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> Complain against on " ongbs " seller, Seller refuse to refund. Bad seller !

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post Sep 7 2008, 02:37 PM

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actually your name are not getting bad if they all read the story....u will gain more loyalty lol rclxms.gif
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post Sep 7 2008, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Sep 7 2008, 02:37 PM)
@ongbs
actually your name are not getting bad if they all read the story....u will gain more loyalty lol  rclxms.gif
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Thanks, hope so as ongbs is short form of my real name sweat.gif
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post Sep 7 2008, 11:48 PM

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hi, i'm not sure my opinion is useful of not,.
but first, i can definately tell you that the picture of that 750 processor is 478 MIcro-Pins. (dothan)
TS mentioned that it's not working on his motherboard.

perhaps TS need to tell me what motherboard.

if you are using a plateform supporting 533Mhz, i think the processor will work fine.
the Code name of the Sonoma platform motherboard is 915. (mobile platform)
The older platform supporting Dothan is coded 855. (support up to 400mhz)

To make it simple :

750 should work fine on 915 platform
Certain 750 doesn't works on 855 platform because of bus speed incompatibility.

TS nvr mentioned about the motherboard he is using...
i not sure why. If he just can tell me what Motherboard he is using, then immediately this arguement comes to an end.

Ong did provide sufficient information about the processor. Should be working fine on any 915 platform no matter what voltage it is. TS should have know this since he "claims" to have so many years of experience.
However, if TS using any other motherboard than 915... and the processor is not working, it's buyer's responsibility and not the seller.
If TS is using 915 platform and the processor is not working, then i think, Ong, you have to check the processor.

in the end, i support Ong tongue.gif , not because he's been here for many years.
Because Buyer, you didn't check the properties properly before you buy.
u should have ask about the previous motherboard that this processor was on. (what laptop and models taken from). then immediately you can guess whether it works on your laptop or not.
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post Sep 8 2008, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(@meno @ Sep 6 2008, 05:56 PM)
False trade description? shakehead.gif
Well, if thats the case go ahead and sue Intel then.
Bro Ongbs took the description from the official Intel website.


Intel wasn't selling processors to him.

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post Sep 8 2008, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 8 2008, 01:49 PM)
Intel wasn't selling processors to him.
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bro wodenus, no offense but could you please point out which part of the trade description is "False"?

If Intel really put wrong description on this proc, for sure it will be corrected long time ago as this proc is not new, been produced >4 yrs.

"Intel wasn't selling processors to him."==> I think still sold from Intel indirectly, this proc was from Intel or who else can make this?

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QUOTE(ongbs @ Sep 8 2008, 02:02 PM)
bro wodenus, no offense but could you please point out which part of the trade description is "False"?


Okay I need to confirm some things. What you have a is Pentium M correct ? you took the specs off of the box ? and Caspian's customer's notebook had a 478-pin desktop Pentium installed in it ?


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post Sep 8 2008, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 8 2008, 02:14 PM)
Okay I need to confirm some things. What you have a is Pentium M correct ? you took the specs off of the box ? and Caspian's customer's notebook had a 478-pin desktop Pentium installed in it ?
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What you have a is Pentium M correct ? ===> Yes, Pentium M 750
you took the specs off of the box ? ==> not really get what you mean, pls refer to screeshot attached
and Caspian's customer's notebook had a 478-pin desktop Pentium installed in it ? ==> I don't think it is Desktop processor, still a mobile processor i believe.


Here is the description in my thread:

Description:
Stepping: SL7S9, 1.86GHz
Processor type Intel Pentium M
Processor number 750
Part number RH80536GE0362M
BX80536GE1866FJ
Package type 478-pin Micro-FCPGA
Processor speed (MHz) 1860 / 800
Bus speed (MHz) 533
Clock multiplier 14
L2 cache size (MB) 2
Stepping C0
Manufacturing technology (micron) 0.09
Core voltage (V) 1.26 - 1.356 / 0.988
Case temperature (°C) 100
CPUID 06D8h


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post Sep 8 2008, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(ongbs @ Sep 8 2008, 02:23 PM)
What you have a is Pentium M correct ? ===> Yes, Pentium M 750
you took the specs off of the box ? ==> not really get what you mean, pls refer to screeshot attached


Okay now I need to ask you, how do you know that the s-Spec is SL7S9 ?

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 8 2008, 02:32 PM)
OKya now I need to ask you, how do you know that the s-Spec is SL7S9 ?
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I mentioned this before, this is proc stepping code printed on proc by Intel.
(refer to pic attached, SL7S9 printed on the top right corner)
By using this code, you may find exact detail from Intel site and many other hardware site.

Ok, I just goggle some international parts retailer's link of this proc: (See if you may point out their "false" description as well?)
http://www.laptopking.com/partpicture_LK.a...69&category=cpu
(sorry, 1st link not working, I attached a screenshot instead)
http://www.pcsurplusonline.com/viewprod.cfm?ID=14505
http://www.usereasy.com/product_8049.html
http://www.starmicro.net/detail.aspx?ID=1076
http://www.sparepartswarehouse.com/Toshiba...P000425620.aspx

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post Sep 8 2008, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(ongbs @ Sep 8 2008, 02:37 PM)
I mentioned this before, this is proc stepping code printed on proc by Intel.
(refer to pic attached, SL7S9 printed on the top right corner)
By using this code, you may find exact detail from Intel site and many other hardware site.

Ok, I just goggle some international parts retailer's link of this proc: (See if you may point out their "false" description as well?)
SL7S9 link
http://www.pcsurplusonline.com/viewprod.cfm?ID=14505
http://www.usereasy.com/product_8049.html
http://www.starmicro.net/detail.aspx?ID=1076
http://www.sparepartswarehouse.com/Toshiba...P000425620.aspx
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Wow, it seems that Caspian and I made the same mistake. They used the same processor in a desktop and notebook, how about that. So you have my apologies as well.

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 8 2008, 02:59 PM)
Wow, it seems that Caspian and I made the same mistake. They used the same processor in a desktop and notebook, how about that. So you have my apologies as well.
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Is ok, this proc mostly used in laptop smile.gif
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post Sep 8 2008, 04:39 PM

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what i believe is that caspian's customer laptop might be using 855GM platform, running on Pentium M 400FSB.
Caspian might have tot that this motherboard would support 533FSB chip, thus he got this chip from you..and ended up here...haha..
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QUOTE(klifex @ Sep 8 2008, 04:39 PM)
what i believe is that caspian's customer laptop might be using 855GM platform, running on Pentium M 400FSB.
Caspian might have tot that this motherboard would support 533FSB chip, thus he got this chip from you..and ended up here...haha..
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he is 15 years old notebook experts.... shocking.gif
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Lol yeah, and the 15 year laptop expert has suddenly gone missing la. Veli good..
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he says he is 15 years, then i should be 21 years experience because i started putting up computers since the age of 6...hahhaa...i still remember how i screwed with my father's apple 8088...
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QUOTE(klifex @ Sep 8 2008, 10:12 PM)
he says he is 15 years, then i should be 21 years experience  because i started putting up computers since the age of 6...hahhaa...i still remember how i screwed with my father's apple 8088...
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haha, that is why IBM/clone getting more popular ...? laugh.gif
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well..i believe thats why some shop has terms that "good sales are not refundable"


hope both party can solve the problem..

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QUOTE(amirsubhi @ Sep 8 2008, 10:50 PM)
well..i believe thats why some shop has terms that "good sales are not refundable"
hope both party can solve the problem..
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well, even with "good sales are not refundable", some shop still allow you to exchange if you explain to them nicely (after tested the goods still in working order).
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post Sep 8 2008, 11:47 PM

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Haiz.. i read until page 4-5 only.. lazy to read it anymore.
I just interest what the TS will reply drool.gif But where is him now?

If me, i will refund to him also is he apologize to me.. Coz i also face some buyer buy wrong iPod casing from me even i wrote all the information on post (normally buyer won read it, they just read the title), i refund and do promotion to sell out the stock. (i no keep stock, stock direct from distributor. No choise, need to do promotion faster get back the money to pay distributor)

Dear ongbs : You are no wrong. But try do win win solution on this case. Good luck to you..

Dear Caspian : Dun be shy. we will forgive and seller mention will refund you is you apologize to him. But where are u now ? u read this threat without login? seen u very emphasize this case from start...



TS, for you information :
Poslaju Pickup Time
If you go normal small branch Pos office, they cut off time is 3pm. But is you go the local poslaju HQ, they cut off time will extend.
If not believe, you can go KL Pos office HQ, they cut off time is 8PM.
(i only use poslaju a few month only, but i know that ) whistling.gif



**I currently not at KL, sorry i can't make any deal with my customer.

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