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 Worst and best car audio brands?, For all noobs! Sifus pls comment!

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post Jan 27 2010, 09:14 AM

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Use 1 sub and run the sub on its highest impedence. Benefit on doing this is :
you won't stress your alternator and battery
you won't have lights dimming issues
you cannot see red light on your amp
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post Jan 27 2010, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Jan 27 2010, 09:14 AM)
Use 1 sub and run the sub on its highest impedence. Benefit on doing this is :
you won't stress your alternator and battery
you won't have lights dimming issues
you cannot see red light on your amp
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So the Ma 300W RMS@4Ohm not even good to use with 1 of those sub?
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post Jan 27 2010, 03:59 PM

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I never check the specs for your sub an amp. But as long as your amp power at highest impedence > sub power, it will be ok. Enclosure also play an important role on this. Go ported as it require lesser power compare to sealed which you need double of the sub power(sub rated 200W means you need atleast 400W from amp).
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post Jan 28 2010, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Conroe @ Jan 27 2010, 03:09 AM)
Need some advise from u guys.

Isit BM VTK-S12 is a acceptable sub for SPL and how durable?I'm going to get 2 of those to add in my car which is currently running on Mid and components only.Wanna add some heart pounding.

So 2pcs of BM VTK-S12 1300W 4Ohm Double voice coil and a MA Audio MA-3001D 600W RMS Class-D Monoblock.

Spec of amp:

300W RMS @ 4 Ohm
600W RMS @ 2 Ohm
Max Power: 1400W PMPO
PWM MOFSET switching power supply
Adaptive Class D technology
High powered transformer
High powered stacked inductor
Pure N-channel design
Doubles power into 2 ohms

Possible to wire both sub into 2ohm with that amp bridged?How?Or i need more juice/other high RMS monoblock?

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amp not enuff power lor, each sub is 1300W (maybe its max power, does it say what is nominal power or rms power?)

even then, if u wire the subs parallel + series to give the amp a 4ohm load, each sub only gets 150W...

try to find a monoblock amp that gives at least 1000W and can go to 1 ohm, so can wire the subs parallel + parallel
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post Feb 27 2010, 07:41 PM

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Hey guys may i know which category does Epsilon comp set falls under?

I was quoted Rm500 for an Epsilon comp set and Sony rear including installation. Which model I'm not too sure.

What do you guys think? Please help, still a rookie in this. thumbup.gif
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post Feb 28 2010, 06:06 AM

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if wan to categorize epsilon, can be considered local budget range a.k.a. cap ayam. if dats ur onli budget, go ahead la, we all play according to our own budget. smile.gif
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post Feb 28 2010, 04:02 PM

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Oh, I see i see.. Thanks =)

I've seen quite a number of people suggesting to others that the rear speakers are not necessary to be changed.
For a minimal setup, just add on a comp set will do. How true is that?

For instance, if I just get myself a RM400~500 Pegasus or Soundstream kinda compset only as compared to RM500~600 for a lower range compset + rear speakers, which will be better?

I am a hobbyist who seeks high-quality audio, but restrained by budget. As I am a student, I couldn't afford to spend so much for ICE of my car.
Will changing the rear speakers to a normal RM200~300pioneer or sony 6X9" make a lot of difference?

Please advise sifus!

This post has been edited by liquiddog: Mar 1 2010, 01:33 AM
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post Mar 1 2010, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(robinhood @ Jan 21 2010, 08:19 AM)
I don't see that carcrazy has ever mentioned his shop is providing perfect service. Anyway, if the forum is going to turn into a battlefield for those in the ICE business, I think the forum will lose its credibility as a platform for exchange of ideas.

My philosophy for ICE is very simple, "The best set up will be the one that you are satisfied with. Sound quality is always 'individualized' (nobody knows it better than yourself)".
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Soo true. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 1 2010, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(liquiddog @ Feb 28 2010, 04:02 PM)
Oh, I see i see.. Thanks =)

I've seen quite a number of people suggesting to others that the rear speakers are not necessary to be changed.
For a minimal setup, just add on a comp set will do. How true is that?

For instance, if I just get myself a RM400~500 Pegasus or Soundstream kinda compset only as compared to RM500~600 for a lower range compset + rear speakers, which will be better?

I am a hobbyist who seeks high-quality audio, but restrained by budget. As I am a student, I couldn't afford to spend so much for ICE of my car. 
Will changing the rear speakers to a normal RM200~300pioneer or sony 6X9" make a lot of difference?

Please advise sifus!
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very true... but it doesnt stop there... there is a lot of things after that as well...

good luck...
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post Mar 1 2010, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(liquiddog @ Feb 28 2010, 12:02 PM)
Oh, I see i see.. Thanks =)

I've seen quite a number of people suggesting to others that the rear speakers are not necessary to be changed.
For a minimal setup, just add on a comp set will do. How true is that?

For instance, if I just get myself a RM400~500 Pegasus or Soundstream kinda compset only as compared to RM500~600 for a lower range compset + rear speakers, which will be better?

I am a hobbyist who seeks high-quality audio, but restrained by budget. As I am a student, I couldn't afford to spend so much for ICE of my car. 
Will changing the rear speakers to a normal RM200~300pioneer or sony 6X9" make a lot of difference?

Please advise sifus!
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i would suggest u to concentrate on ur front comp set onli. dun waste money on rears. i'm oso a student, all i did is save up slowly and over the years, u'll hve a very nice systems, just depends how far u wanna go. u plan to use the epsilon amp? perhaps u can raise ur budget to abt 700 can get urself a better front comp. like boston acoustics SX60, focal access, alpine type R and so on. another rm200 isn't so hard to save, right? anyway, it's still ur choice how u wanna spend ur money, i'm juz giving advice through my exp.
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post Mar 1 2010, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(ckmoy007 @ Mar 1 2010, 09:44 PM)
i would suggest u to concentrate on ur front comp set onli. dun waste money on rears. i'm oso a student, all i did is save up slowly and over the years, u'll hve a very nice systems, just depends how far u wanna go. u plan to use the epsilon amp? perhaps u can raise ur budget to abt 700 can get urself a better front comp. like boston acoustics SX60, focal access, alpine type R and so on. another rm200 isn't so hard to save, right? anyway, it's still ur choice how u wanna spend ur money, i'm juz giving advice through my exp.
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Guess I won't be getting an amp, don't quite wanna spend on that. I did some research and I reckon I'll focus on the front compset like mentioned.
However the guy that fixed my alarm system told me that I could change the 6X9" for better bass.
Question is, will I be lacking of bass even if I change to a sets of Rm700 or so for the front? *my rear is stock speaker

I kinda agree that some said rear speakers are for rear passengers. What I need now is staging effect. Everything i hear is from the back lol.
Even the 4" in the dashbox couldn't draw any difference.

Any comment for these sets? Range 350~450

Magnat Xperience216
Soundstream XTC.6
JBL GTO607C
JBL GTO6506C

Or are there any better recommendation?

Thanks.
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post Mar 2 2010, 12:10 AM

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i think the jbl is fake for that price. maybe u can find GT5 but not ori GTO. for bass, it depends which kinda bass u talking abt, big bass onli comes from woofer. dun waste money on 6x9 altho it's true it will help a bit in bass but u will lose everything else. get a better front comp can give u better midrange and smoother music.
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post Mar 2 2010, 02:29 AM

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That price was quoted from Howiechoo's store.

Anyway, by just changing a better comp set will have soothing sound but the punch of bass wont be there? I'm not talking about big bass, but just mild once, of course better than stock. Perhaps what i'm trying to say here is, can comp set produce a firm bass but not too loud?


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post Mar 2 2010, 04:23 AM

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of cos it can produce midbass. but without amp, it wun go far/loud. if it's howie, i suppose it's ok since he's selling for a long time d. u gonna use HU to power it? sure will be better than stock but dun expect much bass till u install an amp.
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post Mar 2 2010, 06:03 AM

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^Wow, you change your statements very fast... Initially, cheap = fake. But Howie only sell real products? How sure you are on this? Just the name? Now alot of people still not wake up, maybe fast fast change your statement in post#512 will be great(in misleading people).
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post Mar 2 2010, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(liquiddog @ Mar 2 2010, 02:29 AM)
That price was quoted from Howiechoo's store.

Anyway, by just changing a better comp set will have soothing sound but the punch of bass wont be there? I'm not talking about big bass, but just mild once, of course better than stock. Perhaps what i'm trying to say here is, can comp set produce a firm bass but not too loud?
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My experience tells me that any comp speakers without the power of an external amp will produce less than satisfactory bass because the passive crossover usually saps quite a lot of power (could be in the region of 30%). If u don't intend to spend on an external amp, my opinon is that u should reserve those money for some 2 to 3 way coaxial speakers for the front stage (as they are much more easier to drive optimally).

Generally, coaxial speakers might lose out in terms of clarity or separation to a comp set, but at least you can drive them optimally using your HU internal amp power. Hence, better clarity and bass could be expected. Rear speakers is not really a neccesity unless your rear passengers insists on them. To certain extent, rear speakers could be utilized to complement the front stage bass (but most of the time, it jumbles up the music and pull the front stage unless u have the option to time aligned them). Well, that's another story then. smile.gif

By the way, coaxial speakers are generally cheaper than comp set too. Look at your priorities before jumping the bandwagon. But I will still advise u to get an external amp instead of spending on some rear speakers.
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post Mar 2 2010, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 2 2010, 06:03 AM)
^Wow, you change your statements very fast... Initially, cheap = fake. But Howie only sell real products? How sure you are on this? Just the name? Now alot of people still not wake up, maybe fast fast change your statement in post#512 will be great(in misleading people).
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dude.... u dealt with howie before? U met him before? if not, then ur statement is baseless and render nothing more than to put some1 down..so shut the f*** up and start by thinking with ur brain

I met with Howie since he was still working with AG and that was in 2007. Got my stuff (ice and non-ice related) from him. I can stand up for this guy for his work and reputation. And u being the retardedsupersound.. take ur sorry ass elsewhere.
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post Mar 2 2010, 09:48 AM

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^Well, if you are not bafukie and is bufukie, you maybe right. But then you are under the same gang, your statement is same as mine, baseless, if thaat's the thing you want to call for.
Well, if you want to defend your friend, go ahead. Already known that you want to help your gang to do free ads here.


On the side note, I guess I've gone a little bit too far by attacking some acc shops and their gang that doing free ads here(especially that coward bafukie and another coward mod from mycarhifi). I'm sorry for that.
Now to all the cowards that always doing personal attacks on me and wanted to help their boss to do business on forums, what can you do to guarantee and safeguard newbies investments? Will you buy back their items if any problem arise?

Like liquiddog's question, for ckmoy, since you change your statement like changing underwear, will you buy them back if Howie do sell fake speakers?

This post has been edited by supersound: Mar 2 2010, 10:36 AM
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post Mar 2 2010, 10:59 AM

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as far as i know howie... dealt with him before AG and till now...

if its fake... he would tell me its fake... if its genuine... he will tell me its genuine...

if its a good thing for me... he will sell to me... if its a bad thing for me... he wont sell to me...

and about the gang gang thingy... wake up from your imaginations and fantasies...
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post Mar 2 2010, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 2 2010, 09:48 AM)
^Well, if you are not bafukie and is bufukie, you maybe right. But then you are under the same gang, your statement is same as mine, baseless, if thaat's the thing you want to call for.
Well, if you want to defend your friend, go ahead. Already known that you want to help your gang to do free ads here.
On the side note, I guess I've gone a little bit too far by attacking some acc shops and their gang that doing free ads here(especially that coward bafukie and another coward mod from mycarhifi). I'm sorry for that.
Now to all the cowards that always doing personal attacks on me and wanted to help their boss to do business on forums, what can you do to guarantee and safeguard newbies investments? Will you buy back their items if any problem arise?

Like liquiddog's question, for ckmoy, since you change your statement like changing underwear, will you buy them back if Howie do sell fake speakers?
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Idiot!!!
Look at your signature!!
Who is doing business here??
Help their boss to do business on forums??
I think no one here is as desperate as you!!
Ppl attack you because of your bad attitude, not because they want to compete with you on this little business!!
Get it?? IDIOT!!!!
And you don't have to say sorry-you just have to feel sorry for yourself.

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