I've been using Lab Series Oil Control Solution for about 2 weeks now and so far so good. It really helps control my acne and facial oil. Only drawback is the price. For RM80 i get 100ml only. Previously i was using Clinique Clarifying Lotion #3...it's 200ml for RM78. Much more value than Lab Series but irritates my skin and does not really help in controlling acne.

Currently using Clinique Cleanser for oily/combination skin and Clinique Dramatically Different Moisturizing Gel. Both combined with the Lab Series oil Control Solution as a toner.

Clinique Cleanser - Contains menthol and feels very refreshing after each wash but i've read that menthol is a skin irritant. Price is RM78 for 200ml. Planning to switch to Lab Series Oil Control Face Wash (RM90 for 125ml) once i finish the Clinique Cleanser.

Clinique Dramatically Different Moisturizing Gel - One of the best out there for oily skin. Absorbs really fast and doesn't leave the skin shiny...in a way it even helps minimize shine. RM87 (50ml), RM150 (125ml).

BTW, nothing wrong with using women's facial care products as I feel most of the men's stuff is just the same women's formula with more masculine packaging. Some of the men's facial products are even more expensive. For instance Clinique Skin Supplies For Men facial wash is RM78 for 150ml meanwhile the same women's facial wash is RM78 for 200ml. Same price but less content for the men. A Clinique consultant told me that the men's line is basically the same product as the women's line but repackaged so that men won't feel shy to buy.

I've used both Clinique women and men lines before and i can honestly tell u guys that it's the same thing. So if u guys plan to buy Clinique Men's products, try to compare prices with the women's line to see which one has more value for money. Don't let marketing, packaging and the Clinique Sales Assistant next to u influence your decision.

Nope it's not special for girls. I've been using Clinique Women's facial products for about 8 months now and i don't think i've lost any of my masculinity It's all just marketing IMO.

Nothing stopping you from using generic malaysian made stuff. Most important is the ingredients they use and whether or not those ingredients are good/not good for your skin.

This post has been edited by jonny4: Sep 19 2009, 02:10 PM

Smoother yes but the Clinique Clarifying Lotion (toner) caused me to break out. For the 1st 2-3 months it was good after that the toner irritated my skin too much. But that time had about 100ml left so didn't want to waste it so continued using until 2 weeks ago i couldn't tahan anymore so went out and got Lab Series Oil Control Solution instead. Atm, my skin much better but need to wait 2-3 months to actually know whether Lab Series good or not.

As mentioned by Muhas86, William Martins is an option. Other places are Clinique and other cosmetic brand counters in department stores. Sometimes their opinion on your skin type differs from counter to counter. You can do it online too at the Clinique website.

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Added on September 19, 2009, 5:56 pmBtw, i called Willaim Martins the other day and i was told that there's a special 10% discount for members on all Lab Series products. Membership fee is RM12 for 2 years. Not sure whether there's any discount for other brands. Normally a member will get 5% discount on all products. Their prices are the same with the department stores.

This post has been edited by jonny4: Sep 19 2009, 05:56 PM

I was wondering whether Shiseido Men facial products will be suitable for oily acne prone skin? I was out just now and was checking through the Shiseido Men product prices...RM90 for 125g facial cleanser, RM140 for 150ml toning lotion, etc. Shiseido seems a bit pricier compared to other brands. Also, is Shiseido any good ?

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Added on September 19, 2009, 10:45 pmyou could try using a product that contains salicylic acid to exfoliate the pores and loosen the whiteheads. Benzoyl peroxide based products like Oxy for example has been proven to be one of the most effective over the counter medication against mild acne. However, we all here are not dermatologists so please consult one before trying anything new.

This post has been edited by jonny4: Sep 19 2009, 10:45 PM

Anyone had any experience with Lab Series Power Wash and Lab Series Water Lotion ?

Another good medication for more severe acne is Retin-A. I'm not sure whether it's available over the counter but when i used it years ago it was. Retin-A is very strong and it actually makes the skin on your face peel. Once i had a pimple near the side of my mouth and i applied some Retin-A there...2 nights later that part of the mouth started to dry up real bad and started to bleed. Not a happy experience. If u guys do decide to use Retin-A remember to use moiturizer and sunscreen...it's absolutely vital.

Try investing some money in a more expensive razor. Try wet shaving instead of using a electric shaver.

If u want that really clean look u see on tv, try shaving against the grain. But beware though as shaving against the grain can irritate your skin so a good after shave is important. I used to shave against the grain but it gave me a lot of razor bumps.

Laser ??

Dude some guys out there will sell their soul to the devil to be able to grow a decent looking beard LOL

But to each his own. I have heard of lasers but i personally feel it's too drastic.

You should invest in a good sunblock even if u r using Retin A once a day. I overapplied the last time i used Retin A and my skin suffered badly.

Can we get Retin A without a prescription ?

Are you a licensed dermatologist ?

If No then your "professional advise" is as good as my mum's.

You can try Clinique http://www.clinique.com/

Click on the "My Skin Consultation" tab and proceed. Careful the sound volume on the website is very high !

It's not 100% effective though but can serve as a rough guide. You could also pop by a Clinique counter and they will so a skin analysis for you. Actually most high end brand consultants can do it for you for free. Just be nice to them and u might even get some free samples

Which Biotherm products specifically do u use ? Have u used anything in the T-Pur range b4 ?

This post has been edited by jonny4: Jan 8 2010, 04:39 PM

Thanks for sharing.

I am quite interested in the T Pure Toner actually. Does it leave any kind of residue on the face ? The last time I tried it at the counter I didn't really like the smell.

Alright

How long does the 200ml bottle last u ? How much do u use ?

My current toner (Clinique Scruffing Lotion 200ml) lasts me about 4-5 months and is slightly cheaper than the T Pur toner. I'm thinking of switching to T Pur but I just want to know if it can last as long as my Clinique. The thick consistency makes me assume that I will have to squeeze out more onto the cotton pad.

I recently bought Biotherm Homme T Pur toner after ron c's recommendation and its really quite good and one of the better toners i have used. I prefer it to the Clinique and Lab Series toners that were quite harsh.

I used the oil Control Solution. RM80 for 100ml and it lasted me only 2 months (i use it twice a day)
It wasn't really economical so that's why I switched to Clinique Scruffing Lotion which was double the size for the same price. But Clinique was overly strong and mostly contained alcohol, witch hazel, salicylic acid and preservatives. So that's why Biotherm appealed to me.

The Water Lotion quite expensive too (RM100 for 200ml) and when i tried it felt like water+alcohol and didn't seem worth the price.

I previously used the Lab Series Oil Control Face Wash and Oil Control Solution. The face wash was ok but overpriced and finished too fast. The Oil Control Solution didn't really control Oil at all. Right now I am using Lab Series Power Wash, Biotherm Homme T Pur Intense Lotion (toner) and Clinique M Gel Lotion (moisturizer). Same like u i use those products twice a day. Ever since I started using the Biotherm toner last week, the oil production has significantly lessened. So it seems to do the trick for me.

Do u use a moisturizer ? Most of the time ppl with oily skin think that they don't need a moisturizer but actually they do because the drier your skin gets the more oil is produced. So if u don't use a moisturizer start using one.

You can try the various oil control products. Almost all brands have one of these. I have tried the Biotherm one but I didn't really see a difference compared to my normal clinique m gel. Most of these oil control products are expensive, about RM140 for 50ml.

What u mean by "Basiaclly my face easily get oil after 2-3 wash" ?

This post has been edited by jonny4: Jan 15 2010, 06:32 PM

I got the Simple moisturizer too...is it the normal one or the oil control one ? The normal one too oily la...more suitable for at night or body.

If u got money to spend then a oil control moisturizer should be good for u. If not then a very light moisturizing gel like clinique m gel should be alright. I use those blotters too and yeah they really come in handy. But when come to skin products it all comes down to trial and error as everyone's skin is different.

Here are some examples:

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Most Clinique for Men products are just repackaged women's products and sometimes more expensive. For example the men facial soap comes in 150ml only and retails for the same price as the women liquid facial soap. But the catch is the women one comes in 200ml size. both are the same (i used both before). Even the Clinique SA told me to get the women one as it is more worth it LOL.

The Liquid Face Wash is just average and can be a little drying for some people. The Scruffing lotions are mainly alcohol, witch hazel and salicylic acid and are really overpriced. You could get something similar in ingredients and size for a quarter of the price (RM78, 200ml) at Guardian/Watsons.

The products I like are the M Gel Lotion (same as the women moisture gel) and facial scrub. There are many other products in the men range but those I mentioned above are the ones I have used before. I must stress that everyone skin is different and the products that didn't work for me might work for u and vice versa.

I used Clinique products (men and women) for a year before trying Lab Series and recently Biotherm Homme. My favourite is Biotherm Homme. But nothing beats the Clinique M Gel Lotion.