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post Oct 19 2008, 12:34 AM, updated 17y ago

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Cat Thread Version 1

Cat Lovers Version 2

Cat Lovers Version 3

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. All About Cat at Wikipedia . blush.gif
. The Cat Zine - Your Online Feline Cat Information & Guides . biggrin.gif

. Malaysia Official Cat Club Society . biggrin.gif
Feline Society of Malaysia

. Local Animal Shelters Organisation . rclxms.gif
SPCA Website - Soceity for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.
PAWS Website - Paws Animal Welfare Society.

. Kitten/Cats for Adoption . hmm.gif
SPCA's Gallery - kittens/cats available for adoption from SPCA.
Kitten.com.my Gallery - kitten/cats what were strays are taken home & put up for adoptions.
SCCARFS' Gallery - an indepedent charity project that rescues kittens/cats off the streets & put up for adoption.
MyKucing Community Service - cat/kitten for adoption.
Pet Finder

. Cat Forum Sites . nod.gif
Kitten.com.my - Malaysia's own Cat forum.
Mykucing.com - Malaysia's Cat Lovers Community
Catster.com - Cats version of Friendster.

. What Is Domestic Longhair (DLH) and Domestic Shorthair (DSH)? . brows.gif
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HAY HAY HAY! yay v4. rclxms.gif
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Wooooah V4 already!!!Amazing!! biggrin.gif
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Since its already version 4, can I be member number 40 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(spidergirl @ Oct 19 2008, 01:06 AM)
Since its already version 4, can I be member number 40 biggrin.gif
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Done! You are the lucky Version 4 = 40 ! rclxms.gif

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*celebrating with my cats*. Oren's asleep on his fav mat. Hitam's on the coffee table, licking her fur.
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Anyone know where can get a American Shorthair or British Shorthair around Selangor?
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Anyone know where can get a American Shorthair or British Shorthair around Selangor?
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You can try Blue Babe Cattery. She is one of british shorthair breeder in malaysia. you can contact her at the website and inquiry for kitten for sale or other people selling BSH.

remember its very hard to get breed quality cat from cattery smile.gif most of them prefer to sell it neuter. unless u want to open your own cattery and registered it under any cat organization, than they will allow u to purchase breed quality cat.

else, u need to find it from petshop tongue.gif
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Lol el, lom tido ke?

Btw, is the shorthair is somehow alike with local cat?
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Hmm actually BSH would be my second choice, i rather have a American, BSH nampak too ganas lar, was thinking of getting my own cat recently bought a exotic utk teman, was thinking of getting a shorthair for myself, something that has less of a maintenance.
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guys any pointers or suggestion before i head off to get my kitteh litter box?
any particular thing i need to take note of?
damn today gona be a big spending day for me laugh.gif

Frontline, Litterbox, Food, Moar Food, Toys, Moar Toys

anything else for a new kitteh?
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You're going with kibbles or canned food?

Was wondering actually, since a lot of people say raw food is the best and kibbles causes a lot of harm in the long run is it true?

Anyway, melamine can't get into cat food right?
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Oct 19 2008, 02:56 AM)
Lol el, lom tido ke?

Btw, is the shorthair is somehow alike with local cat?
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Siamese, Singapura, Havana brown, tonkinese, burmese, oriental etc.... macam bulu local cat.

While breed macam british short hair, exotic short hair, russian blue, bobtail, manx, etc .... their fur short but bushy. not at flat as local cat.

u can feel the difference when u touch them.
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QUOTE(-gemini- @ Oct 19 2008, 07:59 AM)
guys any pointers or suggestion before i head off to get my kitteh litter box?
any particular thing i need to take note of?
damn today gona be a big spending day for me laugh.gif

Frontline, Litterbox, Food, Moar Food, Toys, Moar Toys

anything else for a new kitteh?
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i always advice friends not to spend too much $$ on things.. u better concentrate more on food and vets smile.gif

like litter box, just buy the cheap container that has good height and dimension at supermarket such as carrefour, giant, tesco...

here is my DIY litter box tongue.gif cheap tongue.gif

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so why spend so much, when u can get something cheaper. besides, it will still spoil also right. the toyogo above is much more thicker than petshop litter box tongue.gif

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Litter = if u a type of cannot tahan the smell.. go get OKO PLUS.. its expensive eheheh but very good. if u have 1 / 2 cat this is still suitable.

Toys
= check the cheap one.. i get this sponge soft ball that normally baby play... i get it from Giant aswell.. RM10, for 15 soft balls laugh.gif . last time i always like to buy this expensive petshop toys, end up destroy and some end up they don't like the expensive one. newspaper ball is their favorite. also box!!! they love box biggrin.gif

frontline = if u have fleas then you dont have other choice ehehe.. i like this brand smile.gif so much buy biggrin.gif

Food
= Premium food is good (easiest brands to find are Royal canin, Science Plan, and IAMS. other brand such as acana, proformance, blackwood, eagle pack, etc, pun bagus but hard to find).
if u cat afford super premium like orijen - better.

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hope my 2 cents opinion helping you smile.gif


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QUOTE(naTTan @ Oct 19 2008, 09:21 AM)
Was wondering actually, since a lot of people say raw food is the best and kibbles causes a lot of harm in the long run is it true?

Anyway, melamine can't get into cat food right?
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Yea raw food is better than kibbles. but few things you need to consider:

- not all raw food nowadays are 100% safe. well, some of the cow & chicken are inject with something to make them grow bigger. this chemical inject do bring side effect.
- raw means raw smile.gif it won't be 100% clean as well. human cannot eat raw beef it, its not good right. same goes to cat aswell.. they easily get worms and disease. so it is better to half boil, or boil it before giving it to them.
-raw food very hard to prepare. by giving just the raw meet, it won't give balance diet aswell.

-kibbles was introduced to cats since 50 years ago. (errkk sound like Malaysia age tongue.gif).. research by research they do improve the quality of kibbles. by eating kibbles food, u get enough nutrition. but of course the premium or super premium lah. you cannot expect too much on whiskas and friskies (oh man, here i go again tongue.gif, don't miss understand i'm not trying to psycho anybody eheheh).
-kibbles contain enough vitamins and nutrition, unlike raw food, some vitamins cannot be found. so u need to give supplement for this.
-kibble very easy to get and give.
-in long term, cat might get kidney or bladder problem, so that is the reason why, when your cat eating kibbles, make sure they drink enough fresh water. make sure it is clean and filter water aswell.

so, my case, i feed kibbles daily (proformance for the adult, orijen for the kittens), and 2-3 times a week of half boil raw chicken and meat. just to tukar selera makan, and give some variety.. sakit juga gigi kan menguyah something keras all day eheheh.

p/s u can also replace that raw to cane food (the one in supermarket such as snappy tom, whiskas tuna, friskies), kalau tak sempat nak beli daging dan ayam kat pasar eheheh.

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 19 2008, 09:52 AM)
i always advice friends not to spend too much $$ on things.. u better concentrate more on food and vets smile.gif

like litter box, just buy the cheap container that has good height and dimension at supermarket such as carrefour, giant, tesco...

here is my DIY litter box tongue.gif cheap tongue.gif

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so why spend so much, when u can get something cheaper. besides, it will still spoil also right. the toyogo above is much more thicker than petshop litter box tongue.gif

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Litter = if u a type of cannot tahan the smell.. go get OKO PLUS.. its expensive eheheh but very good. if u have 1 / 2 cat this is still suitable.

Toys
= check the cheap one.. i get this sponge soft ball that normally baby play... i get it from Giant aswell.. RM10, for 15 soft balls  laugh.gif . last time i always like to buy this expensive petshop toys, end up destroy and some end up they don't like the expensive one. newspaper ball is their favorite. also box!!! they love box biggrin.gif

frontline = if u have fleas then you dont have other choice ehehe.. i like this brand smile.gif so much buy biggrin.gif

Food
= Premium food is good (easiest brands to find are Royal canin, Science Plan, and IAMS. other brand such as acana, proformance, blackwood, eagle pack, etc, pun bagus but hard to find).
if u cat afford super premium like orijen - better.

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hope my 2 cents opinion helping you smile.gif
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My GOD! That is a nice idea of the litter box!

I want to copy la
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Oct 19 2008, 10:37 AM)
My GOD! That is a nice idea of the litter box!

I want to copy la
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ahahah copy lah.. that's we do right .. "copy-cat" eheheeh icon_rolleyes.gif
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BSH bluebabe semua mata kuning, nak mata hijau...
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QUOTE(naTTan @ Oct 19 2008, 11:01 AM)
BSH bluebabe semua mata kuning, nak mata hijau...
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most british shorthair with blue color coat will have gold eyes color. if you bring BSH blue coat to cat championship with green eyes you get 0 point.

if you want green eyes, your BSH must be in colors such as shaded golden coat, chinchilla silver, chinchilla golden...

BSH eyes color is very important too.. u can easily get disqualify if u have wrong color tongue.gif oh well, but if it is just home pets than ok lah...

but if u spending like thousand of ringgit to get BSH, but better get the best out of it. else sia sia saja beli mahal2 but disqualify in so many ways.

you can check this website if you want to know what to check if you want to buy good quality BSH = http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/standards/british.html
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 19 2008, 10:42 AM)
ahahah copy lah.. that's we do right .. "copy-cat" eheheeh  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Do you have any DIY toys? Maybe can copy again. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 19 2008, 11:12 AM)
most british shorthair with blue color coat will have gold eyes color. if you bring BSH blue coat to cat championship with green eyes you get 0 point.

if you want green eyes, your BSH must be in colors such as shaded golden coat, chinchilla silver, chinchilla golden...

BSH eyes color is very important too.. u can easily get disqualify if u have wrong color tongue.gif oh well, but if it is just home pets than ok lah...

but if u spending like thousand of ringgit to get BSH, but better get the best out of it. else sia sia saja beli mahal2 but disqualify in so many ways.

you can check this website if you want to know what to check if you want to buy good quality BSH = http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/standards/british.html
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Pakai contact lens if thats the requirement for different eye color. sleep.gif
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Oct 19 2008, 11:13 AM)
Do you have any DIY toys? Maybe can copy again. laugh.gif
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abang, google "DIY cat toys".. eheheh alot of sites teaching you how to make one ..

don't forget to show off to us yeah!

p/s to be a cat, you must know how to "copy-cat", and "show off" eheheh.. then you are qualify... duh! I'm a cat! brows.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 19 2008, 11:15 AM)
abang, google "DIY cat toys".. eheheh alot of sites teaching you how to make one ..

don't forget to show off to us yeah!

p/s to be a cat, you must know how to "copy-cat", and "show off" eheheh.. then you are qualify... duh! I'm a cat!  brows.gif
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Lol, all the requirements to become a cat is a nono in my school. laugh.gif
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Actually nak pet which i would instantly fall in love with, and at first glance the grey BSH doesn't interest me at all. I like the shape and the face and all tapi one colour looks very mundane to me. That's why my first choice was a ASH, tapi no breeder of ASH here, there was that one thread in garage sales said he had ASH, but no reply from him...
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QUOTE(naTTan @ Oct 19 2008, 11:24 AM)
Actually nak pet which i would instantly fall in love with, and at first glance the grey BSH doesn't interest me at all. I like the shape and the face and all tapi one colour looks very mundane to me. That's why my first choice was a ASH, tapi no breeder of ASH here, there was that one thread in garage sales said he had ASH, but no reply from him...
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QUOTE(naTTan @ Oct 19 2008, 11:24 AM)
Actually nak pet which i would instantly fall in love with, and at first glance the grey BSH doesn't interest me at all. I like the shape and the face and all tapi one colour looks very mundane to me. That's why my first choice was a ASH, tapi no breeder of ASH here, there was that one thread in garage sales said he had ASH, but no reply from him...
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oowww nak pet, can get domestic short hair.. pun ada gak yang muka bulat. which means, there are not pure breed, but mix mix punya.

pure breed sure mahal for kittens.. but cheaper for retired cat. and all of them is neuter for sure, since u want pet quality aight smile.gif
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Oct 19 2008, 11:16 AM)
Lol, all the requirements to become a cat is a nono in my school. laugh.gif
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you go to human school, ofcourse lah kena tangkap for copy cat tongue.gif

come join me at cat school smile.gif its great over here. my favorite subject is HUNT (which is equivalent to Pendidikan Jasmani in human school tongue.gif)

and i love GROOMING subject aswell (which is equivalent to Kemahiran Hidup in PMR, but Modern Science in SPM tongue.gif)
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Yup neutered is fine, tak expensive sgt, some breeders do it as a passion and don't sell very high for their cats as long as you promise to care for it.

Hmm the problem with nak dpt non breed cats is you kena amik dari adoption places, and ntah as a first cat, i want one yg i straight suka...tp all this planning jer not sure if i get a cat or not still...looking.
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QUOTE(naTTan @ Oct 19 2008, 11:36 AM)
Yup neutered is fine, tak expensive sgt, some breeders do it as a passion and don't sell very high for their cats as long as you promise to care for it.

Hmm the problem with nak dpt non breed cats is you kena amik dari adoption places, and ntah as a first cat, i want one yg i straight suka...tp all this planning jer not sure if i get a cat or not still...looking.
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yeah the pet quality + neuter will be cheaper. below RM1k dah boleh dapat.
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hai el...

morning....Amoda lak tak sihat el...asyik bersin je...samapai terkeluar hingus...tunggu cuti nk bwk jumpe vet..


Added on October 19, 2008, 12:14 pmeL...

Klu dah neuter/spay my cats...si abang tu akan mengiau mcm slalu tak...I mean..cam skrg...kul 2-3 pagi duk terpekik2 kat tingkap panggil kcg betina kat bwh..


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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 19 2008, 11:33 AM)
you go to human school, ofcourse lah kena tangkap for copy cat tongue.gif

come join me at cat school smile.gif its great over here. my favorite subject is HUNT (which is equivalent to Pendidikan Jasmani in human school tongue.gif)

and i love GROOMING subject aswell (which is equivalent to Kemahiran Hidup in PMR, but Modern Science in SPM tongue.gif)
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Oct 19 2008, 11:57 AM)
hai el...

morning....Amoda lak tak sihat el...asyik bersin je...samapai terkeluar hingus...tunggu cuti nk bwk jumpe vet..


Added on October 19, 2008, 12:14 pmeL...

Klu dah neuter/spay my cats...si abang tu akan mengiau mcm slalu tak...I mean..cam skrg...kul 2-3 pagi duk terpekik2 kat tingkap panggil kcg betina kat bwh..
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Hello smile.gif kesian amoda, kurang sihat ye..

Hmmm.. dia macam 3 process ni:

1. Neuter sejak kitten = tak akan ada sign of horny at all, sbb dia dah di sunat dari kecik before merasa mating.
2. Neuter sejak horny = after neuter, dia akan horny sekejap, but for a short time saja, soon dia akan terus hilang rasa mating.
3. Neuter sejak horny dan pernah mating beberapa kali in life = yang ni susah skit. takes longer time untuk dia tahu bahawa dia memang dah tak boleh producing eheheh.. in their mind masih ada sex, but it will not working. they will keep on trying, will never work tongue.gif


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El should post all the DIY stuffs for cats here...might be useful for those who's on a limited budget like students...
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 19 2008, 12:28 PM)
Hello smile.gif kesian amoda, kurang sihat ye..

Hmmm.. dia macam 3 process ni:

1. Neuter sejak kitten = tak akan ada sign of horny at all, sbb dia dah di sunat dari kecik before merasa mating.
2. Neuter sejak horny = after neuter, dia akan horny sekejap, but for a short time saja, soon dia akan terus hilang rasa mating.
3. Neuter sejak horny dan pernah mating beberapa kali in life = yang ni susah skit. takes longer time untuk dia tahu bahawa dia memang dah tak boleh producing eheheh.. in their mind masih ada sex, but it will not working. they will keep on trying, will never work tongue.gif
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El should post all the DIY stuffs for cats here...might be useful for those who's on a limited budget like students...
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yala el..I think u should post it... nod.gif

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can i be in the list too?? tongue.gif
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I also want... biggrin.gif


Added on October 19, 2008, 3:04 pmlagi satu el...


klu dah neuter or spay...si abg tu leh pancut sana sini lagi tak...skrg ni die tgh giler buat keje tu...hbs smue kwsn die mark...smue tmpt bau die jer...


Added on October 19, 2008, 3:13 pmabang brother...

ade berape ekor kucing?

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what list is this?
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I also want... biggrin.gif


Added on October 19, 2008, 3:04 pmlagi satu el...
klu dah neuter or spay...si abg tu leh pancut sana sini lagi tak...skrg ni die tgh giler buat keje tu...hbs smue kwsn die mark...smue tmpt bau die jer...


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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Oct 19 2008, 01:07 PM)

lagi satu el...
klu dah neuter or spay...si abg tu leh pancut sana sini lagi tak...skrg ni die tgh giler buat keje tu...hbs smue kwsn die mark...smue tmpt bau die jer...

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nope no more pancut pancut or spraying for marking heheheh

that male spray ah! aiyooo smell so bad and annoying.. shocking.gif
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nope no more pancut pancut or spraying for marking heheheh

that male spray ah! aiyooo smell so bad and annoying..  shocking.gif
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yala el...klu biar sampai 1 hari suntuk..trus takleh hlg kesan spray die kat dinding...adoiii...kat dapur I byk mark si abang....mcm ape org panggil lukisan kat dinding 2 el???

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Tp nape my kucings (jantan of course) never mark territory? Are they pondans? I see them lacks of masculine behaviours...
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Hi el! mind telling me the correct way to use FRONTLINE SPRAY for fleas?
do pm me because i'm kinda busy to check on this thread.
It's a kitten anyway , a stray kitten.
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Tp nape my kucings (jantan of course) never mark territory? Are they pondans? I see them lacks of masculine behaviours...
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EL same here pls on how to use Frontline
i went today shoppin and end up with only Frontline
all the vets i went recommend Frontline gak XD

i tried jst now tapi bau alcohol quite kuat then my kitteh cam sakit cuz burnin kot?
i spray then i guna cotton to sapu evenly but kaki i tak dapat buat lagik..shud i?

Then i tengok those bugger kutus cam xde hal je still runnin around that fella..lol
how long before the effect kicks in?
takut tak effective lak
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oh yeah and about the litter trainin, can someone shed some light on this?
i didnt get any litters yet but will newspaper be sufficient?
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Gemini : for frontline spray, well .. kalau tak silap i, u kena spray whole body and rub till it dry.

chop! u beli frontline spray ke spot on ?

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oh yeah and about the litter trainin, can someone shed some light on this?
i didnt get any litters yet but will newspaper be sufficient?
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lol i beli spray psal teh vet say too young for spot on (baru 5 weeks old)
and also i saw tadi the spot on combo. newer n better it claims..lol
but say for kucing not for kitteh gg
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QUOTE(-gemini- @ Oct 19 2008, 05:25 PM)
lol i beli spray psal teh vet say too young for spot on (baru 5 weeks old)
and also i saw tadi the spot on combo. newer n better it claims..lol
but say for kucing not for kitteh gg
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yea min age for spot on is 8 weeks.
since it's still a kitten, maybe u reduce the ammount of spray? then must rub till it dry.
Frontline really works ! today i dont see any fleas running around my cat anymore.
need to wait till the eggs hatch sweat.gif

u still using newspaper for litter box?
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ooo nice to hear ur flea problems almost done, grats mang.
yea lol cuz din get the litter sands yet XD
btw, my friend told me the sands can wash n reuse? can ke?
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selalunya i jemur kat tengah panas and throw away those dried poo sweat.gif

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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Oct 19 2008, 04:40 PM)
ur cat umr bape?
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Dalam setahun setengah gitu... hmm.gif
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die jnis lembik ckit...klu skali imbas tgk xmcm kucing jntn...die slalu kna buli dgn si abg...
i pn pelik knp die xmcm kcg jntn...body pun tk tough sgt...die blh jd mmber dgn kucing lain kat dlm rumh I...

spatutnye lah kan...kucg jntn kan tak suke kittenkan...tp die ok jer...siap msk dlm kotak n blh jilat2 kitten tu..


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QUOTE(-gemini- @ Oct 19 2008, 04:57 PM)
EL same here pls on how to use Frontline
i went today shoppin and end up with only Frontline
all the vets i went recommend Frontline gak XD

i tried jst now tapi bau alcohol quite kuat then my kitteh cam sakit cuz burnin kot?
i spray then i guna cotton to sapu evenly but kaki i tak dapat buat lagik..shud i?

Then i tengok those bugger kutus cam xde hal je still runnin around that fella..lol
how long before the effect kicks in?
takut tak effective lak
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Frontline Spray:
Please read the following instructions carefully before applying FRONTLINE Spray to your pet.

Wear household latex gloves. Hold bottle in upright position. Ruffle your pet’s coat with one hand while applying spray mist to back, sides, stomach, legs, shoulders and neck. For head and eye area, spray FRONTLINE Spray on a gloved hand and rub gently into your pet’s hair. Do not get this product in the animal’s eyes or mouth.

Apply spray mist until the hair is damp to thoroughly wet. Approximately 1 to 2 pumps per pound of body weight will be required. Animals with long or dense coats will require the higher rate.

As with any flea control product, wash your hands and exposed skin thoroughly with soap and water after use. To prevent flea build-up or reinfestation, use FRONTLINE Brand products prior to the onset of flea season and monthly thereafter. Do not reapply for 30 days.
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oh yeah and about the litter trainin, can someone shed some light on this?
i didnt get any litters yet but will newspaper be sufficient?
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Yea newspaper is ok if you have open air place for your cat. like balcony, or may be you have cat house in your house compound.

Some people using this too. they use paper shredder and recycle all paper in the office or neighbor house. which is a good thing smile.gif recycling thumbup.gif

but believe me, if u want to control litter odor, newpaper/paper won't help.

p/s when u used this for the first time, your cat will play with it. because memang nature kucing pantang tengok kertas ehehehe. when will eat, bite and roll into it tongue.gif
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btw, my friend told me the sands can wash n reuse? can ke?
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u mean sand yang untuk tanam bunga tu ke? never heard of this before.

becareful ooww tanah tu macam macam kandungan dia eheheh silap hari bulan cacing attach on your cat body.

using sand sound less money but need alot of time.

while buying litter at petshop cause money, but less of time to prepare.

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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Oct 19 2008, 06:27 PM)
I pun ade sekor name Hitam..umur lebih kurg ur cat..die pn tak pancut gak...

die jnis lembik ckit...klu skali imbas tgk xmcm kucing jntn...die slalu kna buli dgn si abg...
i pn pelik knp die xmcm kcg jntn...body pun tk tough sgt...die blh jd mmber dgn kucing lain kat dlm rumh I...

spatutnye lah kan...kucg jntn kan tak suke kittenkan...tp die ok jer...siap msk dlm kotak n blh jilat2 kitten tu..
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kebiasaan nya, when 1 male dah mark territory (buat lukisan abstrak kat dinding), other male will just shut up tongue.gif

i have multiple cat in the house. only 1 of them mark territory. which is SKY. masa tu dia tak sunat lagi. so he mark the wall.. and other male cat or even rescue cat come in, tak berani buat marking.

one time another male cat pancut, apa lagi, si SKY terus serang. and i was like " shakehead.gif "

semua ni macam, i was here first, so u all kena tunduk at me...

lain pulak cerita my friend, 4 male cats.. empat2 jenis tak mo kalah, semua spraying. everyday gaduh tongue.gif now dah aman, sebab all balls are gone forever tongue.gif
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Tp nape my kucings (jantan of course) never mark territory? Are they pondans? I see them lacks of masculine behaviours...
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pondan pondan pun, beranak juga bini dia tongue.gif jangan main main, aznil hj nawawi pun ada zuriat tau sweat.gif

i think mesti dia ada spray some where. just that you living in ground house kan and open air banyak right? so the smell tak power. unlike living in apartment yang macam dalam penjara ehehe bau dia semerbak seindah bunga mawar. jiwa kacau tak dapat tidur malam. itu baru kat dinding... kalau kat katil? kat sofa? peerrgghh mau 10 botol fabreze tongue.gif
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pondan pondan pun, beranak juga bini dia tongue.gif jangan main main, aznil hj nawawi pun ada zuriat tau  sweat.gif

i think mesti dia ada spray some where. just that you living in ground house kan and open air banyak right? so the smell tak power. unlike living in apartment yang macam dalam penjara ehehe bau dia semerbak seindah bunga mawar. jiwa kacau tak dapat tidur malam. itu baru kat dinding... kalau kat katil? kat sofa? peerrgghh mau 10 botol fabreze tongue.gif
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chibie dan jhombie.. heee~
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Oct 19 2008, 07:03 PM)
btl la el..klu org dtg pn akn tanye..eh..nape bau kencing je ni... doh.gif  malu sei...
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Ahahaha malu plak...dah bela kucing malu plak dia...tp mmg malu pn...nanti org ingat kita nie jenis pengotor..maluuu maluuu (tutup muka)
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klu hr cuti ...I sentiasa pastikan rumah bersih...tkt ade org dtg...kang bau mcm2 plak..


klu hr keje takleh buat ape la...kang tgh kemas...org dtg lak...

I dah la slalu blk lewat...hr2 duk mop lantai ...bersihkan litter box sampai kul 2-3 pg br tido ...letih giler... sweat.gif

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Ooooo I seee...anyway kucing kamagotchi tu comel laaa..yg bawah tuh...cam pakai neck tie plak dia...haha...
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Ooooo I seee...anyway kucing kamagotchi tu comel laaa..yg bawah tuh...cam pakai neck tie plak dia...haha...
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kucing ko yang macam siam tu, dan "awek" ko pun lawa gak Izwan brows.gif

oppss terlebih sudah sweat.gif

p/s hari tu ko pinjam royal canin aku, bila nak ganti balik (in real life, ala ala jiran pinjam garam lah konon nye) doh.gif
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Amboiiii usha awek aku plak ekk ko nieh!!Jgn main², garang tuu!! biggrin.gif

Ko ckp kt sape pinjam royal canine ko nieh, aku ke?Bile masa plak?Jahat sungguh ko menuduh aku... sad.gif
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Rc pn leh pinjam2....dasyatnyer... shocking.gif


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Amboiiii usha awek aku plak ekk ko nieh!!Jgn main², garang tuu!! biggrin.gif

Ko ckp kt sape pinjam royal canine ko nieh, aku ke?Bile masa plak?Jahat sungguh ko menuduh aku... sad.gif
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Oct 19 2008, 08:08 PM)
Rc pn leh pinjam2....dasyatnyer...  shocking.gif
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Ntah sape yg pinjam...ngengade betul la El nie...

Xde gambar kucing u ke?Malas nk baca yg belakang2 tu... sweat.gif

Kalau nk tgk juz cek profile je...senang sajeee... brows.gif

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Ntah sape yg pinjam...ngengade betul la El nie...

Xde gambar kucing u ke?Malas nk baca yg belakang2 tu... sweat.gif

Kalau nk tgk juz cek profile je...senang sajeee... brows.gif
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ade pic 'awek' u tu??
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Ala juz tekan nama hamba...nanti keluar la...

El, nie kucing ape ek?Burma?Siam?Kucing makcik aku nie...

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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 19 2008, 08:18 PM)
Ala juz tekan nama hamba...nanti keluar la...

El, nie kucing ape ek?Burma?Siam?Kucing makcik aku nie...

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aku pantang tengok kucing color macam ni.. suka sangat sangat tongue.gif

hmm aku rasa dia ni kucing malaysia, mungkin keturunan moyang2 dia dulu ada campuran siamese, sebab tu warna dia gitu. kalau tengok dari segi body gemuk berisi macam kucing malaysia. siamese yang pure biasa nya kurus slim macam aku hua hua hua. lagi pun ko kan duduk dekat dengan siam, so potensi dia ada keturunan dari sana ehehe.

org slalu ckp siamese dan kucing malaysia sama je.. but alot of different luaran dan perangai skali. siamese ni kalo betul2 siamese, dia tinggi, kurus, muka cengkung, and muncung panjang. kira nya exotic lah kan. ekor dia panjang dan solid. macam ekor tikus. laugh.gif

bagi kat aku lah kucing ni.. bley? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 19 2008, 08:09 PM)
Ntah sape yg pinjam...ngengade betul la El nie...

Xde gambar kucing u ke?Malas nk baca yg belakang2 tu... sweat.gif

Kalau nk tgk juz cek profile je...senang sajeee... brows.gif
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aiseyy ko ni tu lah... dulu pinjam, janji baik punya = nak ganti balik... tup tup dah 3 bulan beb, raya pun dah nak abis eheheh bila nak ganti balik.. tongue.gif

blush.gif nak aku tolong copy and paste kan tak blush.gif

ahahahah
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Oct 19 2008, 08:08 PM)
Rc pn leh pinjam2....dasyatnyer...  shocking.gif

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ek ek leh, nak cover.. ezaleina bila nak ganti balik iams? (iams ala ala kicap manis) doh.gif
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Ooooo campur kucing siam eh...patutla lawa semacam...aku pn geram gak..aku ade try mintak ngn makcik aku tp dia syg sgt2 kucing nie...n satu lg bulu dia lain macam ar gebu dia...maybe lebat...hurmmm...

Ha blh jugak ko tlg copy paste kan...hehe...rajin plak pakcik nie...
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elf...help !!!

one of the kittens are a bit lethargic lah since yesterday...she's always sleeping..n i dunno if she's eating or not...i brought to the vet yesterday, but he said that she's fine n just gave her an immune booster syrup thing..but i noticed she's always sleepy...

her other sibling are all active though...

do u think there's something wrong with her?
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QUOTE(mizeily @ Oct 19 2008, 08:42 PM)
elf...help !!!

one of the kittens are a bit lethargic lah since yesterday...she's always sleeping..n i dunno if she's eating or not...i brought to the vet yesterday, but he said that she's fine n just gave her an immune booster syrup thing..but i noticed she's always sleepy...

her other sibling are all active though...

do u think there's something wrong with her?
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some kittens ada lahir macam ni. ever saw few like this.

just like your case, ada yang very lazy than the others. ada yang active, but ada yang kurang active. ada pula yang kena buli tongue.gif

but if u still feel tak sedap hati, bring to other vet. like different vet. to see what is the result. sama atau tak sama.

if the kitten is too small, its very hard for the vet to diagnose. vet end up buat assumption. which i don't really like.
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itu lah dunia kami tongue.gif kamu pun boleh jadi kucing...

ek ek leh, nak cover.. ezaleina bila nak ganti balik iams? (iams ala ala kicap manis)  doh.gif
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waa...bile lak I pinjam IAMS??? shocking.gif
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waa...bile lak I pinjam IAMS???  shocking.gif
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ow...but she usd to be active...xpe2...will wait for couple of days 1st...

erm,,,one more...does pet shop sell dewormed pills? or have to got to vets?
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benci laaaa korang nih... dah pinjam tak ganti.. dulu bukan main manis lagi cakap nak ganti balik.. sedih nya aku.. tapi tak pe lah aku tetap akan grooming diri aku ni... tongue.gif sorry lah semua, aku tak waras ni tongue.gif entah apa aku makan tadi, termakan litter kot tongue.gif
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takpela...sian die...nanti kite bg balik ek..tak pinjam pn, ganti la jgk... nod.gif

kang tak ganti nangis lak...banjir lak dlm rumah tu... rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(mizeily @ Oct 19 2008, 09:07 PM)
ow...but she usd to be active...xpe2...will wait for couple of days 1st...

erm,,,one more...does pet shop sell dewormed pills? or have to got to vets?
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yup pet shop selling deworm pill and deworm syrup for kitten icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Oct 19 2008, 09:09 PM)
takpela...sian die...nanti kite bg balik ek..tak pinjam pn, ganti la jgk... nod.gif

kang tak ganti nangis lak...banjir lak dlm rumah tu...  rolleyes.gif
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Jgn di layan sgt si El nie...mabuk litter la tu...hehehe whistling.gif laugh.gif

El, ko xde kucing nk bagi free ke?Aritu aku ada nampak cat for adoption dari ko tp dh delete plak...cane rupe kucing tu? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 19 2008, 09:53 PM)
Jgn di layan sgt si El nie...mabuk litter la tu...hehehe  whistling.gif  laugh.gif

El, ko xde kucing nk bagi free ke?Aritu aku ada nampak cat for adoption dari ko tp dh delete plak...cane rupe kucing tu? hmm.gif
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dah di adopt lah dorang tu... aku rasa lama dah kena adopt...

ko kan ada anak2 baru.... jaga elok2, nanti dorang jadi cantik da boom macam mia tongue.gif
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erm...elf..ade lagi mau tyn...


i found a flea on the non - active kitten now.. cry.gif

checked2 cam xde dah...including the others...

now 2morow have to dewormed and defleas..huhu...

wanna ask, the frontline thing can be use for more than 1 cat ke? have to use continuously rite?

can use at kittens rite?

n..how much does it usually cost? the frontline...

aiyo...have to take emergency cuti from work lah tomorow..cannot biar this problem another day rclxub.gif
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wow, dah masuk versi baru ke??
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QUOTE(mizeily @ Oct 19 2008, 10:11 PM)
erm...elf..ade lagi mau tyn...
i found a flea on the non - active kitten now..  cry.gif

checked2 cam xde dah...including the others...

now 2morow have to dewormed and defleas..huhu...

wanna ask, the frontline thing can be use for more than 1 cat ke? have to use continuously rite?

can use at kittens rite?

n..how much does it usually cost? the frontline...

aiyo...have to take emergency cuti from work lah tomorow..cannot biar this problem another day  rclxub.gif
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ya frontline can be use for more than one cat. if u buy the spray type, jangan pula letak semua satu botol kat badan kucing, mau lain jadi nanti. 1 bottle can share with other cats.

some more yours is kitten, so tak perlu banyak pun. sikit je, badan dorang kecik kan.

price? u check back V3.. baru je dorang bincang kat situ smile.gif
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others than Frontline. what brand is good?
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Erm elly, if we spray just abit of frontline to a non flea-ded cat, can ka? And whats your friend method again? Spray, then comb, then mandi, then spot-on ka?
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Erm elly, if we spray just abit of frontline to a non flea-ded cat, can ka? And whats your friend method again? Spray, then comb, then mandi, then spot-on ka?
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yes can spray on cat that do not have fleas ==> in this situation, if i have money i will use "spot on" on him rather than spray. since he is not guilty for bringing fleas tongue.gif so its not a good idea to punish him with spray tongue.gif (i'm a cat, i hate spray!)

the method is:

1. spray, and wait atleast 24-48hours
2. comb the fur abit before bath..
3. bath
4. dry, and comb again to make it look perfect and to make sure all dry eggs drop and dead fleas drop.
5. Spot On (optional = if u still do not feel unsecured, like u feel fleas is still around the house, or maybe your cat is IN & OUT door, so spot on can help them).
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er, ada sesape yg potty train kucing dorg x?
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QUOTE(kamagotchi @ Oct 20 2008, 06:03 AM)
er, ada sesape yg potty train kucing dorg x?
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Aku beli Doogie's Litter Kwitter. Stakat ni yg sekor leh la guna, sekor lg x reti2 naik atas tandas. Uh.. at least berkurang sket guna crystals litter skrg. i need tips too.
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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 20 2008, 06:05 AM)
Aku ada try potty train tp setakat nie belum berjaya...ada tips2 x El? icon_question.gif
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eerrkk eheheh.. senyum sorang2 lak aku kat sini..

maybe i need to show them how to do it ahahah... imagine 15 cats seat in front me and see me doing business hua hua hua hua!

anyway i don't have any idea, i don't think i can help, because my cats tak pakai lagi technology tu... even not yet guna technology litter box yang boleh flush automatic macam robot eheheh.
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QUOTE(kamagotchi @ Oct 20 2008, 06:41 AM)
Aku beli Doogie's Litter Kwitter. Stakat ni yg sekor leh la guna, sekor lg x reti2 naik atas tandas. Uh.. at least berkurang sket guna crystals litter skrg. i need tips too.
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anyway kamagotchi, you might want to check their website. they have Training Classes :

http://www.litterkwitter.com/mediaGallery/...es.html#gallery

good luck, and hope your cat(s) graduate from the training classes with flying colors icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 20 2008, 10:20 AM)
anyway kamagotchi, you might want to check their website. they have Training Classes :

http://www.litterkwitter.com/mediaGallery/...es.html#gallery

good luck, and hope your cat(s) graduate from the training classes with flying colors  icon_rolleyes.gif
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thanks but i bought that thing including the dvd and all.. just that the smaller kitten is like frigging stupid... harap muka je kiut melampau. thanks again
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 20 2008, 07:18 AM)
eerrkk eheheh.. senyum sorang2 lak aku kat sini..

maybe i need to show them how to do it ahahah... imagine 15 cats seat in front me and see me doing business hua hua hua hua!

anyway i don't have any idea, i don't think i can help, because my cats tak pakai lagi technology tu... even not yet guna technology litter box yang boleh flush automatic macam robot eheheh.
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Haaa asal ko senyum sorang2...nie mesti ade pape nie...

Ko penah try ke? whistling.gif

Eh mana nk dpt benda nie yg dlm video tu?Ada ke kt msia nie? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 19 2008, 09:52 AM)
i always advice friends not to spend too much $$ on things.. u better concentrate more on food and vets smile.gif

like litter box, just buy the cheap container that has good height and dimension at supermarket such as carrefour, giant, tesco...

here is my DIY litter box tongue.gif cheap tongue.gif

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so why spend so much, when u can get something cheaper. besides, it will still spoil also right. the toyogo above is much more thicker than petshop litter box tongue.gif

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Litter = if u a type of cannot tahan the smell.. go get OKO PLUS.. its expensive eheheh but very good. if u have 1 / 2 cat this is still suitable.

Toys
= check the cheap one.. i get this sponge soft ball that normally baby play... i get it from Giant aswell.. RM10, for 15 soft balls  laugh.gif . last time i always like to buy this expensive petshop toys, end up destroy and some end up they don't like the expensive one. newspaper ball is their favorite. also box!!! they love box biggrin.gif

frontline = if u have fleas then you dont have other choice ehehe.. i like this brand smile.gif so much buy biggrin.gif

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= Premium food is good (easiest brands to find are Royal canin, Science Plan, and IAMS. other brand such as acana, proformance, blackwood, eagle pack, etc, pun bagus but hard to find).
if u cat afford super premium like orijen - better.

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I read someone wants cheap DIY toys for cats.

If you guys happen to go to Zoo Negara (hmm..hahaha! Bg kucing rombongan balik kampung jumpa sepupu-harimau dan singa), just go to souvenir shop there and get a 50 cents worth of peacock feather (bulu burung merak). You should get this cheap here or they probably sell it in some authentic Indian shop.

Its not only cheap, but its safe and very very pretty!

P/S: Price will differ from time to time, but it should not exceed RM3. If you guys have multiple cats, get a few!

Another game I like to play with my cats (and most of the cats I played before), is to put them on a carpet and put your fingers (or some movable objects if you wanna salvage your hand) and move it around back and forth.

Eventually my old cats already figure out that the 'thing' underneath the carpet and went straight to my hand rclxub.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 20 2008, 11:03 AM)
Haaa asal ko senyum sorang2...nie mesti ade pape nie...

Ko penah try ke? whistling.gif

Eh mana nk dpt benda nie yg dlm video tu?Ada ke kt msia nie? hmm.gif
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uh, xtau la kat msia ada ke x.. aku bukan kat msia.. maybe ada kot, gi tgk website dia
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QUOTE(kamagotchi @ Oct 20 2008, 07:50 AM)
thanks but i bought that thing including the dvd and all.. just that the smaller kitten is like frigging stupid... harap muka je kiut melampau. thanks again
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errkkkkk... i have no comment about that, although i don't enjoy much reading that sentence. LOL.

ps: kalau anak bermasalah, jangan salah kan cikgu, tapi salah kan parents tongue.gif
pps: kalau kucing bermasalah, kalau haiwan peliharaan bermasalah, jangan salahkan takdir, salah kan tuan nye tongue.gif
ppps: kalau kita gagal buat sesuatu, jangan salahkan buku/sumber, salah kan diri sendiri sebab bebal.

i'm pretty sure u need patient lah, u dealing with animal not human.

pppps: sorry for being too emo tongue.gif LOL.. i'll defensive if i hear or found or read anything harsh towards this creature. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 20 2008, 08:03 AM)
Haaa asal ko senyum sorang2...nie mesti ade pape nie...

Ko penah try ke? whistling.gif

Eh mana nk dpt benda nie yg dlm video tu?Ada ke kt msia nie? hmm.gif
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hahaha aku tak pernah try, sebab aku tak pakai benda tu.

if you read v3, ada satu part aku cakap about "COPY CAT".

kitten learn how to poo and pee by COPY CAT other cat or their mom tongue.gif

so its like, if you want your kitten to poo and pee in human toilet, they need to COPY CAT human lah tongue.gif
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A suggestion to El.

Perhaps rather than just having a name list of the Cat Lovers members, why not also include thumbnail pictures of the pets owned by them. Hmm..deceased cats pun nak include jgak ke...hehe
hey you cat! aiseey.. good idea lah.. i will try working on it. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 20 2008, 01:01 PM)
hahaha aku tak pernah try, sebab aku tak pakai benda tu.

if you read v3, ada satu part aku cakap about "COPY CAT".

kitten learn how to poo and pee by COPY CAT other cat or their mom tongue.gif

so its like, if you want your kitten to poo and pee in human toilet, they need to COPY CAT human lah tongue.gif
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Rasa cam malu jeeee nk buat camtu...dia usha lain macam nanti "tuan aku nie dh buang tebiat agaknya" laugh.gif whistling.gif
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whoa new version addi ~

hehe.... gud idea on da litter box! but i think its can b as convenience and gud as da "real" covered litter box? da "rea" 1 can take to travel rite??

ytd i juz spent rm300+ on cat foods n cat litters @@""""
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Wahhh, V4!!!

Congrats!

Wish I could be more active here like last time sad.gif

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QUOTE(kamagotchi @ Oct 20 2008, 07:50 AM)
thanks but i bought that thing including the dvd and all.. just that the smaller kitten is like frigging stupid... harap muka je kiut melampau. thanks again
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There is a training duration time to train your cats.

Unless the kitten has passed the maximum training period, then only you can say stupid lar...

Even adults can be trained to use it, apatah lagi kitten.

QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 20 2008, 08:03 AM)
Eh mana nk dpt benda nie yg dlm video tu?Ada ke kt msia nie? hmm.gif
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Litter Kwitter is available in M'sia.

Pet Epicure@Taman Melawati carries/sells it.

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 20 2008, 01:47 PM)
Unless the kitten has passed the maximum training period, then only you can say stupid lar...

Even adults can be trained to use it, apatah lagi kitten.
Litter Kwitter is available in M'sia.

Pet Epicure@Taman Melawati carries/sells it.

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Dun say stupid nanti El emo again...i don't like him when he's emo... biggrin.gif

Taman melawati?How much sis? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 20 2008, 01:47 PM)
Wahhh, V4!!!

Congrats!

Wish I could be more active here like last time sad.gif

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Added on October 20, 2008, 1:53 pm

There is a training duration time to train your cats.

Unless the kitten has passed the maximum training period, then only you can say stupid lar...

Even adults can be trained to use it, apatah lagi kitten.
Litter Kwitter is available in M'sia.

Pet Epicure@Taman Melawati carries/sells it.

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Hey you, hows oren? Any pictures? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 19 2008, 12:37 AM)
Welcome All!!!! We have new home biggrin.gif

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Check it out here => When Sky Hit The Keyboard!
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wow elf...sape nama kucing dlm gambar tu...cute lah brows.gif


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elf..taniah on the new versi(4) rclxms.gif

wow elf...sape nama kucing dlm gambar tu...cute lah brows.gif
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ooo...nama dia sky smile.gif ...very cute name for a cute cat, how old is he elf? mana dapat dia???


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hai el...

morning....Amoda lak tak sihat el...asyik bersin je...samapai terkeluar hingus...tunggu cuti nk bwk jumpe vet..


Added on October 19, 2008, 12:14 pmeL...

Klu dah neuter/spay my cats...si abang tu akan mengiau mcm slalu tak...I mean..cam skrg...kul 2-3 pagi duk terpekik2 kat tingkap panggil kcg betina kat bwh..
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cik ina...amoda cam ner skrg??? kesian kat dia... sad.gif

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Haha, nah, the little one is stupid compared to the bigger one. Okay, i'll use a better term "kurang bijak", puas?

Ini bukan masalah potty train shj, its just that in general he is pretty dense if i COMPARE both of them. I still love em both, dont ya worry mate.
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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Oct 20 2008, 03:02 PM)
ooo...nama dia sky smile.gif ...very cute name for a cute cat, how old is he elf? mana dapat dia???
yeah sky.. he's the oldest. lahir on 16th april 2004.. so 4 years old. he is adopted from a friend cool2.gif
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QUOTE(kamagotchi @ Oct 20 2008, 04:10 PM)
Haha, nah, the little one is stupid compared to the bigger one. Okay, i'll use a better term "kurang bijak", puas?

Ini bukan masalah potty train shj, its just that in general he is pretty dense if i COMPARE both of them. I still love em both, dont ya worry mate.
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all of them are smart.. just that they are slow learner...

macam manusia lah, everyone of use is smart.. tak de siapa yang bodoh/stupid kat dunia ni.. just that we are slow, lagging, macam windows 95 tongue.gif orang dah pakai Vista eheeeheh

no worry. having you buying that toilet thing pun, good already... its like showing how much you care and buy something for them thumbup.gif

ada masa snap lah gambar dorang melabur eheheh
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 20 2008, 04:31 PM)
all of them are smart.. just that they are slow learner...

macam manusia lah, everyone of use is smart.. tak de siapa yang bodoh/stupid kat dunia ni.. just that we are slow, lagging, macam windows 95 tongue.gif orang dah pakai Vista eheeeheh

no worry. having you buying that toilet thing pun, good already... its like showing how much you care and buy something for them  thumbup.gif

ada masa snap lah gambar dorang melabur eheheh
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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 20 2008, 02:06 PM)
Taman melawati?How much sis? hmm.gif
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If not mistaken, appx. RM200++

If got money, it's a good investment, especially like me staying in an apartment smile.gif

So far, all my cats are litter trained even the smallest one, but the litter particles tend to fly around and can feel then around the house when you walk.

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Hey you, hows oren? Any pictures? biggrin.gif
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Oren sihat-sihat aje biggrin.gif

Sleeps more nowadays as he grows older.

Tapi still reti bahasa...

Very much lovable as before wink.gif

Okay, here's one of the recent pixs of Oren with his rattan ball smile.gif

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El,

The cat age vs human age is true ke?

Makes the cats look really old after looking at the chart...

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Chart?Human age vs cat age chart?Where is it?
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 20 2008, 04:23 PM)
yeah sky.. he's the oldest.  lahir on 16th april 2004.. so 4 years old. he is adopted from a friend  cool2.gif
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If not mistaken, appx. RM200++

If got money, it's a good investment, especially like me staying in an apartment smile.gif

So far, all my cats are litter trained even the smallest one, but the litter particles tend to fly around and can feel then around the house when you walk.
Oren sihat-sihat aje biggrin.gif

Sleeps more nowadays as he grows older.

Tapi still reti bahasa...

Very much lovable as before wink.gif

Okay, here's one of the recent pixs of Oren with his rattan ball smile.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 20 2008, 05:29 PM)
El,

The cat age vs human age is true ke?

Makes the cats look really old after looking at the chart...

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yeah its true. u can google cat vs. human age for other source.

that's how they determine cat health problem, by reflecting it to our age and health.

clear example is o average, male cat will start to get on heat at the age of 8 months, which is 13 years old of human age (which average of most human to get sexual attract = duh! kids nowadays ehehehe)
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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 20 2008, 05:44 PM)
Chart?Human age vs cat age chart?Where is it?
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ada dekat first post of the thread..

". Cat Age & Human Age Conversion Chart? ."
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ps* napa nama aku tak masuk dalam list lagi pom

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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Oct 20 2008, 05:49 PM)
elf...upload lah pic2 anak2 kamu yg lain smile.gif so far dapat berkenalan gan si Mia and si Sky jer???
apasal anak2 kamu yg lain tu low profile ker??? hmm.gif
if u check version 2, version 3 .. memang dah pernah letak kat situ. its just that, we are using forum kind of thing, so abit hard and lazy to track back...

some pictures at my blog:

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http://el.freakzter.com/2007/12/my-fur-kid-gabriella-gabby/

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QUOTE(mazdagtr210 @ Oct 20 2008, 07:05 PM)
ps* napa nama aku tak masuk dalam list lagi pom

coco dan oren sedang santai
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ok add your name to the list smile.gif

wah itu nama nya gedik santai smile.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Oct 20 2008, 05:49 PM)
elf...upload lah pic2 anak2 kamu yg lain smile.gif so far dapat berkenalan gan si Mia and si Sky jer???
apasal anak2 kamu yg lain tu low profile ker??? hmm.gif


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hahahaha...he is looking sooo comel, dah ler muka inocent plak tu biggrin.gif
posing maut tu...leh jadi super model lah katakan rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 20 2008, 07:07 PM)
if u check version 2, version 3 .. memang dah pernah letak kat situ. its just that, we are using forum kind of thing, so abit hard and lazy to track back...

some pictures at my blog:

http://el.freakzter.com/2008/09/september-is-the-cats-month/

http://el.freakzter.com/2007/12/my-fur-kid-gabriella-gabby/
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 20 2008, 05:26 PM)
If not mistaken, appx. RM200++

If got money, it's a good investment, especially like me staying in an apartment smile.gif

So far, all my cats are litter trained even the smallest one, but the litter particles tend to fly around and can feel then around the house when you walk.
Oren sihat-sihat aje biggrin.gif

Sleeps more nowadays as he grows older.

Tapi still reti bahasa...

Very much lovable as before wink.gif

Okay, here's one of the recent pixs of Oren with his rattan ball smile.gif

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Btw, any good supplement for me to mix with the kibbles? And how to mix it? Lol.
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El, aku xpaham la chart tu...1 bulan kucing sama ngn 5-6 bulan kita?Biar betik?

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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 20 2008, 08:18 PM)
El, aku xpaham la chart tu...1 bulan kucing sama ngn 5-6 bulan kita?Biar betik?
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kitten umur 1 bulan, bersamaan dengan 5-6 bulan umur kita (which is tadika gitu lah).

want to know why? on average - human baby start growing teeth at the age of 5-6 months (p/s some earlier, some later, but 5-6 months is the average).

so this reflects to kitten, kitten start to teething at the age 1 months where u can start seeing white color thing on their gum.

so can you get the rough idea about cat age and human age?
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KP, after doing 1 year of study and research on cat genetic (base on fur length), i have come out with answer...

last time you said u don't know why oren is semi long because you adopted him right? from my research, it is obviously he is mix of long hair. but not both parents are long hair. one of the male or female must be long hair, and another one short hair. the the outcome you will get some short hair kitten and some short hair with bushy tails.

semi long hair on the other hair, and slightly long fur than oren.

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if, male/female long hair + male/female short hair (memang asal bulu pendek - other word pure kucing kampung), = kitten will be short hair, and short hair with bushy tail.

ok.. now let say OREN kahwin...so now OREN is short hair with bushy tail, dia secara tak langsung ada membawa genetik bulu panjang dalam badan dia, which is from his father (example), bila OREN kahwin dengan betina yang berbulu panjang, potential outcome will get long hair, and akan still ada short hair with bushy tail or short hair like british short hair pun coat (pendek but tebal).

from my research and study, on average kitten male akan dapat long hair, or at least bushy tail. while most female kitten yang datang dari hasil kahwin campur akan dapat short hair, and very less of them with bushy tail.

p/s this is the current result of my research, it may change from time to time.. i know 1 year of cat research is not enough tongue.gif it can be fact, it can be kebetulan.

p/s i have no guarantee of this. PLEASE DON'T TRY THIS METHOD AT HOME! i'm just sharing the information and knowledge, not asking u people start breeding, unless you all ready untuk menimang cucu tongue.gif

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one of my 5 months old kittens has been diagnosed of having feline flu cry.gif

dunno how it happened though...mebe through contact with the new kittens..stupid of me mixing them together cry.gif

the doc said that she's only having the 1st stage virus...but i read that the virus won't go away once a cat has been infected..correct ar?

i've separated her from the other cats...but how do i prevent the virus from spreading through contact with clothing?

oh yeah..the doc vaccinated the 6 weeks kittens just now..dunno why..


Added on October 20, 2008, 9:08 pmIt is also important that feeding bowls and litter trays are kept for infected cats and not used for other cats. Also the bedding of infected cats should be destroyed after they have recovered. Disposable plates are available or can be improvised from microwaveable food readimeal containers.
People handling cats with ’flu should wear disposable gloves which are kept for each cat. If cats are picked up and cuddled, plastic aprons or an overall, which is kept solely for infected cats, should be worn.
For outbreaks that are difficult to eradicate, plastic over-boots should be used in the area where the infected cats are kept.


taken from one of the site...wala wei...have to find apron now...

one who had experience b4...how do u guys handle it?

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 20 2008, 05:26 PM)
If not mistaken, appx. RM200++

If got money, it's a good investment, especially like me staying in an apartment smile.gif

So far, all my cats are litter trained even the smallest one, but the litter particles tend to fly around and can feel then around the house when you walk.
Oren sihat-sihat aje biggrin.gif

Sleeps more nowadays as he grows older.

Tapi still reti bahasa...

Very much lovable as before wink.gif

Okay, here's one of the recent pixs of Oren with his rattan ball smile.gif

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where's another one?
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Oct 20 2008, 08:53 PM)
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QUOTE(mizeily @ Oct 20 2008, 09:00 PM)
one of my 5 months old kittens has been diagnosed of having feline flu cry.gif

dunno how it happened though...mebe through contact with the new kittens..stupid of me mixing them together  cry.gif

the doc said that she's only having the 1st stage virus...but i read that the virus won't go away once a cat has been infected..correct ar?

i've separated her from the other cats...but how do i prevent the virus from spreading through contact with clothing?

oh yeah..the doc vaccinated the 6 weeks kittens just now..dunno why..


Added on October 20, 2008, 9:08 pmIt is also important that feeding bowls and litter trays are kept for infected cats and not used for other cats. Also the bedding of infected cats should be destroyed after they have recovered. Disposable plates are available or can be improvised from microwaveable food readimeal containers.
People handling cats with ’flu should wear disposable gloves which are kept for each cat. If cats are picked up and cuddled, plastic aprons or an overall, which is kept solely for infected cats, should be worn.
For outbreaks that are difficult to eradicate, plastic over-boots should be used in the area where the infected cats are kept.


taken from one of the site...wala wei...have to find apron now...

one who had experience b4...how do u guys handle it?
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sorry to hear about that feline flu. it can be dangerous if no early action.

what virus anyway? the name of the virus?

the doc vaccinated the 6 weeks kittens just now..dunno why.. ==> eerrkk the age 6 weeks is your estimation or the correct age? if estimation, the vet might detect that your kitten is more than 2 months (they detect it by looking at the teeth, and weight).

you can check this site for info...
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Feline Vaccination Guidelines

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sorry to hear about that feline flu. it can be dangerous if no early action.

what virus anyway? the name of the virus?

the doc vaccinated the 6 weeks kittens just now..dunno why.. ==> eerrkk the age 6 weeks is your estimation or the correct age? if estimation, the vet might detect that your kitten is more than 2 months (they detect it by looking at the teeth, and weight).

you can check this site for info...
Cat Vaccines
Feline Vaccination Guidelines
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the first vet i went to on saturday told me to bring back the kittens in 2 weeks time for vaccination...so i guess they are not 2 months yet.. (erm...4 weeks = 1 month rite? ) then the doc i went to today, which was a diff doc and clinic, said they're about 2 months ++ (he's estimation..)

i dun even know if my cat has really the virus since after i google -ed cat flu, i dun c any symptoms on my cat pun...xcept she muntah yellowish-greenish liquid this afternoon..

i'm planning to take her to another vet tomorow to get a second opinion...watcha think?
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the first vet i went to on saturday told me to bring back the kittens in 2 weeks time for vaccination...so i guess they are not 2 months yet.. (erm...4 weeks = 1 month rite? ) then the doc i went to today, which was a diff doc and clinic, said they're about 2 months ++ (he's estimation..)

i dun even know if my cat has really the virus since after i google -ed cat flu, i dun c any symptoms on my cat pun...xcept she muntah yellowish-greenish liquid this afternoon..

i'm planning to take her to another vet tomorow to get a second opinion...watcha think?
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the first vet maybe:
- did not know how to check and guess the roughly age.
- or, vet tu tak berani nak vaccine because the kitten is sick.
- they asking you to bring in another 2 weeks time, because of your estimated age (which they don't know how to check), and maybe to wait for your kitten cure from sick then vaccine.

the second vet:
- maybe they have much experience in handling kittens. so when u always handle and care for kitten, automatic you can know the age.
- most feline flu cases, require to be vaccine immediate (that why the 2nd vet do it). because feline flu consist one of the virus that only vaccine can slow down/kill.
- im pretty sure the vet check everything, and conclude that, your kitten is healthy just just other kitten, just that he/she carry flu (feline flu).


Just like FIP/FIV its very hard to detect if they have this virus, unless u diagnose with medical check up. because the cat with this virus will still be like normal healthy cat.

since you already went to SECOND VET today, don't go to any third, fourth, fifth.

why? because the 2nd vet vaccine your kitten today. so you need to give sometimes for that vaccine to do its job towards the kitten. if you bring to other vet tomorrow, it won't give any changes because im sure other vet won't dare to give medicine or inject anything if the kitten is vaccine today.

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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Oct 20 2008, 07:15 PM)
alaa...si ash dah tak online lak...td ade...


Added on October 20, 2008, 7:25 pmash...

amoda xok...asyik selsema...skjp ok jap ko...sian die...


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El...tgk kucing ni...teringat kucing I kat rumah mak...dah dkt 10 thn I jage die..
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saya nie cam ala2 chipsmore cookies cik ina...kejap ada kejap xder tongue.gif saya pie melayan kerenah anak2 saya nie ah!!! rclxub.gif habis satu pasu bunga pecah vmad.gif dah lah baru semalam saya mandikan sekarang dah comot balik vmad.gif esh esh esh!!! doh.gif

kesian nyer si amoda tu sad.gif ...baik bawak dia pie jumpa vet cepat2...takut takut tambah serius plak and mana tau jangkit pada anak2 yg lain plak??? cik ina kuarantin dia ker??? hmm.gif


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QUOTE(abang brother @ Oct 20 2008, 07:38 PM)
I really love Mia. Her face is fierce just like Tyra would say and still beautiful. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 20 2008, 07:07 PM)
if u check version 2, version 3 .. memang dah pernah letak kat situ. its just that, we are using forum kind of thing, so abit hard and lazy to track back...

some pictures at my blog:

http://el.freakzter.com/2008/09/september-is-the-cats-month/

http://el.freakzter.com/2007/12/my-fur-kid-gabriella-gabby/
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yes2 ure rite...mmg malas!!! doh.gif lagi2 musim hujan bertambah malas saya nie... blush.gif

wow...Sky realy looks hensem, the corak kat muka dia tu mmg lawa smile.gif and si gaby...wow!!!her fur tone mmg lawa, a very soft pale brown colour...dah jatuh cinta wub.gif ...alamat rumah apa ek??? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 20 2008, 10:44 PM)
the first vet maybe:
- did not know how to check and guess the roughly age.
- or, vet tu tak berani nak vaccine because the kitten is sick.
- they asking you to bring in another 2 weeks time, because of your estimated age (which they don't know how to check),  and maybe to wait for your kitten cure from sick then vaccine.

the second vet:
- maybe they have much experience in handling kittens. so when u always handle and care for kitten, automatic you can know the age.
- most feline flu cases, require to be vaccine immediate (that why the 2nd vet do it). because feline flu consist one of the virus that only vaccine can slow down/kill.
- im pretty sure the vet check everything, and conclude that, your kitten is healthy just just other kitten, just that he/she carry flu (feline flu).
Just like FIP/FIV its very hard to detect if they have this virus, unless u diagnose with medical check up. because the cat with this virus will still be like normal healthy cat.

since you already went to SECOND VET today, don't go to any third, fourth, fifth.

why? because the 2nd vet vaccine your kitten today. so you need to give sometimes for that vaccine to do its job towards the kitten. if you bring to other vet tomorrow, it won't give any changes because im sure other vet won't dare to give medicine or inject anything if the kitten is vaccine today.
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ow..ok...will wait..just i'm worried if she does have the flu, I'll infect the other cats since i'm always cuddling them
doh.gif

but the one who was diagnosed with feline flu was the 5monts old one...who had completed her 3 months jab late last month...just to make it clear to u lah..kut u confuse since i kept referring them as kittens tongue.gif the doc said that she had a runny nose..tp i x nmpk pun unsure.gif so he diagnosed her as having feline flu..then he injected her..lupe nk tyn wit what...

xpe2..i'll stick to ur advice, finish the given antibiotics and wait for a while..and pray hard she'll get better..hehe..

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ow..ok...will wait..just i'm worried if she does have the flu, I'll infect the other cats since i'm always cuddling them
doh.gif

but the one who was diagnosed with feline flu was the 5monts old one...who had completed her 3 months jab late last month...just to make it clear to u lah..kut u confuse since i kept referring them as kittens tongue.gif the doc said that she had a runny nose..tp i x nmpk pun  unsure.gif so he diagnosed her as having feline flu..then he injected her..lupe nk tyn wit what...

xpe2..i'll stick to ur advice, finish the given antibiotics and wait for a while..and pray hard she'll get better..hehe..
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kalau betul that 5 months old kitten kena feline flu, it will effect other kitten yang belum di vaccine.

you should have ask what injection he give to your kitten.

it is very important to know all this. masuk keluar vet does not mean 100% terus ok.

i might be alil bit "not cool" to the vet because i will ask them to write down on another paper what they have written in my cat medical book. or i will ask them to photocopy it and give it to me before i pay. and will always ask for receipt bill with full description of they they charge and the medicine given.

i have gone through like you last time. sampai 4 vet, and the kitten i resuce end up dying. imagine 4 vets.. not all vet is good.. not all vet know about cats.. not all vet confident with what they are doing.

from my point of view, i dont think he injected vaccine again.. mungkin it was a booster.
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Booster tu ape El?Function dia ntuk apa?
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Booster tu ape El?Function dia ntuk apa?
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kalau in western country booster is also the same thing as vaccine. which sometimes abit confusing. booster can also be injection untuk menguatkan vaccine yang di beri.

what ever it is, i put it as, vaccine is vaccine, booster is penguat something like supplement.
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Oct 20 2008, 07:57 PM)
GOD! He is still like a ball. ohmy.gif rclxms.gif

Btw, any good supplement for me to mix with the kibbles? And how to mix it? Lol.
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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Oct 20 2008, 10:53 PM)
saya nie cam ala2 chipsmore cookies cik ina...kejap ada kejap xder tongue.gif saya pie melayan kerenah anak2 saya nie ah!!! rclxub.gif habis satu pasu bunga pecah vmad.gif dah lah baru semalam saya mandikan sekarang dah comot balik vmad.gif  esh esh esh!!! doh.gif

kesian nyer si amoda tu sad.gif ...baik bawak dia pie jumpa vet cepat2...takut takut tambah serius plak and mana tau jangkit pada anak2 yg lain plak??? cik ina kuarantin dia ker??? hmm.gif


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abg brother...tyra mana??? tyra banks ker??? hmm.gif


Added on October 20, 2008, 10:59 pm
yes2 ure rite...mmg malas!!! doh.gif lagi2 musim hujan bertambah malas saya nie... blush.gif

wow...Sky realy looks hensem, the corak kat muka dia tu mmg lawa smile.gif  and si gaby...wow!!!her fur tone mmg lawa, a very soft pale brown colour...dah jatuh cinta wub.gif ...alamat rumah apa ek??? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 20 2008, 11:26 PM)
kalau betul that 5 months old kitten kena feline flu, it will effect other kitten yang belum di vaccine.

you should have ask what injection he give to your kitten.

it is very important to know all this. masuk keluar vet does not mean 100% terus ok.

i might be alil bit "not cool" to the vet because i will ask them to write down on another paper what they have written in my cat medical book. or i will ask them to photocopy it and give it to me before i pay. and will always ask for receipt bill with full description of they they charge and the medicine given.

i have gone through like you last time. sampai 4 vet, and the kitten i resuce end up dying. imagine 4 vets.. not all vet is good.. not all vet know about cats.. not all vet confident with what they are doing.

from my point of view, i dont think he injected vaccine again.. mungkin it was a booster.
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ya..my mistake not asking him wat he had injected...but i learned yesterday that never bring a lot of kittens into the examination room at once..that y so kelam kabut yesterday.. rclxub.gif

oh yeah...the 5 months kittens ( call her by her name lah....mayones...) she muntah lagi this morning...bout half n hour after i gave her her antibiotics...b4 that she was foaming a lot... sad.gif yesterday after the injection she was foaming too...but the doctor said that was normal..

dunno lah wat to do.. cry.gif
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ya..my mistake not asking him wat he had injected...but i learned yesterday that never bring a lot of kittens into the examination room at once..that y so kelam kabut yesterday..  rclxub.gif

oh yeah...the 5 months kittens ( call her by her name lah....mayones...) she muntah lagi this morning...bout half n hour after i gave her her antibiotics...b4 that she was foaming a lot... sad.gif yesterday after the injection she was foaming too...but the doctor said that was normal..

dunno lah wat to do..  cry.gif
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what is mayones eating now?? food brand??

try to give ayam rebus.. u buy bahagian dada, then rebus dengan air kosong saja... rebus kejap je, jangan lama2 sampai kering daging tu...

then cincang2 halus halus, bagi dia makan. sup tu dia dia minum bila dah sejuk...

try dont feed kibbles tu dulu.. see if improve or not..
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kak ina, mcmn dengan kesihatan amoda skrg??
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melekat terus nama amoda tu kan ehehe

spanish sangat nama tu.. "amoda monanza vaganza doboom" wub.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 21 2008, 01:03 PM)
what is mayones eating now?? food brand??

try to give ayam rebus.. u buy bahagian dada, then rebus dengan air kosong saja... rebus kejap je, jangan lama2 sampai kering daging tu...

then cincang2 halus halus, bagi dia makan. sup tu dia dia minum bila dah sejuk...

try dont feed kibbles tu dulu.. see if improve or not..
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she's eating eaglepack holistics series..

ayam rebus...okies..will do it tonite..i put her in a cage b4 going to work today...in case she muntah again..at least won't be merata2 tongue.gif


BTW, how did u cut the toyogo-made into litter box eh? special cutter is it?
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she's eating eaglepack holistics series..

ayam rebus...okies..will do it tonite..i put her in a cage b4 going to work today...in case she muntah again..at least won't be merata2 tongue.gif
BTW, how did u cut the toyogo-made into litter box eh? special cutter is it?
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yea bagi ayam rebus dulu.. since your cat is demam, dia mungkin tak selera or rasa mual makan eaglepack holistics (produk2 makanan kan tinggin in proten & fat, sbb tu rasa muak bila makan - if demamlah).

toyogo tu kena dua org buat. lukis dulu bentuk dia.. jangan rendah sgt, nanti pasir terkeluar. then kalo dah lukis 4 segi tu, tebuk line tu with driller.. mungkin 4-5 lobang for each lines. then guna pisau yang kuat, jangan guna pen knife..
be careful, takut toyogo tu pecah lak..
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 21 2008, 02:27 PM)
yea bagi ayam rebus dulu.. since your cat is demam, dia mungkin tak selera or rasa mual makan eaglepack holistics (produk2 makanan kan tinggin in proten & fat, sbb tu rasa muak bila makan - if demamlah).

toyogo tu kena dua org buat. lukis dulu bentuk dia.. jangan rendah sgt, nanti pasir terkeluar. then kalo dah lukis 4 segi tu, tebuk line tu with driller.. mungkin 4-5 lobang for each lines. then guna pisau yang kuat, jangan guna pen knife..
be careful, takut toyogo tu pecah lak..
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sian die mual..xpe..i'll give her the chickien tonite..but if die xmau mkn camne?


k..will try to find a drill later...n try this DIY litter box...since my bro bising letak kucing2 kecik dlm toilet at nite (dun worrry elf..i dah masukkn every chemicals in toyogo box n shut it tight smile.gif ) berbau die kate... sad.gif


dulu2 when i 1st use fussie cat litter, the pee easily clumps..but i noticed these days x plak..jd berkecai kecik...wat happen eh? do u have the same prob?


Added on October 21, 2008, 2:52 pmha..lupe lak...

my new kitten ar, got this weird habit after going to toilet..she'll like sit down on the floor n start dragging her butt across the floor..mau clean up kut..but then why ar? dont they usually lick themselves ke?

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QUOTE(mizeily @ Oct 21 2008, 02:33 PM)
dulu2 when i 1st use fussie cat litter, the pee easily clumps..but i noticed these days x plak..jd berkecai kecik...wat happen eh? do u have the same prob?


Added on October 21, 2008, 2:52 pmha..lupe lak...

my new kitten ar, got this weird habit after going to toilet..she'll like sit down on the floor n start dragging her butt across the floor..mau clean up kut..but then why ar? dont they usually lick themselves ke?
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i pun found out the fussie cat litter kadang2 clump, kadang2 clump but tak keras. first i though there's must be problem with that brand.

but lepas pikir2 balik, i found that, yg clump (lembut macam pasir) is the new pee.. else kalau yang lama baru keras clumping dia. so kebetulan yang kita cedok tu dia the new pee, so dia tak keras betul lagi.

another thing, kalo kucing kencing but tak cover kencing dia dengan pasir, it wont be as hard as the one yang kena cover.

tips is, bila you nak cedok pee to, move your litter to the left and right. example, when u mengiring kan ke kanan, pasir kan ke kanan but it will leave the clump on the left right.. so baru u cedok. jangan cedok bersama pasir yang bagus lak.. nanti bila clump tu pecah, dia jadi bercampur. after u cedok the pee on left, then u move the box to the left pula, and all pasir go to the left, and cedok the pee on the right. (not sure if u faham ke tak, i bet you pun buat cara ni kan).

some of my cat like to sleep in toilet of the dry floor. but not during wet tongue.gif dia kata sejuk lantai ni tongue.gif
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El, my cat is not eating...what to do?
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No...the daddy...since this morning...and he's been sleeping all the time...
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yay elf... rclxm9.gif

mayones doesnt have the flu!!! smile.gif flex.gif

went to the usual vet at seksyen 13 last nite to double check her..n the vet said she's clean... rclxms.gif

just having an upset stomach...mebe due to picking up things on the floor...notty girl lah that cat...ntah2 mkn lipas sad.gif

anyways..he gave her probiotics and antibiotics..told me to stop giving the previous antibiotics..and feed her with boiled chicken...

so far she's not eating much.se first lah smile.gif
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hi guys... it's been a while since i dropped few posts.. one of my cat, bulu die gugur laaa... a lot.. which upset me, and now bulu die da tak fluffy mcm dulu. whoaaaaa sedey!! cry.gif

still remember them??? so here they are... rclxms.gif

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No...the daddy...since this morning...and he's been sleeping all the time...
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kurang sihat. semua kucing akan lalui benda ni. even my cats, throughout the year, mesti akan kena. duduk siam (yang ala ala kesejukan), tak ada mood, kurang makanan, diam jee sepanjang hari. but after 24-48 hours dia ok balik macam biasa. you need to find ways to make him eat. like the boiled chicken smile.gif
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QUOTE(mizeily @ Oct 22 2008, 08:50 AM)
yay elf...  rclxm9.gif

mayones doesnt have the flu!!! smile.gif flex.gif

went to the usual vet at seksyen 13 last nite to double check her..n the vet said she's clean...  rclxms.gif

just having an upset stomach...mebe due to picking up things on the floor...notty girl lah that cat...ntah2 mkn lipas sad.gif

anyways..he gave her probiotics and antibiotics..told me to stop giving the previous antibiotics..and feed her with boiled chicken...

so far she's not eating much.se first lah smile.gif
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good to hear that biggrin.gif

so what can u conclude here? eheheh u went to like 3 vets right.. like i told u before, different vet different views ehheheeh. that's why i have hard time to trust them.

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QUOTE(ChiCk a FliCk @ Oct 22 2008, 12:50 PM)
hi guys... it's been a while since i dropped few posts.. one of my cat, bulu die gugur laaa... a lot.. which upset me, and now bulu die da tak fluffy mcm dulu. whoaaaaa sedey!!  cry.gif

still remember them??? so here they are...  rclxms.gif

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yang mana bulu gugur tu? yang color hitam tu?
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Bawak jalan² camtu dia xtakut ke?
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 22 2008, 02:20 PM)
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nope... another one.. she still gemok but not fluffy like b4.. sad.gif
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Bawak jalan² camtu dia xtakut ke?
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QUOTE(kamagotchi @ Oct 22 2008, 02:25 PM)
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Best nyer bawak2 jalan kat Sydney.

Mahal ke barang kucing situ?
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QUOTE(kamagotchi @ Oct 22 2008, 02:25 PM)
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OMG.. look kat ur cat!!! very the very ganass meyh his face!! tongue.gif

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Haha, garang, thanks to Photoshop.
Barang2 sini ok-lah kalo ikut harga sini.. tp kalo comparekan value dgn RM, mahal jugak la... but if i am to compare everything to RM, i might just starve to death, metaphorically..
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 22 2008, 02:14 PM)
good to hear that  biggrin.gif

so what can u conclude here? eheheh u went to like 3 vets right.. like i told u before, different vet different views ehheheeh. that's why i have hard time to trust them.
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conclusion ar...

1..never bring lots of cats together into the examination room cuz u'll get confuse with all of the commotions then u'll 4get to ask important stuffs to the vet

2..bring the cats to ur trusted, and usual vet tongue.gif

3..ask elfreakz 4 help n adviced thumbup.gif

ps..i only brought mayones to 2 vets only..hehe...

the 1st vet was for lola (she's the small 6 weeks kitten )


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kak ina, mcmn dengan kesihatan amoda skrg??
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amoda dah tak bersin lagi...

tapi kan el...


apasal kdg2 kat dlm hidung die, bl die trk nfs cam ade bunyi kahaak ek???

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I have a 2 years old neutered male British Short Hair. Can I get a female maine coon 2 year old less into my apartment? No quarrel? any potential problem? toilet bowl separate? share? sorry i don't know much but planning to get a maine coon.
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QUOTE(mizeily @ Oct 22 2008, 05:49 PM)
conclusion ar...

1..never bring lots of cats together into the examination room cuz u'll get confuse with all of the commotions then u'll 4get to ask important stuffs to the vet

2..bring the cats to ur trusted, and usual vet tongue.gif

3..ask elfreakz 4 help n adviced  thumbup.gif

ps..i only brought mayones to 2 vets only..hehe...

the 1st vet was for lola (she's the small 6 weeks kitten )
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yea its very important to stick to 1 vets, because u have all your cats record and health history in the same place. and very important to find the vets u trust the most.

how to gain trust? easy... ask lots of question, make sure they answer it perfectly, rather than "uhmm.. uhmm", "i think..." or "maybe...." eheheheh

after you get their answer, go back home, and start doing research with google. and see if your vets has similar answer to what google search.
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Oct 22 2008, 06:18 PM)
amoda dah tak bersin lagi...

tapi kan el...
apasal kdg2 kat dlm hidung die, bl die trk nfs cam ade bunyi kahaak ek???
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errkk berapa lama dah ni?

the only best way is to visit your vet, macam "mizeily" buat.
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I have a 2 years old neutered male British Short Hair. Can I get a female maine coon 2 year old less into my apartment? No quarrel? any potential problem? toilet bowl separate? share? sorry i don't know much but planning to get a maine coon.
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behavior prediction is hard... different cats different style..

your BSH, ever meet any cat or stay with other cat before?
if yes, then he might not have problem.... since he is also neutered, so they are more calm.
if not, he might get shock at first, but will slow down later (but may not)...

most situation there will be no problem occur to long for male vs. female..

but again its very hard to predict. i have 15 cats, and they are all different style and attitude.. so.. that's mean "the never ending story" tongue.gif
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errkk berapa lama dah ni?

the only best way is to visit your vet, macam "mizeily" buat.
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baru smlm...esk br nk gi vet..esk i cuti..

knp slalunye ek??bahaya ke?

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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Oct 22 2008, 06:53 PM)
baru smlm...esk br nk gi vet..esk i cuti..

knp slalunye ek??bahaya ke?
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sometimes alahan makanan.. sometimes keadaan sekitar (jangkitan atau allergy pada keadaan persekitaran).. macam kita juga, ada tak boleh makan seafood, ada tak boleh kena debu...

hmm keturunan tak sihat.. macam kita juga, ada asma, ada sakit lelah.

vaccine is needed kalau dia belum di vaksin, untuk menguatkan badan.
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cantiknya gambar ni..

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Lst two weeks they were hit with flu, didnt want to eat. so i pujuk them with boiled fish. now they are already better, they dun wantr any more kibble. i think should be okay rite, as long as i boil the fish?
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QUOTE(kamagotchi @ Oct 22 2008, 02:25 PM)
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Chibie is adorable! wub.gif

I can't seem to train mine to walk on leash. Bila pakai kan leash, terus lumpuh tak nak gerak doh.gif

Do you train Chibie from small?

I have a new kitten - Abu, wanna train him lar, but so far not so successful.

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 23 2008, 02:22 PM)
Chibie is adorable! wub.gif

I can't seem to train mine to walk on leash. Bila pakai kan leash, terus lumpuh tak nak gerak doh.gif

Do you train Chibie from small?

I have a new kitten - Abu, wanna train him lar, but so far not so successful.

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Thanks. He is pretty cute, I guess.
Dia masih kecik jugak, about 14/15 weeks. Leash tu without the harness, biarkan dia pakai sampai dia biasa.
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QUOTE(kamagotchi @ Oct 23 2008, 01:14 PM)
Thanks. He is pretty cute, I guess.
Dia masih kecik jugak, about 14/15 weeks. Leash tu without the harness, biarkan dia pakai sampai dia biasa.
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Haha, I love tabbies smile.gif

Yeah, harness memang confirm tak leh pakai...

With Oren, attach the leash to the collar pun, tak leh jalan...

With Abu, attach the leash to the collar, he wants to play with the leash doh.gif

Oren is 1 yr +++

Abu is appx. 3 months +

Almost same with Chibie I guess. But Chibie looks bigger!

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Oct 23 2008, 09:43 AM)
Lst two weeks they were hit with flu, didnt want to eat. so i pujuk them with boiled fish. now they are already better, they dun wantr any more kibble. i think should be okay rite, as long as i boil the fish?
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fish is a very low fat food. so i do not like feeding fish source of food as daily food. fish alone is not a natural diet for cats.

Fish-based foods can cause EGC allergic in cat, as they can aggravate allergies.

Some fish oil is good for cat, but remember, Cats can not process all the oil in fish and if given too much can loose
their hair.

I think there is concern with increased levels of mercury and selenium if fish comprises a major part of the cat's diet. There is nothing wrong with some use of fish, but it is better to vary the diet with chicken, turkey, lamb, etc.

you can feed them fish but not as daily food. like maybe sometimes online.. which means, like feeding fish just for treat.

for example TUNA. Tuna has omega fatty acids far to high for them will clog thier livers and cause kidney issues. Tuna can have levels of mercury that might be harmful if fed too often to small animals like cats.

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Chibie looks bigger because of all those fluff on him I think. He's really tiny.
Urm, I guess you should just put the leash til ur cats become familiar with them. The other cat (20+ weeks old) is kinda used to it as well though at first didnt even budge with the leash strapped on her.
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kak ina, amoda dah sihat??
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kak ina, amoda dah sihat??
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ok sikit...dah kasi ubat..dien..silver camne??
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PANADOL IS POISON TO CATS

my 2 months old kitten is in hospital now due to panadol poisoning... sad.gif

one of my relative fed it with panadol water hoping to cure the fever...

luckily we found out earlier and the vet said still possible for her to recover..but she might also die tmr morning... cry.gif cry.gif

lets hope she can fight it thru!!!

if u guys didnt know, the panadol will attack the liver, nerve system, blood and brains...my kitten cant walk at all and just lie down with the legs in weird positions...the gums was all white and the eye ball keep moving up down...

sighh....
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QUOTE(stratocaster @ Oct 25 2008, 11:19 PM)
PANADOL IS POISON TO CATS

my 2 months old kitten is in hospital now due to panadol poisoning... sad.gif

one of my relative fed it with panadol water hoping to cure the fever...

luckily we found out earlier and the vet said still possible for her to recover..but she might also die tmr morning... cry.gif  cry.gif

lets hope she can fight it thru!!!

if u guys didnt know, the panadol will attack the liver, nerve system, blood and brains...my kitten cant walk at all and just lie down with the legs in weird positions...the gums was all white and the eye ball keep moving up down...

sighh....
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it is so obvious a poison...

human eat 1 tablet of panadol will get body reaction (i mean cure)... which means 1 tablet is enough to cure human body.

you imagine a cat with a very very small body swallow 1 table of panadol, which is like over dose. for sure it will give side effect to the small body and attack all the system which cause system to stop slowly or immediately.

sorry to hear bout the kitten sad.gif


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Sorry to hear that.

Gosh i hate my family, when i told them about this, they were just like, "ALL LIES!" . I was like huh? Even a vet said so. Then they were like "They want us to buy their stuff!" . Its like talking to a 2 year old.

Panadol also can cause drooling and etc. I forgetten . sleep.gif
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Oct 26 2008, 02:47 AM)
Sorry to hear that.

Gosh i hate my family, when i told them about this, they were just like, "ALL LIES!" . I was like huh? Even a vet said so. Then they were like "They want us to buy their stuff!" . Its like talking to a 2 year old.

Panadol also can cause drooling and etc. I forgetten . sleep.gif
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eheheh don't hate your family about all this. they just do not read the fact. im pretty sure if they spend more time reading and research, they will understand.

it is so obvious and command sense like i said before right. 1 tablet can cure human body, how if a cat with a very small body swallow 1 tablet. it like giving 1 panadol to a new born baby. even if you read the back pack, it is not recommended for children. children has their own kind of panadol, not as strong as adult panadol.

still, don't feed cat with children panadol tongue.gif it is still a killer tongue.gif

p/s human and cat body system is not the same, although our sickness like kidney problem, bladder, heart, etc are the same.

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Still won't. sleep.gif Only my sister does understand.

I think i want to send my cat grooming, damm alot of luka kering on his body. sleep.gif
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kat sane grooming berape RM??

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hai semua
lama menyepi
my cat sudah besar sekarang
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Yes 2 month break, now dapat spend time dgn kambing2ku.

Nih Kiki

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Bila pulang dier ade luka kat tepi muka so skang dier dah dicollar kan. Sedey giler tgk, ntah die makan ker tak, yg pasti dier marah dgn kitaorg lar pasal letak collar tuh.

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Nih lak Abby, balik rumah setakat nak tido dan makan jer.

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^ oh man..beautiful kitties you got there
the cat in the second pic looks like its crying..poor kitteh ;_;
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Yeah i took the collar off i can't bare to look at her, if the wound doesn't heal i will have to put it back on.
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Tonight, i got a big war with FLEAS!
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hi all at lovers.
long time not online..pretty bz..
hope everyone is heppi with ur furballs..
look at chibbie pic just now..
really2 cute... rclxms.gif
keep this thread alive..
have a nice day all cat lovers.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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holla im new here smile.gif just wanna share my cute + cheerfull cat called LV smile.gif...why i call him lv?hehehe its becoz my gf give him thats name coz she like the brand LOUIS VUITTON so much lol...


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oren, coco dan comot sedang bersukaria



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@zangetsu
welcome to this thread..
ur LV so cute..
like the name itself..
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so good to see the video..
fell like wanna have them in my house..hehehehe
cute kittens u got there.. rclxms.gif
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Help!!
semalam anak kucing tersangkut dalam kereta (bawah enjin , somewhere around the hose thing) kaki tersepit
and putus 2 jari kaki belakang. what should i do now? kitten tu harini macam tak bermaya. mama kitten tu
tah gi mana , sibuk ngan jantan lain. what should i do what should i do unsure.gif cry.gif
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OMG! Send it to the vet! Check whether theres something wrong! FAST FAST
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applied minyak gamat last night. no time to send to the vet sebab skang kat office T_T
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how is the kitten??
taken to vet??
really in bad condition..
please update in this thread..
want to know the progress..
hope that the kitten will be fine..
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When you come back from the office, go back, get the kitten, accelerate to the vet. ASAP!
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Hi all.. this is the first time i m posting something here.. i got a cat.. but i didnt know what is his gen whatsoever.. i found him at some one home, and decide to take care of him.. his name is ROMI and i dont even know how old he is.. any suggestion?? heh.. btw, he got hairball problem coz of his long fur.. any suggestion on what should i do.. Thx


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oh wow.. i never been here before.
@_@
my family had been keeping cats since few generations back. my mother's side's ancestors had been keeping cats all their lives.
never bought any. they just..i dunno, came to our house whenever there arent anymore cats (died, runaway..u know, stuff) and they just stayed.

currently got a mom cat and her 2 kittens. a girl n boy. theyre already teenagers though (i guess) and the girl is mixed color. black n orange n yellow, very colorful. and the boy is yellow orange striped like the tiger.

also, i think the girl cat is retarded. @_@ it stares blankly at something for long times. and got that 'blur' i-dont-know-whats-going-on face all the time. sometimes very scared of people that she dont even wanna walk towards me, sometimes normal.
usually she walks and when she sees someone she got, like, scared and nervous. steps back and got that wide eyed 'i dont know you' look abd looked around, and steps forward again, then back, then sits.
shes just, u know. i think shes retarded..
and when feeding time she eats like a pig. so vigorously. as if she was starving or something. even took her bro's food and her mom's. but they never bothered though and gave in.

the bro however is healthy and normal. cheerful and playful. fun to hold. and loves his sister so much. gives her tongue bath most of the times and they sleep together in a bundle. there was this once they curled up together, and they looked like ying-yangs. haha. laugh.gif got the picture, but in another pc.
i, well, i dunno. maybe the bro understand her condition..u know.. retarded, and gave her extra care and love.
the mom too. they love her so much. love seeing them together. haha.
and to think animals can love one another that much, not to mention humans..

now the mom is heavily pregnant. i think in the near future will give birth to at least 4-5 kittens. very big la her stomach. expecting her to give birth within this week or the next.

want pictars?. i can dig some and post later.
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Help!!
semalam anak kucing tersangkut dalam kereta (bawah enjin , somewhere around the hose thing) kaki tersepit
and putus 2 jari kaki belakang. what should i do now? kitten tu harini macam tak bermaya. mama kitten tu
tah gi mana , sibuk ngan jantan lain. what should i do what should i do  unsure.gif  cry.gif
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better go take ur kitty and see vet...
takut nanti wound infected...
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guys..wanna ask..when a cat is showing their third eyelid, n the eyes looks like wet/glassy, is it normal or needs medical attention?

another question...how long does it take for all worms to get out of the cat after taking dewormed tablet?

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Good morning...

Garfield just died yesterday. Leaving behind Tobey, Abu and Juliet, also not to forget his mommy and daddy who misses him dearly as he moved on to another world, a world of black and white. A last time to meet Tobey in this picture before he goes off.

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A tribute to Garfield (deeply missed cry.gif )

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Tobey and Garfield. Brothers forever.

I got Garfield from a chicken rice shop when he was very very small and he can still make sound while he's eating which I found him really cute. Nonetheless, he grew up, none stop irritating mommy and daddy for food early in the morning and that he don't know how to distinguish it's a weekend, and mommy and daddy dont wake up that early. Everytime when he plays dangerously in the balcony area, he gets a beating from mommy. And finally a small mistake in his step has cause his death from 11th Floor.

Your stubbornness Garfield, has cause us pain.

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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Oct 29 2008, 09:41 AM)
Good morning...

Garfield just died yesterday. Leaving behind Tobey, Abu and Juliet, also not to forget his mommy and daddy who misses him dearly as he moved on to another world, a world of black and white. A last time to meet Tobey in this picture before he goes off.

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A tribute to Garfield (deeply missed  cry.gif )

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The Jedi Garfield

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ET Garfield crawling out of the sink after his bath

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Master Yoga Garfield

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Tobey and Garfield. Brothers forever.

I got Garfield from a chicken rice shop when he was very very small and he can still make sound while he's eating which I found him really cute. Nonetheless, he grew up, none stop irritating mommy and daddy for food early in the morning and that he don't know how to distinguish it's a weekend, and mommy and daddy dont wake up that early. Everytime when he plays dangerously in the balcony area, he gets a beating from mommy. And finally a small mistake in his step has cause his death from 11th Floor.

Your stubbornness Garfield, has cause us pain.
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Oct 29 2008, 09:41 AM)
Good morning...

Garfield just died yesterday. Leaving behind Tobey, Abu and Juliet, also not to forget his mommy and daddy who misses him dearly as he moved on to another world, a world of black and white. A last time to meet Tobey in this picture before he goes off.

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A tribute to Garfield (deeply missed  cry.gif )

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The Jedi Garfield

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ET Garfield crawling out of the sink after his bath

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Master Yoga Garfield

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Tobey and Garfield. Brothers forever.

I got Garfield from a chicken rice shop when he was very very small and he can still make sound while he's eating which I found him really cute. Nonetheless, he grew up, none stop irritating mommy and daddy for food early in the morning and that he don't know how to distinguish it's a weekend, and mommy and daddy dont wake up that early. Everytime when he plays dangerously in the balcony area, he gets a beating from mommy. And finally a small mistake in his step has cause his death from 11th Floor.

Your stubbornness Garfield, has cause us pain.
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does anybody know how to deal with Tobey? he doesn't want to eat or do anything after Garfield death. I dun wan lose Tobey too sad.gif
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does anybody know how to deal with Tobey? he doesn't want to eat or do anything after Garfield death. I dun wan lose Tobey too sad.gif
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thats sad sad.gif

maybe get a new friend for Tobey?
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QUOTE(bebee @ Oct 29 2008, 10:26 AM)
thats sad sad.gif

maybe get a new friend for Tobey?
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sure fight...cause i bring to my friends house, tobey keep hissing at them. sweat.gif
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sure fight...cause i bring to my friends house, tobey keep hissing at them.  sweat.gif
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hello..
im newbie here..
anyone knw wat to do when the cat meet their session?
mine so noisy..
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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Oct 29 2008, 01:56 AM)
Hi all.. this is the first time i m posting something here.. i got a cat.. but i didnt know what is his gen whatsoever.. i found him at some one home, and decide to take care of him.. his name is ROMI and i dont even know how old he is.. any suggestion?? heh.. btw, he got hairball problem coz of his long fur.. any suggestion on what should i do.. Thx
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Congrats on having a new pet name ROMI rclxms.gif

As for the fur, ROMI's fur is not that long (from the picture it is not as long as other long hair cat), so all you need to do is to keep brushing the fur. you can buy pets fur brush from the petshop. brushing the fur everyday will help ROMI from swallow the fur.

then, check for parasites attack such as fleas, ticks, lice, etc... make sure he is free from all this. because, all this parasite will attack skin, due to this attack, fur will keep dropping without having healthy skin.

bring him to the vet for medical check up.. the vet can do check up if he got parasites or not. if he is not vaccine yet, then vaccine him smile.gif

then, feed him with a good food quality. you might want to try Royal Canin. and make sure you provide plenty clean filtered water.

make him a happy cat smile.gif happy cat will have quality life inside and outside. so avoid making him stress. introduce to new things slowly (since he is new in your home right?)

lastly, if he is not spay.. then spay/kembiri him (of course this owner decision, i'm not going to paksa paksa you ok tongue.gif, spay/neuter can be very sensitive issue in malaysia eheheh)... spay/kembiri your pet will make him grow healthier and less stress. this health will maintain a good fur condition too smile.gif

Good Luck! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Oct 29 2008, 09:41 AM)
Good morning...

Garfield just died yesterday. Leaving behind Tobey, Abu and Juliet, also not to forget his mommy and daddy who misses him dearly as he moved on to another world, a world of black and white. A last time to meet Tobey in this picture before he goes off.

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I got Garfield from a chicken rice shop when he was very very small and he can still make sound while he's eating which I found him really cute. Nonetheless, he grew up, none stop irritating mommy and daddy for food early in the morning and that he don't know how to distinguish it's a weekend, and mommy and daddy dont wake up that early. Everytime when he plays dangerously in the balcony area, he gets a beating from mommy. And finally a small mistake in his step has cause his death from 11th Floor.

Your stubbornness Garfield, has cause us pain.
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does anybody know how to deal with Tobey? he doesn't want to eat or do anything after Garfield death. I dun wan lose Tobey too sad.gif
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That's normal when someone missing his friend.

Many people said cat has no feeling, they are arrogant and living like a queen.. but now, we can see cat's do have feeling.

Sorry to hear about him, he will recover soon.

Just keep accompany him most of the time, and call his name. continue playing with him, so he don't feel lonely and sad.

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hello..
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anyone knw wat to do when the cat meet their session?
mine so noisy..
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you mean introduce cat for the first time?

if you have cage, cage one of them, and another one release.

then after then, cage the one release before, and the one in cage put outside.

but if u dont have cage, just let it be.. watch out for big fight!

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Hi all i got a very serious problem here, i got a cat which we pick her up from the streets when she was just a small litter kitten, and no w she is like 9 month old, and this 2 month we have face a very serious fleas and ticks problem, it's bite my, those fleas and ticks bite my GF leg very terrible, we have left the outside of the house for 2 weeks liao, but still got fleas and ticks that bite my GF, any thing i can do to stop this happen?? Coz if still continue like that i have no choice to give up my cat liao...
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QUOTE(yeh_chiam @ Oct 29 2008, 03:40 PM)
Hi all i got a very serious problem here, i got a cat which we pick her up from the streets when she was just a small litter kitten, and no w she is like 9 month old, and this 2 month we have face a very serious fleas and ticks problem, it's bite my, those fleas and ticks bite my GF leg very terrible, we have left the outside of the house for 2 weeks liao, but still got fleas and ticks that bite my GF, any thing i can do to stop this happen?? Coz if still continue like that i have no choice to give up my cat liao...
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hi.. i have a cat, i just call her meow. she's just an ordinary tabby. will upload some pics soon. smile.gif i don't see any thread discussing cat food so post my question here. i wonder what kind of cat food is best? i normally feed her with cat biscuit and occasionally some tuna (cat food one) usually go for whiskers brand. how do we know if the cat food is actually any good for our creatures?

another question: why is she always shedding a lot of hair?
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no... where can i find it?? and around how much is the price...
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no... where can i find it?? and around how much is the price...
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i think all pet shop sells them...

the frontline spot on if i'm not mistaken, RM (-+) 40 for 3 tubes
if the spray type, rm (-+)36 for small bottle

the other day i bought another type..rm10 for one tube..4 got already wats the name..its like the frontline spot on but different brand lah..
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ok.. if i put it on my cat then fleas and ticks will gone, but how about my house? will those fleas and ticks hide in the house? like beds and blanket?
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QUOTE(zxeen @ Oct 29 2008, 03:50 PM)
hi.. i have a cat, i just call her meow. she's just an ordinary tabby. will upload some pics soon. smile.gif i don't see any thread discussing cat food so post my question here. i wonder what kind of cat food is best? i normally feed her with cat biscuit and occasionally some tuna (cat food one) usually go for whiskers brand. how do we know if the cat food is actually any good for our creatures?

another question: why is she always shedding a lot of hair?
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welcome to this forum...we are all cat lovers here and dun mind sharing the infos with each other..
for cat food..before this i use whiskas brand and i fouind out that the hair shedding really bad and i got advice from forumers here that try to change the food as it may be the cause of this nissue..its normal for cat to shed the hair but if it is very bad, then it must have something wrong..
better to change to premium food like science plan, iams or royal canin..or super premium food like blackwood or acana..

i also try a new one which is recommended by our sifo here (elfreakz) to use Proformance brand and i found out that it is good though..the smell like royal canin for me and my choosy cats like it also...so it depends on you to pick any brand...

for wet food, i use frisian brand and some time give boiled chicken which is recommended by elfreakz to do so..my cat enjoy the boil chicken very much..

hope my info here is correct and please correct me if i m wrong...
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QUOTE(zxeen @ Oct 29 2008, 03:50 PM)
hi.. i have a cat, i just call her meow. she's just an ordinary tabby. will upload some pics soon. smile.gif i don't see any thread discussing cat food so post my question here. i wonder what kind of cat food is best? i normally feed her with cat biscuit and occasionally some tuna (cat food one) usually go for whiskers brand. how do we know if the cat food is actually any good for our creatures?

another question: why is she always shedding a lot of hair?
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fur problem cause by:

- stress (unhappy cat lead to stress which makes the fur fall).

- horny (horny cat will have side effect, which include stress when they do not have sex partner, spay/neuter is the solution)

- parasites (fleas, ticks, lice, etc... make sure your cat is free from this parasites).

- skin condition & health (not all cat born with the same skin condition, bad skin will lead to bad fur. so supplement for coat is recommended).

- food sensitive (not all cat eat the same food, some cats are very sensitive with fishes too)

- food brand types (lets make all this brands into 3 category, non premium, premium, and super premium)

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Choosing the right food.
- non premium food is the food that you can purchase from supermarket. such as whiskers, friskies, snoppy tom, etc. Non of this food are poison, so it is alright to sell it to the public. but, remember, CHEAP is not equal too good. what you pay is what you get. Meat or chicken is obviously expensive than fish and grains. So, basically non premium cat food is from grains, fish and vegetable. they do not contain much protein and fat for cats. thats why most cat that eat this food end up not having a good quality life. but still, this food won't kill your cat immediately, but slowly. i'm pretty sure everybody want their pets to be the best right?

- premium food such as IAMS, proformance, acana, blackwood, royal canin, eagle pack, etc. This food contain good protein and fat. also less grains. i repeat LESS GRAINS (so they still contain grains but lesser than non premium). Most of premium food do not added fish source, because fish in nature fish do not have much fat for cats. premium is reasonable.

- super premium food such as innova evo and Orijen. this food brands do not contain grains, which means 0% grains. and it is 100% meat! so, it is a good food to feed your cats. but price won't be on our side.. super premium food will be alil bit expensive than premium.

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READ THE INGREDIENTS!!! Always remember, atleast first two of the ingredient contain chicken/meat. try you best not to purchase cat food that had grains as first source of ingredients.

REMEMBER! cat needs enough protein and fat.

TRY, to choose chicken meal, instead of chicken by-product.
chicken meal means they only use the chicken meat to make the food.
chicken by-product they use the whole chicken, everything include, ass, butt, neck, eye, nose tongue.gif p/s chicken neck is not good to your cat.
yet they are both still good source of protein and fat, just that chicken meal is better.

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so u need to check all the above, and see which problem u have.

for parasite check up, bring your cat to the vets for check up.

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QUOTE(tartputat @ Oct 29 2008, 04:40 PM)
welcome to this forum...we are all cat lovers here and dun mind sharing the infos with each other..
for cat food..before this i use whiskas brand and i fouind out that the hair shedding really bad and i got advice from forumers here that try to change the food as it may be the cause of this nissue..its normal for cat to shed the hair but if it is very bad, then it must have something wrong..
better to change to premium food like science plan, iams or royal canin..or super premium food like blackwood or acana..

i also try a new one which is recommended by our sifo here (elfreakz) to use Proformance brand and i found out that it is good though..the smell like royal canin for me and my choosy cats like it also...so it depends on you to pick any brand...

for wet food, i use frisian brand and some time give boiled chicken which is recommended by elfreakz to do so..my cat enjoy the boil chicken very much..

hope my info here is correct and please correct me if i m wrong...
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remember, always brush or grooming your cat fur to get better result thumbup.gif

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hii all.. im very new here.. finally i can be in tis thread.. smile.gif i was given a kitten.. rclxm9.gif but its not those expensive nice haired cat.. juz a stray kitten.. given free cuz dat ppl got alot.. dont have opportunities to choose so i got da not-so nice one.. da coat's colour is mixed wiv many colours; black, white, brown... sweat.gif i dreamt for one long time ago n i got it today.. i dun have any experience in cat/kittens.. it seems scared of me firstly.. like traumatized.. scared if it scratch me..
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hii all.. im very new here.. finally i can be in tis thread.. smile.gif  i was given a kitten..  rclxm9.gif but its not those expensive nice haired cat.. juz a stray kitten.. given free cuz dat ppl got alot.. dont have opportunities to choose so i got da not-so nice one.. da coat's colour is mixed wiv many colours; black, white, brown...  sweat.gif i dreamt for one long time ago n i got it today.. i dun have any experience in cat/kittens.. it seems scared of me firstly.. like traumatized.. scared if it scratch me..
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hey ssyy smile.gif welcome to cat lovers thread smile.gif

first - all cats/kittens are beautiful their own ways smile.gif none of them are not so nice. nod.gif

second - love need no pedigree.. so stray kitten deserve to be love smile.gif almost all of us here has stray cat in the house. and believe me, stray cats are the easiest one to care. notworthy.gif

yea long time ago, when i was kid, i run away when i see cats tongue.gif but who knows, now cats are my family LOL...

if you have time, post some pictures ya smile.gif can't wait to see cuties.
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Good morning...

Garfield just died yesterday. Leaving behind Tobey, Abu and Juliet, also not to forget his mommy and daddy who misses him dearly as he moved on to another world, a world of black and white. A last time to meet Tobey in this picture before he goes off.

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A tribute to Garfield (deeply missed  cry.gif )

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The Jedi Garfield

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ET Garfield crawling out of the sink after his bath

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Master Yoga Garfield

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Tobey and Garfield. Brothers forever.

I got Garfield from a chicken rice shop when he was very very small and he can still make sound while he's eating which I found him really cute. Nonetheless, he grew up, none stop irritating mommy and daddy for food early in the morning and that he don't know how to distinguish it's a weekend, and mommy and daddy dont wake up that early. Everytime when he plays dangerously in the balcony area, he gets a beating from mommy. And finally a small mistake in his step has cause his death from 11th Floor.

Your stubbornness Garfield, has cause us pain.
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Tribute to Garfield, I miss the way you make the sound when we were disturbing you eating. Miss the way you slept on dudey's arms. Miss the way you sneak up on us. Miss the way your tail moves when we were playing with it.. you will be greatly missed. sad.gif

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Sorry for the loss of Garfield, hope that everything will be ok~~
Garfield will always be in your heart ~~ The sweet memories remains ~

I agree that cats have feeling too, as they will miss their friends which they used to bond with ~~ Some cats will search for their friend and meowing constantly. Additionally, they are smart and sensitive too ~

My grandparents' house has a number of stray cats that made themselves at home every now and then by sleeping, hanging around and eating there ~~ They certainly made my grandparents' life more warm and happy
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do u give ur cats their foods in rations?
meaning only give for morning, afternoon n nite..

not just buh byk2 n just tambah bile abis tongue.gif
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hamster9, i'm sorry for your lost. sad.gif

Gosh, these days alot of cat died because of a small mistake. cry.gif

I hope mine will not end like that. sad.gif

Finished war with the Fleas Kingdom. And i won~

I groom my cat's fur, my god, i saw alotttttttttttttt of Fleas Kingdom army! Today wanna buy Spot-on. smile.gif
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QUOTE(mizeily @ Oct 30 2008, 10:50 AM)
elf..

do u give ur cats their foods in rations?
meaning only give for morning, afternoon n nite..

not just buh byk2 n just tambah bile abis tongue.gif
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yes on rations..

morning, afternoon and midnight before i go to sleep.

i will just recycle the old one before adding the new one... like shake the old one with new. as long as the old one is like 1-2 days old in the bowl lah ehehe.. jangan lak tambah on top of the food that is dah lemau.

proformance for the adults 1/2 cup for each bowl. (im using the science place food cup, if u ever saw this)...

oh well, i'm at home most of the time, so, i have no reason to bubuh byk byk eheheh...

i understand some people kena kerja morning till night, so kena bubuh byk2... its alright afterall..

kalau ada duit, beli food feeder tu... there are 2 type..

the cheap on, is just a container of food and bowl. kalau makanan tu kurang, ada lobang from the container will drop the kibbles slowly. i saw at petsmore..

then if u want the automatic feeder pun ada, but expensive. yang ni guna machine control the food, buka dan tutup tongue.gif

anyway, the old fashion ways, bubuh banyak2 still work lah...

i pun kalau not at home the whole day, i will bubuh penuh2.

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QUOTE(abang brother @ Oct 30 2008, 01:27 PM)
hamster9, i'm sorry for your lost. sad.gif

Gosh, these days alot of cat died because of a small mistake. cry.gif

I hope mine will not end like that. sad.gif

Finished war with the Fleas Kingdom. And i won~

I groom my cat's fur, my god, i saw alotttttttttttttt of Fleas Kingdom army! Today wanna buy Spot-on. smile.gif
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You WON!!! its a victory!!! yey!

yea buy that spot-on to protect your land after the war.. sometimes ada periuk api ahahah, sometimes ada perisik upahan especially si ear mites...

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 30 2008, 02:27 PM)
yes on rations..

morning, afternoon and midnight before i go to sleep.

i will just recycle the old one before adding the new one... like shake the old one with new. as long as the old one is like 1-2 days old in the bowl lah ehehe.. jangan lak tambah on top of the food that is dah lemau.

proformance for the adults 1/2 cup for each bowl. (im using the science place food cup, if u ever saw this)...

oh well, i'm at home most of the time, so, i have no reason to bubuh byk byk eheheh...

i understand some people kena kerja morning till night, so kena bubuh byk2... its alright afterall..

kalau ada duit, beli food feeder tu... there are 2 type..

the cheap on, is just a container of food and bowl. kalau makanan tu kurang, ada lobang from the container will drop the kibbles slowly. i saw at petsmore..

then if u want the automatic feeder pun ada, but expensive. yang ni guna machine control the food, buka dan tutup tongue.gif

anyway, the old fashion ways, bubuh banyak2 still work lah...

i pun kalau not at home the whole day, i will bubuh penuh2.
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wa..u'r home most of the time? wat kind of work u do ar.. hmm.gif nk keje gtu gak.. tongue.gif

time relax..then can bela lots of cats tongue.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 30 2008, 12:57 AM)
hey ssyy smile.gif welcome to cat lovers thread smile.gif

first - all cats/kittens are beautiful their own ways smile.gif none of them are not so nice.  nod.gif

second - love need no pedigree.. so stray kitten deserve to be love smile.gif almost all of us here has stray cat in the house. and believe me, stray cats are the easiest one to care.  notworthy.gif

yea long time ago, when i was kid, i run away when i see cats tongue.gif but who knows, now cats are my family LOL...

if you have time, post some pictures ya smile.gif can't wait to see cuties.
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hi, thx smile.gif ic.. tq so much for some info.. notworthy.gif yeah, today going to veterinar to check n do all those necessary things.. btw, last night, i put da cage on my garden chair at da car porch, when it was midnight, i went n check.. shocked to see there were 3 big stray cats circling around its cage. my kitten looked scared.. i wonder wat do they want.. so i moved da cage inside da house n i found out it purr n purr n purr for almost an hour.. it hardly sleeps last nite.. is tis normal? ah, i found out its has a tortoiseshell's coat laugh.gif
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hi..

thanks for the condolences. also thanks suiteng for the pictures. didn't know dudey and you were snapping garfield's pic.

tobey i hope is coping well... bring him where ever i go now. *sigh*
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QUOTE(ssyy @ Oct 30 2008, 02:57 PM)
hi, thx  smile.gif ic.. tq so much for some info..  notworthy.gif yeah, today going to veterinar to check n do all those necessary things.. btw, last night, i put da cage on my garden chair at da car porch, when it was midnight, i went n check.. shocked to see there were 3 big stray cats circling around its cage. my kitten looked scared.. i wonder wat do they want.. so i moved da cage inside da house n i found out it purr n purr n purr for almost an hour.. it hardly sleeps last nite.. is tis normal? ah, i found out its has a tortoiseshell's coat  laugh.gif
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stray cat outside want to meet your kitten and see if that kitten is going to disturb their place. im pretty sure outside your home is belong to the stray cat around your neighborhood. cat are very territory. other cat cannot disturb their territory, if they want, they must fight first.

so put your cat inside.

its normal for cat to purr.. but im not sure how ur cat purr.. the purring term means "manja" and relaxing.

most cat will play during night, mid night and early morning. and will sleep during the day smile.gif
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Oct 30 2008, 03:50 PM)
hi..

thanks for the condolences. also thanks suiteng for the pictures. didn't know dudey and you were snapping garfield's pic.

tobey i hope is coping well... bring him where ever i go now. *sigh*
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garfield and tobey are lucky...
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 29 2008, 05:51 PM)
wah you dah beli proformance ke biggrin.gif

remember, always brush or grooming your cat fur to get better result  thumbup.gif

tak boleh harap kan makanan saja.
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yeah..i did try the proformance..
two packs already and my cats found it good..
like i said..its like royal canin from the smell itself but i dun know he taste coz never eat kibbles.. tongue.gif
but my cats like it so much..
thanks for recommending this brand to me..
i buy it at bangsar and taipan also got..
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nowaday always comb my cats hair to make it fluffier..
u have a lot of infos..really a sifoo notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(tartputat @ Oct 30 2008, 06:49 PM)
yeah..i did try the proformance..
two packs already and my cats found it good..
like i said..its like royal canin from the smell itself but i dun know he taste coz never eat kibbles..  tongue.gif
but my cats like it so much..
thanks for recommending this brand to me..
i buy it at bangsar and taipan also got..
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nowaday always comb my cats hair to make it fluffier..
u have a lot of infos..really a sifoo notworthy.gif
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sharing is caring smile.gif

royal canin is alil bit salty than others. believe it or not, i taste it with my tongue before LOL.... yes RC is salty than others.

yeap Proformance look like RC, just that RC abit darker.

to have a good look, grooming is important. don't rely on any brands, even you feed with the most expensive food in town but if you never groom and care for your cat, it will turn out bad too. smile.gif

what's the shop name in bangsar and taipan ah? how much they selling? they selling fussiecat litter as well?
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 29 2008, 01:34 PM)
Congrats on having a new pet name ROMI  rclxms.gif

As for the fur, ROMI's fur is not that long (from the picture it is not as long as other long hair cat), so all you need to do is to keep brushing the fur. you can buy pets fur brush from the petshop. brushing the fur everyday will help ROMI from swallow the fur.

then, check for parasites attack such as fleas, ticks, lice, etc... make sure he is free from all this. because, all this parasite will attack skin, due to this attack, fur will keep dropping without having healthy skin.

bring him to the vet for medical check up..  the vet can do check up if he got parasites or not. if he is not vaccine yet, then vaccine him smile.gif

then, feed him with a good food quality. you might want to try Royal Canin. and make sure you provide plenty clean filtered water.

make him a happy cat smile.gif happy cat will have quality life inside and outside. so avoid making him stress. introduce to new things slowly (since he is new in your home right?)

lastly, if he is not spay.. then spay/kembiri him (of course this owner decision, i'm not going to paksa paksa you ok tongue.gif, spay/neuter can be very sensitive issue in malaysia eheheh)... spay/kembiri your pet will make him grow healthier and less stress. this health will maintain a good fur condition too smile.gif

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yes.. it is not that long.. heh.. i take ur advise.. i will go to vet.. but the cost? may i know how much roughly the cost of getting him vaccinated? i know giving him iams branded foods. but tbh, i have no idea of what is that u mean by spay/kembiri,
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yes.. it is not that long.. heh.. i take ur advise.. i will go to vet.. but the cost? may i know how much roughly the cost of getting him vaccinated? i know giving him iams branded foods. but tbh, i have no idea of what is that u mean by spay/kembiri,
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price for vaccine may be different from one vet to another vet. before you go to the vet, call them and ask for the price. else it would be a waste of time if you do not agree with their price right.

Segar Vet, Taman Segar cheras is rm35. it should be around this price... the most expensive i know is rm60.

What is Spay/Neuter?

The term neutering refers to the removal of the reproductive organs of the male and female animal, while spaying is specific to female cats and the male cat is castrated.

Advantages of SPAYING or NEUTERING your pet.

1. Pet Population Control - Thousands of stray pets face euthanasia or are suffering on the streets so, please spay your pets and help prevent this problem.

2. Heath Benefits
* Females
o Decreases the risk of mammary tumors (breast cancer)
o Eliminates the risk of uterine infections (pyometra)
o Reduces the risk of TVT (Transmissible Venereal Tumour), a sexually transmitted cancer.
* Males
o Reduces the chances of TVT
o Eliminates the risk of testicular cancer
o Markedly reduces the risk of prostrate cancer, anal gland cancer

3. Behaviour Benefits
* Reduces stress
* Prevents wandering and roaming in search of females, which can lead to:
o road accidents
o fighting leading to wounds and infections
o spread of diseases such as TVT
* Eliminates marking of territory by urine spraying and reduces odor
* Reduces interdog aggression.


Why spay or neuter your pet?
There are many medical and behavioral benefits from spaying or neutering your pets. These includes:

1. Easier for you. (Avoid embarrassing moments where dogs like to 'mount' on peoples leg. Eliminate the the frantic pacing and crying while in heat.)

2. Healthier for your pet. (Avoid the risks of pregnancy and birth. Reduces the risk of prostate problems and testicular tumors later in life. Reduces the possibility of mammary tumors.)

3. Reduce the overpopulation problem. (One male can impregnate many females, resulting in unwanted kittens and puppies. You don't have to worry of what to do with the unplanned litters of puppies and kittens.)

4. Eliminates sexual frustration. (A frustrated male can do bad things like jump fences and bump on the door in order to mate. Spayed and neutered pets are more relax and are loyal to your family.)


To neuter or not to neuter?
You may have chosen not to neuter your cat without realizing the long term effect. Starting from 2 cats, you my end up with as many as 20,000 kittens in a matter of 7 years.

Do you have the means to care for them or to find them homes? It is a known fact that there are a lot of stray cats wandering all around town. The majority of them cannot get sufficient food and are exposed to diseases and to the taunting and cruelty of heartless folks; or may end up maimed or dead from accidents.

According to the experts, neutered cats are healthier and less prone cancerous of the reproductive organs. Cats become less likely to wander and will therefore not get lost, hurt, sick and not incur the wrath of the public from their mating activities.


We have referred to the "Jawatankuasa Kemajuan Islam Malaysia" regarding the neutering of pets. Below is the "fatwa" issued by JAKIM (July 2002):

"All pets like cats and dogs are allowed to be neutered or spayed in order to maintain the health and welfare of both the animals and the community."

"Bahawa mengembiri binatang kesayangan seperti kucing atau anjing hukumnya adalah diharuskan dengan sebab-sebab tertentu iaitu bagi menjaga muslahat ummah."

After studying the messages of the aforementioned "mazhab"s and the medical viewpoint of the SPCA animal experts, 'JAKIM' has decided that neutering of cats for reasons of 'maslahat' is acceptable. It is in agreement with 'qaedah' (way) Fiqhiyyah which states "To choose the lesser of two evils".



In view of the good which can be derived, neutering can be carried out for the well-being of your pet cat. Do not be of two minds anymore. Hurry to your vet to make an appointment to neuter your cat.

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hmm.. i wonder what will u all do when ur pet dies>? i will dig a place..
swt .. do u put tombstone>,,,>?
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 31 2008, 12:16 AM)
price for vaccine may be different from one vet to another vet. before you go to the vet, call them and ask for the price. else it would be a waste of time if you do not agree with their price right.

Segar Vet, Taman Segar cheras is rm35. it should be around this price... the most expensive i know is rm60.

What is Spay/Neuter?

The term neutering refers to the removal of the reproductive organs of the male and female animal, while spaying is specific to female cats and the male cat is castrated.

Advantages of SPAYING or NEUTERING your pet.

1. Pet Population Control - Thousands of stray pets face euthanasia or are suffering on the streets so, please spay your pets and help prevent this problem.

2. Heath Benefits
* Females
o Decreases the risk of mammary tumors (breast cancer)
o Eliminates the risk of uterine infections (pyometra)
o Reduces the risk of TVT (Transmissible Venereal Tumour), a sexually transmitted cancer.
* Males
o Reduces the chances of TVT
o Eliminates the risk of testicular cancer
o Markedly reduces the risk of prostrate cancer, anal gland cancer

3. Behaviour Benefits
* Reduces stress
* Prevents wandering and roaming in search of females, which can lead to:
o road accidents
o fighting leading to wounds and infections
o spread of diseases such as TVT
* Eliminates marking of territory by urine spraying and reduces odor
* Reduces interdog aggression.
Why spay or neuter your pet?
There are many medical and behavioral benefits from spaying or neutering your pets. These includes:

1. Easier for you. (Avoid embarrassing moments where dogs like to 'mount' on peoples leg. Eliminate the the frantic pacing and crying while in heat.)

2. Healthier for your pet. (Avoid the risks of pregnancy and birth. Reduces the risk of prostate problems and testicular tumors later in life. Reduces the possibility of mammary tumors.)

3. Reduce the overpopulation problem. (One male can impregnate many females, resulting in unwanted kittens and puppies. You don't have to worry of what to do with the unplanned litters of puppies and kittens.)

4. Eliminates sexual frustration. (A frustrated male can do bad things like jump fences and bump on the door in order to mate. Spayed and neutered pets are more relax and are loyal to your family.)
To neuter or not to neuter?
You may have chosen not to neuter your cat without realizing the long term effect. Starting from 2 cats, you my end up with as many as 20,000 kittens in a matter of 7 years.

Do you have the means to care for them or to find them homes? It is a known fact that there are a lot of stray cats wandering all around town. The majority of them cannot get sufficient food and are exposed to diseases and to the taunting and cruelty of heartless folks; or may end up maimed or dead from accidents.

According to the experts, neutered cats are healthier and less prone cancerous of the reproductive organs. Cats become less likely to wander and will therefore not get lost, hurt, sick and not incur the wrath of the public from their mating activities.
We have referred to the "Jawatankuasa Kemajuan Islam Malaysia" regarding the neutering of pets. Below is the "fatwa" issued by JAKIM (July 2002):

"All pets like cats and dogs are allowed to be neutered or spayed in order to maintain the health and welfare of both the animals and the community."

"Bahawa mengembiri binatang kesayangan seperti kucing atau anjing hukumnya adalah diharuskan dengan sebab-sebab tertentu iaitu bagi menjaga muslahat ummah."

After studying the messages of the aforementioned "mazhab"s and the medical viewpoint of the SPCA animal experts, 'JAKIM' has decided that neutering of cats for reasons of 'maslahat' is acceptable. It is in agreement with 'qaedah' (way) Fiqhiyyah which states "To choose the lesser of two evils".

In view of the good which can be derived, neutering can be carried out for the well-being of your pet cat. Do not be of two minds anymore. Hurry to your vet to make an appointment to neuter your cat.
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u really good man.. thx for ur long info.. at last.. the last pieces of words that was convince me. heh

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Hye there..erm..sy ada kucing yg rasanya persian.but i dunno what the exact breed she is..
actually she is my neighbour's ,but for the past 5months or more she keep on coming to our hse and sekarang rasanya dah jadi sebahagian dari family kami kot.

Is it ok if we take care of her,cause the owner seem don't care at all about her!

Then,about 3months ago dia kena kurap and my brother dah bwk pg vet doc bg injection.The kurap is gone now,but ada fleas pulak!

Last Thursday dah pg lagi vet,doc bubuh ubat on top of her neck,2days later i mandikan dia.
Yesterday,ada balik fleas!! shocking.gif OH MY GOD!
I ingat nak mandi kan dia tp doc kata cat can mandi twice a month mcm tu je.That mean 2minggu sekali.Baru 5 hari boleh ke mandikan??

maybe it is my fault jgk sbb dia main2 kat luar.Tp die mmg jenis yg merayap and suka main kat luar.I takut and kisian nak kurung dia even dlm bilik or cage.Lagipun dia bkn 'officially' our cat!

Please help me. I got itchy here and there because of the fleas!Plus,there is a baby in the house..sad.gif

P/S:Berapa lama ubat fleas yg dibubuh dekat atas leher tu boleh bertahan??
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Hye there..erm..sy ada kucing yg rasanya persian.but i dunno what the exact breed she is..
actually she is my neighbour's ,but for the past 5months or more she keep on coming to our hse and sekarang rasanya dah jadi sebahagian dari family kami kot.

Is it ok if we take care of her,cause the owner seem don't care at all about her!

Then,about 3months ago dia kena kurap and my brother dah bwk pg vet doc bg injection.The kurap is gone now,but ada fleas pulak!

Last Thursday dah pg lagi vet,doc bubuh ubat on top of her neck,2days later i mandikan dia.
Yesterday,ada balik fleas!! shocking.gif OH MY GOD!
I ingat nak mandi kan dia tp doc kata cat can mandi twice a month mcm tu je.That mean 2minggu sekali.Baru 5 hari boleh ke mandikan??

maybe it is my fault jgk sbb dia main2 kat luar.Tp die mmg jenis yg merayap and suka main kat luar.I takut and kisian nak kurung dia even dlm bilik or cage.Lagipun dia bkn 'officially' our cat!

Please help me. I got itchy here and there because of the fleas!Plus,there is a baby in the house..sad.gif

P/S:Berapa lama ubat fleas yg dibubuh dekat atas leher tu boleh bertahan??
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uhmm pretty bad to have persian as outdoor pets. im pretty sure what you meant was domestic long hair right?

flea is the worst night mare. getting rid of it, is so hard. some more kucing you outdoor. that's even 10 times nightmare.

that thing dia bubuh belakang leher tu is something like frontline spot on. this thing akan meresap dalam kulit, and can stand for 2-3 months. bila kutu sedut darah kucing melalui kulit, dia akan terus terkena racun tu dah mati. but since your cat is outdoor cat yang berkeliaran, kutu akan sentiasa ada, tapi akan mati.

so your case is like, flea visiting dan mati, but another new flea akan merayap atas dia sebab dia hidup bebas.

unless your cat is indoor duduk dalam rumah, flea datang -> mati -> terus hilang.

many people thinking indoor cat are kesian, seperti di dera. but you need to remember, pets means indoor. they living more better than outside animal. by having your pets to stay indoor means you give enough care. why? because staying indoor is so much better than roaming outside. di luar banyak bakteria, kuman, binatang lain yang merbahaya seperti anjing, racun, manusia yang kejam, kereta lalu lalang. so staying inside adalah tempat paling selamat untuk seekor haiwan peliharaan.

beside, sekarang banyak jual permainan kucing untuk menghiburkan hati dorang dalam rumah.

kalau you nak bunuh kutu tapi still nak kucing tu berkeliaran, i think its very very hard. why? sebab tadi, kutu hinggap mati, dan kutu baru dari luar akan ikut kucing tu. bila dia ikut, dia masuk rumah kita, kutu akan hinggap pada kita, atau pun barang2 di dalam rumah. ingat, kutu boleh membiak pada karpet rumah kita.

the only solution is to keep your cat as indoor cat, baru you boleh mati kan kutu2 tu, dan tak akan datang lagi.

but since that cat is not yours, i think u better give back him/her to your neighbor and please ask them to jaga that cat as pets not as stray cat (kucing liar).
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wanna ask, female cats naturally ate more then male?

i dunno why my male cat so good, let the female ate all the food...

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lol krynz, just take it. biggrin.gif

Lol, i never watched Oprah. laugh.gif

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Added on October 31, 2008, 3:42 pmOh ya, i bought Spot-on Combo, whats so special about it? The normal one is out of stock. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(sweetcat @ Oct 31 2008, 09:34 AM)
wanna ask, female cats naturally ate more then male?

i dunno why my male cat so good, let the female ate all the food...

haihz.. my male cat is getting thinner n thinner edi... gosh... :'(
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hmmm not really.. some male can be a good eater, some can be more than female.

are they brother and sister?

my cat, 3 siblings, all a fast and good eater tongue.gif

have u ever bring the male to medical check up? like vaccine, deworming, etc?

the only thing u can do is, bring to vets to check if there is problem with the health.

then, check what food you feed, he might not fancy that food...

else, your male cat is more to be skinny like me LOL.. tongue.gif

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Oh ya, i bought Spot-on Combo, whats so special about it? The normal one is out of stock. biggrin.gif
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hmm i saw PLUS, but seldom saw combo.. i think its almost similar with plus one... the PLUS spot on can kills flea eggs and larvae... while the normal one cannot. so i believe combo works like plus.

the box different oso right? did u check the box?
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 31 2008, 05:56 PM)
hmm i saw PLUS, but seldom saw combo.. i think its almost similar with plus one... the PLUS spot on can kills flea eggs and larvae... while the normal one cannot. so i believe combo works like plus.

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There are a few stray cats [female only] who alwaz hang around my place. We alwaz feed them and noted that they very frequent got pregnant. Most of the babies died or dissapeared. So my mum and I have decided to spay the female cats [at least 3 of them].

1 of the female cat dissapear for 3 weeks and not sure still alive or not. Another one gave birth 1 month ago, plan to spay it next weekend. The last one just gave birth last week. Can anyone recommend any good vet for me. Prefer somewhere new PJ old town or SS2 area. If possible the price is less than RM100. THank you.
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 31 2008, 05:24 AM)
uhmm pretty bad to have persian as outdoor pets. im pretty sure what you meant was domestic long hair right?

flea is the worst night mare. getting rid of it, is so hard. some more kucing you outdoor. that's even 10 times nightmare.

that thing dia bubuh belakang leher tu is something like frontline spot on. this thing akan meresap dalam kulit, and can stand for 2-3 months. bila kutu sedut darah kucing melalui kulit, dia akan terus terkena racun tu dah mati. but since your cat is outdoor cat yang berkeliaran, kutu akan sentiasa ada, tapi akan mati.

so your case is like, flea visiting dan mati, but another new flea akan merayap atas dia sebab dia hidup bebas.

unless your cat is indoor duduk dalam rumah, flea datang -> mati -> terus hilang.

many people thinking indoor cat are kesian, seperti di dera. but you need to remember, pets means indoor. they living more better than outside animal. by having your pets to stay indoor means you give enough care. why? because staying indoor is so much better than roaming outside. di luar banyak bakteria, kuman, binatang lain yang merbahaya seperti anjing, racun, manusia yang kejam, kereta lalu lalang. so staying inside adalah tempat paling selamat untuk seekor haiwan peliharaan.

beside, sekarang banyak jual permainan kucing untuk menghiburkan hati dorang dalam rumah.

kalau you nak bunuh kutu tapi still nak kucing tu berkeliaran, i think its very very hard. why? sebab tadi, kutu hinggap mati, dan kutu baru dari luar akan ikut kucing tu. bila dia ikut, dia masuk rumah kita, kutu akan hinggap pada kita, atau pun barang2 di dalam rumah. ingat, kutu boleh membiak pada karpet rumah kita.

the only solution is to keep your cat as indoor cat, baru you boleh mati kan kutu2 tu, dan tak akan datang lagi.

but since that cat is not yours, i think u better give back him/her to your neighbor and please ask them to jaga that cat as pets not as stray cat (kucing liar).
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thanx for the reply! But i don't think im gonna return her back to the owner!!they wont take care of her!plus,there is a male cat(pasangan dia la),she scared of him!i think thats why she came and living here with us sbb we all akan protect dia bila kucing lain dtg.
lgpun the doc kata the cat selalu lepak kat our hse tu myb sbb die rasa selesa and secure.

ok,so if i just let her stay indoor for now will the fleas gone??
so that i don't need to take her to the vet or bath her ke???
sbb u said ubat bertahan 2-3months kan..
kalau tak i nak mandikan dia esok jgk or bring her to the vet clinic(since weekend vet tutup!)

one more thing,u kata kutu boleh membiak pada carpet and stuff dlm rumah kan,so xde ke solution utk kills all the fleas yg dlm rumah?
my relative is having the same problem,and the doc asked them to use sabun kutu yg utk kucing tu and basuh lantai&carpet dgn sabun tu.will it work?????

another problem is,like i said die ada kena kurap sblm ni.After that die turun berat bdn sgt2 and sekarang kurang mkn..
she's really2 fussy!but i still can tolerate la dgn perkara mcm tu.
Tp die kuat tido la..thats make me so worry!pemals betul,tp nampak mcm ok jee..
doc kata better bg the biscuits one than the can food.

oh ya!i dunno lah if she is a domestic long hair ke apa..
whats the difference??
do u have any website that i can see(pic would be better) the breeds of every cats in the world??
thanks a lot!
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QUOTE(Mimzy @ Nov 1 2008, 02:15 AM)
thanx for the reply! But i don't think im gonna return her back to the owner!!they wont take care of her!plus,there is a male cat(pasangan dia la),she scared of him!i think thats why she came and living here with us sbb we all akan protect dia bila kucing lain dtg.
lgpun the doc kata the cat selalu lepak kat our hse tu myb sbb die rasa selesa and secure.

ok,so if i just let her stay indoor for now will the fleas gone??
so that i don't need to take her to the vet or bath her ke???
sbb u said ubat bertahan 2-3months kan..
kalau tak i nak mandikan dia esok jgk or bring her to the vet clinic(since weekend vet tutup!)

one more thing,u kata kutu boleh membiak pada carpet and stuff dlm rumah kan,so xde ke solution utk kills all the fleas yg dlm rumah?
my relative is having the same problem,and the doc asked them to use sabun kutu yg utk kucing tu and basuh lantai&carpet dgn sabun tu.will it work?????

another problem is,like i said die ada kena kurap sblm ni.After that die turun berat bdn sgt2 and sekarang kurang mkn..
she's really2 fussy!but i still can tolerate la dgn perkara mcm tu.
Tp die kuat tido la..thats make me so worry!pemals betul,tp nampak mcm ok jee..
doc kata better bg the biscuits one than the can food.

oh ya!i dunno lah if she is a domestic long hair ke apa..
whats the difference??
do u have any website that i can see(pic would be better) the breeds of every cats in the world??
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-ok,so if i just let her stay indoor for now will the fleas gone?? = YES FLEA WILL BE GONE IF YOU CONTINUE USING THE FLEA KILLER PRODUCT.

so that i don't need to take her to the vet or bath her ke??? = IF YOU USE THE SPOT ON, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BATH. IF YOU USE THE SPRAY TYPE, YOU NEED TO BATH AFTER 24-48HOURS.

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u kata kutu boleh membiak pada carpet and stuff dlm rumah kan,so xde ke solution utk kills all the fleas yg dlm rumah?my relative is having the same problem,and the doc asked them to use sabun kutu yg utk kucing tu and basuh lantai&carpet dgn sabun tu.will it work????? = THE NUMBER 1 SOLUTION IS "HYGIENE AND CLEAN HOME ENVIRONMENT". ALWAYS VACUUM, ALWAYS MOP YOUR FLOOR. KALAU ADA DUIT LEBIH, BAWA CARPET PERGI DOBI CUCI. NOT ONLY BILA ADA KUTU, BUT WHEN TAK ADA KUTU PUN KENA KERAPAT KEMAS RUMAH. BECAUSE YOU HAVE INDOOR PETS NOW, AND YOU HAVE SMALL CHILDREN KAN.

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do u have any website that i can see(pic would be better) the breeds of every cats in the world?? = YOU GO TO FIRST PAGE OF THIS THREAD, KAT SITU ADA MAKSUD DLH AND DSH..

AS FOR BREED TYPES, YOU CAN MAKE THIS WEBSITE AS REFERENCE LIST OF CATS BREED

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Nak bunuh semua kutu ni ambik masa, because your case ni macam kutu tu dah menyerang manusia. so it takes alil bit more time. sebab kutu ni jenis yang melompat lompat dan bergerak pantas.

the easiest way, if you have sangkar kucing, you sangkar dulu your cat. jangan bagi dia merayau2. sebab merayau ni dia boleh transmit kutu ke tempat lain or ambik kutu dari tempat lain ke tempat lain. like from living room to bed room. vice versa.

if she is in sangkar, put the sangkar away from benda2 seperti karpet. maybe dalam dapur. biasa dapur dia simen and tiles kan. yet must still be indoor. jangan letak sangat kat luar lak.

Spot on yang u guna tu, dia boleh tahan kat badan kucing 2-3 bulan. kalau kita mandi kan kucing pun ubat tu masih kekal dalam badan kucing.

yang spray punya jenis (frontline), you kena spray rata2 pada badan dan bulu kucing (tidak termasuk muka).. lepas tu tunggu 24-48jam. spray bagus untuk kutu yang byk. sbb spray lagi cepat membunuh. spot on biasa guna untuk protection kalo kutu tak byk. kalo u guna spray tu kan, u akan nampak kutu tu mampus dan lari lintang pukang macam di kejar hantu tongue.gif

and then, u kena kerap sikat bulu kucing guna penyikat kutu (ada jual kat petshop). why? u kena sikat telur2 kutu dan kutu2 mati. telur2 tu paling bahaya, sebelum dia membiak menetas, baik u sikat bagi jatuh dari badan kucing.

last skali, selalu selalu lah mandi kan kucing sampai kutu tu habis. mungkin seminggu sekali dengan shampoo kutu.

bila semua dah mati... jangan lak u bagi kucing u main di luar sad.gif sia sia je menghabiskan duit untuk membunuh kutu.
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Elf,

nak tanya sket...setahu saya kucing yg mengandung boleh produce susu so bila anak lahir terus boleh menyusu but how come kucing betina member saya pas bersalin jer susu dah kering???
currently all 8 ekor is being nursed by foster mother and bottled fed so do you have any idea why this happend and from ur experience is there any ways ton get the susu back???

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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Nov 1 2008, 02:36 PM)
Elf,

nak tanya sket...setahu saya kucing yg mengandung boleh produce susu so bila anak lahir terus boleh menyusu but how come kucing betina member saya pas bersalin jer susu dah kering???
currently all 8 ekor is being nursed by foster mother and bottled fed so do you have any idea why this happend and from ur experience is there any ways ton get the susu back???
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yes normal. some ibu kucing ada yang bermasalah dengan susu. macam manusia juga kot. ada wanita pun bermasalah menyusu kan anak, sampai kena pam ehehe.

ada ibu kucing yang masalah terlebih banyak susu sampai membuat puting menjadi bengkak.

apa apa pun, your problem ni sound like, ibu kucing tak cukup nutrition. what food your friend bagi kat ibu kucing tu? waktu dia mengandung, did your friend feed premium kitten food?

may i know what cat are you dealing with? longhair? short hair? macam mana you tau dia tak ada susu? did u picit the puting?
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 1 2008, 02:58 PM)
yes normal. some ibu kucing ada yang bermasalah dengan susu. macam manusia juga kot. ada wanita pun bermasalah menyusu kan anak, sampai kena pam ehehe.

ada ibu kucing yang masalah terlebih banyak susu sampai membuat puting menjadi bengkak.

apa apa pun, your problem ni sound like, ibu kucing tak cukup nutrition. what food your friend bagi kat ibu kucing tu? waktu dia mengandung, did your friend feed premium kitten food?

may i know what cat are you dealing with? longhair? short hair? macam mana you tau dia tak ada susu? did u picit the puting?
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lah elf nie lah kucing betina yg kucing jantan i pie rogol tu...ingat x dulu i seek ur advice on breeding them??? she gave birth to 8 ekor furballz on 27th Oct(deepavali babies)hahahahaha.
she is a persian cat...masa baru lahir tu mmg ada susu but the next day dah xder and my friend mmg picit xpi x kuar so bila i pergi ke rumah dia and i pun picit picit...x kuar gak. the cat looks healty she doent look that she is in pain or what its just that she cant nurse them.
she was given science diet all her life and during the last week of pregnancy my friend tukar tu the puppy's food.


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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Nov 1 2008, 03:50 PM)
lah elf nie lah kucing betina yg kucing jantan i pie rogol tu...ingat x dulu i seek ur advice on breeding them??? she gave birth to 8 ekor furballz on 27th Oct(deepavali babies)hahahahaha.
she is a persian cat...masa baru lahir tu mmg ada susu but the next day dah xder and my friend mmg picit xpi x kuar so bila i pergi ke rumah dia and i pun picit picit...x kuar gak. the cat looks healty she doent look that she is in pain or what its just that she cant nurse them.
she was given science diet all her life and during the last week of pregnancy my friend tukar tu the puppy's food.
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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Nov 1 2008, 03:50 PM)
lah elf nie lah kucing betina yg kucing jantan i pie rogol tu...ingat x dulu i seek ur advice on breeding them??? she gave birth to 8 ekor furballz on 27th Oct(deepavali babies)hahahahaha.
she is a persian cat...masa baru lahir tu mmg ada susu but the next day dah xder and my friend mmg picit xpi x kuar so bila i pergi ke rumah dia and i pun picit picit...x kuar gak. the cat looks healty she doent look that she is in pain or what its just that she cant nurse them.
she was given science diet all her life and during the last week of pregnancy my friend tukar tu the puppy's food.


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ehehe ok ok kitten food... continue bagi ibu tu kitten food...

anyway long hair cat memang selalu ada masalah. especially the mix mix one... biasa lah, bila dah mix mix tu ada je kecacatan. sbb tu ada risiko bila mix mix kawin kucing ni.

as for long hair, normally before dia beranak, i akan bawa pergi vet check up. vet normally will trim bulu2 kat puting dia, untuk memudahkan anak menyusu. and my vet will check her nipples and check if she produce enough milk.

kalau u still feed the kitten with mother milk, u kena timbang kan kucing tu tiap tiap hari. untuk check increase in weight. mesti increase, no decrease ok!...

if u found decrease in weight, you need to bottle feed them with good pet milk beli kat petshop...

if the kitten weight increase while suckling the mother, then there should be problem...

as for now, u kena perhatikan, u suspek ibu dia kurang susu. so u kena imagine, 8 kitten suckling ibu kurang susu. so u need to weight semua kitten tu and see the different....

good luck bro smile.gif

p/s beli timbang yang murah untuk buat kuih tu je.. yang untuk timbang tepung tu.. kalu dah ada kat rumah boleh gak guna.. nanti bley cuci balik smile.gif

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I kena tipu dengan vet...teruk punye vet...

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Folks,

Any idea what type of ointment/cream for small cut or injuries on cats? Minyak gamat and Dettol are a no-no, of course.

My 3 legged cat, Oren is so prone to small accidents, unlike my other cat (pure kampung). I really think Oren is a mixed breed, since personality wise, he's quite laid back, friendly AND accident-prone cat (kucing bodoh, haha!)

I know I'm not suppose to bring the cat outside, but with my old maid taking care of 'em while I'm away, there's no other way. My cats are indoor during night and almost half of the day in house premise.

With Oren's clumsy habit, I definitely need to stock up a few medication for him. Better if its over-the-counter product. Been taking him to clinic for small injury almost every month.
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Elll...............

I kena tipu dengan vet...teruk punye vet...

RC 4kg kitten kat Petsmore baru Rm80 lbh...die jual kat I dulu 4kg RM110...nasib baik I tak bli kat die lagi...
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oh ye ke... im not sure bout 4kg price.. but i know Royal Canin Kitten 36 (10KG) is RM196...
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my new kitten seems to be not used to me.. how to make it more attached to me? some says stroke it at da chin and head.. is it true? (ive checked in other websites, many gives different opinions..) n is it true kittens r not suitable to free it off cage? i feel kesian looking at it purring at da cage's door..
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oh ye ke... im not sure bout 4kg price.. but i know Royal Canin Kitten 36 (10KG) is RM196...
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QUOTE(ssyy @ Nov 2 2008, 10:56 AM)
my new kitten seems to be not used to me.. how to make it more attached to me? some says stroke it at da chin and head.. is it true? (ive checked in other websites, many gives different opinions..) n is it true kittens r not suitable to free it off cage? i feel kesian looking at it purring at da cage's door..
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how long have you had the kitten? i think it's normal if the kitty is a bit scared or nervous (is that the right term? laugh.gif) if it was a stray.
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my cat's fur is not as beautiful as before .. a bit messy... why this thing happen??? is it bcoz of food ?

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 1 2008, 01:09 PM)
-ok,so if i just let her stay indoor for now will the fleas gone?? = YES FLEA WILL BE GONE IF YOU CONTINUE USING THE FLEA KILLER PRODUCT.

so that i don't need to take her to the vet or bath her ke??? = IF YOU USE THE SPOT ON, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BATH. IF YOU USE THE SPRAY TYPE, YOU NEED TO BATH AFTER 24-48HOURS.

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u kata kutu boleh membiak pada carpet and stuff dlm rumah kan,so xde ke solution utk kills all the fleas yg dlm rumah?my relative is having the same problem,and the doc asked them to use sabun kutu yg utk kucing tu and basuh lantai&carpet dgn sabun tu.will it work????? = THE NUMBER 1 SOLUTION IS "HYGIENE AND CLEAN HOME ENVIRONMENT". ALWAYS VACUUM, ALWAYS MOP YOUR FLOOR. KALAU ADA DUIT LEBIH, BAWA CARPET PERGI DOBI CUCI. NOT ONLY BILA ADA KUTU, BUT WHEN TAK ADA KUTU PUN KENA KERAPAT KEMAS RUMAH. BECAUSE YOU HAVE INDOOR PETS NOW, AND YOU HAVE SMALL CHILDREN KAN.

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do u have any website that i can see(pic would be better) the breeds of every cats in the world?? = YOU GO TO FIRST PAGE OF THIS THREAD, KAT SITU ADA MAKSUD DLH AND DSH..

AS FOR BREED TYPES, YOU CAN MAKE THIS WEBSITE AS REFERENCE LIST OF CATS BREED

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Nak bunuh semua kutu ni ambik masa, because your case ni macam kutu tu dah menyerang manusia. so it takes alil bit more time. sebab kutu ni jenis yang melompat lompat dan bergerak pantas.

the easiest way, if you have sangkar kucing, you sangkar dulu your cat. jangan bagi dia merayau2. sebab merayau ni dia boleh transmit kutu ke tempat lain or ambik kutu dari tempat lain ke tempat lain. like from living room to bed room. vice versa.

if she is in sangkar, put the sangkar away from benda2 seperti karpet. maybe dalam dapur. biasa dapur dia simen and tiles kan. yet must still be indoor. jangan letak sangat kat luar lak.

Spot on yang u guna tu, dia boleh tahan kat badan kucing 2-3 bulan. kalau kita mandi kan kucing pun ubat tu masih kekal dalam badan kucing.

yang spray punya jenis (frontline), you kena spray rata2 pada badan dan bulu kucing (tidak termasuk muka).. lepas tu tunggu 24-48jam. spray bagus untuk kutu yang byk. sbb spray lagi cepat membunuh. spot on biasa guna untuk protection kalo kutu tak byk. kalo u guna spray tu kan, u akan nampak kutu tu mampus dan lari lintang pukang macam di kejar hantu tongue.gif

and then, u kena kerap sikat bulu kucing guna penyikat kutu (ada jual kat petshop). why? u kena sikat telur2 kutu dan kutu2 mati. telur2 tu paling bahaya, sebelum dia membiak menetas, baik u sikat bagi jatuh dari badan kucing.

last skali, selalu selalu lah mandi kan kucing sampai kutu tu habis. mungkin seminggu sekali dengan shampoo kutu.

bila semua dah mati... jangan lak u bagi kucing u main di luar sad.gif sia sia je menghabiskan duit untuk membunuh kutu.
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rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif yea2!u help a lot just by telling me through forum!
ok i akan buat yg termampu!
but to return her to the owner i TAK NAK! mak i pon kata xyah pulangkan,sorok kat dlm umah!haha.. rolleyes.gif
cuma i keliru sikit antara spray-frontline-spot on hmm.gif ..xpe2 i kena wat research on cats la nampak nya.
dah lama sgt xsimpan kucing ni.last time (when i was lil girl) kucing yg biasa sgt,xpeduli pon pasal kutu and all..i xtaw apa2...hehe..mandikan je taw.. doh.gif
ok,ada apa2 hal i tanya lg ok..
next time i'll tunjuk kucing yg bermasalah ni..hehee..thanks!

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my new kitten seems to be not used to me.. how to make it more attached to me? some says stroke it at da chin and head.. is it true? (ive checked in other websites, many gives different opinions..) n is it true kittens r not suitable to free it off cage? i feel kesian looking at it purring at da cage's door..
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you just got your kitten right. so it takes times. cat will scrub themself on you to make you smell like them smile.gif thats how the bonding themself with you.

so u cannot show that you are scare of them. they know if you takut or berani. they know if you give fake love ehehehe.

always call their name is soft tone, not like angry tone eheheh..

if u have people in the house that like to shout, ask them to shut up.

provide as much as toys for her to play. kitten love newspaper.

you and the kitten, must always be together. if u only see her 2 hours a day, then its a hard job.

in some cases kitten is not suitable to be free off cage if they are too hyper. let say your house has so many nice expensive things from china, hong kong, paris, london... ofcourse you dont want to drop all that things right.. so some people prefer to keep it in cage while they off to work.. and create a cat room for them to play.

if u have big huge cage like 3 tiers, then it wont look pity.. but if u have very very small cage, which your kitten cant even move.. then that is so pity.
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 2 2008, 11:31 AM)
RC 10 kg...tak silap kat Petsmore leh dapat RM180 lbh klu ade membership..

El...kalau I bagi kucing I Science Plan...ok tak??baru jer tukar...
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yea im a member of petsmore too tongue.gif selalu pegi jalan peel punya cawangan smile.gif

saja jalan2 situ. dulu waktu i bagi iams and RC selalu ambik situ. but now no more.. jalan2 lepak2 je smile.gif

yeap science plan seem to be good if you cats like to eat it smile.gif beside, Science Plan is always a vet recommendation smile.gif

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QUOTE(joehan @ Nov 2 2008, 02:56 PM)
my cat's fur is not as beautiful as before .. a bit messy... why this thing happen??? is it bcoz of food ?

thanx!
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no.1 = Food .. what food you feeding? if the supermarket food, yes that is what you get. try to change to at least premium cat food like royal canin, science plan, proformance, iams, etc.

n0.2 = on heat and stress ... if you cat is not neuter/spay, stress and on heat can drop their fur. stress and on heat cat - when they are horny, they won't groom theirself.. all in their head is sex sex and sex tongue.gif

no.3 = grooming ... frequently groom your cat, which include, brushing/comb their fur everyday to make them nice. bath with good shampoo like from coconut oil (back 2 basic product), and a conditioner will make them look nice. if you have money, bring to grooming shop smile.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 2 2008, 03:46 PM)
yea im a member of petsmore too tongue.gif selalu pegi jalan peel punya cawangan smile.gif

saja jalan2 situ. dulu waktu i bagi iams and RC selalu ambik situ. but now no more.. jalan2 lepak2 je smile.gif

yeap science plan seem to be good if you cats like to eat it smile.gif beside, Science Plan is always a vet recommendation smile.gif
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waa...u pun member ek...samala rclxms.gif rclxms.gif ..but I baru jer...I rasa kan...cam nak gi cekik vet tu..penipu tol...

hmmm....el...I lupa nak tanye..kalau suntik vaccine biasanya ade skali tak untuk FIP/FIV??

kalau kat u nye vet brp RM??


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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 2 2008, 03:46 PM)
yea im a member of petsmore too tongue.gif selalu pegi jalan peel punya cawangan smile.gif

saja jalan2 situ. dulu waktu i bagi iams and RC selalu ambik situ. but now no more.. jalan2 lepak2 je smile.gif

yeap science plan seem to be good if you cats like to eat it smile.gif beside, Science Plan is always a vet recommendation smile.gif
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oo~ i always go there too! since it's near to my house. have to restock my cat's RC soon. so will be heading there again tongue.gif the last time i went there ada big husky! comel eeii~

too bad xboleh bela.. if not dah lama kidnap 1 . hehe
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oo~ i always go there too! since it's near to my house. have to restock my cat's RC soon. so will be heading there again tongue.gif the last time i went there ada big husky! comel eeii~

too bad xboleh bela.. if not dah lama kidnap 1 . hehe
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 2 2008, 04:49 PM)
waa...u pun member ek...samala  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif ..but I baru jer...I rasa kan...cam nak gi cekik vet tu..penipu tol...

hmmm....el...I lupa nak tanye..kalau suntik vaccine biasanya ade skali tak untuk FIP/FIV??

kalau kat u nye vet brp RM??
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tak de rasa nya.. biasa vaccine tu utk feline rhinotracheitis, calici, panluekopenia, chlamydia psittaci vaccine

FIP and FIV kebiasaan nya kena check darah dulu.. baru bley suntik dgn ubat khas FIP / FIV. tak bley suntik2 je kalo tak de FIP and FIV.

early last year, si Sky check up for FIP and FIV.. tapi i lupa lah pricing dia. but time tu dia buat kat Ukay Animal Centre, Ulu Klang, Ampang.
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 2 2008, 05:04 PM)
tak de rasa nya.. biasa vaccine tu utk feline rhinotracheitis, calici, panluekopenia, chlamydia psittaci vaccine

FIP and FIV kebiasaan nya kena check darah dulu.. baru bley suntik dgn ubat khas FIP / FIV. tak bley suntik2 je kalo tak de FIP and FIV.

early last year, si Sky check up for FIP and FIV.. tapi i lupa lah pricing dia. but time tu dia buat kat Ukay Animal Centre, Ulu Klang, Ampang.
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Added on November 2, 2008, 5:09 pmEl...


lagi satu cite...amoda skrg poo n pee dalam bilik air...


lega da....klu tak asyik basuh dapur je...

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jalan peel. u punya branch mana? next time can meet up lepak-lepak check cat stuff biggrin.gif
well.. theres a starbuck kat Queens Park tu ^^
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jalan peel. u punya branch mana? next time can meet up lepak-lepak check cat stuff biggrin.gif
well.. theres a starbuck kat Queens Park tu ^^
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jalan sultan pun pernah gi...oug pun prnh gak...jalan peel belum...

u tiap2 bulan gi sane?? ur cat food brand ape??

u slalu gi vet mane??I nak tukar vet la...cam tak ok je yg ni...

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hey my kitten she is almost 6 month and she is eating and drinking and playful,but the problem that she is not skinny but she is small compair to 6 month cat,he is still looks like 3 month kittey and the attitude also,but she is toilet trained already,
all i wanted 2 ask?
is she having grown up problem?
but she don't looks sick?
what shall i do?an advice before i decide 2 take her 2 doctor
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 2 2008, 05:26 PM)
jalan sultan pun pernah gi...oug pun prnh gak...jalan peel belum...

u tiap2 bulan gi sane?? ur cat food brand ape??

u slalu gi vet mane??I nak tukar vet la...cam tak ok je yg ni...
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baru je pegi 2 kali, tu pun xsengaja terjumpa sebab suppose cari pasir kucing kat carefour but mcm xde yg berkenan. so melencong kat Queens Park and jumpa. hehe.

b4 this my hitam eat whiskas, then about a month ago his fur drops out and kena serangan fleas (i posted about it on last thread.) so currently using IAMs and RC Skin & Fur. dah boleh nampak bulu tumbuh balik. but still tompok² le. nxt few weeks ok kot. i notice eversince using current food, dah jadi gemuk pulak doh.gif

vet, my aunty from Melaka works with gov vet. so if anything i just ran to her. lol.

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QUOTE(__mill @ Nov 2 2008, 05:40 PM)
baru je pegi 2 kali, tu pun xsengaja terjumpa sebab suppose cari pasir kucing kat carefour but mcm xde yg berkenan. so melencong kat Queens Park and jumpa. hehe.

b4 this my hitam eat whiskas, then about a month ago his fur drops out and kena serangan fleas (i posted about it on last thread.) so currently using IAMs and RC Skin & Fur. dah boleh nampak bulu tumbuh balik. but still tompok² le. nxt few weeks ok kot. i notice eversince using current food, dah jadi gemuk pulak doh.gif

vet, my aunty from Melaka works with gov vet.  so if anything i just ran to her. lol.

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ur hitam age?
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dekat 2 tahun. ^__^
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 1 2008, 04:37 PM)
ehehe ok ok kitten food... continue bagi ibu tu kitten food...

anyway long hair cat memang selalu ada masalah. especially the mix mix one... biasa lah, bila dah mix mix tu ada je kecacatan. sbb tu ada risiko bila mix mix kawin kucing ni.

as for long hair, normally before dia beranak, i akan bawa pergi vet check up. vet normally will trim bulu2 kat puting dia, untuk memudahkan anak menyusu. and my vet will check her nipples and check if she produce enough milk.

kalau u still feed the kitten with mother milk, u kena timbang kan kucing tu tiap tiap hari. untuk check increase in weight. mesti increase, no decrease ok!...

if u found decrease in weight, you need to bottle feed them with good pet milk beli kat petshop...

if the kitten weight increase while suckling the mother, then there should be problem...

as for now, u kena perhatikan, u suspek ibu dia kurang susu. so u kena imagine, 8 kitten suckling ibu kurang susu. so u need to weight semua kitten tu and see the different....

good luck bro smile.gif

p/s beli timbang yang murah untuk buat kuih tu je.. yang untuk timbang tepung tu.. kalu dah ada kat rumah boleh gak guna.. nanti bley cuci balik smile.gif
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sad news, 3 kitten died today cry.gif
foster mother(kucing betina rumah jiran) yg my friend gune tu tiba2 x nak menyusu the little kittens dah ptg semalam,so all nite long my friend had to bottle feed them using milkadog fomula. this morning pun dia cuba to see if the mother cat leh nurse xpi still the same...no susu but the nipples are sooo big hmm.gif
by late evening 3 kittens died cry.gif betulalah apa org tua tua kata, kucing persian nie harap jer lawa tapi byk masalah doh.gif ...lagi baik kucing kmpg kita nie ah...
setakat nie the remaining 5 ekor is looking good...i dnt think they mind suckling from the bottle but all im affraid is that the nutrisi...yalah semua tau yg mothers milk is the best milk...semahal milkadog tapi still not tat good compare to mummy's milk smile.gif
entahlah Elf...wat masa nie berdoalah lebih...hopefully faith will be on my side expecially nie ialah first litter dlm family.


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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Nov 3 2008, 12:31 AM)
sad news, 3 kitten died today cry.gif
foster mother(kucing betina rumah jiran) yg my friend gune tu tiba2 x nak menyusu the little kittens dah ptg semalam,so all nite long my friend had to bottle feed them using milkadog fomula. this morning pun dia cuba to see if the mother cat leh nurse xpi still the same...no susu but the nipples are sooo big hmm.gif
by late evening 3 kittens died cry.gif  betulalah apa org tua tua kata, kucing persian nie harap jer lawa tapi byk masalah doh.gif ...lagi baik kucing kmpg kita nie ah...
setakat nie the remaining 5 ekor is looking good...i dnt think they mind suckling from the bottle but all im affraid is that the nutrisi...yalah semua tau yg mothers milk is the best milk...semahal milkadog tapi still not tat good compare to mummy's milk smile.gif
entahlah Elf...wat masa nie berdoalah lebih...hopefully faith will be on my side expecially nie ialah first litter dlm family.
having kitten is not a easy job.

that puting bengkak, kalo tak kempis2 boleh jadi infection payu dara. so better watch out. that milk inside the mother mesti keluar habis, now it sound like blocking nipples. when it blocks, many things can appear especially infection.

my Abang, Adik, and Kakak are all bottle milk because people throw them infront shop in tissue box when they are less than 10 days. they grew up with factory milk tongue.gif yet still healthy. anyway they are kucing kampung, which means healthy. kucing mix mix ni payah, most of the mix mix kurang daya tahan badan. so need more extra care.

you need to check everything on the kitten, tengok jari jari, tengok bentuk badan, kena buka mulut tengok dalam mulut. long time ago, a friend of mine punya DLH give birth to 5 kitten, 3 of them mati, ingat kan mati sebab tak sihat. rupa rupa nya kecacatan... buka mulut and see tiada lelangit, no wonder susu tak masuk perut, all the susu keluar balik via nose. kesian.

most cats yang di mix kan dgn Persian flat face, kena hati hati. potential to produce kucing cacat. i saw some of them hidung senget, gigi ada panjang ada pendek, gigi terabur, sumbing, bibir tak rata etc.

hopefully you manage to handle the kittens and the mother.
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no.1 = Food .. what food you feeding? if the supermarket food, yes that is what you get. try to change to at least premium cat food like royal canin, science plan, proformance, iams, etc.

n0.2 = on heat and stress ... if you cat is not neuter/spay, stress and on heat can drop their fur. stress and on heat cat - when they are horny, they won't groom theirself.. all in their head is sex sex and sex tongue.gif

no.3 = grooming ... frequently groom your cat, which include, brushing/comb their fur everyday to make them nice. bath with good shampoo like from coconut oil (back 2 basic product), and a conditioner will make them look nice. if you have money, bring to grooming shop smile.gif
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thanx bro for the fast reply.

no1: i give my cat iams. planning to change to royal canin but too expensive .. hehe

no2: this might be the reason why. =p ... my friends told me that it is time for my cat to find his mate. but is it true that if we spot black color under the cat's mouth means that they r horny sweat.gif ?

no3: will try send my beloved cat for grooming if i have time.


thanx again for the tips!

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baru je pegi 2 kali, tu pun xsengaja terjumpa sebab suppose cari pasir kucing kat carefour but mcm xde yg berkenan. so melencong kat Queens Park and jumpa. hehe.

b4 this my hitam eat whiskas, then about a month ago his fur drops out and kena serangan fleas (i posted about it on last thread.) so currently using IAMs and RC Skin & Fur. dah boleh nampak bulu tumbuh balik. but still tompok² le. nxt few weeks ok kot. i notice eversince using current food, dah jadi gemuk pulak doh.gif

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 3 2008, 03:25 AM)
having kitten is not a easy job.

that puting bengkak, kalo tak kempis2 boleh jadi infection payu dara. so better watch out. that milk inside the mother mesti keluar habis, now it sound like blocking nipples. when it blocks, many things can appear especially infection.

my Abang, Adik, and Kakak are all bottle milk because people throw them infront shop in tissue box when they are less than 10 days. they grew up with factory milk tongue.gif yet still healthy. anyway they are kucing kampung, which means healthy. kucing mix mix ni payah, most of the mix mix kurang daya tahan badan. so need more extra care.

you need to check everything on the kitten, tengok jari jari, tengok bentuk badan, kena buka mulut tengok dalam mulut. long time ago, a friend of mine punya DLH give birth to 5 kitten, 3 of them mati, ingat kan mati sebab tak sihat. rupa rupa nya kecacatan... buka mulut and see tiada lelangit, no wonder susu tak masuk perut, all the susu keluar balik via nose. kesian.

most cats yang di mix kan dgn Persian flat face, kena hati hati. potential to produce kucing cacat. i saw some of them hidung senget, gigi ada panjang ada pendek, gigi terabur, sumbing, bibir tak rata etc.

hopefully you manage to handle the kittens and the mother.
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My sister plan to send our DLH for breeding.

I know that DLH got difficulty in giving birth. I;m so scared. cry.gif
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hey my kitten she is almost 6 month and she is eating and drinking and playful,but the problem that she is not skinny but she is small compair to 6 month cat,he is still looks like 3 month kittey and the attitude also,but she is toilet trained already,
all i wanted 2 ask?
is she having grown up problem?
but she don't looks sick?
what shall i do?an advice before i decide 2 take her 2 doctor


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ELF!!! My 13months old Momoy is pyometra positive.. She was given her 1st contraceptive jab in early May. In the mid of July, she showed some sickness symptoms such as dhearroea (am i spelling this correctly?), vomit and lost appetite. I sent her to our vet. This vet said she probably ate something poisonous. She was given some antibotic and anti-dhearroea.

Her condition wasnt better after a week. So i sent her to the same vet again. The vet gave suspected she was having enterhitis, since there was some brownish discharge from her private part. Thevet told me the dscharge was coming form her anal. She was given jabs for her liver and antibiotics. I asked the vet if her condition was related to that contraceptive jab he gave her, but he denied..

Last week, i went to a new vet (a very young vet) and asked her opinion. After some diagnostic and palpate, the vet told me that my Momoy is pyometra positive cry.gif cry.gif She's going for her pyometra spay on 9 Nov. Please pray for her....
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OMG, i'm sorry for that. Will pray for its safety. smile.gif

Whats pyometra spay anyway?

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My kitten is same problem with sweetsnoopy.
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OMG, i'm sorry for that. Will pray for its safety. smile.gif

Whats pyometra spay anyway?

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My kitten is same problem with sweetsnoopy.
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QUOTE(joehan @ Nov 3 2008, 04:16 AM)
thanx bro for the fast reply.

no1: i give my cat iams. planning to change to royal canin but too expensive .. hehe

no2: this might be the reason why. =p ... my friends told me that it is time for my cat to find his mate. but is it true that if we spot black color under the cat's mouth means that they r horny  sweat.gif  ?

no3: will try send my beloved cat for grooming if i have time.
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Iams should be ok, although i heard most feedback is fur drops.. but all you need to do is frequent grooming. we cannot blame food also, if your cat eat the most expensive food but now grooming will also make the fur drop.

I never hear about black color thing under cats mouth. but i know if it is below the chin its something like blackhead that we have on our face. most female cat will have this.

sign of horny the obvious one is, not eating, not grooming, weight drop, look terrible, look lazy, making loud sound.

sign of a male that is horny is, you check the tail.. one part of it look like oily.. eheh that is the meaning they are horny. be ready, they will spray your house with the male smell! yuck!
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QUOTE(sweetsnoopy99 @ Nov 3 2008, 12:09 PM)
hey my kitten she is almost 6 month and she is eating and drinking and playful,but the problem that she is not skinny but she is small compair to 6 month cat,he is still looks like 3 month kittey and the attitude also,but she is toilet trained already,
all i wanted 2 ask?
is she having grown up problem?
but she don't looks sick?
what shall i do?an advice before i decide 2 take her 2 doctor
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eheheh don't worry, all cats do not grow into the same size. just like us. short, tall, skinny, fat, average smile.gif

if she is healthy then everything is fine.

even they are siblings, the will be in different size.. example like my 3 siblings, the male is big and long in size, while female A is fat and short, and female B is long but slim.
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 3 2008, 12:47 PM)
ELF!!! My 13months old Momoy is pyometra positive.. She was given her 1st contraceptive jab in early May. In the mid of July, she showed some sickness symptoms such as dhearroea (am i spelling this correctly?), vomit and lost appetite. I sent her to our vet. This vet said she probably ate something poisonous. She was given some antibotic and anti-dhearroea.

Her condition wasnt better after a week. So i sent her to the same vet again. The vet gave suspected she was having enterhitis, since there was some brownish discharge from her private part. Thevet told me the dscharge was coming form her anal. She was given jabs for her liver and antibiotics. I asked the vet if her condition was related to that contraceptive jab he gave her, but he denied..

Last week, i went to a new vet (a very young vet) and asked her opinion. After some diagnostic and palpate, the vet told me that my Momoy is pyometra positive cry.gif cry.gif She's going for her pyometra spay on 9 Nov. Please pray for her....
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first of all, im so sorry to hear about Momoy. I hope she will recover from pyometra soon.

I know pyometra sound hurt, because its like bacteria infection internally via the vaginal. and urine are all with bacteria.

my vet said most female cat that did not spay will have potential to get pyometra disease.

spay momoy for her own good. so she don't suffer in pain anymore.

send my warm regard and kiss kiss to your momoy! update us her progress ya smile.gif
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What is Pyometra?

In its simplest terms, pyometra is an infection in the uterus. Most cases of pyometra are much more difficult to manage than a routine infection.

Infection in the lining of the uterus is established as a result of hormonal changes. Following estrus (heat), progesterone levels remain elevated for 8-10 weeks and thicken the lining of the uterus in preparation for pregnancy. If pregnancy does not occur for several estrus cycles, the lining continues to increase in thickness until cysts form within it. The thickened, cystic lining secretes fluids that create an ideal environment in which bacteria can grow. Additionally, high progesterone levels inhibit the ability of the muscles in the wall of the uterus to contract.

The use of progesterone-based drugs can do this. Estrogen will increase the effects of progesterone on the uterus. Drugs containing both hormones are used to treat certain conditions of the reproductive system. Spaying your female cat will prevent this disease.

How do bacteria get into the uterus?

The cervix is the gateway to the uterus. It remains tightly closed except during estrus. When it is open, bacteria that are normally found in the vagina can enter the uterus rather easily. If the uterus is normal, the environment is adverse to bacterial survival; when the uterine wall is thickened and cystic, perfect conditions exist for bacterial growth. When these abnormal conditions exist, the muscles of the uterus cannot contract properly. This means that bacteria that enter the uterus cannot be expelled.

Pyometra may occur in young to middle-aged cats; it is most common in older cats. After many years of estrus cycles without pregnancy, the uterine wall undergoes the changes that promote this disease.

The typical time for pyometra to occur is about 1-2 months following estrus.

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QUOTE(sweetsnoopy99 @ Nov 3 2008, 01:07 PM)
is ur kitten ok or had any medical problem?
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 3 2008, 01:54 PM)
eheheh don't worry, all cats do not grow into the same size. just like us. short, tall, skinny, fat, average smile.gif

if she is healthy then everything is fine.

even they are siblings, the will be in different size.. example like my 3 siblings, the male is big and long in size, while female A is fat and short, and female B is long but slim.
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 3 2008, 03:25 AM)
having kitten is not a easy job.

that puting bengkak, kalo tak kempis2 boleh jadi infection payu dara. so better watch out. that milk inside the mother mesti keluar habis, now it sound like blocking nipples. when it blocks, many things can appear especially infection.

my Abang, Adik, and Kakak are all bottle milk because people throw them infront shop in tissue box when they are less than 10 days. they grew up with factory milk tongue.gif yet still healthy. anyway they are kucing kampung, which means healthy. kucing mix mix ni payah, most of the mix mix kurang daya tahan badan. so need more extra care.

you need to check everything on the kitten, tengok jari jari, tengok bentuk badan, kena buka mulut tengok dalam mulut. long time ago, a friend of mine punya DLH give birth to 5 kitten, 3 of them mati, ingat kan mati sebab tak sihat. rupa rupa nya kecacatan... buka mulut and see tiada lelangit, no wonder susu tak masuk perut, all the susu keluar balik via nose. kesian.

most cats yang di mix kan dgn Persian flat face, kena hati hati. potential to produce kucing cacat. i saw some of them hidung senget, gigi ada panjang ada pendek, gigi terabur, sumbing, bibir tak rata etc.

hopefully you manage to handle the kittens and the mother.
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long time ago...I pun ade 1 kitten yg takde lelangit ...n at the end she died... cry.gif


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sad news, 3 kitten died today cry.gif
foster mother(kucing betina rumah jiran) yg my friend gune tu tiba2 x nak menyusu the little kittens dah ptg semalam,so all nite long my friend had to bottle feed them using milkadog fomula. this morning pun dia cuba to see if the mother cat leh nurse xpi still the same...no susu but the nipples are sooo big hmm.gif
by late evening 3 kittens died cry.gif  betulalah apa org tua tua kata, kucing persian nie harap jer lawa tapi byk masalah doh.gif ...lagi baik kucing kmpg kita nie ah...
setakat nie the remaining 5 ekor is looking good...i dnt think they mind suckling from the bottle but all im affraid is that the nutrisi...yalah semua tau yg mothers milk is the best milk...semahal milkadog tapi still not tat good compare to mummy's milk smile.gif
entahlah Elf...wat masa nie berdoalah lebih...hopefully faith will be on my side expecially nie ialah first litter dlm family.


Added on November 3, 2008, 12:33 am
cik ina...say pun ahli petsmore tongue.gif ...tapi ash selalu pie kat cawangan ss15 subang jaya, sbb tulah yg paling dekat gan tmpt tinggal saya.
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samela kite... rclxm9.gif sane price ok gak kan...


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hai el...

long time ago...I pun ade 1 kitten yg takde lelangit ...n at the end she died... cry.gif
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yea very low percentage of this kitten to grow.. the most is normally 3 days.

depends on how big is the hole, if it is sumbing, vet can do surgery on it, but they need to wait till the kitten grow dulu. while growing the kitten will be feed by using tube/hos from mouth direct to the stomach. sound painful right sad.gif even human yang masuk tube dari hidung, kerongkong, mulut > dah meraung raung kesakitan. apa kan makhluk allah sekecil kitten sad.gif

but then, still very less of this kitten stay alive in the vets aswell..
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Erm, lelangit tu.... ape?
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yea very low percentage of this kitten to grow.. the most is normally 3 days.

depends on how big is the hole, if it is sumbing, vet can do surgery on it, but they need to wait till the kitten grow dulu. while growing the kitten will be feed by using tube/hos from mouth direct to the stomach. sound painful right sad.gif even human yang masuk tube dari hidung, kerongkong, mulut > dah meraung raung kesakitan. apa kan makhluk allah sekecil kitten sad.gif

but then, still very less of this kitten stay alive in the vets aswell..
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Erm, lelangit tu.... ape?
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 3 2008, 12:47 PM)
ELF!!! My 13months old Momoy is pyometra positive.. She was given her 1st contraceptive jab in early May. In the mid of July, she showed some sickness symptoms such as dhearroea (am i spelling this correctly?), vomit and lost appetite. I sent her to our vet. This vet said she probably ate something poisonous. She was given some antibotic and anti-dhearroea.

Her condition wasnt better after a week. So i sent her to the same vet again. The vet gave suspected she was having enterhitis, since there was some brownish discharge from her private part. Thevet told me the dscharge was coming form her anal. She was given jabs for her liver and antibiotics. I asked the vet if her condition was related to that contraceptive jab he gave her, but he denied..

Last week, i went to a new vet (a very young vet) and asked her opinion. After some diagnostic and palpate, the vet told me that my Momoy is pyometra positive cry.gif cry.gif She's going for her pyometra spay on 9 Nov. Please pray for her....
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apasal lah semua kucing sakit nie...bulan NOV nie bulan sakit kucing kot??? :

anyway nicoty_yne...my pryers are for Momoy,dont worry with your enduring love and the vets expetise she will fight this battle and win it.


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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 3 2008, 08:15 PM)
hai el...

long time ago...I pun ade 1 kitten yg takde lelangit ...n at the end she died... cry.gif


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samela kite... rclxm9.gif  sane price ok gak kan...
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well cik ina, i dah pernah pie kat cawangan jln sultan dulu and i see the price is all the same, cuma staff kat SS15 nie lebih friendly and wen u walk in to the shop...ramai2 greet kita so terasa cam special plak...kat jln sultan tu hampe jer....cam x nak layan plak sad.gif
kat SS15 nie i made friends with few of them hence kalo beli apa dapat % baik punya, cetain item yg dapt 5% tu str8 i dapat 10%...hehehehehe, rasa cam amik kesempatan plak. But Ash x selalu shopping kat sana...kalo nak beli makan jer and sometimes toys kalo ada yg bekenan lah di hati.
kalo pasir nie semua Ash beli kat Car4 jer.

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Speaking of kucing sakit, my cat, Oren has been quarantined in clinic for 3 days cos of Jaundice (demam kuning) yesterday. Aiyoyoyo. We didn't realized the signs since he has yellow eyes and yellow fur (Cause he was all yelloww..-Coldplay). Thankfully the vet called this afternoon and informed that Oren is progressing;

1) He started eating. Appetite increased. (He has not been eating for 2 days, so its a good progress).

2) The yellow-ness on him (ears, mouth, eyes and paw) starts to pinked up. (again, good progress)

The cause of this disease, my speculation is cos of the construction next door. My cats love to guling2 outdoor, and cement sands are everywhere [chemicals]. My selfish neighbor's house has been under construction for almost four years. My late Belang died from jaundice 3 yrs ago. He was 9 yrs old.

Hope we're lucky with Oren this time.

Here's a few readings on Jaundice

Description: Cats that have jaundice develop a yellowish color to their skin, gums, and the whites of their eyes because of deposits of bile pigment in their body tissues.

Prevention:
There are no preventives other than prohibiting cats from consuming medications, chemicals, and toxic plants that cause jaundice. Also, getting medical attention for cats showing the initial symptoms of jaundice may improve the prognosis. An owner should seek veterinary care if the cat is overweight and refuses to eat for longer than two to three days in a row.

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elfreakz, and all buddies!this is my BoBo! smile.gif
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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Nov 4 2008, 01:40 AM)
apasal lah semua kucing sakit nie...bulan NOV nie bulan sakit kucing kot??? :

anyway nicoty_yne...my pryers are for Momoy,dont worry with your enduring love and the vets expetise she will fight this battle and win it.


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well cik ina, i dah pernah pie kat cawangan jln sultan dulu and i see the price is all the same, cuma staff kat SS15 nie lebih friendly and wen u walk in to the shop...ramai2 greet kita so terasa cam special plak...kat jln sultan tu hampe jer....cam x nak layan plak sad.gif
kat SS15 nie i made friends with few of them hence kalo beli apa dapat % baik punya, cetain item yg dapt 5% tu str8 i dapat 10%...hehehehehe, rasa cam amik kesempatan plak. But Ash x selalu shopping kat sana...kalo nak beli makan jer and sometimes toys kalo ada yg bekenan lah di hati.
kalo pasir nie semua Ash beli kat Car4 jer.
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elfreakz, and all buddies!this is my BoBo! smile.gif
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what color is that black white? or blue(kelabu) white?

so nice eh!!!
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 6 2008, 09:19 AM)
Thanx ELF and ASH. Momoy was scheduled to be spay on this Sunday, 9 NOV .. But the vet said the chances is 50-50, depends on her pyometra seriousness.. Wll keep u guys update. Maybe i can ask the vet's assistant to snap snap photo of the surgery to publish here. Please pray for MOmoy.  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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at least there's a good news, because the chances is still 50-50. i will pray for your cat...

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My 4 months old cat has been acting weirdly these past few weeks..he litters everywhere (1-2 times at one period at different places first the feces is a bit hard but the second one is softer) although i provided the litter box...and funnily sometimes he went into the box but his @ss is outside the box...and he's been vomiting here and there which looks like his dropping (greenish)..planned to go to the vet today.. :-(
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My 4 months old cat has been acting weirdly these past few weeks..he litters everywhere (1-2 times at one period at different places first the feces is a bit hard but the second one is softer) although i provided the litter box...and funnily sometimes he went into the box but his @ss is outside the box...and he's been vomiting here and there which looks like his dropping (greenish)..planned to go to the vet today.. :-(
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oh gosh, hope nothing too serious. probably food poisoning ?(the vomiting case) my Hitam used to vomit last time, turn out the food doesnt suit him. oh perhaps u need to provide bigger litter box for your kitty? sweat.gif



Mimzy! That's one beautiful cat you have there ~ big round eyes wub.gif


so any of you going for the cat event? the place is abit far from public trans >_<; doubt i can go.
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QUOTE(jep @ Nov 6 2008, 03:31 PM)
My 4 months old cat has been acting weirdly these past few weeks..he litters everywhere (1-2 times at one period at different places first the feces is a bit hard but the second one is softer) although i provided the litter box...and funnily sometimes he went into the box but his @ss is outside the box...and he's been vomiting here and there which looks like his dropping (greenish)..planned to go to the vet today.. :-(
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hairball problem perhaps??
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QUOTE(jep @ Nov 6 2008, 03:31 PM)
My 4 months old cat has been acting weirdly these past few weeks..he litters everywhere (1-2 times at one period at different places first the feces is a bit hard but the second one is softer) although i provided the litter box...and funnily sometimes he went into the box but his @ss is outside the box...and he's been vomiting here and there which looks like his dropping (greenish)..planned to go to the vet today.. :-(
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soft poop is not a good sign

vomiting with green green thinggy is not a good sign

have you ever deworm your cat anyway?

vet is the only solution.
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Thanx ELF and ASH. Momoy was scheduled to be spay on this Sunday, 9 NOV .. But the vet said the chances is 50-50, depends on her pyometra seriousness.. Wll keep u guys update. Maybe i can ask the vet's assistant to snap snap photo of the surgery to publish here. Please pray for MOmoy.  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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50-50 is consider good rather than nuttin at all...anything could happend so we shall focus on the positive side smile.gif
my sincere prayers are for MOmoy and also for you to be strong during this challenging period, stay strong thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(jep @ Nov 6 2008, 03:31 PM)
My 4 months old cat has been acting weirdly these past few weeks..he litters everywhere (1-2 times at one period at different places first the feces is a bit hard but the second one is softer) although i provided the litter box...and funnily sometimes he went into the box but his @ss is outside the box...and he's been vomiting here and there which looks like his dropping (greenish)..planned to go to the vet today.. :-(
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Hmm, that's weird.. What did u feed it?? I think it's smth wrong with the food


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HAha

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hi aasrul...
can u send fedra n paloma pic again...

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hi asrul,

nice pictures of paloma and erika smile.gif erika looks so sweet n cute drool.gif
tapi gambar si fedra x dpt nak bukak lah cry.gif ...


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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 6 2008, 02:57 PM)
OH MY! look at that eyes!!! so attractive!! geraammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

what color is that black white? or blue(kelabu) white?

so nice eh!!!
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I am not so sure lah elfreakz..if in dark places she'll look more to black,and in bright places mcm grey2 sikit!
haha hmm.gif tp rasanya grey lah..hahaa..

eh..how often shud i feed her ahh?
sekarang ni i 'train' die tido dgn i,and i bawak sekali makanan die because die akn cari makanan around 12am onwards!
is it okay for her to take a late supper??
die kerap mkn kdg2 bnyk and mostly sikit!
kalau yg terdedah je sure la kan xmau mkn..huhuh doh.gif

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hehe..thanx..a tux uh..she has a tux..hahaa..

here some more..im tryng to show u guys pic yg lebih berkualiti,tp minah ni ssh sikit..hehe..

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hey same as mine..
its ok if its my bed,but she also hijack my parents bed! doh.gif
aiyoo..xpasal i kena bising!
bila i suruh turun she'll baring,suruh lg die letak kepala dia tu kat lengan.. tongue.gif u know the way cats sleep.. doh.gif

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QUOTE(Mimzy @ Nov 8 2008, 10:00 PM)
I am not so sure lah elfreakz..if in dark places she'll look more to black,and in bright places mcm grey2 sikit!
haha hmm.gif tp rasanya grey lah..hahaa..

eh..how often shud i feed her ahh?
sekarang ni i 'train' die tido dgn i,and i bawak sekali makanan die because die akn cari makanan around 12am onwards!
is it okay for her to take a late supper??
die kerap mkn kdg2 bnyk and mostly sikit!
kalau yg terdedah je sure la kan xmau mkn..huhuh doh.gif
hehe..thanx..a tux uh..she has a tux..hahaa..
its look like black smoke color from the new pic.. macam hitam ada dark brown.. tapi susah gak tengok dari pic, kadang2 lighting boleh tukar warna asal. so hanya you yang tau smile.gif

just let your cat eat... as long as it is a good food. you only control if your cat is over weight.
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guys! good news tomorrow someone want to give me a persian cat for free!. bcoz his son has allergic due to cat.. yeaahhhhh will show up some pichehe
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 8 2008, 03:28 PM)
hi aasrul...
can u send fedra n paloma pic again...
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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Nov 8 2008, 04:12 PM)
hi asrul,

nice pictures of paloma and erika smile.gif  erika looks so sweet n cute drool.gif
tapi gambar si fedra x dpt nak bukak lah cry.gif ...


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this is repost pic of fedra,
dont know why the 1st post doesnt come out with the pic rclxub.gif

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i didnt have their pic now.
all the pic are in my laptop.
now using my friend's.

btw, erica is so naughty.
she always disturb ppl who watch tv. doh.gif

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hi alll im new here..
just wanna ask u guys, my cat now like obesiti.. he always sleep after eat..
an dont play to much.. persian female.. and selalu merajuk when we scold her..
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QUOTE(mousepad87 @ Nov 9 2008, 10:18 PM)
guys! good news tomorrow someone want to give me a persian cat for free!. bcoz his son has allergic due to cat.. yeaahhhhh will show up some pichehe
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huhuhuh... sad.gif xaci2..nak jugak!!..huhuh...jelexnye..free pulak tu.. cry.gif hahaha..
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QUOTE(merah @ Nov 10 2008, 12:34 AM)
hi alll im new here..
just wanna ask u guys, my cat now like obesiti.. he always sleep after eat..
an dont play to much.. persian female.. and selalu merajuk when we scold her..
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First check the food. What food brand you feeding?

Second, go to the vet for medical check up. make sure she do not suffer from any over weight sickness such as heart problem.

Third, ask vet for advice, they might want u to change food, or maybe diet your cat.

If you have one cat, try to get another one, maybe a kitten, so she can play with them. at least she is not bored, eat, and sleep all the time tongue.gif
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Eh narik, nih kalau nak masuk setakat suka2 ley?
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haha .. if my cat like that, sure head kena tepuk edi ..  tongue.gif
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haha, his head kena tepuk before. Still like to sleep on my bed.

Perhaps it explains why I can hardly take good naps.

Because he occupies my bed in the afternoons!
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haha, his head kena tepuk before. Still like to sleep on my bed.

Perhaps it explains why I can hardly take good naps.

Because he occupies my bed in the afternoons!
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Alamak El, aku kena ringworm ar....aku google2 kt tenet, it says the main source is cats!!!Aiyaaa!!
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Home cat memang join untuk suka suka.. unless you have pedigree cat than u compete for points.
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Alamak El, aku kena ringworm ar....aku google2 kt tenet, it says the main source is cats!!!Aiyaaa!!
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if you have cats, then u get ringworm from them...

ko kena pergi clinic tau, kalau teruk, doktor akan inject and bagi krim.
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Got entry limit one eh ~~~ Anyway, if just go as a visitor can? Go there and see see but not bring any cat ~
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yes sure can...

read their website, they already mention = • The show will be opened to the public from 10.00 am onwards.
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Ya thanks for the info ^^
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hello cat owner
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im a happy cat owner ! hitam's fur grows beautifully ~ (finally not so botak anymore doh.gif)

btw, elf + everyone else,

are you guys familiar with this small tree that cats love to chew on it's root? er .. i dont know the name. the leaves look like peppermint leaves tapi im sure it's a different kind of tree. sapa² tau nama pokok ni ?
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im a happy cat owner ! hitam's fur grows beautifully ~ (finally not so botak anymore doh.gif)

btw, elf + everyone else,

are you guys familiar with this small tree that cats love to chew on it's root? er .. i dont know the name. the leaves look like peppermint leaves tapi  im sure it's a different kind of tree. sapa² tau nama pokok ni ?
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mill...ade pic tak?

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pokok misai kucing (catnip)

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Pokok Kucing Galak => http://www.mykucing.com/index.php/topic,216.0.html


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ELF!! thanks! that's the one~


pokok kucing galak.. haha.. sound abit funny >_>;;

but susah nak cari pokok tu skarang ni. dulu byk tumbuh blakang rumah .. now dah takde ..

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Saya selalu jugak bg kucing catnip tp kesian plak tgk derang keletihan lepas "layan" catnip tu...huhu...anyway xde side effect ke kt kucing catnip nie?
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Saya selalu jugak bg kucing catnip tp kesian plak tgk derang keletihan lepas "layan" catnip tu...huhu...anyway xde side effect ke kt kucing catnip nie?
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as long as the pokok tak kena racun serangga then ok tongue.gif jangan lak pokok yang ada racun untuk serangga then u give tu your cat tongue.gif sah sah kena racun waktu main dan kunyah daun tu..
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ELF!! Help!

Momoy was spayed on Sunday, 9 Nov. Actually she was supposed to stay in the clinic. But since she is very fierce, the vet allowed me to take her home yesterday. No use if she stay in the clinic. The staffs dont dare to touch her, so they cant inspect her sticthes and clean her.

Another problem, she's not eating since i sent her to spay.. I bait her with all her fave food - boiled chicken, fish, kibble foods.. but failed.

Anything i should/shouldn't do to fasten her recovery process? Can i put hot pressure (tuam) on her stitches?
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ELF!! Help!

Momoy was spayed on Sunday, 9 Nov. Actually she was supposed to stay in the clinic. But since she is very fierce, the vet allowed me to take her home yesterday. No use if she stay in the clinic. The staffs dont dare to touch her, so they cant inspect her sticthes and clean her.

Another problem, she's not eating since i sent her to spay.. I bait her with all her fave food - boiled chicken, fish, kibble foods.. but failed.

Anything i should/shouldn't do to fasten her recovery process? Can i put hot pressure (tuam) on her stitches?
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aik.. sound like she is so STRESS now...

did u try to offer cane food? the Science Plan/whiskies, friskies, snappy tom punya brand? during my cat kembiri they eat this for few days, with alil bit of kibbles.

female memang agak culture shock with kembiri, because it was a cut and surgery. not like male.

if u have other cat at home, please separate them. if possible don't let them see each other.

if u cage the spayed female, cover it with towel. let her reduce the stress.

9th november, and not eating something till now, is like starving? did she drink? did u see any urine or stool in the litter?

is she acting ok? or getting tired and tired?

is the stitches ok? good bleeding or dry?

hmm dont "tuam" yet, she is still stress. for now, make sure she don't like and open the stitches and make sure it dry always.
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aik.. sound like she is so STRESS now...

did u try to offer cane food? the Science Plan/whiskies, friskies, snappy tom punya brand? during my cat kembiri they eat this for few days, with alil bit of kibbles.

I brought her back on 11th nov because there's nothing the vet can do to her there. She's very fierce and she wont allow any hands to touch her, except me. The vet told me she ate a little during the 1st day, but i dont think she ate. That's why i brought her home to her normal environment. Started from yesterday evening, i tried to feed her with Hill's Preescription Diet a/d. I mix with water and pump it into her mouth. She managed to swallow a few tubes. But this morning, when i wanted to feed her, she suddenly vomit. Banyak pulak tu. Is it because perut dia masuk angin?

female memang agak culture shock with kembiri, because it was a cut and surgery. not like male.
if u have other cat at home, please separate them. if possible don't let them see each other.

Yes, i have another 2 kittens. But they dont disturbed her at all.. They're using the living area. So, I place Momoy's cage in my bedroom.

if u cage the spayed female, cover it with towel. let her reduce the stress.

Her temperature is a bit higher than normal. And sometimes, she looks like hot. So i cant cover her cage. I switch on a slow fan for her inside my bedroom.

9th november, and not eating something till now, is like starving? did she drink? did u see any urine or stool in the litter?

She didnt drink at all. But yes, she urinate 2-3 times daily. The urine is a bit darker that normal. But no stool at all.. I feed her with glucose water, but she cant swallow it. Everytime i pump water into her mouth, she will act like tercekik. Looked like having problem to swallow the plain water.
She's not using her litterbox i place in her cage. Instead, she peed inside her sleeping tray. Is it because i put a mesh on her litterbox to avoid the sand to attach to her skin? So this morning, i placed a bathmat and her small cushion inside her cage and removed the sleeping tray.


is she acting ok? or getting tired and tired?

I think she's getting tired and tired. I'm so worried icon_question.gif I asked the vet, but the vet said it's normal for spayed female to behave like that until she recover.. She asked me to keep feeding with Hill's a/d. But i think, vomit is a bad sign.... So, do u think it's good to find a new vet before it's too late? I called some vet, but they refused to take Momoy's case since they didnt do the surgery. They asked me to get back to the same vet. I called the same vet this morning. She asked me to bring Momoy to her clinic untuk masuk drip dalam badan dia... maybe this way can stop her from vomit.

is the stitches ok? good bleeding or dry?

The stitches looks ok. No bleeding and it's dry. Except there's some dried iodin. I tried to wipe it with a solution, but everytime the wool touch her skin, she'll cries in pain...

hmm dont "tuam" yet, she is still stress. for now, make sure she don't like and open the stitches and make sure it dry always.

But, she always wet her bottom (because she peed in her sleeping tray) So every evening when i reach home, i'll wipe her with a damp cloth and check her stitches.

Today i'll rush her to the vet again for dripping. Please pray for Momoy, guys..

Elf, i read in somewhere else - "Death occurs from pyometra when the uterus ruptures and the toxic material spills into the abdomen, causing peritonitis. Death can also occur by the infection spreading to the bloodstream, a condition know as sepsis; or from severe dehydration leading to hypovolemic shock," Do u think this is what happen to Momoy? Because the vet told me there was some pus spilled out when she cut the sack.

ELF, i'm panic and i dont know what to do icon_question.gif ... But i dont want to lose her cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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aik.. sound like she is so STRESS now...

did u try to offer cane food? the Science Plan/whiskies, friskies, snappy tom punya brand? during my cat kembiri they eat this for few days, with alil bit of kibbles.

I brought her back on 11th nov because there's nothing the vet can do to her there. She's very fierce and she wont allow any hands to touch her, except me. The vet told me she ate a little during the 1st day, but i dont think she ate. That's why i brought her home to her normal environment. Started from yesterday evening, i tried to feed her with Hill's Preescription Diet a/d. I mix with water and pump it into her mouth. She managed to swallow a few tubes. But this morning, when i wanted to feed her, she suddenly vomit. Banyak pulak tu. Is it because perut dia masuk angin?

female memang agak culture shock with kembiri, because it was a cut and surgery. not like male.
if u have other cat at home, please separate them. if possible don't let them see each other.

Yes, i have another 2 kittens. But they dont disturbed her at all.. They're using the living area. So, I place Momoy's cage in my bedroom.

if u cage the spayed female, cover it with towel. let her reduce the stress.

Her temperature is a bit higher than normal. And sometimes, she looks like hot. So i cant cover her cage. I switch on a slow fan for her inside my bedroom.

9th november, and not eating something till now, is like starving? did she drink? did u see any urine or stool in the litter?

She didnt drink at all. But yes, she urinate 2-3 times daily. The urine is a bit darker that normal. But no stool at all.. I feed her with glucose water, but she cant swallow it. Everytime i pump water into her mouth, she will act like tercekik. Looked like having problem to swallow the plain water.
She's not using her litterbox i place in her cage. Instead, she peed inside her sleeping tray. Is it because i put a mesh on her litterbox to avoid the sand to attach to her skin? So this morning, i placed a bathmat and her small cushion inside her cage and removed the sleeping tray.


is she acting ok? or getting tired and tired?

I think she's getting tired and tired. I'm so worried icon_question.gif I asked the vet, but the vet said it's normal for spayed female to behave like that until she recover.. She asked me to keep feeding with Hill's a/d. But i think, vomit is a bad sign.... So, do u think it's good to find a new vet before it's too late? I called some vet, but they refused to take Momoy's case since they didnt do the surgery. They asked me to get back to the same vet. I called the same vet this morning. She asked me to bring Momoy to her clinic untuk masuk drip dalam badan dia... maybe this way can stop her from vomit.

is the stitches ok? good bleeding or dry?

The stitches looks ok. No bleeding and it's dry. Except there's some dried iodin. I tried to wipe it with a solution, but everytime the wool touch her skin, she'll cries in pain...

hmm dont "tuam" yet, she is still stress. for now, make sure she don't like and open the stitches and make sure it dry always.

But, she always wet her bottom (because she peed in her sleeping tray) So every evening when i reach home, i'll wipe her with a damp cloth and check her stitches.

Today i'll rush her to the vet again for dripping. Please pray for Momoy, guys..

Elf, i read in somewhere else - "Death occurs from pyometra when the uterus ruptures and the toxic material spills into the abdomen, causing peritonitis. Death can also occur by the infection spreading to the bloodstream, a condition know as sepsis; or from severe dehydration leading to hypovolemic shock," Do u think this is what happen to Momoy? Because the vet told me there was some pus spilled out when she cut the sack.

ELF, i'm panic and  i dont know what to do icon_question.gif ... But i dont want to lose her cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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my oh my.. i'm so sorry to hear all this nicoty_yne

vomiting after spayed can be normal, and can also be not normal. most of cat including human, after surgery we do feel want to vomit, because of the medicine effect. but continuous vomiting is not a good sign.

not eating for the first day is normally too for female. they will feel alil bit restless. like finding place to rest. and feel something different to their body. Your case, momoy is not eating for such a long time sad.gif

yes some of my cats (female), urinate outside their litter box during after spayed. it may cause because of its hurt to walk, so they just pee at the same place. but thats only happened during the first day. in your case, it is seriously the pee showing pain, which normally happen to cat, they will pee and poo outside litterbox to show that something wrong happen to them.

which vet do u visit anyway??? my vet normally advice me to come back 3 days if there is something go wrong. the reason why other vet do not want to handle momoy because, they don't know what the vet did before. the other vet fault may also become the new vet fault. thats why they want u to bring momoy back to the first vet.

yes spay/neuter can bring death. more to the female, but less to the male. female gonna be in some sort like a big surgery. thus, clean environment is very very important (clean vet). cat that is spay/neuter with no vaccination will also have high risk. why they always ask if your cat has been vaccine before or not? this is because to make sure that your cat is stay up to date with their health. if your cat is vaccine, they know he/she in good condition - that tell them you visited vet for check up. vaccine cat will have stronger body than non vaccine cat.

by going back to the vet is the best solution.

i pray for her health. get well soon!
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oh wow..so serious lah Momoy conditions...

she was spayed when she reached adulthood eh el?
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oh wow..so serious lah Momoy conditions...

she was spayed when she reached adulthood eh el?
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erm..i got these DLH kittens..after bathing them, they became smelly again b4 the end of the day..i dunno how to describe the smell..but not the poo smell lah..do u guys have any recommendation of wat type of syampoo to use for DLH? or can just use any type?

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I sent Momoy to the same vet (Dr T) who performed the spay at 4pm yesterday. The vet inspected her then told me that she got jaundice. The vet said, during the surgery there was pus inside her horns. The pus spilled a bit and maybe the pus has entered her bloodstream and got into the liver. That's how she got the jaundice. The vet gave a jab, said it is for the liver. She was given 250ml IV fluid, a medicine to stop her from vomit and they force-feed her. They fed her with a bowl of Hills Perscription Diet i/d. We left the vet at 5.30pm.

But at 8.30pm, when i wanted to feed her medicine, she vomit again. So i gave her the anti-vomit medicine, waited for 30 minutes, then fed her antibiotic and painkiller.

1.30 midnite, i feed her with 10ml Hills Persciption Diet a/d and some glukose water. But at the same time, i found out than below her right front leg looked flabby. The other side looked ok, no flabby. I touched that part and pressed a bit, but Momoy didnt show any pain.

This is the photo i snapped. Can u see the flabby part at her front leg?
This morning i found Momoy laying in her litterbox, but i found urine inside her sleeping tray. At 8.00am, i fed her the same diet (a/d) and gave her medicine for the liver (pills and clear liquid). So far she was not vomit, but looked nausea. The flabby part was still there, but not as flabby as last nite. Do u think it is because of the IV fluid? Then why it goes to below of her right front leg? I tried to call the vet, but today is their off-day. I called their emergency number, still cant get them sad.gif Damn...!

I think all of these happen because of my mistake. I never vaccined her before. I wanted to vaccine her when she was 7months old (may 2008), but my previous vet (Dr P) asked me to wait. He gave the contraceptive jab in May 2008, dewormed Momoy in June. I thought i can vaccine her in July, And Momoy showed sickness (vomit, diarrhoea) in July. And since then she was give prescription for entheritis and GI by Dr P, until October. I referred Momoy to Dr T (the new vet) at the end of Oct and that's how we know she got pyometra! And that's why i never had a chance to vaccine her cry.gif

And now she got jaundice and i hope it doesnt slim her chance to survive cry.gif cry.gif

Dr T know Momoy is not vaccined yet before she preformed the spay. But she said she has to do the pyometra removal quickly before it spread and get worse.

I dont know what to do. I've done the best and i just let God decide her fate. But i hope if she has no chance to survive, she wont suffer long sad.gif Please pray for Momoy. Thanx.
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erm..i got these DLH kittens..after bathing them, they became smelly again b4 the end of the day..i dunno how to describe the smell..but not the poo smell lah..do u guys have any recommendation of wat type of syampoo to use for DLH? or can just use any type?
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ahahah they will always be smelly because they lick their fur every hours and days... for sure the shampoo won't stick that long...

if your case is like not last for few days.. then u need the expensive shampoo..

the one cost rm40 and above. i'm using back2basic shampoo with coconut smell..

and then conditioner, get the one almost the same price.. i'm using Espree brand..

it can last more between 1 - 2 weeks.

when u shampoo and conditioner, leave it for like 5 minutes for each. don't pour water right after u brush their fur. let the shampoo and conditioner stay alil bit longer.

p/s some people like to use powder, leave on conditioner for their cats.. but i never try that. maybe u can have a look at this type of fragrance.

p/s make sure it is safe on animal. my cat has no problem with back2basic and espree product.

p/s i always like natural product, like back2basic is using oatmeal.
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my sister's cat is sick.
he doesnt have the appetite to eat and not breathing well.
last week he got a fever. already sent him to gov clinic twice. sadly in terengganu i cant find a private vet clinic. sad.gif
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I sent Momoy to the same vet (Dr T) who performed the spay at 4pm yesterday. The vet inspected her then told me that she got jaundice. The vet said, during the surgery there was pus inside her horns. The pus spilled a bit and maybe the pus has entered her bloodstream and got into the liver. That's how she got the jaundice. The vet gave a jab, said it is for the liver. She was given 250ml IV fluid, a medicine to stop her from vomit and they force-feed her. They fed her with a bowl of Hills Perscription Diet i/d. We left the vet at 5.30pm.

But at 8.30pm, when i wanted to feed her medicine, she vomit again. So i gave her the anti-vomit medicine, waited for 30 minutes, then fed her antibiotic and painkiller.

1.30 midnite, i feed her with 10ml Hills Persciption Diet a/d and some glukose water. But at the same time, i found out than below her right front leg looked flabby. The other side looked ok, no flabby. I touched that part and pressed a bit, but Momoy didnt show any pain.

This is the photo i snapped. Can u see the flabby part at her front leg?
This morning i found Momoy laying in her litterbox, but i found urine inside her sleeping tray. At 8.00am, i fed her the same diet (a/d) and gave her medicine for the liver (pills and clear liquid). So far she was not vomit, but looked nausea. The flabby part was still there, but not as flabby as last nite. Do u think it is because of the IV fluid? Then why it goes to below of her right front leg? I tried to call the vet, but today is their off-day. I called their emergency number, still cant get them sad.gif Damn...!

I think all of these happen because of my mistake. I never vaccined her before. I wanted to vaccine her when she was 7months old (may 2008), but my previous vet (Dr P) asked me to wait. He gave the contraceptive jab in May 2008, dewormed Momoy in June. I thought i can vaccine her in July, And Momoy showed sickness (vomit, diarrhoea) in July. And since then she was give prescription for entheritis and GI by Dr P, until October. I referred Momoy to Dr T (the new vet) at the end of Oct and that's how we know she got pyometra! And that's why i never had a chance to vaccine her cry.gif

And now she got jaundice and i hope it doesnt slim her chance to survive cry.gif cry.gif

Dr T know Momoy is not vaccined yet before she preformed the spay. But she said she has to do the pyometra removal quickly before it spread and get worse.

I dont know what to do. I've done the best and i just let God decide her fate. But i hope if she has no chance to survive, she wont suffer long sad.gif Please pray for Momoy. Thanx.
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I don’t like when a doctor keep secret of this happened during surgery without telling guardian or family. Like your case.. the vet already know she has pus inside her horns, which need extra more careful to do it. And some more, when the pus spilled they didn’t do anything to at least find ways to stop it before entering the blood system and go direct to liver? Weird.

I’m not sure with the flabby part at her front leg.

Ok now skip the vaccine part. I’m a little bit confuse… pyometra check up is at other vet? And spay is at other vet? Or both at the same vet?

Since she is suspected with pyometra, don’t blame yourself for not vaccine her. The sickness is already there right. Pyometra has nothing to do with vaccine. It is like other sickness. I have the hard feeling that the pyometra has something to do with this spay surgery. Since pyometra itself has something to do with uterus, and spay involve removing the ovaries and uterus. During the process there might be something go wrong here.

To be more specific, pyometra happen because of infection in the wall of uterus.

There are 2 type of pyometra, the open and close.

Open type – the cervix relaxes, releasing a large amount of pus that is often cream, pink or brown.

While close type – a very litter vaginal discharge.

As pus collects in the uterus, the cat become more toxic, vomits, high fever, dehydrates.

Momoy MAYBE has become toxic to herself. So infection grow from one place to another place. MAYBE it arrive in liver and that’s why she has jaundice.

p/s Don’t blame yourself nicoty_yne, like I said earlier, she is already infected by pyometra which has nothing to do with vaccine, but actually spaying earlier. Again don’t blame yourself, you have try your best now… trying to safe momoy. Just let god decide what’s next. You have done your best my friend.

p/s my prayer go to momoy, hope she recover and enjoy life.

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my sister's cat is sick.
he doesnt have the appetite to eat and not breathing well.
last week he got a fever. already sent him to gov clinic twice. sadly in terengganu i cant find a private vet clinic. sad.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 14 2008, 01:49 PM)
ahahah they will always be smelly because they lick their fur every hours and days... for sure the shampoo won't stick that long...

if your case is like not last for few days.. then u need the expensive shampoo..

the one cost rm40 and above. i'm using back2basic shampoo with coconut smell..

and then conditioner, get the one almost the same price.. i'm using Espree brand..

it can last more between 1 - 2 weeks.

when u shampoo and conditioner, leave it for like 5 minutes for each. don't pour water right after u brush their fur. let the shampoo and conditioner stay alil bit longer.

p/s some people like to use powder, leave on conditioner for their cats.. but i never try that. maybe u can have a look at this type of fragrance.

p/s make sure it is safe on animal. my cat has no problem with back2basic and espree product.

p/s i always like natural product, like back2basic is using oatmeal.
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are the back2back and espree brands available in small shops or have to find at pet safari or sumthing? how do u hold ur cat for 5 mins while putting on syampoo and conditioner? wear gloves x? tongue.gif
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Momoy's photos.. See the flabby parts at her right front leg?

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QUOTE(mizeily @ Nov 14 2008, 04:19 PM)
are the back2back and espree brands available in small shops or have to find at pet safari or sumthing? how do u hold ur cat for 5 mins while putting on syampoo and conditioner? wear gloves x? tongue.gif
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its back2basic not back2back tongue.gif im not sure about small petshop.. i got mind from Petsmore. Even pet safari do not have much shampoo. You can try Pets wonderland too.. both petsmore, pets wonderland, pets family PJ, have more product on grooming.

what i meant was, waktu mandi tu, basah kan semua bulu dulu. then letak shampoo. gosok gosok sampai rata masuk kedalam bulu. then biar kan 5 minit - 10 minit. lepas tu baru bilas. and then now sapu kan conditioner sampai rata. again tunggu 5 - 10 minit. baru bilas untuk kali terakhir.

u dont have to wear gloves, u r not dealing with fleas shampoo anyway.
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she looks ok in the picture. i mean does not look in pain or sick. trust me, i have seen worst condition of cats till you do not want to see. My last cat died in 2007, was like alive but do not look like alive. and her last breath she scream like in pain.

yeah i can see the flabby parts thats where all the body system are. I mean that area, like heart, liver, etc.

did u managed to call your vet?
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Any cat lovers here use a electric mosquitoe racket aka electric bug swatter?

Everytime I press the "ON" button on the racquet, our cat becomes afraid & runs away quickly. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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Any cat lovers here use a electric mosquitoe racket aka electric bug swatter?

Everytime I press the "ON" button on the racquet, our cat becomes afraid & runs away quickly.  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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errkk they will almost freak out with anything. mine even freak out with remote control car.

anyway, r u playing electric bug swatter with your cats? LOL. hopefully your cat is not dry and burn with that thing. that is so like commit suicide tongue.gif
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anyway, r u playing electric bug swatter with your cats? LOL. hopefully your cat is not dry and burn with that thing. that is so like commit suicide tongue.gif
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Wah Pet Espree same dgn the Pet Esther tuh ker? Grooming dgn tuh cam mahal jer rm80 for long hair cat.

Btw, there is a trader selling orijen cat food 8kg was RM 125, kind of worth it ker?

Elfreakz can we have a list of the current food price in the first page and location? Malas nak tanyer satu2 kedai.
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She looks okay. but who knows shes screaming inside.

Yearp, like what el said, i also have seen worse than this. My cat before... cry.gif
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QUOTE(naTTan @ Nov 15 2008, 03:47 AM)
Wah Pet Espree same dgn the Pet Esther tuh ker? Grooming dgn tuh cam mahal jer rm80 for long hair cat.

Btw, there is a trader selling orijen cat food 8kg was RM 125, kind of worth it ker?

Elfreakz can we have a list of the current food price in the first page and location? Malas nak tanyer satu2 kedai.
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eerrkk orijen 8kg or 7kg?? mineis 7kg, tak adapun 8?

my 7kg orijen is RM139 (pet safari, and galaxy petshop both same price)
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hope ur momoy will be ok soon.
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hi El...

I also have a problem like mizely...after bath my gemuk and adik...tak sampai 3 days...dah bau masam...I pun nk try espree brand la..

shampoo price is Rm 40...the conditioner?how much?

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hi El...

I also have a problem like mizely...after bath my gemuk and adik...tak sampai 3 days...dah bau masam...I pun nk try espree brand la..

shampoo price is Rm 40...the conditioner?how much?
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any shampoo pun bagus, but the expensive one ofcourse better lah kan.

the shampoo im using is Bark2Basic. can't remember the price, its about RM40 above..

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Oatmeal Anti-Itch Shampoo is a gentle, natural all-purpose moisturizing shampoo specially formulated for professional groomers. Oatmeal Anti-Itch Shampoo contains natural colloidal oatmeal to soothe and moisturize dry, itchy skin on pets. It produces a rich, thick lather that deep cleans without drying, yet is mild enough to use on pets of all ages. It contains no harsh additives or ingredients that build up on the coat. Oatmeal Anti-Itch Shampoo rinses easily and leaves coats luxurious, healthy, and shiny. pH balanced for pets skin.


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Conditioner i pakai espree about RM39.

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This luxurious conditioner moisturizes and promotes a healthy silky coat with high shine and manageability. Turn your pet into a show ring champion! Directions: Use full strength or dilute up to 24 parts warm water to 1 part conditioner and shake well. Massage into coat of dog or cat, leave in 3 minutes for best results and rinse thoroughly.

Calming Waters Fragrance, Silk Protein Restores High Shine and Luster, For Dogs and Cats

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anyway if u want to see other types go to:

Bark2Basic = http://www.senproco.com/bark2basics/index.html

Espree = http://www.espree.com/index.asp

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Bought both from petsmore, not sure the price decrease or increase. but petsmore do have other good quality brand, but too expensive.. i can only afford Bark2Basics and Espree ehehehe

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 15 2008, 03:25 PM)
any shampoo pun bagus, but the expensive one ofcourse better lah kan.

the shampoo im using is Bark2Basic. can't remember the price, its about RM40 above..

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Oatmeal Anti-Itch Shampoo is a gentle, natural all-purpose moisturizing shampoo specially formulated for professional groomers. Oatmeal Anti-Itch Shampoo contains natural colloidal oatmeal to soothe and moisturize dry, itchy skin on pets. It produces a rich, thick lather that deep cleans without drying, yet is mild enough to use on pets of all ages. It contains no harsh additives or ingredients that build up on the coat. Oatmeal Anti-Itch Shampoo rinses easily and leaves coats luxurious, healthy, and shiny. pH balanced for pets skin.
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Conditioner i pakai espree about RM39.

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This luxurious conditioner moisturizes and promotes a healthy silky coat with high shine and manageability.  Turn your pet into a show ring champion!  Directions:  Use full strength or dilute up to 24 parts warm water to 1 part conditioner and shake well.  Massage into coat of dog or cat, leave in 3 minutes for best results and rinse thoroughly.

Calming Waters Fragrance, Silk Protein Restores High Shine and Luster, For Dogs and Cats

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anyway if u want to see other types go to:

Bark2Basic = http://www.senproco.com/bark2basics/index.html

Espree = http://www.espree.com/index.asp

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Bought both from petsmore, not sure the price decrease or increase. but petsmore do have other good quality brand, but too expensive.. i can only afford Bark2Basics and Espree ehehehe
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I pun takleh budget besar sgt...coz ank dah ramai...dah mencecah 11 ekor...hehehehe..
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oh my... cepat nye berkembang family tu... eheheh

anyway, u can try other brand, or maybe same brand but different type. i pun nak tau gak macam mana brand lain or types yang lain. kalo semua sama, so tak de product reviewer lah kan eheheh
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 15 2008, 03:47 PM)
oh my... cepat nye berkembang family tu... eheheh

anyway, u can try other brand, or maybe same brand but different type. i pun nak tau gak macam mana brand lain or types yang lain. kalo semua sama, so tak de product reviewer lah kan eheheh
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so far u pakai brand tu ...ok?

yela..baru 7 ekor last 2 months...but now...11...hehehe


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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 15 2008, 03:47 PM)
oh my... cepat nye berkembang family tu... eheheh

anyway, u can try other brand, or maybe same brand but different type. i pun nak tau gak macam mana brand lain or types yang lain. kalo semua sama, so tak de product reviewer lah kan eheheh
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el...

shampoo tu ade berape ml ek??



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so far u pakai brand tu ...ok?

yela..baru 7 ekor last 2 months...but now...11...hehehe


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el...

shampoo tu ade berape ml ek??
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yeap im using both that brand.

hmm bark2basic 15oz.

Espree conditioner 12 oz. (355ml).
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 15 2008, 04:38 PM)
yeap im using both that brand.

hmm bark2basic 15oz.

Espree conditioner 12 oz. (355ml).
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Klu guna 2 in 1 (Bark2Basic) Shampoo n contioner ok tak?
or separate much better??


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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 15 2008, 04:57 PM)
Klu guna 2 in 1 (Bark2Basic) Shampoo n contioner ok tak?
or separate much better??
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mana2 pun ok smile.gif

kalo rasa malas, guna 2 in 1, senang kerja kan eheheh
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mana2 pun ok smile.gif

kalo rasa malas, guna 2 in 1, senang kerja kan eheheh
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yala...ade 11 anak nak dimandikan tu...klu mandi sebulan sekali pun...1 minggu leh mandi 4 ekor je tiap kali cuti...4 ekor...penat gak tu....

lum cite lg prangai diorg bile mandi... sweat.gif

yg ok time mandi...amoda, oren n hitam je...

yg ganas...adik...siap lompat naik atas bahu lagi...

yg terjerit2...abang...bising mulut die bile mandi...

bile dah mandikan diorang...i lak yg pening..letih giler.. rclxub.gif
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to all cats lover,

Do u guys knw who got provide cats babysit service? i need someone 2 look after my cats .5 of them....if have any pls pm me thanks
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to all cats lover,

Do u guys knw who got provide cats babysit service? i need someone 2 look after my cats .5 of them....if have any pls pm me thanks
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cats babysit? meaning go over to ur house n feed ur cats/scoop out litter ar? tongue.gif

where r u staying?
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cry.gif My kitten suddenly died today. Yesterday he was gone for a day, but somehow he came back today and i saw him dead. His eyes were open,his leg were terbuka. cry.gif cry.gif

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ello brother!!!
its been long time.... i told you before i'll get new members in my family... so cuti lo... kat rumah belum masuk streamyx... so tak leh nak online... damn!! you forgot to put my name bro... cuti tak bermakna i bkn cat lover k.... 2 bulan xtgk gmbr ur mia.. rindu pulak kat furball... bertambah rindu biler my Gemok and Kecik dah kena curik... wwaah waahh.. sedih bro... rasa nak cekik je sapa yg amik... elok 2 3 hari i deliver jer... husband i bgth depa tak blk2 umah... puas dia cari merata-rata...kot2 kena langgar ker... tp xde tanda2 pun... tunggu punya tunggu depa xblk jugak confirm kena curik... ingat lepas hantar i n baby blk kampung, suruh husband i bw diaorang pulak.. xsempat, tak sampai 2 hari dah kena cekup... tak pelah... maybe ada hikmah disebalik tu... yelah, i pun dah ada baby kan... bulu they all kan maybe can cause my baby an asma or batuk ker... so tak pelah...

nnt baby dah besar sikit, i amik my uncle's cat pulak...
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ello brother!!!
its been long time.... i told you before i'll get new members in my family... so cuti lo... kat rumah belum masuk streamyx... so tak leh nak online... damn!! you forgot to put my name bro... cuti tak bermakna i bkn cat lover k.... 2 bulan xtgk gmbr ur mia.. rindu pulak kat furball... bertambah rindu biler my Gemok and Kecik dah kena curik... wwaah waahh.. sedih bro... rasa nak cekik je sapa yg amik... elok 2 3 hari i deliver jer... husband i bgth depa tak blk2 umah... puas dia cari merata-rata...kot2 kena langgar ker... tp xde tanda2 pun... tunggu punya tunggu depa xblk jugak confirm kena curik... ingat lepas hantar i n baby blk kampung, suruh husband i bw diaorang pulak.. xsempat, tak sampai 2 hari dah kena cekup... tak pelah... maybe ada hikmah disebalik tu... yelah, i pun dah ada baby kan... bulu they all kan maybe can cause my baby an asma or batuk ker... so tak pelah...

nnt baby dah besar sikit, i amik my uncle's cat pulak...
hello buchat.. lama tak nampak..

congrats for the new family member smile.gif

sorry for the lost cats...

yeah i agree ada hikmah disebalik kejadian. baik untuk u, or baik untuk dorang.

sometimes kucing kadang2 melarikan diri. I ingat lagi my late aileen dulu, few days before dia lari, i was planning to get a male cat jadi kan kawan dia. agak nya dia merajuk, hilang for 2-3 weeks. out of the blue datang balik. tapi datang balik not for long, she pass away few days sad.gif sedeyyy oww dah lah dia lari merajuk sbb i nak bela kucing baru, now balik kat tuan dia rupa rupa nya nak menghembuskan nafas terakhir. cry.gif

anyway, itu cerita lama. dah setahun lebih jadi arwah. kucing tinggal kan belang smile.gif will always remember her forever.


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she looks ok in the picture. i mean does not look in pain or sick. trust me, i have seen worst condition of cats till you do not want to see. My last cat died in 2007, was like alive but do not look like alive. and her last breath she scream like in pain.

yeah i can see the flabby parts thats where all the body system are. I mean that area, like heart, liver, etc.

did u managed to call your vet?
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I went to the vet on Friday evening. The vet told me, it is normal for Momoy to looked flabby after received the IV fluid.

Momoy is getting better. She responds to her environment and a few times trying to walk out her cage everytime i open the cage door to feed her. Since last Saturday, she poops and pees normally. She's using her litterbox as normal. No stray pees in her cage anymore. But she still refuses to eat by her own. So i need to pump food (Hill's a/d) and water into her mouth 3 times a day. Her wound also looks ok, dried and no swollen. But she still having a jaundice.


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hi nicoty,
hope ur momoy will be ok soon.
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Thanx wink.gif

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cry.gif My kitten suddenly died today. Yesterday he was gone for a day, but somehow he came back today and i saw him dead. His eyes were open,his leg were terbuka. cry.gif cry.gif
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Sorry for your lost... i just lost my cat to... hilang... kena curik... damn...
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[quote=nicoty_yne,Nov 17 2008, 01:15 PM]I went to the vet on Friday evening. The vet told me, it is normal for Momoy to looked flabby after received the IV fluid.

Momoy is getting better. She responds to her environment and a few times trying to walk out her cage everytime i open the cage door to feed her. Since last Saturday, she poops and pees normally. She's using her litterbox as normal. No stray pees in her cage anymore. But she still refuses to eat by her own. So i need to pump food (Hill's a/d) and water into her mouth 3 times a day. Her wound also looks ok, dried and no swollen. But she still having a jaundice.


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im glad she is doing good...im sure the vet can cure her jaundice part, dont worry she will win this batle.


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Added on November 17, 2008, 11:56 pm[quote=abang brother,Nov 17 2008, 08:11 AM]cry.gif My kitten suddenly died today. Yesterday he was gone for a day, but somehow he came back today and i saw him dead. His eyes were open,his leg were terbuka. cry.gif cry.gif
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abg brother,


ucapan takziah dari saya...jgn sedih ek, im sure he is in heaven now smile.gif


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ello brother!!!
its been long time.... i told you before i'll get new members in my family... so cuti lo... kat rumah belum masuk streamyx... so tak leh nak online... damn!! you forgot to put my name bro... cuti tak bermakna i bkn cat lover k.... 2 bulan xtgk gmbr ur mia.. rindu pulak kat furball... bertambah rindu biler my Gemok and Kecik dah kena curik... wwaah waahh.. sedih bro... rasa nak cekik je sapa yg amik... elok 2 3 hari i deliver jer... husband i bgth depa tak blk2 umah... puas dia cari merata-rata...kot2 kena langgar ker... tp xde tanda2 pun... tunggu punya tunggu depa xblk jugak confirm kena curik... ingat lepas hantar i n baby blk kampung, suruh husband i bw diaorang pulak.. xsempat, tak sampai 2 hari dah kena cekup... tak pelah... maybe ada hikmah disebalik tu... yelah, i pun dah ada baby kan... bulu they all kan maybe can cause my baby an asma or batuk ker... so tak pelah...

nnt baby dah besar sikit, i amik my uncle's cat pulak...
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hi buchat,


sorry for the lost of your furballz and congrats on the new addition to the family...baby boy or girl???
congats... rclxms.gif

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el...how do i make my kittens to sleep in my room eh? previously, i put them ( there's 3 of them) in a cage outside...twice a day i let them play inside the house.but after a new stray cat came to our house n my dad wants to keep him, i transfered the kitties to my room..n the stray to the cage. i noticed that they were playing A LOT in my room!! n non-stop..at nite, they seems to werent/coulnt be able to sleep..mebe x biase kut..so how to biase kan ar? last nite, 3x they trigger the house alarm cuz were playing at the window grill in my bedroom sad.gif
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QUOTE(mizeily @ Nov 18 2008, 12:14 PM)
el...how do i make my kittens to sleep in my room eh? previously, i put them ( there's 3 of them) in a cage outside...twice a day i let them play inside the house.but after a new stray cat came to our house n my dad wants to keep him, i transfered the kitties to my room..n the stray to the cage. i noticed that they were playing A LOT in my room!! n non-stop..at nite, they seems to werent/coulnt be able to sleep..mebe x biase kut..so how to biase kan ar? last nite, 3x they trigger the house alarm cuz were playing at the window grill in my bedroom sad.gif
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u cannot do anything with that "play"... kitten are like that. some more 3 kittens will give u a roller coaster.

since they are in catch before, you need to give some more time. they are now culture shock. like so "SYOK!".. wah bebas!!! yey! serang!! macam tu tongue.gif

my kitten also panjat that grill sampai atas, and buat penerjunan bebas, which i don't really like to see.

as for the adult, memang main jugak, but byk kepada lepak2.

soon or later, the kitten akan terbiasa hidup bebas in your room they will start slow down the play. and some will always play because this is part of the process of growing.

now they are in your room - bila dah tenang nanti, cuba u lepas kat living room tongue.gif mesti bermula balik kisah like so "SYOK!"... wah bebas!! yey!! Serang!!! eheheheh
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Hari tuh gi hantar kucing gi grooming, cuba kedai baru yg cam epensive skit, rm 60 for short hair and rm80 for long hair. Bnyk anjing kat situh usually, tapi saje nak belanjakan kucing.

Professional gak lar, tapi rase2 nyer nak gi tuh kena budget2 skit.

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Yang nih Kiki.

Package dier agak mantap lar tapi harga tuh sweat.gif

10 step.

1.Cuci telinga.
2.Cuci Mata.
3.Groom guna comb.
4.Groom guna slicker.
5.Potong Kuku.
6.Shave bulu dekat celah2 paws dier.
7.Potong bulu2 telinga.
8. Cuci buntot and kelenjar.
9.Syampoo and conditioner dgn Pet Esther.
10. Dry and blow.
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Blow dry!!!
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Nampak kurus biler basah.

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QUOTE(naTTan @ Nov 18 2008, 08:00 PM)
Hari tuh gi hantar kucing gi grooming, cuba kedai baru yg cam epensive skit, rm 60 for short hair and rm80 for long hair. Bnyk anjing kat situh usually, tapi saje nak belanjakan kucing.

Professional gak lar, tapi rase2 nyer nak gi tuh kena budget2 skit.

Yang nih Kiki.

Package dier agak mantap lar tapi harga tuh  sweat.gif

10 step.

1.Cuci telinga.
2.Cuci Mata.
3.Groom guna comb.
4.Groom guna slicker.
5.Potong Kuku.
6.Shave bulu dekat celah2 paws dier.
7.Potong bulu2 telinga.
8. Cuci buntot and kelenjar.
9.Syampoo and conditioner dgn Pet Esther.
10. Dry and blow.

Diaorg kasi complimentary neck scarf cam cowboy tuh.
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If RM80 with that 10 steps, i dont mind paying. since its look promising and reasonable.

which shop is it?
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Wonder if any1 wan2 adopt my fren's kitten
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry21526729

He'll be going2 spca soon if no adopter.......
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If RM80 with that 10 steps, i dont mind paying. since its look promising and reasonable.

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Dekat Kota Damansara behind Hasmael Clinic, yg Diva9 saloon. The only thing yg i nak beli kalau ley is the syampoo dier guna and conditioner, mmg last a long time. And kucing lain cam terkejut biler bau.

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Nov 19 2008, 01:43 AM)
Wonder if any1 wan2 adopt my fren's kitten
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry21526729

He'll be going2 spca soon if no adopter.......
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If i can, i will take that cat! Dont give to SPCA. sad.gif

thanks guys. smile.gif
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So u can?
I also duwan he end up in SPCA...
I'd been watching him growing up since he was born =(
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Hi all, I got few question about stray cat.

1) How do i know it got owner or not ?
2) She's pregnant, with very huge round perut, to me looks like will give birth anytime, but I don't see any sign that it's near "due date". How to I roughly know when is the due date and how long she's been pregnant ?
3) How to "change" her ? At night, she's very active and always ask for attention, like massaging and companion, if she didn't get the attention she want, she will "cry" for the whole night, n I cant sleep bcos of her.
4) Sometime she can eat for whole day, is it ok if i feed her with cat food for the whole day ?

Any advise is appreciated. notworthy.gif

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Hi all, I got few question about stray cat.

1) How do i know it got owner or not ?
2) She's pregnant, with very huge round perut, to me looks like will give birth anytime, but I don't see any sign that it's near "due date". How to I roughly know when is the due date and how long she's been pregnant ?
3) How to "change" her ? At night, she's very active and always ask for attention, like massaging and companion, if she didn't get the attention she want, she will "cry" for the whole night, n I cant sleep bcos of her.
4) Sometime she can eat for whole day, is it ok if i feed her with cat food for the whole day ?

Any advise is appreciated.  notworthy.gif
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1) How do i know it got owner or not ?
You can never know if they have owner or not. If they are lost or not. Unless they are using collar. Now, lets understand different between feral cat and stray cat first.

Stray cats
are usually that once had owners and were abandoned or became lost. They are the product of a person’s irresponsibility. Irresponsibility could be defined in two ways when it comes to stray cats, which is, dumping a cat to fend for itself and/or ignore to spay and neuter their cats. Feral cats are cats that were probably born to wild parents and/or are wild in nature. Feral cats have had no human contact (usually unapproachable by people) and are very complicated to tame. Because feral cats are difficult to discipline, thus making them undesirable indoor pets, there are many rescue organizations that are dedicated to the trapping and spaying and neutering of feral cat colonies.
(source = How to tame a feral cats - http://www.thecatzine.com/2008/11/how-to-t...wild-feral-cat/ )

So its very hard to know if they have owner or not. Since most stray cat will become very friendly with human. they have been living around out community. and maybe ever experience staying in a home with human. Stray cat can be scare to human too, due to human abuse.


2) She's pregnant, with very huge round perut, to me looks like will give birth anytime, but I don't see any sign that it's near "due date". How to I roughly know when is the due date and how long she's been pregnant ?
- nipples are getting thicker, more pink, and fur around nipple is clear out.
- touch her body, feel it, but don't push... if u can feel shape of a kitten, like head and body, then the time is soon!. if u can only feel something like a stone, then not yet.
- they will have a water discharge before giving birth just like human. most people can't see this because sometimes they discharge on places like carpet, newspaper, or toilet.
- decrease appetite before giving birth. if she still eat like crazy, then its not time yet.


3) How to "change" her ? At night, she's very active and always ask for attention, like massaging and companion, if she didn't get the attention she want, she will "cry" for the whole night, n I cant sleep bcos of her.
- first you need to understand, she maybe have owner before, and she maybe a stray cat living without owner. Both types of stray cat so have the "manja" genetic. She maybe missing her owner before, so she is looking and expect u to give her love. or maybe she never had owner before but she still want to be love. this kind of cat will be like this most of the time, when they had enough they will slowly stop. some will not stop.
- it is good that the cat is showing interest on you. she is making contact with you. like minta kesian. she will make u smell like her. that will make you her owner.
- all you need is patient. talk nicely she will understand smile.gif, since i believe you never had cat before, get a catch, and catch her when u sleep only. hopefully she didnt make u headache in the morning due to lack of sleep. She will stop calling for attention at certain point. just that she is too happy now and wanted to play like there will be no tomorrow.
- from the behavior she look still in kitten age, and pregnant at very early age sad.gif
- lastly, understand that, kitten/cat will be active at night more than morning smile.gif



4) Sometime she can eat for whole day, is it ok if i feed her with cat food for the whole day ?
- pregnant mommy will eat more thant non pregnant female cat.
- remember, they have other live kittens inside them, so they need to feed all of them in the stomach eheheh.
- if u have extra $$$ get her kitten food, and good brand such as iams, proformance, science plan, royal canin, etc (all this brands can be found in petshop only, for pregnant cat and kittens, royal canin is the best so far. but ofcourse u can go for others with lower price such as iams kitten).

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You may want to check out below links:
(a) Is My Cat Lonely? (Cat Loneliness) - http://www.thecatzine.com/2008/10/is-my-ca...cat-loneliness/
(b) Pat Your cat - http://www.thecatzine.com/2008/07/pat-your-cat/
© Cat communication - http://www.thecatzine.com/2008/07/cat-communication/


Good Luck! icon_rolleyes.gif

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Thanks a lot for ur explanation elfreakz, that's make me understand more about cat. U're right, I never own a cat, this is the 1st time ... also by accidentally, bcos she walked to me and followed me home when i went out to throw rubbish. After that, when she enter my room, she just comfortably lay down as if I'm her owner for a long time already, then I made up my mind to adopt (I hope it's not kidnap) her. At 1st, I gave her Whiskas n Frieskies bcos it's very famous n found easily, so i thought it should be good, but after reading n surveying, then i found out i'm wrong then I switch to Acana for Adult cat, bcos other premium cat food quite pricey.

Also, thanks for the link, will read more to understand her better. rclxms.gif

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Elf, want to ask ur opinion la...

Today is the 10th day Momoy has been neutered. She looks ok, but the problem is she isn't eating at all. I have to force feed her using syringe. Do u have this experience? Is there anything i can do to help her gain her appetite again? I cant feed her with Hill's a/d forever. That cane food's cost can kill me tongue.gif

I took her to the vet yesterday. The vet cleaned her wound and checked her stitcthes. The vet suprised that the wound tak bengkak or benjol. She said, normally for obese cat like Momoy, the wound will swollen a bit. But in Momoy's case, the wound is not swollen, no discharge from the stitches, but there are bruises on her stomach. Lebam2 merah biru on the skin, appear only at the shaved area. I'll show u the photo later. The vet said this is abnormal, but she cant tell what actually happens to Momoy and asked me to wait and see her progress.

About the jaundice, the yellowish at her eye balls has reduced. But still yellowish at the ears and gum. And her ears are cold no matter how i try to keep her warm.

And when i pinch her skin at her shoulder, the skin lambat anjal. Is she dehydrated?

Any members had experienced this before? Please share with me, please...
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Nov 19 2008, 07:59 AM)
So u can?
I also duwan he end up in SPCA...
I'd been watching him growing up since he was born =(
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If i can i would, but i'm in Kuching. sad.gif Sorry.
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Thanks a lot for ur explanation elfreakz, that's make me understand more about cat. U're right, I never own a cat, this is the 1st time ... also by accidentally, bcos she walked to me and followed me home when i went out to throw rubbish. After that, when she enter my room, she just comfortably lay down as if I'm her owner for a long time already, then I made up my mind to adopt (I hope it's not kidnap) her. At 1st, I gave her Whiskas n Frieskies bcos it's very famous n found easily, so i thought it should be good, but after reading n surveying, then i found out i'm wrong then I switch to Acana for Adult cat, bcos other premium cat food quite pricey.

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right about she is going to labor (maybe before 1-2 weeks giving birth) feed with kitten food.

after labor, when she nursing the kitten, still feed kitten food.

it may be expensive. but this is what you need to spend if you want kittens eheheh.
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Elf, want to ask ur opinion la...

Today is the 10th day Momoy has been neutered. She looks ok, but the problem is she isn't eating at all. I have to force feed her using syringe. Do u have this experience? Is there anything i can do to help her gain her appetite again? I cant feed her with Hill's a/d forever. That cane food's cost can kill me tongue.gif

I took her to the vet yesterday. The vet cleaned her wound and checked her stitcthes. The vet suprised that the wound tak bengkak or benjol. She said, normally for obese cat like Momoy, the wound will swollen a bit. But in Momoy's case, the wound is not swollen, no discharge from the stitches, but there are bruises on her stomach. Lebam2 merah biru on the skin, appear only at the shaved area. I'll show u the photo later. The vet said this is abnormal, but she cant tell what actually happens to Momoy and asked me to wait and see her progress.

About the jaundice, the yellowish at her eye balls has reduced. But still yellowish at the ears and gum. And her ears are cold no matter how i try to keep her warm.

And when i pinch her skin at her shoulder, the skin lambat anjal. Is she dehydrated?

Any members had experienced this before? Please share with me, please...
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It is a sad things happened to Momoy for such a long period of time.

I never experienced this before after neutered, which makes me feel so lucky. I seldom here people's cats has problem after the surgery too.

I have the hard feeling that momoy sickness is continue after one and another. from her uterus part, then surgery, then jaundice, and now sound like she is dehydrated.

because, since you said u have to spoon feed her with water and food for 10 days, this means she is lacking with water. by nature animal body is made of 60% water. cat or other animal can easily get dehydrated. the one u see, the skin lambat anjal is one of the sign.

how about her mouth? if u open it, did u see dryness? or its shiny and watery?
how about heart rate? is it increase? if u have other cat, try see their different.

sick/fever cat will always have the potential of having dehydration, due to lack of water.

shock and blood loss can also be the cause of dehydration.

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one way to save on food is, u go to the market right, buy chicken meat. normally chicken Brest.

go back home, get some of it, cut some of it. and boil it with empty water. not too much water..

after it boil (not too long, not too fast... medium cook), cut it into pieces...small small one...

now get your wet cane food. any brands also can... take abit of it.. if momoy at 2 spoon of wet food before, now u only take 1 spoon, and mix it with 1 spoon chicken meat.

the balance put in tight container inside fridge.

the chicken soup (water u used to boil), dont throw away, use that as a drink. it is good for cats.
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right about she is going to labor (maybe before 1-2 weeks giving birth) feed with kitten food.

after labor, when she nursing the kitten, still feed kitten food.

it may be expensive. but this is what you need to spend if you want kittens eheheh.
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But, i don't know when she will give birth oh...

Hmmm ... ok ... i think after my Acana for adult cat finish, i'll feed her and her "future" kitten with Acana kitten. How long I should feed them with kitten formula ? U mean it is better to feed her with kitten formula even though she's adult ?

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But, i don't know when she will give birth oh...

Hmmm ... ok ... i think after my Acana for adult cat finish, i'll feed her and her "future" kitten with Acana kitten. How long I should feed them with kitten formula ? U mean it is better to feed her with kitten formula even though she's adult ?
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ok since u don't know roughly... now feed kittern food after she give birth. which mean right after day 1 the kittens born.

kitten food is high with nutrition, protein and fat.
a pregnant mother needs alot of this 3 main keys for her coming soon kitten. ofcourse everybody want a healthy mother with a healthy kittens right. if they only want healthy kitten but not mother, then this is abusing the mother for their own good.
a nursing mothers need kitten food, to produce good healthy milk for her kittens. she eats high nutrition kitten food, and produce it become milk. now the kitten will get all the nutrition from that milk. they grew happily.

you still need kitten food later own when the kitten start eating by themself. normally they will start eating at the age of 1 month and above. so the kitten food continues.

it is not easy to have kitten ehehe just like us, not easy to have kids. producing them is easy, but taking care need more $$$.

due to budget problem, you can in big amount. let say IAMS kitten (purple color) 9.36kg is RM132. For your cat, i think this 9.36kg can last for a very long time of period. maybe 3-4 months. which is like till the kitten born and can eat ehehe.

so buying the big pack is much more money saver than buying the small small packs...

acana is a good brand. im not sure how much they selling the big pack.

so now, list down your budget carefully so it won't "membebankan" you.

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ok since u don't know roughly... now feed kittern food after she give birth. which mean right after day 1 the kittens born.

kitten food is high with nutrition, protein and fat.
a pregnant mother needs alot of this 3 main keys for her coming soon kitten. ofcourse everybody want a healthy mother with a healthy kittens right. if they only want healthy kitten but not mother, then this is abusing the mother for their own good.
a nursing mothers need kitten food, to produce good healthy milk for her kittens. she eats high nutrition kitten food, and produce it become milk. now the kitten will get all the nutrition from that milk. they grew happily.

you still need kitten food later own when the kitten start eating by themself. normally they will start eating at the age of 1 month and above. so the kitten food continues.

it is not easy to have kitten ehehe just like us, not easy to have kids. producing them is easy, but taking care need more $$$.

due to budget problem, you can in big amount. let say IAMS kitten (purple color) 9.36kg is RM132. For your cat, i think this 9.36kg can last for a very long time of period. maybe 3-4 months. which is like till the kitten born and can eat ehehe.

so buying the big pack is much more money saver than buying the small small packs...

acana is a good brand. im not sure how much they selling the big pack.

so now, list down your budget carefully so it won't "membebankan" you.

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Even though it's a bit membebankan my pocket and a lot of hard work, but i'm happy if she n her "future" kittens are happy n healthy, actually cant wait to see her kittens already, n at least she got companion other than me especially at night. I have checked just now, The pet shop will start to sell new Acana Pacifica start from next month, it's RM158 for 8kg, more expensive and it's one formula for both adult n kitten. So, might switch to IAMS in future, but now i'll go for Acana Kitten 1st (old formula), it's only RM118 for 8kg. Is it ok if I feed an adult cat with Kitten formula in long term ?
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Even though it's a bit membebankan my pocket and a lot of hard work, but i'm happy if she n her "future" kittens are happy n healthy, actually cant wait to see her kittens already, n at least she got companion other than me especially at night. I have checked just now, The pet shop will start to sell new Acana Pacifica start from next month, it's RM158 for 8kg, more expensive and it's one formula for both adult n kitten. So, might switch to IAMS in future, but now i'll go for Acana Kitten 1st (old formula), it's only RM118 for 8kg. Is it ok if I feed an adult cat with Kitten formula in long term ?
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its better to stick with 1 brand. frequent changing may cause stomach ache for few days till they get used with the new brand.

yes, for pregnant and mother during nursing is ok to feed kitten food. their body need more nutrition than normal cat.

u will see your female cat gets super skinny after labor later on. which makes them look so weird. so kitten food is needed to build up all the meat and body again. just like human, women who is pregnant will need to eat alot good food for their baby inside right. after labor, women will still need to continue eating good food for produce good milk for baby right. and women also still need high nutrition diet food to jaga the body, else they look weird too eheheheh

that's reflect pregnant cat and nursing mother cat too.

some cat will have fur problem, fur drop fur shed fur drying up.. so kitten food which contain high protein, fat and nutrition will help them to recover from all this.

adult food contain lesser nutrition, protein and fat. it is good for non pregnant adult cat. due too, they don't need much nutrition like pregnant / nursing cat.
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its better to stick with 1 brand. frequent changing may cause stomach ache for few days till they get used with the new brand.

yes, for pregnant and mother during nursing is ok to feed kitten food. their body need more nutrition than normal cat.

u will see your female cat gets super skinny after labor later on. which makes them look so weird. so kitten food is needed to build up all the meat and body again. just like human, women who is pregnant will need to eat alot good food for their baby inside right. after labor, women will still need to continue eating good food for produce good milk for baby right. and women also still need high nutrition diet food to jaga the body, else they look weird too eheheheh

that's reflect pregnant cat and nursing mother cat too.

some cat will have fur problem, fur drop fur shed fur drying up.. so kitten food which contain high protein, fat and nutrition will help them to recover from all this.

adult food contain lesser nutrition, protein and fat. it is good for non pregnant adult cat. due too, they don't need much nutrition like pregnant / nursing cat.
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good advise ... I'll try to stick to Acana as long as my pocket can. Like the fact that u compare human with cat ... rclxms.gif ... bcos a lot of ppls treat them as toy only ... mad.gif

But, after reading articles in http://www.iamscruelty.com/, i think i might not want to buy IAMS anymore bcos they 're doing testing n experiment on animal.

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good advise ... I'll try to stick to Acana as long as my pocket can. Like the fact that u compare human with cat ...  rclxms.gif  ... bcos a lot of ppls treat them as toy only ...  mad.gif

But, after reading articles in http://www.iamscruelty.com/, i think i might not want to buy IAMS anymore bcos they 're doing testing n experiment on animal.
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it was a long issues.

which makes me thing, its all about business.. just like coca cola and pepsi.. they said coca cola got dead mouse in the drink. tongue.gif but still coca cola no.1 right..

same like other product too... include animal food. if we think carefully, do we as public ever come across to this factory anyway? we don't know what other brands do in their factory and research office.

i always believe that, in order to produce something, something must sacrifice. like our human food, they tested on animal first before release it to human. in our case, mice is always be the animal to sacrifice themself. just because we are not mice lover, we don't care. but have u ever think of about mice lover?

so in the term of cats food... other cat must sacrifice them self to produce good food for our cats.

i bet, other brands also like this.

if iams is that bad, u will never see iams anymore since long long time ago tongue.gif they will be close down, ban from the society. but guess what, IAMS is everywhere in petshop now. just go to any petshop, IAMS brand will always be there tongue.gif i dont know why...
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 19 2008, 03:25 PM)
right about she is going to labor (maybe before 1-2 weeks giving birth) feed with kitten food.

after labor, when she nursing the kitten, still feed kitten food.

it may be expensive. but this is what you need to spend if you want kittens eheheh.
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Kitten food for the mother right? not for the new born kitten kan? baby yg baru lahir takkan dah boleh mkn... theyall just menyusu dgn mummy they all aje kan? just like human lah... 6 bulan baru boleh mkn, itu pun nestum or bubur.. kitten umur berapa we need to feed them? 2 week?
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Kitten food for the mother right? not for the new born kitten kan? baby yg baru lahir takkan dah boleh mkn... theyall just menyusu dgn mummy they all aje kan? just like human lah... 6 bulan baru boleh mkn, itu pun nestum or bubur..  kitten umur berapa we need to feed them? 2 week?
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kalau lepas beranak, yes kitten food for the mother.

kitten akan start belajar makan umur 1 bulan ke atas. so still u need to provide kitten food. at this stage, they eat and drink milk.

so now both kittens and mother eat kitten food.
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It is a sad things happened to Momoy for such a long period of time.

I never experienced this before after neutered, which makes me feel so lucky. I seldom here people's cats has problem after the surgery too.

I have the hard feeling that momoy sickness is continue after one and another. from her uterus part, then surgery, then jaundice, and now sound like she is dehydrated.

because, since you said u have to spoon feed her with water and food for 10 days, this means she is lacking with water. by nature animal body is made of 60% water. cat or other animal can easily get dehydrated. the one u see, the skin lambat anjal is one of the sign.

how about her mouth? if u open it, did u see dryness? or its shiny and watery?
how about heart rate? is it increase? if u have other cat, try see their different.

sick/fever cat will always have the potential of having dehydration, due to lack of water.

shock and blood loss can also be the cause of dehydration.

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one way to save on food is, u go to the market right, buy chicken meat. normally chicken Brest.

go back home, get some of it, cut some of it. and boil it with empty water. not too much water..

after it boil (not too long, not too fast... medium cook), cut it into pieces...small small one...

now get your wet cane food. any brands also can... take abit of it.. if momoy at 2 spoon of wet food before, now u only take 1 spoon, and mix it with 1 spoon chicken meat.

the balance put in tight container inside fridge.

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Owh, boiled chicken mix with her cane food smile.gif thanx, elf!

Elf,

Have u heard about peronitis? I read somewhere that pyometra can lead to sepsis and peronitis. Is peronitis = FIP? Do u think Momoy is showing peronitis symptoms?

Owh, i think i've read too much and psycho-ing myself la..
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Owh, boiled chicken mix with her cane food smile.gif thanx, elf!

Elf,

Have u heard about peronitis? I read somewhere that pyometra can lead to sepsis and peronitis. Is peronitis = FIP? Do u think Momoy is showing peronitis symptoms?

Owh, i think i've read too much and psycho-ing myself la..
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seriously you read too much, that's makes u think momoy has 101 diseases and sickness eheheeh. do it step by step. if u think momoy is dehydrated, go find was to solve it first.

I never heard about peronitis, but i know if it is PERITONITIS tongue.gif

Yes its come from FIP = full name, Feline Infectious Peritonitis.

new born kitten will get FIP if there parents or father or mother has FIP. the kitten will be call "Neonatal FIP" carrier.
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elf, momoy died yesterday.. I told the vet and asked if she might got peritonitis.. the vet said there's a possibility. But nothing change the fact she's gone now.. cry.gif cry.gif
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elf, momoy died yesterday.. I told the vet and asked if she might got peritonitis.. the vet said there's a possibility. But nothing change the fact she's gone now.. cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 20 2008, 01:16 PM)
elf, momoy died yesterday.. I told the vet and asked if she might got peritonitis.. the vet said there's a possibility. But nothing change the fact she's gone now.. cry.gif cry.gif
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I'm so sorry to hear about Momoy sad.gif

Its very hard when a cat who is already sick and now get involve with 10 days dehydration.

at the moment, don't think of any sickness name. because for all, it will be a possibility.

i have a hard feeling saying it is more cause because of here pyometra, and during the neuter surgery. remember the vet said "maybe" blood get into liver and cause jaundice? there must be something going on between this 2 things. lastly she maybe already sick + pyometra before neuter. sick cat that goes to surgery will have high risk.

whatever it is, sorry to you and momoy. May she have a safe journey to the rainbow bridge. May she rest in peace. (at least she is not in pain anymore).
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Read the rest about this kitten at my blog, my Kingdom Of Cats Territory under the rule of King Sky and Queen Mia open up a urgent meeting due to this new kitten LOL.

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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 20 2008, 01:16 PM)
elf, momoy died yesterday.. I told the vet and asked if she might got peritonitis.. the vet said there's a possibility. But nothing change the fact she's gone now.. cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 20 2008, 01:16 PM)
elf, momoy died yesterday.. I told the vet and asked if she might got peritonitis.. the vet said there's a possibility. But nothing change the fact she's gone now.. cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 20 2008, 01:16 PM)
elf, momoy died yesterday.. I told the vet and asked if she might got peritonitis.. the vet said there's a possibility. But nothing change the fact she's gone now.. cry.gif cry.gif
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Im sorry for your loss. May she RIP. I lost mine to few days ago.. cry.gif cry.gif Life isnt unfair! cry.gif



Btw guys, is it possible for my kitten to be sad after his brother's loss? It has not been active for a while since his brother's death.

And el, as a muslim, can we gugurkan a pregnant cat?
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yet i believe, you need to check back why you want to do abortion. If suka suka memang lah haram tongue.gif... maybe ibu yang mengandung itu sakit dah boleh menyebabkan kematian pada si ibu (masalah kesihatan ibu kucing yang tidak sepatutnya mengandung.... yang ni mungkin alasan boleh pakai.

that is the reason why fatwa malaysia mengharuskan Kembiri, check back the aims of kembiri in islam. jika islam mengharuskan kembiri, maka kejadian seperti pengguguran kandungan boleh di kurang kan atau terus tiada.


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I'm so sorry to hear about momoy...

I pun pernah rasa benda mcm ni...n it's hard 2 accept right...

Hope u tabah hadapi dugaan tuhan...


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ur cat carrot looks like my cat oren...how old he/she?? male or female?


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anak si kembang...4 of them...all its skin have a skin problem la...ade benda cam dandruff, brown color...ape tu ek?
you mean, di hujung bulu tu ada macam debu debu / bintik bintik halus? macam pasir gitu?

if yet, this is what we call LICE!

its very easy to kill lice, frequent bath, frontline spot on.
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eh...any1 knows how to go to the jabatan haiwan cheras from subang jaya not?
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My cat yy. haha
a female cat. gave birth already 4 times..
now already go for surgery, cannot pregnant liao

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Dear forumers, I need urgent advice!

My sis just brought (Not bought) home a kitten, well... The kitten was actually just outside our home, on the roadside sweat.gif But anyway, it was late at night when she brought it in, my mom gave him/her (I dunno how to check) warm milk as the kitten look really tired/energyless/something like that, and a box, newspapers and towel for the night. Then, this morning, the cat got milk for breakfast and tuna for lunch.

My question is, what do/can kittens eat (Or cannot eat)? Can it take a bath (Kinda dirty)?

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QUOTE(Dreamworks @ Nov 21 2008, 02:46 PM)
Dear forumers, I need urgent advice!

My sis just brought (Not bought) home a kitten, well... The kitten was actually just outside our home, on the roadside sweat.gif But anyway, it was late at night when she brought it in, my mom gave him/her (I dunno how to check) warm milk as the kitten look really tired/energyless/something like that, and a box, newspapers and towel for the night. Then, this morning, the cat got milk for breakfast and tuna for lunch.

My question is, what do/can kittens eat (Or cannot eat)? Can it take a bath (Kinda dirty)?

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First Of All = NO HUMAN PRODUCT MILK! HL,Dutch Lady or whatever fresh / low fat milk that human drink.

Second = NO HUMAN FOOD FOR YOUR KITTY ehehehe

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Go to petshop, buy cat food for Kitten. If you have money, go to vet for check up. As the vet to check for parasites (fleas, tick, lice, mites), deworm, vaccine only if the kitten is health (you vet will know what to do). Ask vet for advice. If the vet want you to buy this and that, just say you trying to spend minimize the budget, and not to spend to expensive. You can also buy milk for cat in the petshop.. but depends on your kitten age, if she/he is more than 2 months old, milk can result diarrhea due to sensitive stomach.

If got fleas, spray the kitten with Frontline Spray. Wait 24 hours, and then you can bath.

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Okie, thanks... Will pass on your advice to my mom and sis icon_rolleyes.gif So, they can only eat cat food?
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my adopted cat finally gave birth to 5 kitten early this morning at around 3am to 4am, on my bed beside me. But, the thing worry me now is her abdomen still very big n when i touch both side of her abdomen, i can feel it's hard ? is this the sign of left over kitten in her abdomen ? I went home from work during lunch break n i saw her acting quite normal n can eat some also.
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Okie, thanks... Will pass on your advice to my mom and sis icon_rolleyes.gif So, they can only eat cat food?
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also provide fresh water, filter one.

don't forget to visit vet smile.gif
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QUOTE(stormaker @ Nov 21 2008, 03:40 PM)
my adopted cat finally gave birth to 5 kitten early this morning at around 3am to 4am, on my bed beside me. But, the thing worry me now is her abdomen still very big n when i touch both side of her abdomen, i can feel it's hard ? is this the sign of left over kitten in her abdomen ? I went home from work during lunch break n i saw her acting quite normal n can eat some also.
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CONGRATULATION! ehehehe wah so happy liaw!

Yes hard stomach is normal. Possibility no more, possibility YES there are still more.

Cat won't labor in one time, some of them, labor from time to time within 24-48hours. while some push everything in one time eheheh

Most kucing malaysia will not have problem with labor smile.gif they are super power wonder women ehehehe... can't wait to see pictures smile.gif

p/s make sure all the kitten suckling mother milk smile.gif because 5 is like alot.. they will fight among each other who will get the nipples. although there are alot of nipples not all is easy to to get, especially the bottom one.. middle part nipples are the easiest.
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CONGRATULATION! ehehehe wah so happy liaw!

Yes hard stomach is normal. Possibility no more, possibility YES there are still more.

Cat won't labor in one time, some of them, labor from time to time within 24-48hours. while some push everything in one time eheheh

Most kucing malaysia will not have problem with labor smile.gif they are super power wonder women ehehehe... can't wait to see pictures smile.gif

p/s make sure all the kitten suckling mother milk smile.gif because 5 is like alot.. they will fight among each other who will get the nipples. although there are alot of nipples not all is easy to to get, especially the bottom one.. middle part nipples are the easiest.
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Thanks, yup i'm very happy n relieve. biggrin.gif

Ermmm ... if that the case, i'll wait 2 more days n see how she's doing n the abdomen condition.

Actually this morning before i went to work only 3 kitten, when i visit her during lunch break, i was so shock bocs it's became 5 kitten ... now i think i'll be on tight tight budget taking care of them ... sweat.gif some more ... she don't even want to touch her dry food, she only want to eat wet food which is more expensive ... rclxub.gif sweat.gif is it ok if i feed her Careline canned food ?

hehehehe ... for the picture ... have to wait for suitable time bcos they all in a dark box, n i don't want to make her scared by taking photo.

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Thanks, yup i'm very happy n relieve.  biggrin.gif

Ermmm ... if that the case, i'll wait 2 more days n see how she's doing n the abdomen condition.

Actually this morning before i went to work only 3 kitten, when i visit her during lunch break, i was so shock bocs it's became 5 kitten ... now i think i'll be on tight tight budget taking care of them ...  sweat.gif some more ... she don't even want to touch her dry food, she only want to eat wet food which is more expensive ...  rclxub.gif  sweat.gif  is it ok if i feed her Careline canned food ?

hehehehe ... for the picture ... have to wait for suitable time bcos they all in a dark box, n i don't want to make her scared by taking photo.
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now u need to teach your cat eating kibbles (dry food).. wet food can spoil your cat, because it taste more nicer than dry food eheheh... teach her like mix about wet food with the dry food. hopefully she like it. and slowly reduce wet food till it become 100% dry food.
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El...I nak tanye sikit pasal lice tu la...

1) Boleh ke I gunakan frontline spray kat kitten age not ore than 1 month for the treatment for lice...

2) Boleh ke I mandikan kitten tu?sbb u ckp klu nk hlgkan lice, kn slalu mandikan...rs cam kecik sgt je nak mandikan...ok ke?

3) Lice boleh jangkit kat other cats ke or human ke?

4) Camne diorg leh kena lice tu ek?




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El...I nak tanye sikit pasal lice tu la...

1) Boleh ke I gunakan frontline spray kat kitten age not ore than 1 month for the treatment for lice...

2) Boleh ke I mandikan kitten tu?sbb u ckp klu nk hlgkan lice, kn slalu mandikan...rs cam kecik sgt je nak mandikan...ok ke?

3) Lice boleh jangkit kat other cats ke or human ke?

4) Camne diorg leh kena lice tu ek?
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1) Boleh ke I gunakan frontline spray kat kitten age not ore than 1 month for the treatment for lice... = NO! Frontline is for kitten/puppy age 2 months above and older.



2) Boleh ke I mandikan kitten tu?sbb u ckp klu nk hlgkan lice, kn slalu mandikan...rs cam kecik sgt je nak mandikan...ok ke?
= I thought you mention about kitten yang dah besar, rupa nya less than 1 month! gosh don't mandi them yet lah. still very small eheheh. Mandi the mother, if u use frontline or shampoo fleas on the mother, make sure you bilas lama sikit. bagi semua tanggal. if malas nak mandi kan ibu nya, then guna frontline spot on dan titik kan pada atas leher ibu.

Approved for use on pregnant or nursing mothers (approved for FRONTLINE Plus and Top Spot® only). Ingat spot on saya, bukan spray tau!! for more info about frontline go to http://frontline.us.merial.com/products/index.asp



3) Lice boleh jangkit kat other cats ke or human ke? = Jangkitan Lice sebenarnya paling tak common. i mean that famous. but hopefully yang ada pada kucing you sekarang is lice lah. lice ni nampak macam debu2 pasir hujung2 bulu. kalau yang u nampak u atas kulit, then its something else. harap2 bukan walking dandruff. Generally lice pada kucing tak akan pergi ke manusia. kebiasaan nya, lice ni suka lepak pada bahagian muka, dan leher kucing. kalau you perhati betul2 lice dewasa akan turun naik bulu kucing. contoh nya, u cabut sikit bulu tu, dan buka lampu terang, letak kain hitam di bawah bulu tu. kalau tak bergerak, but still ada "dot" or bintik pada bulu tu, means telur dia. Lice susah sikit nak jangkit pada kucing lain, melainkan dorang tidur depan, berpeluk or bulu bersentuhan. lice hanya boleh merayap.. dia tak melompat.. so kalau kucing tu jarak jauh dgn kucing dia, lice tak akan dapat lompat. As for now, jangan letak apa apa berbulu seperti tuala ke apa ke dekat kucing dan kitten tu. just alas dengan surat khabar.

The best way is to frontline SPOT ON the mother kalau you tak mahu mandi kan dia. sekali sekala tu, ambil kain, rendam kan dan perah... and now lap kat ibu kucing tu. macam buat kat org demam ehehe. as for the kitten don't worry. umur dia 3 minggu u boleh lap kan anak anak tu sekali. as for now, biar ibu yang bersih kan anak dia.
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last time, my cat had MIA for three days .. after some research, she is actually lepak2 at a neighbour's house and got stuck there when the whole family gone balik kampung.. when suzie return home, she is super skinny and i give bring her to the vet ... she's on science plan diet ...

after she got ok edi ... one thing really different about her .. she dont want to eat 'ikan rebus' anymore .. but eat my ferret kibbles .. that keep me wondered ...

why ?

p/s: but the good thing is, i dont need to buy her fish everyday anymore and she mostly at home now .. if not, sure merayap here and there .. only back home to eat ..

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El...

I rasa bukan lice la...coz benda tu atas kulit...betul2 atas permukaan kulit...cam kelemumur kat kepala kita...dia pun nampak cam kelemumur...ade kat bahagian badan dia...kat area perut...kat ibu dia takde la pulak...camne anak die boleh ade...
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I rasa bukan lice la...coz benda tu atas kulit...betul2 atas permukaan kulit...cam kelemumur kat kepala kita...dia pun nampak cam kelemumur...ade kat bahagian badan dia...kat area perut...kat ibu dia takde la pulak...camne anak die boleh ade...
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Berapa hari baru ni? i mean kelahiran tu? entah2 apa you tengok tu, kulit kering tak. si ibu dia pemalas eh? well, like kitten kan waktu keluar tu berlendir2 dan basah. so i was thinking, if terlalu baru, might be lendir2 kering yang bertukar menjadi kelemumur, atas sebab ibu yang belum ada masa lagi nak groom anak dia.

if u try lap dengan kain biasa, jatuh tak benda tu?

macam lice, kita guna kuku pun susah nak tarik dia dari bulu, guna sikat, lap dgn kain .. pun tak jatuh encik.lice.

if this kelemumur yang u tengok tu jatuh bila u ambik, or lap kitten tu dengan kain.. then it sound not serious eh...
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kitten I dah dekat 1 months...masa baru lahir takde...dalam beberape minggu ni...ibu die mmg malas nak bersihkan anak die...nak bagi susu pun malas...kena angkat die masuk dalam box..n urut2 sikit ...baru die baring bagi anak die susu...

benda cam kelemumur tu baru 1 minggu...kat tempat yg ade kelemumur tu...kulit kering giler...n bulu takde...mmg kalau tarik...die jatuh...cam kelemumur...

but kat kulit at that area...takde kesan merah atau ape2...cuma tgk kering sgt...

klu u sentuh dgn tangan kat area tu...rasa kasar...

dulu...anak fropm ibu yg sama...ingat tak si gemuk yg kena cirit birit tu...ade gak cam tu masa kecik...

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kitten I dah dekat 1 months...masa baru lahir takde...dalam beberape minggu ni...ibu die mmg malas nak bersihkan anak die...nak bagi susu pun malas...kena angkat die masuk dalam box..n urut2 sikit ...baru die baring bagi anak die susu...

benda cam kelemumur tu baru 1 minggu...kat tempat yg ade kelemumur tu...kulit kering giler...n bulu takde...mmg kalau tarik...die jatuh...cam kelemumur...

but kat kulit at that area...takde kesan merah atau ape2...cuma tgk kering sgt...

klu u sentuh dgn tangan kat area tu...rasa kasar...

dulu...anak fropm ibu yg sama...ingat tak si gemuk yg kena cirit birit tu...ade gak cam tu masa kecik...
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if u rasa NEGATIVE from parasite - which u tak ada jumpa pun benda2 merayap or lompat2 (sound scary, i know ehehe)... then i suspected dorang kena skin infection. can be from fungus too, can also be persekitaran. macam rashes kat baby manusia.. i selalu perasan tengok baby kecik2, mesti ada masalah ruam, rashes bintik gatal kat leher, siku, dan lain lain.

if dia jatuh, not a big problem. that sound like buat parasite. even the walking dandruff pun susah nak di jatuh kan.

but i was wondering, kenapa bulu tak de??? i know some kitten lahir memang dgn kurang , especially bahagian bawah perut.

i pernah tengok kulit kering before dekat my friends punya cats. i understand that situation, but time past by, ibu dia suka menjilat anak, so the kitten jadi bersih.

if your female cat pemalas eheheh (mengangkang je tau tongue.gif)... then u need to become penjaga ehehe.. lap lap.. ambik kain yang basah dan perah tadi tu.. lap skit skit..

i rasa jgn di garu kot kesan merah tu, takut jadi luka, lepas tu kang jadi kurup sad.gif

so harap2 bukan benda yang i benci tu lah ye smile.gif kalau gi vet pun, maybe dorang bagi krim untuk sapu kat bahagian tu.


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Lap dgn kain basah je ke el??tak yah letak ape2?

all 4 kittens ade dandruff tu...


Added on November 22, 2008, 2:05 pmwaaa....el...

I ade baca pasal walking dandruff...lagi byk I baca...makin geli lak... tongue.gif

Rasa cam nak gi vet secepat mungkin...sian tgk diorg kena benda tu...

Yg I perasan...anak si kembang smue ade penyakit camtu...mmg baka die kulit sensitif kot...



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Lap dgn kain basah je  ke el??tak yah letak ape2?

all 4 kittens ade dandruff tu...


Added on November 22, 2008, 2:05 pmwaaa....el...

I ade baca pasal walking dandruff...lagi byk I baca...makin geli lak... tongue.gif

Rasa cam nak gi vet secepat mungkin...sian tgk diorg kena benda tu...

Yg I perasan...anak si kembang smue ade penyakit camtu...mmg baka die kulit sensitif kot...
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walking dandruff memang mengeri kan. sampai satu tahap kritikal, kucing tu kena cukup. please jauh kan dari mala petaka tu ye tongue.gif

lap dgn kain yang sembap.. yang basah sgt.. tak yah letak apa apa.. sbb kitten tu kecik lagi kan. takut body dia lemah nak lawan chemical product2 ni.

kalau you nak sapu minyak gamat pun boleh. but i tak berani jamin, bukan apa, i takut ibu dia terus reject anak nya sebab bau pelik tongue.gif ye lah, kitten tu walaupun ibu pemalas, masih bawah jagaan ibu kan...

if it was just a rashes, kulit kering biasa, u dont have to worry that much. insyallah tak ada apa yang teruk.

like my friends punya kitten dulu, vet tu cakap, keadaan suhu dia letak anak kucing tu terlalu kering dan panas. memang betul kitten perlu suhu tinggi, but not di pancar dgn matahari eheheh.

yea i pun rasa dorang ni keturunan sakit kulit kot kan. sensitive.

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balik pada kes i pula, kitten i lahir2 je, kulit perut terkoyak! u imagine that eheheh.. i suspect ibu dia tergigit perut dia. luka tu jadi besar, till u can see berdenyut2 and nampak isi isi. minyak gamat juga penyelamat kitten ni. 3-4 hari luka tu mula kering. dia tidur asing2 dgn ibu dia. masa nak menyusu je duduk dekat. sebab i tak mau ibu dia jilat bahagian tu. mesti sakit, lidah kucing kan kasar.

now dia dah 8 bulan duduk kat family baru in Subang smile.gif
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walking dandruff memang mengeri kan. sampai satu tahap kritikal, kucing tu kena cukup. please jauh kan dari mala petaka tu ye tongue.gif

lap dgn kain yang sembap.. yang basah sgt.. tak yah letak apa apa.. sbb kitten tu kecik lagi kan. takut body dia lemah nak lawan chemical product2 ni.

kalau you nak sapu minyak gamat pun boleh. but i tak berani jamin, bukan apa, i takut ibu dia terus reject anak nya sebab bau pelik tongue.gif ye lah, kitten tu walaupun ibu pemalas, masih bawah jagaan ibu kan...

if it was just a rashes, kulit kering biasa, u dont have to worry that much. insyallah tak ada apa yang teruk.

like my friends punya kitten dulu, vet tu cakap, keadaan suhu dia letak anak kucing tu terlalu kering dan panas. memang betul kitten perlu suhu tinggi, but not di pancar dgn matahari eheheh.

yea i pun rasa dorang ni keturunan sakit kulit kot kan. sensitive.

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balik pada kes i pula, kitten i lahir2 je, kulit perut terkoyak! u imagine that eheheh.. i suspect ibu dia tergigit perut dia. luka tu jadi besar, till u can see berdenyut2 and nampak isi isi. minyak gamat juga penyelamat kitten ni. 3-4 hari luka tu mula kering. dia tidur asing2 dgn ibu dia. masa nak menyusu je duduk dekat. sebab i tak mau ibu dia jilat bahagian tu. mesti sakit, lidah kucing kan kasar.

now dia dah 8 bulan duduk kat family baru in Subang smile.gif
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El...

I ade letak minyak gamat...but yg kat perut je...dandruff yg nampak berkeping2 besar2 t dah hilang.....nmpk kulit die cam nak baik......tapi yg kat atas mata...I tak berani letak minyak gamat ...takut termasuk kat mata...

hopefully la takde ape...u pakai minyak gamat brand ape...?I nak gi cari cam u punya la... tongue.gif


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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 22 2008, 03:02 PM)
El...

I ade letak minyak gamat...but yg kat perut je...dandruff yg nampak berkeping2 besar2 t dah hilang.....nmpk kulit die cam nak baik......tapi yg kat atas mata...I tak berani letak minyak gamat ...takut termasuk kat mata...

hopefully la takde ape...u pakai minyak gamat brand ape...?I nak gi cari cam u punya la... tongue.gif
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eheheh my minyak gamat cap apa ntah.. cover pun dah pudar2 eheheh... but yang warna hitam.. i mean minyak dia warna hitam.

oh well u know lah sekarang teknologi kan, minyak gamat yang dulu nya hitam dah jadi macam krim, gel, etc. but i still prefer the tradisional look eheheh... biar lah tak cantik asal kan bagus eheheh

check your kitten ears, bersih tak?
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their ears have ear mites...already clean it but was2 la nak letak ear drops 2...leh ke utk kitten...


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wat brand of cats food is good?
im feeding RC, but i heard tat is not reli gud oso.

recommended Orijen, Evo, Artemis and Regal. i noe these brands r expensive. but they reli gud? wic 1 is more recommended? actually i oso got budget arnd RC price. if price range within tat price i can consider.

thx in adv for d advise!
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 22 2008, 04:53 PM)
already check 2 days ago...

their ears have ear mites...already clean it but was2 la nak letak ear drops 2...leh ke utk kitten...
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eerrkk for that small kitten, i tak berani nak letak chemical...

i hanya guna air je...dan lap kering...

normally for kitten that age, dorang tak sepatut nya ada mites tau. it must come from the mother. so ibu tu kalau boleh before beranak, kena berada dalam keadaan 100% bersih. because later masa beranak, dia akan mengeluarkan bau, bendalir, darah, which penyakit, disease, fungus senang datang.

huhuhu bukan kerja yang senang kalau kucing beranak. dorang lah yang senang. tuan nya merana tongue.gif

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 22 2008, 05:47 PM)
eerrkk for that small kitten, i tak berani nak letak chemical...

i hanya guna air je...dan lap kering...

normally for kitten that age, dorang tak sepatut nya ada mites tau. it must come from the mother. so ibu tu kalau boleh before beranak, kena berada dalam keadaan 100% bersih. because later masa beranak, dia akan mengeluarkan bau, bendalir, darah, which penyakit, disease, fungus senang datang.

huhuhu bukan kerja yang senang kalau kucing beranak. dorang lah yang senang. tuan nya merana tongue.gif
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waaa...ibu dia mmg ade ear mites...I pun tak tau bile kena...but i dah cuci n letak ubat..

for the kitten camne..for sure dalam telinga die tu ear mites...nak buat ape ek?


Added on November 22, 2008, 7:06 pmI rase penat la dengan si kembang ni..coz die malas jaga anak2....

semua i yg buat..lap mata kitten, mulut die...bersihkan tempat..

perghh...letih.... sweat.gif



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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 22 2008, 07:02 PM)
waaa...ibu dia mmg ade ear mites...I pun tak tau bile kena...but i dah cuci n letak ubat..

for the kitten camne..for sure dalam telinga die tu ear mites...nak buat ape ek?


Added on November 22, 2008, 7:06 pmI rase penat la dengan si kembang ni..coz die malas jaga anak2....

semua i yg buat..lap mata kitten, mulut die...bersihkan tempat..

perghh...letih.... sweat.gif
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biasa lah tu... kepenatan ehehe...

telinga kucing time kecik macam tu susah skit, sbb tak terbuka sgt. kena tunggu after 1 month.. pakai kain or tisu lap lap bahagian yang dapat je.. atau hujung lain tu u letak ear mites drop tu.. pastu lap skit skit..
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elf, momoy died yesterday.. I told the vet and asked if she might got peritonitis.. the vet said there's a possibility. But nothing change the fact she's gone now.. cry.gif cry.gif
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Hi nicoty_yne,

my sincere appologies 4 ur lost...look at the bright side, she is all well from her pains and is in a better place now smile.gif ... be strong!!!


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nicoty_yne....

I'm so sorry to hear about momoy...

I pun pernah rasa benda mcm ni...n it's hard 2 accept right...

Hope u tabah hadapi dugaan tuhan...


Added on November 20, 2008, 11:03 pmhai el...

mane si ashbutt...lame tk nmpk...


Added on November 20, 2008, 11:05 pmEl...

anak si kembang...4 of them...all its skin have a skin problem la...ade benda cam dandruff, brown color...ape tu ek?


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hi serena...

ur cat carrot looks like my cat oren...how old he/she?? male or female?
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cik ina...saya disini. lama x on9 sbb busy gan hal hal dunia tongue.gif

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hai ash...

mlm ni online tak??
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hai ash...

mlm ni online tak??
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yes yes on9...mesti!!! thumbup.gif
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kul bape online...jangan malam sgt...ngantukla..

el online tak?

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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 22 2008, 08:53 PM)
kul bape online...jangan malam sgt...ngantukla..

el online tak?
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nie tgh on9 lah...maybe on9 till tengah malam kot, xleh lewat sgt sbb sok pagi2 ad projek besar besaran tongue.gif

Elf...busy,dia pie kuar dating biggrin.gif
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laa...kit aonline mlm sikit...mungkin kul 11.30pm ke atas sampai kul 1.30


Added on November 22, 2008, 9:16 pmel gi dating ngan sape?


Added on November 22, 2008, 9:17 pmash...

i offline jap...nanti sampai rumah...I online balik mungkin lambat ckit...

ok...bye2...


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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 22 2008, 09:15 PM)
laa...kit aonline mlm sikit...mungkin kul 11.30pm ke atas sampai kul 1.30


Added on November 22, 2008, 9:16 pmel gi dating ngan sape?


Added on November 22, 2008, 9:17 pmash...

i offline jap...nanti sampai rumah...I online balik mungkin lambat ckit...

ok...bye2...
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beres...beres x dak hal.
entahlah si Elf nie pie dating gan minah maner...janji dia bahagia tongue.gif
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weh wah wah wah... aku baru je buat hal laih, korang nak mengutuk. SKY and MIA marah tau tongue.gif

aku nak kuar dating sat lagi, around 10... maybe midnight baru online balik. korang mesti dah tidor punya kan.
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 22 2008, 09:26 PM)
weh wah wah wah... aku baru je buat hal laih, korang nak mengutuk. SKY and MIA marah tau tongue.gif

aku nak kuar dating sat lagi, around 10... maybe midnight baru online balik. korang mesti dah tidor punya kan.
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hahahahahaha...Mia & Sky mintak ampun byk2 sbb kutuk daddy korang ek... tongue.gif
aik kuar dating 2jam jer ker...hehehehehehehehehe
xtido ...on9 smp kui 1 pagi lebih, dah set date gan cik ina.
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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Nov 22 2008, 09:37 PM)
hahahahahaha...Mia & Sky mintak ampun byk2 sbb kutuk daddy korang ek...  tongue.gif
aik kuar dating 2jam jer ker...hehehehehehehehehe
xtido ...on9 smp kui 1 pagi lebih, dah set date gan cik ina.
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ash & ina check PM
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El gi dating kat mn ash? suruh die bawak mia n sky skali...
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 22 2008, 11:10 PM)
El gi dating kat mn ash? suruh die bawak mia n sky skali...
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El gi dating kat Chow Kitt...

Nie Cik Ina...ada baca PM x??? ada berita hangat dari elf.
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ya ...ade...

jap tgh gi sana la ni...

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