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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V7<<,, The Journey Continues Here!

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post Oct 3 2008, 12:43 AM, updated 17y ago

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PROUD P4 478 USERS
Pentium 4 'C' Northwood/Gallatin (30cappers)/Pentium 4-M 800FSB HT

1) siauann - 2.8C @ 3.71 | Abit IC7-G | Corsair XMS XPERT ddr530 | Leadtek 6600GT
2) zeustronic - 2.8C @ 3.3 | Asus P4S800 | A-Data ddr400 512mb*2 | Palit Radeon X800
3) d3x - 2.8C @ 3.08 | Asus P4P800 Deluxe | Hynix ddr400 512mb*2 | Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro
4) kucingfight - 2.8C @ 3.8 | Abit AI7 | Infeneon CE5 ECC ddr400 1gb*2 | Galaxy 6600
5) KahLooN - 2.6C @ 3.25 | Abit AI7 | Team Xtreme 512mb x 2 | HIS x1950pro AGP
6) evilnickwong - 2.4C @ 3.0 | Asus P4P800-E Deluxe | A-Data Vitesta ddr500 512mb*2 | Grandmars 6600GT
7) raymond5105 - 2.8C @ 3.4 | Asus P4P800-X | Hynix BT-J ddr400 256mb*4 | Leadtek FX5900
7) raymond5105 - 3.2C @ 3.68 | Abit IC7-G | Kingston Hynix BT-D43 ddr400 512mb*2 | Gecube 9550XT
8) saiaha - 3.06C @ 3.24 | MSI Neo 2 | OCZ ddr400 512mb*2 | GeCube Radeon 9600XT
9) mulut99 - 3.4GHz Extreme Edition @ stock | P4P800SE | Mushkin Level2 DDR434 512MB X 4 | GeForce XFX 7900GS
10) toch3 - 2.4C @ stock | MSI P4M800 | Kingston ddr400 512+Apacer ddr400 512mb*2 | Gigabyte Radeon 9550
11) enter - 3.2C @ stock | Intel D865GBF | Kingston ddr400 256mb*4 | ATI Radeon 9550
12) choongkeat - 2.8C @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Corsair DDR400 512MB*2 | Sapphire ATI Radeon X1950Pro 512MB DDR3
13) Nostalgia - 2.8C @ 3.22 | Asus P4P800 | OCZ EL Platinum Rev.2.0 ddr400 512mb*2 | PowerColor Radeon 9800 Pro
14) allenultra - 2.8C @ 3.3 | Abit AI7 | Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb*2 | HIS Radeon 9550
15) glo - 2.8C @ 3.4 | Asus P4C800 Deluxe | Kingston HyperX ddr400 512mb*2 | XFX 7800GS
16) glo - 2.8C @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Geil ddr400 1gb | XFX 6600GT
17) shift - 2.8C @ stock | MSI 848P Neo V | Transcend ddr400 512mb | nVidia FX5200
18) AREA51 - P4-M 2.2 @ 3.12 | Asus P4P800-X | Apacer UCCC ddr520 512mb*2 | Leadtek 6800NU
19) jayhan - 2.6C @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Apacer ddr400 512mb*2 | GeCube Radeon 9550XT
20) allenultra - 2.4C @ stock | Intel D865PERL | Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb*2 | HIS Radeon 9550
21 iori_argami - 3.0C (es) @ stock | Abit AI7 | A-Data Vitesta ddr500 512mb*2 | Gigabyte Radeon 9600XT
22) altie - 2.6C @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Corsair XMS Pro LED ddr400 512mb*2 | Unika Radeon X800XT
22) altie - 2.8C @ stock | MSI 865 Neo2 | Kingston ddr400 512mb*2 | PowerColor Radeon 9800Pro
24) miraged - 2.4C @ 3.24 | Asus P4P800-X | Kingston HyperX ddr400 512mb*2 | ATI Radeon X800GTO
25) tyrion4 - 2.8C @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Corsair XMS ddr400 512mb*2 | ATI Radeon 9800Pro
26) momochi zabuza - 2.4C @ 3.0 | Abit IS7-E | Geil ddr400 512mb*2 | Galaxy Glacier 6800
27) kenling - 2.6C @ 3.2 | MSI 865PE Neo 2-V | Kingston ddr492 512mb*2 | Inno 3D 6600GT
28) almostthere - 2.8C @ 3.22 | Abit IS7 rev. 1.0 | 256Mb Infineon -5b*2 | GeForce FX5200
29) shinjite - 3.0GHz ES | Abit IS7-E | 2GB Aeneon DDR400 | Leadtek NV FX5900XT 128MB
30) fo33il - 2.4c @ stock /color] | [color=blue]Asus P4V8-X | Kingston DDR400 512MB | MSI nvidia Fx5200
31) merzchan - 2.4C | Abit IS7-E | 1.5 GB Kingston HyperX DDR400 RAM | HIS Radeon 9600XT 128MB Turbo Edition
32)edministrator - 3.0C @ 3.3 | Asus P4P800 | APACER 512MB x 4 | 7600GS DDR3
33)kabukiawie - 2.8C @ 3.36 | Asus P4P800-X | Kingmax 512mb *2 | Galaxy 7300GT
34)ryu00717 - 2.8c @ stock | Asus P4P800se | Kingston pc3200 dual 1GB | Sapphire X1650pro DDR3
35)busta_dude - P4 3.2GHz@ stock - ASUS P4P800-X - XFX 7800GS EE
36)carlito - 2.6C@stock | Intel D865PERL | kingston DDR400 512*2 | GeForce FX5200
37)speedguy10 - 2.8C @ stock | MSI 865 Neo2 | Geil DDR400 256mb*2 | MSI FX5200.
38)deale30 - 2.4C @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Kingston ddr400 256mb*2 | Sapphire ATI Radeon 9250
39)bunyani - 3.4C @ stock| MSI 865PE Neo2-V| Kingston Hyper-X ddr400 2Gb | PowerColour Radeon X1650Pro
40)ravewar - 3.2GHz@stock|INtel D865GBF| Kingston XMS 2x512MB| 9600PRO
41)ravewar - 2.4GHz@stock|MSI P4M| Corsair VS DDR400 512MB
42)FunkyRider - Pentium 4 3.0GHz EE @ stock | MSI 945GCM478 | 512x2 Corsair 8000UL DDR2-1000 | ASUS EAX1600XT Silent
43)NtahX - 3.2GHz @ stock | MSI-PM4M | Kingston DDR400 1x2GB | Galaxy GF6600GT
44)Lord_sepulchrave - 3.06GHz @ stock | Asus P4V8X-X | 3 * 512mb Corsair DDR400 | Sapphire HD 2600XT 256MB GDDR3
45)KenjiTSK - 2.8GHz @ stock | Enlight mobo | Corsair DDR400 512MB X2 | ATI RADEON 9250
46)mengwhye - 3.0GHz @ stock | Intel D865PERL | Kingston 2*1GB 400MHz | ATI Radeon HD3850 AGP
47)redscott - 2.8GHz@stock | Abit IC7-MAX3 | Corsair XMS DDR400 4*512mb | Geforce4 MX 440
48)blonely - 3.0GHz@3.45Ghz | Asus P4P800 | A-Data DDR400 2*512Mb | HIS X1650XT 512MB IceQTurbo3
49)duncan880409 -2.8GHz @stock | Biostar P4M900-M4 | 2X 1GB Corsair DDR2 667MHz
50)gto87 - 3.0GHz@stock | Intel 865PERL | ATI HD2600xt | 2GB DDR400

Pentium 4 'B' Northwood 533FSB
1) pengster - 2.4B @ 2.8 | MSI Neo2-V | Kingston ddr400 512mb*2 | Palit6800GS
2) gmail - 2.66B @ 3.2 | Asus P4P800S-X | Kingston ddr333 512mb | Asus MX440
3) QD_buyer - 2.8B @ stock | Asus P4V8X-MX | Corsair XMS ddr400 512mb | Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro
4) wk1168 - 2.66B @ stock | Intel D865PERL | Kingston ddr400 512mb*2 | Asus GeForce 3
5) kramuse - 2.4B @ stock | MSI 645E Max-U SiS645DX | Kingston ddr333 512mb | MSI FX5700
6) rg470 - 2.4B @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Kingston ddr333 512mb*2 | EVGA 7600GS
7) helangkawi - 2.4B @ 3.06 | Aopen AX4SPE-UN | Kingston ddr400 512mb+Apacer ddr400 256mb | GeCube Radeon 9550XT
8)Mooneyes - 2.4 GHz | ASROCK P4VM890 |KINGSTON KVR 512 X2|GALAXY GEFORCE 7300GT
9)kevinwcw - 2.66GHz | Gigabyte GA-81848P-G Mobo | 1gb corsair value ram(512x2) | Galaxy 6600GT
10)l3th9l - 2.4Ghz @ stock | MSI 865PE NEO 2 | Kingston DDR266 256MB x 2 | MSI 256MB FX5600
11)zeipher - 2.4GHz @ 2.7Ghz | Asus P4P800S-X | 1x Kingston DDR333 512MB 1x Apacer DDR333 512MB | MSI GeForce4200 Ti
12)Redundant - 2.4GHz @stock | Intel 845PESV | 2* 512mb Kingston DDR333 | Asus ATI 9550GE 256MB
13)HMMaster - 2.4GHz @ 2.7GHz | MSI 865PE Neo2-PLS | 2x 512mb DDR400 Kingston | xpertvision Geforce 6600
14)astria - 2.4GHz @ 2.75GHz | MSI MS-7031 | 768MB DDR400 |Sapphire X1950GT GDDR3
15)ac_N1 - 2.4GHz @ 3.206Ghz | ASUS P4P800-SE |4*256MB D43 Hynix DDR400 | MSI Radeon 9800PRO @ 9800XT
16)Mr.Crazy - 2.4GHz @ Stock | MSI 845PE Max | 2*512MBKingstom ddr400 | Nvidia GeForce FX5200 128MB
17)AlexLee277 - 2.4Ghz @ stock | Asus P4SGX-MX | Kingston PC3200 512mb | Integrated SiS 926L

Pentium 4 'A' Northwood/Willamette 400FSB

1) hyperyouth_firepower - 2.4A @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Air ddr333 256mb*2 | His Radeon X1300
2) polisdirajasarawak - 1.8A @ stock | Lite-On i845 | Advance Module ddr266 512mb | PowerColor Bravo Radeon 9600Pro
3) hihihehe - 2.8A @ stock | Acer E61ML | Apacer ddr400 512mb+Transcend ddr400 256 | MSI 6600
4)Nemesis181188 1.8GHz/Asus P4P800 Deluxe/2x512mb Kingston/ Powercolor 9600pro
5)randoll - 2.8A @ stock | Asus P4P800 | Kingston 512mb*2 Apacer 256mb*2 | XFX 7600GS
6)takezo88 - 1.7GHz | asrock pmvm800 | corsair 512mb 400 MHz | ABIT 9600 xt
7)dlwl | 2.0 GHz @ stock | Soltek 845G |512MB SD RAM | Biostar 6800XT
8)em0ti0n - 1.5GHz @ stock | Intel D845WN | 384MB SDRAM | Geforce 2 MX400
9)Exa_Bytez -1.6GHz @ stock| ABIT IT-7 Max Rev 2.0 | 2x256MB DDR PC-3200&PC-2100 | GeCube Radeon 9550XT

Pentium 4 'E' Prescott 800FSB HT

1) Mowgli - 3.0E @ 3.75 | Asus P4P800-E Deluxe | Team X-Treem TCCD ddr600 512mb*2 | XFX 6800NU
2) sHawTY - 3.0E @ 4.00 | Asus P4C800-E Deluxe | Kingston ddr534 512mb*2 | ATI Radeon X1300
3) hurricane21 - 3.0E @ stock | Abit AI7 | Kingston HyperX ddr400 256mb*2 | Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro
4) mulut99 - 3.0E @ stock | Asus P4C800 Deluxe | Mushkin Enhance LVL2 ddr440 512mb*2 | nVidia 7800GS
5) ReaperOfSoul - 2.8E @ 3.08 | Asrock P4i65G | Kingston ddr440 512mb*2 | ATI X800GTO
6) tompok82 - 3.0E @ 3.75 | Asus P4C800 Deluxe | Kingston ddr500 512mb*2 | ATI Radeon X1300
7) barry80 - 2.8E @ stock | MSI 865PE PLS | Corsair ddr400 512mb*2+256mb*2 | PoweColor Radeon 9600Pro
8) xinghuei - 3.2E @ stock | DFI PT880ELF | Corsair ddr400 512mb*2 | ATI Radeon 9200SE
9) wk1168 - 3.0E @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Corsair ddr400 512mb*2 | MSI 6600 Diamond
10) SkyDriver - 2.8E @ stock | MSI PM8M-V | Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb*2 | Colorful X700
11) apexi78 - 2.8E @ stock | Abit IC7-G | Corsair XL Pro ddr400 512mb*2 | nVidia 7800GS
12) kcng - 2.8E @ stock | Asus P4P8X | Corsair XMS ddr400 256mb*4 | Leadtek 6600GT
13) Hitman66 - 3.0E @ stock | Gigabyte GA-8I848P-G | Kingston ddr400 512mb*2 | nVidia 6800XT
14) max*lim - 3.0E @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Corsair ddr400 512mb*2 | MSI 6600GT
15) kcng - 2.8E @ stock | Asus P4P8-X | Corsair XMS ddr400 256mb*4 | Leadtek 6600GT
16) kenling - 3.4E @ stock | Abit IS7-E | Kingston D43 ddr400 512mb*2 | BFG 6800Ultra OC
17) alexandros_18th - P4 3.0E @ Stock | Asrock P4i65G | Apacer 512 + Kingston 256 DDR400 | Galaxy 7300GT
18)Fylon - 3.2E @ 4.017 | Asus P4P800SE | Patriot PDP Extreme Performance PC4200 512MB*2 | XFX GeFroce 6800GT
19)sang_karim - 3.0E @ 3.8| Asus P4P800-SE |OCZ Platinum PC3200 512MB x 2 | 128 ATI RADEON 9250 |
20)GCI99 - 3.0E @ 3.22 HT | 2 *1GB Kingston PC3200|P4P800 - Duluxe|6800 GT.
21)khai84siong - 3.0E@stock| ASUS P4P800| Mushkin PC3200 Black lvl 2 2*512MB | XFX 7600GT
22) overclockalbert - 2.8E @ 3.8 | Abit IC7 | Elpida 512X2 | Palit 6800GS
23)axern959 - 3.0E @ stock | MSI PM8M-V | Kingston DDR400 1GB + 256MB | Leadtek Winfast 7600GT
24)herojack41 - 2.8E @ stock | P4P800SE | Kingston DDR400 1024MB | Nvidia Geforce 6200A-Le
25)icp - 3.0E@stock | MSI 865PE Neo2-PS | Kingston DDR400 512*2 | ATI Radeon 9600XT
26)Ryeeson- 3.0 E @ stock | ASUS P4P800 SE |Kingstone DDR400 512mb*4 |XFX6600GT
27)joellim - 2.8E @ 3.3 | ASRock P4i65G | 2 * 512MB KVR |HiS ATi X1650 Pro IceQ
28)sniperz11 - 3.0E @ 3.3 | Asus P4P800-X | Kingston 512Mb x 2 | HIS ATi Radeon x1650xt
29)Tanakwagu_noh - 2.8E @ 3.75 | Asus P4P800 Deluxe | Kingstom ddr400 1GB*4 | Nvidia Geforce 6600
30)bai1101 - 3.0E @ stock | P4p800X | DDR400 1 GB | 6600GT 128MB
31)helangkawi - 3.0GHz @ stock | MSI 875P NEO2 | Kingston Value Ram DDR400 1GB | Nvidia Quadro 4 580XGL
32)helangkawi - 3.0GHz @ stock | Biostar P4M900-M4 | Corsair Value Ram DDR667 2GB | Gigabyte 8800GTS G80
32)stealth89 - 3.00GHz @ Stock | Intel D865PERL | 512MB Kingston DDR400 x4 | WinFast GeForce 7600GT
33) sheeeng - 3.00GHz @ Stock | VIA P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800/CN700 | 512MB DDR333| VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP
34)Jcsy - 3.0GHz@ stock | DFI 865PE | 3072MB RAM | HIS IceQII Radeon X800Pro
35)emy_xvidia - 3.0GHz@ stock | Gigabyte 865G |Kingston Hyper 1 X 1.0GB DDR400 | Gigabyte 7600GT
35)The Silent Killer - 3.0GHz @ stock | Asus P4P800 | Corsair DDR400 512MB X2 | ATI RADEON 9250
36)llutephie - 3.2GHz @ stock | MSI-7104 VIA P4M800 Pro | Kingston 400 2*1GB | ATI Radeon HD3850 AGP
37)redsuns86 - 2.8GHz@ 3.2GHz | DFI 848P-AL | 2 x 1GB Kingston DDR400 | Sapphire HD2600xt
38)e_k1117 - 3.0GHz@ stock |MSI PM8M-V H(MS-7104 v2)| 1.5GB DDR400 | ASUS ati Radeon 9600SE 128MB

Pentium 4 'A' Prescott 533FSB

1) kabukiawie - 2.4A @ 3.0 | Asus P4P800-X | Kingmax ddr400 512mb*2 | MSI Radeon 9800Pro
2) Freak` - 2.4A @ stock | Abit IS7-E | Kingston ddr400 512mb+256mb | Asus Radeon 9200SE
3) iman_210 - 2.4A @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb*2 | XFX 6600GT
4) mr_habuk - 2.4A @ stock | Intel D865PERL | Kingston ddr400 512mb*2 | GeCube Radeon 9550XT
5) nelza_ax - 2.4A @ 3.95 | Abit IS7-EG2 | Kingston DT-D43 ddr400 512mb | MSI 6200
6) ToGo - 2.4A @ 3.0 | Asus P4P800-E Deluxe | Corsair VS ddr400 512mb*2 | Asus Radeon 9600XT
7) swhung - 2.4A @ 2.73 | Gigabyte 8VM533M-RZ | Kingston ddr333 512mb+Hynix ddr266 128mb | PowerColor Radeon 9550
8) apek - 2.4A @ 2.73 | Asus P4P800-X | Kingston ddr400 512mb*2 | GeCube Radeon X1600Pro
9) apek - 2.8A @ stock | Intel D865PERL | Transcend ddr400 512mb*2 | Galaxy 6800NU
10) RokXIII - 2.4A @ 3.0 | MSI i865PE Neo-2 | Corsair ddr400 512mb | Sapphire Radeon 9550PE
11) GameSky - 2.4A @ stock | Asus P4V8X-X | Apacer ddr333 512mb+Kingston ddr333 512mb | ATI Radeon 9200SE
12)0168257061 - 2.4A @ stock |Asus P4VP-MX | 1GB DDR 266 RAM | Gecube 9550 Extreme 256MB DDR2
13)mav910623 - 2.4GHz @ stock | Asrock P4i65G | 512MB Kingston DDR 400 |
14)Mr.Crazy - 2.4GHz @ 2.52GHz | MSI P4MAM-V | Kingstom ddr400 512MB + Apache ddr400 512MB | MSI ATi Radeon 9550 128MB
15)brantz - 2.4GHz@stock | MSI P4MAM-V VIA P4M266A | Kingston 1GB DDR400 | GrandMars ATi Radeon 9550 128MB
16)AlexLee277 - P4 2.4GHz@stock | AsRock P4i65G | DDR400 1.2GB | Sapphire ATI R9550 256MB
17)duncan880409 - 2.4GHz @ stock | Raffles Motherboard | 1.5GB Kingston DDR 400Mhz | ATI Radeon 9250 DDR 128MB


Pentium M Dothan CTP-479

1) cycquest - 750 1.86 @ stock | Asus P4P800-E Deluxe CTP-479 | Apacer ddr400 512mb | eVGA 6800Ultra
2)astria - 725 1.6GHz @ stock | Intel 915GMS Express Chipset | DDR333 2*512MB |Graphic Media Accelerator 900
3) FunkyRider - Celeron-M 340 @ 2.33GHz | ASUS P4P800-E | 512x2 Infineon CT-5 DDR-400 | Gigabyte Radeon 9550


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Added on August 28, 2007, 10:21 am
QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 2 2007, 11:09 PM)
USEFUL INFO FOR P4 478? tongue.gif

Details of your P4 CPU
Check all the P4 siblings n details n type of the cpu at the link above? smile.gif
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Info share from wikipedia.

Added on August 28, 2007, 10:24 am
QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 2 2007, 11:09 PM)
Let's compete against each other for our old skool P4 478 machine...our machine can't compare wif those X2, FX, C2D.... sweat.gif

P4 478 HALL OF FAME [TOP 20]

SUPER PI 1M
01. fylon - 3.2 @4.017GHz- 251MHz @2.5-3-3-8 - 33.532s
02. sang_karim 3.0GHz @3.8GHz - 254MHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 34.875s
03. nelza_ax - 2.4 @ 4.05GHz - 225.5MHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 - 35.641s
04. siauann - 2.8 @ 3.78GHz - 270.2MHz @ 2.5-3-3-6 - 36.64s
05. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68GHz - 230.3MHz @ 3-4-4-8 - 37.592s
06. colinwong89 - 3.0 @ 3.6GHz - 240MHz @ 2.5-4-3-7 - 37.968s
07. tyrion4 - 2.8 @ 3.78GHz - 216.4MHz @ 2.5-4-4-8 -? 39.641s
08. KahLooN - 2.6 @ 3.38GHz - 225MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 39.953s
09. kabukiawie - 2.8 @ 3.29GHz - 235MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 40.516s
10.blonely - 3.0@3.45GHz - 230MHz@ 3-3-3-8 41.547s
11. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23GHz - 168MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 41.938s
12. kabukiawie - 2.8@3.361GHz 240MHz- 2.5-3-3-7 - 42.672s
13. khai84siong 3.0GHz@3.307GHz@ 220MHz @ 43s
14. ReaperOfSoul 2.8GHz @3.08GHz 220MHz @45.485s
15. choongkeat? 2.8GHz@stock - 200MHz - 2.5-3-3-8 -53.781s
16. pengster 2.4@2.7GHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 @ 150MHz - 56s

. NORTHWOOD
. PRESSCOTT

SiSANDRA LITE 2007
. PROCESSOR ARITHMETIC
01. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68GHz - 9486
02. sang_karim- 3.0 @ 3.8GHz -9173
03. fylon - 3.0@ 3.6GHz - 9108
04. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23GHz - 7262
05. choongkeat - 2.8@stock - 7149
06. kabukiawie - 2.4 @ 3.02GHz - 6780
07. pengster - 2.4@ 2.7GHz -5686

. MEMORY BANDWIDTH
01. sang_karim - 3.0@3.8GHz @254MHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 - 5985
02. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68GHz @ 230MHz @ 3-4-4-8 - 5525
03. fylon - 3.2@3.75GHz @235MHz - 2.5-3-3-6 5500
04. kabukiawie - 2.8 @ 3.36GHz? @ 240MHz @ 2-3-3-6 - 4974
05. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23GHz @ 225MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 4132
06. choongkeat- 2.8GHz @ stock @ 200MHz @ 2.5-3-3-8 - 3690
07. pengster - 2.4 - 2.7GHz @150MHz @ - 3247

. NORTHWOOD
. PRESSCOTT
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P4 478/479 benchies.
Link to V2 thread...
Link to V3 thread...
Link to V4 thread...
Link to V5 thread...
Link to V6 thread...

This post has been edited by raymond5105: May 5 2009, 09:56 AM
dlwl
post Oct 3 2008, 01:13 AM

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woohooo...first to post in v7 thread! laugh.giflaugh.gif
congrats congrats on the opening of v7! rclxms.gif
hope this thread can live on, as socket 478 lives on in the midst of all the new tech..tongue.gif
btw, ray, can please update my spec from 6200 to Biostar 6800XT 128MB DDR2..

thank you wink.gif

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barry80
post Oct 3 2008, 01:34 AM

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gosh! another V again ....erm....my final upgraded rig haven't update yet ?
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post Oct 3 2008, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(dlwl @ Oct 3 2008, 01:13 AM)
woohooo...first to post in v7 thread! laugh.giflaugh.gif
congrats congrats on the opening of v7! rclxms.gif
hope this thread can live on, as socket 478 lives on in the midst of all the new tech..tongue.gif
btw, ray, can please update my spec from 6200 to Biostar 6800XT 128MB DDR2..

thank you wink.gif
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QUOTE(barry80 @ Oct 3 2008, 01:34 AM)
gosh! another V again ....erm....my final upgraded rig haven't update yet ?
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What's your final rig??
em0ti0n
post Oct 3 2008, 06:35 AM

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Hail to P4...
i wonder if mine is listed on the list...
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post Oct 3 2008, 07:55 AM

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hehee...new thread.....reporting in here sir.

hmm...just wondering aaa....the current list...issit the latest, and still using P4? any of the guys jumped ship?

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post Oct 3 2008, 08:02 AM

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i think its not the latest la...
and i still use my P4 at home only.. smile.gif
at college use amd tongue.gif
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post Oct 3 2008, 08:40 AM

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Haha.. V7 finally come. thumbup.gif Was wander should i put my office work station rigs up or not. tongue.gif
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post Oct 3 2008, 09:30 AM

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Yes!! V7 !!

Wish all ur rigs will survive through this thread thumbup.gif
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post Oct 3 2008, 09:31 AM

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another new chapter for the s478 loyal supporters. what's up?

me thinking of to install or not to install Vista on my rig, lol...
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post Oct 3 2008, 09:32 AM

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LOL! Cant resist Vista's temptation?
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another new chapter for the s478 loyal supporters. what's up?

me thinking of to install or not to install Vista on my rig, lol...
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Haha.. As if edmin move to vista, he sure will tweak the system kaw kaw one.. Sure lotsa services, unwanted thing been removed. whistling.gif
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vista simple version if not, damn slow to load...
as for me who use SDRAM, load xp still takes time sweat.gif doh.gif
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Screw vista doh.gif Wondering would vienna works on our rigs hmm.gif
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fylon u know me very well, ya? lol..

actually for a 2GB ram rig, Vista on day to day usage would be no problem at all, sure smooth. my main concern in 3D applications performance.

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vista simple version if not, damn slow to load...
as for me who use SDRAM, load xp still takes time  sweat.gif  doh.gif
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i think u mean vista home basic edition? well. in my experience, the interface feels slower without aero 3D rclxub.gif

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Ehehe.. Adalah! Actually i have the idea of moving to vista as well. But my main concern is torrent downloading and vista is having problem with the TCP/IP thingy. Especially the x64 version where will caused BSOD if the TCP/IP been patched.

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fylon u know me very well, ya? lol..

actually for a 2GB ram rig, Vista on day to day usage would be no problem at all, sure smooth. my main concern in 3D applications performance.
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fylon, saw a guy selling 4x2gb DDR2 667 in garage sales for RM300 only! erm, no need 2 patch the TCP/IP connections, i m sure u can torrent fine without patching.

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Well, as for me there was no plbm to run daily usage from surfing to watching video. But when play online games, the performance is  sweat.gif
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bingooo.... my last installation of a tweaked vista gave me 60fps in CSS benchmark compared to 100fps in xp, same rig, same driver revision. not only benchmarks, but does impact in-game performance.

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edmin, Hah.. Yea.. Saw that thread but ain't sure it is DIMM or SODIMM couse the pitca dont really clear. hmm.gif Owh? Really? lust.gif But no time to format pc as rushing for assignment. Maybe wait i go my summer break than have a try on vista. thumbup.gif

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fylon, saw a guy selling 4x2gb DDR2 667 in garage sales for RM300 only! erm, no need 2 patch the TCP/IP connections, i m sure u can torrent fine without patching.

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bingooo.... my last installation of a tweaked vista gave me 60fps in CSS benchmark compared to 100fps in xp, same rig, same driver revision. not only benchmarks, but does impact in-game performance.
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Guess vista is not designed for s478 sad.gif
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edmin, Hah.. Yea.. Saw that thread but ain't sure it is DIMM or SODIMM couse the pitca dont really clear. hmm.gif Owh? Really? lust.gif But no time to format pc as rushing for assignment. Maybe wait i go my summer break than have a try on vista. thumbup.gif
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confirm is DIMM thumbup.gif even though i dun have a DDR2 rig, i feel like sapu the RAMs already! doh.gif

yes, no need patch, torrent works fine.

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Guess vista is not designed for s478 sad.gif
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not really, i believe it might be the drivers issues (optimised for 8 and 9 series instead of older cards) because surfing and doing other tasks is fast and snappy. I like... thumbup.gif

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Maybe a trimp down version of vista will work fine for S478. Where lotsa unwanted thingy been killed and took away.

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LOL!! Sapu all and put at drawer wait until u move to Quad then use it? biggrin.gif Im having 3GB now, is enough for my task. And somemore, my mobo slot is full. x Unless i on my mind for 6GB. lust.gif 2*2GB + 2*1GB!!

AGP Monsta hang for sell: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/807101/+0&#entry20348241 lust.gif

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talking abt Vista....my friend's bro just passed a copy of Vista Ultimate *ehem* version last nite....it's gonna go into my C2D rig...hehe...damn XP pro can't fully utilize my rams.... doh.gif

so s478 cannot put in vista, judging frm recent postings here huh? unsure.gif



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Maybe it's directX problem, try use DirectX 9.0L...
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Well.. IMHO if without gaming, vista is a good way to go. Atleast feel refresh with the new aero interface.
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fylon u know me very well, ya? lol..

actually for a 2GB ram rig, Vista on day to day usage would be no problem at all, sure smooth. my main concern in 3D applications performance.

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i think u mean vista home basic edition? well. in my experience, the interface feels slower without aero 3D  rclxub.gif
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doh.gif without aero 3d = slower... then with aero 3d = slowest sweat.gif

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then use win98 only la  fast and for works only 


Win95 even more stable. I have the original CD, interested? brows.gif

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Maybe it's directX problem, try use DirectX 9.0L...
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@ravewar
s478 can be installed with vista provided your hardware meets the requirement. like i said previously, doing daily tasks in vista with s478 is smooth, just some minor hiccups in 3D applications (lower framerates). I'll do a new test and report back 2 u guys soon when I have the time. Hopefully nvidia's latest vista drivers improved... some basic info of my rig: P4 3.0GHz HT, P4P800, 2GB DDR400, Nvidia 7600GT 256MB, Xfi Extrememusic. nod.gif
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doh.gif  without aero 3d = slower... then with aero 3d = slowest  sweat.gif

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QUOTE(em0ti0n @ Oct 3 2008, 10:09 AM)
doh.gif  without aero 3d = slower... then with aero 3d = slowest  sweat.gif

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bro, if your hardware is up to date, the aero 3D interface flies.... sweat.gif

when i say that the non aero vista interface is slow, i meant that it is less responsive compared to aero 3D on a capable machine.

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Win95 even more stable. I have the original CD, interested?  brows.gif
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Haha.. Whats the point of w98 and w95 man? Where u gain speedy OS but u can do nothing with it. doh.gif Recently game / apps are not supported.

Anyhow, it is just unoptimized driver for old sch cards like edmin mentioned in previous. So far those new card 8/9 series are doing quite well in gaming with vista. Eve now, benchies in made on vista machine already.
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not DirectX problem for sure  doh.gif

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s478 can be installed with vista provided your hardware meets the requirement. like i said previously, doing daily tasks in vista with s478 is smooth, just some minor hiccups in 3D applications (lower framerates). I'll do a new test and report back 2 u guys soon when I have the time. Hopefully nvidia's latest vista drivers improved... some basic info of my rig: P4 3.0GHz HT, P4P800, 2GB DDR400, Nvidia 7600GT 256MB, Xfi Extrememusic.  nod.gif
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my Rig#2 only have 1GB of rams..... doh.gif ... hmm.gif mebbe better stay with XP first, before doing anything drastic....

I'll prolly usik my C2D first.... brows.gif
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Haha.. Whats the point of w98 and w95 man? Where u gain speedy OS but u can do nothing with it. doh.gif Recently game / apps are not supported.

Anyhow, it is just unoptimized driver for old sch cards like edmin mentioned in previous. So far those new card 8/9 series are doing quite well in gaming with vista. Eve now, benchies in made on vista machine already.
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Add my rigs into the list too pls tongue.gif
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Boss,added you in the list already.
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It WAS stable when i run it on my Pentium mmx rigs tongue.gif
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Oh man,why go for Win 95 or Win 98 ? Not user friendly in terms of drivers and memory allocation is lausy for both OS. sweat.gif
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the good old days  rclxms.gif  slap in a 3dfx Voodoo FTW
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Oh man,why go for Win 95 or Win 98 ? Not user friendly in terms of drivers and memory allocation is lausy for both OS. sweat.gif
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if these guys really need RAW speed, i suggest use nlite to strip bare and rape winxp installation files, sure ganas nak mampus!!! laugh.gif
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They are going backward now. tongue.gif Dont bother.. Hahahaha! Later u will see their rigs run on w98/95 or even later go for NT. laugh.gif
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@Ray
They are going backward now. tongue.gif Dont bother.. Hahahaha! Later u will see their rigs run on w98/95 or even later go for NT. laugh.gif
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a sad case for p4 users... the p4 rigs will be underutilised...hehe sweat.gif

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Those voodoo really cost me a bunch back then shakehead.gif
Voodoo platinum 32MB cost me RM1300 doh.gif
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muahaha...Voodoo2 SLI, me like it a lot... me love-love that era! rclxm9.gif cheers.gif

Anyone can sponsor me any Voodoo PCI cards for me to test drive on my p4 rig? I want to run Glide... 10+years ago, Glide pwns Direct3D and OpenGL bruce.gif

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They are going backward now. tongue.gif Dont bother.. Hahahaha! Later u will see their rigs run on w98/95 or even later go for NT. laugh.gif
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Don't worry,i won't go for both OS.Too old already. sweat.gif

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a sad case for p4 users... the p4 rigs will be underutilised...hehe  sweat.gif

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muahaha...Voodoo2 SLI, me like it a lot... me love-love that era!  rclxm9.gif  cheers.gif

Anyone can sponsor me any Voodoo PCI cards for me to test drive on my p4 rig?
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Yup,agree with you.Don't ever try this at home. tongue.gif
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Sounds everyone is walking backward now. tongue.gif PCI cards, 10+ years apps and all been dig out now. laugh.gif
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Sounds everyone is walking backward now. tongue.gif PCI cards, 10+ years apps and all been dig out now. laugh.gif
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show how old i m. walking down memory lane doh.gif

anyway, fylon, what's new with u & where r u? tongue.gif

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Haha... Not really old la. We are almost the same range what. But ur older by a *LITTLE* bit. tongue.gif

O/T: Well.. Im still at kuching now. Doing distance learning while working lo. Currently doing my MCP training @ iFCA and will end the training by Mid of Nov. Meanwhile looking for work as well. Had applied to SAINS and WD, hope can hit either one. smile.gif

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Haha... Not really old la. We are almost the same range what. But ur older by a *LITTLE* bit. tongue.gif

O/T: Well.. Im still at kuching now. Doing distance learning while working lo. Currently doing my MCP training @ iFCA and will end the training by Mid of Nov. Meanwhile looking for work as well. Had applied to SAINS and WD, hope can hit either one. smile.gif
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Win95 even more stable. I have the original CD, interested?  brows.gif
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Hahaha! Ah chai ah? Sit somwhere nearby me thou. He's a programmer right? laugh.gif Dint know that he was ur cuz.
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Hahaha! Ah chai ah? Sit somwhere nearby me thou. He's a programmer right? laugh.gif Dint know that he was ur cuz.
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yap, too many chai in the family, i call him ah boon...hahaha...

anyway, hope dell mini 9 launch fast fast with low low price... thumbup.gif intel atom performance is similar to p4 with low power consumption...
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yap, too many chai in the family, i call him ah boon...hahaha...

anyway, hope dell mini 9 launch fast fast with low low price...  thumbup.gif  intel atom performance is similar to p4 with low power consumption...
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define low price. RM2K?
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@edmin, Lol.. Quite a nice person thou.

FAST FAST launch it and give price below tan 1.5k!! rclxm9.gif Looking for cheap lappy that can let work long hour with battery power. tongue.gif

Any oracle user here? Duh..
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@edmin, Lol.. Quite a nice person thou.

FAST FAST launch it and give price below tan 1.5k!! rclxm9.gif Looking for cheap lappy that can let work long hour with battery power. tongue.gif

Any oracle user here? Duh..
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the netbook suits lots of people because we don't need raw horsepower, we need the lightweight, long battery life and practical. if i need 2 do serious processing business, i would do it on a desktop. that's y netbooks are boooooooming everywhere.

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laugh.gif this thread suddenly so fast and hot ar
i posted the first post in this thread yesterday, went to sleep, now i see it's 3 pages long already!
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OT: laugh.gif Any guide for oracle form? Gosh... I'm almost faint with the form thingy in oracle as needed it for assignment. Anyways, PM me if u got any. Haha!

Oh yea.. Thats what im thinking off. Serious business tan just swap to desktop. And always, dekstop is powderful tan laptop. Im just on my mind for a notebook for presentation and paperwork, + VM. Thats all.

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laugh.gif this thread suddenly so fast and hot ar
i posted the first post in this thread yesterday, went to sleep, now i see it's 3 pages long already!
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P/S: the legendary thread in the hardware section, lolz

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my definition of low price. in the region of 1k-1.5k for a netbook. for a nettop, around 800-1k.
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If it's in that price range i'll lay my hands on them too  drool.gif
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@edmin,
lolz..actually done nothing much since i reformatted it few days ago. just installed some games on it since i just upgraded the gc. later gonna try install the new PES2009 demo thumbup.gif

@ac_N1,
same same here, if price is right might get one, so can take around to use for assignments etc..
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Haha.. EEE or Aspire one will be my choice. But still have to wait until Dell's release. MSI wind wasn't a wise choice as the price is almost same with a notebook. 1.7-1.9k. Aspire one might be the good one if put on price vs performance ratio. And the color quite nice also.
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hp mininote is quite nice also IMO. but price is really swt la..typical hp pricing..i can almost by 2 of the cheapest eeepc already.
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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 3 2008, 11:41 AM)
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Haha.. EEE or Aspire one will be my choice. But still have to wait until Dell's release. MSI wind wasn't a wise choice as the price is almost same with a notebook. 1.7-1.9k. Aspire one might be the good one if put on price vs performance ratio. And the color quite nice also.
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LOL.. HP products? Its good and its pricy. Say TAK NAK if dont have extra cash on hand. tongue.gif

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Hehe... See whether are they price wise or not. If wise.. Tan invest on extended warranty.
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laugh.gif agree agree with your comment on hp. i really love their pavillion line of notebooks, darn sleek and sexy. but look at the spec and price..really killing.. doh.gif
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LOL.. Work with HP before. And their products are lust.gif Anyways, HP currentCompaq Presario CQ series are ran on HP pavilion body (case).. It tempting man. Sexy looks! If u dont look at the big Q and the top, u will think that is Pavilion series. lust.gif And the price is quite cheap also. RM18xx some the amd based with integrated HD3200.
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hp mininote no no... check the specs la guys.

battery sucker and one hot @sshole... VIA cpu... no no no.... with the price to boot...

had hands on with asus eee, dun like the super plastic feel. not to mention the non ergonomic design.

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If u dont look at the big Q and the top, u will think that is Pavilion series. lust.gif
simple. skin it. thumbup.gif

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laugh.gif agree agree with your comment on hp. i really love their pavillion line of notebooks, darn sleek and sexy. but look at the spec and price..really killing.. doh.gif
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check at my sig, title 'My home rig'

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not really for this days... use ehem2 xp is good already..  laugh.gif
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lyn's p4 thread, is s3rious3 bu3inazz, what have u done with ur p4 2day? lol  innocent.gif

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i didn't know the cq series gonna come out..it came out shortly after i helped my dad got his presario c795. bah, if not maybe would have opted for the cq series instead.
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Boss,added you in the list. laugh.gif Your rig is almost similar to my legendary P4 1.7GHz. brows.gif
tongue.gif This thread is getting hot now.I've never expected this before.

Downloading prawn?Don't watch too much,later  rclxub.gif
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btw, prawn what story?
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thanks dude... my home rig sure an oldie one..  laugh.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif japanese big tiger prawns.... drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif tongue.gif
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Japanese tiger prawn, juicy and delicious drool.gif
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laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif japanese big tiger prawns.... drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  tongue.gif
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dry.gif mad.gif bruce.gif sign0014.gif

any one know what brand got mobo for p4 and got sdram slots?
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wow... 4th page then i am in...

congrats to everyone...
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Haha.. 90% of the post are sign0014.gif ... laugh.gif Anyways, hows ur mobo problem astria?
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well, thanks for ur concern... but nothing seems to work...

i ve decided to declare it dead *sob sob*... probably time to move on...

now i am planning to build a Ax2 5000+BE with 790GX system...
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Wow, indeed is fast for V7. rclxms.gif Up to 5 pages in one day, lol~

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Sorry to hear that. Anyway, is nice to have a better rig. smile.gif
Nice setup with 790GX. tongue.gif
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Woah.. Thats pity man! do u have fren that still owning S478 system? If got, i think is better ya bring it go over and give it a last finale test.
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nope... all ve hopped to the world of dual core... i am actually pretty "outdated" until there's a C2D in my home since last year...
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Woah... Its still myth whether are all the components is dead or not. Better keep it 1st.. Hahah! Hm.. Dark side calling arleady eh? Why dont Intel setup? brows.gif
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it's juz a simple setup for Internet, BT, videos and media center...

thought of using E5200 + G31 + HD 3450, but the mobo really turn me off and performance of HD 3450 and HD 3300 is not that far off

if G45... nah, the graphic performance is bad in terms of light gaming...

and also wanna try sth new... never use a AMD system before, so thought of giving it a shot... also the option of Hybrid Graphic and PowerPlay in the future... and also compatible with AM3 CPU as well...

only need to buy CPU + mobo + RAM + heatsink... and price is not that far off from E5200 + G32 + HD 3450 also...

so yeah, AMD for me this time round... if not for the new socket i may stick with Intel...

if u guys ve any ideas u can put them down here: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/807478

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Whoa. V7 and at page 5 already? laugh.gif Not bad. S478 still going on strong. biggrin.gif

@astria,
If you're just gonna BT/surf on that rig, no point getting high end stuff. A good X2 would suffice. Unless maybe you're gonna watch full HD movies? haha even then I still think its good enough.
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well, i am still open to other options...

perhaps a 4850E+ is good too...
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Haha.. Why not Intel atom? laugh.gif Thats is a cost saving chip since ur only do BT and watching movies. Lotsa ppl takes atom as HT pc setup.
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hmm.. HD movies also leh...

Atom = GMA950 only = no dedicated GPU... cannot lah...
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QUOTE(em0ti0n @ Oct 3 2008, 05:34 PM)
dry.gif  mad.gif  bruce.gif  sign0014.gif

any one know what brand got mobo for p4 and got sdram slots?
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laugh.gif sama-sama kawan..me also still stuck to sdrams..ur mobo dead already?

Added on October 3, 2008, 10:58 pm@astria, i see you buidling new system i also itchy itchy already wanna build new system for my home..laugh.gif

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ok, now i am considering:

Athlon x2 4850E
Giga GA-MA78GPM-DS2H
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Oh well... Guess X2 is the best fit for ur condition astria! Haha! Gonna sey gud bye to ur P4.. sad.gif

Anyways, just got 1 year KIS 2009 free access key. drool.gif Get it from a forumer for free! Yipee!
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Updated the GC.
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aiya..din see it earlier..but now using nod32 still no problems, lazy to change to KIS anyway..

@astria
what's the total budge tof your upgrade? if cheap then i might retire my old p4 too. but all depends on my dad tongue.gif
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IF BUY hd 2600 xT 256MB DDR3 WILL IT SEE BIG EFFECT IF SWAP WITH MY CURRENT 6600 GT 128 MB DDR3?
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bottleneck bottleneck!

hehe our 478 systems cant utilize the graphics card fully leh

save money

edit : nice system barry smile.gif

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ok, now i am considering:

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If u r going to migrate, how about ur ram, GC and processor?

Sell to me cheap cheap la brows.gif
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Microsoft said Intel is hitting the limits in design. While they can make it smaller and add more cores, the speed hasn't improved at all. And it would be harder for software developers as well since they have to optimize their programs to support more and more cores. But then again even though quad is out for some time, we still haven't see full use of dual core.

Did Intel knows that they can't go higher, so they chose to concentrate on other aspects?
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what is best GC option for agp platform? looking something that can replace my 6600GT 128 mb ddr3

Play Perfectworld also only can put low setting high setting will feel laggy
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Oct 4 2008, 10:34 AM)
what is best GC option for agp platform? looking something that can replace my 6600GT 128 mb ddr3

Play Perfectworld also only can put low setting high setting will feel laggy
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Hi dude I am using a 7600GS agp card. Later cards I am not too sure whether if there is agp versions. But I feel my proc is limitting the gc performance, i dont really think upgrading is a good idea. Just my 2 cents worth.

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what is best GC option for agp platform? looking something that can replace my 6600GT 128 mb ddr3

Play Perfectworld also only can put low setting high setting will feel laggy
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Radeon HD 3850...

but the price will make u shocking.gif

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@astria
what's the total budge tof your upgrade? if cheap then i might retire my old p4 too. but all depends on my dad tongue.gif
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CPU and mobo only, add together abt SG$280... laugh.gif

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If u r going to migrate, how about ur ram, GC and processor?

Sell to me cheap cheap la brows.gif
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in the process of selling...

u want me to mail to Malaysia for u??? whistling.gif

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That one is 3850 is over price for me burn my wallet

saw saphire HD 2600 XT 256mb ddr3 in garage sales not sure worth to take to replace my current card or not.
Ar.................................

My mind is screw up
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i think a 2nd hand 2600xt is quite ok..my uncle once sold it for around rm200+ only. definately much better than the 6600gt that you are using now. ati 2600xt performance should be around 8600gt performance.
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Lol.. If 2600XT with D3 than it should be a boost after upgrade. Duh.. I gotta get a backup board now.. Uncle Zues just paid me a visit last night! vmad.gif Onboard land is died now.. Gotta sent my current mobo to warranty!
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Oct 4 2008, 11:19 AM)
That one is 3850 is over price for me burn my wallet

saw saphire HD 2600 XT 256mb ddr3 in garage sales not sure worth to take to replace my current card or not.
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actually unless u have serious over clocked processor + some serious well timed high performance rams ,

you might want to consider upgrading from the 6600GT to anything out there. yes our gpu's are Shader Model 2.0 and nuts, but its really not worth it these days.
i have done the calculation smile.gif we still lose in every aspect each time we upgrade something on our 478


only reason is that our systems bottlenecks . there was a reason why 6800 / 6600 series / x800 / x1950 was the cut off point for AGP to move into PCIE

PCIE then took over for systems with DDR2, LGA775,C2D/C2Q etc

ive been longing to upgrade my pc to play many many games so far, but im waiting for my entire system to die to move to the PCIE + DDR2 + C2Q environment smile.gif

im not to leave my S478 brothers here tongue.gif

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One night didn't logged in today page 6 already.astria,your rig gone already?Seems like someone is eying on your spare parts. tongue.gif
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yup, i decided to declare it dead...

went down to hoot the stuff already... assembling now...

*trying to poison u guys*

oops.gif whistling.gif

Added on October 4, 2008, 4:42 pmwell, if u guys dun mind the mailing charges... i can send them to Malaysia... lol

anyway my X1950GT is in the process of selling, hope can get a good price...

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what price u wish to let go ur 1950? if cheap i might want to buy it ><
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u sure u wanna do this???

mind u that i live in Singapore, so there are stuff like delivery and transfer of money involved...
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u pm me total price how much lo... if with in my range i still can accept one. using courier service also less hassle right?
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u pm me total price how much lo... if with in my range i still can accept one. using courier service also less hassle right?
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well, that will ve to hold then... someone has already expressed interest with the card... i'll see how it goes and update u...
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Oh well... Guess X2 is the best fit for ur condition astria! Haha! Gonna sey gud bye to ur P4.. sad.gif

Anyways, just got 1 year KIS 2009 free access key. drool.gif Get it from a forumer for free! Yipee!
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Whoa. So good give out for free? blink.gif

QUOTE(astria @ Oct 4 2008, 04:40 PM)
yup, i decided to declare it dead...

went down to hoot the stuff already... assembling now...

*trying to poison u guys*

oops.gif  whistling.gif

Added on October 4, 2008, 4:42 pmwell, if u guys dun mind the mailing charges... i can send them to Malaysia... lol

anyway my X1950GT is in the process of selling, hope can get a good price...
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So what did you end up with? whistling.gif
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Athlon x2 5200+ and Biostar Ta790GX XE

goodness of Radeon HD 3300

Added on October 4, 2008, 6:58 pmu can refer to here...

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/807478/+20

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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 4 2008, 11:08 AM)
in the process of selling...

u want me to mail to Malaysia for u???  whistling.gif
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Well... let see what i still have in ur hand 1st. If the price is ok i'll take it from u =)
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well, i ve:

Sapphire Radeon X1950GT 256MB GDDR3 (in the process of selling, bai1101 is next one)
Power Color Radeon X1300 128MB DDR2
Asus Radeon 9550 128MB DDR
Corsair ValueRAM DDR400 256MB x2
(forgot brand) DDR400 256MB x2
Samsung DDR333 256MB x1
Samsung DDR266 256MB x1

if u want the Corsair RAM, i can give the other RAM to u free as well, can use as spare rit???
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aiks....ur x1950 is agp ka?

dem man...my C2D rig is using a similar g/c...x1950pro... doh.gif

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yup, all AGP...

last time bought as i used to had a 3.0E GHz to run it... but ever since this one is spoilt and i stuff the card to my 2.4B GHz, really can tell the difference...
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Well.. just interested in ur 1950 =P
How much u plan to let it go?
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LOL! Become mini garage sales thread. sweat.gif OT too much lo... Why dont make the deal in PM? tongue.gif Haha.. Well.. Wish u good luck in ur sales astria! So sad.. sad.gif Finding my backup mobo now.. Wander wanna grab a Mars or not.
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@fylon,
looking for a new core mobo ar? if i were u, i'd get biostar I45, or the the DFI JR....or P5Q...

i've read somewhere...that those who got the Mars, "regretted" and wanted to get I45....that's what i heard la...so pls don't quote me...hehe tongue.gif



@astria,

coming over to malaysia anytime soon? mebbe can being along those stuff that u wanna let go la....especually to P4 members here... rclxms.gif


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P4 2.8E Prescott @ 3.2Ghz / DFI 848P-AL / Kingston DDR400 1gb*2 / Sapphire HD2600xt

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lai new P4S478 member..
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wrong info..actualy is ddr400 2gb and agp hd2600xt
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@astria,

coming over to malaysia anytime soon? mebbe can being along those stuff that u wanna let go la....especually to P4 members here... rclxms.gif
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Looking for backup board as gotta sent my DS3R to warranty due uncle Zues paid me visit last night. sad.gif Just 2nd hand or low end board will do.
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do update me with ur card astria

I also bidding another forumer 2600xt hope good news from him
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Go find some used cheap mobo in garage sales for temporary usage lah laugh.gif i'm sure LGA775 isnt as rare as s478 laugh.gif
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im using ati catalyst 8.5

wan 2 move to 8.9

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try install 2 x 256mb ram in my system and it BSOD sad.gif sad.gif

Look like my system either no stable for 4 ram or no stable with different ram size mix

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1gb ram still expensive now ><
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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Oct 5 2008, 03:00 AM)
im using ati catalyst 8.5

wan 2 move to 8.9

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im using ati catalyst 8.5

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ok then 8.9 is a nOnO to me.. i dont compromise stability for performance on any normal day biggrin.gif
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lai new P4S478 member..
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hmm... 848 is the little brother of 865 rit???
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got 800, 865 and 848?

which is which? *confused*

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i know there's 845... (once owned this mobo)

succeeded by 865 and 875, then Intel come up with 848 as an updated 845/budget 865...

sth like the relationship of P43, P45 and X48 now...

OT: in the process of getting Gundam 00 Season2... can't wait man!!! rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 5 2008, 09:24 PM)
i know there's 845... (once owned this mobo)

succeeded by 865 and 875, then Intel come up with 848 as an updated 845/budget 865...

sth like the relationship of P43, P45 and X48 now...

OT: in the process of getting Gundam 00 Season2... can't wait man!!! rclxms.gif
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845 only support up to FSB533. 865 and 875 supports up to FSB800.

848? hmm.gif
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i've oced it to maximum 3.5Ghz..but less table..3.4ghz stable on normal working condition but less in gaming..will crash after half / one hour gaming.. 3.2ghz is the best overclocked speed i can get for everything.. stable and less disturbing sound produced from the proc..
the bad thing about this mobo is only 2dim memory slot..2gb ram max.. ITS REALLY NOT ENOUGH FOR VISTA..:cry.gif:
but overall its still a good mobo..

Added on October 5, 2008, 10:02 pm848 support up to 800fsb thou..
but really rare in the market biggrin.gif:

Added on October 5, 2008, 10:11 pmto all respectful s478 users..
i looking for new or used mobo that support 4gb DDR400.. with agp
prefre 865.. tell me if u able to find any of that..

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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 5 2008, 09:24 PM)
i know there's 845... (once owned this mobo)

succeeded by 865 and 875, then Intel come up with 848 as an updated 845/budget 865...

sth like the relationship of P43, P45 and X48 now...

OT: in the process of getting Gundam 00 Season2... can't wait man!!! rclxms.gif
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848 chipset is a cut cost version from 865PE.Seems like it has great o/c performance too!

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hmm , means my 865 board issnt that crappy after all biggrin.gif

how about 800 ? i saw a few 800 boards, those are the older 478's with lower FSB?
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hmm , means my 865 board issnt that crappy after all biggrin.gif

how about 800 ? i saw a few 800 boards, those are the older 478's with lower FSB?
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800 u mentioned is most likely VIA Chipset, not intel's, something like P4P800VM.
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800 Chipset only supports SD ram. Correct me i am wrong sweat.gif
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800 Chipset only supports SD ram. Correct me i am wrong sweat.gif
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i think what he mentioned is about fsb... like p4p800, p4c800, p4s800 etc... that 800 in those asus mobo mean support 800fsb cpu. correct me if i wrong. wink.gif

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have you stresstest the oced speed?? i strongly believe that at 3.4GHz for your case is not stable in orthos. even at 3.2ghz it shows stable in everything but i would advice that orthos it as well to comfirm 100% stablility. better play safe than risking your rig in long run.

fylon, Edmin, raymond and some others are hardcore ocer in 478. get tips from them. hehe....

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i meant the 800 sets, 865 sets , 848 sets, 875 sets

wait a minute, got 800 right?

i saw on the front page a few 800's
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The 800 is indicating 800FSB supported model. Not a chipset from Intel.
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those 800s are those mentioned by edmin and kabu. either it's via 800 series chipset or those 800 in asus mobo.
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those 800s are those mentioned by edmin and kabu. either it's via 800 series chipset or those 800 in asus mobo.
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i meant the 800 sets, 865 sets , 848 sets, 875 sets

wait a minute, got 800 right?

i saw on the front page a few 800's
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Haha.. Finally the thread is back to its topic. S478 hardware discussion. tongue.gif Oh yea.. Some update. Anyone heard about Intel Burn Test this priming software before?
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heard before. saw it somewhere here. if not mistaken it was in the software or overclocking thread. it's for stressing the cpu like prime95 rite?
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Yea.. Google'ed it and found some people say that it works well with Intel CPU due it were created by Intel Engineer. And some say that this tools can caused around 5-20'c temp increment in compare with Prime95 / Orthos / SP version.
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it suitable for whose want do burn test is shorter time....

For these have enough time prime95 still ok
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a few posts in V6 had discussion on this , lol

near the end of V6 though

or is it in V7

hmm
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V7 oredi ... hail to da old skool user like me ...  notworthy.gif ... Happy Hari Raya to all too ...  tongue.gif
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O/T: Hows ur rigs doing? LOL! Football freak! Getting new football jersey with duit raya? brows.gif

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O/T: Hows ur rigs doing? LOL! Football freak! Getting new football jersey with duit raya? brows.gif

Haha.. Just lay my hand on an IBM server! Love the WD VelociRaptor sooooo much!! 4x 300GB! drool.gif lust.gif
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OT: Haha.. Still thought ur a jersey collector! Show some support ma!~ tongue.gif

Anyways, just clocked my current work space PC. Shhhss.. Dont tell the boss! Haha.. FSB233 @ 2.8Ghz with 2.5-3-3-5! brows.gif Decent timing with 400mhz boost! So far so good! Everthing in stock voltage.
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OT: Haha.. Still thought ur a jersey collector! Show some support ma!~ tongue.gif

Anyways, just clocked my current work space PC. Shhhss.. Dont tell the boss! Haha.. FSB233 @ 2.8Ghz with 2.5-3-3-5! brows.gif Decent timing with 400mhz boost! So far so good! Everthing in stock voltage.
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Haha.. Nop! Refer back to V6 than u will know. P4 2.4 only! But its HT enable! brows.gif 1GB ram and mx440! Thats all..
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QUOTE(sang_karim @ Oct 7 2008, 08:28 AM)
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What is the difference between SATA and SATA2?
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SATA = 1.5GB/s
SATA2 = 3GB/s
Where GB = Gigabit!

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA

Lol.. P4 only have SATA.

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and i use external casings so i can use SATA2

since usb 2.0 is able to transfer more data than 3.0GB/s smile.gif

not sure exact number though..
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U sure ah? USB 2.0 can hit 3.GB/s for the transfer rate? I thought the maximum output of hi-speed USB 2.0 was 480Mbit/s? hmm.gif

Edit: The GB = Gigabits! Wish it to be GigaBITE! drool.gif

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you sure usb 2.0 can hit that speed? AFAIK e-sata only can wor..
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a sata2 can transfer at 450

a usb 2.0 can transfer at 480

so using usb 2.0, u will be able to get speeds up to 450 for the hdd

i have tested it smile.gif
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But the speed in not guaranteed right? I mean the bandwidth, not all the device can support max speed. And there will be some losses in translating the data with the interface and computer.
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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Oct 7 2008, 04:00 PM)
a sata2 can transfer at 450

a usb 2.0 can transfer at 480

so using usb 2.0, u will be able to get speeds up to 450 for the hdd

i have tested it smile.gif
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erm... i thought SATA2's max speed is 3Gbps (3 Gigabits per sec)??? meaning it's abt 375MB/s (375 Megabyte per sec)

USB2.0's max speed is 480Mbps, meaning it's 60MB/s...
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The cable and connector for SATA and SATA2 is the same? hmm.gif
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i read in a review that usb is all mroe than enough for to support sata2 data transfer

it is enough by just a bit

on the sata2 and usb, i dun see any difference in file transfer

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It was. smile.gif

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Yea.. I think there is no devices which can work with 100% full speed atm. Sure there will some losses right? If USB version of external storage, it depend on the chipset on the casing as well. Some chip can corp with the speed and some cant.

Theoretical i think USB is faster but then the problem on the connector of the devices. That what i can think of.
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tried transfering on USB2.0 to my external 2.5" PATA HDD with cha pa lam casing...

max transfer speed i get is 20MB/s only... looks reasonable for USB2.0... since PATA's transfer speed is 100MB/s max...

anyway:

SATA - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA

it is 1.5Gbps for SATA1 and 3.0Gbps for SATA2

USB 2.0 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_2.0#USB_2.0

it is 480Mbps only...

thus for external HDD, their speed is limited by USB severely... unless u use eSATA...
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I never really study sata2 blink.gif This morning see sang_karim is using sata2 only then realise that my board also can run sata2 doh.gif
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Ur board only can run SATA. Meaning if u plug in the SATA2 HDD into it, it only run at SATA speed, which is 1.5GB/s.
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Eh fylon, didn't notice you also using the same casing as me. laugh.gif Cheap and good. biggrin.gif
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Ur board only can run SATA. Meaning if u plug in the SATA2 HDD into it, it only run at SATA speed, which is 1.5GB/s.
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Heheh.. Yea! Got mine for 265! laugh.gif I like the interior! Lol..

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Haha! Migrate than u will get SATA2 + AHCI! brows.gif
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Added on October 7, 2008, 11:48 pm By the way... what is AHCI? I'm noob in the 775 stuff blink.gif

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Host...oller_Interface

this device create a lot of problem to ppl who noob with pc special this using acer 4530 ><

Dont know there solve it or not i am interest on this notebook
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Haha.. Mr google will tell u a everything la! Just google! Sometime the explanation is too long! Lazy to type. tongue.gif

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Not to this AHCI is bad. Well.. It is because 4350 were running on SATA HDD and actually the hardware in it were create for Vista. But people tend to force XP into it. By right XP do not support AHCI, that is why when people face problem with formatting it. Anyways, just slip stream the SATA driver into your XP installation disc then problem solved. Im currently running on AHCI mode on my rigs in XP. Everything is running fine. Atleast the potential of SATA HDD been unleashed. icon_rolleyes.gif

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The reason i din google for it because every explaination comes in essay form @@ Maybe u guys can help me summarize it brows.gif
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Haha.. Dont be lazy man. We do get the info from Mr. Google and digest on ur own. tongue.gif

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"just slip stream the SATA driver into your XP installation disc"

(i hate this part no really good with it lol & i hate using floppy disc also lol)
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Haha.. Everyone start from drink milk before eat rice. laugh.gif Gotta learn how to make it.. Well, that how life is. Learning is the part of life! icon_rolleyes.gif
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Haha.. Everyone start from drink milk before eat rice. laugh.gif Gotta learn how to make it.. Well, that how life is. Learning is the part of life! icon_rolleyes.gif
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Aikzzz! I just tell the truth man! Hah.. Dont quite my sentences! cry.gif

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ur quote is dem good la....that's why i said it's the best i've heard so far this month... nod.gif nod.gif notworthy.gif



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Heheh.. Yea! Got mine for 265! laugh.gif I like the interior! Lol..

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Haha! Migrate than u will get SATA2 + AHCI! brows.gif
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12cm fans, suck in alot of dust laa. sad.gif
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get a filter la...
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Lol.. Put fan filter! I ran me with 3x FM123 for ST and 1 original CM 12cm fan! lust.gif So far so good.. My proc without OC max load only 30'c while idle was 25'c.
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I think dumax.. Forgot already. tongue.gif Haha! Now its not too late to drink yet! brows.gif Pengster is discussing about his CM690.. laugh.gif Since we both get the same chassis.
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Dumax ah?Local made i think should be safe.Haha.CM690,how you all bought around RM260 like that ?
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Hahaha! Nah.. Get a cow from kampung or import 1 from NZ.. Should be able to get rid of the poison milk issues. Provided u got enough of fresh grass and water for it. brows.gif

Yea.. CM690 is around that price.. If im not mistaken, the 1st gen of this chassis are only cost less then RM230. But because the casing having good demand then the price is up. sweat.gif Its a good chassis anyways, plenty of space. What i like is the PSU is plan at bottom rather then hang at the top of the case.

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Oh, milk thread now? tongue.gif

Haha, the CM690 casing is very good with a nice price. Can fit 7 fans. Just nice. rclxms.gif
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cm590 also not bad. interior same like cm690. only thing different is that it has more open drive bays. and no reset button sweat.gif
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Want some? brows.gif

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Yea! Can consider as the upgrade version of CM590. Haha..
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i would prefer silent setup rather than many many fans...hehe...
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no lust.gif lust.gif lust.gif for me

definitely vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

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now fan thread... lol...

talking abt that, i am going to get some fans for my casing... realized not enough ventilation...
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Haha, currently I'm using TT Tsunami. That casing is more than enough for me. biggrin.gif
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Wah the casing can fit in 7 fans? lust.gif then i can begin to save $ for it already.Haha.
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Haha.. Got poisoned. laugh.gif Yea.. Its a nice case basically, quite cheap if compare with other type. The interior quite big lo.. Can be mod for WC. thumbup.gif
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anyone wants my elite 331? brows.gif
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I'm tempting with the capacity in the case and 7 fans can be fitted inside. brows.gif
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Guys.. i already decided i'm going to migrate to dual-core system next month brows.gif

Dont know whether here is the correct place to ask. What mobo should i get for good overclock ability with cheap reasonable price?
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Haha.. Ask at the wrong place lo. Try set a new thread at hardware Q&A. Guess u will get alot of feedback. And also, do remember state ur budget. icon_rolleyes.gif
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@ac_n1, how about ur p4 rig then?
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Haha.. Ask at the wrong place lo. Try set a new thread at hardware Q&A. Guess u will get alot of feedback. And also, do remember state ur budget. icon_rolleyes.gif
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@ac_n1, how about ur p4 rig then?
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go AMD... hehe...

Phenom + 790GX are the perfect combi!!!
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laugh.gif i saw his thread in garage sales too tongue.gif
Phenom + 790GX seems like a nice combo also, plus can do hybrid crossfire..drool.gif
but got no chance to get to try it la..
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main thing is 790GX has got ACC, or Advanced Clock Calibration...

6 buses are connected to Phenom directly to adjust the clock on the fly, and really push the oc ability of Phenom to the limit...

and Advanced PowerPlay that works with Radeon HD cards to save power during 2D and light 3D...

haha, poison poison...
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btw, wanna ask u guys...

for fans rit, the higher it's Ampere (A) means more air it can blow, but also mean nosier rit???
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blink.gif Air measurement unit not CFM ah? CFM aka Cubic feet per minute. The higher the CFM of a fan, the more air it can blown.
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wat i mean is the higher the Ampere, the faster the fan will spin rit??
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Lol.. AMD poisoning eh! Hahah..

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Yea... I like commando since long long time ago. Just that worried it will a bit pricey sweat.gif
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If i were u, i will rather go for Biostar T-power. As comando was phase out already. If im not mistaken, it was running on P965 chipset.

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Hm.. About that im not sure. But theoretically, ampere is refer to a coulomb of charge going past a given point in the duration of one second. So higher ampere = high fan speed = louder noise.

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Erm... cos i'm using ASUS all this time and satisfied with it. Biostar... reliable? hmm.gif
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Hahaha! Asus is having quite alot of issues now. If spent some time on reading the article / rumors about asus then u will know. Anyways, check ur PM. Haha!
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i would say Biostar is pretty value for money... not a bad choice if ure not going after for extreme performance...
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Yea. Cheap and ROCK SOLID! haha! Eh guys, some question regarding P4 wanted to ask. Anyone faced strange problem on ur P4 rigs where the screen will flicker for a sec then the whole system is hanged? Need to have a hard rest then it can back to normal. Was having this kinda of problem with my work place pc.
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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 9 2008, 09:45 PM)
Yea. Cheap and ROCK SOLID! haha! Eh guys, some question regarding P4 wanted to ask. Anyone faced strange problem on ur P4 rigs where the screen will flicker for a sec then the whole system is hanged? Need to have a hard rest then it can back to normal. Was having this kinda of problem with my work place pc.
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That's strange. Is it caused by irregular power supply? hmm.gif
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Yea. Thats what in my mine.. Will try to find out the problem. And i found 1 thign strange, if no USB device is plugged it, the system wont hanged often. But once USB device is in, it got hang frequently.

Was wander whether is the mobo or the PSU.
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That's strange. Is it caused by irregular power supply?  hmm.gif
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brownout??
meaning the electricty sourced to the pc is not stable?
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brownout??
meaning the electricty sourced to the pc is not stable?
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affirmative. if the monitor flickers (power source not from PSU, but main socket), then confirm brownout due to sudden voltage reduction. simple explanation and troubleshooting.

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My PC does have AVP on top of it. The LCD and CPU were using separate power source. Both of them are connected to the main wall socket yet not the extension. Will that scenario still consider as brownout?

Well.. I do heard the "click" sounds from the CPU right a sec before system. I think it should be come from the HDD. Some sort of HDD been turn off sounds.
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it's either like edmin said, brownout, or your psu gonna kong. last time i also faced that problem, my hdd keep ticking, like it's going off and on. shortly after that my psu had some burning smell and the next day KO d. but that psu was chap ayam one la..tongue.gif
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Hahah.. I hope mine dun die that fast as i dun see any backup pc on the TS room yet. sweat.gif Well time to propose the boss a new setup! laugh.gif
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@edmin
My PC does have AVP on top of it. The LCD and CPU were using separate power source. Both of them are connected to the main wall socket yet not the extension. Will that scenario still consider as brownout?

Well.. I do heard the "click" sounds from the CPU right a sec before system. I think it should be come from the HDD. Some sort of HDD been turn off sounds.
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AVP? Alien vs Predator on top of your system unit? laugh.gif

Well, depends on the quality of AVR. The one i am using is Olivetti, always works during brownouts. Your scenario, still is a brownout. Your HDD clicks because the head goes back to the parking lot due to 'low voltage' similar to turning off the HDD. Brownouts and spikes usually not healthy for the components.
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Haha.. AVR la! Typo! Play too much AVP game already. laugh.gif Nvm.. Not my rigs.. If it burn then propose for a new one. biggrin.gif

Just i found out something, the brownouts used to happened when the system in load. If idie, it rarely happened. Powah not enuf! sad.gif

Brownouts only to certain pc? Cos my colleague pc and mine were connected to the same wall socket. I mean from the same source, but only mine used to have it. His pc is fine.
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wah, P4 still can gaming ?
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Dont see ur thread is really helps in this thread. wink.gif But for ur answer, yes. P4 still rocking ass.
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haha ! im only using P4 in my office for MS words and Office work...

gaming only normal game
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haha ! im only using P4 in my office for MS words and Office work...

gaming only normal game
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P4 still rocks !
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fylon,still can play game.Last week i just went back my hometown and use my 2.6GHz rig to play CS 1.6. tongue.gif
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Lol.. CS still fine as long as the GC can support. But say TAK NAK to game like, Assassin Creed & Crysis and other require raw CPU processing power game. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Oct 10 2008, 10:07 AM)
fylon,still can play game.Last week i just went back my hometown and use my 2.6GHz rig to play CS 1.6. tongue.gif
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Lol.. CS still fine as long as the GC can support. But say TAK NAK to game like, Assassin Creed & Crysis and other require raw CPU processing power game. sweat.gif
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i can still CS Cheat in CS using P4 ! wakakaka rclxm9.gif
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anybody say game in P4? Running DMC4, C&C3, HL2, CSS on P4, of course with the help of 7600GT.
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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 9 2008, 09:45 PM)
Yea. Cheap and ROCK SOLID! haha! Eh guys, some question regarding P4 wanted to ask. Anyone faced strange problem on ur P4 rigs where the screen will flicker for a sec then the whole system is hanged? Need to have a hard rest then it can back to normal. Was having this kinda of problem with my work place pc.
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power problem

get an AVR , if not change PSU

either 1 smile.gif

i bought a AVR and resolved that problem. I have a small light bulb connected 2 the same 4 socket plug in my room and previously it flickers (then my PC hangs)

when it flickers, the bulb blows up as well, LOL!

after AVR, it never flickers and my PC never hangs smile.gif icon_rolleyes.gif notworthy.gif

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C&C3, HL2, CSS


those games can run on my rig as well, med - high settings on 1280 x 1024

these games can run on p4, smile.gif sacrifice some things such as shadows and anti aliasing biggrin.gif

DMC4 cant because of the Shader Model requirement , where mine is only 2.0

im not surprised a 7600gt can do that as well ~ smile.gif

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I finally revived another P4 up to running condition.... biggrin.gif

finally after afew months' of delay due to poor fundings... doh.gif

p4 2.8g ht, jetway PM9M mobo

anyone got 2 sticks of cheap ddr400 rams to let go???

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Lol.. CS still fine as long as the GC can support. But say TAK NAK to game like, Assassin Creed & Crysis and other require raw CPU processing power game. sweat.gif
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i can still CS Cheat in CS using P4 ! wakakaka  rclxm9.gif
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anybody say game in P4? Running DMC4, C&C3, HL2, CSS on P4, of course with the help of 7600GT.
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Lol.. Put fan filter! I ran me with 3x FM123 for ST and 1 original CM 12cm fan! lust.gif So far so good.. My proc without OC max load only 30'c while idle was 25'c.
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Haha.. Got poisoned. laugh.gif Yea.. Its a nice case basically, quite cheap if compare with other type. The interior quite big lo.. Can be mod for WC. thumbup.gif
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Lately my 6800GS overheating la. No OC also artifacts appear when playing CSS. Thinking of getting the Evercool Turbo 2 to replace the stock cooler. RM59 only. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Oct 10 2008, 12:08 PM)
those games can run on my rig as well, med - high settings on 1280 x 1024

these games can run on p4, smile.gif sacrifice some things such as shadows and anti aliasing biggrin.gif

DMC4 cant because of the Shader Model requirement , where mine is only 2.0

im not surprised a 7600gt can do that as well ~ smile.gif
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7600GT, P4 3.0GHz HT, 2GB DDR400 wub.gif
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Haha.. Yea! Invest 3 FM123 on my case. The noise level is still acceptable for me. WC? That not gonna be cheap eh. Still stick to AC better lo. Save $$.

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lust.gif Can 7900GT maintain 120fps? Haha..
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CSS benchmark 1440x900 maxed out details 16X AF 8X AA = 90+fps  wub.gif
7600GT, P4 3.0GHz HT, 2GB DDR400  wub.gif
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7600GT can get such high fps on CSS? brows.gif

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Haha.. Yea! Invest 3 FM123 on my case. The noise level is still acceptable for me. WC? That not gonna be cheap eh. Still stick to AC better lo. Save $$.

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lust.gif Can 7900GT maintain 120fps? Haha..
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Haha... No time for gaming ray.. sad.gif My rigs were not utilized now. Only utilized work place P4 system. laugh.gif Current system just on as DL server.
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@fylon,no need to play the game actually. Just load the game and see the average fps for a while can already. Edmin said he tested on benchmark for CSS,you download the file and run the bechmark. brows.gif
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Owh... Quite outdated with benchmark thingy now. Haha! CSS have it own benchmark software like Crysis? Mind show the link? drool.gif
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Owh... Quite outdated with benchmark thingy now. Haha! CSS have it own benchmark software like Crysis? Mind show the link? drool.gif
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I think i'll go for Tseries board around $320. Asus with the same spec priced at $500+ shakehead.gif
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So bad.. I thought it was a stand alone installer. sad.gif

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what really attracts me it can use USB to flash the BIOS. Last time my P4P800SE also crashed and then i failed to flash the bios =.= End up need to send the board for rma.

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The CSS need to install first then only can run?I thought it is a stand alone benchies.
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@ac_N1,
asus also got some useful features. some of their models have expressgate module, can preload linux and use skype and mozilla. very useful if you're in a hurry to use the internet smile.gif
asus boards also look more classy tongue.gif my previous and current board, plus my bro's one, all have been asus boards laugh.gif

where to find the css benchie? i have css, i tried searching inside the css folder but can't find wor...

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i know ASUS is good. and i'm using ASUS all this time too. But.. they are too pricey la. As mentioned in my previous post, the same thing will cost you 100+ more =.=
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yeah...i guess that's the price to pay if you wanna get a more popular and better product with some extra features..haha
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yeah...i guess that's the price to pay if you wanna get a more popular and better product with some extra features..haha
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If not than go for gigabyte.. Quite solid in OC also, the board quite simple as well, not much extra feature beside the express recovery while is good for those ppl who seeking for 3rd party HDD cloning software. icon_rolleyes.gif
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lol, last time i check, Giga's 780G is SG$20 more expensive than Biostar's 790GX...
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IMHO then the biostar should be a good choice. 790GX, newer chip with better oc capability, and hybrid crossfire too. smile.gif
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780G also can do hybrid crossfire...

juz that HD 3200 has lower core clock, and SidePort is optional...

HD 3300 has higher core clock and SidePort is compulsory...

i at first considered GIga's GA-M78GPM-DS2H, cuz one, i pretty like Giga, and two, this one has got SidePort...

but since Biostar is SG$20 cheaper and comes with 790GX, might as well hoot that... and also heard that SB750 gives higher oc-ability too...

or if u re really hardcore, DFI has got a mATX 790GX mobo with dual PCI-E x16... brows.gif
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wah lao, so much sign0006.gif , back on track pls guys... want to sign0014.gif also spam about 478 ler... laugh.gif



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LOL! P4 spamming! lust.gif Yo admin, hows ur lappy? Sold? brows.gif Spotted ur thread on other forum.
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LOL! P4 spamming! lust.gif Yo edmin, hows ur lappy? Sold? brows.gif Spotted ur thread on other forum.
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not yet, going slow and steady... upgraded to 160GB for torrent now... laugh.gif

also played 1280x720 mkv files on it, smoothhhhhh...p4 mobile still thumbup.gif

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Wah.. On sales tag still upgrade ah? laugh.gif Not bad huh.. laugh.gif

Was wandering should i get a new lappy by next month when i go KL for workshop or wad til Dec kch pc fair than buy. dilemma! doh.gif

P/s: Wah seh.. Still upload picture here. Wanna boost ur sales? lust.gif

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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 12 2008, 02:20 PM)
Wah.. On sales tag still upgrade ah? laugh.gif Not bad huh.. laugh.gif

Was wandering should i get a new lappy by next month when i go KL for workshop or wad til Dec kch pc fair than buy. dilemma! doh.gif

P/s: Wah seh.. Still upload picture here. Wanna boost ur sales? lust.gif
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my advise, purchase in december if you can afford to wait! more upcoming new lappy series with cheaper price tag soon. i still eyeing on netbook though... such as lenovo s10 and dell mini 9 (mini 9 only available in retail channels, not online)

P/S: boost sales plus DSLR poisoning to fellow s478 owners... maybe we all should post our P4 setup that still survives strong til year of 2008 photos here??? wub.gif for nostalgic feelings sake!

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Thanks for the note down edmin! thumbup.gif Guess save back few bucks 1st than hantam at PC fair. laugh.gif

OT: Btw, did u been to saberkas recently? Been there last week and saw a shop that retailing Dell pc if im not mistaken. Somewhere at 1st UG/1st floor.. Forgot the exact spot already.

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edmin,your model was the high end one last time right?Normal series i don't think is looking like this.
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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 12 2008, 02:33 PM)
Thanks for the note down edmin! thumbup.gif Guess save back few bucks 1st than hantam at PC fair. laugh.gif

OT: Btw, did u been to saberkas recently? Been there last week and saw a shop that retailing Dell pc if im not mistaken. Somewhere at 1st UG/1st floor.. Forgot the exact spot already.
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edmin,your model was the high end one last time right?Normal series i don't think is looking like this.
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Itu edmin is P4 freak! laugh.gif Almost all his system is powered by P4. lust.gif
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not almost, is all ler.... icon_question.gif

because i m stuck in the P4 era...still cannot move on to the new generations doh.gif

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lust.gif Ic.. Didnt been there for quite sometime already. Once been there, thing changed. Haha! Btw, just some can we order the DIY version, like what we did through online at the shop? Haha..
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lust.gif Ic.. Didnt been there for quite sometime already. Once been there, thing changed. Haha! Btw, just some can we order the DIY version, like what we did through online at the shop? Haha..
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yes you can order customized system from there too but it will be sent to your house anyway...why bother??? order online lahhh...unless u molest kaw kaw b4 u buy or want to CoD, then worth to make a trip there. if not, just direct online order, save the hassle! icon_idea.gif
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@fylon,planning to get yourself a lappy?

@edmin,i'm also got stuck in P4 era. tongue.gif There is no HP/ Fujitsu center at Kuching there? hmm.gif
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Lol.. Who nows after molest then wanna add some "SYOK" tools in ma.. Then need to order a customized version lo. laugh.gif

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Do have HP but aint sure about Fujitsu.

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Hi , I want to ask those using pentium 4 .Anyone feel lag or totally cannot run clip on the website which is full of flash ?
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for as much as i know, p4's never had problems with that biggrin.gif

thats disgracing for a p4 biggrin.gif
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That is software problem rather then hardware i assume.
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Hi , I want to ask those using pentium 4 .Anyone feel lag or totally cannot run clip on the website which is full of flash ?
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erm.. that's software plbm. Even if it's just using integrated graphic, P4 still can manage to play those flash files smoothly nod.gif
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yup, i would agree that its software..

cant be a P4 having that problem.. many others here dont , or rather none
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Flash isn't a heavy loaded program,maybe the software is the culprit i guess.Might be corupted though.
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no graphic drivers

graphic hardware acceleration not full

possible culprits
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worse comes to worst just format the whole thing nod.gif
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LOL! Formatting was the last resort. laugh.gif Anyways, my P4 work place desktop being back to normal after swap in a new PSU. laugh.gif
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LOL! Formatting was the last resort. laugh.gif Anyways, my P4 work place desktop being back to normal after swap in a new PSU. laugh.gif
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Yea. Guess so. But after all.. P4 goes alive and rocking ass again. lust.gif Btw, any good brand of AVR/Surge protector to into? Planning to get 1 for my home rigs. Recent the current not stable, once again will heard the "zziiizz.." sound come out from my psu eh. Just recently it happened.
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AVR? you can get any brand,guess the average price is about RM55-60 selling in shop.The sound is because of current isn't stable?
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Haha.. Looking for a decent one. Im scare of the cheapskate version cant protect my rigs but burn it in return. sweat.gif Was looking for the 2 in 1 type which means surge protector + AVR.

Oh yea.. I think my house current not stable recently. Even my house light will flicking.
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@fylon,the AVR is including the surge protector features on it.Don't worry about the quality,i see a lot of students are using them widely. biggrin.gif
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Lol.. AFAIK, there is a brand call APC is doing quite well. But i ain't sure about the others.
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My brothers are using,both same brand.Forgot which brand are they using,but i know so far so good on their units.

Added on October 14, 2008, 9:10 pmMy brothers are using,both same brand.Forgot which brand are they using,but i know so far so good on their units.

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im using one, KOSS AVR biggrin.gif

well not bad but i suggest APC

its enterprise type product smile.gif
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Yea. Do heard about KOSS before. As my company now all are using APC.

Jcsy, what the price for urs?
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Now hunting 1gb ram x 2
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2x 1GB will be a pain and rare for DDR module. sweat.gif Ya mobo has how many slot? If ur not into OC, i'll suggest go for 4x 512mb. Which can save back few bucks.
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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Oct 14 2008, 09:24 PM)
im using one, KOSS AVR biggrin.gif

well not bad but i suggest APC

its enterprise type product smile.gif
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@fylon,my brothers aer using KOSS one.

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Yeah just update my card to 2600XT 512mb DDR3

Now hunting 1gb ram x 2
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Haha.. Looking for a decent one. Im scare of the cheapskate version cant protect my rigs but burn it in return. sweat.gif Was looking for the 2 in 1 type which means surge protector + AVR.

Oh yea.. I think my house current not stable recently. Even my house light will flicking.
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for now, APC is nice. mine is i guess 20 years old, brand is Olivetti (given by my uncle), super solid AVR with fuse blown once only, protecting the connected equipments! Whenever ada spike or brownouts, the equipments connected is still stable (except full blackout). The things produced back then is really built to last! Good quality... icon_rolleyes.gif

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Yea. That quite rare.. laugh.gif OMG! My 500GB now left 200GB.. Too much drama & amine series to chase on. sad.gif Heroes Season 3, Sarah Chronicles Season 2.. drool.gif

@edmin
Yea! Found that mostly office will go for APC. Well.. Waiting for gaji then invest 1 AVR! laugh.gif

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Yea. That quite rare.. laugh.gif OMG! My 500GB now left 200GB.. Too much drama & amine series to chase on. sad.gif Heroes Season 3, Sarah Chronicles Season 2.. drool.gif

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Yea! Found that mostly office will go for APC. Well.. Waiting for gaji then invest 1 AVR! laugh.gif
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I thought the AVR where build in with surge protector, AVR and backup battery?

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I thought the AVR where build in with surge protector, AVR and backup battery?
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nope. AVR=Auto Voltage Regulator
UPS=Uninterrupted power Supply

I recommend NOT to get UPS for home user. The battery maintenance will KILL you. doh.gif
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LOL.. Would there have any type which is all in one? Haha! Well, for me i think an AVR will do already.
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LOL.. Would there have any type which is all in one? Haha! Well, for me i think an AVR will do already.
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current UPS usually have built in AVR function already, so no worries (check the specs before u buy lor). nod.gif

if UPS low maintenance, I would go for it, but it's the opposite. AVR easier maintenance, usually fuse blown only if anything serious.
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agreed, fuse blown only...

UPS, common meh your house blackout?

with that blackout , can justify cost of maintenance biggrin.gif?

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No dare try 512 x 4 pcs cause my mobo BSOD when i add another 256 x 2,

I guess my another 2 slot already have problem when running Dual Channel
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have u tried just running both those extra 256x2?

those could be faulty / messed up
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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Oct 14 2008, 11:28 PM)
agreed, fuse blown only...

UPS, common meh your house blackout?

with that blackout , can justify cost of maintenance biggrin.gif?
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i reckon some ppl will go for it, and some don't....

in my case, my place is quite common for power to go off...also my area here is quite prone to lightning strikes... doh.gif

almost everyone around my neaighbourhood had something burnt/killed by lightning.... doh.gif

just last nite, around 12.30am...got heavy rain and lightning....hse main DB tripped... rclxub.gif

so, depends on ur area, if no frequent power failure, then no need UPS....prolly an avr is sufficient...

my area, without UPS, very risky.... vmad.gif

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have u tried just running both those extra 256x2?

those could be faulty / messed up
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i try just running, 512 x 2 on the ram slot i mention...

My machine hang and BSOD sometimes after startup. so i declare this 2 ram as faulty ram slot already. (trouble some mobo, Sound card KO, One IDE KO rclxub.gif )
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i try just running, 512 x 2 on the ram slot i mention...

My machine hang and BSOD sometimes after startup. so i declare this 2 ram as faulty ram slot already. (trouble some mobo, Sound card KO, One IDE KO  rclxub.gif )
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Sounds like P4p800-X is crap. Haha. Time to look for another mobo already. tongue.gif
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dont know may be just me unlucky gua.

I feel want buy 1gb x 2 but hard to find and burn wallet T_T

1gb no enough for me run game also almost eat all the ram already Need at lest extra 512 but my ram slot T_T..................... ar.................

I think looking another mobo is better choice also lol
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Asus low end mobo is really crap la. 1Gb of RAM isn't really sufficient for you for decent gaming.2*1Gb RAM is hard to get too,not only the issue to burn wallet. Last PC in Penang,i saw 1GB RAM only selling RM100 per stick.
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not hard for me to find in KL but just expensive.

100 plus each
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Haha.. If me, i will choose not to upgrade and use until the system dead. Save the upgrading $$ for new rigs would be a wise move. As now, the P4 parts is getting rare and rarer and the price is not cheap.
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Haha.. If me, i will choose not to upgrade and use until the system dead. Save the upgrading $$ for new rigs would be a wise move. As now, the P4 parts is getting rare and rarer and the price is not cheap.
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pesanan ini dibawa khas untuk anda oleh kementerian minyak mahal negara & jabatan inflasi tinggi negara.

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Eh? not jambantan ah? Haha.. Minyak only drop 15cent... sad.gif But still, it better then it dint drop.
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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 15 2008, 10:15 PM)
Eh? not jambantan ah? Haha.. Minyak only drop 15cent... sad.gif But still, it better then it dint drop.
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though minyak drop a bit, but other daily needs items already up kaw kaw.. cry.gif

that prevented me from getting new rig, saving money for the upcoming bad times... rclxub.gif

but P4 users, embrace your rigs, as they are still strong with us today, supporting us through the good times and bad times laugh.gif
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@edmin,i agree with you.Now the economy is really bad.Afraid to get fired anytime from now. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Oct 15 2008, 11:55 PM)
@edmin,i agree with you.Now the economy is really bad.Afraid to get fired anytime from now. sweat.gif
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yeap, everything in doubt, not stable. vmad.gif

if u looking for new job, the salary they offer you is low low low, as low as possible... sweat.gif

so be thankful that our p4 still serves us well these days, no need for us to fork out extra to buy new rigs brows.gif if really itchy 2 upgrade, i suggest upgrade something that you'll be able to transfer to new rigs, such as sound card, speakers, etc.
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Oct 15 2008, 04:50 PM)
dont know may be just me unlucky gua.

I feel want buy 1gb x 2 but hard to find and burn wallet T_T

1gb no enough for me run game also almost eat all the ram already Need at lest extra 512 but my ram slot T_T..................... ar.................

I think looking another mobo is better choice also lol
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check here

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/736729/+0&#entry20680916

RM95 for 1GB DDR400
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@edmin,yup i agree. I have a plan to upgrade my sound card and speaker in some other time in future. My speaker is lame,on board sound is also lame.

Added on October 16, 2008, 8:34 am@edmin,dunno the RAM from HP can make o/c a bit or not. If yes i guess is a great buy though.

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Haha.. Upgrade bigger LCD, bigger speaker~ Logitech Z5500! drool.gif

Anyways, economy is getting worse now.. The whole world is infected. sad.gif

HP module? Should be ok for OC as long as the chip can take high latency.
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@fylon,not sure but 1GB for RM95 is quite cheap man. tongue.gif

Found new 6800XT 256Bits 512MB DDR2 is selling at only RM135. thumbup.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/808917
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Yea. Quite a nice figure for ppl that insist wanna upgrade. tongue.gif With that price, DDR2 can grab a 2GB module already. laugh.gif


6800XT? Are u on ur mind to get 1? Haha.. Wander does the pipeline can be unlock or not. hmm.gif
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@fylon,guess i'm not going to get it cause now very seldom i play games.But this Biostar is good to grab as 512bits on the memory interface. If the pipeline can unlock to 16... drool.gif
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@Ray,512bit? shocking.gif 256bit right? Haha.. Yea! If the pipeline can be unlock that it would be a nice card.
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ya salary really no enough use

Purchase daily item also can easy hit RM800-900 per month now.

Tat why so headache when want buy new part

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So, dont upgrade. laugh.gif Stay at what ever u have now. Just cut down dont play too much game lo. Haha.. That what i did thou. Will just keep my current rigs un-touch, the most maybe just sold the 10th anni and get 4GB KVR. drool.gif
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@Ray,512bit? shocking.gif 256bit right? Haha.. Yea! If the pipeline can be unlock that it would be a nice card.
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Oh no typo error. blush.gif Should be 256bits with 512MB. laugh.gif
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Haha! 512bit? That gota be HD2900XT and above. lust.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Oct 15 2008, 05:48 PM)
Asus low end mobo is really crap la. 1Gb of RAM isn't really sufficient for you for decent gaming.2*1Gb RAM is hard to get too,not only the issue to burn wallet. Last PC in Penang,i saw 1GB RAM only selling RM100 per stick.
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the price doesnt justify much now... its too expensive for a 1GB peice..

however i bought mine last time, rm 250 for 1gb so i also burn wallet..

256 bits , 512 ddr2 graphic memory ?!!

thats a nice card.. imagine pipelines unlocked tongue.gif

wonder my card similiar to that card or not , 256bit, 256mb ddr3, 16 pipelines... bought second hand rm800 =.=

i recently played Gears of War on highest settings 1024*768.. im satisfied =.=

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Haha.. Man.. Don compare the old timer gears with current price. Its a big pain on ass. tongue.gif Still remember the old time where 9800XT just fresh from oven? Phew... 1k++ almost similar with current HD4800 or 2xxGT series. Duh.. doh.gif

Btw, Jcsy did u game with windows 2008? Hows the performance?
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its like Vista, but much better and lighter smile.gif

i havent tried heavy games such as company of heroes, crysis and all that but i think it fairs much better than vista in terms of performance and services smile.gif

since 2008 allows u to choose what u wan, u dun get a whole load of junk upon installing, unlike vista biggrin.gif

fresh from the oven 9800 was 1.6k? LOL biggrin.gif
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Woah.. Windows 2008 sounds interesting. Wish to give it a try, but then the evaluation period that offer my Microsoft has ended right? Now user gotta purchase the license already right?

Oh yea.. That was old time story! Haha! Btw, ur running on P4 3.0C Prescott? I thought was classified with E?
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when i made the buy from garage sales, the person put

3.0ghz C Prescott Proc 800 FSB and 1 MB cache

what is the specs of an "E" processor? 800fsb + 1mb cache or clock speed of 3.2 ?

not sure leh.. i was previously using 2.4ghz C Northwood 800 FSB 512k cache biggrin.gif

and yes, windows 2008 gives u 3 days to activate... now gotta buy license key liao tongue.gif

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If its classified as E class means the processor is running on Prescott core. Where C class means the processor were based on Northwood. thats what im curious with ya siggy where 3.0 Prescott with C class. Hybrid ah? laugh.gif

Ic.. Well.. Are u using the license type? Or.. *hem* type? brows.gif Downloading it now. laugh.gif 1Gb plus only.


P.s: Here u go for the specs of P4. icon_rolleyes.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel...microprocessors

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this looks very much like mine ::

Pentium 4 HT 3.0E SL7PM 3000 MHz 1024 KiB 800 MT/s 15× 1.25/1.4 V 89 W Socket 478

mine is definitely L2 - 1024 kb cache

C is all 512 cache, which is defiinitely not mine biggrin.gif

the other 1024 cache is 533 fsb, not like mine 800 biggrin.gif

oh wow, i can change my C to E liao like this biggrin.gif


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regarding the windows 2008, i have company license for that so i can install 1 instance of it anywhere. smile.gif

yup, its about 1.8 gb+

i have microsoft CD's for 32bit & 64bit 2008 but im using 32 bit one..

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Usually Northwood processor only has 512kb cache. The easiest way to determine the core based.
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then im 3.0ghz E loh tongue.gif , right ?

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Dear P4 bros,

i just purchase an HIS X1300 pro 256mb/128bits for my little 4yo rig. I;m on P4P800 but it seem that i get out of sync a.k.a black screen when i boot up. Is the mobo not suit with the card? I saw someone with same spec in this v1 thread too.

Hope those with experience can help a bit. ^^
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Dear P4 bros,

i just purchase an HIS X1300 pro 256mb/128bits for my little 4yo rig. I;m on P4P800 but it seem that i get out of sync a.k.a black screen when i boot up. Is the mobo not suit with the card? I saw someone with same spec in this v1 thread too.

Hope those with experience can help a bit. ^^
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if that is the case, reboot in safe mode and remove the drivers. Then reinstall them to let the driver detect your monitor refresh rate. good luck. wink.gif
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What type of monitor are u using atm? Well, got this kind of problem before where the source of the problem were the refresh rate as what edmin has pointed out. Uninstall the driver at safe mode and try to obtained an older version of driver.
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Thanks for the help. im using samsung CRT type... 3yo i think.

It is during loading window (laoding bar) then blank! Ok i try to uninstall and see what happen.
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Yea. Its like after the windows is finish loaded but yet get into welcome screen right? High chance is caused by the refresh rate.
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boot to safe mode, then set to some common resolutions like 800x600, and 60Hz, then restart...

hope it helps..
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i assumed that you set high resolution + incompatible refresh rates after you got the card , making it like this

do as per above
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boot to safe mode, then set to some common resolutions like 800x600, and 60Hz, then restart...

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QUOTE(TakeshirO @ Oct 16 2008, 07:55 PM)
Dear P4 bros,

i just purchase an HIS X1300 pro 256mb/128bits for my little 4yo rig. I;m on P4P800 but it seem that i get out of sync a.k.a black screen when i boot up. Is the mobo not suit with the card? I saw someone with same spec in this v1 thread too.

Hope those with experience can help a bit. ^^
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Worse comes to worst jus format the whole thing nod.gif
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well that's the last resort if really cant get things right. smile.gif
my uncle formats his pc everytime he changes hardware, espcially those that require driver installation etc.. he doesnt change hardware frequently, so it's pretty ok. this is to avoid any driver conflict or problems i guess.
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Yup,totally agree.The drivers will crash sometimes if you remove any hardware.Wosrt case is only format.
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Haha.. Well.. CRT user need to be caution whenever comes to display card driver. Nowadays those driver are not so friendly to CRT monitor already as the refreshing rate were slightly draw higher, it might cause problem of monitor blank out after new driver is in.

P/s: Just got myself a DFI Infinity P965-S Dark mobo for RM200 as backup board. laugh.gif Going to sent my DS3R out for RMA due lan port been strike by thunder. sad.gif

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my acer 17" lcd also goes blank if wrong settings are selected....

like what ppl said here, change setting via safemode...

my 17" can only run 640x480 and 1280x1024 laugh.gif laugh.gif


abit off topic.... just received my dell latitude e6400 lappy.... tongue.gif biggrin.gif

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cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

Just finish reformat my rig, partition corrupt make busy whole night

Now reinstall all the program and game rclxub.gif
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Ya LCD cannot do 1024*768 res? That quite strange. What ur LCD refresh rate? Mine can either do 60hz / 75hz.


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Haha.. Make an image for ur system. Next time just recover back will do, dun nid to reformat.
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haha, i guess can join this thread as well.
my home still got one old pc, p4 1.8ghz william, not even able to overclock, using 9550 ati 256mb, even play dota also will lag= =
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use wat to make image norton ghost?
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norton ghost

acronis

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Can norton ghost support RAID recovery? AFAIK, acronis can. But ain't sure about norton.
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what do u mean by RAID recovery?

two hard disks (on raid) which was logically recognized as 1, being imaged by acronis ?

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Yea. Image recovery for RAID array. Wander will norton ghost works for it not.
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Yea. Its like after the windows is finish loaded but yet get into welcome screen right? High chance is caused by the refresh rate.
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Very helpful you guys! Done boot in safe mode and change resolution etc etc. it seem like refresh problem but no matter how i change the refresh rate it still black screen if i go higher than than 640 x 800. I decided to return the card le.. no hope.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 17 2008, 11:54 PM)
@ravewar
Ya LCD cannot do 1024*768 res? That quite strange. What ur LCD refresh rate? Mine can either do 60hz / 75hz.
same here....can also only do 60hz/75hz.

but now running 75hz.

my lcd is a repaired unit.....sent to repair it...a coupla years back...didn't check other res when i got it back.... doh.gif

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Yea. Image recovery for RAID array. Wander will norton ghost works for it not.
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why use norton when acronis can do it smile.gif

lol i never use norton after finding acronis

has never failed to image servers, desktop, laptop
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any one here using 2600 XT agp?

I seem like have driver problem with my card. always hang while runing my online game perfect world

Wat version of CCC u all using?

Currently i check the driver version in device manger is 8.5xx 20/08/2008 one
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did you try some newer or older versions of catalyst driver?
coz i experinced before, new drivers don't always work. my bro's pc when used the latest drivers got BSOD appear after some time, after revert to older version no more already.
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hmm i think i go try download 8.6 ccc and try hard to find nows day dam
now using 8.9 hotfix
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im also using 8.5xx

i dont bother upgrading unless i am sure its going 2 help my performance smile.gif

if it gives problems, i wont bother... dont touch things that are already working tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Oct 19 2008, 08:07 PM)
any one here using 2600 XT agp?

I seem like have driver problem with my card. always hang while runing my online game perfect world

Wat version of CCC u all using?

Currently i check the driver version in device manger is 8.5xx 20/08/2008 one
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yeah, many have problems with CCC. even my bro's one also. keep having probs with the vpu recover thingy. i see some people rather just have the driver installed only.
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Ur playing perfect world? laugh.gif

Guys, just give a survey on the pc shop near my house last night. Seems like LCD's is getting cheaper now eh. BenQ G900W only RM469! 19' thou.. Phew! Last time this model is 5xx.. Drop around 100!
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QUOTE(dlwl @ Oct 20 2008, 09:59 AM)
yeah, many have problems with CCC. even my bro's one also. keep having probs with the vpu recover thingy. i see some people rather just have the driver installed only.
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i already posted this in the past versions of this thread. Install drivers only and use Ray Adam's ATI Tray Tool, best solution for all. CCC? crap as far as i know. laugh.gif

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CCC is really crap and resource hungry. especially on our limited cpu power and ram...

normally i just install the vanilla driver only(for my axp2k with R9550). if want oc or tweaking, i use ati tray like Ed mentioned. wink.gif


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@fylon
BenQ G900W only RM469??? Time to grab one soon already..LG W1942T RM499 at lyp pricelist..

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agreed. Catalyst Crap Center..kinda regret a bit that i got an ati for my bro's pc..problems here and there..lucky now no more already. probably that's why all my graphic cards have been nvidia so far..
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Yea. Saw that on the local shop at my place. Its around 499-469 la. Haha.. But duno the price for LYN. The price is freaking cheap.
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yeah...my eyes nearly popped out when i saw the pricelist..laugh.giflaugh.gif
i guess they wanna start pushing in HD LCD monitors already.
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Hehe.. For normal user like us, a normal LCD will do. brows.gif Maybe in another 3-6months 24' for 499! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 20 2008, 10:38 AM)
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Ur playing perfect world? laugh.gif

Guys, just give a survey on the pc shop near my house last night. Seems like LCD's is getting cheaper now eh. BenQ G900W only RM469! 19' thou.. Phew! Last time this model is 5xx.. Drop around 100!
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LCD prices are dropping like stone wei...

you should check out the 22" LCDs...prices are slightly more than 19" LCDs...better go 22"
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yeah...saw the comparison between 19" and 22" at a shop that day...not much difference also..from far you might see that the 19" looks like 22". but some circumstances don't permit me to get 22"..haha..if not i sure get already..
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Haha.. Go for 24'' instead. lust.gif Anyways, when go for high res LCD gaming, i guess not much agp can handle it. Unless all the setting is middle low / low. sweat.gif Cut off all the candy eyes.
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24" lcds are definitely better, but the price is still high, unfortunately.

IMHO agp would still be able to take it la...depends on the rams only la...hehehe
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Haha.. Case is different if ur GC is mid range like 7600GT or X1650XT and above. Old sch like 9550 or 9250 will suffer big pain on ass with go for high res. Do remember, not much agp are using mid range agp card as the price is killing. icon_rolleyes.gif
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if for normal internet browsing and reading mails, etc..definately the old agp cards can still support. but it's a no-no for gaming. even tho play at lowest settings/reso, imagine how the game is gonna turned out. everything streched coz not plaing at the monitor's native reso. and not to mention the graphic will be bad too. i guess that's gonna turn off your mood for gaming laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ravewar @ Oct 20 2008, 03:27 PM)
24" lcds are definitely better, but the price is still high, unfortunately.

IMHO agp would still be able to take it la...depends on the rams only la...hehehe
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if for normal internet browsing and reading mails, etc..definately the old agp cards can still support. but it's a no-no for gaming. even tho play at lowest settings/reso, imagine how the game is gonna turned out. everything streched coz not plaing at the monitor's native reso. and not to mention the graphic will be bad too. i guess that's gonna turn off your mood for gaming laugh.gif
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i have to disagree. gaming stretched due to not playing at native reso? get the facts right. widescreen gaming can be entertaining even without running at lcd native res. as you know, widescreen have 16:10 and 16:9, for normal is 4:3 ratio. If your system cannot support native resolution due to bottlenecks, just lower the resolution, maintaining the ratio! An example, normal 19" resolution is 1440x900, you can still have an enjoyable experience running games @ 1280x800 perfectly, or even lower than that (provided the resolution ratio maintains at 16:10).

Even in newer games like HL2 and latest Tomb Raider, you can adjust the game look normal even @ 4:3 resolution by selecting 'widescreen' option, it will normalize the displayed image.

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By the way when talk about gaming on high res with bigger screen, GC memory bandwidth does effect the game play right? will a normal 128mb card with 128bit sufficient for 22' or 24'c LCD? I think it is enough right..
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@edmin,
wooopps...sorry blush.gif thnx for correcting me. i really didn't know about that. i thought that if run at normal 4:3 ratio it will become stretched! but not all games have that option rite?
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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 20 2008, 05:08 PM)
By the way when talk about gaming on high res with bigger screen, GC memory bandwidth does effect the game play right? will a normal 128mb card with 128bit sufficient for 22' or 24'c LCD? I think it is enough right..
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enough. depends on games requirement, u can run quite well actually. running movies, as long as dedicated vga, sure no issue.

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wooopps...sorry blush.gif thnx for correcting me. i really didn't know about that. i thought that if run at normal 4:3 ratio it will become stretched! but not all games have that option rite?
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yea, not all have the normalisation of 4:3 for widescreen ratio aspect. but u can always set to a lower resolution that is 16:10 ratio. thumbup.gif

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spotted a ATi HD2600XT AGP at garage sales, quite a nice price also. i think it's a great card for those who still wanna play the latest games on their p4 smile.gif
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QUOTE(dlwl @ Oct 20 2008, 09:59 AM)
yeah, many have problems with CCC. even my bro's one also. keep having probs with the vpu recover thingy. i see some people rather just have the driver installed only.
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I face the face problem also.CCC=Crap Crap Crap

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@Ray
Ur playing perfect world? laugh.gif

Guys, just give a survey on the pc shop near my house last night. Seems like LCD's is getting cheaper now eh. BenQ G900W only RM469! 19' thou.. Phew! Last time this model is 5xx.. Drop around 100!
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No need play the game,i play C&C 3 also kena already.

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i already posted this in the past versions of this thread. Install drivers only and use Ray Adam's ATI Tray Tool, best solution for all. CCC? crap as far as i know.  laugh.gif
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I use Omega driver now.So far still ok for the stupid ATI GC.
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I face the face problem also.CCC=Crap Crap Crap
No need play the game,i play C&C 3 also kena already.
I use Omega driver now.So far still ok for the stupid ATI GC.
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i welcome you to donate your 'stupid' ATI GC to me anytime, i can bear the postage, lol brows.gif
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LOL! Grab the 2600XT that dlwl mentioned and then sell ur crappy card to edmin. laugh.gif
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i welcome you to donate your 'stupid' ATI GC to me anytime, i can bear the postage, lol  brows.gif
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If i donate to you then i will have no more GC already.I have the spoiled one but scrapped already. laugh.gif

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LOL! Grab the 2600XT that dlwl mentioned and then sell ur crappy card to edmin. laugh.gif
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laugh.giflaugh.gif like edmin, i also dun mind if got pl wiling to donate hardware to me..maybe switch to 7300GT/7600GS perhaps ray? nvidia's drivers more stable..
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Haha.. Pity ray didnt grab up my 76GT that time when i migrate, if he does i think now is got addicted to gaming. tongue.gif
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now i find out not my ati problem probably my hard disk problem

scan with seetool seagate hardisk got 3 error need send for RMA T_T

No comp use liao.....

I think to buy new hard disk 1st than sell the old one when back from RMA.

Ar..................
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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 20 2008, 05:08 PM)
By the way when talk about gaming on high res with bigger screen, GC memory bandwidth does effect the game play right? will a normal 128mb card with 128bit sufficient for 22' or 24'c LCD? I think it is enough right..
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im still wondering how to run gaming on any high settings?

in game high settings on my rig on many of the latest FPS games are killing

anything beyond 1280x1024 is already crazy on my 17"

on higher resolution LCD, thats just suicide? im very sure my GC does not fair far from some of the latest AGP cards(higher priced) but , how to game on 22" / 24 " using AGP ?

low low low ? unsure.gif

i rather high high high 1024x768. rclxub.gif
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Haha.. I thought that like edmin says, it depend on the game requirement. But for me, i think that is quite for new game which 128mb/128bit card can hold it. Especially old school card.

Just like what u mentioned, LOW LOW LOW then can play on high res LCD lo.
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QUOTE(dlwl @ Oct 21 2008, 12:00 AM)
laugh.giflaugh.gif like edmin, i also dun mind if got pl wiling to donate hardware to me..maybe switch to 7300GT/7600GS perhaps ray? nvidia's drivers more stable..
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Haha,if i have spare one and really doesn't need to use anymore then i might donate. tongue.gif

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Haha.. Pity ray didnt grab up my 76GT that time when i migrate, if he does i think now is got addicted to gaming. tongue.gif
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Er...that's possible. Now with my gc i only play CS 1.6 and C&C 3 only.

Added on October 21, 2008, 8:52 amI see some of you are interest to get the large LCD screen for gaming? ph34r.gif

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For me, big LCD for moveee!! lust.gif I got tons of widescreen movies but the watching experience is limited by my old 17' full screen LCD. laugh.gif Wide screen gaming will just burning holes on wallet.. For me, 19' will the perfect fits as i dun really like big screen.

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Whats wrong with ur HDD?
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For me, big LCD for moveee!! lust.gif I got tons of widescreen movies but the watching experience is limited by my old 17' full screen LCD. laugh.gif Wide screen gaming will just burning holes on wallet.. For me, 19' will the perfect fits as i dun really like big screen.
tiru lah macam saya. 19" for workstation and 24" for entertainment, dual LCD setup, sure rclxm9.gif

now everynite watch few episodes of Heroes Season 1 in my room using the 24" thumbup.gif

gaming in hi quality? I do, in certain games like CnC3, HL2/CSS using source engine, UT3, just to name some of it. DMC4 I game on medium/high settings.
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Lol.. Moneh not allow me to tiru eh! sad.gif By then, for me, might probably 19' for entertainment and 17' for workstation. As i prefer small screen for working enviroment. laugh.gif

Gaming? Last time on P4 + 76GT for C&C3 doing quite well thou. High set for all if im not mistaken. But still will suffer when got tons of unit running on the screen. laugh.gif

O/T: Heroes? I finish S1 and S2 already.. Now catching S3! lust.gif So as Sarah Chronicle S2!

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dual screen setup is really cool for me. tried it once with my friend's lcd. i think i might go for a 19" too..very tempted to get 22" with prices so darn cheap now. but my hostel a bit inconvinient, have to shift rooms every semester. so have to minimize my stuff. btw, between dual 17" setup and one 19" widescreen, which one you would choose?
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dlwl,just get the decent 19" inches wide screen.Now 17" inches is not popular already.
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yeah...you got a point there. wonder how much my LCD is worth now? bought just slightly over a year ago..i'm eyeing LG W1942T now..
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Hehe.. If the 17' is widescreen the another story. laugh.gif Rarely to see 17' wide but its a good one. Atleast for me.. blush.gif
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nah..mine's the normal non-widescreen one. seldom see 17" widescreen but they do seem to be coming out more and more now. even samsung also have 17" wide already. last time so hard to find.
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Haha.. Same here. My LQ1780Q is a full screen thou. I like 17' wide alot actually.. Damn nice! lust.gif Love it...

Off topic abit: Just invest another 2GB for my ultimate machine.. Time to move on Windows Server 2008! lust.gif See hows the OS perform with 4GB of ram.

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for some reason, most of the latest games i cant even high high high them

I have to med med high most of the games.. i'm talking about major games such as Crysis, Company of Heroes, C&CKW, COD , NFS etc etc biggrin.gif

This one also some 1280x1024 which looks great on 17" but anything lower is just painful for the eyes biggrin.gif

i wonder what games are played for you guys then if you guys can put high high high for everything
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Lol.. Edmin is he one around here that still playing games.. We should wait for his reply regarding to gaming issues. laugh.gif


P/s: Some nice sh*t for AGP user.. lust.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=20812033

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Lol.. Edmin is he one around here that still playing games.. We should wait for his reply regarding to gaming issues. laugh.gif
P/s: Some nice sh*t for AGP user.. lust.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=20812033
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nice sh*t ?lol...the 6600GT is damn cheap..RM80 only...
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LOL! Yea.. The price is shocking la.. Ray, heart itchy? RM80 only ehh... That card is much more powerful then ya current 9550... Grab and sell ur 9550 to edmin. laugh.gif
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Yup,after i grab the 6600GT sure will sell to edmin with cheap price. My current 9550 has Cool Viva equiped with. tongue.gif

Added on October 21, 2008, 4:43 pmP/s: It's not only more powerful than my 9550,but also FX5900 also.

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Yup,after i grab the 6600GT sure will sell to edmin with cheap price. My current 9550 has Cool Viva equiped with.  tongue.gif

Added on October 21, 2008, 4:43 pmP/s: It's not only more powerful than my 9550,but also FX5900 also.
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ray, we r so good frenz u still wan 2 sell meh? free gift saja lahh.... kekekeke laugh.gif
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laugh.gif fylon also asked me to sell you.Haha,i give you special price on the 9550 la ok?
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Oct 21 2008, 04:47 PM)
laugh.gif fylon also asked me to sell you.Haha,i give you special price on the 9550 la ok?
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My HDD got problem, reading and writing no smooth will freeze sometimes
Send back for warranty.

Now buy new Western D 160 GB using. Will sold tat one when back from RMA
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Finally the forum is up. sweat.gif

@Ray
So ur on ur hand to grab the 6600GT? Congratz man.. RM80 eh! Sell ur 9550 @ RM100 u still earn 20buck back for drink teh C peng. drool.gif

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Eh? Sold ur old school lappy already ah? Then now wanna get mini 9 as replacement? brows.gif
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seriously dude, 9550 is garbage liao biggrin.gif

the 6600 GT is damn worth it buy...
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ya i also no date to sell mine 6600GT at that price for sure is i want to sell at hundred plus
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Lol.. 6600GT definitely better then 9550. Its SM3.0 somemore.. Can play of the game around thou with low low low (sacrificing eye candy) or midium low medium.. laugh.gif

O/T: Cant wait my new board and new ram kit come.. lust.gif Handy quite itchy already.. drool.gif
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Hi guy i got serious problem here need u all advice

CUrrently my P4 rig very weird.

If normal running.... my pc have nothing problem.

But when i loading 3d game.... my pc hang after few minute loading.

I test with 2 different gc card and both give me same result

When using 6600GT problem come few minute after load 3d game
when using 2600XT problem come directly after load 3d game

It is possible my M.B. KO already or PSU isue? i am using 450W PSU normal one (not very cheap cap ayam one la)

i got try run prime95 for short period no show any sign my system will hang.

Ar...................................
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@bai1101
Care to elaborate more about ur case? What type of hang? BSOD? System restart? Only when ur system on load then the weird thing happen? hmm.gif Most probably is powah not enough.

Are ur display card required extra powah?
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no BSOD or wat it just like direct freeze at there. mouse also can't move.

Just now i try watch anime only also hang swt.

But leave idle no seem have any problem.

i been using the 6600gt for over half year already now only show power no enough ><? If PSU KO than i still ok. If MB i will headache go where find replacement. Hai...........
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haha..it's ok ler, just pulling your leg, kacau kacau u only. sure you can get good price if u advertise in garage sales, good luck bro!  icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 22 2008, 12:41 AM)
Finally the forum is up. sweat.gif

@Ray
So ur on ur hand to grab the 6600GT? Congratz man.. RM80 eh! Sell ur 9550 @ RM100 u still earn 20buck back for drink teh C peng. drool.gif

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Eh? Sold ur old school lappy already ah? Then now wanna get mini 9 as replacement? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Oct 22 2008, 12:43 AM)
seriously dude, 9550 is garbage liao biggrin.gif

the 6600 GT is damn worth it buy...
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@Ray
No worried man.. Maybe the seller still sleeping ma! Haha.. Wish u luck to get the GC. RM80 really nice deal! laugh.gif

6600GT is slightly better in term of technology used, but performance i think x800 still leading eh?

P/s: My P4 2.4Ghz got boosted to 3.0Ghz.. laugh.gif Eh.. Anyone know the default vcore for northwood? The system is running on default vcore atm, where vGAP and vdimm has been increase by 0.1v. Can feel the different with stock spd and OC spd when doing work. Imagine an excel file with 20k data.. sweat.gif

Added on October 22, 2008, 9:11 am@bai1101
Did the screen flick before hang?

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no flick but u can saw the graphic stuck a while, than run against than stuck against. After ward direct hang.

U also heard the sound running than jam jam jam Hang.
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Haha.. Quite similar with my previous case on my office P4. Probably the case like what edmin mentioned before. Ya house current is having brownout but ur PSU cannot take the charge changed in a sudden. My problem solved once after swap a new PSU. How was ur PSU?

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@bai1101
few things you can try here:

-have you check your voltage?? use speedfan or other utility to see the 3.3v, 5V and 12v. see it fluctuate or not. check the cpu, gc and mb temp as well.

-try set to default speed and try it again. if your mobo can adjust the agp voltage?? your gc may draw more power than 66gt.

-you say you prime but stable, what is the priority?? set it to 7+ and wait for 30min++, default priority is 0 or 1 if not mistaken tongue.gif

-lastly is maybe your driver problem, previous driver is nvidia and now you using ati. prev driver may conflict with newer 1.

hope can help.... wink.gif

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Haha.. Why not give a test on intel burn test? That beast 2 mins priming is enough for finding the error for OC ady.
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intel burn test i thought is onli for s775. hahaha... i better go read info about it... hahaha...

Edited: just read the instructions.... seems a great tools for fast testing. thanks, fylon. wink.gif

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i am running prime95 for over 4 hours aready. system still ok.

PSU i guess i will try laterr.

driver should not been issue since i got use driver cleaner clean all the diver before i install new one.

i hope is PSU problem.

i also worry MB problem. cause i got run ram test on my pc and it always hang on half. but when i swap to another pc it run ram test perfectly
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No no... IBT can on run old school rigs as well. Here the benchies... lust.gif Hand quite itchy liao.. OC abit abit. tongue.gif Push my working rigs from 2.4Gh to 3.0Gh today, but keep got restarting issues. i guess vcore not enough. So down to 2.8Gh and run IBT. Anyone care to tell me the save vcore for Northwood?

Leve 1 is max stress laugh.gif And i found that, IBT seems like only utilized the virtual core (correct me if im wrong).

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Whats ur prime setting? Did ur rigs on OC mode? Hm.. IF mobo issues then u gona prepare liao.. doh.gif I guess should me the PSU.. Whats ur voltage reading? Try get the screen shot from speed fan.

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i know that already, after download it i read the instruction got mention about old cpu also can run. hahaha..... i mixed up with coretemp already, my bad. tongue.gif

if not wrong, 1.6v should be quite save.... some hardcore northy ocer even push till 1.8-1.9v @_@"

well.... i never go beyond 1.6v... cause my pity p4p800x only have 1.6v vcore highest. sad.gif
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Lol.. IBT really burn the procs eh... My rigs got around 12 degree temp rise during priming. At aircon room usually is 28-30'c for my system but once it got BURN, temp is around 40-42'c..

Seems like P4P8x has better OC setting.. In bios P4P8x can have vcore range up to 1.85v if im not mistaken. laugh.gif
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haha... aiming for mini9 liao??? it seems so sweet to me. drool.gif to bad i out of $$ sad.gif
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seems sweet... but like u also... $$$ hahaha... it is a good netbook! buy buy buy...

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Lol.. IBT really burn the procs eh... My rigs got around 12 degree temp rise during priming. At aircon room usually is 28-30'c for my system but once it got BURN, temp is around 40-42'c..

Seems like P4P8x has better OC setting.. In bios P4P8x can have vcore range up to 1.85v if im not mistaken. laugh.gif
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the 6600GT is a 128 bit 128 ram card

the X800 is a 256 bit and 256 ram card

technically the X800 is almost on par with 12 pipelines against the 6600GT.

my X800 is 16 pipelines which helps better.... my card is comparable to a 6800NU.

on benchmark tests, loses out to 6800GT. On my personal experience, 6600 is a great fight to X800 but with a mix of experience, I can show you benchies and my benchies are rather higher smile.gif
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Haha.. But for old schools, gaming experience is far important than benchies right?

Pity windows XP only able to detect 3.5G / 4G ram.. Time to move on vista!
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@fylon,default vcore for northwood is 1.525v.If pump up to 1.6v is still safe,do not put 1.7v. Your problem in detecting only 3.5GB is because of 32bits Windows enviroment.You can swtich to 64bits and see.

Jcsy,x800 with 12pl is almost par with 6600GT. I perfer 6600GT > than x800.
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Hi anyone having problem running video h.264 on pentium 4 ? very lag on it.
Pentium 4 3.0ghz
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any help ?
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Yea.. Just done house keeping. Haha.. laugh.gif Time to migrate.. Grabbed an old version of blink blink tracer. Using 2nd generation of BH-5 chip.

Ya prefer nvidia cos the driver issues?
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Your lucky you lag. I hang, not lag while playing h.264 vids.
P4 northwood 2.4GHz
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the problem is both cpu and gc.
if gc better like 3850, still can play with p4, but if gc like yours, all the work is on the proc, not gc.
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HD video still use old GC??? it'll be a real surprise if it doesn't lag...

get at least a GeForce 7 or Radeon X1000...
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Hi anyone having problem running video h.264 on pentium 4 ? very lag on it.
Pentium 4 3.0ghz
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What codec are you using?

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Yea.. Just done house keeping. Haha.. laugh.gif Time to migrate.. Grabbed an old version of blink blink tracer. Using 2nd generation of BH-5 chip.

Ya prefer nvidia cos the driver issues?
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Your lucky you lag. I hang, not lag while playing h.264 vids.
P4 northwood 2.4GHz
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the problem is both cpu and gc.
if gc better like 3850, still can play with p4, but if gc like yours, all the work is on the proc, not gc.
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Lag and hang are 2 different situations. I don't believe 2.4GHz northy can't play h.264 movies.

QUOTE(astria @ Oct 22 2008, 09:35 PM)
HD video still use old GC??? it'll be a real surprise if it doesn't lag...

get at least a GeForce 7 or Radeon X1000...
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Added on October 22, 2008, 10:00 pm@fylon,the old school BH-5 for your company P4 ? brows.gif

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what lar, geforce 7 series not assisting in HD decoding at all...

if lag, check your codecs, .720p (1280x720) H264 can play super well with no skipped frames on my P4 Mobile 2.0Ghz with 512MB RAM (running the file consumes 70-90% cpu processing). So if it can't run well on your wonderful P4 2.4, surely some other things are causing it...

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Din manage to get the card? So sad.. But well, recently there are alot of EOL item on sales! Dun give up man.. Sure there will be second chance. laugh.gif

Yea. Running Vsita x64 now.. Finally ram are fully optimized. Hm.. Nop! DDR2 punya BH-5.. D9GMH! Haha.. That gem can do from 667 boost to 1200 without sweat.
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@Ray
Din manage to get the card? So sad.. But well, recently there are alot of EOL item on sales! Dun give up man.. Sure there will be second chance. laugh.gif

Yea. Running Vsita x64 now.. Finally ram are fully optimized. Hm.. Nop! DDR2 punya BH-5.. D9GMH! Haha.. That gem can do from 667 boost to 1200 without sweat.
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Haha.. Yea! quite alot o EOL item on sales. I got my DFI P965-S for RM200.. The best 965 mobo ever.. Can do BSEL without mod the processor. Hehe..

O/T: Yea.. D9GMH can hit almost 2x of its stock speed without sweat.. Haha!
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at last solve my problem. the stupid PSU corrupt my primary partition against make me busy whole night reinstall window.

Now using cap palang PSU. need funding to buy new better PSU against hai..............

Lucky is no my MB thanks GOD !!!!!
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bai,is time for you to get a true power series PSU.Invest 1 unit and you will feel worth on it.
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Haha... Same case as my office rigs. laugh.gif PSU always give the abnormal problem..
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i aa thinking buying hutkey green star.

Cause silverstone and CM real power all is price at RM 3xx.

And i also need a avr i think. my house voltage no really stable now day, can feel it on my CRT.

How much AVR cost ar?
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Oct 23 2008, 09:49 AM)
i aa thinking buying hutkey green star.

Cause silverstone and CM real power all is price at RM 3xx.

And i also need a avr i think. my house voltage no really stable now day, can feel it on my CRT.

How much AVR cost ar?
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P/S: silverstone got RM150-RM170 range.

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Huntkey psu not bad also right? The price quite reasonable as well.. laugh.gif
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yeah, very good psu for that price. i'm using it on my c2d rig, running 24/7, never turned off for weeks already. the fan is also very silent, like there's no fan there.
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AVR cost how much now day?
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Thought AVR issues were mentioned before? I think few post back. wink.gif Its around 70-100. Depend on model and brand. Recommended will be APC or KOSS.
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what  lar, geforce 7 series not assisting in HD decoding at all...

if lag, check your codecs, .720p (1280x720) H264 can play super well with no skipped frames on my P4 Mobile 2.0Ghz with 512MB RAM (running the file consumes 70-90% cpu processing). So if it can't run well on your wonderful P4 2.4, surely some other things are causing it...
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use CoreAVC to solve the problem....
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The 6600GT really reserved by somebody already. wink.gif Guess need to hunt for the next already.
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use CoreAVC to solve the problem....
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hi all,

i did some oc,
but i get the ram speed at 2.5-5-5-15

RAM Speed : (5:4) @ 2.5-5-5-15

how to do it at 2.5-3-3-8 / any lower than 2.5-5-5-15 ?

im using 2 x 512MB (PC3200)
proc is P4 800FSB

thanks!
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Oct 23 2008, 04:34 PM)
The 6600GT really reserved by somebody already. wink.gif Guess need to hunt for the next already.
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=817327&hl=

but expect more than RM 1xx la
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what mobo are u using?
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@ray,
i saw many other agp cards on sale. include the monster 7900GS too if you want laugh.gif
you looking for nvidia cards only?

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ray this might interest you brows.gif

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Ray is aiming for 6600GT which is below 100.. whistling.gif But just pity he is 2 secs later and the good offer been snatched.
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QUOTE(ColourShadow @ Oct 23 2008, 05:32 PM)
hi all,

i did some oc,
but i get the ram speed at 2.5-5-5-15

RAM Speed : (5:4) @ 2.5-5-5-15

how to do it at 2.5-3-3-8 / any lower than 2.5-5-5-15 ?

im using 2 x 512MB (PC3200)
proc is P4 800FSB

thanks!
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How come your RAM set at so high letency? I've never seen 2.5-5-5-15...The loosest i can get is 3-3-3-8 only sweat.gif

@bai and dlwl,fylon is correct.Aiming on 6600GT with < RM100.The 7900GS is a nice unit if have $ to invest.
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how about the galaxy 6600gt bid? so far i see bid until rm50 only..
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how about the galaxy 6600gt bid? so far i see bid until rm50 only..
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Warranty: 3 days testing. Just test all you want. Reason providing such a short time is because the last time i got
cheated. The product was working fine, then dunno what the person do, spoilt it then become my fault.

No warranty for OC or other mishandling.

Pls read the item condition first.
sweat.gif Condition seems like not so good.
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hmm.gif i also saw that the seller is experiencing some heat issues with the card when playing games. guess maybe that's why it's sold by bidding style, or sold very cheap.
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raymond,

my x800 unlock 16 pipelines tongue.gif

last time i could have bought 6600gt but felt that x800 was more powerful smile.gif slightly on a 6800 side tongue.gif
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6 series card use to have heat issues.. Even my old 68GT on idle is around 6x'c... When load near 80'c.. sweat.gif

2.5-5-5-15 seems like the time is for DDR2 and its quite weird for DDR anyways, that what im asking ColourShadow what mobo are he using. whistling.gif
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luckily my x800 36C on idle, about 55C on full load for long gaming periods

i love what HIS has done with the card smile.gif
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my 6600 gt also, when load can reach 7x

but after modify with custom cooler load only 5x idle 4x
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my default ram speed is 2.5-4-4-8 without OC...

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i also dunno why...
im using the Ai Booster to OC...
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@colourshadow,your mobo is using LGA775 one with DDR1 on board right?Try not to use Ai Booster to o/c.Use manual .
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wah, colourshadow,

ur signature is what movie / game ?

[the bottom right item]
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QUOTE(dlwl @ Oct 23 2008, 11:07 PM)
hmm.gif i also saw that the seller is experiencing some heat issues with the card when playing games. guess maybe that's why it's sold by bidding style, or sold very cheap.
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I'm ot confidence with the condition on the card,so not planning to get it. sweat.gif Some Galaxy last time in 6 series wasn't very popular.

QUOTE(Jcsy @ Oct 23 2008, 11:44 PM)
raymond,

my x800 unlock 16 pipelines tongue.gif

last time i could have bought 6600gt but felt that x800 was more powerful smile.gif slightly on a 6800 side tongue.gif
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Erm...16pipelines are nice but remember X800 is only SM2.0 supported,not 3.0. No matter how many pipeplines you unlock,i bet you can't play SM3.0 games nicely with your card.
ravewar
post Oct 24 2008, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Oct 24 2008, 08:27 AM)
wah, colourshadow,

ur signature is what movie / game ?

[the bottom right item]
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Oooo....that someone holding a big sword and slashing 2 monsters.....I oso wanna know....hehehhe biggrin.gif
fylon
post Oct 24 2008, 09:50 AM

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Haha.. LG775 P4 belongs to here? doh.gif

Anyways, the about the siggy, if im not mistaken its from warcraft trailler. Din u see the Orc? brows.gif

Get the highest end of AGP card, 79GS or ATI1950 series sure can last u for another few years in gaming. icon_rolleyes.gif
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