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 NOKIA N97!, Nokia New Flagship Smartphone

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gzero
post Jul 1 2009, 11:46 PM

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OMG, i have just bricked my phone from a "SUCCESSFUL" firmware flashing. Didn't know why. The firmware isnt available to certain region yet, so i had to debrand my Singtel set into a generic N97. NSU detected the phone successfully, updated successfully but after switching it off and on again, i found it's stuck in a rebooting loop non stop. The white screen came on and off and i could not even boot into home screen sad.gif.

If anyone else is trying to debrand/rebrand and update it, i would say DONT DO IT. as of now, i'm not sure if this is caused by my action of debranding the phone or there's a problem with the firmware itself.

gotta go tomorrow to nokia care centre, and i'll just tell them i bricked my phone even after a successful flash. i won't tellt hem anything more, hopefully i can get warranty for it tongue.gif
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post Jul 1 2009, 11:55 PM

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nokia will probably do a hard reset using cables... hehe
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post Jul 2 2009, 12:31 AM

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If you guys bother to go to the NCCs, they already have the new firmware. One girl from a NCC called me today during lunchtime to say that they have the new firmware already and that I can bring my phone in to flash it. Dun ask me why they called me cos' its a long story.

Went to the NCC to update the firmware in the evening at about 6:30pm. Done by 8:00 pm. Version 11! Yippeee!

[Oooppss.. when i mentioned "today", I meant Wednesday, 1st July, 2009. I just realised as I was typing this it was already past midnight and already Thursday, 2nd July, 2009.]

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post Jul 2 2009, 01:30 AM

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Hmm the firmware is still not available using Nokia Software Updater for me...Hope it get release soon -__-
Kinda sick with the slow responsive UI input and the side lock backlighting issues.
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post Jul 2 2009, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(jpaq @ Jul 2 2009, 12:31 AM)
If you guys bother to go to the NCCs, they already have the new firmware. One girl from a NCC called me today during lunchtime to say that they have the new firmware already and that I can bring my phone in to flash it. Dun ask me why they called me cos' its a long story.

Went to the NCC to update the firmware in the evening at about 6:30pm. Done by 8:00 pm. Version 11! Yippeee!

[Oooppss.. when i mentioned "today", I meant Wednesday, 1st July, 2009. I just realised as I was typing this it was already past midnight and already Thursday, 2nd July, 2009.]
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So how is the overall experience after the firmware update ? Hm.. did the update reset anything like sms , contacts or anything else? or just a update without touching anything else?
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post Jul 2 2009, 02:34 AM

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hmmm,even with the new firmware they did not fix the low video sound recoding problem.. not even sure if its fixable...
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post Jul 2 2009, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(BabyMilo_85 @ Jul 1 2009, 10:04 PM)
i get it frm http://opda.net.cn.......!!!!JUST FOR UR REFERENCE!!!!

Goodnews to all Nokia N97 owners! The new firmware v11.x.021 firmware willbe released tomorrow so check out NSU the first thing you do when youwake up tomorrow morning
Update: You can find the changelog after the break…
Changelog:
-USB detection error fix
-PC does not detect N97 or USB charging connection not detected.

-Widget
-Home screen online/offline widget crash fix
-Fix for “Alphabetical and Number input are mixed in facebook until end key is pressed.
-Widget UI improvement – New facebook widget fixes a problem of Home Screen background visible on soft-key area.
-Browser fixes to improve widgets stability.
-MfE related fixes
-Partial fix for Messaging/calendar entry lost.
-Mail for exchange calendar entry synchronization error fix.
-UI transition error fixes (Portrait <-> landscape transition, there is a home screen corruption.)
-UI transition (Slowness and bad effects)
-Slow Touch UI response
-Picture of the device lock appears half of the screen when transitioning the UI sometimes
-Landscape: in some cases the soft buttons on touch (right hand) show the Home Screen in background (install maps.google.com)
-Photos thumbnail performance and stability improvements
-Device performance deteriorates when lots of content in the device - especially photos
-Partial fix no display backlight illumination when unlocking lock-key – CAP Genius reported already
-New version of Accueweather to improve the “Connection error” situation
-Device reset when browsing with high speed packet access (for Malaysia)
-“Browser soft key UI doesn’t work after putting Chinese character with qwerty keyboard”
-Java fixes (TCK, Pre-install app disappearing, *#7370#*)
-Operator fixes (CMCC, Hutchson and Telefonica, Vodafone)
-Ovi store client now embedded in the core image


Added on July 1, 2009, 10:09 pmanybody already upgrade to new firmware??

share d new experiences of N97 with us ya....  smile.gif
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I got USB error.... Yeah, New firmware can fix already. yahoo

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post Jul 2 2009, 10:08 AM

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If you go to the NCC to update, all your contacts, messages, calendar entries, notes etc will be gone (unless it was saved in the mass memory). So I would advise to backup.

The slide lock key - backlight issue has been fixed, happily. It was irritating the hell out of me! Overall responsiveness seems faster but dun expect superspeeds! But then this is subjective.

One thing I noticed improved a lot is the speed of switching of the screen from portrait mode to landscape and vice versa.

I also have the video recording with low sound volume bug but I have not tested whether this has been fixed yet.

Photo thumbnails viewing in the default photo viewer has improved. Thumbnails are clear and they load faster now.

As for the other bugs, I will have to use the phone a few more days before reporting anything as I either never experienced some of the bugs before or some of the bugs come and go randomly and cannot be re-produced at will. So have to use a bit more to see.

For those who can't wait to get the new firmware, and you have time, go update your phone at a NCC. But remember to backup first!
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post Jul 2 2009, 10:27 AM

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Oh no...have drive up there and nevermind waiting it available online then...
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post Jul 2 2009, 10:44 AM

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errr.....is that the navigation tool ->nokia map...in our N97 is permanent and wont get expired?

i had installed the GARMIN in my N97 (fully xxx )and i noticed tht d signal of GPS is very poor even i stand outside d building.... doh.gif but when i switch to Nokia map ( AGPS closed)....it become stronger signal n easier connect GPS.... icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

i so weird about this.. sweat.gif sweat.gif is anybody get same problem like me??..... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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post Jul 2 2009, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(-҉- @ Jul 2 2009, 02:34 AM)
hmmm,even with the new firmware they did not fix the low video sound recoding problem.. not even sure if its fixable...
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low video sound recording problem is because the mic is placed at the slide on keypad there, u have to slide on to get clearer sound..
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post Jul 2 2009, 11:32 AM

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Let's have a bet.

When do you guys think we'll get our firmware?
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post Jul 2 2009, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(giorgene @ Jul 2 2009, 11:20 AM)
low video sound recording problem is because the mic is placed at the slide on keypad there, u have to slide on to get clearer sound..
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That would make it quite impractical.... you won't be able to see what you are capturing properly since the screen is tilted when it is flipped up. I am sure they can tweak the software to at least improve it a bit...
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post Jul 2 2009, 01:24 PM

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its kinda wierd... why did nokia put the mic at the keyboard area where it is shielded by the front panel.

Also have to make sure do not slide against the back body as it will cause lots of sound...
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post Jul 2 2009, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(jpaq @ Jul 2 2009, 12:31 AM)
If you guys bother to go to the NCCs, they already have the new firmware. One girl from a NCC called me today during lunchtime to say that they have the new firmware already and that I can bring my phone in to flash it. Dun ask me why they called me cos' its a long story.

Went to the NCC to update the firmware in the evening at about 6:30pm. Done by 8:00 pm. Version 11! Yippeee!

[Oooppss.. when i mentioned "today", I meant Wednesday, 1st July, 2009. I just realised as I was typing this it was already past midnight and already Thursday, 2nd July, 2009.]
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which NCC did u went to?
i called NCC in sunway pyramid and they said theres still no latest firmware update v11 for n97..
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post Jul 2 2009, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(hasyir @ Jul 2 2009, 02:35 PM)
which NCC did u went to?
i called NCC in sunway pyramid and they said theres still no latest firmware update v11 for n97..
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Thats strange... anyway, I went to the one in One Utama, old wing, near the cinema. For others, if you plan to go to other NCCs, then I suggest you call them first, otherwise go there and waste your time only if they dun have it in the end.
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QUOTE(jpaq @ Jul 2 2009, 03:00 PM)
Thats strange... anyway, I went to the one in One Utama, old wing, near the cinema. For others, if you plan to go to other NCCs, then I suggest you call them first, otherwise go there and waste your time only if they dun have it in the end.
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But how come loss of data?

I thought firmware updates on the N97 will not cause loss of data.
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post Jul 2 2009, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(jpaq @ Jul 2 2009, 03:00 PM)
Thats strange... anyway, I went to the one in One Utama, old wing, near the cinema. For others, if you plan to go to other NCCs, then I suggest you call them first, otherwise go there and waste your time only if they dun have it in the end.
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do you check the version of your N97, sometimes for the new model, when user complaint about the hang problem and ask for update, actually service center just reboot the phone only, but not upgrade any firmware cause there still don't have any..
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post Jul 2 2009, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(blinky @ Jul 2 2009, 03:08 PM)
But how come loss of data?

I thought firmware updates on the N97 will not cause loss of data.
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If you do it OTA, then most probably no data loss (though I would advise you to backup in any event just in case). If you do it through the NSU or the the NCC most probably there will be data loss. With my old 5800 last time, i updated through NSU before and had a data loss. But when i updated a second time there was no data loss. So, who knows.

But to avoid any confusion, when I am talking about data loss, only the data in the Phone Memory may be lost. The data in the Mass Memory will be ok as it acts like a memory card. It should not be affected by the updating procedure.

But just back up anyway (even if you do it OTA later). No harm and its easy. Do you really want to risk it? The NCC does not guarantee anything and they even asked first whether I have backed up or not. To be safe, backup everything including your Mass Memory, which may take a long time. At least do it once a month or something. Then for other times, if you are lazy, just backup everything but leave out your Mass Memory.

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QUOTE(blinky @ Jul 2 2009, 03:08 PM)
But how come loss of data?

I thought firmware updates on the N97 will not cause loss of data.
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no, if you go thru service center, the method / the way they update the firmware, normally will lost all the data, like a new phone again..
actually service center will tell you also they won't responde if any data lost during the update, so better you back up first before pass to service center..

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