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post Jun 3 2009, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(dlwl @ Jun 3 2009, 10:22 AM)
how about the freeagent usb dock? anyone knows where to find that?
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It is around rm85 at lowyat plaza.
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post Jun 4 2009, 11:08 AM

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lookin for a 120 GB HDD..well..i need it for my assignment swt..soo if can list down the feature and infos...thx..>.<
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post Jun 4 2009, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jun 3 2009, 11:08 PM)
I have posted my requirements at 'post #1030'
Any recomendation?
HDD also need firmware? I read somewhere Freeagent might have some firmware problem
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In term of portable, what do you mean? That you want to bring around places all the time or just on occasion?

If you wanted something that is value for money and in the range of 500 - 1TB, then you only have 3.5" External HDD as your choice. I got myself the WD MyBook 1TB for about RM390+ which i feel is quite good. It should cost lesser i believe at the moment. I believe most, if not all are roughly the same as well.

However, do keep in mind if you wanted to bring it to places all the time, then 3.5" can be more troublesome. As you will need to bring along a bigger HDD (as compared to 2.5") as well as a power cord. And the WD MyBook comes with a glossy finish as well which might get scratched if you move around alot. I think there is a matt finish version by WD as well on the MyBook series but should cost slightly more.

Anyway, if you wanted portability, i still recommend 2.5" ones as you have a smaller package, and minus the power cord. But of course, price for 500GB 2.5" is roughly around the same as the 1TB 3.5" i believe at the moment. So, your choice here. In regards to the brands, i still think all of them are roughly the same. Just stick with those branded ones like WD, Seagate, Buffalo etc.
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jun 4 2009, 11:30 AM)
In term of portable, what do you mean? That you want to bring around places all the time or just on occasion?

If you wanted something that is value for money and in the range of 500 - 1TB, then you only have 3.5" External HDD as your choice. I got myself the WD MyBook 1TB for about RM390+ which i feel is quite good. It should cost lesser i believe at the moment. I believe most, if not all are roughly the same as well.

However, do keep in mind if you wanted to bring it to places all the time, then 3.5" can be more troublesome. As you will need to bring along a bigger HDD (as compared to 2.5") as well as a power cord. And the WD MyBook comes with a glossy finish as well which might get scratched if you move around alot. I think there is a matt finish version by WD as well on the MyBook series but should cost slightly more.

Anyway, if you wanted portability, i still recommend 2.5" ones as you have a smaller package, and minus the power cord. But of course, price for 500GB 2.5" is roughly around the same as the 1TB 3.5" i believe at the moment. So, your choice here. In regards to the brands, i still think all of them are roughly the same. Just stick with those branded ones like WD, Seagate, Buffalo etc.
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Thanks for the reply. I've bought a Buffalo Mini Station with 'Turbo USB' feature.
Reasons being:-
1) Higher transfer speed with the bundle software.
2) Higher shock resistant with the shock resistant chasis.
3) Wrap arpund usb for easier carrying around.
RM 375 for 500GB
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Well, the thing about those "Faster USB speed" is that you need to install a certain bundle software which i am not really fond off tongue.gif But still, good purchase there smile.gif
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Hello juzz wanna ask ler. In term of performance, between Seagate Barracuda and western Digital black edition which 1 faster eh?
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QUOTE(pergilahsayang @ Jun 8 2009, 05:47 PM)
Hello juzz wanna ask ler. In term of performance, between Seagate Barracuda and western Digital black edition which 1 faster eh?
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WD black faster than it.
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I am considering to buy a external HDD. Which one is better?

1.buffalo ministation lite
2.WD passport
3.seagate freeagent
4.transcend storejet
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I'm not sure about the other three, but the Seagate Freeagent 250GB is *very fast*. It reads at about 35MB/s, which is impressive for a USB hard disk.
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how to make sure that it's that fast?
as long as if we check our motherboard support USB 2.0 then definitely fast?

QUOTE(wKkaY @ Jun 9 2009, 02:36 PM)
I'm not sure about the other three, but the Seagate Freeagent 250GB is *very fast*. It reads at about 35MB/s, which is impressive for a USB hard disk.
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Samsung F1 faster than WD Black Caviar ??
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Hye Guys. want your opinion on hdd i want to buy. I read reviews that WD green is using only low consumption on power so good to save energy..n..

1- Is WD green 5400rpm 1tb is sufficient enough to store and watch movies/anime?

2- Any side effect if using green WD for running OS / heavy games?
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post Jun 11 2009, 12:48 AM

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I'm currently using WD green 640GB as my primary OS partition, so far so good, no major signs of slowdown whatsoever. maybe there's that slight difference compared to the WD blue or black version, but i doubt you'll really notice it.

As for storing movies/anime, it should do fine smile.gif
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Jun 9 2009, 02:36 PM)
I'm not sure about the other three, but the Seagate Freeagent 250GB is *very fast*. It reads at about 35MB/s, which is impressive for a USB hard disk.
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How about ur write performance? mine is just 18mb/s write. wink.gif
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jun 12 2009, 11:01 PM)
How about ur write performance? mine is just 18mb/s write.  wink.gif
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It isn't with me anymore so I'm unable to test sad.gif
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I just bought a transcend storejet 320GB portable hard drive but when i check the capacity after plugged in to my pc it only states 298GB.

Is this normal? where are the balance capacity?
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QUOTE(Ska8kidz @ Jun 11 2009, 12:30 AM)
Hye Guys. want your opinion on hdd i want to buy. I read reviews that WD green is using only low consumption on power so good to save energy..n..

1- Is WD green 5400rpm 1tb is sufficient enough to store and watch movies/anime?

2- Any side effect if using green WD for running OS / heavy games?
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Should be fine. I'm using 6x 1TB WD Caviar Green (most as data drives for audio/video storage, one as a OS drive) - no issues with it at all. My rigs run 24/7 folding.

QUOTE(blur_mak @ Jun 14 2009, 09:25 PM)
I just bought a transcend storejet 320GB portable hard drive but when i check the capacity after plugged in to my pc it only states 298GB.

Is this normal? where are the balance capacity?
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Yes that's normal. It's all a matter of how you define 1MB as. HD manufacturers define 1GB = 1000MB, and 1MB = 1000KB, etc.. but operating systems like Windows use a different definition 1TB = 1024GB, 1GB = 1024MB (because computers are essentially binary machines, everything has to be a power of 2). In addition, once a disk is formatted, some space will be reserved for the OS to use.

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Capacity measurements

Raw unformatted capacity of a hard disk drive is usually quoted with SI prefixes (metric system prefixes), incrementing by powers of 1000; today that usually means Gigabytes (GB) and Terabytes(TB). This is conventional for data speeds and memory sizes which are not inherently manufactured in power of two sizes, as RAM and Flash memory are. Hard disks by contrast have no inherent binary size as capacity is determined by number of heads, tracks and sectors.

This can cause some confusion because some operating systems may report the formatted capacity of a hard drive using binary prefix units which increment by powers of 1024; today that would be Gibibytes (GiB) and Tebibytes (TiB). To make matters more confusing, these reports may be mislabeled as GB and TB rather than GiB and TiB.
A one Terabyte (1 TB) disk drive would be expected to hold around 1 trillion bytes (1,000,000,000,000) or 1000 GB; and indeed most 1 TB hard drives will contain slightly more than this number. However some Operating System utilities would report this correctly as around 931 GiB or 953,674 MiB, although the report might be incorrectly displayed as 931 GB or 953,674 MB, using the wrong labels. (The actual number for a formatted capacity will be somewhat smaller still, depending on the file system). The following are all correct, if possibly confusing, ways of reporting one Terabyte.

SI prefixs (Hard Drive) equivalent Binary prefixes (OS) equivalent
1 TB (Terabytes) 1 * (1000 * 1000 * 1000 * 1000) 0.9095 TiB (Tebibytes) 0.9095 * (1024 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024)
1000 GB (Gigabytes) 1000 * (1000 * 1000 * 1000) 931.3 GiB (Gibibytes) 931.3 * (1024 * 1024 * 1024)
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post Jun 15 2009, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(Traveler @ Jun 14 2009, 11:06 PM)
Should be fine. I'm using 6x 1TB WD Caviar Green (most as data drives for audio/video storage, one as a OS drive) - no issues with it at all. My rigs run 24/7 folding.
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I used to participate in distributed computing efforts and I doubt that such a project like Folding@home would use the hard disk extensively enough for it to be a significant performance factor. As long as your processors are busy, you don't have a bottleneck problem.

The 1 TB 32 MB cache Caviar Green is much faster than older drives, because its 5,400 RPM handicap is eliminated by much higher data density. And even then, you only need 1 Mbit/s to 8 Mbit/s bandwidth speeds to watch anime or HD videos, whereas most drives are capable of delivering 240 to 800 Mbit/s. External USB 2.0 drives are bottlenecked to about 240 Mbit/s. As you can see, there is a huge margin for error. I wouldn't worry about performance for video, picture and audio storage.

Regarding performance for everything else, like gaming or OS, higher performing hard disks do have a statistical advantage. But you are likely to forget the performance difference between a 1 TB Caviar Green and a 1 TB Caviar Black in daily use.

Now, for an extra RM 50 to RM 60, the 1 TB Caviar Black does have advantages like longer warranty (5 years instead of 3) and better average performance. But there's a problem with long warranties. I recently sent RMA my nearly 3 year old 250 GB WD, but I got back a Seagate 250 GB because they no longer have 250 GB WDs in stock. I was hoping for an upgrade to a 320 GB WD, but oh well.

In my opinion, both the Green and the Black are viable choices so I would choose according to my preference, which is the Green for me.

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How do we actually detects whether a HDD is problematic or not? Is the WD Diagnostic Tool reliable?
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Samsung F1 Spinpoint 1TB and 1.5TB hdd - anyone using these hdds? any comments?

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