acne scar will dissapear in 6 months time on continual usage.anyone found any scar treatment product that works? |
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Jul 7 2009, 03:29 PM
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try this steps
cleanser, toner, moisturizer or twice a week scrub + a mask |
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Jul 8 2009, 08:51 AM
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anyone who knows the function of toner??because i heard last time that it can function as to reduce the size of pore skin??anyone know??
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Jul 8 2009, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(imran @ Jul 8 2009, 08:51 AM) anyone who knows the function of toner??because i heard last time that it can function as to reduce the size of pore skin??anyone know?? if not mistaken to clear your face dirts... |
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Jul 8 2009, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(imran @ Jul 8 2009, 08:51 AM) anyone who knows the function of toner??because i heard last time that it can function as to reduce the size of pore skin??anyone know?? yes, other than minimizing the size of the pore, it helps to replenish the moisture in your skin after cleansing.This post has been edited by attacusatlas: Jul 8 2009, 03:32 PM |
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Jul 8 2009, 07:06 PM
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628 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Penang ---- Perth
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anyone using biotherm mens skin care here??
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Jul 8 2009, 11:10 PM
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Guys, got any suggestions on killing blackheads on my nose and BIG pores on my face? I have no idea how can I "finish" them all... =.=lll
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Jul 9 2009, 02:39 AM
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guys...need help here....i have a very oily face skin...even worse if i put any hair product on my hair...gel/clay/wax/mud anything cannot use cause will make my face more oily n i dont know why...
the real big problem is i cannot use any facial wash product (the normal2 0ne laa...never try the expensive one cause afraid same thing happen again n its a waste of money) to reduce the oil because it makes pimples comes out of no where n always the big2 one n this happen in one nite...tonight i wash my face n go to sleep n next morning walaaa!!! pimples ...the only way is i just sometimes use st ives gel/liquid mask before i sleep n the next day it only start to oil again late in evening around 4pm... its a bit (leceh) for me to put mask every nite..... help me  need a good product to reduce the oil n i can use my hair product again n it wont pop out pimple like craze... another thing...my face doesnt have pimples but at my body have like a lot...why?? any product u guys recommend?? This post has been edited by spadecrew: Jul 9 2009, 02:41 AM |
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Jul 9 2009, 04:31 AM
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i quite alot of clogged pores on my face and i've tried alot of types of cleanser n scrub, still there are still there...
how to seriously unclog the pored? These clogged pores causing my face uneven... i wanna get those sh!t out from the pores...  |
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Jul 9 2009, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(spadecrew @ Jul 9 2009, 02:39 AM) guys...need help here....i have a very oily face skin...even worse if i put any hair product on my hair...gel/clay/wax/mud anything cannot use cause will make my face more oily n i dont know why... go and see a dermatologist , they will be able to advice youthe real big problem is i cannot use any facial wash product (the normal2 0ne laa...never try the expensive one cause afraid same thing happen again n its a waste of money) to reduce the oil because it makes pimples comes out of no where n always the big2 one n this happen in one nite...tonight i wash my face n go to sleep n next morning walaaa!!! pimples ...the only way is i just sometimes use st ives gel/liquid mask before i sleep n the next day it only start to oil again late in evening around 4pm... its a bit (leceh) for me to put mask every nite..... help me need a good product to reduce the oil n i can use my hair product again n it wont pop out pimple like craze... another thing...my face doesnt have pimples but at my body have like a lot...why?? any product u guys recommend?? |
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Jul 9 2009, 02:37 PM
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there a new product from Nivea for men...
its looks not bad... it comes with 2 actions while wash your facial... i saw it at the TV advertisement... forgotten what is the product name already... does anybody can recall that...?? |
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Jul 9 2009, 04:18 PM
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using Riten A and apparently is good to repair scars
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Jul 9 2009, 05:17 PM
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Okay, guys, i've tried the VICHY products, it's so nice,
firstly, i tried vichy ANTI INPERFECTION HYDRATING CARE(50ml, RM 99), but, after a month it works, BUT my skin stil oily even thou it is not as mush as b4, and my pores are still XXL size. It doesnt change so much. THEN i continue using it, PLUS the ACTIVE ANTI INPERFECTION CONCENTRATE(15ml, rm56 if i've not mistaken), which gradually reduce my sebum production and i feel better, as i dont feel and look any kind of oily skin. Good news huh? It works best at night. Apply only on the targetted blemish area, or at your T-zone. I love it . Then, i continue using BOTH of them, PLUS, the CHRONO-ACTIVE PORE REFINING CARE(50ml, rm97), this works like a night cream which acts to contracs our pores and after 2weeks using it, night after night it shows good result, i even can see the result after the first night using it. And now, my skin complexion is more even, and i keep on using them 1)ANti Imperfection hydrating care-i used 3moths oredi still got 1/4 of the first bottle 2)Active anti imperfection concentrate-1month oredi 3)Chrono-active pore refining care-3weeks oredi and these give an impressive result. u can get all these at Guardian Midvalley. Ps: dont listen to the Vichy gal there, as she dont really know abt the product. SO, my advice, is go to the Vichy website (click here) to learn more b4 u buy. SO, when u arrive at guardian, u just have to pick and go pay!! As i puposely ask the gal abt the product, what is this for, what is that for, she even told me false info. SO SAD!! FOR those who got such thing as irritation, or breakouts. It might be because of ur skin get shocked!! So, my advice is, stop using it for awhile, then, little by little start using them again. I"M HAPPY WITH THE RESULT, AND I WISH U GUYS WILL BE AS HAPPY AS ME. For those oily skin, u have to wash ur skin, like using any cleanser with scrubs, but not only wash!!... use toner, to clear ur skin, like me, even thou i just wash my skin, i mean really wash!!! when i apply toner with cotton pad, i still can see dirts on my cotton pad. SO, wash ur face isn enough. Use toner too!! Okay? SO, my skin is OILY AND GOT A LOT OF PORES, probably, it's hard to really clear my skin. LOVE, henney. Added on July 9, 2009, 6:16 pmBtw, regarding for the use of toner, it depends, as there exist like whitening toner(loreal and garnier does), make-up remover toner(i see one in loreal), but, in general toner is specificallly talk about oily skin problems like i do, it is to contracts pores. Bc, pores secrete that sebum, and that sebum is oil-look, greasy. That makes our skin oily!!! W*F!!Go and kill all pores!! MOISTURIZERS ARE NOT FOR THOSE WHO GOT OILY SKIN. Pliss correct me if i get myself wrong!! THNX This post has been edited by henney: Jul 9 2009, 06:18 PM |
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Jul 10 2009, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(henney @ Jul 9 2009, 05:17 PM) Okay, guys, i've tried the VICHY products, it's so nice, Is CHRONO-ACTIVE PORE REFINING CARE really help in minimizing our pores? firstly, i tried vichy ANTI INPERFECTION HYDRATING CARE(50ml, RM 99), but, after a month it works, BUT my skin stil oily even thou it is not as mush as b4, and my pores are still XXL size. It doesnt change so much. THEN i continue using it, PLUS the ACTIVE ANTI INPERFECTION CONCENTRATE(15ml, rm56 if i've not mistaken), which gradually reduce my sebum production and i feel better, as i dont feel and look any kind of oily skin. Good news huh? It works best at night. Apply only on the targetted blemish area, or at your T-zone. I love it . Then, i continue using BOTH of them, PLUS, the CHRONO-ACTIVE PORE REFINING CARE(50ml, rm97), this works like a night cream which acts to contracs our pores and after 2weeks using it, night after night it shows good result, i even can see the result after the first night using it. And now, my skin complexion is more even, and i keep on using them 1)ANti Imperfection hydrating care-i used 3moths oredi still got 1/4 of the first bottle 2)Active anti imperfection concentrate-1month oredi 3)Chrono-active pore refining care-3weeks oredi  |
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Jul 13 2009, 06:27 PM
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 http://www.scribd.com/doc/17300266/Presentation2Eumora Untuk 3 minit keajaiban??? This post has been edited by ritztkd: Jul 13 2009, 06:27 PM |
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Jul 15 2009, 08:25 PM
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Use Loreal Men's Expert products. Not bad
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Jul 18 2009, 02:03 PM
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correct me if i'm wrong but isn't pimples = stress?
in my case everytime i get stressed(i mean REALLY stressed)the pimples will come out like the next day after i wake up from sleep...i'm using the brylcreem moisturizer+cleaner or something.. |
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Jul 18 2009, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(khong86 @ Jul 15 2009, 08:25 PM) Use Loreal Men's Expert products. Not bad agreed. their moisturizer works wonder. |
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Jul 19 2009, 09:20 PM
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I use Sebamed and Cetaphil. I dont get pimples at all, unless im sick.. I do exercise regularly, sweating does get rid of unwanted dirt in your pores I guess, or maybe since the sweat is salty, it kills off the bacteria on your face XD.
Im just assuming la.. but Sebamed and cetaphil are good brands of face wash which I would recommend. The Sebamed im using is ClearFace, foam like. and the cetaphil is like soap. Im not sure howmuch they cost , should be around 30-50 |
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Jul 19 2009, 11:41 PM
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i have many blackheads, any suggestion?
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Jul 19 2009, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(andrew1st @ Jul 20 2009, 12:41 AM) i have many blackheads, any suggestion? try biotherm homme acno pure range~~u can do research in their website.. |
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Jul 20 2009, 12:14 AM
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their website is?
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Jul 20 2009, 06:48 PM
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www.biotherm.com
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Jul 20 2009, 07:42 PM
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541 posts Joined: Apr 2009 From: Damansara
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what the nice product to reduce acne ?
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Jul 21 2009, 05:23 AM
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QUOTE(ch@ich@i @ Jul 9 2009, 02:37 PM) there a new product from Nivea for men... i guess its looks not bad... it comes with 2 actions while wash your facial... i saw it at the TV advertisement... forgotten what is the product name already... does anybody can recall that...??   |
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Jul 21 2009, 05:38 AM
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try Mario Badescu, DRYING MASK is pretty good
http://www.mariobadescu.com/Acne-Skin-Care going to try out zirh CLEAN FACE BAR. http://www.zirh.com/ I heard lab series and anthony are pretty decent http://www.anthony.com/ http://www.labseries.com/ This post has been edited by patryn33: Jul 21 2009, 05:46 AM |
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Jul 21 2009, 01:26 PM
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guys when i was younger around 17+,i used this product called Shurah facial cleanser,works wonders and its pretty cheap compared to well established brands
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Jul 22 2009, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE(aamry @ Jul 20 2009, 07:42 PM) what the nice product to reduce acne ? If slight problem, try Lab Series. If considerably bad, try Dermalogica MediBac range. |
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Jul 24 2009, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE(dawson sim @ Jul 20 2009, 06:48 PM) www.biotherm.com where can i purchase it? |
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Jul 24 2009, 07:11 PM
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For me , i uses Bio essence - Nurgeno .
Comes with Skin care renewel gel Double Action Oil Control cleasing & shaving foam Cooling Moisturizer. I also used facial mask to keep my face smooth and bright . For the pass few months , i've been using Loreal menexpert , but the product doesnt suits me well . So i changed to nugeno since there is alot of good comments from users . *WoW* Nugeno is really recommended for guys , especially guys with oily face . For my situation , my face gets oily in just one or 2 hours time , Nugeno helps me to control the oil from coming out and lessen the oil by 50% i guess . From rough and pimple face = Smooth and shinny face . But now i've just use this product for less than 1 month , i guess as time goes on . My face will be smooth without pimple forever . Step 1 : use Skin Renew Gel , apply it on dry face and rub till your face is totally dry and you can see dead skin started to peel off . Step 2 : use Oil Control Cleansing & Shaving foam . Step 3 : i use mask on my face ( Depends on individual )Step 4 : Appy moisturizer after the masky process finished .You face is ready to go . Haha This post has been edited by ColouRs_:): Jul 24 2009, 07:11 PM |
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Jul 24 2009, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(andrew1st @ Jul 24 2009, 01:58 AM) where can i purchase it? so sorry for the late reply..u can get biotherm in parkson~~ |
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Jul 25 2009, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(ColouRs_:) @ Jul 24 2009, 07:11 PM) For me , i uses Bio essence - Nurgeno . tq for the info..Comes with Skin care renewel gel Double Action Oil Control cleasing & shaving foam Cooling Moisturizer. I also used facial mask to keep my face smooth and bright . For the pass few months , i've been using Loreal menexpert , but the product doesnt suits me well . So i changed to nugeno since there is alot of good comments from users . *WoW* Nugeno is really recommended for guys , especially guys with oily face . For my situation , my face gets oily in just one or 2 hours time , Nugeno helps me to control the oil from coming out and lessen the oil by 50% i guess . From rough and pimple face = Smooth and shinny face . But now i've just use this product for less than 1 month , i guess as time goes on . My face will be smooth without pimple forever . Step 1 : use Skin Renew Gel , apply it on dry face and rub till your face is totally dry and you can see dead skin started to peel off . Step 2 : use Oil Control Cleansing & Shaving foam . Step 3 : i use mask on my face ( Depends on individual )Step 4 : Appy moisturizer after the masky process finished .You face is ready to go . Haha may i know the price for that package.. interested to try |
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Jul 25 2009, 09:56 PM
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go www.acne.org
include to the web benzoyl peroxide is the best to get rid of acne some shaving cream have it and products like oxy has it too |
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Jul 25 2009, 10:35 PM
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guys .. this is not bout face but it is bout the back ..
my back recently has a lot of pimples . some dried already but still there .. and some still very redish .. any idea what should i do ?? |
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Jul 26 2009, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Jul 25 2009, 10:35 PM) guys .. this is not bout face but it is bout the back .. maybe this bcoz of your sweating too muchmy back recently has a lot of pimples . some dried already but still there .. and some still very redish .. any idea what should i do ?? just use acne soap Added on July 26, 2009, 12:02 pm QUOTE(avengers88 @ Jul 25 2009, 10:35 PM) guys .. this is not bout face but it is bout the back .. maybe this bcoz of your sweating too muchmy back recently has a lot of pimples . some dried already but still there .. and some still very redish .. any idea what should i do ?? just use acne soap This post has been edited by hipopotomose001: Jul 26 2009, 12:02 PM |
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Jul 29 2009, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(hipopotomose001 @ Jul 25 2009, 09:56 PM) go www.acne.org not everyone can use BENZOYL PEROXIDE..include to the web benzoyl peroxide is the best to get rid of acne some shaving cream have it and products like oxy has it too Its a very strong chemical.. i tried b4..make it more worse nia..maybe i have sensitive skins QUOTE(avengers88 @ Jul 25 2009, 10:35 PM) guys .. this is not bout face but it is bout the back .. last time i have pimples too..my back recently has a lot of pimples . some dried already but still there .. and some still very redish .. any idea what should i do ?? i tried T3 Acne Body Wash, T3 Body Spray.. but NO USE AT ALL..because u need to keep using if not then will come back.. then now everyday after bath i put baby powder annakku..kinda good.. now my pimples no more..no more red..just dry but ok liao... |
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Jul 29 2009, 10:27 PM
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ever tried monsturizing ?
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Aug 5 2009, 07:47 PM
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Hi guys , i don't know whether this is the right place to post this or not , but i find that there is no other places that i can post this ( I cant post this on the Girl Club )
The question i want to ask is that my friend just give me a set of Loreal Men Expert set that contain ( a face cleanser , toner , 360 Turnaround Whitening Moisturising Fluid , Hydra Energetic Turbo Booster Intense recovery moisturiser kick start wake-up ) for my birthday last week . Im still new on this skin care things and i don't which i should apply first . Are there any guys that are using the same product as me ? Can give me any advice ? Answer will be much appreciate . |
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Aug 5 2009, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(DoIhaveName @ Aug 5 2009, 08:47 PM) Hi guys , i don't know whether this is the right place to post this or not , but i find that there is no other places that i can post this ( I cant post this on the Girl Club ) the correct steps are cleanse-toning-moisturizing~~The question i want to ask is that my friend just give me a set of Loreal Men Expert set that contain ( a face cleanser , toner , 360 Turnaround Whitening Moisturising Fluid , Hydra Energetic Turbo Booster Intense recovery moisturiser kick start wake-up ) for my birthday last week . Im still new on this skin care things and i don't which i should apply first . Are there any guys that are using the same product as me ? Can give me any advice ? Answer will be much appreciate . it seems like there are two kinds of moisturizer in the set, maybe 1 is use in the morning and 1 is for nite, or maybe 1 is after another is applied~~phew, i am using biotherm homme, so i have no idea to this~ |
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Aug 5 2009, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(dawson sim @ Aug 5 2009, 07:52 PM) the correct steps are cleanse-toning-moisturizing~~ Thanks for you advice bro , but i still wondering which moisturizer gonna be use 1st it seems like there are two kinds of moisturizer in the set, maybe 1 is use in the morning and 1 is for nite, or maybe 1 is after another is applied~~phew, i am using biotherm homme, so i have no idea to this~  |
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Aug 5 2009, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(DoIhaveName @ Aug 5 2009, 07:57 PM) Thanks for you advice bro , but i still wondering which moisturizer gonna be use 1st try reading the instructions |
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Aug 5 2009, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Aug 5 2009, 08:02 PM) try reading the instructions Instruction did not display the step , it just show the direction to use . |
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Aug 5 2009, 10:14 PM
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u use 2 moisturizer ?
use 1 enuff leh |
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Aug 5 2009, 10:24 PM
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I didn't even use so many stuff
Just use Biore for men active acne facial foam everyday and another facial scrub twice per week. Then apply rejuvenating mask once every fortnight. |
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Aug 6 2009, 12:29 AM
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clean > toner > moisturiser
Hydra Energetic Turbo Booster Intense recovery moisturiser kick start wake-up morning use 360 Turnaround Whitening Moisturising Fluid at night use |
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Aug 6 2009, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(hipopotomose001 @ Aug 5 2009, 10:14 PM) u use 2 moisturizer ? Ya , the pack come with 2 moisturizer , i also dont know need use which use 1 enuff leh QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Aug 5 2009, 10:24 PM) I didn't even use so many stuff haha , i just started to take care my face , so i dont know need to use how many product actually Just use Biore for men active acne facial foam everyday and another facial scrub twice per week. Then apply rejuvenating mask once every fortnight. QUOTE(kinkeet @ Aug 6 2009, 12:29 AM) clean > toner > moisturiser 360 Turnaround Whitening Moisturising Fluid not night and day ?Hydra Energetic Turbo Booster Intense recovery moisturiser kick start wake-up morning use 360 Turnaround Whitening Moisturising Fluid at night use This post has been edited by DoIhaveName: Aug 7 2009, 12:05 AM |
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Aug 6 2009, 10:41 PM
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it is simple.. just drink all then you will get a smooth and fair skin
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Aug 7 2009, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(pkiensing @ Aug 6 2009, 10:41 PM) it is simple.. just drink all then you will get a smooth and fair skin yea, and smooth to dead |
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Aug 7 2009, 06:30 AM
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the reason it is called 360 Turnaround Whitening Moisturising Fluid its because it contains UV protection SPF20++.....so i dont think its used at nite....
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Aug 14 2009, 10:55 PM
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i only use facial cleanser only.. not so many stuff liddat! haha
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Aug 15 2009, 01:31 AM
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A face cleanser - This one u can use daily. Read the back on its usage.
Toner - This one also can use daily. Also read back on usage. 360 Turnaround Whitening Moisturising Fluid - This one only is u want your skin to go fairer. Its only used on a whitening regime. That means u use cleanser, then this. How long to see effects is up to how long u are exposed to sun. Hydra Energetic Turbo Booster Intense recovery moisturiser kick start wake-up - This one only use when u sleep late and wish to hide the effect of not enough sleep. Its not a daily use product. Its only special ocassion where u need a quick pickup for your face. Use after cleanser. Anyway its not advisable to use everything all together as each of the product has diferent features. Most of the time only 2 product at a time and no more. As sometime layering of different products causes skin irritations. Do check out if your face is too oily after use. That means u don't need additional moisturiser. |
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Aug 17 2009, 02:31 PM
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Thread title "Advice on washing face (Guys), Need some help here" merged..
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Aug 19 2009, 07:36 PM
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just use clean and clear facial wash~ n guess what, i use fair n lovely too~ hahaha, now my skin so smooth even my lecturer ask me what is my secret...damn.
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Aug 21 2009, 11:31 PM
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hi guys...wanna ask which product shud i use in order to recover those scar/hole?
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Aug 21 2009, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(kinkeet @ Aug 6 2009, 12:29 AM) clean > toner > moisturiser you use both? got any side effect? i use 360 white activ for day n night use.Hydra Energetic Turbo Booster Intense recovery moisturiser kick start wake-up morning use 360 Turnaround Whitening Moisturising Fluid at night use |
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Aug 22 2009, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(jason991 @ Aug 21 2009, 11:31 PM) hi guys...wanna ask which product shud i use in order to recover those scar/hole? This really depends a lot on the type of scar you have and its age. Very old scars can be somewhat very hard or near impossible to heal completely. For small problems, you can use scar creams like Merderma or etc available over the counter at pharmacies. Do note though that they don't come cheap, normally RM50 and up for a tube. Some people opt for laser treatment which works better but this can hurt a lot, costs a lot of money, requires a few session and might cause afterburns. |
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Aug 23 2009, 09:23 AM
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actually i dunno whether to call it a scar...is the scar tat made by those pimples once i pinched it....im juz 18...XD...so anymore further solution?
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Aug 23 2009, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(jason991 @ Aug 23 2009, 09:23 AM) actually i dunno whether to call it a scar...is the scar tat made by those pimples once i pinched it....im juz 18...XD...so anymore further solution? As a follow-up to my previous post:Firstly you need to determine the type of scar that you have:  If you want a cheap method, try rubbing onion on your scars since it is a form of natural treatment. Although, I suggest that you look for scar creams in pharmacies and look for one that is for your scars. There'll be descriptions on the packaging. Creams like Mederma are derived from onion extract, if I'm not mistaken. For more advanced treatments, then you'll have to decide on the treatment based on your scar type, budget and etc (each treatment method is user-rated): http://www.acne.org/scars.php Here's a list of Favourite Asked Questions (FAQ) on acne scars and their treatments: http://www.acne.org/messageboard/FAQ-SUMMA...S-TR-t5996.html This post has been edited by Fusion[eX]: Aug 23 2009, 02:12 PM |
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Aug 23 2009, 04:29 PM
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ok...thx for the info bro...
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Aug 23 2009, 11:55 PM
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how to deal with the acne?i haf many acne on my face
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Aug 24 2009, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(j1122 @ Aug 23 2009, 11:55 PM) how to deal with the acne?i haf many acne on my face Maybe you should try out a natural facecare product called Himalaya ,I'm been using it for months and right now my face barely has any pimples on it. |
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Aug 24 2009, 11:06 AM
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blackheads + pimples....
but jut a few n not realy serious.... but stil nid to take care about it.. any idea? |
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Aug 24 2009, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(busyman @ Aug 24 2009, 11:06 AM) blackheads + pimples.... Cleanse daily, scrub twice a week, control sebum secretion and use tee tree oil or pimple creams on your pimples. Becareful of cleansers with exfoliating properties since some people's skins can be sensitive to it and causes further acne outbreaks.but jut a few n not realy serious.... but stil nid to take care about it.. any idea? |
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Aug 24 2009, 09:19 PM
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depend ur face/skin condition
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Aug 26 2009, 12:27 PM
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Himalaya?is it available at pharmancy?
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Aug 26 2009, 04:29 PM
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Hi, i got a very sensitive and acne active's oily skin. So can someone recomanded me some cleanser that available from Supermarket that can keep my face for oil free in a long period of time and it was also suitable for ppl that got acne to use it.
I heard that Nivea for Men the cleanser is suitable for oily skin but i'm not very sure , so once again hope some of you can recomand me some good cleanser that is available in Supermarket. |
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Aug 26 2009, 05:44 PM
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''simple'' mayb works best for u
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Aug 26 2009, 05:52 PM
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Thread title "Face cleanser for oily skin." merged..
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Aug 26 2009, 08:21 PM
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LaMer Products are quite good..
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Aug 29 2009, 12:13 PM
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before use focial foam to wash face, it is good to use make-up remover to remove all the dust 1st, as nowadays haze and dust everywhere...
importantly, understand your skin type.. my step is make-up remover, facial foam, toner, day cream or night cream (night cream is important as it protect ur skin for whole night)... |
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Aug 31 2009, 06:02 PM
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now i iz using facechop
green tea oil toner n mosturizer before sleep before going out i use skin 79 bb cream |
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Sep 1 2009, 05:17 PM
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iam usinb biotherm.but recently my skin got many acne and leaves acne mark.anyone got solution to reduce the mark?or get rid of it?
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Sep 7 2009, 11:37 PM
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Guys, do u have any recommendation to make the skin fair?
i had some time under the sun, that makes me dark.. im using biore got man... are most of u guys using tonner and moisturizer? if you guys do, let me know that brand. i wanted to buy loreal man range, but want to survey with u guys 1st. Thanks a million. |
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Sep 8 2009, 01:07 AM
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i using sebamed ,been using few month , it's quite ok for my skin . My skin is acne prone and oily combination. Now finding product to reduce acne scar
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Sep 8 2009, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(nicklaus @ Sep 7 2009, 11:37 PM) Guys, do u have any recommendation to make the skin fair? Go for skin care products with whitening effect like Bio-essense's Tanaka White set, Loreal Men's White Active cleanser with 360 Turnaround Whitening moisturizer or Nivea Whitening.i had some time under the sun, that makes me dark.. im using biore got man... are most of u guys using tonner and moisturizer? if you guys do, let me know that brand. i wanted to buy loreal man range, but want to survey with u guys 1st. Thanks a million. Previously I used Nivea but has now switched to Bio-essense. I also moisturize with Olay White Radiance after toning and apply whitening facial mask forth-nightly. I try to stay of Loreal's cleansers because my skin was sensitive to its exfoliating agents last time but then again, different people has different skin and sensitivity. |
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Sep 9 2009, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(FusioneX @ Sep 8 2009, 01:23 AM) Go for skin care products with whitening effect like Bio-essense's Tanaka White set, Loreal Men's White Active cleanser with 360 Turnaround Whitening moisturizer or Nivea Whitening. Thts a lot of facial to use..Previously I used Nivea but has now switched to Bio-essense. I also moisturize with Olay White Radiance after toning and apply whitening facial mask forth-nightly. I try to stay of Loreal's cleansers because my skin was sensitive to its exfoliating agents last time but then again, different people has different skin and sensitivity. i will give loreal man a tryout for a change. but what tonner are u using now? BTW: off topic, how abt hand le? does the whittening skin lotion works? |
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Sep 9 2009, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(nicklaus @ Sep 9 2009, 12:16 AM) Thts a lot of facial to use.. I'm using Bio-essense toner.i will give loreal man a tryout for a change. but what tonner are u using now? BTW: off topic, how abt hand le? does the whittening skin lotion works? If you want whitening products for your body that don't do much damage to your wallet, try Nivea's whitening regime: Nivea Whitening Milk cream for the day, Nivea Night Whitening cream for the night. I tried it and my arms are they are now slightly fairer compared to last time since I used to had a lot of sun exposure playing sports and driving last time. |
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Sep 13 2009, 08:15 PM
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Nowaday, guy using makeup remover, and BB cream, not bad!
I prefer start with Cleaning, after that, take a bottle that included SPF 15(at least) Moisturizer Product (Biore Oil Control Moisturizer Blue Bottle, recommended) apply twice a day. Ance problem can be solve by Body Shop Tea Tree Oil Product, you can go and look for it or www.the-body-shop-com If prefer to have very good looking clear and clean skin tone, Skin79 Diamond serie BB Cream is Recommended, for fair skin tone! Also, apply Anti aging product as well, if you reach age 28! |
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Sep 14 2009, 02:12 AM
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i'm 21 years old, oily skin.
i'm don't have seriously facial problems at the moment but i've got lots of scars from pimples...........i didn't know it could be this FATAL to squeeze them >.< any one knows how to remove these scars?? |
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Sep 14 2009, 09:48 AM
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for acne scar ....there is no product in the market that can actually remove those scars......
alternative.. laser treatment- remove a outer layer of your skin(repealing) but too expensive |
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Sep 16 2009, 10:31 AM
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What brand of facial Scrub is recommended?
What's exofiliating gel? |
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Sep 19 2009, 01:31 PM
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I've been using Lab Series Oil Control Solution for about 2 weeks now and so far so good. It really helps control my acne and facial oil. Only drawback is the price. For RM80 i get 100ml only. Previously i was using Clinique Clarifying Lotion #3...it's 200ml for RM78. Much more value than Lab Series but irritates my skin and does not really help in controlling acne.
Currently using Clinique Cleanser for oily/combination skin and Clinique Dramatically Different Moisturizing Gel. Both combined with the Lab Series oil Control Solution as a toner. Clinique Cleanser - Contains menthol and feels very refreshing after each wash but i've read that menthol is a skin irritant. Price is RM78 for 200ml. Planning to switch to Lab Series Oil Control Face Wash (RM90 for 125ml) once i finish the Clinique Cleanser. Clinique Dramatically Different Moisturizing Gel - One of the best out there for oily skin. Absorbs really fast and doesn't leave the skin shiny...in a way it even helps minimize shine. RM87 (50ml), RM150 (125ml). BTW, nothing wrong with using women's facial care products as I feel most of the men's stuff is just the same women's formula with more masculine packaging. Some of the men's facial products are even more expensive. For instance Clinique Skin Supplies For Men facial wash is RM78 for 150ml meanwhile the same women's facial wash is RM78 for 200ml. Same price but less content for the men. A Clinique consultant told me that the men's line is basically the same product as the women's line but repackaged so that men won't feel shy to buy. I've used both Clinique women and men lines before and i can honestly tell u guys that it's the same thing. So if u guys plan to buy Clinique Men's products, try to compare prices with the women's line to see which one has more value for money. Don't let marketing, packaging and the Clinique Sales Assistant next to u influence your decision. |
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Sep 19 2009, 01:55 PM
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Clinique not special for girl? Very expensive le.. USe generic stuff can? malaysian made?
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Sep 19 2009, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(f4tE @ Sep 19 2009, 01:55 PM) Clinique not special for girl? Very expensive le.. USe generic stuff can? malaysian made? Nope it's not special for girls. I've been using Clinique Women's facial products for about 8 months now and i don't think i've lost any of my masculinity It's all just marketing IMO. Nothing stopping you from using generic malaysian made stuff. Most important is the ingredients they use and whether or not those ingredients are good/not good for your skin. This post has been edited by jonny4: Sep 19 2009, 02:10 PM |
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Sep 19 2009, 02:48 PM
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then u use so long d your face now smooth and nice?
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Sep 19 2009, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(f4tE @ Sep 19 2009, 02:48 PM) then u use so long d your face now smooth and nice? Smoother yes but the Clinique Clarifying Lotion (toner) caused me to break out. For the 1st 2-3 months it was good after that the toner irritated my skin too much. But that time had about 100ml left so didn't want to waste it so continued using until 2 weeks ago i couldn't tahan anymore so went out and got Lab Series Oil Control Solution instead. Atm, my skin much better but need to wait 2-3 months to actually know whether Lab Series good or not. |
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Sep 19 2009, 03:36 PM
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is there like some professional place i could goto where they check your skin type and then suggest the best type of face care for you?
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Sep 19 2009, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Sep 19 2009, 03:36 PM) is there like some professional place i could goto where they check your skin type and then suggest the best type of face care for you? yes...if i'm not mistaken the shop or whatever u called it,is situated in the curve....the name is Willian Martins..hope this will help..i've been there only to realize that the shop has closed..hehe..i came a bit late that nite... |
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Sep 19 2009, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Sep 19 2009, 03:36 PM) is there like some professional place i could goto where they check your skin type and then suggest the best type of face care for you? As mentioned by Muhas86, William Martins is an option. Other places are Clinique and other cosmetic brand counters in department stores. Sometimes their opinion on your skin type differs from counter to counter. You can do it online too at the Clinique website.Added on September 19, 2009, 5:56 pmBtw, i called Willaim Martins the other day and i was told that there's a special 10% discount for members on all Lab Series products. Membership fee is RM12 for 2 years. Not sure whether there's any discount for other brands. Normally a member will get 5% discount on all products. Their prices are the same with the department stores. This post has been edited by jonny4: Sep 19 2009, 05:56 PM |
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Sep 19 2009, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Sep 19 2009, 05:53 PM) As mentioned by Muhas86, William Martins is an option. Other places are Clinique and other cosmetic brand counters in department stores. Sometimes their opinion on your skin type differs from counter to counter. You can do it online too at the Clinique website. that's true jonny4..different counter will give different result.....i'm happy to help u if u wanna know more.. Added on September 19, 2009, 5:56 pmBtw, i called Willaim Martins the other day and i was told that there's a special 10% discount for members on all Lab Series products. Membership fee is RM12 for 2 years. Not sure whether there's any discount for other brands. Normally a member will get 5% discount on all products. Their prices are the same with the department stores. |
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Sep 19 2009, 08:55 PM
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If go to the center such as william martins they will charge very expensive?
ANd the booth at shooping cener all girls 1 malu la. By the way, the toner you mentioned, toner not really necessary right |
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Sep 19 2009, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Sep 19 2009, 03:36 PM) is there like some professional place i could goto where they check your skin type and then suggest the best type of face care for you? Actually you can do it in a lot of place. I personally have my skin check at aster spring at sunway. They help me check, suggest the product for me, and call up to check the result after you using their product which i quite surprise. Even just minor facial , they call up after a week to follow up bout their client. |
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Sep 19 2009, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Sep 19 2009, 09:37 PM) Actually you can do it in a lot of place. I personally have my skin check at aster spring at sunway. They help me check, suggest the product for me, and call up to check the result after you using their product which i quite surprise. Even just minor facial , they call up after a week to follow up bout their client. but what about the results? im currently having these few pimples which just doesnt seem to wanna disappear.. |
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Sep 19 2009, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Sep 19 2009, 09:45 PM) but what about the results? Well , the result, is not as i expected. A little expensive, rm188 for their facial and their product cost me around rm600+ for 3 months. They using dermalogica product and i feel my face always the same. Not extra radiant or shinning. But the good thing is, my pimple and acne stop 3 months ago. They never come back so far.im currently having these few pimples which just doesnt seem to wanna disappear.. |
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Sep 19 2009, 09:52 PM
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anybody knows how to get rid of white heads? some just squeeze n squeeze and nothing comes out....it's so irritating...
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Sep 19 2009, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(muhas86 @ Sep 19 2009, 07:58 PM) that's true jonny4..different counter will give different result.....i'm happy to help u if u wanna know more.. I was wondering whether Shiseido Men facial products will be suitable for oily acne prone skin? I was out just now and was checking through the Shiseido Men product prices...RM90 for 125g facial cleanser, RM140 for 150ml toning lotion, etc. Shiseido seems a bit pricier compared to other brands. Also, is Shiseido any good ?Added on September 19, 2009, 10:45 pm QUOTE(chuakz @ Sep 19 2009, 09:52 PM) anybody knows how to get rid of white heads? some just squeeze n squeeze and nothing comes out....it's so irritating... you could try using a product that contains salicylic acid to exfoliate the pores and loosen the whiteheads. Benzoyl peroxide based products like Oxy for example has been proven to be one of the most effective over the counter medication against mild acne. However, we all here are not dermatologists so please consult one before trying anything new.This post has been edited by jonny4: Sep 19 2009, 10:45 PM |
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Sep 20 2009, 02:11 AM
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idk, out of all the pimple treatment products ive used, i cant say with assurance that they indeed work for me, i've never really consulted a dermatologist before, the only ones ive seen are those personnel in guardian who recommends some sort of product but idk, im made to believe these pimple treatment products are all crap..
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Sep 20 2009, 02:47 AM
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try OXY...
use 3 steps 1. Deep Cleansing Soap 2. Powder Lotion (my grandma said last time ppl use powder lotion) 3. Moisturizer... |
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Sep 20 2009, 11:47 AM
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[quote=jonny4,Sep 19 2009, 10:41 PM]
I was wondering whether Shiseido Men facial products will be suitable for oily acne prone skin? I was out just now and was checking through the Shiseido Men product prices...RM90 for 125g facial cleanser, RM140 for 150ml toning lotion, etc. Shiseido seems a bit pricier compared to other brands. Also, is Shiseido any good ? sorry but i'm not really know much about shiseido...any forummer willing to help jonny4? |
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Sep 20 2009, 06:25 PM
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Anyone had any experience with Lab Series Power Wash and Lab Series Water Lotion ?
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Sep 21 2009, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Sep 20 2009, 02:11 AM) idk, out of all the pimple treatment products ive used, i cant say with assurance that they indeed work for me, i've never really consulted a dermatologist before, the only ones ive seen are those personnel in guardian who recommends some sort of product but idk, im made to believe these pimple treatment products are all crap.. For those having problems with acne.. please read this thread. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=308877&hl=acne Its very informative. Follow the regimen in the first page. I highly recommend it. A lot of people have tried this regimen and it works.. Including me. Expensive cosmetics does not necessarily do the job, learn to read the labels. This post has been edited by myvi5949: Sep 21 2009, 07:51 PM |
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Sep 22 2009, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Sep 21 2009, 07:50 PM) For those having problems with acne.. please read this thread. good thread.. thanks for informing us..http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=308877&hl=acne Its very informative. Follow the regimen in the first page. I highly recommend it. A lot of people have tried this regimen and it works.. Including me. Expensive cosmetics does not necessarily do the job, learn to read the labels. |
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Sep 22 2009, 04:19 PM
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Yeah its quite good actually. Tried the regimen and it work out for me. No more acne since i started on it.
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Sep 22 2009, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Sep 22 2009, 04:19 PM) Yeah its quite good actually. Tried the regimen and it work out for me. No more acne since i started on it. cool, im gonna try it too.. i guess the one thing i learned from that thread is to stick to one cleanser first.. once the pimples/acne have cleared, then we can add/remove one variable at a time.. oh and not to cleanse our faces too often..Added on September 22, 2009, 4:44 pmbut one thing, so once we apply the pimple cream, then apply the moisturizer on top of it right away? or do we wait for some time? and then for the moisturizer, apply all over face or just on the pimples? This post has been edited by jind86: Sep 22 2009, 04:44 PM |
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Sep 22 2009, 05:11 PM
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I would apply a generous amount of benzoyl peroxide all over my face.. wait a couple minutes for it to dry and then apply moisturizer.
Moisturizer is only to protect ur skin from the elements, especially from the sun. Preferably u should get a non-alcoholic moisturizer with good amount of spf protection. Its an option, wear it went u go out. Apply a thin layer only.. u dont want to clog the pores. The key to this regimen is to keep it simple. You dont want to add unnecessary chemical/cosmetic stuff on your face. Benzoyl Peroxide kills acne.. apparently people have known this for a while. But they apply the BP wrongly. That's why breakout still happen. |
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Sep 22 2009, 06:49 PM
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For my personal experience that,
you have to using a suitable cleanser. Guy normally have oily skin, scrub cleanser is good for daily use. If got not really serius pimple or acne problems, Tea Tree Oil is good for that. Because some products like Oxy, somehow, it 'burn' your skin surface, to make it dry(black, sometimes) and tear off after few days(weeks, may say!).. Now i prefer to use anti aging products, including SPF 25, also gel type moisturizer to 'matt' your skin and firm it up! Dont forget, lip balm ! I dont know whether you guy using some foudation to conceal your ance or whatsoever... But BB Cream is the top choice now, it doesnt appear like a makeup or cosmetics, but it really make our guys skin more flawless, and energy looks! Cheers! |
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Sep 22 2009, 09:22 PM
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Another good medication for more severe acne is Retin-A. I'm not sure whether it's available over the counter but when i used it years ago it was. Retin-A is very strong and it actually makes the skin on your face peel. Once i had a pimple near the side of my mouth and i applied some Retin-A there...2 nights later that part of the mouth started to dry up real bad and started to bleed. Not a happy experience. If u guys do decide to use Retin-A remember to use moiturizer and sunscreen...it's absolutely vital.
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Sep 23 2009, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Sep 22 2009, 04:38 PM) cool, im gonna try it too.. i guess the one thing i learned from that thread is to stick to one cleanser first.. once the pimples/acne have cleared, then we can add/remove one variable at a time.. oh and not to cleanse our faces too often.. for me, clean the face, apply toner, apply moisturizer,apply bh cream(black/white head cream), apply thin layer of pimple cream(oxy) all over my face thn apply eye serum/cream in small amount...lastly apply just on the pimple with pimple cream...Added on September 22, 2009, 4:44 pmbut one thing, so once we apply the pimple cream, then apply the moisturizer on top of it right away? or do we wait for some time? and then for the moisturizer, apply all over face or just on the pimples? |
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Sep 24 2009, 12:02 PM
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those cheap Oxy stuff are good at getting rid of pimples but i heard that theyre bad for the skin
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Sep 24 2009, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(Lamb Of Dog @ Sep 24 2009, 12:02 PM) those cheap Oxy stuff are good at getting rid of pimples but i heard that theyre bad for the skin yaya..it's bad for skin that is why i m not dare to use other oxy product other thn the pimple cream...haha ..after u use the oxy pimple cream, u will find that your skin turns dry ...so for the remoisturizing, i am using nuskin enhancer gel(active ingredient:aloe vera)...apply thin layer allover my face every night.... it's help to moisturize your face |
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Sep 24 2009, 08:39 PM
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Oxy killed my face once. I will advice anyone to avoid it, especially Oxy 10. Even Oxy 5 with 5% B.P is way to harsh for our skin. Oxy not too effective against acne. If you going for this product, be sure that you have pimple and not acne.
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Sep 25 2009, 12:45 AM
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use oxy cleanser + powder lotion (last time ppl use powder lotion to maintain smooth skin) + moisturizer....
dont use the pimple cream..B.P is very strong..only recommend to use 5%.. but those who sensitive skins better not use B.P products.. |
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Sep 26 2009, 10:33 PM
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Please dont use Oxy. Its too harsh.. to prevent acne, the amount of Benzoyl Peroxide does not matter..its a marketing gimmick that they provide u with 5%, 10% strength. Instead, use 2.5% strength BP cream like PanOxyl and Neutrogena On-the-spot. Its works just as good as 10% BP cream..and its easier on the skin.
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Sep 26 2009, 10:38 PM
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neutrogena on-the-spot no longer on sales rite? im following the regimen now keke.. got excited the other day when you posted up the link, read it through and went right on the same day and got the cetaphil, panoxyl, and neutrogena moisturizer.. lol..
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Sep 26 2009, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Sep 26 2009, 10:33 PM) Please dont use Oxy. Its too harsh.. to prevent acne, the amount of Benzoyl Peroxide does not matter..its a marketing gimmick that they provide u with 5%, 10% strength. Instead, use 2.5% strength BP cream like PanOxyl and Neutrogena On-the-spot. Its works just as good as 10% BP cream..and its easier on the skin. Not as good as 10% BP. It a lot better. From my experience , the 10% and 5% BP burn my skin and make my skin become sensitive. I use Oxy for around 6 months, and after 6 months, my face so reddish and pimple keep popping up. So i invest more on higher end product such as SK2 ,Kose and end up i have to consult dr.nathan .This post has been edited by Cyclone87: Sep 26 2009, 11:29 PM |
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Sep 27 2009, 03:53 PM
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anybody having problem with facial hair? after shaving still look not shave?
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Sep 27 2009, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(weiliang88 @ Sep 27 2009, 03:53 PM) anybody having problem with facial hair? after shaving still look not shave? Try investing some money in a more expensive razor. Try wet shaving instead of using a electric shaver.If u want that really clean look u see on tv, try shaving against the grain. But beware though as shaving against the grain can irritate your skin so a good after shave is important. I used to shave against the grain but it gave me a lot of razor bumps. |
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Sep 27 2009, 05:35 PM
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i shave againts the grain too, but it doesnt seems to be working..
thinking of laser but heard that its expensive.. |
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Sep 27 2009, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(weiliang88 @ Sep 27 2009, 05:35 PM) i shave againts the grain too, but it doesnt seems to be working.. Laser ?? thinking of laser but heard that its expensive.. Dude some guys out there will sell their soul to the devil to be able to grow a decent looking beard LOL But to each his own. I have heard of lasers but i personally feel it's too drastic. |
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Nov 15 2009, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Sep 22 2009, 09:22 PM) Another good medication for more severe acne is Retin-A. I'm not sure whether it's available over the counter but when i used it years ago it was. Retin-A is very strong and it actually makes the skin on your face peel. Once i had a pimple near the side of my mouth and i applied some Retin-A there...2 nights later that part of the mouth started to dry up real bad and started to bleed. Not a happy experience. If u guys do decide to use Retin-A remember to use moiturizer and sunscreen...it's absolutely vital. I am currently under Retina A medication for my pores. I like it. It is so effective. However, dr has advised me not to expose myself under the sun while using it.Went for skin checkup and was told that my skin has turned to a sensitive skin, i suppose due to Retina A which peels off my face's dead skin. So as of now, i only apply at night as opposed to previously apply 2 times per day. |
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Nov 15 2009, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Nov 15 2009, 10:32 AM) I am currently under Retina A medication for my pores. I like it. It is so effective. However, dr has advised me not to expose myself under the sun while using it. You should invest in a good sunblock even if u r using Retin A once a day. I overapplied the last time i used Retin A and my skin suffered badly. Went for skin checkup and was told that my skin has turned to a sensitive skin, i suppose due to Retina A which peels off my face's dead skin. So as of now, i only apply at night as opposed to previously apply 2 times per day. Can we get Retin A without a prescription ? |
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Nov 15 2009, 02:36 PM
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any recommendation for acne and oily face..i mean extremely oily face
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Nov 15 2009, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Nov 15 2009, 12:20 PM) You should invest in a good sunblock even if u r using Retin A once a day. I overapplied the last time i used Retin A and my skin suffered badly. well i was told by the dr not to apply anything to avoid the effect being lessen. So i didnot apply anything except Retina A. When i was exposed under the sun, my face was red like no one's business until my col asked if i were ok. Can we get Retin A without a prescription ?  Added on November 15, 2009, 5:30 pm QUOTE(Mooneyes @ Nov 15 2009, 02:36 PM) any recommendation for acne and oily face..i mean extremely oily face can try 128's face serumi am using it right now. quite good. my face is no longer oily. This post has been edited by de.crystal: Nov 15 2009, 05:30 PM |
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QUOTE(Mooneyes @ Nov 15 2009, 02:36 PM) any recommendation for acne and oily face..i mean extremely oily face I would like to recommend you Loreal Men Expert Pure & Matte Series Cleanser+Toner+Gel. |
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Nov 17 2009, 02:25 AM
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QUOTE(Mooneyes @ Nov 15 2009, 02:36 PM) any recommendation for acne and oily face..i mean extremely oily face oxy 3 step1. oxy acne cleanser 2. oxy powder lotion 3. oxy oil - free moistureizer... try..i have oil face too after using no more oily face |
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Nov 17 2009, 09:42 AM
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any portable products for oily face...?
QUOTE ahh saw already up ther 128' This post has been edited by mastering89: Nov 17 2009, 09:44 AM |
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Nov 17 2009, 09:42 AM) any portable products for oily face...? u mean something like oil wipe tissue? |
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Dec 6 2009, 09:46 PM
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hey guys,
for those who got sensitive skin, aging skin , acne skin or who ever want to improve ur skin please pm me for more details. professional advise will be provided =) |
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Dec 6 2009, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(spiller46 @ Dec 6 2009, 09:46 PM) hey guys, Are you a licensed dermatologist ? for those who got sensitive skin, aging skin , acne skin or who ever want to improve ur skin please pm me for more details. professional advise will be provided =) If No then your "professional advise" is as good as my mum's. |
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Dec 7 2009, 01:09 AM
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maybe he's catching people for the MLM or Traditional chinese med -.-
advise for all.. dun try unless proven scientifically... |
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Dec 29 2009, 10:27 PM
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how to know what skin type is our face? is the any place we can check because i dont have any idea what type of skin i have
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Dec 29 2009, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(1zR4eL @ Dec 29 2009, 10:27 PM) how to know what skin type is our face? is the any place we can check because i dont have any idea what type of skin i have You can try Clinique http://www.clinique.com/Click on the "My Skin Consultation" tab and proceed. Careful the sound volume on the website is very high ! It's not 100% effective though but can serve as a rough guide. You could also pop by a Clinique counter and they will so a skin analysis for you. Actually most high end brand consultants can do it for you for free. Just be nice to them and u might even get some free samples |
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Dec 30 2009, 09:53 AM
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Any recommended place for me to do some facial? Thank you
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Jan 7 2010, 06:43 PM
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Loreal is not bad..
dun simply use shampoo..the skin will be so dry while ''aging process''.. |
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Jan 8 2010, 04:06 PM
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Each person's skin type is different from the other so I guess there is no "best" product in the market. The only way is through trial and error I guess...
I am using Biotherm at the moment (cleanser + toner + moisturiser). The one endorsed by Takashi. This is the best for me so far. Not that I had problematic skin before this. A lil' oily and and some blemishes occassionally but after using Biotherm, my skin improved pretty much. It is not as oily as before and the blemishes cleared. Although it costs more than off-the-shelf brands, it lasts much, much longer (dunno why), and is more effective (in my opinion). I was using Loreal for men before Biotherm and I personally don't think it is that good. But it's just my opinion. Maybe it is not suitable for my skin. The moisturiser made my face oily after application and my skin did not improve. The moisturiser finished just after 3 months. I have been using Biotherm for more than 6 months now and there is about half left. And no, I am not a spokesperson for Biotherm. Just another consumer giving an honest opinion. It's not just Biotherm, but I personally believe that the more expensive brands like Dermalogica, Clinique, and the likes are way better than off-the-shelf brands. My tip to clean your face with a cleanser Wash your face twice each time! Wash your face with a small amount of cleanser then rinse off. After that, use the normal amount to wash the second time. Your face will feel much cleaner. This works for me, but no guarantee that it will work for you  Cheers! Ronn |
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QUOTE(ron c @ Jan 8 2010, 04:06 PM) Each person's skin type is different from the other so I guess there is no "best" product in the market. The only way is through trial and error I guess... Which Biotherm products specifically do u use ? Have u used anything in the T-Pur range b4 ?I am using Biotherm at the moment (cleanser + toner + moisturiser). The one endorsed by Takashi. This is the best for me so far. Not that I had problematic skin before this. A lil' oily and and some blemishes occassionally but after using Biotherm, my skin improved pretty much. It is not as oily as before and the blemishes cleared. Although it costs more than off-the-shelf brands, it lasts much, much longer (dunno why), and is more effective (in my opinion). I was using Loreal for men before Biotherm and I personally don't think it is that good. But it's just my opinion. Maybe it is not suitable for my skin. The moisturiser made my face oily after application and my skin did not improve. The moisturiser finished just after 3 months. I have been using Biotherm for more than 6 months now and there is about half left. And no, I am not a spokesperson for Biotherm. Just another consumer giving an honest opinion. It's not just Biotherm, but I personally believe that the more expensive brands like Dermalogica, Clinique, and the likes are way better than off-the-shelf brands. My tip to clean your face with a cleanser Wash your face twice each time! Wash your face with a small amount of cleanser then rinse off. After that, use the normal amount to wash the second time. Your face will feel much cleaner. This works for me, but no guarantee that it will work for you Cheers! Ronn This post has been edited by jonny4: Jan 8 2010, 04:39 PM |
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 8 2010, 04:38 PM) Which Biotherm products specifically do u use ? Have u used anything in the T-Pur range b4 ? I am actually using the T-Pur range:Cleanser: T-pur Intense. Anti-Shine Facial Cleanser Toner: T-pur Intense Lotion Moisturiser: T-pur Intense Moisturiser,Anti-Shine All three for about RM260 http://www.biothermsg.com/homme_highlights.php Disclaimer: This may work for me but not neccessarily for everyone. Just my experience with cleansers and face care products. Cheers, Ronn |
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Jan 8 2010, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(ron c @ Jan 8 2010, 05:19 PM) I am actually using the T-Pur range: Thanks for sharing. Cleanser: T-pur Intense. Anti-Shine Facial Cleanser Toner: T-pur Intense Lotion Moisturiser: T-pur Intense Moisturiser,Anti-Shine All three for about RM260 http://www.biothermsg.com/homme_highlights.php Disclaimer: This may work for me but not neccessarily for everyone. Just my experience with cleansers and face care products. Cheers, Ronn I am quite interested in the T Pure Toner actually. Does it leave any kind of residue on the face ? The last time I tried it at the counter I didn't really like the smell. |
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Jan 8 2010, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 8 2010, 05:53 PM) Thanks for sharing. The toner is a clear liquid just like water but with a thicker consistency. It doesn't leave any residue.I am quite interested in the T Pure Toner actually. Does it leave any kind of residue on the face ? The last time I tried it at the counter I didn't really like the smell. For me the smell is ok. It just smells a little, but it's not a bad smell. |
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Jan 8 2010, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(ron c @ Jan 8 2010, 07:36 PM) The toner is a clear liquid just like water but with a thicker consistency. It doesn't leave any residue. AlrightFor me the smell is ok. It just smells a little, but it's not a bad smell. How long does the 200ml bottle last u ? How much do u use ? My current toner (Clinique Scruffing Lotion 200ml) lasts me about 4-5 months and is slightly cheaper than the T Pur toner. I'm thinking of switching to T Pur but I just want to know if it can last as long as my Clinique. The thick consistency makes me assume that I will have to squeeze out more onto the cotton pad. |
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Jan 9 2010, 03:22 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 8 2010, 08:10 PM) Alright The T-pur is also 200ml.How long does the 200ml bottle last u ? How much do u use ? My current toner (Clinique Scruffing Lotion 200ml) lasts me about 4-5 months and is slightly cheaper than the T Pur toner. I'm thinking of switching to T Pur but I just want to know if it can last as long as my Clinique. The thick consistency makes me assume that I will have to squeeze out more onto the cotton pad. I am not exactly sure how long I have been using it but it's definitely more than 6 months and there is about half left. Doesn't really make sense but seriously, no joke. The T-pur toner can be hard to apply if you put it dircetly on the facial cotton cos' the toner will get absorbed. I dab the toner on my face with my fingers, then spread it with a facial cotton with a little toner on it as well. Try not to apply excessively. The amount that I use is just enough to cover the whole face with a thin layer of cleanser/ toner/ moisturiser and that is enough to see results within 4 months of usage. No point using too much in one application I guess. It just goes to waste. |
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Jan 9 2010, 11:19 AM
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are those facial bars like eumora sold at lyn are any better...??
anybody has tried before? please comment... |
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Jan 9 2010, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(ch@ich@i @ Jan 9 2010, 11:19 AM) are those facial bars like eumora sold at lyn are any better...?? not recommended for dry skin.anybody has tried before? please comment... |
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Jan 12 2010, 07:56 PM
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I recently bought Biotherm Homme T Pur toner after ron c's recommendation and its really quite good and one of the better toners i have used. I prefer it to the Clinique and Lab Series toners that were quite harsh.
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Jan 13 2010, 02:37 AM
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I've been using the Biotherm T-Pur range for a over 5 yrs now. Well i guess it suits me and so far no complaints. Hahaha.
Yeah it's a tad on the higher price range but I guess my oily face problem can be controlled, which I'm grateful for. |
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Jan 13 2010, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 12 2010, 07:56 PM) I recently bought Biotherm Homme T Pur toner after ron c's recommendation and its really quite good and one of the better toners i have used. I prefer it to the Clinique and Lab Series toners that were quite harsh. for the lab series toner which one u use? is it the water lotion? |
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Jan 13 2010, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(1zR4eL @ Jan 13 2010, 10:17 PM) for the lab series toner which one u use? is it the water lotion? I used the oil Control Solution. RM80 for 100ml and it lasted me only 2 months (i use it twice a day) It wasn't really economical so that's why I switched to Clinique Scruffing Lotion which was double the size for the same price. But Clinique was overly strong and mostly contained alcohol, witch hazel, salicylic acid and preservatives. So that's why Biotherm appealed to me. The Water Lotion quite expensive too (RM100 for 200ml) and when i tried it felt like water+alcohol and didn't seem worth the price. |
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Jan 15 2010, 05:38 PM
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Guys,
My skin type is so oily. I do wash my face 2 time a day but the result still the same. I use Labs product. The Oil control foam and Oil control Solution. Still didn't work out. Basiaclly my face easily get oil after 2-3 wash. Some under hot conditon sure shining my forehaed.. Any other product recommendation? (Loreal+Nivia not working at all. Same result after use) |
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Jan 15 2010, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(ibrick @ Jan 15 2010, 05:38 PM) Guys, I previously used the Lab Series Oil Control Face Wash and Oil Control Solution. The face wash was ok but overpriced and finished too fast. The Oil Control Solution didn't really control Oil at all. Right now I am using Lab Series Power Wash, Biotherm Homme T Pur Intense Lotion (toner) and Clinique M Gel Lotion (moisturizer). Same like u i use those products twice a day. Ever since I started using the Biotherm toner last week, the oil production has significantly lessened. So it seems to do the trick for me. My skin type is so oily. I do wash my face 2 time a day but the result still the same. I use Labs product. The Oil control foam and Oil control Solution. Still didn't work out. Basiaclly my face easily get oil after 2-3 wash. Some under hot conditon sure shining my forehaed.. Any other product recommendation? (Loreal+Nivia not working at all. Same result after use) Do u use a moisturizer ? Most of the time ppl with oily skin think that they don't need a moisturizer but actually they do because the drier your skin gets the more oil is produced. So if u don't use a moisturizer start using one. You can try the various oil control products. Almost all brands have one of these. I have tried the Biotherm one but I didn't really see a difference compared to my normal clinique m gel. Most of these oil control products are expensive, about RM140 for 50ml. What u mean by "Basiaclly my face easily get oil after 2-3 wash" ? This post has been edited by jonny4: Jan 15 2010, 06:32 PM |
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Jan 15 2010, 07:03 PM
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AHhh.. I got use moisturizer.. brand know Simple. But still oily. Sorry for the non complete statement. Basically ,my face will get back oily 2-3 hour after wash.. Need to go down to toilet to wash again. I also got use oily paper from gatsby. Very useful in various situation.. But still looking for correct product for my face..
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Jan 15 2010, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(ibrick @ Jan 15 2010, 07:03 PM) AHhh.. I got use moisturizer.. brand know Simple. But still oily. Sorry for the non complete statement. Basically ,my face will get back oily 2-3 hour after wash.. Need to go down to toilet to wash again. I also got use oily paper from gatsby. Very useful in various situation.. But still looking for correct product for my face.. I got the Simple moisturizer too...is it the normal one or the oil control one ? The normal one too oily la...more suitable for at night or body. If u got money to spend then a oil control moisturizer should be good for u. If not then a very light moisturizing gel like clinique m gel should be alright. I use those blotters too and yeah they really come in handy. But when come to skin products it all comes down to trial and error as everyone's skin is different. Here are some examples: http://bit.ly/7F3apI http://bit.ly/6CxuFj http://bit.ly/5S0Mwv |
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Jan 16 2010, 01:02 AM
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Okok. Thx dude. That really help me out..
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Jan 17 2010, 04:23 AM
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Try this for a change...
For oil control currently using Dermalogica: Cleanser: Dermal clay cleanser - best for oily skin control Toner: multi-active toner Moisturizer: skin smoothing cream. Effective: helped reduce oiliness, but not pimples. To try list: SK II's miracle water. Looking for: need to do Facial, extraction of pimples etc... any recommendations? |
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Jan 18 2010, 12:00 AM
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ooo.. Okok
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Jan 18 2010, 10:09 AM
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For those who are interested with Demalogica product or have questions relating to your facial care...
Try this thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/175726 --- by the way, i am a leonard drake client... why am i saying this, cause i ain't promoting her product (though they sell the same stuff i.e. demalogica) |
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Jan 21 2010, 09:32 PM
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anybody tried out clinique for men?
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Jan 21 2010, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(weiliang88 @ Jan 21 2010, 09:32 PM) anybody tried out clinique for men? Most Clinique for Men products are just repackaged women's products and sometimes more expensive. For example the men facial soap comes in 150ml only and retails for the same price as the women liquid facial soap. But the catch is the women one comes in 200ml size. both are the same (i used both before). Even the Clinique SA told me to get the women one as it is more worth it LOL. The Liquid Face Wash is just average and can be a little drying for some people. The Scruffing lotions are mainly alcohol, witch hazel and salicylic acid and are really overpriced. You could get something similar in ingredients and size for a quarter of the price (RM78, 200ml) at Guardian/Watsons. The products I like are the M Gel Lotion (same as the women moisture gel) and facial scrub. There are many other products in the men range but those I mentioned above are the ones I have used before. I must stress that everyone skin is different and the products that didn't work for me might work for u and vice versa. I used Clinique products (men and women) for a year before trying Lab Series and recently Biotherm Homme. My favourite is Biotherm Homme. But nothing beats the Clinique M Gel Lotion. |
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Jan 21 2010, 11:09 PM
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then can i asked? like my face has hair problem? doesnt really give me a clean shave.. what to do about it? other than laser / wax
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Jan 21 2010, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(weiliang88 @ Jan 21 2010, 11:09 PM) then can i asked? like my face has hair problem? doesnt really give me a clean shave.. what to do about it? other than laser / wax Sorry can't help u on your hairy problem. While u want less hair on the face, i want more facial hair LOL. |
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Jan 22 2010, 05:36 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 21 2010, 10:51 PM) Most Clinique for Men products are just repackaged women's products and sometimes more expensive. For example the men facial soap comes in 150ml only and retails for the same price as the women liquid facial soap. But the catch is the women one comes in 200ml size. both are the same (i used both before). Even the Clinique SA told me to get the women one as it is more worth it LOL. You have great knowledge of care product. Do you work for this industry or your enthusiasm towards care product?The Liquid Face Wash is just average and can be a little drying for some people. The Scruffing lotions are mainly alcohol, witch hazel and salicylic acid and are really overpriced. You could get something similar in ingredients and size for a quarter of the price (RM78, 200ml) at Guardian/Watsons. The products I like are the M Gel Lotion (same as the women moisture gel) and facial scrub. There are many other products in the men range but those I mentioned above are the ones I have used before. I must stress that everyone skin is different and the products that didn't work for me might work for u and vice versa. I used Clinique products (men and women) for a year before trying Lab Series and recently Biotherm Homme. My favourite is Biotherm Homme. But nothing beats the Clinique M Gel Lotion. |
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Jan 22 2010, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(Putraskyline @ Jan 22 2010, 05:36 AM) You have great knowledge of care product. Do you work for this industry or your enthusiasm towards care product? HahaNo la I don't work in the industry. I just have an interest in taking care of my face as I suffer from acne since my teens. Some guys lucky because they don't have to do much to have good skin unlike me. I do hope one day I can just wash face and be done rather then going through so many steps like now. So far so good, I think I'm getting there. |
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Jan 22 2010, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 22 2010, 09:20 AM) Haha Haha....Okay then. Btw I just bought my 1st Biotherm product. I choose Aquapower since the sales girl said I don't need T-Pur. I feel different after a week using it. Before this I'm using Clinique.No la I don't work in the industry. I just have an interest in taking care of my face as I suffer from acne since my teens. Some guys lucky because they don't have to do much to have good skin unlike me. I do hope one day I can just wash face and be done rather then going through so many steps like now. So far so good, I think I'm getting there. This post has been edited by Putraskyline: Jan 22 2010, 09:32 AM |
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Jan 22 2010, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(Putraskyline @ Jan 22 2010, 09:31 AM) Haha....Okay then. Btw I just bought my 1st Biotherm product. I choose Aquapower since the sales girl said I don't need T-Pur. I feel different after a week using it. Before this I'm using Clinique. The Aquapower moisturizer ? How much is it and did u get any free gifts/samples ? How did u find Clinique ? |
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Jan 22 2010, 10:25 PM
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any products/methods recommended to remove pimple scars (dark spots)?
Added on January 22, 2010, 10:27 pmso basically what's the ideal steps to face care? first i start of with a cleanser/swap with a scrub every once awhile.. i use them once in the morning and before i go to bed.. after the cleanser, i use a toner (i use twice as well but is it too much?) followed by moisturizer.. This post has been edited by jind86: Jan 22 2010, 10:27 PM |
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Jan 22 2010, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Jan 22 2010, 10:25 PM) any products/methods recommended to remove pimple scars (dark spots)? For scars u could use products containing glycolic acid (alpha hydroxy acid) to exfoliate skin and lighten acne scars over time. Glycolic acid is strong and will cause redness and irritation on some people and u will need to use sunscreen. Added on January 22, 2010, 10:27 pmso basically what's the ideal steps to face care? first i start of with a cleanser/swap with a scrub every once awhile.. i use them once in the morning and before i go to bed.. after the cleanser, i use a toner (i use twice as well but is it too much?) followed by moisturizer.. The most important thing in any skincare regime is cleansing and moisturising. toners, scrubs and etc are not really vital. U just got to mix and match to see what suits your skin. Toners can be used twice a day just make sure it doesn't dry up your skin. If your toner contains alcohol then u need to moisturize...actually everyone needs to use a moisturizer at least once a day. Make sure the scrub u use doesn't contain stuff like crushed apricot seeds/shells like those in the St.Ives Apricot scrub. This is because they make microscopic cuts on your skin which leads to infection and pimples. Instead go for scrubs with micro beads (polyethylene spheres). I learned this the hard way. Also, look out for products with salicylic acid (beta hydroxy acid) as SA is quite good in deep cleansing your pores. Your skincare regime is similar to mine. But i scrub and mask twice a week and use panoxyl 5% before i apply moisturizer at night. I might be stopping the use of a toner though as I find it the least effective of all my products and sometimes a waste of time. I must stress that the ingredients and products above are more suited for oilier/acne prone skins. It won't be suitable for dry/sensitive skins. |
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Jan 22 2010, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 22 2010, 11:04 PM) For scars u could use products containing glycolic acid (alpha hydroxy acid) to exfoliate skin and lighten acne scars over time. Glycolic acid is strong and will cause redness and irritation on some people and u will need to use sunscreen. any recommended brands for the products which contain glycolic acid?The most important thing in any skincare regime is cleansing and moisturising. toners, scrubs and etc are not really vital. U just got to mix and match to see what suits your skin. Toners can be used twice a day just make sure it doesn't dry up your skin. If your toner contains alcohol then u need to moisturize...actually everyone needs to use a moisturizer at least once a day. Make sure the scrub u use doesn't contain stuff like crushed apricot seeds/shells like those in the St.Ives Apricot scrub. This is because they make microscopic cuts on your skin which leads to infection and pimples. Instead go for scrubs with micro beads (polyethylene spheres). I learned this the hard way. Also, look out for products with salicylic acid (beta hydroxy acid) as SA is quite good in deep cleansing your pores. Your skincare regime is similar to mine. But i scrub and mask twice a week and use panoxyl 5% before i apply moisturizer at night. I might be stopping the use of a toner though as I find it the least effective of all my products and sometimes a waste of time. I must stress that the ingredients and products above are more suited for oilier/acne prone skins. It won't be suitable for dry/sensitive skins. hmmm.. my toner doesn't contain any alcohol.. lol actually i just purchased the St. Ives Apricot scrub am and using it now.. is it that bad? hmmm.. then which brand of scrub would you recommend? |
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Jan 22 2010, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Jan 22 2010, 11:12 PM) any recommended brands for the products which contain glycolic acid? I am using Modern Friction by Origins. After scrub it's giving the polished look where skin feels much more smoother and clear. On a more gentle basis, I use Kiehl's Pineapple and Papaya Scrub.hmmm.. my toner doesn't contain any alcohol.. lol actually i just purchased the St. Ives Apricot scrub am and using it now.. is it that bad? hmmm.. then which brand of scrub would you recommend? |
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Jan 22 2010, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Jan 22 2010, 11:12 PM) any recommended brands for the products which contain glycolic acid? A lot of products nowadays contain glycolic acid especially the ones that lighten skin. Glycolic acid is derived mainly from sugar cane. citric acid is also a form of AHA. However, I just recently discovered glycolic acid and have researched a lot about it. I am planning to get this http://bit.ly/8ckxIG tomorrow. It contains glycolic acid and other good active ingredients...price is a little high so im hoping it works. hmmm.. my toner doesn't contain any alcohol.. lol actually i just purchased the St. Ives Apricot scrub am and using it now.. is it that bad? hmmm.. then which brand of scrub would you recommend? The Apricot scrub is not that bad but u must be extremely gentle when scrubbing as the scrub particles are rough and coarse and can easily irritate skin. Couple of days after I used it, I had a few breakouts so i use the Apricot scrub as a body scrub nowadays. Currently I am using the Lab Series scrub and I am planning to switch to the Clinique Men scrub once the LS finishes. If your toner no alcohol then should be ok as long as it is for your skin type. But u still need to moisturize. What moisturizer u currently using ? |
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Jan 23 2010, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 22 2010, 11:49 PM) A lot of products nowadays contain glycolic acid especially the ones that lighten skin. Glycolic acid is derived mainly from sugar cane. citric acid is also a form of AHA. However, I just recently discovered glycolic acid and have researched a lot about it. I am planning to get this http://bit.ly/8ckxIG tomorrow. It contains glycolic acid and other good active ingredients...price is a little high so im hoping it works. ahh ok..The Apricot scrub is not that bad but u must be extremely gentle when scrubbing as the scrub particles are rough and coarse and can easily irritate skin. Couple of days after I used it, I had a few breakouts so i use the Apricot scrub as a body scrub nowadays. Currently I am using the Lab Series scrub and I am planning to switch to the Clinique Men scrub once the LS finishes. If your toner no alcohol then should be ok as long as it is for your skin type. But u still need to moisturize. What moisturizer u currently using ? im currently using the nivea caring lotion, the only reason im using this is because it contains vitamin E, which i read was good for curing scars as well.. |
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Jan 23 2010, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Jan 23 2010, 12:54 AM) ahh ok.. Alright. When it comes to skin care best is to use whatever suits u.im currently using the nivea caring lotion, the only reason im using this is because it contains vitamin E, which i read was good for curing scars as well.. |
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Jan 23 2010, 07:41 PM
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I'm using both Biore for Man Acne & Oil Block facial foam and Deep Clean Action facial scrub for years now. Scrub only twice a week and didn't use any toner/moisturizer/etc. Now bought Loreal Pure & Matte Anti-Sebum facial scrub to try haha!
Wonder if it's any good. And yeah, most facial products contain glycol now. |
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Jan 23 2010, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Jan 23 2010, 07:41 PM) I'm using both Biore for Man Acne & Oil Block facial foam and Deep Clean Action facial scrub for years now. Scrub only twice a week and didn't use any toner/moisturizer/etc. Now bought Loreal Pure & Matte Anti-Sebum facial scrub to try haha! There is a difference between glycol and glycolic acid btw. Wonder if it's any good. And yeah, most facial products contain glycol now. I'm not a fan of L'Oreal products as the fragrance is just too strong for me. |
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Jan 23 2010, 09:57 PM
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Really? Oh then not all got glycolic acid
 L'Oreal's seriously smells weird, it don't smells like fragrance, but rather like raw earth or something. |
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Jan 23 2010, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Jan 23 2010, 09:57 PM) Really? Oh then not all got glycolic acid Raw earth ? hmmm...does the scrub contain bentonite/kaolin/magnesium aluminium silicate? Those are different names for clay...so maybe that's why got an earthy smell. I get that too from some oil control cleansers and masks. L'Oreal's seriously smells weird, it don't smells like fragrance, but rather like raw earth or something. |
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Jan 23 2010, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 23 2010, 09:11 AM) Alright. When it comes to skin care best is to use whatever suits u. how do i know what suits me? |
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Jan 23 2010, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Jan 23 2010, 11:33 PM) how do i know what suits me? Do some research online and visit those facial brand counters. This way u will get a rough idea the kind of products your skin needs. U could also log on to the Clinique website to take the test to determine your skin type. But the test is not very accurate and only gives a rough idea. It also involves a lot of trial and error to find out what suits u, but most importantly if u got oily skin use only oily skin products and vice versa. My general idea to skin care is "you get what u pay for". |
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Jan 25 2010, 11:12 AM
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so far no problem using CLINIQUE
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Jan 25 2010, 12:05 PM
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i'm currently using lab series and it's not very effective at getting rid of red pimple marks although i only get like a big once in a couple of months. the spot stays there for like months. i'm probably gonna give biotherm a try, the one jonny recommended since it has peeling effect but i dunno if its overkill though.
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Jan 25 2010, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(rockets @ Jan 25 2010, 12:05 PM) i'm currently using lab series and it's not very effective at getting rid of red pimple marks although i only get like a big once in a couple of months. the spot stays there for like months. i'm probably gonna give biotherm a try, the one jonny recommended since it has peeling effect but i dunno if its overkill though. The peeling effect is not obvious at all but i do notice some reduction of my acne scars after using for about a week. But that could be caused by other products I use. So I have to use for a few more weeks to see if it really works. Biotherm claims the moisturizer has oil controlling properties but so far I would rate oil control as slightly above average. Lab Series stuff quite basic but I do like the Power Wash (last for ages) and the Clay Mask. But I agree wit you, they don't do much for reducing scars. I spotted this product, http://bit.ly/5CY8za yesterday at Guardian retailing for RM58. I am not sure of the size but it should not be more than 75ml. The review on that blog is tempting me to give it a try though but I am somewhat worried of the effects of retinol and glycolic acid in bigger amount on my skin. I have tried retinol before and the effects were quite painful and drying. This one should work better than the Biotherm moisturizer. |
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Jan 26 2010, 09:43 AM
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I have been using Biotherm for past 2 years, but the result on me didnt make any differences. Its really wasted my investment on that product. Before I switched to Biotherm, i was stick with Cellnique. The result very obvious on me, where by my friends noticed the differences. My friends did switch to Cellnique at once too. But if really wanted take good care the face, really need lot of money though ~~
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Jan 26 2010, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(babybash @ Jan 26 2010, 09:43 AM) I have been using Biotherm for past 2 years, but the result on me didnt make any differences. Its really wasted my investment on that product. Before I switched to Biotherm, i was stick with Cellnique. The result very obvious on me, where by my friends noticed the differences. My friends did switch to Cellnique at once too. But if really wanted take good care the face, really need lot of money though ~~ Different strokes for different folks |
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Jan 26 2010, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 26 2010, 10:05 AM) Different strokes for different folks Correct, so be smart to choose the most suitable skin face for ourself  |
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Jan 26 2010, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(babybash @ Jan 26 2010, 10:10 AM) Correct, so be smart to choose the most suitable skin face for ourself Absolutely man. But still comes down to trial and error and it ain't cheap haha. |
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Jan 26 2010, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 25 2010, 12:27 PM) I spotted this product, http://bit.ly/5CY8za yesterday at Guardian retailing for RM58. I am not sure of the size but it should not be more than 75ml. The review on that blog is tempting me to give it a try though but I am somewhat worried of the effects of retinol and glycolic acid in bigger amount on my skin. I have tried retinol before and the effects were quite painful and drying. This one should work better than the Biotherm moisturizer. so basically this is used as a pimple cream right?so what are the steps to face care with additional pimple cream? first: cleanse second: moisturize third: apply pimple cream? |
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Jan 26 2010, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Jan 26 2010, 11:47 AM) so basically this is used as a pimple cream right? thats not a good way to use pimple cream unless you don't use moisturizers on your pimple areas. the moisturizer applies a protective layer which i think will make your pimple cream less effective if applied on top of the moisturizer. what i do is cleanse, apply cream, wait for like 15 mins to let the cream fully absorb, then moisturizer.so what are the steps to face care with additional pimple cream? first: cleanse second: moisturize third: apply pimple cream? |
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Jan 26 2010, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Jan 26 2010, 11:47 AM) so basically this is used as a pimple cream right? Diacneal is a good anti acne cream/acne scar fader/anti wrinkle/exfoliator. A lot of women use it to help give them good skin texture and for a glowing like effect. The packaging of Diacneal lists Retinaldehyde 0.1% and glycolic acid as the main active ingredients. Most have heard of Retin-A acne med and its effectiveness but harsh side effects. Diacneal is basically Retin-A but with not so harsh side effects. If Diacneal doesn't work then Retin-A is the next step. But if u use this your skin will be extra photosensitive so a sunscreen is needed if u r out in the sun a lot. so what are the steps to face care with additional pimple cream? first: cleanse second: moisturize third: apply pimple cream? Rockets is absolutely spot on. Cleanse--->apply pimple medication--->moisturize. In the past I tried applying moisturizer first and my skin got really dry and red. Now after I tried the new steps, the drying effect of the acne meds is lessened. |
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Jan 26 2010, 12:57 PM
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ok guys, thanks for the info.. so after i apply the pimple cream, can i moisturize over the pimple cream as well? or i should leave that area out?
but what if i'd like to apply toner as well, when do i slip that in? cleanse --> toner --> pimple cream --> moisturizer? |
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Jan 26 2010, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Jan 26 2010, 12:57 PM) ok guys, thanks for the info.. so after i apply the pimple cream, can i moisturize over the pimple cream as well? or i should leave that area out? Those are the same few steps I use daily. But I only use the pimple cream at night. If u have a lot of pimples then it's best u apply the moisturizer all over including over the pimple cream. However if u only got a few spots here and there then u can skip applying moisturizer on those spots that already have pimple cream. Then u monitor and see whether or not the spots get too dried out by the pimple cream...if they do then apply moisturizer on them. but what if i'd like to apply toner as well, when do i slip that in? cleanse --> toner --> pimple cream --> moisturizer? What pimple cream do u use btw ? |
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Jan 26 2010, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Jan 26 2010, 12:57 PM) ok guys, thanks for the info.. so after i apply the pimple cream, can i moisturize over the pimple cream as well? or i should leave that area out? u can applied the pimple cream for about 10-15mins (as mentioned by rockets) before applying the moisturizer...by then ur pimple cream should have been absorbed.... but what if i'd like to apply toner as well, when do i slip that in? cleanse --> toner --> pimple cream --> moisturizer? cleanse --> toner -->serum (if u have any) wait a couple of minutes --> pimple cream (again wait for a couple of minutes) --> moisturizer |
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Jan 26 2010, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 26 2010, 01:07 PM) Those are the same few steps I use daily. But I only use the pimple cream at night. If u have a lot of pimples then it's best u apply the moisturizer all over including over the pimple cream. However if u only got a few spots here and there then u can skip applying moisturizer on those spots that already have pimple cream. Then u monitor and see whether or not the spots get too dried out by the pimple cream...if they do then apply moisturizer on them. i have few pimples, they are more like old pimple scars..What pimple cream do u use btw ? this is all of what im using now.. i just started using these stuff like two weeks ago..  from left, first is the Nivea moisturizing lotion im using, after applying, face looks oily though.. then its some Lady Ann pimple lotion (contains alcohol), i think its like some traditional malay pimple solution.. next is the Eucerin cleanser i just purchased, was using Cetaphil & Panoxyl for 2-3 months before this but noticed few pimples appearing from time to time.. so decided to change.. the St. Ives scrub which i just purchased like a week ago.. Body Shop toner which i just started using a week ago (never used toner before actually).. and some Aiken Tee Tree pimple cream my brother purchased.. QUOTE(andy_lhc @ Jan 26 2010, 01:34 PM) u can applied the pimple cream for about 10-15mins (as mentioned by rockets) before applying the moisturizer...by then ur pimple cream should have been absorbed.... hmmm never really heard of serum, are they highly necessary? i want to keep minimal the no of products which goes on my face..cleanse --> toner -->serum (if u have any) wait a couple of minutes --> pimple cream (again wait for a couple of minutes) --> moisturizer |
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Jan 26 2010, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 26 2010, 10:33 AM) Absolutely man. But still comes down to trial and error and it ain't cheap haha. so u go to counter product only? or anything u will try on? |
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Jan 26 2010, 04:13 PM
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What's your skin type ?
So far the lightest moisturizer I have used is Clinique M Gel Lotion. Biotherm T Pur is good too. I think the nivea might be too heavy for u. Does it cause u to break out ? Most important is too look at the ingredients/active ingredients used. For pimples stuff like benzoyl peroxide, salicylic acid and sulfur are commonly used. Tea tree oil is good too but my acne seems to have developed an immunity to it after using it for 3 months. I think the products u using should do the job...at least u make an effort to care for your skin and not use Lux soap to wash your face like most guys LOL. But u might want to look at getting a lighter moisturizer as nivea moisturizers tend to be on the oilier side. Added on January 26, 2010, 4:20 pm QUOTE(babybash @ Jan 26 2010, 04:11 PM) so u go to counter product only? or anything u will try on? I don't really care about brands. But a lot of the pharmacy stuff I used before either too weak, too strong or too much fragrance. And they finish fast. I find the higher end counter stuff to last longer and more concentrated. I use a combination of counter and pharmacy stuff.This post has been edited by jonny4: Jan 26 2010, 04:20 PM |
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Jan 26 2010, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 26 2010, 04:13 PM) What's your skin type ? i really don't know what's my skin type man lol..So far the lightest moisturizer I have used is Clinique M Gel Lotion. Biotherm T Pur is good too. I think the nivea might be too heavy for u. Does it cause u to break out ? Most important is too look at the ingredients/active ingredients used. For pimples stuff like benzoyl peroxide, salicylic acid and sulfur are commonly used. Tea tree oil is good too but my acne seems to have developed an immunity to it after using it for 3 months. I think the products u using should do the job...at least u make an effort to care for your skin and not use Lux soap to wash your face like most guys LOL. But u might want to look at getting a lighter moisturizer as nivea moisturizers tend to be on the oilier side. i have another Neutrogena moisturizer but i thought i'd use the nivea one because its stated it contains vitamin E.. i think i'll try out the Diacneal product you recommended since its supposed to work for pimples as well as scars.. |
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Jan 26 2010, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Jan 26 2010, 04:21 PM) i really don't know what's my skin type man lol.. I think for our climate gel moisturizers are better unless u have dry skin. Most moisturizers come with vitamin E nowadays. i have another Neutrogena moisturizer but i thought i'd use the nivea one because its stated it contains vitamin E.. i think i'll try out the Diacneal product you recommended since its supposed to work for pimples as well as scars.. Diacneal does come with some side effects like peeling of skin, redness, breakouts and dry skin. |
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Jan 26 2010, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 26 2010, 04:29 PM) I think for our climate gel moisturizers are better unless u have dry skin. Most moisturizers come with vitamin E nowadays. i don't think i have dry skin, nor do i think i have oily skin, im assuming normal.. but then, what do i know..Diacneal does come with some side effects like peeling of skin, redness, breakouts and dry skin. hmmm isn't it suppose to prevent breakouts? |
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Jan 26 2010, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 26 2010, 04:13 PM) Added on January 26, 2010, 4:20 pm I don't really care about brands. But a lot of the pharmacy stuff I used before either too weak, too strong or too much fragrance. And they finish fast. I find the higher end counter stuff to last longer and more concentrated. I use a combination of counter and pharmacy stuff. I think if you could manage to add facial treatment on your routine, I'm sure you will see the result more faster. As we know, facial treatment can deep cleanse to unclog the pores! This will make your product absorb more efficiency. |
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Jan 26 2010, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(babybash @ Jan 26 2010, 04:36 PM) Certainly what you pay is what you get. What type of facial treatments ? I think if you could manage to add facial treatment on your routine, I'm sure you will see the result more faster. As we know, facial treatment can deep cleanse to unclog the pores! This will make your product absorb more efficiency. |
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Jan 26 2010, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Jan 26 2010, 04:01 PM) hmmm never really heard of serum, are they highly necessary? i want to keep minimal the no of products which goes on my face.. i have used Murad's Post Acne Lightening Gel before...its transluscent and its suppose to lighten ur acne/pimple scars.....i considered tat as serum..... |
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Jan 26 2010, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Jan 26 2010, 04:35 PM) i don't think i have dry skin, nor do i think i have oily skin, im assuming normal.. but then, what do i know.. After u wash your face with a cleanser...how long does it take before your nose gets oily ? hmmm isn't it suppose to prevent breakouts? The breakouts happen because the ingredients in Diacneal are "purging" your skin of embedded acne under the skin. Depends on the individual and varies from severity. This is what i gathered from the reviews I read. This "purging" usually happens during the 1st few weeks. Most acne meds will do purging of the skin i noticed. |
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Jan 27 2010, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 26 2010, 04:59 PM) After u wash your face with a cleanser...how long does it take before your nose gets oily ? er, i don't know how long.. hmmm oily as in even a little oily? lol.. let me experiment tomorrow..The breakouts happen because the ingredients in Diacneal are "purging" your skin of embedded acne under the skin. Depends on the individual and varies from severity. This is what i gathered from the reviews I read. This "purging" usually happens during the 1st few weeks. Most acne meds will do purging of the skin i noticed. |
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Jan 27 2010, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Jan 27 2010, 12:34 AM) er, i don't know how long.. hmmm oily as in even a little oily? lol.. let me experiment tomorrow.. When it starts to get shiny. The faster the shine comes the oilier your skin is...but depends on environment too. After u wash your face...does your skin get tight or very tight ? |
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Jan 27 2010, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 27 2010, 12:48 AM) When it starts to get shiny. The faster the shine comes the oilier your skin is...but depends on environment too. er nop my skin doesn't feel tight.. only unless i use some specific cleanser which i feel really dries out my skin..After u wash your face...does your skin get tight or very tight ? this is what im planning to get, don't know if some are available here or not: Avene Diacneal Clinique 7 day scrub cream Paula's choice 2% BHA got these ideas from this thread: http://scform.blogspot.com/2009/04/blackheads.html what do you think? |
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Jan 27 2010, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Jan 27 2010, 12:54 AM) er nop my skin doesn't feel tight.. only unless i use some specific cleanser which i feel really dries out my skin.. Clinique 7 day scrub cream my gf has it...it has coconut oil in it and makes your face slightly oily lo. Good for ppl with dry skin but for us guys I think not so suitable. The men's scrub is better and one of the best in the market...contains BHA. this is what im planning to get, don't know if some are available here or not: Avene Diacneal Clinique 7 day scrub cream Paula's choice 2% BHA got these ideas from this thread: http://scform.blogspot.com/2009/04/blackheads.html what do you think? Diacneal should be fine as long as u dont use too much too often. So far I have not experienced any extreme reactions to it...just a little dry. Paula's Choice...i think only can get online...haven't seen it around b4. If u can't find i think u can just get a regular toner with salicylic acid (BHA). Eucerin, Clean & Clear, Clinique and Neutrogena all got toners with BHA. Prob is they don't disclose the % used. But all the stuff u planning to get ain't cheap and u need to use a good moisturizer if not u will kena more breakouts. It happened to me. |
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Jan 27 2010, 04:25 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 22 2010, 09:33 AM) The Aquapower moisturizer ? Yeah Aqua Moisturizer. I bought it one set combine with homme cleanser and I dunno (something like lotion and another one is for hydrating) what its called. Total for 4 bottle Rm388. Clinique doesn't suit me well, my face always dry. For the sample, I got a few but dunno where I put it.How much is it and did u get any free gifts/samples ? How did u find Clinique ? This post has been edited by Putraskyline: Jan 27 2010, 04:26 AM |
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Jan 27 2010, 09:40 AM
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used eumora...
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Jan 27 2010, 09:43 AM
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Clinique is better..wash + toner + moisturizer = better..
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Jan 27 2010, 12:41 PM
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let us know how Avene Diacneal is working out for you guys
. i have a colleague who used it before and she said the cream is quite thick so it is not vey suitable to apply to the whole face less you'll empty the whole tube in a week. she said it's mostly for spot treatment. |
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Jan 27 2010, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(rockets @ Jan 27 2010, 12:41 PM) let us know how Avene Diacneal is working out for you guys Diacneal is very thick and creamy and smells a lot like Retin A. The reason why its expensive is because it not only gets rid of acne but same time also lightens scars and smooths skin surface. That's the main advantage I see in Diacneal over stuff like Oxy and panoxyl that do nothing for scars.. i have a colleague who used it before and she said the cream is quite thick so it is not vey suitable to apply to the whole face less you'll empty the whole tube in a week. she said it's mostly for spot treatment.After 2 nights of applying small amounts Diacneal I notice my skin is a little smoother but this could be caused by combination of products i am using. The individual pimples are also shrinking slowly bu the real effect of Diacneal can only be seen in about 2 weeks. Funny thing is after I apply it I don't feel a thing unlike other types of pimple creams and gels I have used. Those usually have a slight tingling or stinging feeling. Diacneal only leaves a slight shine on skin because it is cream base but it's not a problem as I only apply at night. This post has been edited by jonny4: Jan 27 2010, 02:41 PM |
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Jan 27 2010, 08:58 PM
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did anyone ever try the bio essence? The blue bottle one, is it good? or nivea better
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Jan 28 2010, 06:47 AM
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QUOTE(rockets @ Jan 25 2010, 12:05 PM) i'm currently using lab series and it's not very effective at getting rid of red pimple marks although i only get like a big once in a couple of months. the spot stays there for like months. i'm probably gonna give biotherm a try, the one jonny recommended since it has peeling effect but i dunno if its overkill though. lab series is strong la bro...even the facewash is good but i had my skin on my fingers and palm peeling off due to dryness...haiz..but it really worked well for my face..so now using clinique with my girl house mate..the girls and the guys one same nia...just packing difference so you pay more..so i shared with my girl housemate and bought big ones so we both use |
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Jan 31 2010, 05:35 PM
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how about Kose' mask facial?
Is it ok used by guys? |
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Jan 31 2010, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(princezs @ Dec 24 2008, 02:58 PM) i din use any skin care le you are a man? lazy to do so Added on December 24, 2008, 3:06 pmbut i see my mom using the cetaphil product quite ok ooo  |
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Jan 31 2010, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jan 31 2010, 05:35 PM) how about Kose' mask facial? Most of the male/female products are just marketing...most of the time they contains the same amount of ingredients and maybe different scent. I have not use Kose products before but it should be fine if it suits your skin type. Use without hesitation man.Is it ok used by guys? Added on February 1, 2010, 1:06 amGuys, Just today my gf bought Neutrogena Oil Free Moisture for Combination Skin. I was curious and applied a bit after a shower. I was very impressed by the oil control capabilities of this product. It's comparable with my clinique and Biotherm T Pur moisturizers when it comes to controlling oil and shine. Best part is the price, RM26 for 118ml. But it's really basic la...it just moisturizes and controls oil and nothing else. Those with drier skin should avoid this product though. This post has been edited by jonny4: Feb 1 2010, 01:06 AM |
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Feb 1 2010, 02:14 AM
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anyone tried the bio essence nugeno triple action? once used face become very soft....
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Feb 1 2010, 09:33 PM
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ermm... i still thinking which one to get lab series or clinique? any suggestions? where can i get consulation from both brand; if not mistaken lab series is at pavillion parkson right? how bout clinique?
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Feb 1 2010, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(morning06 @ Feb 1 2010, 09:33 PM) ermm... i still thinking which one to get lab series or clinique? any suggestions? where can i get consulation from both brand; if not mistaken lab series is at pavillion parkson right? how bout clinique? Pavilion is a good place to go as there is a special Lab Series counter/facial place at the Parkson men's department. There is a Clinique store just outside parkson, directly above the M&G store. I'll choose neither Lab Series or Clinique. both are quite harsh on skin. I have used both brands before. I only like LS Power Wash, LS Clay Mask and Clinique M Gel and Clinique Scrub. Right now I use Biotherm T Pur range and I am very impressed especially with the cleanser and moisturizer. |
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Feb 1 2010, 11:27 PM
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what u mean by harsh on skin? not good?
i am looking for something to get rid of my white/black head and minimize my pores >.< so any recc? or shud i seek for consultation? |
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Feb 1 2010, 11:29 PM
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just purchased the Avene Diacneal today.. the lady working there told me i should use it at night and not apply moisturizer after.. moisturize only during the next day..
hope it works.. |
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Feb 2 2010, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(morning06 @ Feb 1 2010, 11:27 PM) what u mean by harsh on skin? not good? Lab Series is known to be strong for normal skin..as for Clinique i believe u can try the Mild version..there is few versions for Clinique rite?? i am looking for something to get rid of my white/black head and minimize my pores >.< so any recc? or shud i seek for consultation? ..best if u go to the counter and asked them.... bear in mind sometimes they may give wrong advise as well.... ..so u should ask few consultants instead.......@jind - do tell us the results... |
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Feb 2 2010, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(morning06 @ Feb 1 2010, 11:27 PM) what u mean by harsh on skin? not good? Actually good brands like Avene and Eucerin will do the trick. If u look at the ingredient list, for example clinique toners and eucerin toners, the are basically almost the same, just very diff price and diff packaging. Even if u seek consultation they will push u to get either products for skin type 2 or 3. If u ask for a mild one they will get irritated because they "know best" compared to u. This is the attitude I get from most Clinique "consultants". Do remember they are just consultants and not licensed dermatologists.i am looking for something to get rid of my white/black head and minimize my pores >.< so any recc? or shud i seek for consultation? Added on February 2, 2010, 9:31 am QUOTE(jind86 @ Feb 1 2010, 11:29 PM) just purchased the Avene Diacneal today.. the lady working there told me i should use it at night and not apply moisturizer after.. moisturize only during the next day.. Good to hear u got Diacneal. hope it works.. The lady's advice is not very good. U should actually use moisturizer after applying because it is very strong and can dry out/irritate some skins. After applying Diacneal, wait 30mins before applying moisturizer. Diacneal is not a moisturizer. U should also start using it 2-3 nights once and see if your skin can tolerate. Then slowly work your way up to once a night. In the day a good sunscreen should be applied if u are exposed to direct sunlight a lot because Diacneal makes your skin extra photosensitive. Without a use of a sunscreen, all the goodness Diacneal brings to your skin will go to waste and will make things worse for your skin. After a week of using Diacneal, I can see improvement in texture and tone on areas of my face that is less prone to acne. While the ares with acne have suffered a "purge" and I am currently experiencing a moderate breakout. But it is manageable and not a big problem for me. So jind, u might suffer form a breakout too when using Diacneal for the first time during the first few weeks. Hope u can tahan and persevere. This is the stage a lot of ppl give up and say that Diacneal is not working for them. Give a a month or two and u will see the improvement. Well in my case that's what i am hoping for This post has been edited by jonny4: Feb 2 2010, 09:31 AM |
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i donno weather u all heard a brand janssen b4?this brand also not bad...
i use its cleaner..thums up will not make the skin too dry... |
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 2 2010, 09:20 AM) Good to hear u got Diacneal. aha.. well im actually not frequently exposed to direct sunlight.. im basically in-doors most of the day and will lurk around during the night lol..The lady's advice is not very good. U should actually use moisturizer after applying because it is very strong and can dry out/irritate some skins. After applying Diacneal, wait 30mins before applying moisturizer. Diacneal is not a moisturizer. U should also start using it 2-3 nights once and see if your skin can tolerate. Then slowly work your way up to once a night. In the day a good sunscreen should be applied if u are exposed to direct sunlight a lot because Diacneal makes your skin extra photosensitive. Without a use of a sunscreen, all the goodness Diacneal brings to your skin will go to waste and will make things worse for your skin. After a week of using Diacneal, I can see improvement in texture and tone on areas of my face that is less prone to acne. While the ares with acne have suffered a "purge" and I am currently experiencing a moderate breakout. But it is manageable and not a big problem for me. So jind, u might suffer form a breakout too when using Diacneal for the first time during the first few weeks. Hope u can tahan and persevere. This is the stage a lot of ppl give up and say that Diacneal is not working for them. Give a a month or two and u will see the improvement. Well in my case that's what i am hoping for aw man breakout is bad.. actually i had few pimples come out since i started using the Eucerin cleanser and tee tree oil pimple cream a week ago, so i don't know whether it's making my face worse or is it just the effect of the breakout.. now i don't know whether i should continue using the Eucerin cleanser or not.. i don't think im going to continue using the tee tree since ive got the Diacneal.. This post has been edited by jind86: Feb 2 2010, 11:42 AM |
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Feb 2 2010, 11:51 AM
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Skin purging usually happens when u change to new products. It's no biggie but if the breakouts don't subside and keep reoccurring for a month then u might need to discontinue use.
Added on February 2, 2010, 11:56 am QUOTE(OdynVovk @ Feb 2 2010, 11:46 AM) has anyone here actually tried the cavemen regime ? no soaps. just water. it works pretty well for me. well maybe because im already 21 and have gone through the phase of breakouts. If we were still living in prehistoric times then the "cavemen regime" would be very suitable. Nowadays we live in an environment full of pollution and increased amounts of UVA/UVB. I certainly doubt the "caveman regime" is feasible for your skin in the long run. But different strokes for different folks, so continue with that regime if it works for you.This post has been edited by jonny4: Feb 2 2010, 11:56 AM |
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Feb 2 2010, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(OdynVovk @ Feb 2 2010, 01:14 PM) washing your face with all that chemical isnt gonna undo the damage done by UVA/UBV rays. In third world countries or in places where people do not have access to the billion dollar skincare industry their skin stil looks fine granted they dont spend hours and hours in the sun. (sun damage is greatest cause of skin aging) Have you also noticed that prior to the " anti acne skincare" explosion , acne was not that big of a problem amongst the population. Ok. That's fine with me. well i found that alot of acne products or just skin products in general can aggravate or worsen the condition of your skin. and how is all that product gonna help u in the long run. did u just come back from the future to tell us that those who are using all that skincare product have better skin than those who don't ? well then again, as u said, different strokes, different folks. just google caveman regimen and read about it. most if not all who have tried, ended up with better skin. You stick to H2O and I'll stick to my chemicals But just to be very very clear with you and to anyone reading this post....I cannot time travel. Seriously I can't But I do wish I can. This post has been edited by jonny4: Feb 2 2010, 02:31 PM |
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Feb 2 2010, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Jan 26 2010, 04:38 PM) What type of facial treatments ? treatment from the professional skin centre, for eg http://www.menskincentre.com.my/ |
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Feb 2 2010, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(OdynVovk @ Feb 2 2010, 01:14 PM) washing your face with all that chemical isnt gonna undo the damage done by UVA/UBV rays. In third world countries or in places where people do not have access to the billion dollar skincare industry their skin stil looks fine granted they dont spend hours and hours in the sun. (sun damage is greatest cause of skin aging) Have you also noticed that prior to the " anti acne skincare" explosion , acne was not that big of a problem amongst the population. the funny thing is if thats true, many people would have discovered it sooner and those companies would have went bankrupt. well i found that alot of acne products or just skin products in general can aggravate or worsen the condition of your skin. and how is all that product gonna help u in the long run. did u just come back from the future to tell us that those who are using all that skincare product have better skin than those who don't ? well then again, as u said, different strokes, different folks. just google caveman regimen and read about it. most if not all who have tried, ended up with better skin. and how can water wash away oil on face? now thats an interesting miracle. |
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Feb 2 2010, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(andy_lhc @ Feb 2 2010, 08:58 AM) @jind - do tell us the results... only after using it once yesterday i realized it makes the face a little oily soon after application..will keep updated on the progress.. |
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Feb 2 2010, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Feb 2 2010, 03:50 PM) only after using it once yesterday i realized it makes the face a little oily soon after application.. Same thing with me too. That's y best to apply it only at night. I noticed that when I started to apply it last week on existing pimples, they went away really fast (1-2 nights) but without the excessive drying like panoxyl and Retin A. I don't think the oily effect made me breakout more.will keep updated on the progress.. This post has been edited by jonny4: Feb 2 2010, 03:55 PM |
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Feb 2 2010, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 2 2010, 03:54 PM) Same thing with me too. That's y best to apply it only at night. I noticed that when I started to apply it last week on existing pimples, they went away really fast (1-2 nights) but without the excessive drying like panoxyl and Retin A. I don't think the oily effect made me breakout more. so what are the products you're currently using alongside Diacneal?lol i still don't know my skin type.. |
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Feb 2 2010, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Feb 2 2010, 03:58 PM) so what are the products you're currently using alongside Diacneal? Cleanser: Biotherm Homme T Pur Intense Purifying Scruffying Facial Cleanser and Lab Series Power Wash (finishing soon). lol i still don't know my skin type.. Toner/Astringent: Biotherm Homme T-Pur Intense Matifying Pore Retightening Lotion Moisturizer: Biotherm Homme T-Pur Intense S.O.S Corrective Anti-Imperfection Moistuirising Concentrate (day) Clinique M Gel Lotion (night) Sunscreen: Neutrogena Ultra Sheer waterlight lotion SPF50+ PAA+++ (I don't use this everyday). Scrub: Lab Series Invigorating Face Scrub (2x a week) Mask: Lab Series Purifying Clay Mask (2x a week). Post Shave: Biotherm Homme Aquatic Lotion (i prefer using toner n moisturizer as aftershave nowadays). I'm very disciplined and use the products without fail. I even managed to cleanse, tone, moisturize and apply acne med while half drunk at 3am in the morning after a heavy drinking session LOL. Just drop by any skin care counter and they will help u figure out your skin type. But better go a few counters to get 2nd or 3rd opinion. Just don't kena psycho by the consultants and end up purchasing their product...this happened to my gf. This post has been edited by jonny4: Feb 2 2010, 04:16 PM |
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Feb 2 2010, 09:03 PM
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wow thats alot of products..
i'm reading the avene pamphlet and it says that the glycolic acid in diacneal has a "peel-like" effect.. what exactly does that mean? --- btw lets just say i have a pimple and it ends up "bursting" itself.. what do i do then? do i pinch out the remaining pus or? |
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Feb 2 2010, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Feb 2 2010, 09:03 PM) wow thats alot of products.. The peel like effect really depends on your skin. If it is sensitive then u will really see it. On my skin I hardly get any redness or extreme dryness. But glycolic is a chemical peel so u wont really feel it happening, u will just see the effects the next morning. This site will give a clearer picture http://www.glycolic-skincare.com/faq.phpi'm reading the avene pamphlet and it says that the glycolic acid in diacneal has a "peel-like" effect.. what exactly does that mean? --- btw lets just say i have a pimple and it ends up "bursting" itself.. what do i do then? do i pinch out the remaining pus or? I'm not a dermatologist don't take my word fully. What i normally do is i will saturate a cotton pad/ball with astringent/toner and use it to get rid of the remaining pus. Then i use either my biotherm aftershave or moisturizer and apply over the broken skin with a cotton pad. I apply pressure in order to get the bleeding to stop faster. This works for me but only for small pimples, if u kena those huge 10sen coin size ones, u should not touch it at all as it can lead to deep scarring. Added on February 9, 2010, 9:51 pmjind, How is Diacneal working for your skin ? Has the dryness or skin "purge" started yet ? This post has been edited by jonny4: Feb 9 2010, 09:51 PM |
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Feb 10 2010, 02:45 AM
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jonny 4, can u recc me some skin care counter? where to find them? so far i only know lab series at pavillion parkson and clinique somewhere in pavillion also. but i've never get the chance to get advice from them ~.~
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Feb 10 2010, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE(morning06 @ Feb 10 2010, 02:45 AM) jonny 4, can u recc me some skin care counter? where to find them? so far i only know lab series at pavillion parkson and clinique somewhere in pavillion also. but i've never get the chance to get advice from them ~.~ Just head to the cosmetics and fragrances section of any department store and u will find all the counters there. There aren't any counters other than Lab Series specially for men. Most of the SAs at these counters (eg. Clarins, Biotherm n Clinique) should be able to help u. But honestly I dislike going to these counters for advice because these SAs will give advise that is not accurate and only want to sell products. Do remember that these SAs no matter how professional they look are not trained dermatologists. So do not take their advise 100%.sry for the trouble ~.~ |
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Feb 10 2010, 09:29 AM
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Jonny4,
Do you know how good aesop are? |
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Feb 10 2010, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(Putraskyline @ Feb 10 2010, 09:29 AM) Jonny4, No idea about Aesop...i have not used anything by them b4.. but their products sounds and look expensive haha.Do you know how good aesop are? |
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Feb 10 2010, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 10 2010, 09:40 AM) No idea about Aesop...i have not used anything by them b4.. but their products sounds and look expensive haha. Owh okay....I like their simplicity of the product package. Wanna try some but no recommendation yet from this thread. |
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Feb 10 2010, 10:27 AM
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One of the main reason why acne happens is because of the food we eat.
You dont see people in third world country suffer from acne as much as we do because they eat natural food. For us, manufactured food are everywhere and that is one of the main causes for acne. Hot dogs, french fries, potato chips, soft drinks, instant noodles etc. Really gotta throw that all away from your diet. And research also found out that acne did not exist in the pass until technology came in. |
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Feb 10 2010, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(Sellery @ Feb 10 2010, 10:27 AM) One of the main reason why acne happens is because of the food we eat. Do u have any kind of empirical evidence to support your statement about acne not existing in the past ? If u do pls provide it so we can all share it. Your statement is quite vague because what do u mean by past ? How far back in the past are we talking about here ?You dont see people in third world country suffer from acne as much as we do because they eat natural food. For us, manufactured food are everywhere and that is one of the main causes for acne. Hot dogs, french fries, potato chips, soft drinks, instant noodles etc. Really gotta throw that all away from your diet. And research also found out that acne did not exist in the pass until technology came in. |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 10 2010, 08:39 AM) Just head to the cosmetics and fragrances section of any department store and u will find all the counters there. There aren't any counters other than Lab Series specially for men. Most of the SAs at these counters (eg. Clarins, Biotherm n Clinique) should be able to help u. But honestly I dislike going to these counters for advice because these SAs will give advise that is not accurate and only want to sell products. Do remember that these SAs no matter how professional they look are not trained dermatologists. So do not take their advise 100%. hmm... coz i dunno whether my face is oily or dry? i really dun like asking them coz i know they will push product >.< what will you suggest if i have blackhead on nose and i wanted to clean those and minimize my pores? i assume my T-zone is oily coz my nose part and forehead will get oily after half day? |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 10 2010, 10:48 AM) Do u have any kind of empirical evidence to support your statement about acne not existing in the past ? If u do pls provide it so we can all share it. Your statement is quite vague because what do u mean by past ? How far back in the past are we talking about here ? i have read it before somewhere and i believe its very true....I am not exactly sure how far back but i believe its before electrical powered machine existed People last time are also much healthier as they do everything manually instead of using machines therefore allowing them to exercise more often. |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(morning06 @ Feb 10 2010, 11:05 AM) hmm... coz i dunno whether my face is oily or dry? i really dun like asking them coz i know they will push product >.< what will you suggest if i have blackhead on nose and i wanted to clean those and minimize my pores? i assume my T-zone is oily coz my nose part and forehead will get oily after half day? if only your t-zone is oily then your skin type is "combination". if whole face oily then skin type is "oily". |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 10 2010, 10:48 AM) Do u have any kind of empirical evidence to support your statement about acne not existing in the past ? If u do pls provide it so we can all share it. Your statement is quite vague because what do u mean by past ? How far back in the past are we talking about here ? Yea, i personally think acne is due to the dirt, hygiene, air pollution, etc. |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:50 AM
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hmmm my t-zone is extra oily other part sometime get oily if i never wash for too long ~.~
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Feb 10 2010, 11:52 AM
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depends on the weather as well? my face get completely oil under hot sun in just few hours of time.
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Feb 10 2010, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(morning06 @ Feb 10 2010, 11:05 AM) hmm... coz i dunno whether my face is oily or dry? i really dun like asking them coz i know they will push product >.< what will you suggest if i have blackhead on nose and i wanted to clean those and minimize my pores? i assume my T-zone is oily coz my nose part and forehead will get oily after half day? I suggest u try going to any of the Clinique counters and get the SA determine what kind of skin u have. The Clinique SAs can be quite arrogant (especially the older ones) and have this "I know more than u so u shut up n listen". Me and my gf kena few times edi. But they seem to know their stuff. The friendliest and most helpful one is Sally from the Jusco 1U Clinique counter...she doesn't aggressively push products too. There's this really cute and friendly clinique SA at Isetan Gardens..i think her name is May iirc. |
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Feb 10 2010, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(Daymon @ Feb 10 2010, 11:49 AM) Yea, i personally think acne is due to the dirt, hygiene, air pollution, etc. Acne is caused by bacterias. Air has bacterias therefore it sticks to your face. What you eat is important as some vitamins increases your skin's health. Furthermore some food causes your skin to produce more oil. Therefore if you have an oily face bacterias stick easily on your face and the oil on your face creates a suitable environment for them to grow. What you eat is really important . I personally cant drink milk as it is super oily and the effect can be seen the next day if i drink milk. although i love milk sigh... |
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Feb 10 2010, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(Sellery @ Feb 10 2010, 11:13 AM) i have read it before somewhere and i believe its very true.... I did a brief search and i found this article http://health.top54u.com/post/The-History-of-Acne.aspxI am not exactly sure how far back but i believe its before electrical powered machine existed People last time are also much healthier as they do everything manually instead of using machines therefore allowing them to exercise more often. It's not really accurate to say acne did not exist in the past. It's a common misconception that people in the past (again the term "people last time" is vague) were healthier. I did some reading about human anthropology in the past but I do not have the time to give the article links but this wikipedia article does shed some light about human life expectancy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy As u can see from the chart, the average life expectancy during pre technology times was between 20-30 yrs old. Contemporary life expectancy is 66.58. Of course this is a very brief example and there are many variations. People in medieval times faced many kinds of illnesses, famine and war. Acne was the least of their worries especially for the average peasant or someone in the lower echelons of social hierarchy. Added on February 10, 2010, 12:14 pm QUOTE(morning06 @ Feb 10 2010, 11:50 AM) hmmm my t-zone is extra oily other part sometime get oily if i never wash for too long ~.~ from your description I think you have combination skin but on the oilier side. Quite typical for guys because of the weather. my skin is around the same type too. Very sien wan...especially right after stepping out of an air cond environment into the hot outside weather...oil overload on the face man. hahaThis post has been edited by jonny4: Feb 10 2010, 12:14 PM |
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Feb 10 2010, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 10 2010, 11:57 AM) I suggest u try going to any of the Clinique counters and get the SA determine what kind of skin u have. The Clinique SAs can be quite arrogant (especially the older ones) and have this "I know more than u so u shut up n listen". Me and my gf kena few times edi. But they seem to know their stuff. The friendliest and most helpful one is Sally from the Jusco 1U Clinique counter...she doesn't aggressively push products too. There's this really cute and friendly clinique SA at Isetan Gardens..i think her name is May iirc. Wow...You even memorize their name. For me, Parkson KLCC counter are great. They put all their product on my face and let me walk-walk around KLCC to feel the different. Both Clinique and Biotherm are good. |
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Feb 10 2010, 09:18 PM
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today went to pav biotherm and lab series; biotherm put a machine stick on my face den told me my face is quite ok just a bit oily and she recc me the oil control moist
and lab series guy gimme some try on and told me its ok to cont using my prev cleanser just add in a oil control moist will do never go to clinique coz lab series already rub something on lol maybe next time This post has been edited by morning06: Feb 10 2010, 09:24 PM |
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Feb 10 2010, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(morning06 @ Feb 10 2010, 09:18 PM) today went to pav biotherm and lab series; biotherm put a machine stick on my face den told me my face is quite ok just a bit oily and she recc me the oil control moist Good to hear man...and lab series guy gimme some try on and told me its ok to cont using my prev cleanser just add in a oil control moist will do never go to clinique coz lab series already rub something on lol maybe next time I have a small mini size Biotherm oil control moisturizer and it's quite good and smells really nice too. But alcohol level is quite high and oil control is only above average for me. Is it the T Pur Intense moisturizer she recommend ? I am also using biothem t pur moisturizer but the SOS anti imperfection one. But do note that all these oil control moisturizers are not 100% effective in controlling oil especially in our kind of weather. Few hours can control la but if whole day no way. Quite expensive too these oil control stuff...RM140 iirc for the Lab Series one. |
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Feb 10 2010, 10:14 PM
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ya she recc me the t pur series but i forgot which one... i think if not mistaken is the black cap one? rm130? and for lab series the price for the oil control moist is also rm130 ~.~
now i dunno which brand t get haha coz i heard lab series is very harsh on skin plus biotherm have member card LOL |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(morning06 @ Feb 10 2010, 10:14 PM) ya she recc me the t pur series but i forgot which one... i think if not mistaken is the black cap one? rm130? and for lab series the price for the oil control moist is also rm130 ~.~ The black cap one is the regular oil control moisturizer http://bit.ly/5S0Mwvnow i dunno which brand t get haha coz i heard lab series is very harsh on skin plus biotherm have member card LOL price is rm130 for 75ml. The lab series is rm130 for 50ml..haha..u get 25ml more with biotherm. I have used quite a few Lab Series stuff and I find their products rather basic compared to Biotherm. I do not think LS stuff is harsh. Both brabds should be ok...important thing is to get something suitable 4 your skin type. |
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Feb 11 2010, 01:09 AM
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hmmm cant really figure what to get coz the lab series guy say i can cont using my prev product coz my face seems ok except that i need to add in a moist
biotherm told me to get moist also and if want take a package it would be the t pur products (cleanser,toner,moist) den when i ask her bout black head, she show me something tat can make the black/white head softer so i can squeeze them out easier; and tats the only way to get rid of it and i still have to go to beautician to properly get all of them out ~.~ LS do give me some scrub and cleanser sample... u think biotherm have sample vf them? i kinda like the LS cleanser ^^feel like trying biotherm cleanser bfore i decide |
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Feb 11 2010, 10:44 AM
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Which Lab Series cleanser and scrub sample did u get ? Multi Action Face Wash or Mild Foaming Face Wash ? I used both before from samples and didn't like either one. I bought the Oil Control Face Wash and Power Wash before. My fav is the Power Wash.
You don't have to get the whole T Pur set at once...I bought all 3 T Pur products individually in a space of 2 months. The cleanser is my favourite in the T Pur range as it works really well for me. I am not sure if Biotherm gives samples. Usually they will give samples only when u buy something and that depends on the price of them product u buy. When I bought my T Pur toner (RM86) all I got were 2x1ml moisturizer samples. Then when I bought the more expensive moisturizer (RM140) they gave me a full 3 piece mini set (cleanser 20ml, toner 30ml and moisturizer 20ml). Maybe u can try cheaper alternatives like clay mask and scrub from brands like Neutrogena and Eucerin before buying something expensive. If the cheaper brands work for u even better rite. haha. |
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Feb 11 2010, 05:11 PM
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any good recommended facial centre for men...(preferably with sweet beautician... ) in PJ/Seri Petaling/Sunway/Subang/Puchongarea...thanks |
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Feb 13 2010, 10:49 PM
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im 17 yo , got pimple ,scar and blackheads , and i got oily face and using clinelle 3 steps , but dosent seem any improvement, any recommend ???
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Feb 13 2010, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(clap_clap @ Feb 13 2010, 10:49 PM) im 17 yo , got pimple ,scar and blackheads , and i got oily face and using clinelle 3 steps , but dosent seem any improvement, any recommend ??? At your age best to keep it simple as acne and pimples is just part and parcel of teenage life. Sometimes its best not to overstimulate d skin. But if things get worse try consulting a dermatologist. The famous acne thread in LYN is quite good...I suggest u follow it. But no matter wat treatment u use, remember to use sunscreen if not ur pimple scars will get harder and harder to fade away. I'm paying the price now for my lack of knowledge about acne medications and importance of sunscreen when I was your age. |
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Feb 13 2010, 11:04 PM
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Using Loreal For Men series.
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 Feb 13 2010, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 13 2010, 11:02 PM) At your age best to keep it simple as acne and pimples is just part and parcel of teenage life. Sometimes its best not to overstimulate d skin. But if things get worse try consulting a dermatologist. The famous acne thread in LYN is quite good...I suggest u follow it. But no matter wat treatment u use, remember to use sunscreen if not ur pimple scars will get harder and harder to fade away. I'm paying the price now for my lack of knowledge about acne medications and importance of sunscreen when I was your age. any recommend product ?? hope can give me the outlet too , thanks ~ , btw , the scar is quite worse , the pimple still ok and blackheads abit , btw , what u mean LYN , sorry , i'm new , nw trying to do some research , =xThis post has been edited by clap_clap: Feb 13 2010, 11:22 PM |
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Feb 13 2010, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(clap_clap @ Feb 13 2010, 11:17 PM) any recommend product ?? hope can give me the outlet too , thanks ~ , btw , the scar is quite worse , the pimple still ok and blackheads abit , btw , what u mean LYN , sorry , i'm new , nw trying to do some research , =x I am using Avene Diacneal right now for my acne and scars...some of my scars have faded and skin tone n texture also better. Retails for RM58.90, 30ml tube. Can get from any big Watsons, Guardian and Caring pharmacies. But b4 u try Diacneal u should try this regime http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/308877Panoxyl really works but kind of hard to get edi nowadays...that's why i switched to Diacneal. |
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Feb 14 2010, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 13 2010, 11:36 PM) I am using Avene Diacneal right now for my acne and scars...some of my scars have faded and skin tone n texture also better. Retails for RM58.90, 30ml tube. Can get from any big Watsons, Guardian and Caring pharmacies. But b4 u try Diacneal u should try this regime http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/308877 Thanks alot , so any recommend for pimple mark ?? , quite many =xPanoxyl really works but kind of hard to get edi nowadays...that's why i switched to Diacneal. |
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Feb 14 2010, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(clap_clap @ Feb 14 2010, 10:53 AM) Thanks alot , so any recommend for pimple mark ?? , quite many =x Avene Diacneal...its very good for getting rid of acne scars. But must use sunscreen...if u unwilling to use sunscreen then i suggest u don't buy Diacneal. |
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Feb 14 2010, 01:56 PM
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i actually use Avene Diacneal up to two times a day, i don't really get any "side effects" other than a little dry skin..
actually to be honest, ive not even used sunscreen, only moisturizer.. is it that necessary as im hardly exposed to direct sunlight.. anyway since i'll be visiting out today, i found a sunscreen moisturizer SPF15, so i apply the same way right? diacneal, and after half an hour, sunscreen moisturizer.. |
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Feb 14 2010, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Feb 14 2010, 01:56 PM) i actually use Avene Diacneal up to two times a day, i don't really get any "side effects" other than a little dry skin.. Same here man other than a little breakouts I get no major side effects. actually to be honest, ive not even used sunscreen, only moisturizer.. is it that necessary as im hardly exposed to direct sunlight.. anyway since i'll be visiting out today, i found a sunscreen moisturizer SPF15, so i apply the same way right? diacneal, and after half an hour, sunscreen moisturizer.. I'm actually forcing myself to use sunscreen as it will make Diacneal more effective. Currently using Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry Touch SPF50...RM35 for 88ml. This is de best so far as the others I have tried make my face shiny n sticky. SPF15 is very minimal and its recommended that ppl that are currently using chemical peels like Diacneal to use a min of SPF50. Sunlight especially in a tropical country lie msia still goes through the windows. SPF15 is alright for indoors but if u go out u will need something higher. I have not used Diacneal in the day before as the less things applied in combo with it the more effective it will be. But yeah should be correct, diacneal than sunscreen moisturizer. |
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Feb 14 2010, 02:58 PM
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hmmm i've only got the SPF15 lying around now, no other higher SPF sunscreen, so i'll have to make do with that for now..
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Feb 14 2010, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Feb 14 2010, 02:58 PM) hmmm i've only got the SPF15 lying around now, no other higher SPF sunscreen, so i'll have to make do with that for now.. Yea better than nothing. I'm fair skinned so I need more protection fr d sun. |
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Feb 18 2010, 07:19 PM
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guys that suffered from sinus might want to take a look at this :
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Feb 19 2010, 02:13 PM
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Just to share...
I have very oily skin especially in the t zone area and I have tried many types of oil control moisturizers and products. Stopping short of using foundation powder. Garnier, Neutrogena, Clinique, Biotherm...I have tried all the oil control stuff from them and none worked very well. So I did some research and found a lot of good reviews about Clarins Men Anti Shine Gel. Retails for a pricey RM147 (50ml) but it really works. I was skeptical about all these oil control products after trying out so many. But this Clarins Men product controls oil for a good 5-6 hours but my skin is not dry instead it is very nicely hydrated. There's no 100% oil control but Clarins comes close. So for any of u guys looking for something to control oil, give Clarins Men Anti Shine Gel a try. I only use it on my t zone because of the price. I must stress that Clarins did not pay me a cent to post this LOL. I wish they will...a few samples would be nice too haha. |
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Feb 20 2010, 09:16 PM
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what do you guys think about the body shop's seaweed facial care series? is it good?
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Feb 21 2010, 11:18 AM
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Anyone used the Shiseido Men Hydrating Lotion before ? It's something of a toner/moisturizer in one. Please leave some feedback.
I received a sample of the Shiseido Men Cleansing Foam and was very impressed with it. So now I am interested at other Shiseido Men products. |
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Feb 21 2010, 11:23 AM
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Should get some advices from the promoters
different skin type needs different things |
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Feb 21 2010, 02:48 PM
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I have oily t-zone and been using Nutritious
Purifying 2-in-1 Foam Cleanser (Estee Lauder) since mid of last year. The foam is very fine and creamy, and after washing will not feel tight or dry. I learned to stay away from those cleansers which are strong (usually for oily skins). You will feel clean after washing but not for long the face tends to feel dry, as a result more facial oil is produced. For toner, I am using Optimizer Pore Minimizing Boosting Lotion (Estee Lauder). Its a bit like gel in a very watery form. Face feeling relaxed and hydrated after applied. For moisturiser, I am using Hydra Complete Multi-Level Moisture Lotion (Estee Lauder). It's very light and non oily. The thing i noticed is after using this moisturiser, my face is evenly hydrated, no more oily skin where I can fry an egg with it ;-D That's the basic 3 steps I am using. Got other products also am using now (from Estee too) but lazy to review ;-p Prior this am using Clarins Men and Biotherm Men, but not satisfied with the products. For me skin care products can be for men / for ladies, as long as the result is good then it's the one that I will be using. |
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Feb 21 2010, 03:18 PM
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What I advice you guys is don't spend immediately on high range skin care product. Go to any drugstore and get some cheap range skin care first (range from rm5-20++ perhaps). Heck if it works well, continue using it and spend the remaining cash on electronic gadgets =P
Don't get the whole set, try one by one, esp the cleanser... its one of the main things to judge the product. However, if you are in luck to stumble upon travel packs in mini sizes, those are very good trial sets because its in small amount and cheap to try. Get them to test. But of course try it one product at a time. Eg try the cleanser first... if everything goes well for 1-2 weeks, add in toner...then repeat again for moisturizer. Special note for moisturizers: Usually in pharmacies you will see them having testers... those are good chance to test them... not on your face, but on ure hands. Put a bit on your hands and rub to see if you are allergic to it, eg any signs of itchiness, redness or burning sensation...if they do occur, throw it aside... its not compatible with your skin! Ive tried those so called good brands of loreal, nivea, and garnier... but they are usually either greasy, leaving some crystal residue(which is very bad) or worst...causes itchiness on my skin(nivea!). If after one week using your newly bought moisturiser causes you to get more small white spots, stop using it immediately, those are most likely comedones, clogged pores that would eventually turn to pimples. Choosing the right product for your skin condition: If you are very sure of your skin type being oily, use those oily range products. If you are unsure, choose the basic skin care range, or combination skin type. If you have no idea at all, I advice you guys trying the mildest range first, that is the sensitive range. Why? Its better to treat your skin with much gentle than to punish it directly with harsh chemicals. You guys would be surprise with what shit they add in your cleansers toners and moisturisers lol. TIPS: Choosing product is often annoying, as you are unsure with what to go for, but one rule of thumb is choose products with much less ingredients. Reason is, the more ingredients, the more probability that ingredient might be incompatible with your skin. Give the brand SIMPLE or CETAPHIL a try. Their list of ingredients are much less than what you find in loreal crap for men, nivea nonsense for men etc. You'll be surprised that such less ingredient products would work much better than the latter. It doesnt matter if you are using mens or womens range. They are all the same: skin care products. But one thing in mind is, skin care is a very subjective thing to individuals. One product might work for you but might not work for others. Don't be stubburn to change if it doesnt work on you, because the longer you use, the more damage it brings to your skin. Btw, I'm currently using simple refreshing wash gel. No complains so far =) This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: Feb 21 2010, 03:23 PM |
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Feb 21 2010, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(neekun @ Feb 21 2010, 02:48 PM) I have oily t-zone and been using Nutritious I certainly do agree with you that when the face is properly hydrated, the body will regulate the oil levels. That's why i looking for products that don't say oil control. These products strips the skin of all oils and the results is even more oil produced by the face. I finally realised this after using the Shiseido Men Cleansing Foam. shiseido SAs keep telling that the toning lotion will be good for me as my skin is oily but I think I'll just go with the Hydrating Lotion as it would be a good toner cum moisturizer. Purifying 2-in-1 Foam Cleanser (Estee Lauder) since mid of last year. The foam is very fine and creamy, and after washing will not feel tight or dry. I learned to stay away from those cleansers which are strong (usually for oily skins). You will feel clean after washing but not for long the face tends to feel dry, as a result more facial oil is produced. For toner, I am using Optimizer Pore Minimizing Boosting Lotion (Estee Lauder). Its a bit like gel in a very watery form. Face feeling relaxed and hydrated after applied. For moisturiser, I am using Hydra Complete Multi-Level Moisture Lotion (Estee Lauder). It's very light and non oily. The thing i noticed is after using this moisturiser, my face is evenly hydrated, no more oily skin where I can fry an egg with it ;-D That's the basic 3 steps I am using. Got other products also am using now (from Estee too) but lazy to review ;-p Prior this am using Clarins Men and Biotherm Men, but not satisfied with the products. For me skin care products can be for men / for ladies, as long as the result is good then it's the one that I will be using. I am currently using Biotherm and I find their products quite harsh and too much fragrance. Results are minimal. Clarins Men I only like the Anti Shine Gel because it works but too pricey. Thanks for the advice n feedback ! @kaspersky-fan, I have tried a lot of the regular pharmacy stuff and so far only Avene has impressed me with their affordable prices and skin friendly products. Cetaphil and Simple didn't work for me as they were too light to cleanse my face properly. I used Cetaphil cleansers for 2 years straight. I still use Simple but only the facial wash gel. So far the worst pharmacy product I have come across and used is the Garnier Men Turbo Light Oil Control Moisturizer. The ingredients on the box showed a lot of promise but when I applied on my skin it felt powdery and sticky. The powder they used to control oil really clogged up my pores and broke me out real bad. Of course if I can save money with cheap facial products I will be happy but so far like I said nothing worked. Thanks for the advice ! This post has been edited by jonny4: Feb 21 2010, 05:04 PM |
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Feb 22 2010, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 21 2010, 04:57 PM) @kaspersky-fan, I have tried a lot of the regular pharmacy stuff and so far only Avene has impressed me with their affordable prices and skin friendly products. Cetaphil and Simple didn't work for me as they were too light to cleanse my face properly. I used Cetaphil cleansers for 2 years straight. I still use Simple but only the facial wash gel. So far the worst pharmacy product I have come across and used is the Garnier Men Turbo Light Oil Control Moisturizer. The ingredients on the box showed a lot of promise but when I applied on my skin it felt powdery and sticky. The powder they used to control oil really clogged up my pores and broke me out real bad. Of course if I can save money with cheap facial products I will be happy but so far like I said nothing worked. Thanks for the advice ! I've only recently started testing out regular drugstore skincare..because i lost confidence with higher price skin care stuff ever since discovering cetaphil and simple products. |
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Feb 22 2010, 02:16 AM
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I used to have a lot of acne, nothing would help, I resolved to going to the skin doctor and getting medicine in pill form... (hardcore, I know)
Its helped a lot but it makes my lips f***ING DRY. Thank god I'm currently single. :-p Btw, anyone here use proactiv? I have an extra set lying around that I should probably get rid of. |
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Feb 22 2010, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 21 2010, 11:18 AM) Anyone used the Shiseido Men Hydrating Lotion before ? It's something of a toner/moisturizer in one. Please leave some feedback. I an not using the Hydrating Lotion but I am using Shiseido's Scrub and also the Total Revitalizer Moisturizing cream...I received a sample of the Shiseido Men Cleansing Foam and was very impressed with it. So now I am interested at other Shiseido Men products. Note that it was the 1st time i used shiseido's products and so far i am liking it...it can last very long becos u only need to use a tiny bit and it will be enough to cover the whole face.... |
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Feb 22 2010, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Feb 22 2010, 01:42 AM) Not that I'm bias, but I never liked Loreal products...any kind that is, from loreal men to garnier to biotherm and to lancome.... somehow their products just doesnt suit me... so... i've made a very simple rule for myself, that is to ban all loreal division products lol... im too lazy to try it already I got to agree that stuff from the L'oreal division is too highly fragranced. The first few times its nice and refreshing but after a few weeks the strong fragrance can get really nauseating. But good to hear the cheaper stuff are working for you.I've only recently started testing out regular drugstore skincare..because i lost confidence with higher price skin care stuff ever since discovering cetaphil and simple products. Added on February 22, 2010, 1:22 pm QUOTE(andy_lhc @ Feb 22 2010, 08:32 AM) I an not using the Hydrating Lotion but I am using Shiseido's Scrub and also the Total Revitalizer Moisturizing cream... How much is the Total Revitalizer Moisturizing cream ? Quite pricey right ? Note that it was the 1st time i used shiseido's products and so far i am liking it...it can last very long becos u only need to use a tiny bit and it will be enough to cover the whole face.... This post has been edited by jonny4: Feb 22 2010, 01:22 PM |
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Feb 22 2010, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 22 2010, 01:20 PM) I got to agree that stuff from the L'oreal division is too highly fragranced. The first few times its nice and refreshing but after a few weeks the strong fragrance can get really nauseating. But good to hear the cheaper stuff are working for you. I'm still on my trial stage lol. So far so good, but I do have intentions to try out Shiseido men since so many ppl gave good review about it, including you lol. How do you like the cleansing foam? Do update us on your progress with Shiseido products.Added on February 22, 2010, 1:22 pm How much is the Total Revitalizer Moisturizing cream ? Quite pricey right ? Btw guys, if you guys prefer to shop without the annoyance of sales assistance, try visiting http://www.strawberrynet.com/ to purchase your skin care stuff. Infact its cheaper to purchase there(not all brands, but mostly are) and you get free shipping. Save the hassle to go to those counters and hear SAs crapping. As for you, jonny4... do checkup here: http://oth.strawberrynet.com/mens-fragranc...ncare/shiseido/ =P, have fun! |
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Feb 22 2010, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Feb 22 2010, 08:18 PM) I'm still on my trial stage lol. So far so good, but I do have intentions to try out Shiseido men since so many ppl gave good review about it, including you lol. How do you like the cleansing foam? Do update us on your progress with Shiseido products. I bought the Shiseido Cleansing Foam just now and i am very impressed. The price and size of the product is deceiving and the SA said that 125ml can last at least 6 months if used twice a day. I was really skeptical but I decided to try it anyway...just now I used probably a pea size amount (maybe smaller) and the foam generated was enough to cover my face, neck, ears and parts of my back too. So yeah I won't be surprised if it lasted 6 months or more. The price is steep, RM 95 for 125ml. In terms of the cleaning power it rivals other high ends stuff I have used. The main difference is the Shiseido cleanser does not leave my face tight or dry. Probably because they don't use Sodium Laureth Sulfate as a foaming agent. If u don't mind spending close to RM100 on a cleanser, the Shiseido one really beats the rest. Btw guys, if you guys prefer to shop without the annoyance of sales assistance, try visiting http://www.strawberrynet.com/ to purchase your skin care stuff. Infact its cheaper to purchase there(not all brands, but mostly are) and you get free shipping. Save the hassle to go to those counters and hear SAs crapping. As for you, jonny4... do checkup here: http://oth.strawberrynet.com/mens-fragranc...ncare/shiseido/ =P, have fun! I also received a samples of the Hydrating Lotion and Moisturizing Emulsion. The Hydrating Lotion is nice and is a combination of a toner and moisturizer that refreshes the skin and tightens the pores, perfect for my oily skin...I plan to use this in the mornings. This will be a real time saver. Meanwhile the Moisturizing Emulsion seems a little too heavy for day use but absorbs fast into the skin leaving a somewhat matte finish. I will use this only at night as my acne treatments tend to dry up the skin. The Hydrating Lotion retails for RM130 (150ml) but a little goes a long way though so its not too expensive I feel. The SA was telling me that the Toning Lotion is more suited for my oily skin but in the end it's just an overpriced toner. I think the Hydrating Lotion would be a better choice even though I have oily skin as too much harsh products will make the skin produce more oil. Both Toning and Hydrating Lotion are the same price and same quantity so the Hydrating Lotion seems to be more woth the money as it's a toner/moisturizer. So that's my take on the Shiseido products I have used. Do note that this is my initial impressions after just one usage. I hope they work for me and if they do I do plan to get the Hydrating Lotion and Moisturizing Emulsion in the future. I will update from time to time on whether these Shiseido Men products are really that good as my initial impressions. Thanks for reading ! This post has been edited by jonny4: Feb 22 2010, 08:40 PM |
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Feb 23 2010, 02:54 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 22 2010, 08:40 PM) I bought the Shiseido Cleansing Foam just now and i am very impressed. The price and size of the product is deceiving and the SA said that 125ml can last at least 6 months if used twice a day. I was really skeptical but I decided to try it anyway...just now I used probably a pea size amount (maybe smaller) and the foam generated was enough to cover my face, neck, ears and parts of my back too. So yeah I won't be surprised if it lasted 6 months or more. The price is steep, RM 95 for 125ml. In terms of the cleaning power it rivals other high ends stuff I have used. The main difference is the Shiseido cleanser does not leave my face tight or dry. Probably because they don't use Sodium Laureth Sulfate as a foaming agent. If u don't mind spending close to RM100 on a cleanser, the Shiseido one really beats the rest. Its nice that you are enjoying your purchase. When you were there, they never offer any skin kit or travel kit? If such packs were available, it would be good to test them out rather than buying individually. I saw the product listing in william martins that they have this essential skin kit for rm120, consisting of cleanser(30ml), hydrating or toning lotion(30ml) and total revitalizer(15ml). Its a good trial kit I guess, but I need to call to ensure the availability.I also received a samples of the Hydrating Lotion and Moisturizing Emulsion. The Hydrating Lotion is nice and is a combination of a toner and moisturizer that refreshes the skin and tightens the pores, perfect for my oily skin...I plan to use this in the mornings. This will be a real time saver. Meanwhile the Moisturizing Emulsion seems a little too heavy for day use but absorbs fast into the skin leaving a somewhat matte finish. I will use this only at night as my acne treatments tend to dry up the skin. The Hydrating Lotion retails for RM130 (150ml) but a little goes a long way though so its not too expensive I feel. The SA was telling me that the Toning Lotion is more suited for my oily skin but in the end it's just an overpriced toner. I think the Hydrating Lotion would be a better choice even though I have oily skin as too much harsh products will make the skin produce more oil. Both Toning and Hydrating Lotion are the same price and same quantity so the Hydrating Lotion seems to be more woth the money as it's a toner/moisturizer. So that's my take on the Shiseido products I have used. Do note that this is my initial impressions after just one usage. I hope they work for me and if they do I do plan to get the Hydrating Lotion and Moisturizing Emulsion in the future. I will update from time to time on whether these Shiseido Men products are really that good as my initial impressions. Thanks for reading ! |
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Feb 23 2010, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 22 2010, 01:20 PM) Added on February 22, 2010, 1:22 pm How much is the Total Revitalizer Moisturizing cream ? Quite pricey right ?  There is also the additional loyalty discount.... |
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Feb 23 2010, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Feb 23 2010, 02:54 AM) Its nice that you are enjoying your purchase. When you were there, they never offer any skin kit or travel kit? If such packs were available, it would be good to test them out rather than buying individually. I saw the product listing in william martins that they have this essential skin kit for rm120, consisting of cleanser(30ml), hydrating or toning lotion(30ml) and total revitalizer(15ml). Its a good trial kit I guess, but I need to call to ensure the availability. Actually I did see a trial kit at the counter consisting of a 20-30ml cleanser, 20ml moisturizer and 15ml total revitalizer. But at that time all I wanted was a cleanser that's why I went for the full size cleanser. IIRC, the trial pack costs RM99. William Martins website is so outdated...I am a member and I called them just last week. They have downsized their product portfolio significantly. The only brand they stock the full range is Lab Series. I did see some Shiseido Men products the last time I was there, about 5 months ago. Members only get 5% discount atm so I didn't bother going there to get the cleanser. I rather go counter pay full price n get a few samples. Added on February 23, 2010, 10:12 am QUOTE(andy_lhc @ Feb 23 2010, 09:07 AM) I dont remember how much is it but I bought it from Strawberry net .With 3 items you get 5% off and its shipped via registered mail.... How many times a day do u use the total revitalizer ? does it make your skin oily ? coz fr the description is sounds to me like it's one of those intense anti aging rich creams.There is also the additional loyalty discount.... This post has been edited by jonny4: Feb 23 2010, 10:12 AM |
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Feb 23 2010, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 23 2010, 10:06 AM) Added on February 23, 2010, 10:12 am How many times a day do u use the total revitalizer ? does it make your skin oily ? coz fr the description is sounds to me like it's one of those intense anti aging rich creams. |
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Feb 25 2010, 12:27 PM
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damn... strawberynet just sent me another "we miss you" mail...this time with 13% discount... am started to think if i should test out shiseido men.. since i got the discount, hows ure progress so far jonny?
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Feb 25 2010, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Feb 25 2010, 12:27 PM) damn... strawberynet just sent me another "we miss you" mail...this time with 13% discount... am started to think if i should test out shiseido men.. since i got the discount, hows ure progress so far jonny? The cleanser is really good...it's a basic cleanser that does it's job well without all the nonsense some products promise but fail to deliver. I have never used so little cleanser in my life. Normally I use a 20sen coin size of cleanser but with Shiseido it's about the size of a 5sen coin (maybe less) to clean my face, neck and ears. There is something in the cleanser that cleans the face very well but doesn't leave it tight at all. Do note that I got oily skin so the Shiseido cleanser may not be suitable for those with dry skin. The Hydrating Lotion is also good but needs some getting use to as it has a watery consistency. I use about a 5 sen coin amount for my whole face and neck. It hydrates well and leaves a thin layer on the face that seems to stop my face from getting too oily but at the same time hydrates and moisturizes my face well. But some may find this layer a bit uncomfortable at first as it is a bit sticky. I solved this by using less Lotion. The Moisturizing Emulsion is a very thin and light moisturizer that spreads very well. I only use a 10 sen coin amount for the whole face. It is heavier than my existing Clinique M Gel and Biotherm T Pur moisturizers so I'm only using this at night. Shiseido has a RM99 trial set consisting of a 20-30ml cleanser, 20-30 ml Moisturizing Emulsion (or was it a hydrating lotion..i can't recall properly) and 15ml Total Revitalizer. I spotted this at the Shiseido counter at Parkson 1U. They have another product called the Toning Lotion. I find this one a waste of money as it is quite expensive and does nothing much for the face. With the 13% discount is should be a a good buy. The current prices on strawberry.net for Shiseido products are only a few ringgit cheaper than the counter. |
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Feb 25 2010, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 25 2010, 03:07 PM) The cleanser is really good...it's a basic cleanser that does it's job well without all the nonsense some products promise but fail to deliver. I have never used so little cleanser in my life. Normally I use a 20sen coin size of cleanser but with Shiseido it's about the size of a 5sen coin (maybe less) to clean my face, neck and ears. There is something in the cleanser that cleans the face very well but doesn't leave it tight at all. Do note that I got oily skin so the Shiseido cleanser may not be suitable for those with dry skin. I have combination skin, so I hope it works out fine for me. But anyway I think I've decided to pop by a nearby Shiseido counter to purchase the trial set and at the same time, get some of their consultations/opinions on their product and of course some samples as well. It seems that the strawberrynet we miss you discount, if u wait even longer it would go up to 25% discount... so at this period of time, while I try the trial kit and it goes well, I would just get it off from strawberrynet the retail size once they send another of their we miss you email lol. As for the trial kit, I'm quite sure it would be 30ml cleanser, 30 ml hydrating/toning(you may choose) lotion and 15ml total revitalizer. I have checked Shiseido Men's Japan website(more info) and it seems that hydrating lotion is the most lightweighted moisturiser.The Hydrating Lotion is also good but needs some getting use to as it has a watery consistency. I use about a 5 sen coin amount for my whole face and neck. It hydrates well and leaves a thin layer on the face that seems to stop my face from getting too oily but at the same time hydrates and moisturizes my face well. But some may find this layer a bit uncomfortable at first as it is a bit sticky. I solved this by using less Lotion. The Moisturizing Emulsion is a very thin and light moisturizer that spreads very well. I only use a 10 sen coin amount for the whole face. It is heavier than my existing Clinique M Gel and Biotherm T Pur moisturizers so I'm only using this at night. Shiseido has a RM99 trial set consisting of a 20-30ml cleanser, 20-30 ml Moisturizing Emulsion (or was it a hydrating lotion..i can't recall properly) and 15ml Total Revitalizer. I spotted this at the Shiseido counter at Parkson 1U. They have another product called the Toning Lotion. I find this one a waste of money as it is quite expensive and does nothing much for the face. With the 13% discount is should be a a good buy. The current prices on strawberry.net for Shiseido products are only a few ringgit cheaper than the counter. |
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Feb 25 2010, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Feb 25 2010, 07:31 PM) I have combination skin, so I hope it works out fine for me. But anyway I think I've decided to pop by a nearby Shiseido counter to purchase the trial set and at the same time, get some of their consultations/opinions on their product and of course some samples as well. It seems that the strawberrynet we miss you discount, if u wait even longer it would go up to 25% discount... so at this period of time, while I try the trial kit and it goes well, I would just get it off from strawberrynet the retail size once they send another of their we miss you email lol. As for the trial kit, I'm quite sure it would be 30ml cleanser, 30 ml hydrating/toning(you may choose) lotion and 15ml total revitalizer. I have checked Shiseido Men's Japan website(more info) and it seems that hydrating lotion is the most lightweighted moisturiser. The trial set would be a good choice for you and would last quite long as a little goes a long way I was very tempted to get the Toning Lotion initially but when I looked the ingredients list the Toning Lotion was exactly the same as the Hydrating Lotion minus the moisturizing qualities and both the same price. The Hydrating Lotion should suit your combination skin very well. I am quite surprised at how well it hydrates my skin even though I use so little. Funny thing is that only in Asia does Shiseido sell the Toning Lotion. In Europe and North America, only the Hydrating Lotion is available. We Asians sure love toners |
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Feb 25 2010, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 25 2010, 07:50 PM) The trial set would be a good choice for you and would last quite long as a little goes a long way Ah, then I'll try the one with hydrating lotion, thanks for your opinion =). Perhaps in Asia it is more hot and humid, esp here and Singapore. Hence, the people living in such places usually have skin producing more oil due to heat especially... which specifically allow them to market another lotion but without moisturizing properties. Oh well its just another marketing scheme I was very tempted to get the Toning Lotion initially but when I looked the ingredients list the Toning Lotion was exactly the same as the Hydrating Lotion minus the moisturizing qualities and both the same price. The Hydrating Lotion should suit your combination skin very well. I am quite surprised at how well it hydrates my skin even though I use so little. Funny thing is that only in Asia does Shiseido sell the Toning Lotion. In Europe and North America, only the Hydrating Lotion is available. We Asians sure love toners |
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Feb 25 2010, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Feb 25 2010, 08:06 PM) Ah, then I'll try the one with hydrating lotion, thanks for your opinion =). Perhaps in Asia it is more hot and humid, esp here and Singapore. Hence, the people living in such places usually have skin producing more oil due to heat especially... which specifically allow them to market another lotion but without moisturizing properties. Oh well its just another marketing scheme After using countless "oil control" toners, all I can say is that I have had enough of toners as they consist mostly of alcohol and witch hazel and don't really do much for my skin. I also believe that too much harsh products to control oil will be counter productive and the face will just produce more oil. But I must admit that I love the refreshing feel of a toner early in the morning. That's why the Hydrating Lotion was like a godsend for me...toner and moisturizer all in one |
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Feb 25 2010, 09:06 PM
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ive tried lots of facial products...right now using eumora soap...and surprisingly it works....need to use it twice daily....morning n night...
wash ur face...take the soap n make a thick layer of foam..apply on face..leave it for 3mins...rinse...feels great...pimples,scars going away... now im selling it as it works...rm95...do pm me if interested my face not oily anymore and pores shrinking... visit http://www.eumoraskinhealth.com/ This post has been edited by asusfreak: Feb 25 2010, 09:13 PM |
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Feb 25 2010, 09:35 PM
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how to get rid of blackhead easily?
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Feb 25 2010, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(stolid @ Feb 25 2010, 09:35 PM) how to get rid of blackhead easily? Try Biore Pore Pack a few times a week. A toner with salicylic acid could work too but i think the Biore is more effective. |
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Feb 28 2010, 03:51 AM
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what brand do u guys recommend ? My face is oily type and now with pimple scars.. (some new pimples, but minor) it's kinda bugging and i'm dying for a solution out of it..thx a bunch guys!
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Feb 28 2010, 09:13 AM
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Previously I use a lot of products that dry the face up to get rid of oil...toners, cleansers and oil control moisturizers...all were quite harsh and my face just ended up producing more oil. So I am currently trying a different approach where I use more gentle products.
Currently trying Shisiedo Men products. I love the foaming cleanser and ended up buying a full size tube last week. The hydrating lotion i use in the day as a toner/moisturizer and i noticed that my skin is less oily. I mean my skin is not matte or totally oil free but the oil produced reaches a certain level and tends to stop. I think this is because my skin is no longer stripped of all the oils so less oil is produced. I find all those anti acne cleansers, toners and moisturizers are not that effective. These products are expensive and very harsh on the skin. I have tried brands like Clinique, Lab Series, Biotherm and countless pharmacy brands too. In the end it's the anti acne medication that works best and is most effective. I currently use Avene Diacneal as night for my acne..it's quite good. Check out the face care thread for more info. The Avene brand is not bad too. |
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Feb 28 2010, 11:32 AM
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Thread title "Toner and Moisturizer, for oily and pimple skin" by lolz1120 merged..
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Feb 28 2010, 04:04 PM
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Do any of you exfoliate your faces? I use one of Body Shop's little exfoliating pad, and occasionally I use a pineapple facial exfoliator. I wonder if there are more "canggih" stuff out there.
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Feb 28 2010, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(kotmj @ Feb 28 2010, 04:04 PM) Do any of you exfoliate your faces? I use one of Body Shop's little exfoliating pad, and occasionally I use a pineapple facial exfoliator. I wonder if there are more "canggih" stuff out there. I do exfoliate with the Lab Series Invigorating Face Scrub twice a week. It's not a bad scrub but too little ingredients for the RM80 price tag. I will be getting the Clinique Skin Supplies for Men Face Scrub when I am done with the Lab Series one. Other than that I also use the Lab Series Purifying Clay Mask twice a week, a salicylic acid toner once a day at night and a 6% glycolic acid acne treatment at night after the toner. Salicylic acid and glycolic acids are chemical exfoliators that require no rubbing unlike scrubs or exfoliating pads. But can be too much for sensitive skins. Using an exfoliating pad is fine but make sure it is hygienically kept. |
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Feb 28 2010, 05:56 PM
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Those are some really expensive stuff.
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Feb 28 2010, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(kotmj @ Feb 28 2010, 05:56 PM) Those are some really expensive stuff. Expensive yes but they last a long time. My Lab Series mask and scrub are still about half full even though I bought them about 4 months ago. |
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Feb 28 2010, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 28 2010, 09:13 AM) Previously I use a lot of products that dry the face up to get rid of oil...toners, cleansers and oil control moisturizers...all were quite harsh and my face just ended up producing more oil. So I am currently trying a different approach where I use more gentle products. Woo, finally got my Shiseido men essential kit pack. It consists of 30ml cleansing foam + 30ml moisturizing emulsion + 15ml total revitalizer, no longer with 30ml hydrating/toning lotion pack. Haven't try the foaming cleanser yet, but the moisturizing emulsion seems a bit too greasy for my liking, unless I use it in an air conditioned room. Got mine from Isetan Gardens. The SA let me test on hydrating and toning lotion. The toning lotion seems very cooling but after sometime I feel my skin is a bit more dry compared to the area using hydrating lotion. She intended to give me some toning lotion sample to try but it was out, so she gave me hydrating lotion instead... which I think I would prefer more ;P. The area where hydrating lotion was used, was soft and supple...something that I never really get before from many moisturizers unless living a greasy feeling(or if i use a mask)... this lotion doesn't seem to do so! I even asked for the scrub to try on. Would review again once have tried all the Shiseido products.Currently trying Shisiedo Men products. I love the foaming cleanser and ended up buying a full size tube last week. The hydrating lotion i use in the day as a toner/moisturizer and i noticed that my skin is less oily. I mean my skin is not matte or totally oil free but the oil produced reaches a certain level and tends to stop. I think this is because my skin is no longer stripped of all the oils so less oil is produced. I find all those anti acne cleansers, toners and moisturizers are not that effective. These products are expensive and very harsh on the skin. I have tried brands like Clinique, Lab Series, Biotherm and countless pharmacy brands too. In the end it's the anti acne medication that works best and is most effective. I currently use Avene Diacneal as night for my acne..it's quite good. Check out the face care thread for more info. The Avene brand is not bad too. |
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Feb 28 2010, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Feb 28 2010, 06:54 PM) Woo, finally got my Shiseido men essential kit pack. It consists of 30ml cleansing foam + 30ml moisturizing emulsion + 15ml total revitalizer, no longer with 30ml hydrating/toning lotion pack. Haven't try the foaming cleanser yet, but the moisturizing emulsion seems a bit too greasy for my liking, unless I use it in an air conditioned room. Got mine from Isetan Gardens. The SA let me test on hydrating and toning lotion. The toning lotion seems very cooling but after sometime I feel my skin is a bit more dry compared to the area using hydrating lotion. She intended to give me some toning lotion sample to try but it was out, so she gave me hydrating lotion instead... which I think I would prefer more ;P. The area where hydrating lotion was used, was soft and supple...something that I never really get before from many moisturizers unless living a greasy feeling(or if i use a mask)... this lotion doesn't seem to do so! I even asked for the scrub to try on. Would review again once have tried all the Shiseido products. Good to hear that u r liking some of the products ! I agree that the moisturizing emulsion is heavy and greasy. I been using it for a week now and my skin texture actually improved..very smooth and supple. I was expecting to break but it never happened. The trick with using the moisturizing emulsion is to use a small measured amount. I used a 10sen coin size and it was too much...i adjusted and now using a 5sen coin size..seems just right to cover the whole face. Also I think it's best to apply it this way...apply a 5sen coin amount to palm, spread around both hands (palms n fingers) and massage onto face and neck. Massaging it into the skin is key in order for the moisturizing emulsion to be less greasy and heavy. I used to use Clinique M Gel and the moisturizing emulsion beats it hands down...M Gel is so light that I sometimes can hardly see any noticeable benefit from using it. Same price as the moisturizing emulsion, I rather use the shiseido as a little goes a long way and the full size 100ml is going to last a long time. Btw, I only use the moisturizing emulsion at night as my acne med is strong and dries the skin...not to mention my room is air conditioned. In the day the Hydrating Lotion is awesome as a toner and moisturizer..feels great when applied after shaving. The scrub is disappointing as it's basically the cleanser with some exfoliating beads and granules. I prefer more hardcore scrubs instead of a 2 in 1 scrub-cleanser combo. Have u used the Clinique Skin Supplies For Men Face Scrub ? Any comments on it ? |
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Feb 28 2010, 08:56 PM
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Just for the fun of it, here's what I use:
Cleanser: sebamed liquid face & body wash. I've used this for years, and while I may try other cleansers I always come back to this. Lasts forever. Exfoliator: Freeman Facial Enzyme Mask Pineapple. Contains AHA and pineapple extract and silica sand. You get chemical and mechanical exfoliation. Moisturizer: Nivea for Men Oil Control Moisturiser. This is incredible. L'Oreal sells something similar with Pierce Brosnan promoting it, but PB is expensive and this is not. The best moisturiser for my oily face I've discovered to date. If any of you with oily faces have used any of these but got better results using something else, speak up! |
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Feb 28 2010, 09:26 PM
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blackhead problem is always bugging me all this while..i've tried everything, deep cleanse facial foam, scrub, pore packs and none of them helps...my fren recommends black bean nose pack (Skin food) anyone used it before ? does toner help ?
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Feb 28 2010, 09:29 PM
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I, too, have a major problem with blackheads. I know of no solution.
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Feb 28 2010, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(kotmj @ Feb 28 2010, 09:29 PM) I, too, have a major problem with blackheads. I know of no solution. how good if we could just pop those shitty stuffs in the pores out.. =( |
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Feb 28 2010, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(kotmj @ Feb 28 2010, 08:56 PM) Just for the fun of it, here's what I use: Here's my skin care list: Cleanser: sebamed liquid face & body wash. I've used this for years, and while I may try other cleansers I always come back to this. Lasts forever. Exfoliator: Freeman Facial Enzyme Mask Pineapple. Contains AHA and pineapple extract and silica sand. You get chemical and mechanical exfoliation. Moisturizer: Nivea for Men Oil Control Moisturiser. This is incredible. L'Oreal sells something similar with Pierce Brosnan promoting it, but PB is expensive and this is not. The best moisturiser for my oily face I've discovered to date. If any of you with oily faces have used any of these but got better results using something else, speak up! Cleanser: Shiseido Men Cleansing Foam. Quite expensive but does a very good job and I only use about half a pea size amount. 125ml I think can last me at least 6 months. Gentle on skin and never leaves my skin tight. Toner (day): Shiseido Men Hydrating Lotion. A nice toner-moisturizer that hydrates my oily skin well and prevents excess oil. Toner (night): Avene Cleanance Anti Shine Purifying Lotion. A very effective but kind on skin toner. Contains salicylic acid (BHA) and the level of alcohol is lower than other toners in the market. Scrub: Lab Series Invigorating Face Scrub. A very basic scrub but does a good job. Expensive but better than the pharmacy brands that are either too watery or too coarse. Mask: Lab Series Purifying Clay Mask. Clay, charcoal and salicylic acid makes this quite a good mask. The texture makes it easy to spread and only a thin layer is needed. Moisturizer (day): Shiseido Men Hydrating Lotion/Clinique M Gel Lotion. On the days I shave i use the Shiseido. However I am not impressed with the Clinique and will not repurchase. Moisturizer (night): Shiseido Moisturizing Emulsion. One of the best I have used because it does what it promises to. I have oily skin but I believe that oil is better controlled when the skin is sufficiently hydrated. I love the texture and I only need a 5sen coin size amount for my whole face and neck. Oil Control (day): Clarins Anti Shine Gel. I have tried a few oil control moisturizers before but this one delivers. On a normal day I get 4-5 hours of matte oil free skin. But I don't think I will repurchase as the price is a killer. RM147 for 50ml tube. Anti Acne (night): Avene Diacneal. Having used numerous acne meds before this, Diacneal was my last hope before going on prescription meds. It is good stuff but not for those that want immediate results. Some ladies I know even use this as an anti aging cream. Sunscreen: Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry Touch Sunblock SPF50. I need to use sunscreen as the AHA in Diacneal makes my skin photosensitive. This sunscreen is one of the cheapest but less oily ones I can find. Gives quite a matte finish. Added on February 28, 2010, 10:19 pm QUOTE(lolz1120 @ Feb 28 2010, 09:46 PM) how good if we could just pop those shitty stuffs in the pores out.. =( Not easy to get rid of blackheads yourself man. go to one of those skin care places and get the beautician to manually extract the blackheads. After that use a toner with salicylic acid to prevent the blackheads from forming. Scrubs and masks can be used to but not daily. When buying products for blackheads always make sure it contains salicylic acid (BHA) and in good amounts. Biore Pore pack can also be used weekly to get rid of blackheads but can be a little tough on sensitive skin.This post has been edited by jonny4: Feb 28 2010, 10:19 PM |
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Feb 28 2010, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 28 2010, 10:11 PM) Not easy to get rid of blackheads yourself man. go to one of those skin care places and get the beautician to manually extract the blackheads. After that use a toner with salicylic acid to prevent the blackheads from forming. Scrubs and masks can be used to but not daily. When buying products for blackheads always make sure it contains salicylic acid (BHA) and in good amounts. Biore Pore pack can also be used weekly to get rid of blackheads but can be a little tough on sensitive skin. |
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Feb 28 2010, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(lolz1120 @ Feb 28 2010, 10:50 PM) i tried biore..can't take out a single thing =( Then it might be time for a facial LOL I have not gone for one myself. |
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Feb 28 2010, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 28 2010, 10:52 PM) Then it might be time for a facial LOL yea..guess they're real tough ones.. =(I have not gone for one myself. |
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Feb 28 2010, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(lolz1120 @ Feb 28 2010, 10:55 PM) yea..guess they're real tough ones.. =( Ever tried those peel off mask? There are a few in guardian/watsons... I've personally not tried such before but from my cousin's feedback it seems effective than those nose peel thing.Added on February 28, 2010, 11:22 pm QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 28 2010, 07:21 PM) Good to hear that u r liking some of the products ! I agree that the moisturizing emulsion is heavy and greasy. I been using it for a week now and my skin texture actually improved..very smooth and supple. I was expecting to break but it never happened. The trick with using the moisturizing emulsion is to use a small measured amount. I used a 10sen coin size and it was too much...i adjusted and now using a 5sen coin size..seems just right to cover the whole face. Yea I think the SA gave me too much of it too, around 10cent just on my hand lol... So yeah, would take your advice and adjust according to my needs. I did visit Clinique before for consultation and she was kind enough to give me some M Gel sample. But after 1-2 days trying it, I start to get the itchiness sensation, so I banned all Clinique stuff lol. So to answer your question, nope never used Clinique men face scrub. Also I think it's best to apply it this way...apply a 5sen coin amount to palm, spread around both hands (palms n fingers) and massage onto face and neck. Massaging it into the skin is key in order for the moisturizing emulsion to be less greasy and heavy. I used to use Clinique M Gel and the moisturizing emulsion beats it hands down...M Gel is so light that I sometimes can hardly see any noticeable benefit from using it. Same price as the moisturizing emulsion, I rather use the shiseido as a little goes a long way and the full size 100ml is going to last a long time. Btw, I only use the moisturizing emulsion at night as my acne med is strong and dries the skin...not to mention my room is air conditioned. In the day the Hydrating Lotion is awesome as a toner and moisturizer..feels great when applied after shaving. The scrub is disappointing as it's basically the cleanser with some exfoliating beads and granules. I prefer more hardcore scrubs instead of a 2 in 1 scrub-cleanser combo. Have u used the Clinique Skin Supplies For Men Face Scrub ? Any comments on it ? However I have indeed used Dermalogica's skin prep scrub. It uses corn granules to do the scrubbing. I have to say its nice but the price is a little on the higher side. Upon finding other alternatives, I came across skin food's black sugar wash off mask (click here), which works as exfoliator and mask (rm 40+ for 100ml...great value).... going to try that once my current scrub finishes. I just got myself skin food's cucumber hydrating mask(rm 33 for 100ml) as my Dermalogica's skin hydrating mask is about to finish. If you read the ingredients label of this cucumber mask... the 3rd ingredient is already cucumber extract.. which indirectly means the quantity of cucumber extract is high and thus more natural compared to most other brands where cucumber extract etc is among the bottom of the ingredients list. In common practice, the ingredients with the highest quantity is listed first, and of course with descending order. Have not try the cucumber mask yet, when I do will review it =) This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: Feb 28 2010, 11:22 PM |
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Mar 1 2010, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Feb 28 2010, 11:08 PM) Yea I think the SA gave me too much of it too, around 10cent just on my hand lol... So yeah, would take your advice and adjust according to my needs. I did visit Clinique before for consultation and she was kind enough to give me some M Gel sample. But after 1-2 days trying it, I start to get the itchiness sensation, so I banned all Clinique stuff lol. So to answer your question, nope never used Clinique men face scrub. I also noticed that if u apply the moisturizing emulsion right after cleansing, it will absorb better and have a better finish. It works well as an aftershave too haha. I do like Clinique M Gel but it costs RM140 (100ml) and is too basic of a moisturizer to warrant such a high price. At the moment Shiseido Moist. Emulsion seems like a better option for me. However I have indeed used Dermalogica's skin prep scrub. It uses corn granules to do the scrubbing. I have to say its nice but the price is a little on the higher side. Upon finding other alternatives, I came across skin food's black sugar wash off mask (click here), which works as exfoliator and mask (rm 40+ for 100ml...great value).... going to try that once my current scrub finishes. I just got myself skin food's cucumber hydrating mask(rm 33 for 100ml) as my Dermalogica's skin hydrating mask is about to finish. If you read the ingredients label of this cucumber mask... the 3rd ingredient is already cucumber extract.. which indirectly means the quantity of cucumber extract is high and thus more natural compared to most other brands where cucumber extract etc is among the bottom of the ingredients list. In common practice, the ingredients with the highest quantity is listed first, and of course with descending order. Have not try the cucumber mask yet, when I do will review it =) Thanks for the scrub suggestions but I have read that for my acne prone skin, the best scrubs are the ones with small polyethylene beads. this minimizes the risk of infection caused by sharp exfoliating particles. For example the St.Ives Apricot scrub uses crushed apricot shells/seeds. I will definitely check out the Dermalogica and Skin Food suggestions. Yea I am aware of the order in the ingredients list. That's why I stopped using Clinique toners because of the very high alcohol content LOL. |
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Mar 1 2010, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 1 2010, 12:02 AM) I also noticed that if u apply the moisturizing emulsion right after cleansing, it will absorb better and have a better finish. It works well as an aftershave too haha. I do like Clinique M Gel but it costs RM140 (100ml) and is too basic of a moisturizer to warrant such a high price. At the moment Shiseido Moist. Emulsion seems like a better option for me. Well... but the Shiseido hydrating lotion too has high alcohol content =P ...Thanks for the scrub suggestions but I have read that for my acne prone skin, the best scrubs are the ones with small polyethylene beads. this minimizes the risk of infection caused by sharp exfoliating particles. For example the St.Ives Apricot scrub uses crushed apricot shells/seeds. I will definitely check out the Dermalogica and Skin Food suggestions. Yea I am aware of the order in the ingredients list. That's why I stopped using Clinique toners because of the very high alcohol content LOL. Well for gentle scrub, you may want to try their rice mask.... it seems to be their best selling product This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: Mar 1 2010, 12:09 AM |
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Mar 1 2010, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Mar 1 2010, 12:08 AM) Well... but the Shiseido hydrating lotion too has high alcohol content =P ... Not as high as the Clinique toner Well for gentle scrub, you may want to try their rice mask.... it seems to be their best selling product I've got oily skin so some alcohol can be tolerated. |
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QUOTE(lolz1120 @ Feb 28 2010, 10:55 PM) yea..guess they're real tough ones.. =( Did u try pressing them out with ur fingers,like how u press pimples? Rinse ur nose with warm to hot (not boiling hot) water before helps alot. I do this about once every 3 weeks. |
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 1 2010, 12:59 AM) Not as high as the Clinique toner Lets hope my skin would tolerate it too ~_~ I've got oily skin so some alcohol can be tolerated. |
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Mar 1 2010, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(crapoccur @ Mar 1 2010, 01:04 AM) Did u try pressing them out with ur fingers,like how u press pimples? Rinse ur nose with warm to hot (not boiling hot) water before helps alot. I do this about once every 3 weeks. yes i tried dat..but they just won't come out..and i end up with a reddish nose like clown..my nose is very smooth on the surface, i guess they're buried very deep inside... =( |
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Mar 3 2010, 11:41 AM
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anyone know where we can get Jack Black products in malaysia?
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Mar 3 2010, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(rockets @ Mar 3 2010, 11:41 AM) anyone know where we can get Jack Black products in malaysia? I have been looking for that brand too but so far I have not seen it in msia yet. |
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Mar 3 2010, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(rockets @ Mar 3 2010, 11:41 AM) anyone know where we can get Jack Black products in malaysia? if you have been using it and wana buy their products, you can get it via http://oth.strawberrynet.com/mens-fragranc...are/jack-black/they deliver free to msia if you are looking forward to test their product...then its kinda risky buying straight away... hope this helps |
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Mar 3 2010, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Mar 3 2010, 03:56 PM) if you have been using it and wana buy their products, you can get it via http://oth.strawberrynet.com/mens-fragranc...are/jack-black/ Thanks for the info.they deliver free to msia if you are looking forward to test their product...then its kinda risky buying straight away... hope this helps How are the Shiseido products working for you ? |
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Mar 4 2010, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 3 2010, 03:58 PM) Thanks for the info. NpHow are the Shiseido products working for you ? Yeah... about Shiseido products... I have to say its the best men's line I've ever tried. cleanser: Best stuff I've ever used. It foams so well and after washing it, non drying at all. Face doesn't feel tight. Its among the best cleansing foam I've used. I've used biotherm's high recharge cleansing foam and it foams up very well too, but it causes some tight sensation to face several minutes after washing. When used for weeks, my face starts to get even oilier. Lets hope Shiseido's cleansing foam won't cause such problem =) scrub: I don't think I enjoyed it. The scrubbing beads were too fine for me and after scrubbing, I feel that my face had gone a little red. I guess my face never liked ultra fine beads. Prefer my good old dermalogica scrub. hydrating lotion: This is it! The best lightweight moisturizer I've ever found for my skin! Upon applying, can feel that my skin is supple and I just tested it today, applied from 2pm till now (12am)...very minimal oil produced compared to many other products I've tried. Definitely will repurchase. The only concern is that its too watery...almost like water... very low viscosity. Hence, its a little more difficult to apply it, have to slowly apply it part by part to my face, instead of squeezing some to my palm, rub it warm and massage to my face. Any better idea to apply it? moisturizing emulsion: After adjusting the amount accordingly, it works perfectly as well. Just need around 5cents or less to cover my whole face. This stuff really smoothen my skin even for the first time using it. I suppose it is more suitable making this as the night time moisturizer total revitalizer: haven't try, will update later once tried =p This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: Mar 4 2010, 12:08 AM |
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Mar 4 2010, 12:31 AM
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Mar 4 2010, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Mar 4 2010, 12:07 AM) Np Great to hear Shiseido is working for you man ! I must agree that their products are top notch. The cleansing foam should be fine as I have been using it for a week now and it never dried my face out unlike other "oil control" cleansers i have used. Yeah... about Shiseido products... I have to say its the best men's line I've ever tried. cleanser: Best stuff I've ever used. It foams so well and after washing it, non drying at all. Face doesn't feel tight. Its among the best cleansing foam I've used. I've used biotherm's high recharge cleansing foam and it foams up very well too, but it causes some tight sensation to face several minutes after washing. When used for weeks, my face starts to get even oilier. Lets hope Shiseido's cleansing foam won't cause such problem =) scrub: I don't think I enjoyed it. The scrubbing beads were too fine for me and after scrubbing, I feel that my face had gone a little red. I guess my face never liked ultra fine beads. Prefer my good old dermalogica scrub. hydrating lotion: This is it! The best lightweight moisturizer I've ever found for my skin! Upon applying, can feel that my skin is supple and I just tested it today, applied from 2pm till now (12am)...very minimal oil produced compared to many other products I've tried. Definitely will repurchase. The only concern is that its too watery...almost like water... very low viscosity. Hence, its a little more difficult to apply it, have to slowly apply it part by part to my face, instead of squeezing some to my palm, rub it warm and massage to my face. Any better idea to apply it? moisturizing emulsion: After adjusting the amount accordingly, it works perfectly as well. Just need around 5cents or less to cover my whole face. This stuff really smoothen my skin even for the first time using it. I suppose it is more suitable making this as the night time moisturizer total revitalizer: haven't try, will update later once tried =p I find the deep cleansing scrub too much of a cleanser than a scrub. The particles are fine but too little as I prefer those scrubs packed full with scrub particles. I don't find it worth the RM105 price tag although I must admit the tube will last a very long time. I tried applying the hydrating lotion like u do but ended up using too much and take too long. I apply the lotion the same way i apply the moisturizing emulsion...i squirt out about 4-5 drops (5 sen coin size again) and spread it between both hands (palms and fingers) and apply to face with a patting motion. After the lotion dries a bit i massage it in a little. But u need to apply it fast if u do it this way or your palms will end up absorbing some haha. The SA recommended I use a cotton pad but I find I use too much when apply with cotton. I too noticed a reduction in facial oil after using the hydrating lotion. It's a total turnaround for me as in the past I always stayed clear of anything hydrating as my skin is oily and acne prone. Hydrating Lotion is my holy grail ! going to buy this today. I recently tried using the moist. emulsion in the day instead of hydrating lotion and it works great too. I think I used less than a 5 sen coin size amount and concentrated more on the cheeks and neck and just a little on the t zone. It does control oil to a certain extent too but in terms of shine control it's not so good. Yeah I agree that it works better as a night time moist for younger skins. I think I will buy the emulsion too once my current moisturizer finishes. I think it's great that the products don't promise so many things but still works very well on my skin. Pricey yes but I think it's worth it. Waiting for your take on the total revitalizer |
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Mar 12 2010, 02:01 AM
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Hmm, after almost 2 weeks testing hydrating lotion... I can say its really good. At first, I was having some slight breakout here and there, but I guess its just the grace period of changing skincare products after jonny4 told me to continue testing it on my first week of breakout. I can say he's indeed right haha. The breakout occured and a few days ago, I can feel my left face is about to have one big breakout...can feel the bump.. but I had a crazy idea to even add more hydrating lotion to that area. By the 2nd day, the swelling feeling has gone and it didnt breakout. Then I started applying more hydrating lotion on my breakout spots. This magic lotion really soothes it and within days they have subsided... really good stuff!
I wanted to try toning lotion as I enjoyed the cooling effect it gives but it seems that every Shiseido counter in MidValley does not have the stock. The SA at Jusco told me the HQ has never been replenishing the toning lotion sample since last year but the retail packaging is still selling strong, real odd. Anyway.. going to get this hydrating lotion soon! Waiting for Isetan's sale... hehe can collect points n get voucher. Tried hunting for jonny4's suggestion on lab series clay mask... the SA at Metrojaya told me many customers complained the mask was too dry and they have discontinued bringing them in 0.o.... Looks like I need to continue searching |
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Mar 12 2010, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Mar 12 2010, 02:01 AM) Hmm, after almost 2 weeks testing hydrating lotion... I can say its really good. At first, I was having some slight breakout here and there, but I guess its just the grace period of changing skincare products after jonny4 told me to continue testing it on my first week of breakout. I can say he's indeed right haha. The breakout occured and a few days ago, I can feel my left face is about to have one big breakout...can feel the bump.. but I had a crazy idea to even add more hydrating lotion to that area. By the 2nd day, the swelling feeling has gone and it didnt breakout. Then I started applying more hydrating lotion on my breakout spots. This magic lotion really soothes it and within days they have subsided... really good stuff! Wow I didn't know the Hydrating Lotion was that good LOL. I agree that it is amazing stuff...It's good to hear that the breakouts have subsided and u are liking the hydrating lotion. I did ask for a sample for the toning lotion but the SA at the Parkson 1U counter told me the same thing. But both toning and Hydrating Lotion are almost the same but I still prefer the Hydrating Lotion as its a 2 in 1 toner/moisturizer whereas the toning lotion is a very expensive basic toner. I am not surprised that the toning lotion is selling well as the SAs really push it strongly. I wanted to try toning lotion as I enjoyed the cooling effect it gives but it seems that every Shiseido counter in MidValley does not have the stock. The SA at Jusco told me the HQ has never been replenishing the toning lotion sample since last year but the retail packaging is still selling strong, real odd. Anyway.. going to get this hydrating lotion soon! Waiting for Isetan's sale... hehe can collect points n get voucher. Tried hunting for jonny4's suggestion on lab series clay mask... the SA at Metrojaya told me many customers complained the mask was too dry and they have discontinued bringing them in 0.o.... Looks like I need to continue searching I must agree that the Lab Series clay mask is rather strong...my guess is because of the salicylic acid and clay. I been using it for 5 months and it's been working well for me skin. Btw, I bought mine from Robinsons. But if they really stop bringing it in I am disappointed...it was like my perfect holy grail mask On the other hand I ordered this cheap clay mask called Queen Helene Mint Julep Masque off ebay. RM18 for a 60ml tube. It's a cheap but highly regarded mask that great for acne n oily skin. If this one works well for me then it would be a perfect substitute for the Lab Series mask. |
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Mar 12 2010, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 12 2010, 09:42 AM) Wow I didn't know the Hydrating Lotion was that good LOL. I agree that it is amazing stuff...It's good to hear that the breakouts have subsided and u are liking the hydrating lotion. I did ask for a sample for the toning lotion but the SA at the Parkson 1U counter told me the same thing. But both toning and Hydrating Lotion are almost the same but I still prefer the Hydrating Lotion as its a 2 in 1 toner/moisturizer whereas the toning lotion is a very expensive basic toner. I am not surprised that the toning lotion is selling well as the SAs really push it strongly. Well in my opinion it would be really good if they add the cooling properties in hydrating lotion too...but I'm glad I found this lotion nevertheless =) I must agree that the Lab Series clay mask is rather strong...my guess is because of the salicylic acid and clay. I been using it for 5 months and it's been working well for me skin. Btw, I bought mine from Robinsons. But if they really stop bringing it in I am disappointed...it was like my perfect holy grail mask On the other hand I ordered this cheap clay mask called Queen Helene Mint Julep Masque off ebay. RM18 for a 60ml tube. It's a cheap but highly regarded mask that great for acne n oily skin. If this one works well for me then it would be a perfect substitute for the Lab Series mask. Nah don't need to be disappointed. You can still order your clay mask off strawberrynet.com =p at here: http://us.strawberrynet.com/mens-fragrance...kincare/aramis/ |
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Mar 12 2010, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Mar 12 2010, 11:32 AM) Well in my opinion it would be really good if they add the cooling properties in hydrating lotion too...but I'm glad I found this lotion nevertheless =) I did some research to compare the ingredients of both hydrating and toning lotion. The main difference is that Toning Lotion has more alcohol denat, menthol and Paeonia Albiflora Root Extract. The menthol and extra alcohol denat won't suit your sensitive skin as far as i know. Nah don't need to be disappointed. You can still order your clay mask off strawberrynet.com =p at here: http://us.strawberrynet.com/mens-fragrance...kincare/aramis/ |
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Mar 12 2010, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 12 2010, 12:16 PM) I did some research to compare the ingredients of both hydrating and toning lotion. The main difference is that Toning Lotion has more alcohol denat, menthol and Paeonia Albiflora Root Extract. The menthol and extra alcohol denat won't suit your sensitive skin as far as i know. Ah i see, perhaps the main reason for hydrating lotion to stay as it is now. |
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Mar 12 2010, 09:31 PM
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A Aesop SA was very generous and gave me 2 1.5ml samples of the Aesop Chamomile Concentrate Anti-Blemish Masque. There are 2 sizes, a small 50ml for RM75 (in a toothpaste tube) and a larger 75ml for RM135 (in a tub/jar). I just applied the mask and when initially applied I found it to be very watery, light and has a cooling sensation. It looked like it didn't really cover my face well. About 30 seconds later when it dried the mask is now very visible and has a earthy reddish color and is actually very thick on my face...I applied too much I guess.
Later I will post on how effective this mask is. It is very highly rated and expensive...so let's see if it lives up to the hype. |
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Mar 12 2010, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 12 2010, 09:31 PM) A Aesop SA was very generous and gave me 2 1.5ml samples of the Aesop Chamomile Concentrate Anti-Blemish Masque. There are 2 sizes, a small 50ml for RM75 (in a toothpaste tube) and a larger 75ml for RM135 (in a tub/jar). I just applied the mask and when initially applied I found it to be very watery, light and has a cooling sensation. It looked like it didn't really cover my face well. About 30 seconds later when it dried the mask is now very visible and has a earthy reddish color and is actually very thick on my face...I applied too much I guess. I just got back from Guardian, and got this mask my cousin recommended me: Montagne Jeunesse for men peel off deep pore cleansing masque...will try it later lol... first time i see those individually packed mask for men, rm6 per pack.Later I will post on how effective this mask is. It is very highly rated and expensive...so let's see if it lives up to the hype. |
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Mar 12 2010, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Mar 12 2010, 09:41 PM) I just got back from Guardian, and got this mask my cousin recommended me: Montagne Jeunesse for men peel off deep pore cleansing masque...will try it later lol... first time i see those individually packed mask for men, rm6 per pack. Nice ! Do give us a review on the mask |
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Mar 13 2010, 12:11 AM
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if i just want to get a cleanser for oily skin..
because i already have some toner and refining cream.. which one will be the best?? This post has been edited by chunann: Mar 13 2010, 12:13 AM |
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Mar 13 2010, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(chunann @ Mar 13 2010, 12:11 AM) if i just want to get a cleanser for oily skin.. What's your budget ?which one will be the best?? |
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Mar 13 2010, 12:25 AM
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under rm50??
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Mar 13 2010, 12:28 AM
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You can try sebamed face and body cleanser. AFAIK RM25.
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Mar 13 2010, 12:46 AM
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oo..
why u recommend that one lerr? actually how u all determine which cleanser is suitable for ourself.. as i thought as long as feel clean can dy., |
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Mar 13 2010, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(chunann @ Mar 13 2010, 12:46 AM) oo.. are you very sure ure skin is oily? sometimes you feel ure skin is oily because if the other harsh products being used...hence its overly dry and the skin produces more oil to compensate the lost.... you may wana try neutrogena's cleansers... they have many kinds and i can say this brand is quite reliable to many consumers.why u recommend that one lerr? actually how u all determine which cleanser is suitable for ourself.. as i thought as long as feel clean can dy., |
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Mar 13 2010, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(chunann @ Mar 13 2010, 12:25 AM) under rm50?? Good suggestions by kotmj and kaspersky-fan.I agree that some of the products available in pharmacies can be a little harsh as these products only goal is to get rid as much oil on your face as possible...that's not necessarily a good thing. I personally would recommend the Eucerin DermoPURIFYER Cleanser..price is under RM50 and Eucerin products can be a match for some of the higher end stuff. Right now I am using the Shiseido Men Cleansing Foam, it's expensive but it works well for me. I tried quite a few products (cheap and expensive) before finding Shiseido. But the bottom line is when choosing cleansers and face care products its all down to trial and error because everyone's skin is different. What may work for me may not work for you. |
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Mar 13 2010, 05:14 PM
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thanks for every recommend,
but like you say trial and error can you explain more.. and usually when u all buy a cleanse what will you all consider about?? cause my skin is oily(by my beautician aunt) and quite lots of pimper.. |
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Mar 13 2010, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(chunann @ Mar 13 2010, 05:14 PM) thanks for every recommend, Trial and error means I buy a product and use for about 3 months and see if it is good for my skin. Reading reviews can help to a certain extent but as everyone's skin is unique it all comes down to actually using the product. but like you say trial and error can you explain more.. and usually when u all buy a cleanse what will you all consider about?? cause my skin is oily(by my beautician aunt) and quite lots of pimper.. Nowadays when I buy a cleanser I always look at the ingredients list at the back. I try to avoid ingredients like sodium laureth sulfate, alcohol and oils. I also consider how much cleanser it would take to wash my whole face and neck...the lesser the better as the product lasts longer. My current Shiseido Men Cleansing Foam costs RM95 for a 125ml tube but I only need a very small amount to wash my face...so 125ml will last quite some time. |
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Mar 16 2010, 01:11 AM
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hmm guys, how bout skII & estee lauder for cleanser and toner compare to those products?
and if my skin is naturally slightly dark, should i consider any whitening product to make my skin a lil fairer? my pimples are getting worse lately too, any recommendation? thanks in advance =) |
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Mar 16 2010, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(liangyew89 @ Mar 16 2010, 01:11 AM) hmm guys, how bout skII & estee lauder for cleanser and toner compare to those products? those products are catered for female users, i suppose guys could use them as well but it's probably better to stick with products made for men.and if my skin is naturally slightly dark, should i consider any whitening product to make my skin a lil fairer? my pimples are getting worse lately too, any recommendation? thanks in advance =) as for skin tone, it's entirely up to you. some people prefer looking fair while others like a tan. |
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Mar 16 2010, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(liangyew89 @ Mar 16 2010, 01:11 AM) hmm guys, how bout skII & estee lauder for cleanser and toner compare to those products? Contrary to what the other poster said, there is no problem for guys using women skin care products. Most of the time all the men skin care products are just repackaged women products but they usually charge higher prices for the men products. Some companies do try to have some variation when it comes to men products in terms of packaging, marketing and scent even though the formula is essentially the same. Clinique is the worse as there is no difference whatsoever in the scent, formulation or even texture between their men and women lines. I may sound like a hypocrite but I love the Shiseido Men products as they are practical, simple and lasts a long time. I have not used SKII or Estee Lauder products before so I can't comment. Maybe other members can help out. Just remember that it's best to use what works for you. and if my skin is naturally slightly dark, should i consider any whitening product to make my skin a lil fairer? my pimples are getting worse lately too, any recommendation? thanks in advance =) When buying lightening products always look at the ingredients on the back rather than the marketing in front. Once u know what they put inside go on google and research on the ingredients to know what really works. I don't use lightening products but if i'm not mistaken glycolic acid (AHA) does help in skin lightening. There can be many factors causing your pimples to get worse. If it's a matter of a few here and there then don't sweat, just get a cheap benzoyl peroxide gel and within a week or so all should be good. A lot of ppl panic and start buying all the expensive anti acne skincare and end up just making things worse. Sometimes a change in skin care products can lead to breakouts too. this is fairly normal and the breakouts should start to recede within a few weeks...if no then the new product (s) is not working for you. |
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Mar 17 2010, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 16 2010, 11:47 AM) Contrary to what the other poster said, there is no problem for guys using women skin care products. Most of the time all the men skin care products are just repackaged women products but they usually charge higher prices for the men products. Some companies do try to have some variation when it comes to men products in terms of packaging, marketing and scent even though the formula is essentially the same. Clinique is the worse as there is no difference whatsoever in the scent, formulation or even texture between their men and women lines. I may sound like a hypocrite but I love the Shiseido Men products as they are practical, simple and lasts a long time. I have not used SKII or Estee Lauder products before so I can't comment. Maybe other members can help out. Just remember that it's best to use what works for you. owhh i see.. thanks jonny for your advice.. the benzoyl peroxide gel refers to oxy5 too? i would like to know whether oxy5 helps in reducing the acne or not.. thanks again jonny im quite clear now.. and Shiseido cleanser works nicely too?When buying lightening products always look at the ingredients on the back rather than the marketing in front. Once u know what they put inside go on google and research on the ingredients to know what really works. I don't use lightening products but if i'm not mistaken glycolic acid (AHA) does help in skin lightening. There can be many factors causing your pimples to get worse. If it's a matter of a few here and there then don't sweat, just get a cheap benzoyl peroxide gel and within a week or so all should be good. A lot of ppl panic and start buying all the expensive anti acne skincare and end up just making things worse. Sometimes a change in skin care products can lead to breakouts too. this is fairly normal and the breakouts should start to recede within a few weeks...if no then the new product (s) is not working for you. |
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Mar 17 2010, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(liangyew @ Mar 17 2010, 08:18 AM) owhh i see.. thanks jonny for your advice.. the benzoyl peroxide gel refers to oxy5 too? i would like to know whether oxy5 helps in reducing the acne or not.. thanks again jonny im quite clear now.. and Shiseido cleanser works nicely too? Yeah Oxy is the same thing. But if u have not used benzoyl peroxide before I recommend u try a 2.5% concentration first and go for higher concentrations if 2.5% is not working. I have used another brand Panoxyl 5% before with good results but the dryness was too much for me. Neutrogena also makes a good benzoyl peroxide cream but I don't know in what concentration. I suggest u try either Neutrogena or Panoxyl with Oxy being the last resort. U might need to ask pharmacist for Panoxyl as I don't see them on shelves anymore. The Shiseido Cleanser is a basic one that does it's job very well. They don't promote it as an anti acne, oil control or lightening face wash. Honestly I find all those claims in a cleanser to be quite false la as most of the time we don't even leave the cleanser on our faces for more than 30 seconds and everything is washed off in the end. So if there are any lightening ingredients for example, it would have little or no effect anyways. The most effective product would usually be creams and serums as they stay on the skin and are more concentrated. |
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Mar 17 2010, 12:40 PM
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Let say olay has 3 ranges which are white radiance, hydration and anti-aging and each range has its own cleanser. That means all the cleansers work the same but are repackaged so that they fit into different ranges?
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Mar 17 2010, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(sakon7 @ Mar 17 2010, 12:40 PM) Let say olay has 3 ranges which are white radiance, hydration and anti-aging and each range has its own cleanser. That means all the cleansers work the same but are repackaged so that they fit into different ranges? It's hard to say as there will some differences in the formulas. Even if they were using the same ingredients, the different percentage of ingredients used can produce different results. Nowadays I usually don't believe all the stuff that written on the front of the cleanser packaging...u know all the anti aging, anti fatigue, oil control and etc. I just look at the ingredients online and research and see if those ingredients are good or bad and if they really work. Also, the higher up the ingredient on the list the higher the concentration of it in the product. Cleansers remain on our face at most maybe a minute so even if they throw in 100 super ingredients it won't be of much effect as u are washing it off anyway...unless u r willing to let the cleanser stay on the face for 5-10mins or more. That's why cleansers are always the cheapest product in any range of skin care and the serums, moisturizers and creams are the most expensive because they stay on the face for long periods of time.This post has been edited by jonny4: Mar 17 2010, 01:10 PM |
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Mar 18 2010, 08:11 PM
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Since I start to use Loreal Pure & Matte series about a month, my face is no longer oily already. No more new acne.
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Mar 20 2010, 01:58 PM
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Anybody know which brand would be better for oily skin prone to acne and pimples since i am going to purchase either clinique or biotherme t-pur for men since i can get a discount on either product.
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Mar 20 2010, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Mar 20 2010, 01:58 PM) Anybody know which brand would be better for oily skin prone to acne and pimples since i am going to purchase either clinique or biotherme t-pur for men since i can get a discount on either product. I have tried both brands and both don't really work. Although the Biotherm T Pur Cleanser is quite good for oily skins but the toner and moisturizers from the same line are not very good tbh as they don't control oil well. I prefer Shiseido Men products even though they are not marketed towards oily acne prone skin. They seem to work quite well for my oily acne prone skin. If acne is your prob save your money and get a specific acne medication rather than those anti acne cleanser toner and moisturizers.This post has been edited by jonny4: Mar 20 2010, 02:08 PM |
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Mar 20 2010, 02:40 PM
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Just to review on Shiseido Men's Moisturizing Emulsion... not to good for me after trying it for a week. It seems to cause breakout to my skin. I can see more small bumps appearing after 1 week using it. I guess my skin only likes the hydrating lotion lol. Gonna go get that tomorrow.
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Mar 20 2010, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Mar 20 2010, 02:40 PM) Just to review on Shiseido Men's Moisturizing Emulsion... not to good for me after trying it for a week. It seems to cause breakout to my skin. I can see more small bumps appearing after 1 week using it. I guess my skin only likes the hydrating lotion lol. Gonna go get that tomorrow. It's the opposite for me as the Moisturizing Emulsion is one of the best moisturizers I have used. I can't wait for my sub standard Clinique M Gel to finish so I can buy the Shiseido Men Moisturizing Emulsion. Skin care products are very individual...it's always a "Your Mileage May Vary" scenario. |
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Mar 20 2010, 11:43 PM
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is the product face from brylcreem good?
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Mar 21 2010, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Mar 20 2010, 11:43 PM) is the product face from brylcreem good? I did use a Brylcreem face wash a few years ago and I found to be overly drying even for my oily skin. |
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Mar 21 2010, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 20 2010, 03:49 PM) It's the opposite for me as the Moisturizing Emulsion is one of the best moisturizers I have used. I can't wait for my sub standard Clinique M Gel to finish so I can buy the Shiseido Men Moisturizing Emulsion. yup, I guess its too rich for my skin... only hydrating lotion works well on me. Went there to get my cleansing foam and asked the SA's advise.... she told me if moisturizing emulsion is rich for me, I shouldn't use total revitalizer for the time being, damn. I find that hydrating lotion during our normal weather is fine. But when I stay in air cond room for long hours, face tends to get tight ... but when i apply moisturizing emulsion, no more tight feeling... just that the next day i see more small bumps appear =_=. Perhaps I shall just use more hydrating lotion instead when in air cond places =)Skin care products are very individual...it's always a "Your Mileage May Vary" scenario. |
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Mar 21 2010, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Mar 21 2010, 05:43 PM) yup, I guess its too rich for my skin... only hydrating lotion works well on me. Went there to get my cleansing foam and asked the SA's advise.... she told me if moisturizing emulsion is rich for me, I shouldn't use total revitalizer for the time being, damn. I find that hydrating lotion during our normal weather is fine. But when I stay in air cond room for long hours, face tends to get tight ... but when i apply moisturizing emulsion, no more tight feeling... just that the next day i see more small bumps appear =_=. Perhaps I shall just use more hydrating lotion instead when in air cond places =) Your skin type does sound complicated man haha. Wah bought full size cleansing foam..The hydrating lotion is still one of the best products I have ever bought and I have not experienced any tightness when I am in air cond rooms for long hours. Try applying some aloe vera gel after the hydrating lotion. Currently I am using Fruit of The Earth Aloe Vera Gel after hydrating lotion in the day. The aloe gel doesn't moisturize as good as the hydrating lotion but it forms a barrier so the hydrating effects of the lotion stays for longer. Plus the aloe gel softens, soothes my skin and controls oil to a certain degree. My fren recommended I stop using all the expensive moisturizers and just use pure aloe gel as a day n night moisturizer. I tried it for a few days but it din work for my skin as the aloe gel ain't moisturizing enough. |
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Mar 22 2010, 03:34 AM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 21 2010, 07:20 PM) Your skin type does sound complicated man haha. Wah bought full size cleansing foam.. I have no idea, most SA or dermatologist classed my skin as oily combination so perhaps no heavy moisturizers on my face. I've tried quite a number of moisturizers, I could say most of them would clog my pores even though it says non-comedogenic. So the moment I saw the Shiseido's men hydrating lotion texture, I would be rest assured this one would be much lighter than other types of cream or gel moisturizer. So yep.. would stick with hydrating lotion and cleansing foam. I think the moisturizing emulsion... I would try it once in a blue moon to see if its still that awful on my skin. The hydrating lotion is still one of the best products I have ever bought and I have not experienced any tightness when I am in air cond rooms for long hours. Try applying some aloe vera gel after the hydrating lotion. Currently I am using Fruit of The Earth Aloe Vera Gel after hydrating lotion in the day. The aloe gel doesn't moisturize as good as the hydrating lotion but it forms a barrier so the hydrating effects of the lotion stays for longer. Plus the aloe gel softens, soothes my skin and controls oil to a certain degree. My fren recommended I stop using all the expensive moisturizers and just use pure aloe gel as a day n night moisturizer. I tried it for a few days but it din work for my skin as the aloe gel ain't moisturizing enough. Hrm, nice suggestion you've got there but I guess for now I'd just stick to the two. Need to stabilize my face first... shouldn't change/add products when pimples start attacking lol. I did some googling about the aloe vera gel, it seems that there are some additional toxins/additives that makes the gel not as moisturizing as the real aloe vera gel. Perhaps I should just try the real aloe vera gel once the breakout stops to hasten the dark spots to fade away =P .... now... where do I get the plant? lol. Other readers recommended Aubrey Organics Aloe, which doesnt have those nasty stuff in fruit of the earth. Wondering if its available here. Edit: I think I've finally realize what is breaking me out, dimethicone or silicones!!! (also found in shiseido's moisturizing emulsion) ... hydrating lotion doesn't have it, and its working well with my skin... now at least I get to know which moisturizer will work for me by just reading the ingredient list This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: Mar 25 2010, 03:28 PM |
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Mar 25 2010, 02:48 PM
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so jonny, have you gotten your Shiseido Moisturizing Emulsion yet? so far i'd read some reviwes about it but mostly from people in the US. it's probably not suitable for their weather as it was designed with asian weather in mind i think. i'm currently using something from origins, it's pretty decent but the price/ml is a real killer, like 15ml for rm50. any suggestions on what i should get next? need something light but not too light, oil control is a plus too.
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Mar 25 2010, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(rockets @ Mar 25 2010, 02:48 PM) so jonny, have you gotten your Shiseido Moisturizing Emulsion yet? so far i'd read some reviwes about it but mostly from people in the US. it's probably not suitable for their weather as it was designed with asian weather in mind i think. i'm currently using something from origins, it's pretty decent but the price/ml is a real killer, like 15ml for rm50. any suggestions on what i should get next? need something light but not too light, oil control is a plus too. I bought the Moisturizing Emulsion last weekend and overall it's good. I really like the texture as it is watery and very easy to massage into skin. Even though watery it moisturizes my face well with no adverse reactions like redness or breakouts. But I must admit that the moisturizing emulsion won't fare very well as a day time moisturizer for our weather. I bought it for use at night so oil/shine control is not important for me...actually i think oil/shine control in the night is not needed at all...might even clog pores. The moist emulsion cost me RM145 for 100ml and I am very satisfied with it tbh. For daytime I use the Shiseido Men Hydrating Lotion and is one of the best moisturizers I have used so far. The amount i pump out is roughly smaller than the a panadol tablet...so 100ml going to last a long time hehe. I have used quite a few light moisturizers that promise oil control but none really work more than a few hours la in our msian weather. Clarins Shine Free Gel is quite good and offers the best oil control la among the ones I have tried but it is pricey la, RM147 for 50ml...I found the scent a bit too strong. Clinique Oil Control Hydrator is good too but leaves a white powdery marks if u don't massage in properly.Price is RM140 for 50ml. Something cheaper is Clinique M Gel but I found it too basic for the price so that's why I changed to Shiseido...RM140 for 100ml. Kiehl's has 2 oil control moisturizers Blue Herbal Moisturizer and Rare Earth Oil Control Lotion. I recently got a sample of the Blue Herbal Moisturizer and it is quite decent in terms of oil control but doesn't moisturize very well...price is quite good...RM90 for 100ml...but it is more for oily acne prone skins. Biotherm Homme T Pur mattifying moisturizer is just decent la and tbh doesn't control oil very well. Shiseido Men makes an Anti Shine Refresher and based on a few uses from a 2ml sample, it's one of the best but doesn't moisturize and is really expensive...RM135 for 30ml. Avene makes a mattifying light moisturizer but I have not tried it before...price is within RM50-RM100 for 40-50ml. I might try avene. I have tried neutrogena oil free moist, garnier men and vichy...none really work and they just give this silky smooth feeling initially which makes u think oil is controlled but it isn't and within a few hours it's back to normal. Keep in mind that almost all these oil control moisturizers contain high amount of alcohol so if u have any previous bad experiences with alcohol in skin care products u might want to think twice about trying them. Like I said earlier nothing really controls oil in our weather so I resort to the cheaper alternative...Gatsby oil Clear Sheet LOL..one sheet every 3-4 hours keeps me shine free. This post has been edited by jonny4: Mar 25 2010, 05:17 PM |
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Mar 25 2010, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 25 2010, 05:00 PM) I bought the Moisturizing Emulsion last weekend and overall it's good. I really like the texture as it is watery and very easy to massage into skin. Even though watery it moisturizes my face well with no adverse reactions like redness or breakouts. But I must admit that the moisturizing emulsion won't fare very well as a day time moisturizer for our weather. I bought it for use at night so oil/shine control is not important for me...actually i think oil/shine control in the night is not needed at all...might even clog pores. The moist emulsion cost me RM145 for 100ml and I am very satisfied with it tbh. For daytime I use the Shiseido Men Hydrating Lotion and is one of the best moisturizers I have used so far. The amount i pump out is roughly smaller than the a panadol tablet...so 100ml going to last a long time hehe. Hey jonny4, you've got any moisturizer recommendation for silicone free ingredients? I figured out all the products I've tested has silicone and it clogs my pores. Only Shiseido's hydrating lotion worked wonders.I have used quite a few light moisturizers that promise oil control but none really work more than a few hours la in our msian weather. Clarins Shine Free Gel is quite good and offers the best oil control la among the ones I have tried but it is pricey la, RM147 for 50ml...I found the scent a bit too strong. Clinique Oil Control Hydrator is good too but leaves a white powdery marks if u don't massage in properly.Price is RM140 for 50ml. Something cheaper is Clinique M Gel but I found it too basic for the price so that's why I changed to Shiseido...RM140 for 100ml. Kiehl's has 2 oil control moisturizers Blue Herbal Moisturizer and Rare Earth Oil Control Lotion. I recently got a sample of the Blue Herbal Moisturizer and it is quite decent in terms of oil control but doesn't moisturize very well...price is quite good...RM90 for 100ml...but it is more for oily acne prone skins. Biotherm Homme T Pur mattifying moisturizer is just decent la and tbh doesn't control oil very well. Shiseido Men makes an Anti Shine Refresher and based on a few uses from a 2ml sample, it's one of the best but doesn't moisturize and is really expensive...RM135 for 30ml. Avene makes a mattifying light moisturizer but I have not tried it before...price is within RM50-RM100 for 40-50ml. I might try avene. I have tried neutrogena oil free moist, garnier men and vichy...none really work and they just give this silky smooth feeling initially which makes u think oil is controlled but it isn't and within a few hours it's back to normal. Keep in mind that almost all these oil control moisturizers contain high amount of alcohol so if u have any previous bad experiences with alcohol in skin care products u might want to think twice about trying them. Like I said earlier nothing really controls oil in our weather so I resort to the cheaper alternative...Gatsby oil Clear Sheet LOL..one sheet every 3-4 hours keeps me shine free. |
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Mar 25 2010, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Mar 25 2010, 05:44 PM) Hey jonny4, you've got any moisturizer recommendation for silicone free ingredients? I figured out all the products I've tested has silicone and it clogs my pores. Only Shiseido's hydrating lotion worked wonders. I can't think of any at the moment haha. Almost all the moisturizers i have used over the years contain silicone. Fruit of The Earth Aloe Gel doesn't contain silicones but I don't really consider it a good moisturizer. The Hydrating Lotion is really a 5 star product. |
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Mar 25 2010, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 25 2010, 06:04 PM) I can't think of any at the moment haha. Almost all the moisturizers i have used over the years contain silicone. Fruit of The Earth Aloe Gel doesn't contain silicones but I don't really consider it a good moisturizer. yes I totally agree with you, it can be even used to sooth/prevent breakouts =DThe Hydrating Lotion is really a 5 star product. Btw few days back, Dermalogica came to our campus for some skin workshop, trying to introduce their new products for teens, Clean Start. You can checkout their products here --> http://www.cleanstart.my/ In the workshop, apart from being educated of skin care procedures, they also let us try their new products. I would say their products are very drying for my skin after the trial session. Their scrub, which uses silicone exfoliators are really mediocre. I would feel it clogs more pores more than exfoliating lol. Overall didn't recommend that line to teens, since they are towards oil controlling function assuming teens skin are usually active and oily. Pricewise, its not worth it either. Just want to advice anyone interested to try Clean Start to stay away. I only used it one time, all range, from their cleanser to toner to moisturizer, only after 2 hours, it made my skin so dry and uncomfortable that I had to wash it off. |
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Mar 25 2010, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Mar 25 2010, 06:14 PM) yes I totally agree with you, it can be even used to sooth/prevent breakouts =D Clean Start sounds like a Clinique 3 step clone haha. Overly drying products is really not the way to go for oily skin. That's why I stopped using toner/astringents in my daily routine. Btw few days back, Dermalogica came to our campus for some skin workshop, trying to introduce their new products for teens, Clean Start. You can checkout their products here --> http://www.cleanstart.my/ In the workshop, apart from being educated of skin care procedures, they also let us try their new products. I would say their products are very drying for my skin after the trial session. Their scrub, which uses silicone exfoliators are really mediocre. I would feel it clogs more pores more than exfoliating lol. Overall didn't recommend that line to teens, since they are towards oil controlling function assuming teens skin are usually active and oily. Pricewise, its not worth it either. Just want to advice anyone interested to try Clean Start to stay away. I only used it one time, all range, from their cleanser to toner to moisturizer, only after 2 hours, it made my skin so dry and uncomfortable that I had to wash it off. What are silicone exfoliators ? those scrubbing particles made of polyethylene ? |
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Mar 25 2010, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 25 2010, 06:24 PM) Clean Start sounds like a Clinique 3 step clone haha. Overly drying products is really not the way to go for oily skin. That's why I stopped using toner/astringents in my daily routine. yup similar to those, but those particles were kinda tiny... my only concern is it might get stuck in the pores while scrubbing. Would definitely prefer their skin prep scrub... its a very good scrub in my opinion, it smoothen my skin while hydrating it, doesn't feel drying after scrubbingWhat are silicone exfoliators ? those scrubbing particles made of polyethylene ? |
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Mar 25 2010, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Mar 25 2010, 07:03 PM) yup similar to those, but those particles were kinda tiny... my only concern is it might get stuck in the pores while scrubbing. Would definitely prefer their skin prep scrub... its a very good scrub in my opinion, it smoothen my skin while hydrating it, doesn't feel drying after scrubbing Don't worry those scrub particles won't clog your pores instead those particles will unclog pores...the smaller the particles the better as it irritates the skin less. |
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Mar 26 2010, 11:13 AM
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The Shiseido Hydrating Lotion looks like liquid, how do you apply something like that to your face? I'm probably gonna try this one for a change(been using cream/gel products mostly), deos it come in different sizes or just 150ml?
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Mar 26 2010, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(rockets @ Mar 26 2010, 11:13 AM) The Shiseido Hydrating Lotion looks like liquid, how do you apply something like that to your face? I'm probably gonna try this one for a change(been using cream/gel products mostly), deos it come in different sizes or just 150ml? The Hydrating Lotion is actually a hydrating toner but with alcohol. I got oily skin so the amount of moisturization is sufficient for me and I only use it in the daytime. The bottle comes with a drip type nozzle so a few drops onto my palm (a 5 sen size coin puddle) is more than enough to cover my face and neck. The moist emulsion is basically a thicker heavier version of the hydrating lotion. It only comes in 150ml but right now Shiseido does have trial packs which come with 20/30ml hydrating lotion, moisturizing emulsion, cleansing foam and 15ml total revitalizer...all for RM99. |
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Mar 26 2010, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 26 2010, 12:14 PM) The Hydrating Lotion is actually a hydrating toner but with alcohol. I got oily skin so the amount of moisturization is sufficient for me and I only use it in the daytime. The bottle comes with a drip type nozzle so a few drops onto my palm (a 5 sen size coin puddle) is more than enough to cover my face and neck. The moist emulsion is basically a thicker heavier version of the hydrating lotion. It only comes in 150ml but right now Shiseido does have trial packs which come with 20/30ml hydrating lotion, moisturizing emulsion, cleansing foam and 15ml total revitalizer...all for RM99. nice, gonna go for the trail pack. |
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Mar 26 2010, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(rockets @ Mar 26 2010, 12:59 PM) nice, gonna go for the trail pack. If u do get the Shiseido Men products don't follow the application instructions that tell u to "apply generously" or "use 2 pumps". I followed their instructions initially and it was really way too much for me. Just apply accordingly to your skin's needs should be fine already. |
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Mar 27 2010, 06:30 AM
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Here's a good regimen for the face both guys and girls especially if you suffer from oily skin prone to acne.
Before bed, wash face with a soap for sensitive skin such as dove soap. Dry your face, then apply Magnesium Hydroxide over the entire face. Magnesium Hydroxide is commonly called "Milk of Magnesia" and can be bought over the counter at any pharmacy. Its completely safe.  It absorb the oil and dirt from your skin, leaves it soft and opens up your pores much better to relieve pimples. Repeat this every night before you go to bed, it won't cure your acne but it will help prevent breakouts.  |
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Mar 27 2010, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(xpertboy @ Mar 27 2010, 06:30 AM) Here's a good regimen for the face both guys and girls especially if you suffer from oily skin prone to acne. I know that Milk of Magnesia is used by many makeup artists to prep the skin up for makeup. I hear it works very well to control facial oil because it basically closes up the pores so no oil can seep out. I wanted to try it but I have i have also read that many people have complained that they had bad breakouts caused by the pores being clogged with MoM and the alkali nature of MoM. Before bed, wash face with a soap for sensitive skin such as dove soap. Dry your face, then apply Magnesium Hydroxide over the entire face. Magnesium Hydroxide is commonly called "Milk of Magnesia" and can be bought over the counter at any pharmacy. Its completely safe. It absorb the oil and dirt from your skin, leaves it soft and opens up your pores much better to relieve pimples. Repeat this every night before you go to bed, it won't cure your acne but it will help prevent breakouts. So please don't claim using MoM is completely safe because some guys here will just follow blindly and might get bad results on their faces. Everyone's mileage always varies |
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Mar 27 2010, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(rockets @ Mar 26 2010, 12:59 PM) nice, gonna go for the trail pack. the trial pack doesnt come with hydrating lotion, just ask them to give u the samples lol... once u buy something from them, they are very generous with samples... i got two small bottles of hydrating lotion samples heheh...Added on March 27, 2010, 10:12 am QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 25 2010, 08:16 PM) Don't worry those scrub particles won't clog your pores instead those particles will unclog pores...the smaller the particles the better as it irritates the skin less. hmm, i remember looking at it, it looks so small and tiny like crystals... you know the garnier moisturiser when u apply and it dries and from those small crystals? exactly similar thing, but its used as a scrub particle... another thing about this scrub is that it also works as a mask... lol 2 in 1 productThis post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: Mar 27 2010, 10:12 AM |
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Mar 27 2010, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Mar 27 2010, 10:05 AM) hmm, i remember looking at it, it looks so small and tiny like crystals... you know the garnier moisturiser when u apply and it dries and from those small crystals? exactly similar thing, but its used as a scrub particle... another thing about this scrub is that it also works as a mask... lol 2 in 1 product Well a scrub only stays on the skin a few minutes at most so I dun see the risk of the pores getting clogged. Plus how fine can the scrub particles get ? too fine and it serves no purpose already.This post has been edited by jonny4: Mar 27 2010, 11:04 AM |
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Mar 27 2010, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 27 2010, 10:58 AM) Well a scrub only stays on the skin a few minutes at most so I dun see the risk of the pores getting clogged. Plus how fine can the scrub particles get ? too fine and it serves no purpose already. thats the thing, i find it to be a lil too fine... honestly their teen range is really for oily skin, not combinational oily... hehe its okay, already found my product, Shiseido Men FTW! |
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Mar 27 2010, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Mar 27 2010, 04:08 PM) thats the thing, i find it to be a lil too fine... honestly their teen range is really for oily skin, not combinational oily... hehe its okay, already found my product, Shiseido Men FTW! How is the total revitalizer ? im considering whether or not to get it... |
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Mar 27 2010, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 27 2010, 04:45 PM) How is the total revitalizer ? im considering whether or not to get it... I dont dare to try lol... even the SA recommend me not to try after i told her I get lots of oil seed using moisturizing emulsion just at night for 1 week. The week after that, breakout starts to occur at some part of my face... whoa.. I guess I'm in phobia to try any rich moisturizer anymore. In fact the moisturizing emulsion is for dry skin... so perhaps I understand why I'm getting such bad effect on my face.Edit: total revitalizer is rm200++... for 50ml.... u really dont mind? its really pricey... This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: Mar 27 2010, 04:56 PM |
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Mar 27 2010, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Mar 27 2010, 04:55 PM) I dont dare to try lol... even the SA recommend me not to try after i told her I get lots of oil seed using moisturizing emulsion just at night for 1 week. The week after that, breakout starts to occur at some part of my face... whoa.. I guess I'm in phobia to try any rich moisturizer anymore. In fact the moisturizing emulsion is for dry skin... so perhaps I understand why I'm getting such bad effect on my face. I was told by the SA the moist emulsion is for all skin types. I do agree as I been using it for about a month and it has improved my skin...no breakouts or any side effects even though my skin is oily. Probably at your age u don't need moisturizers just yet...it's the opposite for me as I'm almost reaching 30. The total revitalizer has good anti aging and antioxidant properties so RM250 for 50ml is alright for me.Edit: total revitalizer is rm200++... for 50ml.... u really dont mind? its really pricey... |
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Mar 27 2010, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 27 2010, 05:14 PM) I was told by the SA the moist emulsion is for all skin types. I do agree as I been using it for about a month and it has improved my skin...no breakouts or any side effects even though my skin is oily. Probably at your age u don't need moisturizers just yet...it's the opposite for me as I'm almost reaching 30. The total revitalizer has good anti aging and antioxidant properties so RM250 for 50ml is alright for me. Perhaps its time for you to get the sample before buying... if i know 2/3 of the products doesn't work on me, I would have just bought the cleanser straight away rather than the trial kit. Just a question, if that particular moisturiser clogs ure skin when u r in ure mid 20's, will they do the same thing when you are mid 30's? Quite curious about this. |
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