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krynzpeaches
post Oct 20 2008, 01:47 PM

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Wahhh, V4!!!

Congrats!

Wish I could be more active here like last time sad.gif

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Added on October 20, 2008, 1:53 pm
QUOTE(kamagotchi @ Oct 20 2008, 07:50 AM)
thanks but i bought that thing including the dvd and all.. just that the smaller kitten is like frigging stupid... harap muka je kiut melampau. thanks again
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There is a training duration time to train your cats.

Unless the kitten has passed the maximum training period, then only you can say stupid lar...

Even adults can be trained to use it, apatah lagi kitten.

QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 20 2008, 08:03 AM)
Eh mana nk dpt benda nie yg dlm video tu?Ada ke kt msia nie? hmm.gif
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Litter Kwitter is available in M'sia.

Pet Epicure@Taman Melawati carries/sells it.

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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 20 2008, 02:06 PM)
Taman melawati?How much sis? hmm.gif
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If not mistaken, appx. RM200++

If got money, it's a good investment, especially like me staying in an apartment smile.gif

So far, all my cats are litter trained even the smallest one, but the litter particles tend to fly around and can feel then around the house when you walk.

QUOTE(abang brother @ Oct 20 2008, 02:42 PM)
Hey you, hows oren? Any pictures? biggrin.gif
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Oren sihat-sihat aje biggrin.gif

Sleeps more nowadays as he grows older.

Tapi still reti bahasa...

Very much lovable as before wink.gif

Okay, here's one of the recent pixs of Oren with his rattan ball smile.gif

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post Oct 20 2008, 05:29 PM

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El,

The cat age vs human age is true ke?

Makes the cats look really old after looking at the chart...

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post Oct 23 2008, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(kamagotchi @ Oct 22 2008, 02:25 PM)
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Gambar baru Chibie~ Bawak jalan2 on leashh ke pantai.. whee~
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Chibie is adorable! wub.gif

I can't seem to train mine to walk on leash. Bila pakai kan leash, terus lumpuh tak nak gerak doh.gif

Do you train Chibie from small?

I have a new kitten - Abu, wanna train him lar, but so far not so successful.

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post Oct 23 2008, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(kamagotchi @ Oct 23 2008, 01:14 PM)
Thanks. He is pretty cute, I guess.
Dia masih kecik jugak, about 14/15 weeks. Leash tu without the harness, biarkan dia pakai sampai dia biasa.
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Haha, I love tabbies smile.gif

Yeah, harness memang confirm tak leh pakai...

With Oren, attach the leash to the collar pun, tak leh jalan...

With Abu, attach the leash to the collar, he wants to play with the leash doh.gif

Oren is 1 yr +++

Abu is appx. 3 months +

Almost same with Chibie I guess. But Chibie looks bigger!

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post Oct 31 2008, 01:30 PM

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hamster9,

Sorry for your loss.

May Garfield R.I.P

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- - - - -

You guys should watch Oprah last few nights about puppy mills and animal rescuers.

What happens today is because of the many pet keepers who refuses to neuter/spay their pets and yet refuses to care for their off springs...

I cried watching it.

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Abang brother,

I want the dancing panda on your siggy! Boleh lar...

Please... wub.gif

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post Nov 6 2008, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(abang brother @ Oct 31 2008, 03:41 PM)
lol krynz, just take it. biggrin.gif
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Cannot lah, when click, it goes to an empty imageshack page.

You have to PM me the link tongue.gif

Thanks!

QUOTE(Chinchillas @ Nov 1 2008, 12:22 AM)
Any of you can talk little bit about scotish fold? I really like this breed, any of you have 1?
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Very hard to find pure breed scottish fold owner here.

Even the ones sold at pet shops here are not pure breed as they claim, their ears looks folding, but just a little and they call it scottish fold...

We have a scottish fold cattery here, but in Sarawak if not mistaken. These are pure breeds.

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post Nov 20 2008, 12:49 PM

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Hola, hola! wave.gif

KP reporting in after such a long time!

Howow you all?

Oren sez "Hi!"

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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 20 2008, 01:16 PM)
elf, momoy died yesterday.. I told the vet and asked if she might got peritonitis.. the vet said there's a possibility. But nothing change the fact she's gone now.. cry.gif cry.gif
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Sorry for your lost.

RIP Momoy.

QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 20 2008, 01:20 PM)
Hello KP and Oren.. it has been a very long time tak nampak you kat sini... buang batu betul tongue.gif
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Buang batu???

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Nov 20 2008, 01:22 PM)
is there any good wet food ? And roughly how much ?
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Addiction: Salmon & Potato - RM5.40 per can smile.gif

So good smelling, you'll feel like eating too! Unlike Friskies or Whiskas, can't stand the smell tongue.gif

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post Nov 27 2008, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(decypher @ Nov 27 2008, 03:32 AM)
Dear Cat Lovers

What cat litter do you use and how often do you need to restock? I currently use Cat-san (bought from Jusco), but my cat seems to finish a 5kg pack in about a week.

I ended up using Cat-san because the other brands don't clump and leave very bad smell.

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OKOPLUS rclxm9.gif

It's clumps really-really well.

10 liter bag can last me up to 3 months for 1 cat and 2 months for 3 cats.

Drawback, a bit hard to get, so far only found at Pets Wonderland.

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post Nov 27 2008, 02:25 PM

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EL, why you're using Fussie?

I tried it once and twice and totally cannot deal with it... Very hard to clean lah...

What happened to OKOPLUS Rocks?

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post Nov 27 2008, 03:50 PM

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Fresh urine can lah... But the one overnight and you wanna change the next morning punya dah jadi sticky like clay sad.gif

Yeah, drawback for OKOPLUS is the availability... I get them from Pets Wonderland Great Eastern Mall. Lucky Great Eastern Mall is convenient for me smile.gif Plus the PW there has much better choices than at MV one smile.gif

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Hellooo peeps!

Miss me? Muahaha tongue.gif

QUOTE(shah21 @ Jan 6 2009, 03:44 AM)
Hi Elf, this is my American short hair. I bought her from pet shop nearly 4k(without cert) but i'm not sure what kind of breed she is. It's because her stripes got marble and i've scroll the internet and i not found any colour like she have.. what your opinion? Is it she was cross breed?  hmm.gif
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Looks pretty much like an American Shorthair but I must stress that without proper certification it is NOT a purebreed no matter how much the seller tells you it is or how much you paid for it. And nearly 4k without a cert is a rip off.

She even be cross bred, if not her parents in her gene line and if she was cross bred, she will fall under Domestic Short Hair (DSH) category.

A lot of people finds this frustrating and accuse me of being jelous or snotty regarding breeds, but I am aiming to make this issue clear to cat lovers especially so that you won't get cheated. If you are in doubt about my explanation or simply would not trust me, I am happy to assist you to CFA Malaysia and the president himself might be available to explain these issues to you smile.gif

QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 6 2009, 08:31 AM)
El, Betul ke ni Bengal? Macam kucing biasa je. blink.gif
Link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/879608
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NO Cert, NO Bengal.

Summore selling at RM300 for a claimed purebreed?

Even an F3 Bengal or the latter gen will have a cert.

Biar berbuih skali pun orang tell me that a certain cat is a purebreed or this breed or that, I need a cert proof to believe it.

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QUOTE(shah21 @ Jan 5 2009, 05:33 AM)
Elf, thanks for your info.. but for your information, my female Bengal is from pure breed. Unfortunately, she don't have certificate. It's because her previous owner sell to me nearly 2k with cert. or RM1500 without cert. That means if i want that cert, it will cost me more money to spend on it.. I'm not the breeder so we've dicided bought her without cert.

Honestly, for me those cert. can buy juz RM500 only and i not sure how they do it. So what for i need that? I juz bought her as a gift for my doughter birthday only.. And now, i really confused & don't know how to reconized the pure breed or not. rclxub.gif  But i'm sure that my Bengal is from pure breed coz i've seen her parent already.
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Actually you don't have to be a breeder to keep a cat with a certificate. The certificate is proof of pedigree and as important as a humans birth certificate.

Who said the cert can be purchased at RM500? If someone did, bring the cert to CFA and they can certifiy it is fraud, why get or buy a fraud cert when you could have the real one for less if the parents are REALLY purebreed?

The certifcate registration cost only about RM30.00

Even if you have seen the parents, did you see their certificate?

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Added on January 6, 2009, 11:09 am
QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 6 2009, 11:03 AM)
LOL, that wasn't my question actually, my question is betul ke tu bengal, because he looks like a normal cat.
I'm not asking either he's a pure breed or not la bro. laugh.gif

Eitherway, you got a good point there though.
No certificate, no proof he's a bengal. hmm.gif 
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I know what you mean, probably my answer wasn't clear...

Some bengal do look like normal cat at one glance, but they are Bengals with Certificate summore.

So the one in the link you gave could probably be a Bengal or cross breed with one and so on, but like I said earlier, NO cert, No Bengal... And any cross breed will instantly become DSH.

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Jan 6 2009, 12:53 PM)
Dude, im not sure your standard of living like what. maybe you are one of those rich people. RM1500 for cap palang bengal is not cheap at all.. with RM1500, u can get about 3 domestic long hair kitten if u know how. some more RM1500 you buying cap palang bengal + sickness. that is so frustrated if that RM1500 is mind.
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Actually, for RM1.5k, you can get a certified pet quality Bengal already. I think F3 line kot... Saw at Aliff Athirah Cattery last time.

QUOTE(elfreakz @ Jan 6 2009, 12:57 PM)
and again, "without cert" automatically become Domestic Short Hair. nowadays, all cats can bring that color and stripe. due do too much cross breeding happening around the world. in future, u will see long hair cat persian look alike, paling and eating at Mamak stall, and road side.

No black and white saying that cat is american short hair. if like that, i also can call my kucing kampung with that stripe as american short hair lah ehehehe.. i have a kucing kampung look like siamese, can i call them siamese? NO ofcourse. I have a cat look like birman, but actually domestic cat, can i call them birman? no ofcourse, because non of them born with certificate.

if u want pure breed, never buy at petshop. because they are not the first hand owner. they get their supply from many people.

if u really want a pure breed, get it from cattery breeder.
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There's this huge male cat terrorising my apt area, dark brown patterns just like a Bengal also... Purely stray cat, so geram with him... Dunno where he came from...

Yeah, if you want a certified breed, try look for a cattery. You definitely won't be disappointed. Good pet quality, certified summore, for a more reasonable price...

QUOTE(elfreakz @ Jan 6 2009, 02:45 PM)
i don't mind people want to breed their cat, it is your choice to do so, nobody can stop. but never take granted with all this kitten. yes u can sell it, but sell it with minimum price, and let your buyer know what cat is your cat, dont simply say the pedigree name, when it is not pure.

many people, including me long time ago, i dont care what is pedigree, what is pure breed... u need to do reading on all this. after that, then you know why people so strict and making pedigree as a serious talk.

again i don't mind u want to breed your cat, but please do it properly. like long hair with long hair, short hair with short hair. if your cat carry sickness, don't breed them.

the best is to spay/neuter you cat if they are not pedigree. even a pure breed cattery will neuter their cat if they cannot produce good kitten or if they is aggression genetic runs in the family.

neuter/spay is not a bad things to do, trust me, you will get better cats if u neuter them. thumbup.gif
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Couldn't agree more on this El smile.gif

QUOTE(jinkinz @ Jan 6 2009, 08:11 PM)
yo cat lovers can u ppl train a cat to listen and follow your instruction?
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Can, but need lots and lots and lots and lots of patience. Cats are not like dogs, they have their own mind and their own sweet time. They'll only listen to you when they want to or feel like to smile.gif

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Jan 7 2009, 08:49 PM)
No it's not super premium  blink.gif

that super premium printed on proformance is just for marketing thinggy. the fact, proformance is standing on the same level as IAMS.

Yes proformance is among the cheapest Premium cat food. but lately very hard to get. i have to switch to Science Plan due to the old petshop will not supply this food anymore.

it's a not bad food anyway...  nod.gif
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My case, Eagle Pack is getting harder to get, so I've been using more Orijen.

Then I heard of Evo, which I tried once, but mahal lah...

Now going for Blackwood cuz the volume and price is okay lah.

I think will rotate between Orijen and Blackwood from now on smile.gif

QUOTE(shah21 @ Jan 7 2009, 11:16 PM)
Yo buddy, may i know what is 'F3 line' means is? and to Elf, may u specific bout neuter/spay the cat benefit was? Sorry to say but isn't its cruel to animal if we neuter them like we have take-off their life as animal?  hmm.gif i mean they couldn't do sex or matting and thats mean is they're missing 'the enjoyable of life'..

p/s: i'm still learning and please tell me more..TQ.  wink.gif

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F1, F2, F3, F4 refer to their genetic line.

F1 Bengal is the closest or the first gen from domestic crossing with Asian Leopard Cat (ALC). The F2 and so on are results of more crossing (between Bengal gens) if not mistaken.

Anyway, here's a little explanation about F1-F4 from Wiki:

"The first three filial generations (F1 - F3) of these hybrid animals are referred to as the "foundation" generations. A Bengal cat with an ALC parent is called an F1 Bengal, short for first filial. An F1 then bred with a domestic male yields an F2, or second filial. Kittens from an F2 female and another domestic cat are then termed F3. Kittens from a subsequent F3 mating with a domestic are F4s. The F4 and later generations are considered domestic cats, are designated as Stud Book Tradition (SBT) Bengals, and can be shown and registered. Any SBT Bengal is at least four generations removed from the ALC. Founders (F1-F3) are typically reserved for breeding purposes or the specialty pet home environment.'

Shah,

I think in our 1st page, El has listed down the benefits and such about neutering/spaying.

Yes, there is a lot of benefits to neutering/spaying including reducing the risk of cancer, less aggression, more docile, less dominant and fights and so on.

NO, neutering/spaying is NOT cruel. Who said neutering/spaying takes of their life as an animal?

So letting a non neutered cat fight, breed over and over, abandon the kittens and turn old before their time is not cruel?

Sex is only enjoyable to human. Animals have no feelings/desire like humans do, it's pure instinct and nature to them, that is why they do not recognize father, mother, brother or sister when it comes to mating. No, they will not miss 'the enjoyable of life'.

"Akal manusia dikurniakan untuk berfikir, akal binatang tidak"

So never put human feelings or emotions to compare with animals.

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Jan 8 2009, 03:06 PM)
my advice, anybody who do not know about pedigree cat, domestic cat, cat's health concern, and etc. Please stop breeding your cat.

i really like this statement of krynzpeaches = "Akal manusia dikurniakan untuk berfikir, akal binatang tidak"

i want to add alil bit,
"Akal manusia dikurniakan untuk kebaikkan binatang".
"Tiada kebaikan bermaksud - Cruelty".
Sex is only enjoyable to human. Animals have no feelings/desire like humans do, it's pure instinct and nature to them, that is why they do not recognize father, mother, brother or sister when it comes to mating. No, they will not miss 'the enjoyable of life'. = SO TRUE, ANIMAL WON'T THINK LIKE HUMAN, BUT HUMAN DO THINK LIKE THE ANIMAL WAY.

So, renung-renung kan lah, kewajiban seorang manusia terhadap haiwan yang dikurnikan oleh yang maha esa. Kerana Haiwan itu adalah tanggungjawab kita sebagai manusia.
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Thanks El.

I'm just trying to create more awareness of this issue dari dulu lagi... I understand the love we have for our pets and that some even refers to them as "anak", but we must not take for granted their true welfare and must never forget that no matter how much we regard them as "anak" they will never be or have human feelings like us.

They also do not know what is good or what is bad for them, it is up to us to decide for them.

QUOTE(elfreakz @ Jan 8 2009, 03:08 PM)
good food eh? You have the money? go for ORIJEN  thumbup.gif
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I forgot to touch on one thing.

The vet at Ara Ampg loved Oren and asked what did I feed him. At that time I was trying out Evo, the vet said he has heard of people saying that Evo is good and asked me what is the content like as Ara doesn't have other Super Premium food than RC. So I said it's because they don't contain glutten, no by-product and very high in protein.

Then the vet asked, how much protein? I told him that Evo's protein content is appx. 50%. The vet said he thot that 30% protein is high enough for cats... Unless if we wanna follow their true diet like feeding raw and such lah... However, the vet did advise to ensure that if we are feeding high protein food to our cats, please ensure that they drink a lot or enough water... Something about getting stones or kidney problem if lack of water...

I said so far Oren has been drinking okay, always finishes his bowl of water compared to food and I always make sure his water bowl is filled all the time smile.gif

So, making sure that your cat drinks is also important besides giving them good food wink.gif

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QUOTE(shah21 @ Jan 8 2009, 07:50 PM)
I would like say thanks to 'krynzpeaches' and 'Elf' for the valuable info. thumbup.gif I really appreaciated it..  notworthy.gif

>>> No problem, glad could be of help.

But in here also i want to share my experienced bout my neuter Siamese male cat. I've adopt him last 3 month ago from 'Mamak stall'. That time he was thin and dirty so my wife and i dicided to bring him home. Ofcoz my dominant male cat(British cross breed) very angry and 'mengamuk' like crazy but juz an hour only.. (Biasa la, kacau his teritory maybe). After a week, that Siamese still can't get along with the others cats even with female cats. for your infomation, that Siamese cat only have 1 testis only. Is it he had been neuter by his previous owner or cacat? hmm.gif

>>> First of all, like what El has mentioned, one (1) testis deos NOT mean neutered.

Second, if not sure, NEVER assume, bring your cat to the vet for check up.

Third, is all the cats in you house neutered/spayed? Having only one or two neutered cat living with other non-neutered does not help reduce aggression or fights because even neutered, they can sense the dominance from the non neutered around them.


He don't want to join or get along with others cat and always fight with others male cat too. You said that the neuter cat won't fight for their teritory & less aggresive but this is absolutely different with my cat. I'm not kurung him inside cage. He always guard the teritory and fight with the others male and that make me feel tired!! doh.gif Until now, i still don't get it why.. To prevent it(fighting), i've quarantine my British male cat with his 3 wife(poligami rules..hehe..) inside my kids room. All the others cats from baka kampung are retreat from this place. He is very jealous too!

>>> I think it is clear that all your cats are not neutered/spayed and the one you got is also not neutered lah.

Furthermore, if a cat has stray background, meaning has been/lived on the outside world, they can be aggressive and dominant than those who have not been in the outside world(meaning staying indoors all the time)


To my dear friends, please give me an advise and can u explain to me why this cat behaviour become like this please? Is it this strange behaviour because he had been neuter or what? If u guys want 2 see him, please visit at adoption site. i've advertised him there.. Thanks again my dear friends...

>>> Reason for behaviour is clear from my past two explanations, all of them are not neutered/spayed.

Kindly bring you cat to a vet for further clarification if you are still confused.

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QUOTE(tanling26 @ Jan 8 2009, 08:15 PM)
Anyone can tell me where to get MKA cat like this <---I want White only smile.gif
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MKA is Malaysian Kennel Association, it's for dog certification only.

For cats it's CFA - Cats Fancier Association.

To get a Persian with CFA certification, I advise you to look for certified catteries.

You can look it up on the web or contact CFA Malaysia for a list of catteries smile.gif

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QUOTE(shah21 @ Jan 9 2009, 03:35 AM)
Well, when i adopt him(3 month ago), that mamak told me that cat age 1 and half years old so i juz guess he might be 1 y 9 month right now.. hehe.. tongue.gif  not a big deal anyway.. That mamak also told me that this cat previous owner already migrate to oversea and left all their cats there.. But true or not, i don't know..

>>> Can you trust a mamak? They have all sorts of cats around their stall and would pretty much love to have them off their property.

Before i advertised him, i already ask my friend(British short hair breeder) that he want that cat or not & i also ask him what breed actually this cat kind was.. When he look at him, than he told me this cat wasn't Siamese pure breed and his feutures is more like Himalaya cross breed. This cat might be cross breed with Siamese. So that's why i advertised him as "Himalaya cross breed Siamese".(juz to make people interest..hehe..)

>>> In the actually cat world, any cross breed without proper genetic research or certificication to do so, will not be recognised and will be fall under these simple category of Domestic Short Hair (DSH) or Domestic Long Hair (DLH).

So technically any other name of "X cross X breed" is just to attract/interest people in the name of advertising.


About neutered or not, i not sure bout that. I juz thought this cat maybe have been neutered because he don't want any single cat even female close or get near to him even i've tried to put female cat with him in a room for 48 hours. I also see that he's not and never marking his teritory(pissing the wall) at all. based from my experienced, only the neuter male cat would not do that and that's why i assume that he might be been neutered.

Bout his testis, yapp.. He juz got 1 ball. Mostly all friend also felt wierd too when i show them this cat. I known that human also got same case like that but mostly that people still can have their own children even juz got 1 ball only.. That's why i ask u guyz is it my cat cacat or what..

No, i've never bring him to check either he been neutered or not. I juz assume that only.(the reason above). Once again, i wanna ask you my dear friends, is it he 'cacat'?

>>> Refer point two (second)... NEVER assume.

p/s: Maybe my cat can put in category "special cat case" or "DICLASSIFIED"..hehe.. tongue.gif

>>> No need, DSH will do.
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In regards to some male cats have balls / No balls / one ball...

A friend of mine adopted a kitten few months ago. The kitten is a male DSH and was already about 4 months old.

She got his medical card from the previous owner which has his vaccination record and stating that the kitten is a male.

Thing is, after 3 months plus she did not notice any balls with her kitten... She tried "feeling" for it, but said cannot feel anything... But the kitten did go to the vet last time and was proclaimed a male... She was confused.

So when I went to see my vet last two weeks, I casually asked my vet about this. The explanation is:

1) The kitten could have been neutered at a very young age. Either check with the previous owner or bring it to a vet.

2) The kitten's ball is experiencing slow growth. It will appear, but much later than normal kittens.

3) The kitten has something-something "kid" condition (sorry, can't remember the name, but it had the word "kid" in it), which means the kitten's ball was growing inwards... This condition if not neutred or treated can lead to cancer...

I've informed my friend about it, but she has yet to bring the kitten to a vet for a confirmation check up.

Moral is, I am not a real expert or a vet, nor is El. To be sure of something, just pop over to a friendly vet and you will sure to get a better and sound answer smile.gif

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post Jan 9 2009, 04:57 PM

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