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post Oct 29 2008, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(22 @ Oct 28 2008, 10:52 PM)
How about we drop the whole Alienware VS Sager thing... with no cynical remarks? I don't think Corad's mild statement about an Alienware laptop warrants an all-out debate. Corad probably didn't mean any disrespect to any of the Alienware users out there.

Besides, Alienware or Sager, most of both company's laptops' ODM are pretty much Clevo. No need for a fight, no?
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Alienware is Uniwill while Sagers are Clevos smile.gif Comparisons can still be made in this thread, but only up to the point of facts and with the least possible of subjective opinions.. goes for me too laugh.gif


QUOTE(SFX @ Oct 28 2008, 11:05 PM)

Back to corad, do you mind if you could post your benchmark?
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Oct 23 2008, 12:30 PM)
very thumbup.gif spec, DDR3 + 500gb HDD + UXWGA+ in 15.4" LCD + Matte screen + 9800GTS 512mb.... everythg is better than mine.... this is abit insane

looking forward for some screenshot such as:
- 3dmark06 default benches,
- simultaneous ATItool stress + Orthos stress (blend+priority 8) + HWmonitor for at least 30mins
- CPU-z + GPU-z
Sorry it took so long for the benchies, but the 2nd post is now updated. I've a problem with 3d Mark 06 tho, since my uni blocks most ports so I can't submit the results online. Tunneling dosent work hmm.gif
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post Oct 29 2008, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(heroiuu @ Oct 29 2008, 07:36 AM)
none the thing u said hav anything 2 do wit SAGER NP8660..

AND 2 PROVE THIS GUYS WRONG ABOUT ME, I DO MORE STUDY AND REWRITE THE NP8660...AND I DO HATE WAT I WRITE BUT THAT THE TRUE,. blush.gif HERE THE RESULT REWRITE OF NP8660 CLICK HERE
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ooo .. Hi Sabin17 !! Enjoying your Sager?


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post Oct 29 2008, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(heroiuu @ Oct 29 2008, 08:00 AM)
READ MY REPLY IN MY TOPIC
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Look, we've been patient with you going on about what's "defines" a gamming laptop.

But your posts have neither been constructive nor helpful. So please only hit the reply button if you have any real questions about Sager/Clevo rather than flooding the thread with irrelevant retorts.
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post Oct 29 2008, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(22 @ Oct 29 2008, 09:44 AM)
Whatever floats your boat. I'm not that certain of Sager's ODM, however, for Alienware, I think they have a lot of mixtures of ODMs? Clevo being one of them, Arima being another, uniwill too.
Maybe a SSH server back at home hosted with putty?That would bypass most restrictions set by the University. Anyway, once you're done with those restrictions, how about a couple of screenies with Crysis Warhead and games like that for real performance benchmark? I'm gonna go green with envy soon.
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Alienware dropped Clevo over "cost concerns" a year back. Now they're dealing with Uniwill for their laptops which is part of ECS and Tatung. Sagers are rebranded Clevos but if in doubt, google tongue.gif


QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Oct 29 2008, 05:25 PM)

i don't intent to be hard to u but too bad ur stupid reply and act just get my blood boiled more and more.....
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haha, chill man. We'll just ignore spamming posts like his biggrin.gif
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post Oct 29 2008, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(aral3005 @ Oct 29 2008, 09:28 PM)

-I do know about the xoticpc (order,payment,shipping) but what about the discounts you mentioned earlier in the first page (7%,25% and 3%)?
-I really curious about gaming ability of a laptop,so to make things easy,I can know the level of a laptop by simply benchmarking it with crysis(especially about its graphics configuration)...In my own experience a laptop with 8600m gt (acer 5920) already considered as a gaming laptop since it can play crysis even at low quality settings
-So I hope no more backstab between us after this..If you want to argue something then make it as evident-based argument...not emotion-based argument
-forgive me if my english is not as better as some of you but honestly i really interested if we can share knowledge here

TQ laugh.gif  nod.gif
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the 7% discount is applicable for uni students (just have to show your admission offer) , the other 25% give or take is for being an affiliate with xoticpc, I seldom post about them in lowyat tho. and the 3% is when you pay by bank transfer or money order smile.gif

yeap, and no more shooting each other down tongue.gif

try using tools like 3dmark to test out your laptop specs. It gives a number so it makes it easier to compare with other people who use the program. and don't worry about language here, as long as people can understand thumbup.gif
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post Oct 29 2008, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(aral3005 @ Oct 29 2008, 09:28 PM)

Added on October 29, 2008, 9:49 pm-Sager NP8660 is actually not as dull as some people think
-For WUXGA configuration you can get a really nice black brushed aluminium (may be you have to find good picture of it = googling)
-Corad,why you didnt take the Sager NP5793?Is 17" too big for you?@bcz you want the latest technology (ddr3,centrino2)?
-I would recommend you to take intel turbo memory(ITM) 4gb and a 7200rpm hdd for better gaming ability..
-the new itm2 really make huge impact on the laptop overall performance not as the previous itm
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17 inches is too bulky for me so I went for the smaller 15.4. All the chasis of the np8660 are the same regardless of the screen resolution or specs inside.

Intel Turbo Memory only works on Vista and it dosen't give much of a performance boost. (and it's expensive too since it's actually just flash memory tongue.gif ). I'm planning to upgrade the RAM's on my own later (cheaper laugh.gif ) and the new large capacity hard disks(anything above 320GB) have the same read/write speed even tho they are rated 7200 or 5400RPM icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 29 2008, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Oct 29 2008, 09:58 PM)

@corad..... where is ur 3dmark06 score???? i expect more than 12.5k at least
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It needs me to connect online to see my scores , and the port is blocked cry.gif

I did do it earlier tho (Post #13) with an "ahem" version, it gave me 3dmark06 = 12680 all on default settings. but i'll get a screenshot soon smile.gif
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post Oct 29 2008, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(aral3005 @ Oct 29 2008, 09:28 PM)

-I have been researching about this brand (Sager) and found that XOTICPC is one of the best dealer
-Here is some link which I think it might be useful:
                - http://www.xoticpc.com/ - most of you already know about this right?
                - http://www.killernotebooks.com/ - which I found this website is really made for laptop enthusiast (gamer)

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Sorry missed this part out sweat.gif Yeap, xoticpc is the cheapest way to get a Sager without any compromises in shipping time or quality smile.gif Killernotebooks isn't so popular, but it's run by a guy who posts very frequently on TomsHardware mobility forum.

QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Oct 29 2008, 10:07 PM)
erm i think 7200RPM will be slightly faster compared to 5400rpm... else there isnt any point for it to be still exist...... anyway what manufacturer HDD u have in ur lappy??
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It's a Seagate. Difference with 7200 n 5400 is only noticeable in system startup & program loading times, and a 7200 increases power consumption by 5%
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QUOTE(aral3005 @ Oct 29 2008, 10:39 PM)
-so if i want to buy it from you,how much discount will I get?
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well, if you use the money order(7%) and student discount(3%) , I could give you another 10% which makes the total 20% off the ori price smile.gif I din't mention this discount earlier because it's actually abit tricky as xoticpc only cashes out when the central account has a certain amount of money. So depending on how many sales other affiliates make, it could take quite a while before I can return this money to you.

I used to offer it to my buyers up front, but it got complicated since the wait time is uncertain.

and just to clarify, the amount of comission i get depends on the number of systems sold through my links. usally I get 2-3 out per month so that gives me 10% which I'm happy to pass back to the forumers here biggrin.gif

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post Oct 30 2008, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(aral3005 @ Oct 30 2008, 12:13 AM)
So if the laptop costs $2500,how much actually I have to pay?How can I get the discounts promotion from you? biggrin.gif
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you pay $2000 smile.gif . I'll give you a link to the product you want to buy and that gives me $$ which i'll pass back to you through paypal. Do note that this process is not instantaneous, so it may take awhile before you get that 10% back. You are still dealing straight with xoticpc, and my role is only as the referer. So you wont have to give me any information apart from the account I'm returning the money to.

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p/s: this is between the thread surfers here alright ? tongue.gif Affiliates aren't suppose to offer "cash back" offers.

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post Oct 31 2008, 05:38 AM

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QUOTE(aral3005 @ Oct 30 2008, 11:52 PM)
-what game are u playing now corad?
-I really want to know the graphic settings for the new Crysis Warhead  shocking.gif  ...hope u play it also...haha
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I'm currently playing Assasin's Creed, Far Cry 2, COD 4 and World In Conflict. Haven't install many games yet because I'm still waiting for the Windows Vista I bought to arrive ... I play crysis on high with 4xAA . Have yet to play Warhead since the reviews werent so good, and I din't particularly enjoy the alien part of crysis.


QUOTE(Noblez @ Oct 31 2008, 12:34 AM)
Ok, I'm a very newbie at laptops and stuff (Actually, I wanted to buy my first laptop this Dec during the PC Fair but I keep hearing that PC Fair quality is not good and stuff like that?) ... But ok... Sager NP8660, consider that it has no warranty and from what I checked, it starts at $1682 and after upgrading to your specs... (well... mine includes the Vista Premium, tho I want to 32-bit), it went up to $2299 without discount, can we compare it to the dv5 from HP?

Coz was planning to buy that dv5 (can you guys recommend a model, so far I only have here is dv5-1039TX ~RM5999 tho US has the dv5t or sumthin).
Well, actually, mine is not for overclocking(I dun even know what that REALLY means) and hardcore games like Crysis, but I do play the occasional C&C RTS (tho, now, I'm just interested in Red Alert 3 and I like to set graphics to medium at least) but its just for casual gaming- stress relief. Is it worth it, coz it'll b a first laptop and the dv5 sound good enuf already plus it has some warranty that my folks will b better off knowing (the whole safe than sorry)  Coz its really my first time for a laptop and its not really purposefully FOR gaming, just casual... More for portability and surfing net and reliablility. I have a desktop for that (Gaming concentrate, tho not really like you guys)...

What is your (all) opinions?
Thx in advance, and if I made an off-topic reply, pls do tell me, coz I'm not really that well versed with forums and stuff (only recently been active)...

PS. if you dun mind, is PC Fair a good place to buy laptops/computers? And will they introduce new things to us? Jus thought I'd take a shot and ask...
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If you're not looking for high end gamming, I would suggest going for the main stream laptops smile.gif And not that the Sager dosen't have warrenty, you just have to send it back to the US to claim rclxub.gif the dv5 fits in well as a all rounder.

PC Fair can be a good place to buy laptops if you watch out for a few things. 1) Make sure they give you a new unit ie: straight from the box, not those they leave out to display.
2) Try to get as much freebies as you can. that's what pc fairs are for laugh.gif mouse , headphone, extended warrenty etc..

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post Nov 1 2008, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(Noblez @ Oct 31 2008, 04:09 PM)
Heh... thx for the tip and aso to the vincentlaw... But its not really pure gaming, just half-half... I'll decide on pc fair maybe... Heh... But claims to US will cost so folks worried abt that and etc... U know their kind, more on the security...
But dv5 is IMO an all rounder like corad said, heh, but I'll try and look for toshiba and others... But dell (online) turned me off with their lower then HP end graphics and no Centrino 2. Heh...
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toshiba's expensive. HP gives good quality for low price smile.gif

QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Oct 31 2008, 06:48 PM)

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Nov 1 2008, 12:09 AM)
*cough cough* hopefully we can get this forum organised soon so that discussions like this can have their own threads nod.gif
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Nov 1 2008, 01:34 AM)
LOL.. poor corad,,his Sager thread become Laptop recomendation thread already haha.. btw if i want to go for the sager, i need someone to help me buy lor..haha
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they can ship to malaysia de smile.gif

QUOTE(mildrawde @ Nov 1 2008, 01:49 AM)
toshiba now is already cheaper thant HP...
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i was comparing laptops of the same specs. toshiba still comes out being more expensive.
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post Nov 30 2008, 11:54 PM

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FYI , the price of this baby has gone down !! wub.gif wub.gif

if you head over to xoticpc and configure it. You'll see that the total price for


Intel P9500 2.53 GHz
nVidia 9800 GTS 512 DDR3
4GB DDR 3
500GB 5400RPM

for RM 6.5k including shipping without any of the fancy discounts !! biggrin.gif



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post Dec 1 2008, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Dec 1 2008, 12:51 AM)
Man,thats a really good deal.I also want one.

9800 with a 2.5 CPU.Enough for me to run DoW2 and SC2 in glory!
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yeap, seems like they changed the graphic card from a 9800GT to a GTS tho. But it's still a good deal. *i've place an order for another biggrin.gif *

QUOTE(NicJolin @ Dec 1 2008, 01:15 AM)
omg that's a DDR3 ram
I barely could find any models with DDR3 ram in M'sia some more its a 9800GTS + P9500 ~!!! What a great deal...too bad if you wanna claim warranty , gotta send it back sad.gif
How much is the courier going to cost if you're shipping back to US? RM1k?
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well, i've had mine for a few months now. no problems at all thumbup.gif no over heating / forced shutdown even with OC rclxms.gif

it takes USD 233 to get it here, so i guess it's the same going back. (UPS 1st Class International Priority) takes 3-5 days .
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post Dec 1 2008, 02:20 AM

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And I can give a further 10% off to any lowyat-ian buying through me icon_rolleyes.gif

You still deal straight with xoticpc, and no money goes through me. Just that I'll get commission from the sell and I'll gladly pass it back to the people here. smile.gif

Hope to see this community grow bigger !
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Dec 1 2008, 11:18 AM)
It's a very good deal from the beginning.

Im just concern about the warranty.Thats all.

I think i might get one next year,when my laptop become fully obsolete.
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deal ends 6th of Jan 2009. Instant discount of USD 400 now smile.gif (RM 1,452.33) Probably clearing up for another killer comming in late dec brows.gif
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QUOTE(mahcyen @ Dec 1 2008, 11:29 AM)
@corad

how do i get the instant USD300 discount as mentioned in the website ? i can't find any clues about it, just can see the ad.
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It's already added into the price, so all you have to do is select the components you want icon_rolleyes.gif

You can see that the RAM and HDD prices have gone down (only takes you USD 75 to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB DDR3 , and 250GB to 500GB thumbup.gif ) and also they replaced the 9800GT with a GTS which is slightly cheaper.

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Dec 1 2008, 12:40 PM)
Still,how about the warranty?

How good is the workmanship? Does it break down often?
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I've used a dell , hp and toshiba before. But for me, the sager's build still comes out as tops,they really don't skim on anything rclxms.gif nothing wrong so far, but with tech stuff it's always hard to tell till anything happens.

QUOTE(Bankster @ Dec 1 2008, 02:15 PM)
WOah!! and i thought im the only that have a Clevo notebook in MALAYSIA!! where do you order yours from??? i got mine from xoticpc.com!!  rclxms.gif

But mine is the NP5796 the 17" type.

here's some spec:

Resolution: 17" WUXGA "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1920x1200)

Graphic Card: 1,024MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce 9800M GTX DDR3

RAM: 4GB DDR3 1066mhz.

HARD DISK: 500GB 5,400RPM

Processor: Intel® P9500 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.53GHz w/6MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt

Optical DRIVE: Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti 8X DVDRW Drive.

Picture are in the attachment.

I wasnt able to get the BLu-ray optical drive because it was in back order so i just go with the default optical drive. damn! But hey, at least i got the 9800m GTX. I got this notebook for 1 month and the cost is around $2,606.

Nice Spec BTW!!! Its a good thing u got the BLu-Ray optical drive.I really want it  tongue.gif

I was kinda surprise that Clevo is not here in Malaysia when i came back here, i ask one of the reseller "do you guys have any clevo" and they like "hmm, what is that? a new motherboard?" lolz

the only thing that are good enough for gaming is the ASUS G70 with the SLI 8700m GT if im not mistaken.... it seems ASUS are dominating the Gaming Laptop market in malaysia LOLz  biggrin.gif
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haha , another Sager user !!

woot ! so far i trust no problems with ur laptop ? biggrin.gif

i got mine from xoticpc too .

A real pity that there's no clevo distributor here in M'sia ...
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I paid Rm6.1k for the whole thing smile.gif

haha, got blueray drive but hardly use also >< you have the 9800GTX tho notworthy.gif

No problems so far (and hopefully not for a long time to come laugh.gif ) waited 3 days for the lappie to arrive ..


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QUOTE(Bankster @ Dec 3 2008, 08:03 PM)
woah 3 days??? i got mine like a week, but i ordered through my friends so i probably arrive at his place in the us within 3 days and then send it to me... lolz!!

so what games have you been trying on it?? Far Cry 2 how does it play??
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Far Cry 2 , NFS: Undercover , Assassins Creed ,COD5 , GRID ... haha , and a few more. So far everything is flawless (as expected tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif ) Except that farcry 2 gives and error that my graphic drivers are too old but it still loads the game so no problems. Do you know where we can flash our bios ?

QUOTE(lencent @ Dec 3 2008, 11:54 PM)
wow@@" this is really an insane laptop. i using a dell precision 17" laptop and it is killing me with its weight >< hope u post it earlier before i buy. i definitely will get this one rather than the one i using now ><
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you can still go get a sager brows.gif
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