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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V7<<,, The Journey Continues Here!

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bai1101
post Mar 31 2009, 09:32 AM

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if u are Prescott core......... aluminium HSF can't handle it.

I try before........ shoot till 8x when i just running war3
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post Mar 31 2009, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Mar 31 2009, 09:32 AM)
if u are Prescott core......... aluminium HSF can't handle it.

I try before........ shoot till 8x when i just running war3
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I tried with 3.0GHz Prescott,max temp is about 65+ degree C with Orthos running.
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post Mar 31 2009, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Mar 31 2009, 09:54 AM)
I tried with 3.0GHz Prescott,max temp is about 65+ degree C with Orthos running.
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yes, correct. something has gone very wrong with temp over 70C. better re-check the setup.
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post Mar 31 2009, 10:11 AM

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well, i guess over applying thermal paste issnt a problem now

but probably i need 2 clean it off and reapply again to see its difference

problem is i dowan 2 fix something that is working and ok

i mean, it doesnt throttle and i have no problems with it

dont fix whats not broken, lol biggrin.gif
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post Mar 31 2009, 10:57 AM

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now bai's problem not yet being solved.

have to find the source of the problem. that temp is crazy. even my gc also not that hot. hmm.gif

@bai
how is the airflow in your casing? if cacing alot crawling here there then its time for you tidy up them. try get a stand fan blow to it. tongue.gif
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post Mar 31 2009, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 31 2009, 10:57 AM)
now bai's problem not yet being solved.

have to find the source of the problem. that temp is crazy. even my gc also not that hot. hmm.gif

@bai
how is the airflow in your casing? if cacing alot crawling here there then its time for you tidy up them. try get a stand fan blow to it. tongue.gif
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Is last time problem nope now. Now i using big giant HSF to solve my overheat issue tongue.gif

it the HSF problem, i try 3 HSF before

1. Intel alu HSF temp very high
2. Intel Alu with copper core HSF temp between 7x when full load w/o apply thermal paste
3. Deep cool Ice tower with thermal Paste 6x Full load with 5% OC

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post Mar 31 2009, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Mar 31 2009, 11:18 AM)
it the HSF problem, i try 3 HSF before

1. Intel alu HSF temp very high
2. Intel Alu with copper core HSF temp between 7x when full load w/o apply thermal paste
3. Deep cool Ice tower with thermal Paste 6x Full load with 5% OC
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Is it something wrong with the sensor?Do you try to touch the heatsink with your finger?
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post Mar 31 2009, 12:35 PM

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with that giant hfs atill >60C is abit high IMO. sometime if the hot air in your casing stay for too long, it will warm up the hfs and "reheat" back to cpu
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post Mar 31 2009, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 31 2009, 12:35 PM)
with that giant hfs atill >60C is abit high IMO. sometime if the hot air in your casing stay for too long, it will warm up the hfs and "reheat" back to cpu
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You are right,there is a possibility of it.
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post Mar 31 2009, 01:28 PM

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@bai1101
With giant cooler and the temp is still around 60 during full load is abit over. My previous P4 setup not much diff with yours beside my PSU were planted outside of the casing. Its very pack as well, but my temp never goes more then 60'c on 100% stress/blend. The most is 55-57'c.

Did u try to touch the HSF? How was it? Can cook egg? laugh.gif

1. Sensor faulty
2. Thermal grease problems (too much, too less, bad quality type)
3. HSF in not properly sitted / placed
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post Mar 31 2009, 01:36 PM

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@fylon,i guess the sensor is faulty.My sensor isn't giving me an accurate reading though.
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post Mar 31 2009, 01:40 PM

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@Ray
Yea. That is what im thinking off as well.. But only can clarify the problem if bai touched the HSF. Haha.. Like what used to happen to 1st batch Q6600. The processor internal temp sensor never show the accurate temp. Temp can go below -0'c. laugh.gif
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post Mar 31 2009, 01:42 PM

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@fylon,there is such a case?How come i don't know?
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@Ray
Yea.. It was. Is the internal chip sensor having problem. Where it will read more / less then the actual one. Very funny. I think is the ES version that has this problem.

P/s: Saw the article before long time ago.. But dont mange to dig it out. sad.gif

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post Mar 31 2009, 02:05 PM

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no sure i got touch the heatsink few time when idle........ doesn't few like 4x for me la.....

Bad air flow for my casing is possible. Dont know thermol meter can test it or not.

BTW when using Intel original alu HSF i sure it is Overheated cause all my program lag when it hot lol

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post Mar 31 2009, 02:22 PM

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ive tried 100% cpu load with no casing liao

can work without throttling

now only know prescott so damn hot , lol
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post Apr 1 2009, 09:00 AM

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Any plan to change to better heatsink fan?
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post Apr 1 2009, 09:03 AM

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TT TRUE 120 Extreme.. laugh.gif Guarantee solved the problem. rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 1 2009, 12:49 PM

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I have an old Acer Aspire EL (which is based on Acer Veriton VT7200 model) and I intend to do some "crazy and pointless" upgrades sweat.gif

Specs:
-- "Willamette" Pentium 4 @ 1.5 GHz (socket 423) 400MHz FSB - quite a vintage!
-- 3 x 512MB PC133 non-registered non-ECC Kingston SDRAM
-- 160GB IDE HDD
-- Motherboard only supports AGP 4x

Recently, I bought SAPPHIRE HD 3850 512MB GDDR3 AGP (priced at above RM400) to replace Nvidia Geforce FX 5500 256MB AGP.

"The full potential of this card being held back by the obsolete processor" tongue.gif
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...=1&limitstart=1

"Grade C: Probably run games" tongue.gif
"I would count on the 512MB to 1.5GB range for lag-free game play." tongue.gif
http://icrontic.com/articles/gaming_system...or_casual_gamer

HD 3850 needs a direct power supply from PSU (I haven't figured out the Watt value of that Acer desktop PC yet). But, it runs well after installing the ATI driver (CCC 8.4) provided together with the card in Windows XP. The card is too long and I had to remove the HDD mounting bay and repositioned all my HDD to other locations inside the desktop casing.

The thing I haven't done is to set the AGP aperture in the BIOS (S81M). Probably due to a bigger video memory (512MB GDDR3) and a limited system memory (1.5GB PC133 SDRAM), I will set a lower AGP aperture size (range available from 4MB to 256MB) but good enough without robbing too much of system memory so that the available system memory can surpass any modern game's system memory requirements. I wish I could upgrade the system memory to 3.0 GB (if and only if I could find very rare 3 x 1GB PC133 SDRAM)

From my experience, the Pentium 4 1.5 GHz maximizes its CPU usage when working with CPU-limited (multi-tasked/multi-threaded) software applications. There are a few jumps on system memory usage but not as critical as the CPU usage.

When using Nvidia GeForce FX 5500 on this system:
NFS: Underground - It ran nicely at higher setting and with a better FPS (good enough for a 3D game with minimal system requirements)
NFS: Undercover - It ran terribly at lower-setting and with a worst FPS. It could only generate broken 3D polygons. Movie cut-scenes played at slow rate

When using SAPPHIRE HD 3850 512MB GDDR3 AGP on this system:
I haven't tried yet since I have removed a lot of 3D games prior to installing this GPU.

Is there a support in the PC game so that it can scale up/down the software-controlled multi-threading support in the game (as it can influence the load on the CPU although correctly programmed threads can complete faster)? This is helpful for single core processors like "Willamette" Pentium. The 100% CPU usage for a multi-threaded game is only good for multi-core processors as it has a lot of cores to spare. But not for single-core processors as they need to handle multiple processes and multiple threads on a single core.

I will give more feedback soon.

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post Apr 1 2009, 12:52 PM

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fylon, you just placed a BOMB into bai's pocket. lolz


Added on April 1, 2009, 1:01 pm@eclectice
for sure most parts in your rig will bottleneck like ram speed, cpu, mobo.

your upgrade sounds quite "crazy" to me as every cents you pay for the 3850 will not be utilize. maybe half... hmm.gif

if you grap a 6 series or 7 series card, i think the performance will be almost the same like your new 3850. Correct me if i am wrong.

This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Apr 1 2009, 01:01 PM

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