i agree...it is made easier by the abundance of past year paper which causes a bad impact on some of the student...some of us got AAAA(we took 4 subj during a lvls) but failed during the block exam during medicine...

Seriously JPA scholars do have a reputation for failing exams, more than half of the JPA scholars failed in IMU and worse these future doctors are smoking like no tomorrow.

they smoke coz they are asking for no tomorrow

not all are mighty JPA scholars.

This post has been edited by blackrobin: Aug 10 2008, 01:56 AM

Killing one's self, while saving another life. Isn't that noble? =p

I was sitting at home reading all your threads and replies and i'm pretty amused.
Are all of you'll practising doctors in Malaysia yet??

Well i'll start off by saying that I graduated from Manipal-Melaka. I was in the 2nd batch. I got offered into IMC at that time 1997 and PMC. It however was too expensive for me as at that time as our country had a bad ecomonic recession. Well I went to India, studied hard, partied hard too and eventually came back to Melaka to complete the degree. I graduated in 2003 and started my housemanship then. I've been a surgical M.O for 4 years now in HKL, gone thru General Surgery, Plastics and Neurosurgery.

I've had the opportunity to work with a alot of doctors, whom graduated from all over the world, and i also had the opportunity to teach and guide housemen's who also graduated from all over the world.

I would like to say that it doesnt matter where you graduate from. Ive had really good housemen's who graduated from some god forsaken colleges in indonesia, but they prooved to be really good - knowledge wise, hard working and very interested in their jobs. I've had housemen's from my college who i thought we're to be idiots, but most of them we're good, and i've had housemens from ireland, uk, who at times proved themselves to be idiots too.

As long as you you know your a doctor and your there to do one thing, work hard and treat your patients, i personally feel it doesn't matter where u got your MD, MBBS from.

To proove a point to myself, i took the PLAB when i was a houseman and i passed it in one go. I then completed my MRCS this year and took the NZREX (which is the new zealand board exam) and passed it too. I've been offered a job in aukland and i'm leaving in november. So really... i dont know why is everyone bickering about where you'll graduated from or who is better. If the 1st world countries like aussie, NZ... can look beyond my degree and see that i'm competent enough, then why don't all of you start also having a first world mentality and see a doctor as a doctor and not judge him from what bracket he has at the back of his MBBS.

The Manipal problem on the other hand will be resolved. Dont worry about it guys.. its all hype and i've seen this crap happen before when i was graduating. The MMC didnt want to reconise our degree when i first came out and wanted us to sit for some other exam. Manipal also is a multi million business of the PAI's, so thrust me... it will be resolved in an instant.

Oh by the way.. i use MBBS(MMMC).

at last someone with great insights thanks for ur advice, something we need in our med training years coz i believe everyone here is passionate about being a doctor..
so, ur official mbbs cert was printed on it as MBBS (MMMC)?

kudos.....

however, exceptions cannot be extrapolated to the general.....that is why anecdotal evidence is category 4......

if only all students and doctors were like that......

the same goes for ur first world med student..

you all obviously have not been understanding what i am saying......

hey black robin... in all medical degrees they do not tell us what to print on out chops or cards. My degree says... MAHE followed by college of manipal-melaka. I think the KMC guys have it as MAHE followed by college of kasturba medical... or somethin like that la.

I've seen people rint MBBS (MAHE) or sometimes MBBS(MMMC) or even if u want to generalize u can put MBBS (india) the open bracket thing is just somethin people in Malaysia do. Havent seen it abroad. In the Us they just write their names and put MD at the back. Australia and NZ also te same, MBBS then FRACS or somethin like that. They dont put MBBS (monash). Its just a malaysian thing i feel.

Actually thinkin about it... it should just be your name.. Dr.xxxx and MBBS, MRCS... or what ever degree u have. So what year are u in now anyway. Hows the Melaka campus. Bloody hell i heard u guys have like a freakin nice gym and pool and all now.

melaka campus got pool?? didnt see one.....in manipal yes,we got pool..

yes...there is...
It's in the sports complex.

Wow, cool. So you are migrating to Auckland? Btw, is PLAB tough?

Yup, got pool and gym. The gym, is awesome.


Limeuu,
From your post, it clearly shows that you have grudge against 3rd world medical graduates. Don't deny it.
Btw, i would suggest that you migrate to other 1st world countries, as you might be treated by one of the doctors from 3rd world schools if you continue to stay.

Btw, graduation year for both KMCs are still being listed as current in IMED. So i guess you are wrong, limeuu.

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Added on August 11, 2008, 6:06 pmYou will be surprised how well some of our graduates are doing. Many are currently working in 1st world countries.

But of course, there are total idiots from our college who got suspended for negligence. So in the end, it's up to you.

This post has been edited by hypermax: Aug 11 2008, 06:06 PM

if you say so......since you already made up your mind about this, and now resort to personal insults....

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Added on August 11, 2008, 7:18 pmwrong about what? what did i say? i have made it clear imed is not relevant as far as individual country's sovereign right to recognise degree is concerned.......so listing there is not of consequence in the local indian and msian context.....

in any case, the website was last updated 1 august 2008....

but somebody has been stalking the site daily....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 11 2008, 07:23 PM

This is the latest update.

This post has been edited by sjr: Aug 11 2008, 08:28 PM

I have also made it clear that a school will only be listed in IMED when it is recognized by it's country of origin. You should know this since you are a doctor. The directory hasn't been updated because it doesn't need to. There's no change in the status of recognition of KMCs.

Btw, refer to the article above. I have told you the same, yet you were unconvinced. Also, the same concept applied for PMC.

It's ok to be wrong. Just admit it. Everyone makes mistakes.

This post has been edited by hypermax: Aug 11 2008, 10:44 PM

website updated 1 Aug.........incident occurred over the last week......so of course no update.....that is all it means......not updated....does not mean imed already determines it is semua okay even before doe india makes a decision......

yes, it is okay to be wrong......just admit it, everybody makes mistakes.....

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my contributions to the education forums is based on principles, broad policies matters, facts about standings of med education and qualifications vis-a-vis each other, and in different sovereign countries....

i do not know anyone here personally, so i do not want to go down to individual levels in arguing and insulting each other.....non of my comments are directed to any individual specifically in any way.....

but some people feels offended because they take general statements about certain medical schools, and extrapolate to themselves......don't.....do not be so sensitive.......

i will now end this debate, and will only further comment in general terms......and will not respond to further personal insults and provocations.......

the people who will benefit from these threads will be those who silently read and learn the facts, and make sensible decisions on what is best for themselves, individually......in other words, make you decisions with your eyes open......and accept the implications of that decision eventually.......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 11 2008, 11:38 PM

Whatever, you can say anything you want about the IMED listing. It's up to you.

Anyway, you have been proven wrong about the degree of Melaka Manipal. So just admit it. If you don't, it will only make yourself look bad.

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Perhaps is the style of reply. As i have stated before, you kept repeating the same thing over and over again, although you were not answering me, but i believe people here know how to do a back reading of old posts.

Also, none of your criticisms were constructive. I know most of us here might not be as intelligent as you to make it to UM medical, but we are now trying our best to be good doctors, yet you branded us as 3rd world medical graduates and started whining about the standard of our medical education. Mind you, not all of us 3rd world medical graduates are bad. Some of us are quite good and we were able to secure a place in other more prestigious 1st world schools, but due to financial constraint, we cannot actually study there. It's already a pain for us yet you wanna add salt on our wound, by branding us as sour grapes and etc.

If our education policy is fair, i think most of us can/will secure a place in public U.

Nuff said. Anyway, if you decide to go on bashing 3rd world medical graduates, by all means, go ahead. Btw, if you are a doctor, you should know that almost half of the doctors in our country graduated from 3rd world countries beside Msia (mostly India), and may i remind you that UM's former glory was achieved by lecturers from India under TJ Danaraj.

BTW, as i have said, if you have no faith in 3rd world medical graduates, by all means, pls migrate to other 1st world countries, as there are high chances that you might be treated by one of our kinds if you continue to stay.

This post has been edited by hypermax: Aug 12 2008, 12:15 AM

i think u r the one labelling 3rd world med school and student GENERALLY as corrupt and full of rich student...doesnt need a supersensitive person to see dat..i read ur post from other forums to0...u bring that ideology and try to convince every1 that what u hold is true....

Yes, Russian grads from other forum were also pissed of by what limeuu had posted in the past. And whether limeuu is truly stating facts in general or on pure bashing spree, no one knows except for himself.

This post has been edited by hypermax: Aug 12 2008, 12:11 AM