Talking abt espring i actually feel it fresh. But for taste is quite subjective. U can let a kids try. Usually they can recognize which water is nice to drink. As i get many feedback abt espring taste sweet...kids like to drink water.
I m d one same as you particular wif water. Plus i m a chemist tat y i choose espring. Regarding of one of the model of panasonic is made by alkaline water. Tat y i would not consider it in my list

Will it be more difficult to install the outdoor unit later? Budget constraints right now. Let me just test out the simple filter first, then choose to upgrade later if it's not too much if a hassle

Oh, really? The funny taste of e-spring is due to the new filter? Oic. But I thought the E-spring is quite high maintenance too? Cos it is set to beep every year or every so many litres, whichever comes first, to signal it's time to change the cartridge/UV device, no? And the sound is really annoying too. One more drawback is, it needs to be plugged into a power socket. Can it be connected under the sink to save counter space? How do we connect it to the sink outlet then?

Would like to hear more about 3M filters too...thx

I'm nit sure if it's because my parents boiled the water first, that's why it tastes funny. But then again, it tasted funny even when I drank directly from the tap. Really, kids can tell the difference? Haha...I thought kids just drink coke. yeah, basically is just need a good filter that gives me water that tastes nice and safe to drink...

Well, you are in my boat actually.
Last time I do install indoor unit first, then after few years only install the outdoor unit.
When you want to install outdoor unit later on, make sure it is installed under roof.

Well, funny taste but is true lol. I already get used to it since long time ago.

Yeah, you are right, 5,000liters or 1year (whichever comes first) for the cartridge. I read at the brochure, it said, RM510 for 5,000liters is like as low as RM0.10 per liters. Normally my home finished up like around 11-12months, family members of 4persons.

Beep sound annoying? Well I also get used to it too. I even skip for 1-2months before replacing the new cartridge just because sometime have to wait for better PWP for the replacement cartridge. So I just let it beep for 2months like that, but only when you try to use it. Idle will leave it the red light blinking.

Previously share by one of forumer here.
Also, as above forumer said, outdoor filter better install under the root or away from sunlight.

This post has been edited by NightFelix: Apr 3 2014, 12:50 AM

anyone here use AO water filter before? it's the 1st time I heard about it which separate water to acid and alkaline. how is it?

This post has been edited by quintesson: Apr 4 2014, 01:59 AM

Seems good. Seen the demo

Is not surprise to heard that new kind of gimmicks/feature happen on the Water Filter everyday.
Last year I saw a Water Filter that can filter and produce water in some kind of white color semi-transparent water, just like the "barley". They told me can cure everything in disease.

Well, for me, no matter is RO/Alkaline/<whatever insert name here> of water filter, that have no certification from NSF is just BS for me. Purchasing a water filter is the Performance of the Water that able to filter, Price of the system, Long-term maintenance, Credibility of the product, and Warranty/Services of the product.

anybody using phileo?? say this in lazada and FB

http://www.lazada.com.my/shop-water-purifi...cedesc&dir=desc

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Phileo-Water...392338727562518

Any special about that?

got nsf / pda certs?

http://www.lazada.com.my/phileo-table-top-...#Q3725Cv452tHj5


Product Description of Phileo Table Top Hot & Cold Water Purifier 914UV Maroon
What's in the Box:
1 x Phileo Table Top Hot & Cold Water Purifier 914UV
4 x Filters
1 x User manual
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Some like it hot,
Everyone needs to start their day with a good cup of H2O. Which is why the Phileo 914UV is built with a different kind of sterilization – beneath its glossy look, the Phileo 914UV runs a real-time UV sterilizer to clean 99.9% of bacteria inspired by the shape of the cochlea. This way, you only enjoy clean water out of the Phileo 914UV… well, it’s called a water purifier for a reason.

Some like it cold.
Phileo 914UV expresses the largest chilled water capacity for you to stir up a nice cold glass of lemonade. Its extra large water tray supplies a generous amount of liquid to channel to the separate hot and cold filters. With a metal grilled water tray and a pleasing spout lightning display to keep you in the loop, the Phileo 914UV gives its other competitors a hard blow when it comes to function, user interface and beauty.

But everyone likes it good.
Your Phileo 914UV is made to impress. Its clean, stainless steel design is compact in size, enabling you to place in right on the top of your table without sacrificing extra space. It also has an FDA / NSF-certified 4-step filtering system, and that’s another story presented in visuals. Scroll down below for more information on your brand new Phileo 914UV water purifier.

What is d NSF standard code that it have certified?
Does the UV light certified by NSF standard 55?

The system doesnt separate acid or alkaline of water. It juz switch it to more alkaline or acid medium.
Back to natural we want a clean water but no acid or alkaline water. There is no any stronger facts showing drinking of acid or alkaline water good for health.

Many ppl doesnt realize if we choose to drink acid or alkaline water, y dun we drink car battery water. Both of them are same type of water. We should concern their technology to "filter out containmates" to get clean water.
Any strong support of their technology (NSF)

[quote=dreyvii,Apr 2 2014, 10:53 PM]
Will it be more difficult to install the outdoor unit later? Budget constraints right now. Let me just test out the simple filter first, then choose to upgrade later if it's not too much if a hassle
Oh, really? The funny taste of e-spring is due to the new filter? Oic. But I thought the E-spring is quite high maintenance too? Cos it is set to beep every year or every so many litres, whichever comes first, to signal it's time to change the cartridge/UV device, no? And the sound is really annoying too.

Would you like to get a car with no meter showing you driving speed or no meter to show ur petrol level usage?
There is why espring have d indicator. It indicate how many usage u consume and timelime left before u change the next filter. So u can hv pre preparation on it.

frankly speaking.. i dun know.. btw i'm looking into 3M model as well.. they got newer model.. DWS 2500T-CN

Are you talking about the 3M newest POU model that have filtration usage monitoring system?

I am not sure why many folks complain sand filter not good. I am using hydrogard outdoor unit (installed since 2003/2004) manual backwash. Under rain and shine.

I don't have issue with teh tarik color even during water rationing. I have only changed the inside media twice for the last 10 years.

I only do once a week backwash and i don't use indoor filter. My boiled water is still crystal clear and no sendiments if left overnight as compared to before installing this filtration.

I am moving to a new place soon and is currently looking at getting another outdoor unit. Although hydrogard is expensive (abt rm2.9k), i am still weighing the option whether to go for cheaper alternatives marketed by so many agents which may costs rm500 to rm1.5k for similiar unit or just get back hydrogard which have performed flawlessly and to my expectation.

Well, any sand filter will be good when we change the sands inside every now and then.
If you buy an expensive filter but never change, it will be the same : useless.
Getting certification means nothing, if someone says it does mean something, for me, that something will be a rm300 filter with a so called cert that makes it cost another rm1000

Well, as most of the user/trader share here before, every filter or system always have Pros and Cons. The Teh Tarik color maybe just happen on that/certain region but not all region in Malaysia.

If you have any friends/families live near industry area, you try compare your filter with them, you know what I'm talking about.

Not really. Certification is important when come to NSF and WQA and both of them are NPO(non-profit organization). So don't tell me the <insert name here> company charge you premium just because of they system are certified by NSF/WQA.

Meanwhile, what do you want your Water Filtration System come with Awesome Godlike Design Awards or Datuk/Celebrity Recommendation Awards?

This post has been edited by NightFelix: Apr 9 2014, 11:46 AM

Well, I bought my outdoor unit for rm1000 last time(4-5 years ago). It said to be using high grade fiberglass from US and comes with certs(which I don't bother at all).
Last week my uncle bought for my mother an outdoor unit without any certification and using fiberglass for rm350 only. Most of his clients are using the same filter since 3 years ago and nobody complaint before.
Already have a check on the internal sand, it is the same stuffs inside

i guess so.. but i don't know the price yet.. anybody knows?

http://solutions.3m.com.my/wps/portal/3M/e...ilter-Products/