What I advice you guys is don't spend immediately on high range skin care product. Go to any drugstore and get some cheap range skin care first (range from rm5-20++ perhaps). Heck if it works well, continue using it and spend the remaining cash on electronic gadgets =P

Don't get the whole set, try one by one, esp the cleanser... its one of the main things to judge the product. However, if you are in luck to stumble upon travel packs in mini sizes, those are very good trial sets because its in small amount and cheap to try. Get them to test. But of course try it one product at a time. Eg try the cleanser first... if everything goes well for 1-2 weeks, add in toner...then repeat again for moisturizer.

Special note for moisturizers:
Usually in pharmacies you will see them having testers... those are good chance to test them... not on your face, but on ure hands. Put a bit on your hands and rub to see if you are allergic to it, eg any signs of itchiness, redness or burning sensation...if they do occur, throw it aside... its not compatible with your skin! Ive tried those so called good brands of loreal, nivea, and garnier... but they are usually either greasy, leaving some crystal residue(which is very bad) or worst...causes itchiness on my skin(nivea!). If after one week using your newly bought moisturiser causes you to get more small white spots, stop using it immediately, those are most likely comedones, clogged pores that would eventually turn to pimples.

Choosing the right product for your skin condition:
If you are very sure of your skin type being oily, use those oily range products. If you are unsure, choose the basic skin care range, or combination skin type. If you have no idea at all, I advice you guys trying the mildest range first, that is the sensitive range. Why? Its better to treat your skin with much gentle than to punish it directly with harsh chemicals. You guys would be surprise with what shit they add in your cleansers toners and moisturisers lol.

TIPS: Choosing product is often annoying, as you are unsure with what to go for, but one rule of thumb is choose products with much less ingredients. Reason is, the more ingredients, the more probability that ingredient might be incompatible with your skin. Give the brand SIMPLE or CETAPHIL a try. Their list of ingredients are much less than what you find in loreal crap for men, nivea nonsense for men etc. You'll be surprised that such less ingredient products would work much better than the latter.

It doesnt matter if you are using mens or womens range. They are all the same: skin care products. But one thing in mind is, skin care is a very subjective thing to individuals. One product might work for you but might not work for others. Don't be stubburn to change if it doesnt work on you, because the longer you use, the more damage it brings to your skin.

Btw, I'm currently using simple refreshing wash gel. No complains so far =)

This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: Feb 21 2010, 03:23 PM

Not that I'm bias, but I never liked Loreal products...any kind that is, from loreal men to garnier to biotherm and to lancome.... somehow their products just doesnt suit me... so... i've made a very simple rule for myself, that is to ban all loreal division products lol... im too lazy to try it already

I've only recently started testing out regular drugstore skincare..because i lost confidence with higher price skin care stuff ever since discovering cetaphil and simple products.

I'm still on my trial stage lol. So far so good, but I do have intentions to try out Shiseido men since so many ppl gave good review about it, including you lol. How do you like the cleansing foam? Do update us on your progress with Shiseido products.

Btw guys, if you guys prefer to shop without the annoyance of sales assistance, try visiting http://www.strawberrynet.com/ to purchase your skin care stuff. Infact its cheaper to purchase there(not all brands, but mostly are) and you get free shipping. Save the hassle to go to those counters and hear SAs crapping.

As for you, jonny4... do checkup here: http://oth.strawberrynet.com/mens-fragranc...ncare/shiseido/ =P, have fun!

Its nice that you are enjoying your purchase. When you were there, they never offer any skin kit or travel kit? If such packs were available, it would be good to test them out rather than buying individually. I saw the product listing in william martins that they have this essential skin kit for rm120, consisting of cleanser(30ml), hydrating or toning lotion(30ml) and total revitalizer(15ml). Its a good trial kit I guess, but I need to call to ensure the availability.

damn... strawberynet just sent me another "we miss you" mail...this time with 13% discount... am started to think if i should test out shiseido men.. since i got the discount, hows ure progress so far jonny?

I have combination skin, so I hope it works out fine for me. But anyway I think I've decided to pop by a nearby Shiseido counter to purchase the trial set and at the same time, get some of their consultations/opinions on their product and of course some samples as well. It seems that the strawberrynet we miss you discount, if u wait even longer it would go up to 25% discount... so at this period of time, while I try the trial kit and it goes well, I would just get it off from strawberrynet the retail size once they send another of their we miss you email lol. As for the trial kit, I'm quite sure it would be 30ml cleanser, 30 ml hydrating/toning(you may choose) lotion and 15ml total revitalizer. I have checked Shiseido Men's Japan website(more info) and it seems that hydrating lotion is the most lightweighted moisturiser.

Ah, then I'll try the one with hydrating lotion, thanks for your opinion =). Perhaps in Asia it is more hot and humid, esp here and Singapore. Hence, the people living in such places usually have skin producing more oil due to heat especially... which specifically allow them to market another lotion but without moisturizing properties. Oh well its just another marketing scheme

Woo, finally got my Shiseido men essential kit pack. It consists of 30ml cleansing foam + 30ml moisturizing emulsion + 15ml total revitalizer, no longer with 30ml hydrating/toning lotion pack. Haven't try the foaming cleanser yet, but the moisturizing emulsion seems a bit too greasy for my liking, unless I use it in an air conditioned room. Got mine from Isetan Gardens. The SA let me test on hydrating and toning lotion. The toning lotion seems very cooling but after sometime I feel my skin is a bit more dry compared to the area using hydrating lotion. She intended to give me some toning lotion sample to try but it was out, so she gave me hydrating lotion instead... which I think I would prefer more ;P. The area where hydrating lotion was used, was soft and supple...something that I never really get before from many moisturizers unless living a greasy feeling(or if i use a mask)... this lotion doesn't seem to do so! I even asked for the scrub to try on. Would review again once have tried all the Shiseido products.

Ever tried those peel off mask? There are a few in guardian/watsons... I've personally not tried such before but from my cousin's feedback it seems effective than those nose peel thing.

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Added on February 28, 2010, 11:22 pmYea I think the SA gave me too much of it too, around 10cent just on my hand lol... So yeah, would take your advice and adjust according to my needs. I did visit Clinique before for consultation and she was kind enough to give me some M Gel sample. But after 1-2 days trying it, I start to get the itchiness sensation, so I banned all Clinique stuff lol. So to answer your question, nope never used Clinique men face scrub.

However I have indeed used Dermalogica's skin prep scrub. It uses corn granules to do the scrubbing. I have to say its nice but the price is a little on the higher side. Upon finding other alternatives, I came across skin food's black sugar wash off mask (click here), which works as exfoliator and mask (rm 40+ for 100ml...great value).... going to try that once my current scrub finishes. I just got myself skin food's cucumber hydrating mask(rm 33 for 100ml) as my Dermalogica's skin hydrating mask is about to finish. If you read the ingredients label of this cucumber mask... the 3rd ingredient is already cucumber extract.. which indirectly means the quantity of cucumber extract is high and thus more natural compared to most other brands where cucumber extract etc is among the bottom of the ingredients list. In common practice, the ingredients with the highest quantity is listed first, and of course with descending order.

Have not try the cucumber mask yet, when I do will review it =)

This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: Feb 28 2010, 11:22 PM

Well... but the Shiseido hydrating lotion too has high alcohol content =P ...


Well for gentle scrub, you may want to try their rice mask.... it seems to be their best selling product

This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: Mar 1 2010, 12:09 AM

Lets hope my skin would tolerate it too ~_~

if you have been using it and wana buy their products, you can get it via http://oth.strawberrynet.com/mens-fragranc...are/jack-black/

they deliver free to msia

if you are looking forward to test their product...then its kinda risky buying straight away... hope this helps

Np

Yeah... about Shiseido products... I have to say its the best men's line I've ever tried.


cleanser:
Best stuff I've ever used. It foams so well and after washing it, non drying at all. Face doesn't feel tight. Its among the best cleansing foam I've used. I've used biotherm's high recharge cleansing foam and it foams up very well too, but it causes some tight sensation to face several minutes after washing. When used for weeks, my face starts to get even oilier. Lets hope Shiseido's cleansing foam won't cause such problem =)


scrub:
I don't think I enjoyed it. The scrubbing beads were too fine for me and after scrubbing, I feel that my face had gone a little red. I guess my face never liked ultra fine beads. Prefer my good old dermalogica scrub.


hydrating lotion:
This is it! The best lightweight moisturizer I've ever found for my skin! Upon applying, can feel that my skin is supple and I just tested it today, applied from 2pm till now (12am)...very minimal oil produced compared to many other products I've tried. Definitely will repurchase. The only concern is that its too watery...almost like water... very low viscosity. Hence, its a little more difficult to apply it, have to slowly apply it part by part to my face, instead of squeezing some to my palm, rub it warm and massage to my face. Any better idea to apply it?


moisturizing emulsion:
After adjusting the amount accordingly, it works perfectly as well. Just need around 5cents or less to cover my whole face. This stuff really smoothen my skin even for the first time using it. I suppose it is more suitable making this as the night time moisturizer


total revitalizer: haven't try, will update later once tried =p

This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: Mar 4 2010, 12:08 AM

Hmm, after almost 2 weeks testing hydrating lotion... I can say its really good. At first, I was having some slight breakout here and there, but I guess its just the grace period of changing skincare products after jonny4 told me to continue testing it on my first week of breakout. I can say he's indeed right haha. The breakout occured and a few days ago, I can feel my left face is about to have one big breakout...can feel the bump.. but I had a crazy idea to even add more hydrating lotion to that area. By the 2nd day, the swelling feeling has gone and it didnt breakout. Then I started applying more hydrating lotion on my breakout spots. This magic lotion really soothes it and within days they have subsided... really good stuff!

I wanted to try toning lotion as I enjoyed the cooling effect it gives but it seems that every Shiseido counter in MidValley does not have the stock. The SA at Jusco told me the HQ has never been replenishing the toning lotion sample since last year but the retail packaging is still selling strong, real odd. Anyway.. going to get this hydrating lotion soon! Waiting for Isetan's sale... hehe can collect points n get voucher.

Tried hunting for jonny4's suggestion on lab series clay mask... the SA at Metrojaya told me many customers complained the mask was too dry and they have discontinued bringing them in 0.o.... Looks like I need to continue searching

Well in my opinion it would be really good if they add the cooling properties in hydrating lotion too...but I'm glad I found this lotion nevertheless =)

Nah don't need to be disappointed. You can still order your clay mask off strawberrynet.com =p at here: http://us.strawberrynet.com/mens-fragrance...kincare/aramis/

Ah i see, perhaps the main reason for hydrating lotion to stay as it is now.

I just got back from Guardian, and got this mask my cousin recommended me: Montagne Jeunesse for men peel off deep pore cleansing masque...will try it later lol... first time i see those individually packed mask for men, rm6 per pack.

are you very sure ure skin is oily? sometimes you feel ure skin is oily because if the other harsh products being used...hence its overly dry and the skin produces more oil to compensate the lost.... you may wana try neutrogena's cleansers... they have many kinds and i can say this brand is quite reliable to many consumers.

Just to review on Shiseido Men's Moisturizing Emulsion... not to good for me after trying it for a week. It seems to cause breakout to my skin. I can see more small bumps appearing after 1 week using it. I guess my skin only likes the hydrating lotion lol. Gonna go get that tomorrow.

yup, I guess its too rich for my skin... only hydrating lotion works well on me. Went there to get my cleansing foam and asked the SA's advise.... she told me if moisturizing emulsion is rich for me, I shouldn't use total revitalizer for the time being, damn. I find that hydrating lotion during our normal weather is fine. But when I stay in air cond room for long hours, face tends to get tight ... but when i apply moisturizing emulsion, no more tight feeling... just that the next day i see more small bumps appear =_=. Perhaps I shall just use more hydrating lotion instead when in air cond places =)