it wonders me you got so much free time *yawn *

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Lol hypocrite.

It's Sunday .

hmmm i should reply you part by part ~ to not making confuse
Yes you can call me dumb at here ~ lol ! i dun think i really need to identify myself here .... i dun feel important but some of the ppl know who i am ~ why i should represent who? i represent myself!!!

Sure~ every one want the community become big and every can have fun. but in order to make it big until to worldwide i feel that we should step by step, i believe that we are still growing as you can see the game was just started 1 year, in 1 year time we have grow the community alot, alot of team pop up, many turny have been made and success.

The meaning that you say we're just playing amongst ourselves and it ain't going to be so fun anymore soon. i don't get it !!
your meaning is malaysia team only play with malaysia team and don't play with oversea team, so we won't get anymore fun? or you mean we just scrim with own clan mate and let other team have no team to scrim and they will don't get fun anymore? if you say they just scrim with own teammate and other team have no ppl to scrim with, then you are wrong so far i see quite alot of clan scrim with other clan is just you don't know even some of the team go scrim online, and every one is having fun!

I feel that we are really growing and is just need more time to grow bigger to worldwide, the reason i say we need more time is we have not much sponsor for the game. You can see so far most of the COD4 turny is sponsor by CC not like CS or DOTA it have big sponsor for them .... so we should give more abit time to let the community bigger and make more sponsor to get more sponsor.

What i say here is all my opinion, does not represent any clan ~ if i say wrong or you feel that my view are wrong correct me.

P.S. my english SUX

Its okay, I get you clearly. Good points there, keep in touch plz.

do you really read my post clearly ?????? i know you not making it to sg vs msia.... i am saying the other fella get the wrong meaning ~ and you also miss understand me it also as i say just now we are so near to each other!! every team is just try to make the game better, and i am very happy and thank for you guys come down to join the SRC and help to make the community big. For the organizers i shall not say anything about it .... peace

p.s. i like to play with you guys, even we get our ass kicked but we still learn

This post has been edited by dumb: Dec 7 2008, 08:55 PM

<3 Bambi

Haiz.. now CoD4 ain't CoD4 anymore, because of some /r/ that want CS with much better graphic and can right click and aim. Why world like to change what it's not suppose to be?

Why NA/EU use Promod / DAMN:MW?

Because they want to play "game" competitively?
I don't think so...
They play it, simply because they get paid. DO u think they enjoy the game or like it?

WE want to play our own rule sets, because we want to enjoy the game competitively. I believe that every rule sets that we set here based on what we think make CoD4 is CoD4, game that we love, not game that we like and evolve become other game?

aww, come on, you mean you don't have any attitude?

Really, mods dont matter, somehow people seem to miss that part entirely in my posts!
I have no quarrel with singaporeans/malaysians with the mod. What i posted before was merely pointing out that the CoD4 community had split in 3. Something i had not anticipated.

You had to go all sarcastic on me. Geez.

On another note, i cannot help if organizers dont want to open tournaments to the region, its NOT MY CALL. When ASUS MY says, MALAYSIANS ONLY, i cant tell them to do things my way. They were the main sponsors of WGT. I pushed the idea to in2 <--- organizers of WGT to open slots to regional teams but ASUS SAYS NO again. I pushed for it so hard, in the end, all he could do was open 24 slots instead of the original 16 he promised.

The best part is, some joker says i pulled strings to keep it local. Why? OH WOW. Not pointing any fingers, it comes with the territory. More rumors fly that say i also pulled strings for SRC.

Let's not quarrel anymore.

We're here to bring our two communities to a higher level. But yes, we will always have our ruleset to promote entry level teams probably will still be a joke to you. But yeah, even after that charade, we still will help with the community. IT WAS NEVER ABOUT THE MODS OMG>

This post has been edited by crashtec: Dec 7 2008, 09:15 PM

u can change anything but i dun understand why they make the no sway fix....i effing hate that...already make the gameplay totally different...i feel that the recoil is different somehow but i am not sure

just nid to get use to it i guess

I've checked the raw files, there're no changes in all the weapons' recoil (with the exception of M40, which has a slighty harder downward kick).

The reason why the recoil feels different is most probably because the weapons does not sway. No matter where does the recoil kick, it'll definately return to the center of the screen without that "dreadful" sway; unlike the default game where the recoil will settle where the gun last swayed to.

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On the side note,

I can't believe that the moron who made this DAMN mod can make such retarded comments like this:


"...had their range reduced..."

Probably the "smartest" quote of the century. This guy totally misunderstood the in-game concept of "range".

Here's a simple illustration on how "range" works in-game:

"Range", is the transition from one damage value to another across distance. From the image above, the AK-74u deals 40 damage before 750 range (blue line), damage will decrease gradually from 40 to 20 from 750 to 1000 range respectively(green line), and will continue traveling with a constant 20 damage after 1000 range and beyond (red line). The bullet will only disappear at 8192 range.
TIPS: 1 unit of in-game "range" equals to 0.025 meters.

What this idiot did was that he reduced the "range" in hope that the "sniper AK-74u" problem will be solved miraculously.... IF 750 range (or 18 meters) is considered "sniping" to him, then I have nothing better to say.

No matter how he change the numbers for "range", it'll never solve the "sniper smg" problem as long as the mindamage is 20. Instead of addressing the real issue (hint: gun sway), this kid confronted with things that are not related to the problem at all.

This "genius" of the century deserves a dunce cap as his Nobel prize.

This post has been edited by Luftwacko: Dec 8 2008, 03:03 AM

so with the no sway fix somehow the way u aim at things will be different from the normal cod4 right? ...haiz...dun know whats wif this idiots la....arguing here is like arguing among ourself....not like those guys that created the mod even see our forums anyway

This post has been edited by Pro-MX: Dec 8 2008, 03:17 AM

Sorry, i'm a bit lazy to really look in the COD4 forums, but from what I see, COD4 needing heavy amounts of mods shows that it's not suitable for competitive play. I think that's the bottom line. I wonder why you guys play COD4 though. What's the advantage of COD4 to say, BF2? I love BF2 and if malaysian connection wasn't so shitty, I'd still be playing it. CS is great too, for quick, balanced group matches. COD4 to me was interesting, but one look at it, and a quick spin I already felt it's arcade-ness. Big turn off, and i didn't buy the game.

Is this forum for COD4 console gamers? because that would asnwer a lot. haha.

edit: Oh, forgot to add. It's nice to see a community having a good discussion like this. Especially with other nationalities as well. Keep it up!

This post has been edited by RahXeph0n: Dec 8 2008, 03:28 AM

Look Snapper. You said the record is 14-0 and 14-2. Great.

But what happens when a team comes up and plays against us 8-0. No offense to Bfnut, we could see there was something wrong after lunch, and they weren't playing their best, we could see it. And it wasn't their full team anyways. I think you provide poor examples for your competitive stifling of the locals. The best part is, you don't understand a few things which unfortunately are part of the community here. I'd say them out loud but then again, I'd be crucified. If you would like to know more, I'd be glad to PM you and illuminate you a bit further on this defect.

As you can see, you've already made accusation without knowing how much brian has been running around already. We are ALWAYS happy to visit singapore and we LOVE it when SG comes up to visit us. We have never made mention on whether you're professional or not and we all agree you're good players. Just because your organisers HAVE to open the tournaments to other countries to have a large number of people does not mean you have the right to come over and say that we're "protecting" our people. Personally the only way to learn is to lose over and over again because if you won all the time, you'd never learn anything. "Adversity breeds creativity." And if you cannot change you'll lose.

One more thing, what I do not like about supporters of Promod is this. Are you guys really so rude about it? I have never said Promod sucks on this forum. I may not like it personally but I've never said anybody was a douche bag for using it. So, Does using Promod automatically make you an *******? I can see that your post was posted condescendingly, the way you've worded your statement shows that you believe yourself superior in every way possible and your arguments show the same as well.

First you believe that PAM Mod is outmoded. This is true but have you grasped the concept of springboarding new teams into the arena? How many teams does SG have? Have you done as much work promoting the game? You have rich, highly concentrated and educated people within WALKING distance of each other. Why are there not more people? Thanks for FFF and RnF who often have to drive 30-45 minutes just to visit us. I can see they are making an effort to keep the community together. Are you? We've been using PAM4 to pull new teams in. If and WHEN they want to go professional that's THEIR choice. Fusion NEVER understood that or they would have kept their mouth shut all these months. They are arguing over something that they themselves don't understand.

I'm tired of hearing all these people pushing for a competitive mod. Seriously, it doesn't bloody matter what the bloody mod is. What matters is the AMOUNT of people that play it. Great we've got 8 clans from Sg and 2 from Malaysia who play "competitive" mods. Now look below.

We have a total of roughly 18 Confirmed teams and another 4 or 5 "under construction". The SRC tourney is in the midst of "manufacturing" more. So we have roughly... 100 men/women/kids playing this game? 60% of them game for "fun". Now, if you were suddenly convert them to say something "competitive", like Promod/Damn/insertCSLookalikehere, how many of them will swap over? 50%? 60%? There are STILL not enough people. So you get a total of 10 teams who are fixed so we can face each other over and over again.

If you guys can't be patient enough to even see the basic concept behind this, I feel very sorry for you, because it has been in planning for a year. If you think we didn't want the community to go professional, you have misunderstood everything from the start. A lot of the seniors have been gaming for 10 to 15 years. I've been gaming since 1995 with starcraft. Most of us are past it to go professional. We're making sure that that 17 year old in that little new clans gets the best possible chance to go PRO. With capital letters, totally unlike what TEQUILA thinks he is. The guy is lacking in social grace and the inability to actually convey his ideas properly. It's great that his team is "professional" and you know, "internationally" connected and all that Jazz. They obviously don't really care about the community as much as they care about being recognised themselves, because if they REALLY did care they would have understood what we were trying to do in the FIRST place instead of screaming we were doing it all wrong. Pui. Yes. You're so busy spouting your own religeon that you never understood a thing.

Sheesh, Rant off, i'm tired of typing though there is so much more to say, to explain and reveal.

For a second, think about the community and not where you bloody stand in it. It might reveal something about your motives.

Cheers
Sanction.

P.s Damn mod IS fun. Though the 5 second nades are a turnoff.

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Added on December 8, 2008, 3:33 amAnd no, this CoD subforum is comprised generally of Cod4 and a smattering of CoD5 players. you can post about anything CoD related though.

This post has been edited by Sanction: Dec 8 2008, 03:33 AM

so u r saying the current ruleset is to attract more peOpLe to build up their clan n play more competitively?
so in the future cOd4 community will gonna split...like...for. exaMple..
aMateur league=msian wild PeRkS!! ruleset
pro/veteran league=damm mod/promod

like this O__O

Yep, in the stock game, you'll need to compensate for the sway unlike the "no sway fix" mod.

Well, I wouldn't call it no sway "fix" btw, removing idling from the guns destroys the game balance instead of repairing it.

You see, not all guns in the stock game sway in the first place, only about half of them do. And the reason why IW chose certain guns to sway while others don't is because of one simple answer: Balance. By removing the gun sway, those guns that do not sway in the first place will be outclassed by those that do.

Hence, it shouldn't be called "no sway fix". It should be called "no-sway destruction mod".

Effectively in short it will be that way.

Here's a very basic example of how a community works. It is more or less pyramid shaped.

Right at the bottom you have the casual gamers who play once in a while with no interest to really improve, this is the largest group and will never be beaten in size by any other group.
Above them you have people who play it with friends or who like playing with competitive rules but don't want to commit to gaming.
Above them you have the "weekend warriors" who take on tournaments every now and then and play together with the same team. They don't win but they don't mind losing.
Now you have active clans, people who actively practice and participate in local tournaments but don't have the time/commitment to push it through the barrier.
At the very top you have teams/clans/fraternities/Psychos who want to push the extra envelope and bring the war to other countries, aka the world.

Now, this is more or less a tried and proven view of most communities. Not everyone has the personal skill to carry it all the way to the top, no matter how hard they try. Now without the pool of less "professional" players who are the big teams at the top or the elite going to recruit? Who is going to fill up the numbers necessary for each event? The further up the pyramid you go the less people there are. I am talking logically or not? The MOD was never ever in question really. We've want the numbers, with numbers come some form of stability.

This post has been edited by Sanction: Dec 8 2008, 04:17 AM

HMm since we r focusing bout numbers,
arent we neglecting about *cod4 awareness* in other states

Now how are we going to do this? The idea has been put forth and was under internal discussion with a few others, however the most important thing you'd want to worry about it... MONEY!!! Now if we had a way to make it easy for some poor guy in Alor Setar with his awfully bad connection to play with us on equal grounds don't you think we'd have done it by now =.=". As it is, If I was a billionaire I'd organize a roadshow right now, oh wait, no I'd get my secretary and personal assistant to do it for me and they'd spread the word of CoD, Hell if I was a billionaire I'd sponsor tournaments and pay for the cash prizes into the 10's of thousands. I bet hundreds of gamers would clamor to join if i threw several million into the project, but sadly...... I'm not.

=(( pardon the sarcasm, I would had thought this was pretty obvious.

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Added on December 8, 2008, 4:37 amAnother thing I'd do, I'd start my own ISP and renegotiate it in such a way that unless our national ISP doesn't lower their rates they'd never be able to compete with me...Don't forget the installation of dedicated and proper wires which don't run on our copper phone network.

This post has been edited by Sanction: Dec 8 2008, 04:37 AM