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 D40/x/D60 Thread V4, The saga continues...

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KTCY
post Sep 25 2008, 08:36 AM

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post Sep 25 2008, 08:43 AM

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guys.. should i sell my d40 and upgrade to d50 ?? lol..

i know it is not much of a upgrade.. but really didn't have much budget for d80, or d90.. lol..

reason to d50, of coz is for the AF-motor, I can try those old, nice optics and cheap lenses..
more AF-points,
slightly bigger, top panel LCD looks more pro..

reasnon not to d50,
second hand unit,
LCD smaller,
miss my d40

haizz...

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post Sep 25 2008, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 25 2008, 08:43 AM)
guys.. should i sell my d40 and upgrade to d50 ?? lol..

i know it is not much of a upgrade.. but really didn't have much budget for d80, or d90.. lol..

reason to d50, of coz is for the AF-motor, I can try those old, nice optics and cheap lenses..
more AF-points,
slightly bigger, top panel LCD looks more pro..

reasnon not to d50,
second hand unit,
LCD smaller,
miss my d40

haizz...
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upgrade d80 la at least
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post Sep 25 2008, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 25 2008, 08:43 AM)
guys.. should i sell my d40 and upgrade to d50 ?? lol..

i know it is not much of a upgrade.. but really didn't have much budget for d80, or d90.. lol..

reason to d50, of coz is for the AF-motor, I can try those old, nice optics and cheap lenses..
more AF-points,
slightly bigger, top panel LCD looks more pro..

reasnon not to d50,
second hand unit,
LCD smaller,
miss my d40

haizz...
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Get 2nd hand D80. Price around RM 1,700+- only.
Your D40 can fetch RM 1,000 , so just top up a bit only smile.gif
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post Sep 25 2008, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Sep 24 2008, 10:07 PM)
Still thinking on the lens. A little tired of the 17-50 range, plus the 50 is covered by the 50mm f1.8. Liked the 28-70 Nikon a whole lot... 24-70 would be even better and Siggy just released theirs with HSM so still deep in thought.  rclxub.gif

I like the 18-105 range but absolutely dislike the variable aperture. Horrible for indoor events in my experience.  shakehead.gif
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not when you have high ISO tongue.gif
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post Sep 25 2008, 10:19 AM

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noise coming!~
of course 18-105mm is not the better lens out there
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post Sep 25 2008, 11:34 AM

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hi guys and gals

i am noodle and i am a nikonian. rclxms.gif

i just got my d40 last friday and im loving it!

i do have one small question. whats up with "P-mode". It suppose to be programmed auto exposure mode but i cant seem to change the aperture or shutter speed by turning the command dial. when i turn it it goes to P* but the photo taken is almost exactly the same.

Does P mode allow me to change only the exposure compensation, white balance, flash compensation, colour balance...etc... but not the aperture and shutter speed?

i guess if i wanted to change aperture or shutter speed i shud just use the other modes.

thanks..


Added on September 25, 2008, 11:37 ami got this of ken rockwells site... so confusing... because it doesnt change the aperture and shutter speed combination when i turn the dial. ive tried in good lightning too..


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P: Program

I use "P" for program auto exposure. In this mode the camera chooses the f/stop and shutter speed for you. If I want different apertures or shutter speeds I rotate the rear command dial, which selects alternate combinations of f/stops and shutter speeds which give the same exposure. Nikon calls this "Program Shift." An asterisk ( * ) shows up next to the P on the top LCD to let you know you've chosen a different combination for exposure. The asterisk doesn't appear in the finder, but you can see the apertures and shutter speeds. The asterisk goes away when you return to the standard combinations. The standard combinations are f/1.4 @ 1/8, f/2 @ 1/15, f/2.8 @ 1/30, f/4 at 1/60, f/5.6 @ 1/125, f/8 @ 1/250, f/11 @ 1/500, etc. "

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post Sep 25 2008, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(noodle @ Sep 25 2008, 11:34 AM)
hi guys and gals

i am noodle and i am a nikonian. rclxms.gif

i just got my d40 last friday and im loving it!

i do have one small question. whats up with "P-mode". It suppose to be programmed auto exposure mode but i cant seem to change the aperture or shutter speed by turning the command dial. when i turn it it goes to P* but the photo taken is almost exactly the same.

Does P mode allow me to change only the exposure compensation, white balance, flash compensation, colour balance...etc... but not the aperture and shutter speed?

i guess if i wanted to change aperture or shutter speed i shud just use the other modes.

thanks..
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First of all, welcome smile.gif

P almost like Auto mode already. You can't change most of the thing besides exposure compensation.

Yes, you can't change aperture and shutters speed.

If you want to control the both, you need to use M mode.

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post Sep 25 2008, 11:47 AM

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You can't change shutter speed and aperture in P mode. smile.gif
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post Sep 25 2008, 12:14 PM

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ken rockwell lies!

"If I want different apertures or shutter speeds I rotate the rear command dial, which selects alternate combinations of f/stops and shutter speeds"


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post Sep 25 2008, 12:16 PM

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I has stopped reading Ken Rockwell stuff for some times tongue.gif
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post Sep 25 2008, 01:50 PM

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Ken Rockwell did not lie. The P* mode will change aperture and shutter speed to achieve the same exposure.

It would not look radically different because the camera will still adjust accordingly to get the same outcome.
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post Sep 25 2008, 02:18 PM

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P for pathetic M for master.. laugh.gif whistling.gif
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post Sep 25 2008, 02:25 PM

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Programmed Auto (Flexible)

In this mode the camera automatically selects aperture and shutter speed based on the current metered exposure value, exposure compensation and selected ISO sensitivity. The Program AE on the D40 is flexible, which means that you can select one of a variety of equal exposures by turning the command dial. Example:

• 1/50 F5.6 (turn left a click) P*
• 1/60 F5 (turn left a click) P*
• 1/80 F4.5 (metered) P
• 1/100 F4 (turn right a click) P*
• 1/125 F3.5 (turn right a click) P*
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post Sep 25 2008, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Sep 25 2008, 02:25 PM)
Programmed Auto (Flexible)

In this mode the camera automatically selects aperture and shutter speed based on the current metered exposure value, exposure compensation and selected ISO sensitivity. The Program AE on the D40 is flexible, which means that you can select one of a variety of equal exposures by turning the command dial. Example:

• 1/50 F5.6 (turn left a click) P*
• 1/60 F5 (turn left a click) P*
• 1/80 F4.5 (metered) P
• 1/100 F4 (turn right a click) P*
• 1/125 F3.5 (turn right a click) P*
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i tried P-mode when 1st time i bought my d40. Change to A-mode n M-mode after that..
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post Sep 25 2008, 02:39 PM

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Using P mode doesn't make you pathetic. Using M mode all the time doesn't make you a pro. It all depends on the shooting situation and what you want to achieve.
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post Sep 25 2008, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Joseph Hahn @ Sep 25 2008, 02:39 PM)
Using P mode doesn't make you pathetic. Using M mode all the time doesn't make you a pro. It all depends on the shooting situation and what you want to achieve.
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i just quote from DCM magazine, a long time ago.. tongue.gif
different ppl have their own preferences i believe.. notworthy.gif
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post Sep 25 2008, 02:47 PM

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If you come out a good photos, will viewer ask you what mode you use to shoot the photos ?
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post Sep 25 2008, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 25 2008, 02:47 PM)
If you come out a good photos, will viewer ask you what mode you use to shoot the photos ?
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my bro used Auto-mode all the time, the pics still good..
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post Sep 25 2008, 02:57 PM

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i use M. coz my camera has M only sad.gif



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