If i can i would, but i'm in Kuching. Sorry.

right about she is going to labor (maybe before 1-2 weeks giving birth) feed with kitten food.

after labor, when she nursing the kitten, still feed kitten food.

it may be expensive. but this is what you need to spend if you want kittens eheheh.

ok since u don't know roughly... now feed kittern food after she give birth. which mean right after day 1 the kittens born.

kitten food is high with nutrition, protein and fat.
a pregnant mother needs alot of this 3 main keys for her coming soon kitten. ofcourse everybody want a healthy mother with a healthy kittens right. if they only want healthy kitten but not mother, then this is abusing the mother for their own good.
a nursing mothers need kitten food, to produce good healthy milk for her kittens. she eats high nutrition kitten food, and produce it become milk. now the kitten will get all the nutrition from that milk. they grew happily.

you still need kitten food later own when the kitten start eating by themself. normally they will start eating at the age of 1 month and above. so the kitten food continues.

it is not easy to have kitten ehehe just like us, not easy to have kids. producing them is easy, but taking care need more $$$.

due to budget problem, you can in big amount. let say IAMS kitten (purple color) 9.36kg is RM132. For your cat, i think this 9.36kg can last for a very long time of period. maybe 3-4 months. which is like till the kitten born and can eat ehehe.

so buying the big pack is much more money saver than buying the small small packs...

acana is a good brand. im not sure how much they selling the big pack.

so now, list down your budget carefully so it won't "membebankan" you.

its better to stick with 1 brand. frequent changing may cause stomach ache for few days till they get used with the new brand.

yes, for pregnant and mother during nursing is ok to feed kitten food. their body need more nutrition than normal cat.

u will see your female cat gets super skinny after labor later on. which makes them look so weird. so kitten food is needed to build up all the meat and body again. just like human, women who is pregnant will need to eat alot good food for their baby inside right. after labor, women will still need to continue eating good food for produce good milk for baby right. and women also still need high nutrition diet food to jaga the body, else they look weird too eheheheh

that's reflect pregnant cat and nursing mother cat too.

some cat will have fur problem, fur drop fur shed fur drying up.. so kitten food which contain high protein, fat and nutrition will help them to recover from all this.

adult food contain lesser nutrition, protein and fat. it is good for non pregnant adult cat. due too, they don't need much nutrition like pregnant / nursing cat.

elf, momoy died yesterday.. I told the vet and asked if she might got peritonitis.. the vet said there's a possibility. But nothing change the fact she's gone now..

CONGRATULATION! ehehehe wah so happy liaw!

Yes hard stomach is normal. Possibility no more, possibility YES there are still more.

Cat won't labor in one time, some of them, labor from time to time within 24-48hours. while some push everything in one time eheheh

Most kucing malaysia will not have problem with labor they are super power wonder women ehehehe... can't wait to see pictures

p/s make sure all the kitten suckling mother milk because 5 is like alot.. they will fight among each other who will get the nipples. although there are alot of nipples not all is easy to to get, especially the bottom one.. middle part nipples are the easiest.

Canadian pet food company blames quarantines for Aussie cat deaths
Tiffany Crawford, Canwest News Service
Published: Thursday, November 27, 2008

A Canadian company at the centre of an Australian pet food scare is blaming the Aussie government for an outbreak linked to a certain brand of its cat chow that has paralyzed and killed six cats and sickened dozens more.

Champion Petfoods, a family-run pet food company based in Edmonton, said Thursday it was pulling out of the Australian market after an independent study on its Orijen brand of cat food placed the blame on dangerous levels of irradiation.

At least six animals which developed paralysis have been euthanized, and veterinarians at the Small Animal Specialist Hospital in Sydney say more than 60 have been treated for symptoms of neurological disorders, including numb limbs.

"We've been getting calls from across Australia regarding new cases," said Dr. Darren Foster in Sydney. "We estimate about 400 cats have been exposed to the food."

Foster said some cats with little exposure may improve but many are progressing to complete paralysis and more will be put down.

"It is with our own pets in mind that we extend our deepest empathy to the Australian families affected by this regrettable circumstance," said Champion Petfoods in a statement.

"While we will no longer sell any of our pet foods in Australia, we remain committed to ongoing research into this case with the hope that our findings can be used to better inform the international community on the potential effects of irradiation."

Champion recalled the product in Australia as a precautionary measure on Nov. 20.

While the same brand of cat food is sold in Canada and exported to 50 countries, Champion said only Australia demands the chow be irradiated because the food isn't cooked at the same high temperatures as other imported pet food.

Foster is concerned that other veterinarians in the world might be misdiagnosing the cats and euthanizing then for cancer or some other illness.

He said more tests are being conducted on the toxicity of the food.

Irradiation is a method of preserving food by dosing it with a type of radiation - cobalt 60 gamma rays - to reduce microbial hazards, in this case in imported pet foods containing fresh meats.

The company says studies show levels between 36 and 47 kilograys of cobalt 60 gamma radiation were linked to neurological symptoms similar to those found in the affected Australian cats. It claims Australia irradiated the food to a minimum of 50 kGY and in some cases reached 61 kGY.

"These are very substantial levels of irradiation," the company said. Champion cited an American study that links high levels of irradiation with vitamin A depletion and the release of free radicals.

Irradiation of human food is considered safe at relatively low levels. According to Health Canada an absorbed dose of up to three kGY is usually sufficient to kill salmonella in fresh chicken.

To the Procurement and Nutrition Coordinator Champion Petfoods Ltd.
I was glad to see the latest press release from Champion Pet Foods and the withdrawal of Orijen pet foods from the Australian markets.
I feel a few facts need to be put forward . There are more than 30 affected cats that I have seen or spoken to their owners. 5 have been euthanased due to severe neurologic impairment and poor quality of life ( 3 completely paraplegic and 2 completely tetraplegic). At least 3 others have been euthanased in other states (2 paraplegic and 1 tetraplegic) . The affected cats have been seen in Sydney, Queensland and Canberra. 1 cat to my knowledge and 2 more reported are affected after eating orijen dog food.
The majority of the affected cats have not been fed Orijen exclusively and have been fed a variety of other dry, canned, fresh and cooked food but Orijen is common to all. This does not support Vit A deficiency as a cause. Although irradiation may reduce Vit A content in the food it was not to levels that were deficient either. The Veterinary pathology paper cited linking Vit A deficiency as a possible cause of the neurologic abnormalities was also stated as a hypothesis (this was not mentioned in the press release) not a fact and has not been substantiated . The cats in the cited study were not receiving any other food unlike the cats that have been exposed to Orijen. 2 of the cats that have recovered or improved that I have been involved with have done so with a change in diet only.The only other factor in their recovery was time (they were amongst the earliest affected in July) and physiotherapy( provided by the owner). There is no rationale to advocating Vit A supplementation (excess Vit A may be toxic) and no real evidence to support the other recommendations either. There is absolutely no evidence that supplementation with vitamins or antioxidants improves the outcome in these cats. And no evidence filtered water is important.
My recommendations have been to provide a well balanced diet-either dry, canned, raw or homecooked (preferably a combination) which would provide all the nutritional requirements necessary and time.
We are still in the evolution stage of this problem -we will not have any real idea of prognosis or outcome for probably 6 months or more. It is still likely more cases will come to light.
Irradiation of the food may or may not be the cause. The pathology suggests a neurotoxicity and the epidemiology suggests an often very delayed onset of clinical signs. Other factors I think should remain under consideration -including heat during transport/storage etc. All we know for certain so far is something is amiss somewhere between the site of manufacture and the food bowl-it may be associated with the food/ packaging or a combination of the 2, irradiation or some other factor in transit may be altering the chemical content of the food.
Certainly pathologic and toxicologic tests are still ongoing and a comprehensive epidemiologic study will be started in an effort to prevent a similar episode again. This study should include cats that are affected and those that have been fed the food that are not affected.
This has been devastating for all concerned -the cat owners (all of whom feel responsible- irrationally), the veterinarians involved (eg me who euthanased 2 beautiful completely paralysed cats from the same household on the same day) , the local retail outlets who have sold the food and champion pet foods. However unsubstantiated theories on the cause and treatments is not helping.
Compensation for owners that have large veterianary bills associated with the investigation of the causes of their cats problems needs to be addressed.
Please feel free to contact me at any time.
Yours Sincerely,
Georgina Child BVSc DACVIM (Neurology)

stormaker, are u feeding your cats with orijen anyway?

as far as i know here.. me and krynzpeaches is feeding Orijen to our cats. she have been using it for such a long time. and i started using orijen since last april 2008.

if your orijen is direct from Canada shouldnt be problem, because the they said Malaysia do not do irradiation to orijen food.

but if your distributor import orijen from australia or u bought it from australia, then high possibility that the orijen is going into irradiation process already.

yea we already know about it, u can check previous post, and a thread about orijen too..

I just started my cat on Orijen beginning Nov and has finished 3/4 of a 2.5kg pack
and just bought another new pack yesterday

For those who have bought Orijen, does anyone knows whether the Orijen here is
direct import from Canada?  Given what is happening in Australia with so many cats
gotten sick from consuming Orijen ( even though Champion Petfoods had confirmed
that this case is just isolated to Australia alone), pls forgive me if you think I am
being paranoid.

I can't seem to find the importer sticker on the packaging of Orijen I bought from
Home Pet in Sri Petaling. 

Hopefully, the local distributor here direct import from Canada and not Australia.

Anyone here has info that can be of help. Thanks

so cute!!!! the type i like, wish i can adopt it now!