hmm...i never seen mbbs(mmmc) or mbbs(kmc)..i've oni seen mbbs(manipal) or MB, BCh, BAO (ireland),mbbs(mysore) as in those in the brackets are the main university not the colleges inside the university because the degree is conferred by the university,not the college..the college has no power to confer any degree...am currently studyin in manipal as in mmmc...im here to clear dat our degree are conferred by manipal uni and therefore named mbbs(manipal)..no mmmc or so in the brackets..and to say dat mmmc is full of lousy student,have u been there?? im a jpa scholar there and quite insulted with ur words....i have frens studying in imu,pmc,ucd(not twinning),um,ukm,uitm,alexendre university in cairo,moscow state university,universitas padjadjaran,univeristas trisakti,universitas gadjah mada..all doin medicine and we always compare and discuss the way or syllabus and our curriculum during our studies.. and i think it is not wrong for me to say dat it is very tough and demanding to study medicine in india...yes,my college does have some lousy rich brat but doesnt mean there are no lousy rich brat studyin in university of liverpool(ranked 1 for medicine in uk)..please,this thread are opened to discuss the matter,not to insult other ppls colleges..about the derecognition,my frens in kmc told me about kmc exceeding the 40% quota for foreigners student and this bring about the derecognition and nothing about the facilities..in fact,the facilities we have there are top notch..kmc even have one of the biggest anatomy museum in the world...and about the degree..the listing on imed have nothing to do with the degree conferred..pmc degree is a nui degree and mmmc degree is manipal degree..the listing is based on where the college is situated and not where the degree is conferred..fyi,there are no pmc in ireland because in ireland the students share the same facilites used by the full time student in ucd or rcsi and in manipal we share the same facilities with student from kmc and kmcic..so that is why in imed it is listed as in malaysia and not in the foreign country..about the imu-pms program,it is not listed in imed because it is a program,not an institution...and to clear things bit about the degree,the formation of twinning program,pmc and mmmc is a way for the government to ensure that sponsored students return to msia to fulfill their 10 years contract with the government,hence come the MoU with india and ireland to allow the students to be conferred their full degree but without the clinical trainings there in order to prevent the students from getting away..that is why jpa allocated a fixed amount of student sponsored by them to enter pmc and mmmc for every intake because they know for sure they WILL come back..there are 60 jpa students for every mmmc intake and 40 for pmc intake..about the guy thinking of entering imu for his cousin..just wanted to share what i've been through..b4 i went to india,i have to do my a lvls and pass the cut off points set by jpa...those who fail to pass the cut off point are sent to imu...anyway,if any1 wanted to reply to my post please dont flame me...what i give here is from what i've been through and what i know to be true...im not here to correct any1 just to state what i know to be facts..

This post has been edited by fazid88: Aug 9 2008, 01:20 AM

hmm..maybe im wrong then..who is prof razak? my dean explained to us during orientation that our degree will be conferred as mbbs(manipal)....our dean ir prof john arokiasamy in msia and prof ram in manipal....btw,about the pmc,my fren told me the degree conferred is the same with the one conferred to those studyin for 5 yrs...i think imu is overrated....

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Added on August 9, 2008, 2:13 amso u r my senior den?? haha..den u shud know how hard it is eh studyin there...i heard melaka is even tougher..

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2 and half years for pre clinical....no big exams for pre clinical but have to pass 3 out of 6 postings or else we cannot go home...

why? pride for college eh? haha

o0o...i heard our grads are doin well after graduating..is it?

limeuu...obviously u've never been into a med school...in reality in med school,only a few like 5-10 ppl who never achieve failure during their time doing the mbbs....and those ppl are the ones living in the library...failure is a norm in medic school but the school limits the failure to 50% rate..dats why above 50% marks in university exams,u pass...same goes to posting..u pass 3 out of 6,u r clear to go...but it is not easy just to pass...i dunno about other school but we in manipal,its very hard just to pass...no need to speak of the 5-10 distinction students or our batch topper...ask hyper..he should know more....or maybe he is one of the topper..ahaha...

nope..does not apply to oni jpa scholar...in fact,my batch topper is a jpa scholar and most jpa scholar pass their exams in manipal...and limeuu,i hope u understand what i meant...its not failing the big exam..its failing the internal assessment...failing big big exam in manipal means a repeat...fail more than twice,u'll be going home to malaysia....correct me if im wrong,if im not mistaken,india is th oni few country which would not allow the student to proceed to another year without passing the big exam...

den correct me... btw,why i sense some hatred towars jpa scholar here...i know some of us are wasting the money,but dont label us as one...

hmm..reputation of failing exams? i think its right during my a levels time but doesnt apply during my time doing medicine in manipal...from what i experience,those who fail are majority private students in manipal...

yep...we were given places right after we r offered the scholar....hmm..my result,pass the jpa requirement and pass the college requirement..if u stil want to know i'll pm u... erm...about the minorities get chucked into places like india,indon,russia.....toppers of my batch came from both the majorities and minorities...

i agree...it is made easier by the abundance of past year paper which causes a bad impact on some of the student...some of us got AAAA(we took 4 subj during a lvls) but failed during the block exam during medicine...

the same goes for ur first world med student..

melaka campus got pool?? didnt see one.....in manipal yes,we got pool..

i think u r the one labelling 3rd world med school and student GENERALLY as corrupt and full of rich student...doesnt need a supersensitive person to see dat..i read ur post from other forums to0...u bring that ideology and try to convince every1 that what u hold is true....

i thought sum1 wanted to end this debate.. btw,no money=no education...applies EVERYWHERE....stop it with nonsense of first world country is very good in sense that without money one can proceed to higher levels with interests and ability only...there is no doubt existense of scholarship to cater the needs of those who are incapable economically but able academically but even in developed country,the scholarship is limited...and do u think there is no racism happening there like u claim happen in msia?? no black and white? no aborigenes???? be realistic please..

i didnt mean u blackrobin...hahah! jjm? when did he go? 5th the other day? might be one of my fren...

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Added on August 12, 2008, 11:26 pmits in davengere...6 hours from bangalore if im not mistaken..

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illegal? make complain and sumthing gets done??? i wish the world is that simple....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/10/race.police

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/3...uselections2008

from ur first world country

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2003/jan/20/cricket

ur beloved australia...to think that their country is clean with good governance...be realistic....this things happen everywhere..may it 3rd world country like msia...or 1st world country like aus or uk or america....

links dead?? haha..just try it and its well and alive...it is offcially sanction in uk where they say the cricket team is less english and need to change....not official??? hmm..