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post Sep 5 2008, 02:16 AM, updated 17y ago

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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=719569

[SOLD] Intel 1.86GHz Pentium M Centrino Processor 
Notebook L2=2MB 478-pin Micro-FCPGA

Item(s):SL7S9 - Intel 1.86GHz Pentium M Centrino Processor 750, 2MB L2 cache (refer to description)

Package includes:only processor itself



Dealing method:COD Ipoh or free courier

Location of seller:Ipoh

Contact method/details:pm

Age of item:2 yrs+

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Item(s) conditions:perfect working condition, remove from faulty notebook (LCD faulty)

Picture:attached

Reason for sale:money

links:
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL7S9
http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SL7S9.html
http://www.getpartsonline.com/sl7s9.html


Description:
Stepping: SL7S9, 1.86GHz
Processor type Intel Pentium M
Processor number 750
Part number RH80536GE0362M
BX80536GE1866FJ
Package type 478-pin Micro-FCPGA
Processor speed (MHz) 1860 / 800
Bus speed (MHz) 533
Clock multiplier 14
L2 cache size (MB) 2
Stepping C0
Manufacturing technology (micron) 0.09
Core voltage (V) 1.26 - 1.356 / 0.988
Case temperature (°C) 100
CPUID 06D8h

This post has been edited by ongbs: Sep 2 2008, 10:51 PM


OK, long story short. I brought a processor from this seller found out the processor he sell to me is not 478 so I asked for a full refund guess what? He refuse and being rude in PM and start blaming over me saying such situation is not cover by his one warranty agreements. From what I see, this is not a buyer mistake it was truly the seller fault that put the wrong misleading description on his sales post leading me to the wrong type. I did read the Intel specifications showing the correct 478 model that I am looking for and I have also look at the picture uploaded by the seller but I didn't know there are actually two kind/type of this Intel Pentium M processor before so I just buy it by trusting seller description "Package type 478-pin Micro-FCPGA" only after that I opened up my customer notebook to install the processor I look at the existing processor pins and found out the processor from this seller is not the correct 478 model. So to be sure, I go search the internet and shockingly only then I found out the processor it was 479 not 478. I found this M-FCPGA review http://reviews.ebay.com/Intel-apos-s-479-S...T:-1:LISTINGS:1

This self-claim to be a good seller now show his true face trying to escape from his own wrong and misleading description by leaving me a useless 479 processor with an unknown condition?? And refuse to refund. dry.gif

Please to anyone who is reading this do give your constructive comments and make your vote but please stay on topic, don’t start talk about anything not related to this topic or I will not hesitate to report you to the moderator. I do advise everyone for the moment do not deal or buy anything from this irresponsible seller ID "ongbs" until this case is fully solve. hmm.gif I do hope our moderator who's reading this could place a [DISPUTE] tag on this irresponsible seller.

* Please do take note this is not a socket compatibility issue anymore, seller sold to me a faulty processor unit and behave like he is a good man with excuses to runaway from refunding. Read my latest post in page 7.

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post Sep 5 2008, 02:40 AM

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Yes he should refund. Coz it's the seller's responsible to makesure the buyer buy what they want.btw TS, did u google whether the proc u bought?
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post Sep 5 2008, 02:54 AM

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PM the seller about this thread and ask he explain here. Also put the sell's thread link.
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post Sep 5 2008, 02:59 AM

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QUOTE(chyu89 @ Sep 5 2008, 02:40 AM)
Yes he should refund. Coz it's the seller's responsible to makesure the buyer buy what they want.btw TS, did u google whether the proc u bought?
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He said he's a good well known seller in PM replied so I blindly trusted his word and his product description is accurate in the sales post. I didn't know there are actually two kind/type of this Intel Pentium M processor as I already clarify above. sad.gif
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post Sep 5 2008, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(Tingwei89 @ Sep 5 2008, 02:54 AM)
PM the seller about this thread and ask he explain here. Also put the sell's thread link.
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He know. I already told him I'll open a topic in Trade Zone Dispute below is some part of his PM.

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up to you what you want to do.
I have clearly put the actual pics of my processor in my thread, include the pin view.
I also tell you warranty not cover the compatibility issue and you agreed!


This is not compatibility issue if the processor I brought from him is 478 but the socket is 479 that I agree it is my fault but the notebook is using 478 socket and the processor he sell to me is not 478. Do you understand what I am saying? He turn the table around and refuse to refund and said the warranty not cover the compatibility issue and still think that he is correct about his sales post description leading me to this trouble.
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clearly it's seller's fault

1st) he said that he put a picture stated that he already post the pic, it's buyer fault not to see picture clearly.
socket 478 and 479 basically same, impossible for buyer to count all the pins base on the picture itself sweat.gif

2nd) he put wrong description. as a seller we do have responsiblity to put correct description for our thread.
buyers can claim for refund if they found out the seller's description is incorrect, you can check our own malaysian consumers law for it, clearly stated.

3rd)if seller put wrong description and refuse to refund you can lodge a report against him . 1st u need to lodge a report at nearby police station, and after that u need to bring the report to lodge another report against the seller at consumer department, they will review your case after that, if your claim found genuine, they will take legal action against seller,no lawyer is needed

4th) after u lodge the report at consumer dep, you can consult with your lawyer to take legal action against him also...if u want to.
sweat.gif

but my point of view....solve this peace...

for seller, you have to refund him


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post Sep 5 2008, 08:30 AM

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Dear seller..,

Please refund this buyer money as you clearly mislead the buyer by stating it is a 478 pin processor.

Refunding it smoothly will only clear back your name and just admit is as your typo mistake..

Refusing to refund.. will only add your name to the Buyers beware conmen list .. and this will not help you at all..

remember..

Reputation take ages to built but only a simple mistake to ruin it..


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post Sep 5 2008, 08:44 AM

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Still no one can point out which part of my sales thread description is wrong.
The buyer MIA till now (since 5 sept 2008), maybe he is still reading this thread without logging in or in invisible mode?

By end of this week if he still not turn up here, I really hope that moderator can help me to remove the quote
"Seller refuse to refund. Bad seller !"

Some links about this proc description : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/783595/+100
refer to post #109



QUOTE(Caspian @ Sep 5 2008, 03:10 AM)
He know. I already told him I'll open a topic in Trade Zone Dispute below is some part of his PM.
This is not compatibility issue if the processor I brought from him is 478 but the socket is 479 that I agree it is my fault but the notebook is using 478 socket and the processor he sell to me is not 478. Do you understand what I am saying? He turn the table around and refuse to refund and said the warranty not cover the compatibility issue and still think that he is correct about his sales post description leading me to this trouble.
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Wow, I am "wanted" now?
Too many ppl just jump into conclusion without knowing the actual scenario sad.gif

Why? because of the title "Complain against on " ongbs " seller, Seller refuse to refund. Bad seller !"

Well, all dispute must be seller's fault? How does bro Caspian judge that I am a bad seller?
Be fair to me Caspian, you should put "Complain against on " ongbs " seller, Should I get refund?"

Refer to the Dispute Guidelines:
4. Inform the other party (via PM or otherwise) about your thread here, so he/she has an opportunity to defend himself. An accused party who does not reply within 1 week may then be added to the Trade Zone Black List thread.



I am here to defend myself, not to argue with others nor make enemy notworthy.gif


Caspian:
Your "long story short" really short a lot leh!
Too short that may cause many ppl can't understand well


Be careful of the words you use here bro!

"well known"===> did I mentioned this? It may sound same to you but to me it is totally different!
"Well Known" is kinda big, I am just a small fly here.
Not everyone like to talk big !

This is my actual sentence :(check your pm and correct me if I am wrong)
"Dun worry as I got many happy customers in LYN too, beside lelong..."
understand my sentence?? pm me if you need explanation.

I active in lelong since 2001 and gain over 200+ good ratings from sellers and buyers,
Well, 200+ good ratings is not difficult if you are a online trader, but for a hobbyist like me then different story...
I don't think it is easy for me to get this 200 good ratings (0% Negative feedback), If I am that kind of person as you said.
I know what I am doing and I am still doing it now....
You may check my lelong id: ongbs too!

My lelong account temp suspended from bidding coz a I haven't receive a won item that I bank in 1 month ago.
I won another 2 more items from the same seller that I haven't pay coz waiting for this issue to be settle.
After 3 non paying bid, lelong account will be temp suspended automatically.
Well, suspended from bidding just a small matter as I didn't complaint to lelong admin.
No plan to bid anything soon smile.gif


You said:
"This is not compatibility issue if the processor I brought from him is 478 but the socket is 479 that I agree it is my fault but the notebook is using 478 socket and the processor he sell to me is not 478. Do you understand what I am saying? He turn the table around and refuse to refund and said the warranty not cover the compatibility issue and still think that he is correct about his sales post description leading me to this trouble."

I don't get what you mean, "the processor he sell to me is not 478"
What 478? pin or what? I told you this is Socket 478? Or did you ask is this socket 478?
It is 478 pin micro FCPGA packing....anything wrong with my description?
(Read more at our pm below)


My ori sales thread:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=719569&hl=


Been "active" in forum around 10 yrs and this is my 1st time handle dispute.

Frankly, I don't like to deal with seller like you, if not I have sent out the processor that day, I will cancel the deal (I notice your pm but too bad I set out the proc)!

I hardly use "harsh" word in forum, who know me or traded with me will know....

If you want other to be polite to you, do the same to others...



OK, the link I put in sales thread is from Intel Official site:
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL7S9


The description if base on the stepping printed on this proc and paste from Intel site:

Processor Stepping: SL7S9
1.86 GHz 533 MHz
"Package Type: 478 pin" (refer to attached pic fro Intel)

If really you say i give wrong info, then Intel and other 2 official links gave wrong info too?
All the official links stated clearly that this is "Package Type: 478 pin"!

Read your pm really make me piss off!
I never con ppl, when I sell Dell LCD, a buyer from KL bank in RM2100 cash into my account while I just asking for RM150 deposit (I traveled from Ipoh to KL to COD the LCD, he never trade with me before).
I got the full amount paid even I am still in Ipoh, if want to con ppl I just ignore him....
End up I got another happy buyers after COD the LCD in Taman Melawati.
Again, if you need that buyer's info to prove that I am not lie, pm me, I can give you his info for verify after I inform that buyer.


Ok, I make it clear here:
1st: I am not pro in notebook, I try to give the description as accurate as possible so I snap actual photos of proc include stepping model, provide links base on this stepping.

2nd: you never ask me about compatibility issue and you NEVER mention what type of processor you are looking for,
You only asked this in pm together with my sales thread link:
[color=red]"i want to know is the picture in your link above the actual processor picture? i mean the processor pin's? pls reply asap."

I did answer you YES, it was taken from the actual proc....right?
The proc you received got different pin configuration from the pic?

but based on your pm you look like pro

(from your pm)
"i m a experience it technician for 15yrs now repairing & installing thousand of notebooks & processor b4 not some newbie la.

so any warranty?"


[COLOR=red]Ok, I replied you in pm (not sure you read it or not):

"make sure you lappy can support this proc as I won't refund if due to compatibility issue...

This proc is 100% working, I do keep a CPU-Z screen capture but can't find it now as I got thousands of screenic in my various HDDs sad.gif"

and you replied this:
"ok, I understand."


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Some of your pm and my comments:

you wrote:
"guess i m older than u as i used poslaju over 20 years & i know better than u do. pos office officer said any parcel received by pos office after 3pm stay there until the next day collection & deliver on the third day. u will know when i not receive it by tomorrow.

read your previous post yrself u promise me to send b4 3pm & u lie. dont start argue with me, arguing with yr buyer only makes u r a lousy seller.

i trust only myself. i don even know who u r, remember tat."

"u will know when i not receive it by tomorrow"
Did you get the proc next day? I don't know as you didn't reply all my sms, not even a single sms nor my calls!
base on Pos laju website tracking you did get it next day.

I explained to you in PM that I knew what I am doing coz I am more familiar with Pos Laju in my area, you said you been using the service >20yrs and knew them better than me? Then why you still need to call them to check what is the "pick-up" hour in order to get it next day? I knew the "pick-up" time many years back. All my explanation to you look like argument, so pls teach me how should i talk to you? Do you believe at least 2 pos laju staffs can spell my full name and address when they see me on the street, I didn't mean that I know Pos Laju better, just wanna advice you that try to listen to others, don't simply judge with you own mind...even you are smarter. Another advise, don't ever trade to ppl that you don't trust, you just wasting others time and your own time!


"u promise me to send b4 3pm & u lie"
when did I lie to you?
I didn't go out to send the proc before 3pm?
When you get my sms with pos laju tracking? 5pm? 7pm?
==> no, it was 3.12pm, check your handphone or I can resend you that sms!


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post Sep 5 2008, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Caspian @ Sep 5 2008, 02:59 AM)
He said he's a good well known seller in PM replied so I blindly trusted his word and his product description is accurate in the sales post. I didn't know there are actually two kind/type of this Intel Pentium M processor as I already clarify above. sad.gif
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You pissed me off because you simply judge ppl by your own mind!
We are human, not god, remember this!

OK, you bank in as 2:05pm 2nd Sep 2008...and you insist me to post via Pos Laju at the same day by 3:00pm!
I understand you need it urgent but you think I staying next door to Post Office huh?

I just know if I can reach post office by 4:30pm, you will get it next day, unless something happen that beyond my control...
Well, see how this guy wrote in pm: (pls note all the time in pm, this really pissed me off!)

See how he pm me:
"u will know when i not receive it by tomorrow.

read your previous post yrself u promise me to send b4 3pm & u lie. dont start argue with me, arguing with yr buyer only makes u r a lousy seller."


I read this pm after I came back home (after 7pm) Too bad I went out to send the proc, or else I will cancel the deal at once!
I don't like to deal with buyer like this...it will just make my life shorter!

Remarks:
I managed to post the proc around 3pm and called him many times but can't get through!
sms him the pos laju tracking around 3:12pm at the same day...
follow up on next day: sent 2 sms ask does he got the proc...walau...he not even replying any of my sms, no pm too!
btw, base on Pos Laju website tracking, he got the proc the next day, 3rd Sep.

QUOTE(Caspian @ Sep 5 2008, 03:10 AM)
He know. I already told him I'll open a topic in Trade Zone Dispute below is some part of his PM.
This is not compatibility issue if the processor I brought from him is 478 but the socket is 479 that I agree it is my fault but the notebook is using 478 socket and the processor he sell to me is not 478. Do you understand what I am saying? He turn the table around and refuse to refund and said the warranty not cover the compatibility issue and still think that he is correct about his sales post description leading me to this trouble.
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Bro, you missed out the previous pm that you haven't talk nicely and keep on blaming I am wrong, my description is wrong!
Ask me for full refund or else you will open a dispute trade! You are "pressing" me bro!
Well prove to me that my description is wrong.

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QUOTE(ongbs @ Sep 5 2008, 08:44 AM)
Wow, I am "wanted" now?
Been "active" in forum around 10 yrs and this is 1st time I handle dispute tongue.gif

"I agree it is my fault"
i thought you never or don't know how to write this sentence?
This is long story...hope i got time to response smile.gif

Frankly, I don't like to deal with seller like you, if not I have sent out the processor that day, I will cancel the deal (I notice your pm but too bad I set out the proc)!

I hardly use "harsh" word in forum, who know me or traded with me will know....
refer to this post (in technical forum):
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/777697
hah...maybe you are clever, but still should not write this type of sentence to others in forum!

If you want other to be polite to you, do the same to others...
OK, the link I put in sales thread is from Intel Official site:
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL7S9
The description if base on the stepping printed on this proc and paste from Intel site:

Spec Number:

SL7S9
1.86 GHz

533 MHz
14
2 MB
1.86 GHz

"Package Type: 478 pin"

If really you say i give wrong info, then Intel and other 2 official links gave wrong info too?
All the official links stated clearly that this is "Package Type: 478 pin"!

Read your pm really make me piss off!
I never con ppl,  when I sell Dell LCD, a buyer from KL bank in RM2100 cash into my account while I just asking for RM150 deposit (I traveled from Ipoh to KL to COD the LCD, he never trade with me before).
I got the full amount paid even I am still in Ipoh, if want to con ppl I just ignore him....
End up I got another happy buyers after COD the LCD in Taman Melawati.
Ok, I make it clear here:
1st: I am not pro in notebook, I try to give the description as accurate as possible so I snap actual photos of proc include stepping model, provide links base on this stepping.

2nd: you never ask me about compatibility issue but based on your pm you look like pro
(from your pm)

"i m a experience it technician for 15yrs now repairing & installing thousand of notebooks & processor b4 not some newbie la.

so any warranty?"
Ok, I replied you in pm (not sure you read it or not):

"make sure you lappy can support this proc as I won't refund if due to compatibility issue...
This proc is 100% working, I do keep a CPU-Z screen capture but can't find it now as I got thousands of screenic in my various HDDs sad.gif"

and you replied this:
"ok, I understand."
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What's ur point of showing ur customer his "rudeness" instead of admiting you have put the wrong description in your sales thread and refunding ur customer?

I too, bought something from you sometime ago.

PS to other: Is he expecting his customer will/can count whether the proc got 478 or 479 pins from a low-res pic, when he already stated in the sales thread that the proc has 478 pins? When I saw the pic, then the statement that the proc has 478 pins, I automagically assume that the proc has 478 pins. Who's gonna count pins in the pictah?

EDIT: I might have made some mistakes.

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post Sep 5 2008, 09:43 AM

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erm... but seller title is "[SOLD] Intel 1.86GHz Pentium M Centrino Processor, Notebook L2=2MB 478-pin Micro-FCPGA (Notebook Accessories)"

Is mobile type for notebook... and S479 have 478pins?
just my little cents...
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Sep 5 2008, 09:41 AM)
What's ur point of showing ur customer his "rudeness" instead of admiting you have put the wrong description in your sales thread and refunding ur customer?
I too, bought something from you sometime ago.
PS to other: Is he expecting his customer will/can count whether the proc got 478 or 479 pins from a low-res pic, when he already stated in the sales thread that the proc has 478 pins? When I saw the pic, then the statement that the proc has 478 pins, I automagically assume that the proc has 478 pins. Who's gonna count pins in the pictah?
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bro, you need to check my sales thread description and all info/descriptions provided by intel, show me where I i put wrong description?
Did Intel mention this proc is 479-pin?


Added on September 5, 2008, 9:47 am
QUOTE(morpheuzneo @ Sep 5 2008, 08:30 AM)
Dear seller..,

Please refund this buyer money as you clearly mislead the buyer by stating it is a 478 pin processor.

Refunding it smoothly will only clear back your name  and just admit is as your typo mistake..

Refusing to refund.. will only add your name to the Buyers beware conmen list .. and this will not help you at all..

remember..

Reputation take ages to built but only a simple mistake to ruin it..
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you too bro, check intel link from my sales trade, show me which description I put wrong?
Do I need to change intel mentioned spec:
Package Type:478 pin to 479-pin in my description?


QUOTE(chyu89 @ Sep 5 2008, 02:40 AM)
Yes he should refund. Coz it's the seller's responsible to makesure the buyer buy what they want.btw TS, did u google whether the proc u bought?
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"Yes he should refund. Coz it's the seller's responsible to makesure the buyer buy what they want."

bro, your sentence didn't make sense.
refer your sales thread here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=780248&hl=
(logitech keyboard)
well, can I buy your keyboard and after I received, I ask for full refund coz I don't like the key press "feel"?
According to your sentence, you are the seller and you need to responsible that I will get what I want....

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QUOTE(ongbs @ Sep 5 2008, 09:44 AM)
bro, you need to check my sales thread description and all info/descriptions provided by intel, show me where I i put wrong description?
Did Intel mention this proc is 479-pin?


Added on September 5, 2008, 9:47 am

you too bro, check intel link from my sales trade, show me which description I put wrong?
Do I need to change intel mentioned spec:
Package Type:478 pin to 479-pin huh?
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Posted too soon, edited too late, got replied too fast.
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Sep 5 2008, 09:50 AM)
Posted too soon, edited too late, got replied too fast.
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Its OK, I refuse to refund not because of the money...well RM160 won't make me rich!
It is the way this buyer react, as I said..."be polite if you want others to treat you that way".


Added on September 5, 2008, 10:00 am
QUOTE(gkl83 @ Sep 5 2008, 09:43 AM)
erm... but seller title is "[SOLD] Intel 1.86GHz Pentium M Centrino Processor, Notebook L2=2MB 478-pin Micro-FCPGA (Notebook Accessories)"

Is mobile type for notebook... and S479 have 478pins?
just my little cents...
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I don't think he wanna buy this to install in his deaktop, from what I understand, he bought this for lappy.
You may check Intel link bro smile.gif

I am not a pro in proc, that is why I put actual proc pics, included the pin view together with all official links that I managed to find.
Since he mention:
"i m a experience it technician for 15yrs now repairing & installing thousand of notebooks & processor b4 not some newbie la."

I never know if he check his lappy specs properly, but I clearly mentioned in my pm that:
"make sure you lappy can support this proc as I won't refund if due to compatibility issue..." and he answered "yes, I understand"..

end story.

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QUOTE(ongbs @ Sep 5 2008, 09:55 AM)
You may check Intel link bro smile.gif
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i read it... just wanna confirm only... i no expert in PC stuffs... tongue.gif
in fact as what i understand from intel website and others...
S479 have 478pins, but S479 CPU cant slot-in into S478 socket...
just my little cents again...

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Sep 5 2008, 10:04 AM)
i read it... just wanna confirm only... i no expert in PC stuffs... tongue.gif
in fact as what i understand from intel website and others...
S479 have 478pins, but S479 CPU cant slot-in into S478 socket...
just my little cents again...
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I also don't know about this complexity but I did know that lappy is not as simple as desktop.
Some lappy may have same proc socket but still can't support slightly higher speed proc even with same socket smile.gif


Added on September 5, 2008, 10:14 am
QUOTE(chyu89 @ Sep 5 2008, 02:40 AM)
Yes he should refund. Coz it's the seller's responsible to makesure the buyer buy what they want.btw TS, did u google whether the proc u bought?
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I will refund if he be nice and polite from beginning, but not now.
Unless the description I get from Intel side is wrong and Intel admit this smile.gif

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i think buyer need this kind of PM to P4 socket adapter... i believed no cheap and no 100% compatible with all the mobo
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=...467&modelmenu=1

guys, dont flame me... i dont have any relationships with ongbs or deal with him before...
i just looking on logical and common sense thinking... be fair to seller also...
otherwise in this world dont have sellers anymore, imagine the stuffs damaged by buyers and argue sellers that poor quality? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Sep 5 2008, 10:15 AM)
i think buyer need this kind of PM to P4 socket adapter... i believed no cheap and no 100% compatible with all the mobo
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=...467&modelmenu=1

guys, dont flame me... i dont have any relationships with ongbs or deal with him before...
i just looking on logical and common sense thinking... be fair to seller also...
otherwise in this world dont have sellers anymore, imagine the stuffs damaged by buyers and argue sellers that poor quality? sweat.gif
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no, he bought this proc for lappy, this adapter if not wrong...is for desktop mobo smile.gif
gkl83
post Sep 5 2008, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(ongbs @ Sep 5 2008, 10:22 AM)
no, he bought this proc for lappy, this adapter if not wrong...is for desktop mobo smile.gif
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erm... thought he bought ur lappy S479 CPU for his desktop mobo S478?
sorry if any miss understanding...
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post Sep 5 2008, 10:31 AM

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if all info are from intel web itself, what is there to discuss, sue intel??

we need a real expert in laptop here...is intel wrong?

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