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post Nov 23 2011, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(ableze_joepardy @ Nov 23 2011, 03:11 PM)
i think this standard wireless series.. without econavi, autocomfort etc.

does econavi/autocomfort really benificial?
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Yes, the most basic one.
I only want cool air, not the rest of the features therefore these are the most basic model.
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post Nov 23 2011, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Nov 23 2011, 03:05 PM)
really nice price, especially for the 2hp. A lot shops here sell rm18++ for clearing stock as new model will come soon.

can mention where u get?
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post Nov 26 2011, 08:57 PM

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Panasonic is going to launch new model of aircon soon biggrin.gif just pre-book the model, the only enhanced feature I get to know from supplier is the new one comes with built-in air purifier biggrin.gif
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post Nov 26 2011, 09:28 PM

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philipcs, how much installation cost you?
I got the same 1HP at rm850 and 1.5HP at rm1180, but comes with installation. Not sure good buy or not.
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post Nov 26 2011, 10:39 PM

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My air con contractor install for me foc because he done the conceal piping for me.
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post Nov 29 2011, 09:03 AM

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Is there a way to check the wiring is done for inverter? My contractor did two sets of aircond wiring. One is inside master bedroom and the other one is in the living hall.

This is the sample of his job for my master bedroom. inverter for 1-1.5hp
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I haven't paid him on hacking and concealing yet so want to confirm if this is really done for inverter type aircond. Many thanks in advance.
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post Nov 29 2011, 09:15 AM

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This is the comment that I received from Panasonic Malaysia pertaining to my inverter aircon.

"Please note that installing Panasonic wall mounted Inverter type of air conditioner [1.0hp – 2.5hp using R410A as refrigerant] requires a minimum of 0.6mm thickness of copper piping and indoor and outdoor units must be connected with 4 wires (which are live, neutral, communication and earth wires). "

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post Nov 29 2011, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Nov 29 2011, 09:15 AM)
This is the comment that I received from Panasonic Malaysia pertaining to my inverter aircon.

"Please note that installing Panasonic wall mounted Inverter type of air conditioner [1.0hp – 2.5hp using R410A as refrigerant] requires a minimum of 0.6mm thickness of copper piping and indoor and outdoor units must be connected with 4 wires (which are live, neutral, communication and earth wires). "

Hope this helps...
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well need to go back home and measure the thickness then. many thanks for the feedback notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Nov 29 2011, 09:03 AM)
Is there a way to check the wiring is done for inverter? My contractor did two sets of aircond wiring. One is inside master bedroom and the other one is in the living hall.

This is the sample of his job for my master bedroom. inverter for 1-1.5hp
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I haven't paid him on hacking and concealing yet so want to confirm if this is really done for inverter type aircond. Many thanks in advance.
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Only 3 wires so might not for Inverter. please double check.
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post Nov 29 2011, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Nov 29 2011, 09:51 AM)
well need to go back home and measure the thickness then. many thanks for the feedback notworthy.gif
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If your coppers are too thin, then I think you can look at Daikin. I think Daikin advertises their as being able to work with normal copper piping. You can go double check.

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post Nov 29 2011, 10:10 AM

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The installer put in 3 wires, even if your copper is thick for inverter your selection of inverter a/c is limited. Cause some inverter use 5 wires, and some use 4 wires.

If the copper hose is for inverter, you can still use some of the inverter (4 wires) by using the copper hose as earth, the red = Live, Black = neutral, and green = Signal/communication.
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post Nov 29 2011, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 29 2011, 10:10 AM)
The installer put in 3 wires, even if your copper is thick for inverter your selection of inverter a/c is limited. Cause some inverter use 5 wires, and some use 4 wires.

If the copper hose is for inverter, you can still use some of the inverter (4 wires) by using the copper hose as earth, the red = Live, Black = neutral, and green = Signal/communication.
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sigh the contractor insists that it is a inverter wiring with thick copper. later go to sengheng to clarify more.

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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Nov 29 2011, 05:31 PM)
sigh the contractor insists that it is a inverter wiring with thick copper. later go to sengheng to clarify more.
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Is he expect you buy Daikin Inverter?

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Nov 29 2011, 05:36 PM)
Is he expect you buy Daikin Inverter?
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Can daikin works with only 3 wire? I never knew that there's a specific condition. Is Daikin any good? if its the only way why not then. Rather than paying him to hack the wall again.
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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Nov 29 2011, 05:51 PM)
Can daikin works with only 3 wire? I never knew that there's a specific condition. Is Daikin any good? if its the only way why not then. Rather than paying him to hack the wall again.
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Dunno about how many wires Daikin uses but daikin power point is unique.
Daikin Power point, next to compressor (outside)
Others Power point, next to air cond (inside).

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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Nov 29 2011, 05:51 PM)
Can daikin works with only 3 wire? I never knew that there's a specific condition. Is Daikin any good? if its the only way why not then. Rather than paying him to hack the wall again.
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Daikin is supposedly the best. They also own OYL (York, Ascon, and others)
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post Nov 29 2011, 08:07 PM

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Here's a better photo. i notice there's a second copper host. can it be used for inverter?
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What about this 3 wires that is outside the rubber hose? cannot use?
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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Nov 29 2011, 08:07 PM)
Here's a better photo. i notice there's a second copper host. can it be used for  inverter?
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What about this 3 wires that is outside the rubber hose? cannot use?
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Have you brought the aircon already? Have you show the aircon or manual to the contractor what wiring and tube need to be use?
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post Nov 29 2011, 09:21 PM

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Best is to get the supplier/ installer of the aircon that you intend to get to take a look at the piping and wiring. He should be the best person to advice.
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post Nov 29 2011, 09:40 PM

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Go to the compressor area check how many cable. That is the best.

The cable outside the hose could be incoming power. Or maybe is signal control. If signal control it will terminate at the compressor area too.

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