Since the water rationing started, few of my friends using Sand filter having issue with water quality, before the filter the water are dam dark like (Kopi-O), after sand filter is like Teh-O. Now they have to off the main pipe let the other houses take the first batch of water, only then they switch on the main tap. Bad for them because they have to wait later before open the main valve, and that lead to slow fill up to the tank, also have to do frequent back flush.

Frankly, I don't find sand filter useful and is actually wasting more water, maybe this is one reason why our Selangor Dam water can't fill up even after many rains. Too many people doing back flush wasting water.

Rental: (RM110 x 12months) x 5years = RM6,600
Outright: RM3,400 + (RM500 Annual Fee x 4years) = RM5,400

RM6,600 - RM5,400 = RM1,200 (Your rental fee are paying another RM1,200 extra comparing to outright customers)
RM2,000 (4years of Annual Membership Fee) + RM1,200 (extra you paid above) = RM3,200
RM3,200 / 4years = RM800 per year

Conclusion, you are paying total of RM800/years just for the filter replacement and service fee? Doesn't looks cheap to me. I would rather go for outright if I were you.

This post has been edited by NightFelix: Mar 31 2014, 11:56 AM

If you were me.

I can't recall which version. I am no longer using it and not staying in Msia for quite some time already. But I remember the lifespan of both the UV light and filter is very short. Maybe because the condo that I was staying do not have a main filter, hence the water was really dirty.

I heard, my friend was saying buying mineral water is much cheaper than having a good water filter nowdays if you buy the water in bulk.

If u calculate by 5years and 10years maintenance the cost ll be much more higher not valueble.

Take d eg RM110 for 12mths ll RM1320. Then pay for 5 years rental ll be RM6600. 10years ll be costing RM13200

For taking espring is RM3200 come with catridge plus catridge RM509 for 4years = RM5236. For 10years, RM7781.
Huge amount of diff abt RM5419!!

The longer u use, the cheaper u get.

Any reviews on GE filters for drinking water?

Also, my contractor recommended to just use a normal filter for the mains (before the tank) to filter out particles, then just change the filter cartridge every few months when it's dirty. Is that a good idea?

I'm not keen on the filter where u need to do backwash. Feels like a waste of water to me. Please advice, sifus

Just get d indoor water treatment sys ll do,if you ar budget tight. Coz indoor drinking water much more important than outdoor

This post has been edited by wattsivy: Apr 1 2014, 01:32 PM

Outdoor unit sure need to back flsuh, if you don't install that, your indoor unit how expensive also useless.
Indoor unit you can use carbon filter(rm150 Panasonic), but suggest to use better type filter as this carbon filter won't really remove all the "dirt". Your water supply matters on filter selections.

Outdoor either go for user-replaceable like 3M or backwash flush sand filter like Pentair/any identical.
Any type of filter always come with Pros and Cons. So don't expect a perfect unbeatable system.

This post has been edited by NightFelix: Apr 1 2014, 01:32 PM

Sand filter useless la, in extreme case, it concert kopi-o to teh-o. This happen to friend now.

A good indoor water treatment system doesnt affect whether u put install an outdoor water filter system. As it is calculate how many litre of clean water hv filter out from system. It doesnt relate to how dirty or water need to filter.

A good indoor water treatment system doesnt affect whether u put install an outdoor water filter system. As it is calculate how many litre of clean water hv filter out from system. It doesnt relate to how dirty or water need to filter.

tambah susu pls?

Well, sand filter is like at 5 to 10microns, so since it have no NSF42 certified, that is why came out the water is kopi/teh-o color.

Well, you are right in some sense, if you are using those rm thousand filters.
My way are more on those cheapskates carbon filter.

Im not a sifus.. i used that kind of set up. Just a normal filter at the main and an activated carbon filter at the undersink. Catridge at the main i change it once in two months, which cost me only rm15 for 1micron filter. Used to used 5micron which cost me rm7 n change it every 4 months. Activated carbon i yet to change it. One catridge cost me around rm15. So far so good. No rust detected at the cattle or any of the piping fittings.

This post has been edited by platinum_12: Apr 1 2014, 02:10 PM

I think generally still need an outdoor filter. I don't want to shower/cook with dirty water

Back flush is to clear up the sand and particles? Won't the normal cheapo filters do the same thing? If I change the cartridge every few months, it still won't cost as much as the sand filters, right? And no wasting water, although some may say recycle the water to wash car porch or gardening, etc

Well said. But was just wondering if it is a good choice to go for a simple filter vs something more expensive

Good to know that! Does the outdoor filter get very dirty when u change it? How does the water taste? Any rusty taste or funny smells?

I'm a bit particular about my drinking water. I actually like the taste of RO water, but it's not healthy, so will not use that. The Panasonic filters mentioned also taste fine. But surprisingly, despite the price and reviews, I don't like the e-spring water taste. It's a good filter, no doubt. But I actually don't like the taste of the minerals. It doesn't taste crystal clear and sweet. That's why was wondering if anyone has a good drinking filter to recommend. I saw the GE filter and quite like the looks. Never tasted the water though, that's why want to ask if anyone heard or used it before.

The outdoor unit won't be that expensive, about rm500-800 also you can get, provided you know the place. In shopping centers sure are more expensive, as they charge 2-5X extra.
As for back flush, you only need to back flush it for 5-10 minutes, so use it for gardening or car washing.
The cartridge for indoor unit I only change once a year, rm40, so in some sense, I save more than you.

Whoever asked me, I will recommend outdoor for 3M AP902 and indoor for Amway eSpring, if budget running tight, go for 3M DWS1000. Both having the certified of NSF 42 and 53, while eSpring have bonus UV tech NSF 55.

There are always pros and cons between you choose either membrane filter, sand filter. While 3M AP902 is something like in between both. User replaceable cartridge when reach 378,541liters. While Amway eSpring will be same as well when reach 5,000liters. I can't said is expensive or cheap but is affordable in the long run.

Sand filters got many brand or types, some need to do backwash like every weeks or months for what I have encounter/feedback from friends or families. Don't forget, both sand filter need to change after couple of years and membrane filter need to change as well.

RO water sure taste good because I have one Coway Petit in my office, but in long term usage like at home, I would recommend others instead of picking RO system. While like you said, you don't like the taste of eSpring, it might be possible to early new cartidge just replace into the eSpring, the water came out something strange if you drink for the first time, but after you filter like more than 500-1,000liters later, you won't taste that anymore. I using it too, that is why I know what you talking about.

I have no idea about GE Water brands. Maybe you could share your thought about it, which model and what its feature or what it capable of doing it?

Anyone use 3M AP Easy Complete water filter? is it good?

any link or price list ?