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post Jan 7 2009, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(ic-klass @ Jan 7 2009, 01:20 AM)
Honestly, u are once like me (w/out the extra budget). Watching Astro most of the time. My old CRT in alway on from 8 or 9 am till I got back from work, which is around 6pm. Then, when everyone is at home, u can bet it's ON till past midnite. May be if i have extra hours to spare, i watched DVD-video every alternate nite. So astro is still a factor to consider when choosing between PLASMA or LCD - if its intended to be ur MAIN display at home. Otherwise, it is all come down to "which TOYS u wanna buy"

I have a 42PV80 - only recently. So far really satisfied with the PQ (conn via ci-put s-video cable). Planning to buy a THX-certified S-Videop Monster cable from one of the forumer. Its PQ is much better when view at home, compared to what u see at retails shop. You have to remember at shop, they set diff setting for the displayed and the signal is relayed via several. best to bring ur own source (DVD/Blue Ray) and ask for demo. Try to set both sets at a level playing field - standard picture mode, NR reduced,etc..

Just watched rm8 DVD - Mummy 3 and Stealth, at 4meter distance. Very happy with the PQ  shocking.gif , and my dvd doesnt have any upconversion (the pic is totally upconverted via the Plasma) surficed to say I'm amazed - still blue ray with full hd plasma is the BEST.

The only things I missed about my PV80 is that, NONE of the connector ports is gold-plated..
dunno Py800/Py850 is like that...

so, IMHO, go for plasma - you wont regret it.. thumbup.gif
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The PV80 is still not full hd rite? Correct me if I'm wrong. Like most ppl say, whats the point of having a really HD TV when what u watch at home most of the time is ASTRO, pirate VCDs or DVDs ? Unless you are playing Blueray DVDs or PS3 most of the time, u wont be able to utilize the full functions of a FULL HDTV. Anyway, have u seen the 50PV80? Is it as good as the 42PV80? Doesnt it come with the s-video cable and hdmi cables?
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post Jan 7 2009, 11:42 AM

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pv80 in not full hd. panny full hd plasma is py800/py850. the 50pv80 is 1366x768 and the 42pv80 is 1024x768. both are 720p set.

yes, i saw both at side by side 50pv80 vs py800, via blue ray source - the pv80 is good, but py800 is better (hence the price tag). you noticed more details in py800. You can check with "imsobloodysick" shop in kajang.

AVS forum has a good user reviews - there i think the model no is px80 - u can check there.

HDMI or s-video normally come as a package. I just bought the TV - dont really like the free cable, its not that expensive if u search outside. Wanna V.good cable - need to spend more la..


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Can anyway teach me how to check the run time on Samsung LCD Tv (4 series)? notworthy.gif
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post Jan 7 2009, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(ic-klass @ Jan 7 2009, 11:42 AM)

HDMI or s-video normally come as a package. I just bought the TV - dont really like the free cable, its not that expensive if u search outside. Wanna V.good cable - need to spend more la..
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Not sure about this, cnet asia reviewed that cheap HDMI and expensive HDMI makes not different if they are less than certain length (If I remember correctly, then is 5m)

Anyone who has experience in this can share? I am still using the free HDMI cable that comes with my DVD player la ...
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post Jan 7 2009, 06:00 PM

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Some news for you guys. My friend lives in Kepong. There is a Audio Phonar warehouse there doing sale on electronic merchandise. They are selling cheap HDMI cables of 2 meters for RM40 and 1 meter for RM18 if I am not mistaken. I already ordered 2 pieces of HDMI cables from him.
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QUOTE(gyver @ Jan 7 2009, 06:00 PM)
Some news for you guys. My friend lives in Kepong. There is a Audio Phonar warehouse there doing sale on electronic merchandise. They are selling cheap HDMI cables of 2 meters for RM40 and 1 meter for RM18 if I am not mistaken. I already ordered 2 pieces of HDMI cables  from him.
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Isit HDMI version 1.3?
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post Jan 7 2009, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(carte82 @ Jan 7 2009, 06:04 PM)
Isit HDMI version 1.3?
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This Version of HDMI. cannot find anywhere from user manual what version is my Panny. Huhu.
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post Jan 7 2009, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(elwwmatrix @ Jan 7 2009, 06:27 PM)
This Version of HDMI. cannot find anywhere from user manual what version is my Panny. Huhu.
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from HDMI.org:

Q. What’s new in the HDMI 1.3 Specification?

* Higher speed: Although all previous versions of HDMI have had more than enough bandwidth to support all current HDTV formats, including full, uncompressed 1080p signals, HDMI 1.3 increases its single-link bandwidth to 340 MHz (10.2 Gbps) to support the demands of future HD display devices, such as higher resolutions, Deep Color and high frame rates. In addition, built into the HDMI 1.3 specification is the technical foundation that will let future versions of HDMI reach significantly higher speeds.
* Deep Color: HDMI 1.3 supports 10-bit, 12-bit and 16-bit (RGB or YCbCr) color depths, up from the 8-bit depths in previous versions of the HDMI specification, for stunning rendering of over one billion colors in unprecedented detail.
* Broader color space: HDMI 1.3 adds support for “x.v.Color™” (which is the consumer name describing the IEC 61966-2-4 xvYCC color standard), which removes current color space limitations and enables the display of any color viewable by the human eye.
* New mini connector: With small portable devices such as HD camcorders and still cameras demanding seamless connectivity to HDTVs, HDMI 1.3 offers a new, smaller form factor connector option.
* Lip Sync: Because consumer electronics devices are using increasingly complex digital signal processing to enhance the clarity and detail of the content, synchronization of video and audio in user devices has become a greater challenge and could potentially require complex end-user adjustments. HDMI 1.3 incorporates automatic audio synching capabilities that allows devices to perform this synchronization automatically with total accuracy.
* New HD lossless audio formats: In addition to HDMI’s current ability to support high-bandwidth uncompressed digital audio and all currently-available compressed formats (such as Dolby® Digital and DTS®), HDMI 1.3 adds additional support for new lossless compressed digital audio formats Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio™.


Added on January 7, 2009, 7:46 pm[quote=slk5538,Jan 7 2009, 04:47 PM]
Not sure about this, cnet asia reviewed that cheap HDMI and expensive HDMI makes not different if they are less than certain length (If I remember correctly, then is 5m)

you are right. HDMI is digital so it's basically u get it or null. so don't listen to the ppl and get those monster cable.
get those cheap from Amazon (USD9.99) with V1.3 . All are same except pricing.

This post has been edited by carte82: Jan 7 2009, 07:46 PM
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post Jan 8 2009, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(carte82 @ Jan 7 2009, 07:36 PM)

you are right. HDMI is digital so it's basically u get it or null. so don't listen to the ppl and get those monster cable.
get those cheap from Amazon (USD9.99) with V1.3 . All are same except pricing.
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Thanks for your clarification
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post Jan 8 2009, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(slk5538 @ Jan 7 2009, 04:47 PM)
Not sure about this, cnet asia reviewed that cheap HDMI and expensive HDMI makes not different if they are less than certain length (If I remember correctly, then is 5m)

Anyone who has experience in this can share? I am still using the free HDMI cable that comes with my DVD player la ...
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HDMI/Optical/some Coaxial transmit signal in 101010101001010 (digital format), need not to worry about lost of data. Soem HDMI are now over 10 meters already. Whereas analogue cable - Component/RCA/S-video will has some lost of data if the cables are kept long - that why u are advice to keep your cables as short as possible.

Cost/price depend on the makes/material use to make the cables - low price=low cost material/ high price=better quality/insulation/grade/etc material.

If not all the quality one from distinct cable producers might as well sell like those in Giant - may be their entry level one is a bit above the standard/cheap/free cable.

As a rule of thumb - you budget on cables/connector should be around 10% of your AV setup..( spend more if you have the punch!!)
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help!!!

i need to buy brand new floor stand for 42" lcd ASAP!!

please PM me!

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post Jan 8 2009, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(ic-klass @ Jan 8 2009, 09:04 AM)
HDMI/Optical/some Coaxial transmit signal in 101010101001010 (digital format), need not to worry about lost of data. Soem HDMI are now over 10 meters already. Whereas analogue cable - Component/RCA/S-video will has some lost of data if the cables are kept long - that why u are advice to keep your cables as short as possible.

Cost/price depend on the makes/material use to make the cables - low price=low cost material/ high price=better quality/insulation/grade/etc material.

If not all the quality one from distinct cable producers might as well sell like those in Giant - may be their entry level one is a bit above the standard/cheap/free cable.

As a rule of thumb - you budget on cables/connector should be around 10% of your AV setup..( spend more if you have the punch!!)
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So, does the higher price cable = better PQ if all other set up remain the same?

You only mentioned that high price = better quality/insulation/grade etc material but if we do not get better PQ then what is the point?

If delivers better PQ then of course worth consider la
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Is 42" LG80FR ok? Where can I find the best price for this? I was offered RM4.5k with 5 years warranty at Best Denki. I just saw in some post, can get it at RM4k in Penang? Where can I find that price in KL?
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2009 will be a great year for new stars.
Panasonic+Pioneer+Hitachi => NeoPDP
Canon (Toshiba?) => SED
Sony => FED & OLED

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Say bye-bye to LCD TV.... tongue.gif
(But maybe LCD TV price will drop dramatically, so prepare your wallet)

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post Jan 8 2009, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(YiQi @ Jan 8 2009, 04:25 PM)
2009 will be a great year for new stars.
  Panasonic+Pioneer+Hitachi => NeoPDP
  Canon (Toshiba?) => SED
  Sony => FED & OLED

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  Say bye-bye to LCD TV....  tongue.gif
  (But maybe LCD TV price will drop dramatically, so prepare your wallet)
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the NeoPDP claims to consume less power while improving image quality and reducing manufacturing cost
does that mean even cheaper plasma coming up?
the power consumption figure is very impressive too, at around 50% lower consumption
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post Jan 8 2009, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(slk5538 @ Jan 8 2009, 02:25 PM)
So, does the higher price cable = better PQ if all other set up remain the same?

You only mentioned that high price = better quality/insulation/grade etc material but if we do not get better PQ then what is the point?

If delivers better PQ then of course worth consider la
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You are correct. The best way is to try each and everyone of it. But in an ideal world, that is nearly impossible - you need to be mega-rich and stupid to buy the whole brands. That's where "product reviews and user comments" come in. You can set the cable of your choice and google for its comments and reviews.

Compare it with others within the same price range. The source of the comments and reviews also need to google it wisely. I use those like what hifi/what homecinema - mostly UK base. dont really like those done by Cnet - their customer reviews so-so la.

So, u asking: "High price will Definately give me better PQ?" The simple answer is NO - you cant make a proton Sawi to run like a civic by bolting down a good spark cable, cant you?? No need to buy high-end cable if you sets are not in that range of categories. So, it best to start with a good quality AV setup first - then it will be easy to choose ur cable.
Basic thiings like gold-plated connector is definately better than those silver one. Good "insulation" and transfer will minimised data loss. High grade components delivers better PQ/SS

Then again, PQ is in the eye of the beholder. So trust ur eyes - others are only guidence,

Like i said earlier in my post - cables/connector roughly is about 10% of ur AV setup.

And uses Reviews and Comments as a guide...

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Added on January 8, 2009, 6:19 pm
QUOTE(electron @ Jan 8 2009, 05:27 PM)
the NeoPDP claims to consume less power while improving image quality and reducing manufacturing cost
does that mean even cheaper plasma coming up?
the power consumption figure is very impressive too, at around 50% lower consumption
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So thus this means that we can expect the Kuro and Full HD panny panel to come down in prices next year?? drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

Ha..ha.. ( felt sorry for those LCDs..) rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif


Added on January 8, 2009, 6:43 pmHere is the review of 42PX80 - cousin of our beloved 42PV80. Yup, minus the scart and digital tuner..
Well done to those Plasma buyer!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

42PX80

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post Jan 8 2009, 08:34 PM

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Waiting for 42PV80 to drop below 3k-already someone selling at RM3050 in garage sales. Hoping Panny throw price soon for CNY. smile.gif
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Is it really the LCD price going to drop? flex.gif

Haiya, recently just brought the Sharp LCD TV....... sad.gif

That's y ppl say technology change rapidly, better dun buy high end product....

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My house hav a 52" LG lcd tv with HD ready only.If i play a ps3 using tat tv, the pic quality is gud or bad?
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post Jan 8 2009, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(okhui26 @ Jan 8 2009, 08:36 PM)
Is it really the LCD price going to drop?  flex.gif

Haiya, recently just brought the Sharp LCD TV.......  sad.gif

That's y ppl say technology change rapidly, better dun buy high end product....
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A "very Good" high-end product will last/satisfied u longer. True technology change rapidly nowdays. But if u "invest" in a good top-of-the-range, be sure that it will continue to give you satisfied PQ comparing to the "new-entry-level" machine. Plus, manufacture will continue to provide the extra feature (which doesnt come in entry level product) and develops new tech base on yours.

It's very hard to stay in touch with the latest gadget/tech. Only if you are filthy rich, and can afford to change the gears week-in-week-out, then you are im-par with the game. Plus, our culture also isnt consumer oriented. Places in the developed country has shop that u can trade in your ols set and get a new one, someone later can buy this "aged" product to upgrade their setup, you can do garage sale and people still bought ur good second hand items - here in malaysia, second hand item is like garbage (no good value).. cry.gif

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